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December 10, 2024
NBC News Leaves Out CRITICAL Context in Trump Interview
President-elect Donald Trump recently sat down with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” for his first sit-down interview since winning the 2024 election. Glenn and Stu review his statement on birthright citizenship and the CRITICAL context that interviewer Kristen Welker left out: The 14th Amendment doesn’t say, “all persons born in the United States are citizens.” The real quote includes a major qualifier that could allow Trump to end birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants without having to change the Constitution. Plus, Glenn and Stu review Trump’s comments on the war between Ukraine and Russia.
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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: Welcome to the program. And welcome to Stu Burguiere.
STU: Thank you, Glenn.
GLENN: You're welcome, Stu.
STU: And Donald Trump went on Meet The Press this weekend. This is what you're supposed to do if you're --
GLENN: Is it?
STU: Yeah, apparently so.
We're supposed to just reflexively go to NBC News whenever --
GLENN: Those days are over.
STU: Well, I thought they were too.
GLENN: Well, he has to do them.
STU: Well, does he? Does he have to do them?
GLENN: Yeah, I think he should do a little of everything.
You know what I mean? I think you shouldn't just go to podcasts. It's what Barack Obama did.
Remember? And he was doing interviews with -- who was that woman in the bathtub? And you're like, okay. This is ridiculous.
You don't have to do the bathtub one. But I think you should -- you should go on places, where you know --
STU: It's adversarial.
GLENN: It's adversarial. You won't get a good interview.
I think that's required as president.
STU: I agree with that. I --
GLENN: As president. Not necessarily as a --
STU: Even as a candidate, I think it's something you should do.
I mean, I think Kamala Harris shouldn't have done an adversarial interview at the campaign at some point, which she did not do.
GLENN: She didn't do interviews.
STU: In fact, she wasn't doing anything for a very long time.
And they switched strategies. And it did not help. In fact, it went the opposite direction.
I do wonder, there's the alternate world, what that election would have looked like, if she just continued to do nothing.
I think it would have been closer. I think if she never did an interview, it would have been closer.
GLENN: I think you're right on that.
I think you're right. The more she spoke.
The more you're like, oh, dear God, no.
STU: Don't do that.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Because I think they correctly realized that there were a certain amount of people, who were very worried about a candidate that couldn't do an interview.
GLENN: Right.
STU: Right?
So they tried to solve that, by doing interviews.
And what they should have done was let those people go. Realize, they're not going to vote for you, and hope.
GLENN: Has anybody noticed.
And I am biased because I've been talking to him, off-air.
STU: Uh-huh.
GLENN: And watching him talk to a lot of people, you know, without cameras around.
And his -- his grasp on deep subjects, has changed a great deal. Have you noticed Donald Trump in interviews is not the same guy he was in 2020?
STU: Yeah. I think that's true.
He certainly seems to be more focused and has a real plan, as to what he's going to do. As we know it's directly project 2025. Which he commissioned. We should remember, of course. Yeah. No.
It does seem like, you made the description.
I think it was last week, which it has been sticking with me.
Which, after 2020, he spent four years, thinking, this isn't going to happen to me again.
Like, I'm going to make sure these things -- if I get a president -- if I'm able to become president again. I'm not going to be able to be hit by all of these --
GLENN: I won't be surprised ever again.
STU: Right. It seems like he's coming in, ready for this.
GLENN: Yeah. He's ready.
The other thing that has happened to him. That I think has cut down on his slams and everything else.
I mean, he still does.
You'll notice he's not as crazy on things. And I think that's --
STU: What do you mean not as crazy on things? Just not as worried about --
GLENN: You know, name-calling. You know what I mean?
He's not like that, as much.
Because I think he -- this is just my speculation.
Put yourself in his shoes.
In 2014, everybody on both sides, loved him.
Right?
Maybe not as the president. But they -- they loved him.
STU: As a celebrity.
He was a big celebrity.
GLENN: And he's a great guy. A philanthropist.
He's done so much.
And then he gets in, and everybody that -- that were his friends.
STU: Uh-huh.
GLENN: That knew him, and knew what he was like. They all of a sudden, turned on him.
And I think that just took him by absolute surprise.
And he just kept -- he had to keep punching and punching and punching.
And I think now, a couple of things have happened. One, he just stopped caring. Because you -- you do care. No matter what anybody says, you do care.
He stopped caring. And then I think when he was shot, I think he found his purpose. And I also think in the following months, he kind of became cool again.
He became the guy who could go on Saturday Night Live, and make fun of himself.
STU: Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
GLENN: You know what I mean? And everybody would accept him.
He became kind of mainstream again.
So I don't think he feels that he has to punch anymore.
STU: Hmm. That's interesting. Yeah. I -- I have noticed a difference in him. I think getting shot. No matter what that is.
GLENN: Oh, yeah. That was critical. That was critical.
STU: It was.
GLENN: It has to change.
STU: Yeah. It has to change. So he's going into this with a real plan.
One part of this plan, this will be clip four. Is his plan to end birthright citizenship.
This is -- obviously, highly controversial. Many people on the left, do not like it at all.
They asked him about it, on meet The Press. Was it Wexler?
Christine Wexler.
GLENN: Yeah. Somebody who you've never heard of.
Because everybody you've heard of, has no credibility.
STU: There you go.
VOICE: You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one, is that still your plan?
VOICE: Yeah, absolutely.
VOICE: The Fourteenth Amendment says, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens. Can you get around the Fourteenth Amendment, with an executive action?
DONALD: We maybe have to go back to the people, but we have to end it. We're the only county that has it. You know we're the only country that has it.
Do you know, if somebody sets a foot, just a foot. One foot. You don't need two. On our land, congratulations, you are now a citizen of the United States of America.
Yes, we're going to end that because it's ridiculous.
VOICE: Through executive action?
DONALD: Well, if we can through executive action, I was going to -- we had to fix COVID first, to be honest with you. We have to end it.
GLENN: Okay. So notice -- notice what happened here.
STU: Hmm.
GLENN: She comes with the 14th. Stu, tell me why the Fourteenth Amendment was first written. What was that really about?
STU: I mean, is it wrong to say slavery?
GLENN: No. Slavery.
STU: You looked at me --
GLENN: No, no, no.
It was written for slavery.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: It was written because all citizens could vote.
And you have certain rights.
Blah, blah, blah. And so the southerners.
The Democrats said, well, they're not citizens.
They're not citizens.
They're from Africa.
STU: So they can't vote.
GLENN: So they can't vote.
Yeah. If you were born here. Even if you were born a slave, you're a citizen.
That's what that was about. That was not --
STU: About illegal immigration.
GLENN: That was not illegal immigration.
Come over here, get into a hospital. Have a baby.
And congratulations. Everybody is a citizen.
We are the only one that has it.
And the only reason we do have it is because of slavery.
It was a way to make sure that Democrats didn't just cut blacks out of the vote again.
STU: Uh-huh.
GLENN: That's what's so crazy.
And so notice he says, we may have to go back to the people.
Can you just change that?
Well, no. It's a constitutional amendment.
So we may have to go back to the people.
He says that first.
Her immediate response is, through executive action?
No. I just -- I just said, we may have to go back to the people.
STU: There are several parts in this interview. Where she doesn't -- it doesn't seem she listens to him. She has the idea of what Donald Trump says in this moment.
Already acted it out with her producers multiple times. So she's just not listening.
GLENN: That's right. That's why none of them have any credibility. Because there's not an honest exchange.
There is no honest questions.
He just said, we may have to go -- he volunteered. We may have to go back to the American people, for that.
STU: Right.
GLENN: So you're suggesting that maybe it would be a constitutional amendment? Well, yeah. I think we would have to do it.
I might -- if I get stuck, I might find a way to do it with executive action. But it is a constitutional amendment.
So, yes, that's an honest conversation.
STU: Right. No.
GLENN: That's not what she did.
STU: No. Do we have this clip handy again, to play it again? I want to see if you catch this one little of this. This is clip four, again.
Listen to her verbiage of the Fourteenth Amendment.
VOICE: Do you promise to end birthright citizenship on day one?
Is that still your plan?
DONALD: Yeah. Absolutely.
The Fourteenth Amendment says though, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens. Can you get around the Fourteenth Amendment?
STU: Okay. Stop.
Is that a quote?
All persons born in the United States are citizens?
That's what she said the Fourteenth Amendment says.
GLENN: You know, now that you ask me, I doubt it is. Have you looked it up?
STU: I have it. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, she leaves that out. But not necessarily important to the conversation.
But the next part is, comma, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma, are citizens of the United States and of the state written they reside.
The whole Fourteenth Amendment argument. And you might disagree with this part of it, is that that phrase, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, means that illegal immigrants are not included.
Now, I --
GLENN: How? How?
STU: Well, they're not subject to that jurisdiction.
GLENN: So, in other words, the -- well, if mom --
STU: They would be.
GLENN: If mom and baby, were there. Then they would be subject to that jurisdiction.
But the family would not be. Because they're someplace else?
STU: I think the argument, and again, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on the Fourteenth Amendment argument here.
GLENN: I'm going to tell you.
I am absolutely so far away from an expert. You might as well talk to a fisherman.
STU: What I have heard, people make this argument before.
GLENN: Okay.
STU: And the argument is basically to be subject to that jurisdiction. Is it not mean that you -- everyone, of course, has to follow the laws of a country, that you move into.
GLENN: Correct.
STU: To be subject of that jurisdiction. Means you have to have a basis in the country.
So it's not like you just cross the border. And, hey, I'm now a subject of this jurisdiction.
You're a visitor, right?
Or in this case, a criminal. And I'm crossing the border.
GLENN: Right.
STU: So you would not get necessarily those protections.
Of -- of that Fourteenth Amendment.
GLENN: May I just say, the only thing I hate the Founders for, is their use of commas.
STU: You know, it's a good point.
GLENN: Stop with the use of commas.
Could you please, for the love of Pete, the right to keep and bear arms.
Comma.
STU: Uh-huh.
GLENN: Under a well-run regulated militia.
Comma. Shall not be infringed.
Can you stop with the commas? It makes it too complex now. Stop with the commas.
STU: Very true.
But I think, regardless of what you think about the argument, of the 14th amendment. And people who are -- who believe illegal immigrants would not be grandfathered into that.
If it's foundational to the argument, why would you skip it?
Right?
GLENN: Right.
STU: You have to bring that up. Because --
GLENN: Could you do me a favor?
Could you have ChatGPT? Or something like that?
STU: Yeah. Yeah.
GLENN: Type that in, and ask what that means.
STU: Sure. It will take me a second, obviously.
GLENN: Yeah, yeah. All right.
STU: Do you want to go on to the next clip.
GLENN: Yeah. Let's go to the next clip.
STU: Okay. Next someone on Ukraine.
And what needs to happen with Ukraine.
This is, again, Trump on Meet The Press.
There are people being killed in that war, at levels never been seen before.
You have to go back to the Second World War. And even that, if you take a look and you know what it is, it's the soldiers, largely. The cities have been emptied out and demolished.
The country has been demolished.
If I won that election. Which you know how I feel about it. I won't get into it.
Because we don't need to start that argument.
I think it was an easy argument.
It was really proven even more complicit than the win I had on this one.
Yeah, but that's your opinion, but I disagree with it. Had I assumed -- kept control.
Number one, Israel wouldn't have happened.
Number one, Ukraine would have never happened.
It would have never happened in Ukraine and Russia.
But the number of people being killed. Soldiers. Young, beautiful soldiers.
Hundreds of thousands of people are being killed.
And, you know, it's very interesting.
It's level. Totally level the battlefields.
Totally level.
The only thing that stops a bullet. Is a body. A human body. And the people being killed. Hundreds of thousands on both sides. Russia has lost probably 500 thousand. Ukraine has lost higher than they say.
Probably 400,000.
You're talking about hundreds of thousands of bodies, laying all over the fields.
It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
And it should have need been allowed to happen.
Biden should have been able to stop it.
GLENN: Amen!
He's absolutely right.
And when this is over, and the body count is actually revealed, and when you see. And when you see BlackRock there, rebuilding.
When you see all of these friends of the Bidens rebuilding.
When you see BlackRock owning the farmland.
Then maybe you will start to have some idea of how grotesque, this really was.
All right. More in just a second.
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GLENN: So let's go to Chat GPT.
And just see what it says about the Fourteenth Amendment and that particular phrase, between commas.
STU: And I will say our robot betters seem to have summarized this the same way that I understood it. So historically, the consensus among most legal scholars and historical practices has been the phrase, excludes only a few categories. This is the phrase of "not subject to the jurisdiction in the United States."
Those categories are children of foreign diplomats, enemy soldiers, and some Native American tribes, who maintain their tribal jurisdiction.
Legal precedent has largely supported the view that children born in the US to foreign citizens are indeed US citizens.
Regardless of the immigration status of the parents.
Then some conservatives argue, subject to the jurisdiction, thereof, excludes individuals who are in the country, illegally, as they are not legally subject to the jurisdiction in the same way as lawful residents or citizens.
GLENN: Yes.
STU: They claim that because illegal immigrants have not entered the country, and remain in it legally, that they or their children should not automatically receive citizenship.
That is my understanding of the debate. And, again, you can say, you disagree with the conservative side of that debate.
GLENN: Right.
STU: You know, many do.
But to -- to actually skip the phrase, that is important to the debate. When talking to the man, who is arguing the conservative side of that debate. Is journalism malpractice, at the very least.
And I think it's intentional.
I believe it's intentional. But I don't know.
GLENN: Wait. I think it's NBC.
(laughter)
STU: It's not intentional. It's NBC.
GLENN: It's NBC.
STU: It's just what we are.
GLENN: It's just what they do. Of course it is.
STU: Yes! And that's, again, like -- it goes back to our original conversation, as opposed to whether you Meet the Press or not.
Do you need to go to a place that is intentionally doing things like that?
I mean, that is -- that is inexcusable for the one phrase that's important to the debate, you leave out of the amendment?
I mean, that's obviously intentional.
GLENN: I like the fact that the president was calm, cool, collected. Didn't name call. Went through that whole thing.
Wasn't a fair interview. It was exactly what you would expect. But at least he went and talked to the other side.
STU: Yeah. I think it's worth doing to talk to the other side.
I think it's worth doing adversarial interviews.
I wish he had a little honesty.
I feel like when you went back on the show with Russer. That's what you got.
Was -- it wasn't an interview liked. A lot of times, he took things, and took the democratic side a little unfairly. But you wouldn't eliminate the part of the amendment, that is the debate.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: He wouldn't have done that.
GLENN: No. And he would have given you -- there were times, that Ruser -- you would be pissed off at him. Because it was your guy. But you would also be cheering for the other side. Because he was fair. He was even-handed.
It was all that really, we asked for.
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December 09, 2024
Does the SHOCKING Daniel Penny Verdict Mean Justice is BACK in NYC?
A jury has found former marine Daniel Penny NOT GUILTY of criminally negligent homicide in the death of Jordan Neely. Glenn and Stu are shocked, especially since the jury couldn’t decide whether to convict him of second-degree manslaughter. But while this is a good outcome for justice, Glenn and Stu argue that it isn’t a perfect outcome: This case should have never gone to trial in the first place! The guys explain why Penny should have been seen as a hero, especially by those in New York City who know how subways work. Plus, they discuss how the leftist BLM crowds will react to the verdict.
Transcript
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GLENN: Well, the Daniel Penny verdict has come out, and he has now been found "not guilty."
STU: Yes!
GLENN: Thank God.
STU: Thank God there's some justice.
GLENN: What's weird. First of all, the judge, I think broke the law. I think the judge and what's his name? The district attorney up there, in New York. Really, they should be disbarred. What they did in this particular case, was wrong.
When you have multiple counts, and you're hung on the first count.
You don't go to the second count.
You -- you declare a mistrial.
But the judge, because of -- is it Alvin Bragg?
STU: He's the DA.
GLENN: Yeah. The DA. Alvin Bragg went and said, we will accept that they're hung on that.
Just have them consider the lesser charge.
Well, that's not the way it works.
You don't do that.
And he was just trying to get them to convict.
And somehow or another, they went back today, with very little time.
And found him 12-zero.
Not guilty.
Which is weird, that they were hung, on the more serious charge.
STU: More serious charge. Yeah.
GLENN: I think it's like, guys, it's Christmas.
I've got to go shopping.
Just all right. Whatever.
I mean, honestly, it might have been that.
I don't know why, on the lesser charge, they didn't have a hard time
STU: Someone was sharing, one of the courtroom drawings of the jury.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: And one of the people was wearing a mask.
And they were saying, this has to be the person, who is holding this up. It kind of does make sense. I don't know if it actually is accurate.
GLENN: Either that or it was the guy who shot the United Health Care guy.
What a great place to hide out. Hiding in the jury box.
STU: Yeah. He's great.
Fascinating thing. You know, not exactly a banner year for Alvin Bragg.
He's had a rough one. Really, an embarrassment in every single way.
GLENN: No, he really has. I honestly don't know why he's not being recalled. Other than it's New York.
STU: Even in California, they've been recalling these guys. They've been defeating them in elections.
And this approach of we only go after the good guys, and let all the bad guys go.
It's not an approach, the American people are comfortable with.
That's something, I think -- it's a message we --
GLENN: I don't even know how the Good Samaritan law just didn't apply to him.
He obviously was not trying to kill the guy.
STU: Obviously.
And they knew that.
You could see it in the interview afterward.
GLENN: Right.
STU: Quite clear.
GLENN: So how did the Good Samaritan law not apply?
STU: What version of New York has of that law, precisely.
And obviously, I think --
GLENN: Oh, it's probably a good Samaritan law, if you're a Good Samaritan. And you're trying to cause harm, but it's on a white person.
STU: Yeah. I would not be surprised, if that's exactly how it's written.
GLENN: And you are somebody who is in any of the other categories, then it's --
STU: That's how it's applied.
GLENN: That is how it's applied.
STU: Right?
GLENN: By the way, the threats are being issued now.
After the jury finds him guilty.
And activists --
STU: Not guilty.
GLENN: Yeah. Not guilty.
And they are also -- activists are in the streets of New York, right now. Protesting. That he wasn't --
STU: It's very difficult to even understand. I mean, because some of the people who he was protecting on the subway, were people of color, if you will.
GLENN: Yeah. There wasn't -- I don't think there was anyone on the subway, that wasn't happy about it too. They were all -- everybody in the car were like, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
STU: Yeah, they may not have been happy that he died. And I don't think anyone was, including Daniel Penny. Right?
But they saw this as a clear, legitimate threat to their well-being. As they clarified in their testimony, it was not yet another one of these crazy people on the subway if you've been in New York City.
And this is a weird -- I think it's a weird experience for anyone who has never been there or worked there as we have.
But it's like, very much a normal part of your life, to go on the subway.
And have a crazy person get on the subway, and do something crazy, while you're on the subway. In an enclosed metal tube.
It's a weird experience.
And you get really used to kind of looking at your shoes.
And looking the other way. And acting like this thing, that would have been the story you told your friends, every single day, if you live in any other city.
You just ignore it. And act like it's not happening.
GLENN: I'm trying to remember the comedian, that has the special happy face. He's so funny.
He talks about, just getting on the subway in New York.
Just trying not to get high on crack.
He's like, somebody comes in, in the subway.
And they're smoking crack.
And somebody is like, hey, you can't do that here. Like the guy cares.
Oh, my gosh. This is so unlike me.
Oh, there's a child here, I'm so embarrassed. And you just try not to get high on crack!
STU: Right, it always reminded me of how gun-free zones were really stupid.
In that, the people who were coming to murder, don't care about the gun-free zones.
The people who are coming to smoke crack on the subway. They don't care about your subway crack laws.
GLENN: They don't care. They don't care.
STU: They don't care. So the people who were actually testifying in the trial.
Made clear distinction between that normal part of New York life of someone coming on the subway.
And acting a little crazy, and maybe a little threatening. And what this guy was doing.
They said, they really believed they were in danger. And I think that was the correct assumption.
He was saying, he didn't care what the -- you know, if you went to prison for life, he was going to kill people. He was threatening them directly.
The fact that Daniel Penny stopped that.
Or God forbid, whatever it could have become, from happening, means he should be treated as a hero, not as someone who is on trial.
And the fact that this came out right, is a good conciliatory prize, but not the right outcome.
GLENN: It is.
Was it Bernie Goetz?
Who was the one who shot the guy on the subway?
STU: Bernie Goetz is one of them.
GLENN: What happened to him?
STU: He got off too, if I remember correctly.
GLENN: Isn't it weird, it's the same out of control city?
Where somebody is just -- you know, everybody knows, they're afraid on the subway.
Everybody knows, crime is everywhere.
And nobody does anything.
And Bernhard Goetz took a gun on the subway, shot a guy of control. Went through the same thing and was found innocent. I believe.
STU: And it was -- it was more -- I would say, more controversial than this one.
GLENN: Oh, yeah.
Because he was carrying a gun.
STU: Right. And he was actually -- he was, firm right, convicted of carrying an illegal firearm. Firearm. He was not supposed to have without a permit. But that's all he was -- that's all he got.
GLENN: Right.
STU: In this case, this is quite clear.
And, you know, it's disturbing, the way that he was interviewed. He's interviewed as if the police were his friend. And they were trying to suss all this out.
In a positive way. I didn't like that at all.
GLENN: You said a couple of things that stuck out to me a couple weeks ago.
You said, I finally get, the police are not your friends. Do not talk to the police without your attorney.
STU: Yeah. I've always been, you know, I have great interactions with police. I think that's still the norm. But you don't know.
STU: You don't know.
Popping into my head. Is Jeff Fisher. Host of a podcast here on Blaze -- TheBlaze podcast network.
And he always says this. He carries a card with him. That gives you the outline of don't talk to the police.
You know, they're not your friends. He has a whole little six-step plan. You are ever talked to.
GLENN: Is it written in crayon?
STU: No. It's not his writing.
It's just his card. He just has so much legal trouble. He has to have it with him at all times. I remember him showing it to me at times. All right. Most interactions. It's totally fine to talk to police.
After watching that with Penny, I was like, gosh. If you do something right -- if God forbid, you have to use your Second Amendment rights in personal defense.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
STU: I wouldn't say word one, to the police.
Not because I don't think the police are trustworthy. I think they are. But there's a system around it.
And, frankly, you can't trust anybody.
And there's a system around it. That will churn that into, a -- you know, something where you are a racist. Or you are -- I don't know what they're going to say about you.
The best thing is, just zip it.
GLENN: If the government wants to get you, they will get you. They will get you.
STU: Yeah. I think that's true.
They hold all of the cards.
STU: Especially in a place like New York.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
STU: Especially.
If you're a conservative living in New York. It's -- I don't know how you do it.
GLENN: I don't know why you do it. Honestly.
STU: You did it.
GLENN: I did it.
STU: Years ago. But you did it.
I don't think things were nearly as bad. When you were there.
I don't think they were great.
GLENN: Do you remember the process of trying to get a gun?
My life was at stake.
You know, all the time. Had to have six security guys with me. You know, in rotation. All the time.
Sometimes all six of them.
And couldn't get a -- couldn't get a -- no. The judge just didn't think it was necessary, that my threats were credible.
It's like, here's -- remember the end of miracle on 34th Street. I want that proof on my desk. And they came in with all the bags of letters from Santa Claus. That's kind of like the way I felt like.
Oh, I can bring you the proof.
What are you talking about?
It's insane.
STU: Let me give you another movie, that tells the same story.
It's a United Health Care CEO walking to work.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: You think you don't need protection in that city. This poor guy just walking to work, with a wife and two kids. Just gets executed in the streets. And most of the city seems to be cheering on the murderer.
And, you know, in a world like that, you don't need protection in that city?
Of course, you do. There's a great -- I think it's like a flowchart in one of your books. I can't remember which one was it.
Might have been arguing with the idiots.
It's one of the earlier ones from the guns.
How to buy a gun in New York.
GLENN: Yeah. It was --
STU: I want to say, argue winning idiots. Inconvenient Book, maybe. I don't remember.
Oh, you have one of them. You can flip through it. There is -- if there's a gun chapter. Probably it's in there.
But there's a flowchart on how to get one in New York.
And it was actually a person who was Kevin. Who was a coauthor of the book, who actually tried to do it and went through the entire process.
It is insanity. Insanity. It's step after step after step.
Submitting paperwork.
Going back. Resubmitting it.
Over and over and over again.
And it's like to the point where they know actually in reality, what you're doing.
They know they're on the -- they should approve it. But they do everything they can, to did know it.
It's similar to what they're accusing health care companies of.
GLENN: It's exactly the same.
They just wear you out.
STU: Yeah. They just wear you out. It's years.
GLENN: Until you're like, I can't.
Who can do that? Who can do that?
STU: I will say, this is not a paid commercial.
Good time to think about a Byrna launcher.
Because that is legal in all 50 states. Again, check your local laws just to be sure. Triple sure.
I know it's legal in states. I don't know if cities have it. Be sure. Be careful.
Make sure you check.
That is exactly the type of thing that the Byrna launcher is --
GLENN: This is something that I don't understand.
And again, not a commercial.
I don't understand why those aren't in every school.
In every school in America.
Why aren't those in schools?
STU: They're non-lethal.
GLENN: Non-lethal. So you won't kill any of the children.
You might make some of them cry with tear gas. You don't have to be a good shot.
You can put your hand just outside the door. And aim it down the hallway. Towards the guy who is shooting.
And if you're here -- within 6 feet. It will stop him.
It's going to put him in tear gas, and give everybody a chance to pile on that guy
STU: Yeah. I don't understand it either.
GLENN: You're not going to kill any children. Why would -- it's almost as if somebody doesn't want to solve this. Because that is -- that is the solution, is a Byrna launcher.
STU: Yeah. It's at least -- a great part of it, at the very least.
And it -- it's available. It's affordable.
GLENN: If you're ever on a school board, you should suggest that.
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December 09, 2024
'Young Turks' Host: Democrats Need to WAKE UP | Ana Kasparian | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 237
“I can’t believe I’m hearing you say this,” says Ana Kasparian, producer and host of "The Young Turks." Although she and Glenn have always represented opposite sides of the political aisle, in this episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast," they find a surprisingly wide array of topics to agree on. They agree that the “mainstream media plays defense for the Democrat Party” and that we must ban government stock trading. Although she once bought the mainstream narrative, Ana woke up to the reality of the border crisis when Texas Gov. Greg Abbott started busing migrants to blue cities, and she recognizes there is a “problem with Biden neglecting the border.” Glenn admits that the Democrats were right about Big Pharma, he was “wrong about the Iraq War,” and that he, like Ana, is totally flabbergasted by the pro-war Democrats and Kamala Harris welcoming an endorsement by Dick Cheney. The pair debate the limits of free speech, states' rights, abortion, federal minimum wage, and unionized workers before strategizing how to get money and corporate interests out of politics. Ana reveals that she was not “surprised on election night at all,” and, even though her audience hates when she says so, “Trump is funny.” Both Glenn and Ana hope these kinds of conversations can begin to heal our national division and help us come together to create a more perfect union.
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Jewish reporter SLAMS Canadian cops who arrested him at Hamas rally
@RebelNewsOnline founder Ezra Levant was recently arrested in his Jewish neighborhood in Toronto, Canada. His crime? “inciting a breach of the peace” by standing next to a group of anti-Israel, pro-Hamas protesters. Ezra joins Glenn to describe what happened and how the police decided to “take out the quiet Jew and let the noisy Hamas ones continue.” But this dystopian story also has a good ending. Just a few days later, the protesters returned. But they were met by Ezra and a crowd of 100 counter-protesters: “We took back the streets.” Ezra explains why it’s vital that America hold onto its rights and also comments on Donald Trump’s threat to put massive tariffs on Canada.
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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
GLENN: All right. I want to talk to you a little bit here about justice.
Right now, we are -- we are living in a world. And hopefully, Donald Trump is going to be correcting some of these real errors of -- of our ways.
We are a world that has gone truly insane. And our neighbors up in Canada are just as insane.
If not more so. They're farther down the road.
A good friend of the program. A good friend of mine is Ezra Levant.
He is Rebel News, which is kind of like TheBlaze up in Canada. He is Jewish, and he has just been arrested. He was arrested.
In fact, I want to play the video of him being arrested. He is only standing, as a journalist, filming in his own Jewish neighborhood, a Palestinian, you know, protest.
If I can call it that.
I want you to listen to what happens. The exchange between him and the police.
Listen.
VOICE: I want you to take this.
VOICE: So you're refuse to go leave?
VOICE: I'm refusing to leave.
VOICE: Why?
VOICE: Because I'm a Jew. I'm a citizen. And I'm your boss. And I don't leave --
VOICE: Well, you know what, in the interest of keeping peace here and public safety. You're under arrest for breaching the peace.
VOICE: Good!
(applauding)
GLENN: This is his neighborhood. He's not an outsider. This is his Jewish neighborhood!
VOICE: I'm being arrested because I'm standing on the sidewalk in my city. I'm a Jew, who lives in this neighborhood. And I'm being arrested because the police say that's the path of least resistance.
VOICE: Zionist!
GLENN: Amazing. Ezra is with us now.
Ezra.
This is crazy!
This is absolutely crazy, what's going on.
EZRA: Glenn, I've never been arrested before. They handcuffed me, and they took me to jail for a few hours. And they said that I had incited a breach of the peace.
Now, I wasn't doing anything unlawful.
I was actually just debating with those cops.
Because I wanted to film.
You called it a pro-Palestinian rally. I think it was more than that.
It was pro-Hamas.
They had set up this really macabre display, of they were reenacting the final moments of Yahya Sinwar, the now deceased head of Hamas, where he was sitting in a chair covered with blood or whatever.
So these Palestinian activists came into the heart of a Jewish residential community. They weren't protesting outside an embassy or a political target. They were just in the middle of a bunch of apartments, in a very Jewish neighborhood.
So they were targeting Jews as Jews. Canadian Jews.
Nothing to do with the war overseas. They were putting on this sort of reenactment of their hero, the head of Hamas.
And I thought this was so astonishing. I just wanted to anymore it.
I wasn't even interact winning them. I mean, wanted to film it.
You sort of heard the jeering. Jew, Zionist, or whatever.
The top cop said to me, that by being there, I was inciting a breach of the peace. I myself was not obviously breaching the peace.
But these pro-Hamas thugs were. And they essentially vetoed being on my own sidewalk. This is public property.
I wasn't in some, you know, private place to be trespassed or something.
And the cops arrested me, the path of least resistance, which you mentioned when it happened, because there was about 20 of them.
And one of me. And instead of upholding the law.
They said, just take Ezra out. Because we know he's not going to riot. We know he's not going to get violent.
Take out the quiet Jew. And let the noisy Hamas ones continue.
That's just crazy. And, you know what, I don't regret being arrested.
There's no way that I was going to leave. Because they were saying, you're committing the sin of being Jewish on the sidewalk.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to leave just because you say Jews can't be there.
And you heard them say that, as I was arrested.
GLENN: Ezra, is there a chance, you go to jail for this, that this is upheld in Canadian court now?
EZRA: Well, I did go to jail for a few hours. Then they released me without charge. Now I was so upset with this precedent, that -- that was about nine days ago, that that happened. So two days ago. The same Hamas protesters, came back to that same Jewish neighborhood. And I said, this can't stand. So I sent an email out to our viewers, and I said, come stand with me. We will be peaceful.
We won't engage with the Hamas ones.
We'll just stand on the public sidewalk.
And, you know, just assert our rights. We'll take back our streets.
And I said, be aware, that we may be arrested.
But if that's where we are.
We need to know.
So 100 people came out two days ago.
100 people. And the police saw my email.
So they put out a tweet. The night before.
Saying that they reserved the right to arrest people.
So they were trying to scare my people off.
But I showed up.
On Sunday morning, and 100 people were there.
And I led them across the street. And we stood there, and I think the police sized us up.
And thought, there's 100 of them. We really can't arrest the one of them.
It was no longer in the path of the least resistance.
So we took back the streets.
And it was a victory. And I think we undid that terrible precedent that was set.
You can't arrest a peaceful person.
Because someone else is threatening them.
GLENN: They're doing it in England too, though. Doing the same thing in Glenn England.
EZRA: Oh, yeah. Well, you know what, I'm interested in the UK. One of our former employees, Tommy Robinson, is in prison right now for publishing a documentary on X.
And I always say, I go to the UK, because it's a dystopian time machine to see what Canada would be like in five years.
Maybe further down the road than that. Glenn, I would say to you and your American viewers.
Hold on to your rights. And if you want a picture of what America would look like, if you had lose your rights.
Look at us.
And that's why I was so relieved.
When Donald Trump won.
Because I think he will turn back the excesses.
GLENN: Oh, I think so too.
Let me ask you, Trudeau said that if Benjamin Netanyahu steps foot in Canada, he'll have him arrested.
EZRA: Justin Trudeau has sided, not just with Palestinians, because I can understand making the case for innocent civilians and being harmed as collateral damage in a war.
And you can be compassionate for Palestinians. I -- you can do that. But -- but Trudeau has gone much further.
He -- he has been so supportive of Hamas.
I don't know if you know this, Glenn. They literally made an English language video, thanking Canada. He was -- he has absolutely turned against Israel at the United Nations.
He -- he routinely condemns. He -- he republishes misinformation.
And hoaxes about Israel.
That Hamas circulates.
And when it's disproven. He doesn't correct.
He's whipped up, what I call an anti-Semitic crime wave.
For the last year. Not just hate crimes.
Because, you know, sometimes while it's a hate crime. Or a thought crime.
Or a word crime.
I'm talking about crimes.
Mazel tov cocktails being thrown at synagogues. A Jewish girl's school in my town, shot up with guns, twice. Constant vandalism. Constant uttering death threats.
Trespass. Mischief. Vandalism.
And I'm pretty much a Libertarian on free speech.
I don't like it when people say anti-Semitic things. But I understand that that's part of freedom. But first of all, not for foreign nationals.
If you're a guest in our country, if you don't have tenure in our country, get out. Instead of deporting these thugs, he's bringing in thousands of, quote, refugees from Gaza.
And I would say to Americans, be careful.
Because Trudeau is bringing in hundreds of thousands of people in Canada, who share these outrageous beliefs.
And we have a porous border with you.
So don't think that they're -- some of them are trying to get into the US.
That's why Trump is trying to strengthen the border with Canada.
And I hope it takes effect.
I hope that Canada gets more serious.
GLENN: Well, I will tell you this.
There are a lot of Canadians that are saying, this tariff that Donald Trump is talked about with Canada will kill us.
And hurt America, as well.
If Trudeau does not abide with the border restrictions, if he doesn't fall in line with our laws.
Donald Trump is not bluffing.
He does not mind tariffs.
And he is going to -- I mean, he will crush any country, that is -- is doing damage to the United States. He means it.
EZRA: I believe Trump means it. But I also believe he doesn't want to put the tariffs on. He is just trying to get --
GLENN: Yes, it's the way he negotiates.
The one thing you have to understand. Unlike most politicians, Donald Trump never threatens, he makes promises. You do this, and I'll do that.
You do this, and I'll do that. And he means it.
EZRA: It's worth rereading The Art of the Deal, where he explains how he negotiates and how he reframes things and takes dramatic positions.
It really is a decoder for a lot of his political talk. But what is he demanding from Canada? Nothing that we ourselves shouldn't demand from our own government.
He's demanding two things from Canada. Stop the drugs coming over the border.
Especially China-made fentanyl that is trafficked throughout the states. And number two, stop the illegal immigration.
We should want both of those things on our own basis. And the fact that it takes big brother, and America to smarten up is embarrassing.
We should have done those things on our own. I think Trudeau suddenly has a decision to make.
Does he want to just play to the cameras, and have woke press statements?
Or is he going to be a grownup now, and get serious?
And be productive, and have a working relationship with our best friends and allies.
And I don't know.
I mean, Trudeau. He's so low in the polls.
He may try to, Glenn. Turn this into an election issue.
I'm going to stand up to Trump. And the conservative candidate is a Trump puppet.
He may actually try to run in the next Canadian election.
Not in the Canadian conservative party. But like a shadow boxing campaign against Trump.
I wouldn't put it past him.
He hates Trump. The feeling is mutual.
Both men have disparaged each other in the past. I look forward to the day when we get past the Trudeau era, because he's made our country a darker place.
GLENN: He really has.
Ezra, I'm glad things are working out. Stay safe, my friend.
You are a huge target, and a force for good up in Canada.
Thank you. Buh-bye.