Leftists go after BIRD NAMES for being ... RACIST?!

To the Left, EVERYTHING is racist ... including bird names, apparently. Glenn and Stu review an announcement from the American Ornithological Society that it's changing the names of around 80 bird species that are either named after people or have somehow been deemed offensive. Then, they break down why this is utterly ridiculous in every way possible.


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Oh, man.

Is everything racist?

STU: It's time for another episode of everything is racist!

GLENN: We're going to pantoverse now. As we are looking at ornithology.

STU: Yes! It's very important, Glenn. I hope you know that a lot of the familiar names you know, from birding. I know you're a big birder. Big birder. People don't know that.

GLENN: I'm not a big birder. I don't know anyone who is a big birder.

STU: Oh, huge birder.

GLENN: I eat birds.

STU: That's why you're looking for them. It's a little bit differently than the typical birder. You do it a little bit differently.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But you will have to say goodbye to some very familiar bird names. Like, I mean, say it with me. Anna's hummingbird.

GLENN: Anna's hummingbird. Anna's hummingbird.

STU: Gambel's quail.

GLENN: Gambel's quail.

STU: Lewis's woodpecker.

GLENN: Lewis's woodpecker. That one sounds like we shouldn't talk about it.
What is that? That's Lewis's woodpecker. Stop playing with that.

STU: Just leave him alone.

Bullock's oriole. How many times have you been like, oh, look. It's Bullock's oriole right over there?

GLENN: I usually just say it's an Oriole. But when it's Bullock's oriole, it rubs me wrong. It rubs me wrong.

STU: It does.

Well, apparently this will go away. Because of the American Ornithological Society, how they viewed to change the English names of all bird species, currently named after people.

Along with any other bird names deemed offensive or exclusionary. Now --

GLENN: Okay. Okay. Hang on just a second. To whom? The birds? The watchers?

STU: No, the birds don't care. It's apparently about human beings, as they discuss in the article.

GLENN: Okay. So is this happening all over the world, in every language? Any other society that has named a bird?

STU: There's only one society that matters.

And it's the American Ornithological Society, which is a word I've said many, many times. Not just starting yesterday.

GLENN: You remember.

STU: Yes.

Now, there have also been bird names named after Native American tribes. Because that's also offensive, like the Washington Redskins. That was offensive, had to get rid of it.

Even though about 90 percent of the people in the tribe approved of it. That didn't matter. This move comes as a part of a broader effort to diversify birding, and make it more welcoming to people of all races and backgrounds.

GLENN: You know what, I have to tell you, because you know me.

I'm one with the hood.

And I'm down with my peeps in the hood.

And we're listening to --

STU: Lizzo?

GLENN: Lizzo.

And she's like, where is --

STU: Where my phone?

GLENN: Where my phone in and I say to myself, Lizzo, have you thought of perhaps bird watching?

STU: Birding. Let's call it the appropriate term.

GLENN: I'm in the hood.

STU: This is a slang term for birding. I got it.

GLENN: And she says, where the hell my phone. And I said, you don't need one. You just go out with all the stuff you might get from the ornithology society. And you just go watch them birds.

And she said to me, and this is a quote. Birding is too racist. And I said, I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

But can you explain?

And she said, huh. I don't think I have to, you to, Glenn. And I said, damn right.

STU: That's right. I remember, you told me about that conversation. With contemporaneous notes backing that up, if anyone wants to see it. So this is very common actually. There's a lot of people just sitting around and saying, you know, I would love to get into birding. But I find the name Louis' woodpecker to be a little offensive.

GLENN: Can we use something else besides?

STU: No. Because there's never been an African-American.

GLENN: A hole in the side of a barn. And now I have to replace that whole --

STU: With Louis' woodpecker?

GLENN: No. Because Louis put a hole in the barn.

STU: It's a large bird.

GLENN: Is it?

Let's stop.

STU: Louis had a big bird.

And a lot of people talk about it.

GLENN: Let's move on.

STU: But, you know, are there a lot of people that go through this process?

Because there's never been an African-American name with the last name Louis. That's never occurred. Certainly throughout history.

GLENN: Well, Joe.

STU: Carroll. You know, I don't know. There's been some.

But you would think --

GLENN: The one who wrote Alice in Wonderland.

STU: That one. Yeah, whoever that one was.

So biologist Erica Nole says, she was recently visiting some salt marshes. Now, I know you have a time share near a salt marsh that you visit often.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. I get all my salt there.

STU: She saw a common bird there called Wilson's snipe. As you know, there's never been an African-American with the last name Wilson. They don't -- that never occurred.

GLENN: Flip.

STU: Russell. So which -- this bird has a long bill and engages in dramatic displays such as flying in high circles, which produces a whistling sound as air flows over specialized feathers. Very good execution. You are a birder. I can tell.

GLENN: That's the Wilson snipe.

STU: Which I actually this is a pretty cool name.

GLENN: Snipe! Snipe!

STU: But it doesn't say Wilson. It just says snipe.

GLENN: Snipe.

STU: And this biologist says, quote, and I thought, what a terrible name. I mean, Wilson was the father of modern ornithology.


STU: But this bird has so many other evocative characteristics. I mean, all --

GLENN: You know, when I think of the guy who founded modern ornithology. When I think of him, I think, that damn Wilson.

That damn Wilson. His name is everywhere. Everywhere.

STU: What color was Wilson with Tom Hanks?

White. The ball was white. Remember that.

GLENN: I got it.

STU: Okay. So that's the typical craziness.

Number one, they're calling the bird names racist. And acting like some Hispanic person is like, I can't. I would never go into birding now.

I've always wanted to bird. But the name Louis!

I may not bird now.

GLENN: Snipe!

STU: Beautiful bird. A little annoying if it's around your house. But a beautiful bird.

So you have that part.

GLENN: I have a whole nest of them.

STU: Yeah. Secondary part of this, which is ridiculous. They're not just targeting. I guess there are people who have named birds. Who also were in the 1980s. And made racial remarks. Or did something terrible.

I don't know. But they're not just targeting those people.

GLENN: I mean, if it's like Sherman's N-word. I get it. I get it.

STU: You would understand that. You would understand the name change with that one.

And like, it's hard. We understand how this process works. We might think it's stupid. Erasing history.

But like, this has happened all across the country, at this point. They're tearing down statues of freaking Ben Franklin.

GLENN: These guys are not. They're not necessarily bad guys. Wilson is not a bad guy.

STU: Right. They're not targeting only people who have done things that could be deemed offensive by modern sensibilities.

GLENN: Does Tom -- Tom's blue jay.

STU: Tom's blue jay.

GLENN: Tom was a badass guy. He knocked over a few of the Southland corporation's best 7-Elevens back in the '40s.

STU: There you go. That's a whole 'nother story. But they're targeting anyone, any name. If you're named after a person, they're getting rid of it. Even if you're the best person in the world.

GLENN: Not all around the world. Just American.

STU: Just the American ornithology society.

GLENN: And that's crazy.

That's baseline crazy. There's another level of crazy with this story.

And here it comes. The president Colleen Handle says, that was the first I ever really recognized or heard a name was offensive.

She says, at that point in time, concerns about injustice, weren't an acceptable reason for changing bird names. But it really started to change, in 2020.

GLENN: Snipe!

STU: When police officer killed George Floyd in Minneapolis.

GLENN: Wait. That's when the birders said enough of this.

STU: Enough the Wilson snipe.

And the Louis' woodpecker. Because George Floyd has been killed in Minneapolis.

Now, you might say, well, what the hell does that have to do with anything.

This is a totally different story.

GLENN: No. I might say, produce one birder that said that.

Produce just one that said that.

STU: But the issue was that it was not really George Floyd's murder.

GLENN: Oh, it wasn't?

STU: Because on that same day. You may remember. You may forget. This was the exact same day as George Floyd's murder.

GLENN: Same day. Same day. Remember this.

STU: A white woman, in Central Park.

GLENN: In Central Park.

STU: Called the police on a black birder.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

STU: Named Christian Cooper.

GLENN: So he was a birder.

He was a guy who was in the bushes watching, maybe looking for Louis' woodpecker.

STU: She called the police, claiming he was threatening her. Less than a month later, the group called...

GLENN: The group called.

STU: The name is so good. Less than a month later, a group called Bird Names for Birds.
Bird Names for Birds. I've got to join this organization.

GLENN: Wow! I want -- can you look it up, Sara, real quick. Just look up for their mission statement.

What is their mission statement?

Imagine going door to door, trying to get people to go into -- we represent the Bird Names for Birds Club. Okay.

STU: Yeah. Okay. So Bird Names For Birds. They come through. They write to the American Orinthological Society and say, hey! George Floyd was killed.

This birder was -- the police were called by a white woman on this black birder. Therefore, we should get rid of Wilson's name from Wilson's Snipe. That's basically how this conversation went.

Now, the problem with this story, if you remember, it was called the Central Park Karen story. This was the story.

And the main issue with this part of it is the story has been utterly and completely debunked.

At the --

GLENN: There was no blackbirder.

STU: Not utterly and completely.

But the blackbirder did exist. Is a human being. But there's a lot of details you haven't heard about it.

Should we go into those?

GLENN: Yeah. I would like to go into the detail.

Give me a minute to just get over. Snipe!

Let me get past that.

STU: Majestic.

GLENN: That was actually the bird. That wasn't me doing that. That's how close my --

STU: You did the call. That's how --

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STU: So if you remember how this story went down, here's -- here's a couple of headlines. A black man bird watching in Central Park, asked a white woman to leash her dog. She called the police.

Amy Cooper was her name.

She was charged in Central Park false report against a blackbird watcher.

GLENN: Is that an actual crime? Is that the crime she was charged with?

STU: A false police report, yeah.

GLENN: Oh. But not against a blackbird watcher.

STU: Well, that's a separate crime.

It's like a hate crime.

There's false reports. Against blackbirders.

GLENN: And that's bad.

STU: So let me give you the -- the footage of this incident.

Because you'll remember it, when you hear it.

This is Amy Cooper.

Being very frantic. And, I mean, she's hysterical this clip.

Of course, the blackbirder was in the right.

Here is Amy Cooper. This is from the day George Floyd died.

VOICE: Please don't come close to me.

VOICE: Sir, I'm asking you to stop.

VOICE: Please don't come close to me. Please call the cops. Please call the cops.

VOICE: I'm going to tell them you're threatening my life.

VOICE: Please tell them whatever you like.

VOICE: I'm sorry. There's a man. I'm looking at him. He's recording me, threatening me and my dog.

There is an African-American man, I'm in Central Park. He is recording me and threatening myself and my dog. I'm being threatened by a man. Please send the cops immediately.

I'm in Central Park. I don't know.

VOICE: Thank you.

STU: Okay. Now, she's very concerned.

GLENN: She's very hysterical. He seems like he's under control, and a nice guy.

STU: Calm guy.

GLENN: It's two New Yorkers that are just probably a little nuts.

STU: There are -- to take you back to this moment in all seriousness. New York City around May 2020, were pretty freaking nuts. People were afraid to go outside. This is like the very beginning of COVID. And we can all look back at some of the hysteria then, with the -- certainly noticing how ridiculous that was.

GLENN: Oh, that's probably why she, in her twisted New York way. Said, he's threatening my life. Because she said, don't come closer to me.

And he's wearing a mask.

STU: Well, that could be that.

Remember too, she also had health problems. She was predisposed to being more effective to COVID. She had barely had gone outside. She was a terrified person.

And A lot of people in New York at that point were very terrified.

Some of them remain to this day.

GLENN: They still are.

STU: But what happened to her afterward?

She was a white woman called police on blackbird watcher has been fired.

They took her dog from her.

GLENN: They took her dog?

STU: They took her dog.

And she actually went into hiding.

Left the country. And went into hiding after this.

So let's just say for a minute, she is a racist, and she did this.

You wouldn't necessarily think you would have to leave the country.

She was being threatened by people. She was terrified by everybody.

It was very, very bad for her.

When we come back on the other side. I want to give you the actual perspective of what occurred in this incidence.

Because nobody knows. Everybody watched it that way. The media covered it the way I just described.

Racist white Karen, going after this black guy for absolutely no reason.

And she -- she -- good. She got fired. Good, they took her dog. Good, she's out of the country. She's a terrible human being in every way.

GLENN: Yeah. I don't agree with that. I'm glad maybe she's out of the country. But for entirely different reasons.

STU: Really?

GLENN: Yeah. Gee, we lost another New Yorker, who was walking their dog in the park. And was all freaked out about going inside. Oh.

But I would like her to move away in happy terms. Like, I really don't like it here. People make too much. Sense.

STU: Well, that's true. As far as I know, she's not even a member of bird names for birds.

GLENN: Oh, no. I have it pulled up here. I'll look.

STU: Oh, you do? Can I join?

GLENN: Well, I was just looking at the background. Concerns about the honorific common bird names is not new. But this movement seeks to change those names.

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Thank God. Thank God these names are going away.

GLENN: So they're very upset about Bachman's sparrow, was the first one they bring. Yeah, Bachman.

STU: Really? What did Bachman do?

GLENN: Bachman was bad. Just, well, Bachman, I believe that's probably Jewish.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: And the Jewish Zionists, they control all of the bird names.

STU: I've been hearing that a lot on college campuses.

That's interesting you bring that up.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.


THIS move by Ron DeSantis DEVASTATED Gavin Newsom in debate

California Governor Gavin Newsom entered enemy territory and debated Florida Governor and 2024 Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis on Sean Hannity's Fox News show. But was that a good decision in the long run? Glenn and Stu review the debate and reveal who they believe won. Glenn also points out the strategy that DeSantis used in the debate that he believes was most effective.


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So the New York Times, their buying takeaway with the debate with Gavin Newsom and DeSantis is. That it was unfair. It was stacked -- of course. It was on the Sean Hannity show, on Fox.

That would be like me saying, you know what, I'm going to go on. And I'm going to debate Gavin Newsom, on CNN.

And then the big takeaway from TheBlaze was, it was unfair. Of course it's unfair.

STU: And I don't even know if it's fair to say it was unfair.

GLENN: You're on Fox. He's a conservative.

And, quite honestly, you've got DeSantis, who is really good.

STU: Yeah. Really good.

GLENN: Really good.

STU: So the taking of this debate by Newsom is a high degree of difficulty, right?

It's not an easy task to go on the Hannity Show and beat Ron DeSantis in the debate.

I will say, it's one of those things going in. If you don't think you can absolutely dominate. Absolutely dominate Ron DeSantis. You don't take this opportunity. Quote, unquote, opportunity.

So a couple of takeaways from this. From the big picture. And we should play some of the clips. Number one, Newsom blew up his career last night.

GLENN: He had a good chance.

You don't take this on, unless you're somebody that can actually, you know, do it. Knock him out.

You have to have -- you had to be so confident, that you could walk in, to an opposing field.

You know, where things are going to be stacked against you. Just because.

STU: Right.

GLENN: And take him on. And have a couple of knockout punches. Did he have any?

STU: No. It was really a catastrophe for him.

So you had -- the interesting part of this. If you're going to take this in a way that will make you understand the Newsom choice. This was basically the last wall here, for the person who wants to say, we need to replace Joe Biden.

Like, this is not working with Biden. We need someone who is going to do something different than lose with an 81-year-old candidate. Right?

Like, you need somebody who will do something impressive. Let's just -- let me give you a different scenario here.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: You have a situation where Gavin Newsom comes into this very unfriendly room. Against a tough candidate. And destroys Ron DeSantis in the debate. Let's say that happens.

There would be people excited to say, guys, look, we love Joe Biden.

He served our party for 50 years.

But come on. He's losing to Donald Trump. Gavin Newsom would destroy Donald Trump. We have to make that move.

This is about the last chance you have, to make a move like that.

GLENN: All right. Let me go on a couple of things.

STU: It didn't happen, though. Right?

So we had an opportunity here. It didn't happen.

GLENN: So here is a clip. DeSantis versus Newsom. Watch this.

VOICE: The stats are very clear. On a per capita age-adjusted basis, California and Florida, basically the same. Now, why is that important?

Because Gavin Newsom did huge damage to people in California. He ruined livelihoods. We reopened it very quickly.

We saved thousands of jobs. We saved hundreds of thousands of jobs. Thousands of businesses.

We had our kids in school. He had the kids locked out of school, because of the teacher's union.

That is having a generational impact. California is one of the lowest literacy rates in the country, and the most recent nape exam, Florida came in number three for fourth grade reading.

California was far, far hidden.

So you should apologize for not getting your kids in school.

Why didn't you get the kids in school, in the summer of 2020, like we did?

STU: The only person --

GLENN: That didn't do the job you should have --

I mean, that's what would happen in any debate.

STU: Right.

GLENN: So that's not unfair.

And I don't think Hannity was unfair.

STU: No. Look, he's a conservative. Everyone knows he's a conservative.

GLENN: Right. It's just stacked against you.

It is going -- it's Gavin Newsom going into enemy territory.

But I have news for you, gang.

That's what Republicans do, every debate. Every debate.

STU: All the time! Every debate is that way for conservatives.

GLENN: Right.

So here he is on the gender books in schools. Cut five.

VOICE: Or is it the role of the school? What is the role?

VOICE: The role of the school is to educate kids.

Not to indoctrinate kids. It's not to impose an agenda. It's to do the basics.

And what we've said in Florida is, it's inappropriate to tell a kindergartner that their gender is a choice. It's inappropriate to tell a second grader, that they may have been born in the wrong body.

Now, California has that. They want to have that injected into the elementary school. My wife and I have a seven, five, and a three-year-old. And we don't think that's appropriate.

And I know most parents do not think it's appropriate.

It's also important to respect, parental rights, to know what curriculum is being used in the classroom. And everything should be age appropriate.

I actually have something that I brought, that some parents have objected to.

So this is a book in some of the schools in California. Florida, this is not consistent with our standards. Called gender queer. Some of it is blacked out. You would not probably be able to put it on air.

This is pornography. It's cartoons. It's aimed at children. And it's wrong.

So this should not be at schools. When people like, on the left, say, somehow you're banning books. When you're removing this from a young kid's classroom. No, this is not age appropriate.

So we will stand for the rights of parents. I think we will do that nationwide. I don't think you can have a situation where some states just trample on the rights of parents.

Parents have a fundamental right to direct the education and upbringing of their kid.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I think DeSantis should take this, as a massive win.

What Gavin Newsom was trying to do with be to -- to tell the Democrats, I'll destroy these guys.

DeSantis just did.

STU: This should be DeSantis entire campaign right now.

Show people what it would look like, if he were the candidate. If you were in the general, this is what you would get.

Remind people, that this is what he should do. Now, look, you won't get idiotic governors to come and debate you.

It wouldn't make sense to do debates with governors. You do have an entire liberal media. You have The View. You have a million opportunities where you can go and do these types of things.

It's like, take those opportunities. And show those -- it's difficult to walk the line. Right?

As a Republican candidate in this primary. We've seen zero people be successful as Trump walked in. Dozens have candidates have tried this.

It's really hard to walk this line. A lot of people like Trump. You can't really say anything bad about him. It's just a difficult thing to do.

This is not difficult. There are a million people on the left, that want to take their shot at Ron DeSantis.

Go in there. Mix it up with the left constantly.

Act like you're the general election candidate.

Go there and show everybody, how much better you will be than any of the other candidates. That's probably his about best path to winning this thing.

GLENN: Let's go to cut seven.

VOICE: Do you think 100 percent. 100 percent.

VOICE: By the way, results matter. Inflation now is down to 3.2 percent. Wages are up to 4.4 percent. The economy is booming.

5.2 percent GDP growth in the last --

GLENN: Booming.

VOICE: Those are facts you don't hear on Fox news, 14 million jobs.

VOICE: That was a lightning round. Now, on March 31st.

GLENN: Bidenomics. He's selling.

STU: Yeah, by the way, Biden has stopped saying this. You notice this. He's not said it in a month.

He's touted Bidenomics constantly. All of a sudden, he completely stopped saying it.

GLENN: Right. Let me play one more here. This is DeSantis showing a map of San Francisco.

Watch this.

VOICE: This is a map of San Francisco. There's a lot of plots on that. You may be asking, what is that plotting?

Well, this is a map that they plot the human species on the streets of San Francisco.

STU: He's horrible.

VOICE: Because that is what has happened in one of the previous, greatest cities this country has ever had.

Human feces is now a fact of life. Except when a communist dictator comes to down. Then they cleaned up the streets. They lined the streets with Chinese flags. They didn't put American flags there. They cleaned everything up.

So they're willing to do it for a communist dictator. But they're not willing to do it for their own.

STU: Incredible.

GLENN: Just he was stunning. He was stunning. Last night.

STU: And this is one of the things. Gavin Newsom in theory, is much better than Gavin Newsom in reality.

This idea, he's a younger guy. He's a good-looking guy. He's well-spoken.

Watch him. All you can say watching that television screen last night, any rational observer would look at Gavin Newsom, and just think of the word douche. That is who that guy is.

I know it's not the nicest way to put it. I got it. But that's all you would think about watching him. And the idea that this is their bench. This is the guy that they're defending on for the future of the party, should give you incredible optimism for the future of conservatism.


What the media got WRONG about Elon Musk's 'go f*** yourself' statement

Elon Musk shocked the media when he told companies that are trying to use advertising money to blackmail him to "go f*** yourself." But that's not how the media is reporting it. They're suggesting that Musk just doesn't want advertisers who disagree with him. But Glenn, who has faced these kind of attacks before from the likes of Media Matters, explains what he really meant: "He’s saying, 'if you want me to bend and silence people so you could pose and you won’t be boycotted, screw yourself.'" "I'm not selling my soul," Glenn says. And he encourages Elon to continue doing the same.


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: The Elon Musk audio yesterday, CNN is saying he said to advertisers that didn't want to advertise on X, to F off. That's not what he said. Listen.

Do we have it?

VOICE: Apology tour, if you will.

That this had been said online.

There was all of the criticism. There were advertisers. We even talked to Bob --

VOICE: Don't advertise.

VOICE: You don't want them to advertise?


VOICE: What do you mean?

VOICE: If someone is going to try to blackmail with advertising, blackmail me for money, go (bleep) yourself.


VOICE: Go (bleep) yours.

I hope it is. Hey, Bob. I'm sure he's in the audience.

GLENN: So what was he saying? He wasn't saying, if you don't want to advertise. He's saying, if you want me to bend and silence people so you could pose and you won't be boycotted, screw yourself.

I'm not playing that game. I don't want your money that badly.

This is the way Americans, all Americans should be.

I don't want your blood money.

No, thank you.

I don't want it. If you want me to sell my soul. Because that's what's happening here. You are selling your soul.

Every time somebody tells you to compromise, to just go along to get along.

Angel Studios is coming out with a movie on boon horrify. And I can't wait. I saw the trailer yesterday.

I can't wait.

But Bonhoeffer said, our silence in the face of evil is evil itself.

We're by remaining silent, by not standing up. By compromising. By just letting the bullies win. It's evil.

What you're doing. And it will cost your soul. So I'm sorry. But if somebody is coming to me and he's driven by what he truly, really believes -- and I'm not saying Disney isn't. But if you come to me with a threat, and say, you better change this, or we're going to all boycott you.

We're going to destroy you.

Is there a bigger definition of evil than that? I'm not selling my soul.

I wouldn't -- he's saying, I'm not going to sell my soul, for what? $55 billion.

It's a pretty high price tag. But I'm not going to sell my soul.

My number is a lot smaller than that.

It's amazing. Tomorrow, I want to talk to you about it. Because Stu and I have been talking about, has a a genius. He's a genius of geniuses, okay?

And we rarely see these people.

But there is something to Tesla. He picked Tesla, for a reason.

And I don't think enough people. They're like, oh, yeah. Well, he was, you know, the electric guy. And he wanted to electrify things. And, you know, Tesla.

No. There's a lot more to Tesla's story than that. And I think if you really want to understand him.

I could be wrong on this. I think if you really want to understand him, you have to understand Tesla.

You have to understand Edison. Tesla.

You have to understand Howard Hughes.

You have to understand Orson Wells.

You have to understand these people, who when their back was against the wall went, screw you!

I will talk a little bit about that tomorrow.

STU: Yeah, this is the ultimate power, to be able not to care about this. And this just doesn't come with his money for Elon Musk.

GLENN: No. There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people.

If he cared about money, he would fold.

STU: Yeah. And everything -- everybody from his younger years, says he never talked about money, when he was trying to develop these ideas.

It was never the idea that drove him.

He figured, eventually, it would come from this.

He at one point, said, I'll either end up incredibly wealthy or have $0.

GLENN: I think I've been quoted saying that too.

STU: Zero for you than him.

GLENN: We'll -- we'll be living the high life or I'll be living under a bridge.

STU: Right. But I think that's essential to understand his mindset. You know, at some -- it's like, one of the reasons why I started reading the book about him. Was because I don't fully understand some of the stuff that happens with him.

At some point, I'm like, is he the most amazing businessman in the world? Or is he not really good businessman at all?

It's not even a criticism. It's like, he doesn't care about the business side of it, in some way. It's not exactly true. Because obviously he's built these giant companies, and he's been very successful.

GLENN: He's a genius.

He's just -- he doesn't seem to care as much about the business side.

STU: Right.

The priority for him is whatever emission he's decided. And he, early on in life, believed.

It was three things that he believed were really important.

One was space travel. One was the environment. I'm trying to think what the third one was.

GLENN: It wasn't chicks.

STU: No.

GLENN: No. Again, he seemed to have participated in this book a lot.

So I don't know how -- if he would say it was completely fair.

They definitely make him out. At times to be pretty rough. On some of his -- of his mates.

As throughout life. Like, they had some pretty rough relationships on both sides.

GLENN: Look at the way he was raised. Both sides.

STU: Of course, I think it was central to who he is.

GLENN: It is. It is.

STU: Look, I don't think he's the easiest person to deal with. People in his life say that. But also, that's part of the way he's been able to achieve what he's been able to achieve.

GLENN: I knew a guy who was a genius. Absolute genius.

STU: Thanks, man.

GLENN: No. Nothing like you.

An absolute genius. The guy could do and think in levels you can't even imagine. Okay?

He so many times, would just be frustrated. You know, I would talk to him and think -- and he would be like, oh, God. No. Glenn. This.

And I said to him at one point, you -- you get tired of people talking to you, who just cannot think as fast. I don't think -- I've never seen Elon talk down to people.

I mean, he may, in his private life. I have never seen him in public, talk down to people. I've never seen him frustrated.

But he's got to be.

Because he's thinking it -- it -- at different levels.

And all of these press people. How -- how frustrated are people who actually are trying to do something, they believe in.

And then, everyone around them, is trying to make it about something that is so much smaller.

STU: Right.

GLENN: Your fame. Your fortune. Whatever. Politics.

Yeah. You've got to just be, oh, God.

Would these people, shut up. They -- I mean, open your mind a bit. And see a bigger picture.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I -- I -- he has to go through that, a lot. A lot.

STU: I think he does.

I think that's definitely true.


THIS is who the government is TARGETING instead of REAL terrorists

Instead of protecting our skies from actual threats, the Department of Homeland Security has ordered federal air marshals to focus on 2 things: doing menial tasks at the border and following people affiliated with January 6th. But if that isn't frustrating enough, Glenn speaks with former federal air marshal Sonya Hightower-LaBosco, who is blowing the whistle about who our government is targeting. According to her, the list of people affiliated with January 6th includes an 8-week-old BABY who wasn't even conceived at the time of the riot. Sonya explains the insane illogic behind that decision as well as what she believes all this nonsense may lead to: "My biggest concern is we're going to have another 9/11."


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Okay. So last night, I was having a conversation, with Sonya Hightower LaBosco. And this is how it ended. Listen to this.

This person returned to the hotel. It is important to know that, blank, never set foot in the Capitol grounds. In fact, suffered from a disability that makes it difficult for her to walk.

This air marshal, the 27 years of experience. Do you remember this case?

What was he assigned to do?

SONYA: I do. And that's his wife we're talking about, Glenn. He's a special air ops marshal, and he assigns the teams of air marshals to follow these individuals that are on Quiet Skies or Select D. So this air marshal actually came in. It was his job to assign the missions for that day. Opened his computer and saw a photograph of his wife listed as a suspected domestic terrorist, knowing that she had nothing to do with the Capitol. She didn't even go to the Capitol that day. And we proved that through many, many different ways from geo tracking, her cell phone, her Uber receipts. You name it. We proved it.

GLENN: All right. I have less than a minute. You have to tell me if this is true. Did we actually use the air marshal to track a four -- what was it? A four-month old, four-week-old baby?

SONYA: Yes, Glenn. We're doing that now. The baby is eight week old. The baby was not even conceived. An eight-week-old baby, who is on the terrorist watch list. That is correct.

GLENN: I didn't have time to fully delve into why our air marshals are following. And I bet it's not hard to track, the eight-week-old newborn that is now on the terrorist watch list.

Now, one of my kids, well, two of my kids, they were born with I believe explosive stuff in their system.

And when they would drop a bomb, sometimes, it was nasty. But I never thought, we should call an air marshal.

But apparently, at eight weeks, I mean, that's basic boot camp, isn't it?

Eight weeks. What can these babies do to us?

Sonya is with us again.

Sonya, tell us the story of the eight-week-old baby.

SONYA: Okay. So, Glenn, this story was just broke by Uncover DC and Wendy Mahone. This eight-week-old baby is on the terrorist watch list. And it's not just one air marshal that will be signed. It's a minimum of three. So you will have three air marshals following this eight-week-old baby. No matter if the baby travels with the grandparents. If the baby just travels with cousins. It doesn't matter. Once the baby is on the list, by their name, the baby is going to stay on that list.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on. Hang on.

Did the parents do something?

SONYA: The father, I think the father was -- I think they got him for parading on January the 6th. I think he faced a charge. Yeah. He either walked through the Capitol. Or he did something of that nature, on January the 6th.

GLENN: Parading. Oh, my gosh. Not parading.

SONYA: And this is -- I think it was his fiancé that booked the ticket for her and the baby. I don't know if they're married. I think this was his fiancé. But she booked the tickets for her and the baby to go on, I think a holiday vacation down to Puerto Rico.

GLENN: So he wasn't even with them?

SONYA: No, he wasn't with them then. He wasn't. No. He wasn't.


SONYA: So he's with them now, they are a family. So they were flying down to visit family, I just in Puerto Rico. And lo and behold, you know, they get to the airport. She gets to the airport. They print out the boarding passes.

And here's the baby. As you can see, I think I sent you the picture.

It's the infant on the boarding pass. It says INFT, and it has the four showcasing that they're on the watch list.

GLENN: Well, has the baby blown anything up? I mean, just I have to ask. Has the baby -- is the baby involved in things right now? I mean, you never can tell.

SONYA: I mean, Glenn, the baby wasn't even born. The baby wasn't even conceived. Wasn't even thought at that moment.

This was back in January of 2021. We're going three years later.

GLENN: This is unbelievable.

SONYA: I mean, I knew -- I knew that we had been following a 6-year-old boy and a 9-year-old child. I knew that. That was the all-time low for the information we received. But when we received the information on the eight-week-old baby, I mean, how -- how low can you go, within the government, for these -- these -- to pacify the swamp, right?

Because this is what we're pacifying with TSA and the air marshals.

We're pacifying the swamp members that want Americans targeted because they exercised their First Amendment right or they attended a rally, or they weren't even there. Anyone affiliated with January 6th, whether you were at the Capitol or the rally. It does not matter. The swamp wants you targeted.

GLENN: So to give people perspective, and Sonya, I believe one of the most -- I think we did two things right after 9/11.

We put air marshals on the plane. And we made the -- the door to the pilots bulletproof. Those two things, I think are the best things we ever did.

Everything else was just government nonsense, for the most part, I think. At least the way it's been executed.

The -- the air marshals are not on board of our planes now.

Because they're not only just following babies and children. But they are also on our border.


SONYA: That is correct, Glenn. We have been forced to go down to the border for over two years now.

The Air Marshal National Council, the group I've worked with. We've been fighting that because we know that we have very limited resources in the first place.

I mean, the air marshals are only a couple of thousand, specialty group, inside of TSA, which TSA is a big administrative 65,000 bureaucratic agency.

I mean, you have this little small law enforcement component, inside of this administrative agency. And they're smothering, our duties as law enforcement, with all their bureaucratic administrative red tape that they are using for a political agenda.

GLENN: And our air marshals are doing what, on the border?

SONYA: They're doing non-law enforcement duties, non-law enforcement. They are driving people to the hospital. They are walking around the facility once an hour, and checking -- while everything is quiet. I didn't see any doors unlocked. They were at the front gates, signing vehicles in and out.

Okay. Well, there's a delivery. All right. This first came in at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. They left at 2:30. They're handing out water. They're making sandwiches. They are doing nothing, nothing that they should be doing to thwart hijacking in the aircraft.

GLENN: What's your biggest concern on all of this?

SONYA: My biggest concern is that we're going to have another 9/11, Glenn. We're blinking red. If there was ever a time in this country. It's not even incompetence.

This is not incompetence. This is intentional.

How can you take the only resource we have from the air. And put them down on the border, to do no duty.

That's the thing.

We're not even doing anything down there, and we're letting the American people. We're ushering in illegals. We're catering to the illegals.

And the American people who buy train tickets. And pay security fees. And expect to be safe. Have nobody looking out for them.

GLENN: You know what is amazing to me is I didn't even put the air -- I didn't even think of the air marshals. Story after story, sometimes it feels like it's once a week.

We'll hear about some crazy person on a plane. That started an argument. Or whatever.

And not once have I thought, wait a minute.

Where is the air marshal?

Because the air marshals are the ones that -- hey. Sit down. If there's a problem. You don't usually have to land the plane right away. For some jerk, which the airlines have been doing.

These -- all these incidents of these jerks on planes, that's maybe happening more often, because we don't have an air marshal. Is that logical?

SONYA: Glenn, that's logical. Look, and these have been some very serious incidents. If you look over the last two years. Just alone, when we're fighting. We know the air marshals are on the are border.

We have had flight attendants stabbed. We have had breaches of the cockpit.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.


SONYA: Yes. We've had -- United Flight 2609 from Los Angeles to Boston, in 2022, there was a flight attendant stabbed on that aircraft. That's correct.

GLENN: How -- what did they use? A plastic knife?

SONYA: He -- he went in, we're not sure where he got it.

He made some type of homemade shank in the bathroom. We don't know if he had it on him or did he get a spoon. We don't know how he -- he made a shank.

GLENN: Okay. So that happened in the last two years, and we still don't know how he did that.

Okay. And then the cockpits have been breached?

SONYA: Yes. Well, there's been level four threats, that's been called out, with the captain stating that the cockpits, they were trying to reach the cockpit.

There has been incident after incident that has happened. And every one of these incidents were normal flights air marshals would have been on. The long hall flights. Remember, that's when al-Qaeda took our planes for, when they took them. They took the planes with the most fuel, so that's east coast to west coast. Those are flights we normally would have been on. But we're not on those flights. Because we're at the border, or following January 2021 people that were at the rally or at the Capitol. That's what our duties are doing.

GLENN: Your organization.

You know, you represent the federal air marshals, and you've done this.

How -- how worried are the air marshals about -- I mean, you know, the country is at red alert. We know this.

We've heard it. We've heard the -- the Homeland Security say, we're on high alert right now.

For terror.

What are they saying? What are the actual air marshals saying?

They have to be going crazy.

SONYA: They're going nuts. They're going nuts, Glenn. This is 22 years they've been fighting.

22 years. A lot of the women who came over, came over after 9/11. Went to -- we tried to prevent this from happening again.

And we are being handcuffed by this administration, totally handcuffed. There's nothing we can do.

Because this administration doesn't want us to do anything.

GLENN: Okay. So what do we do?

I mean, besides expose us.

SONYA: Glenn, we have to get out of TSA.

This is what happens when you have an administrative bias. Political bias association. Like TSA, running a law enforcement program.

They weaponize -- they weaponize the air marshals for their political gain.

GLENN: Well, we won't send them to the FBI or any other government institution. I think they should be locally -- you know, wherever they're living, that airport should possibly do it.

You know, San Francisco is the only airport that doesn't hire the TSA to run their security. And they catch more things than any other airport.

And I can't believe I'm giving credit to San Francisco. You can't give it to another government agency.

Sonya, thank you so much. I would like to talk you to again, on how we can serve you, and help get our air marshals back our planes.

Something is going to happen. And there will be no doubt, no doubt, who exactly is responsible for terrorist activity in this country.

I can name them right now.

Sonya, thank you for exposing this. God bless you.


3 examples of EXACTLY why CBDCs are a THREAT to your freedom

Despite the popularity of private monetary systems like Bitcoin and payment systems like Venmo, governments around the world are still pushing for the creation of "central bank digital currencies" (CBDCs). But what are these currencies and what would they mean for societies? Glenn plays 3 clips from officials around the globe who have explained exactly why CBDCs — which ARE coming — are "imprisonment dressed up as freedom."


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So I just saw that Bitcoin is down, what $537 today?

STU: Panic!

GLENN: Yeah. I know. Panic. It is incredibly -- it's almost up to 40,000 again. It's like 38 or $37,000 now per Bitcoin.

STU: Legitimately incredible.

Considering, there's been a slew of bad news over the past year. People may know Sam Bankman-Fried. There's a big finance thing that happened last week.

GLENN: But you also have the government saying, we're never going to do that. We're going to introduce our own fed coin.

STU: Yeah. Elizabeth Warren, is not on board.

So if Elizabeth Warren is on board, should you be?

I mean, shouldn't you agree with whatever Elizabeth Warren says.

GLENN: She's not on board for --

STU: She's not a big fan of Bitcoin. I'm sure she would be fine with that.

But does not want Bitcoin.

This is decentralized. They don't have control of it.

So, of course, people don't like it. But it is interesting to see. This is a big part of what the Argentinian, the guy Milei has done there.

He's a big Bitcoin guy.

You know, there's --

GLENN: I would love to see.

STU: A lot of the candidates are pretty good on this topic as well.

Including, even, I would have to say, RFK Jr is good on this. I'm not a fan of.

Ramaswamy is big on this.

DeSantis has been really good on the Central Bank Digital Currency.

People are like, why is he even talking about this a year ago is if

Well, I think we've seen how important it is.

GLENN: Let me show you. Because I want to put together a show next year on CBDC. And show what it really is.

Let me just show you a couple of things that I've found here recently.

Cut 11. This is a Dutch political commentator. On Central Bank Digital Currencies.

Because this is happening all over the Western world. Listen.

VOICE: If we accept the fact that a QR code grants us access to society, what makes you think, that they won't link that to anything else except for your vaccination status?

What if that green screen on your phone, that grants you access to society, turns red the moment you take a flight. Or you eat meat too much. Or you didn't recycle your plastic yesterday? How dare you.

What if that green screen on your phone, that is linked to your digital wallet. That's filled with nothing more, but -- I'm going to say it.

Central Bank Digital Currencies.

Will turn red, the moment you say, something the government classifies as hate speech.

What if they can turn off your life, at the push of one button.

If they can do it to China, they can do it here.

Ladies and gentlemen, freedom that is limited to those who do and say exactly what the government wants to do and say, is no freedom.

It's imprisonment, disguised as freedom.

And we need to see it for what it is. If we want to turn this around, that is.

We need to wake up. We need to speak up.

We need to say no. Draw a line. And disobey these laws.

GLENN: Now, listen in Australia, here's a politician in Australia, warning the Australians about Central Bank Digital Currencies.
Cut 50.

VOICE: Every month, the Trusted Digital Identity Bill represents a watershed moment in Australian history. We stand at the divide between a free personal enterprise future and a digital surveillance age.

If nothing is done to stop this bill, government will sit in the middle of every interaction Australia has had with each other and with the world.

And achieves this in the same way that China does.

By creating a digital identity, that forms a central part of a person's life. You can call it a license to live.

What began with perfect contact tracing, vaccine passports, and QR check-ins will soon be formalized by an inescapable digital identity.

It signals the complete end of consumer privacy, the end of citizen enormity, and the beginning of a Big Brother digital age that treats the people of Australia as products rather than free human beings.

The government intends to build a complete digital record of every Australian, to be shared and used.

Our medical history. Our shopping preferences. Who we associate with.

Whether our choices are really so-called green. Social Security. Veteran services.

Travel records. Website viewing. Employment data. And social media comments.

Everything will go on the record, and be available to any large corporation that can pay for access.

GLENN: Now, let me give you one from the United States.

This is a member of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve. This is the president of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank.

This is what he says about CBDC's. Central Bank Digital Currencies.

Do you think that that is something you should be looking into seriously? And to what degree should you be looking into it seriously?

What are your thoughts on CBDC?

VOICE: My colleagues at the Federal Reserve may have talked about it. We are examining it.

I'll tell you, my personal bias is I'm pretty skeptical. I keep asking anybody, anybody, at the fed. Or outside the fed. To explain to me, what problem this is solving.

I can send anybody in this room, $5 with Venmo right now. No, seriously. So what is it that a CBDC can do, that Venmo can't do?

And all I get is a bunch of hand waving. Like, well, maybe it's better for financial inclusion. Maybe, it's better for cross-border -- maybe. Is there any evidence that it is?

And, you know, they say, well, what about China?

China is doing it. Well, I can see why China would do it. If they want to monitor every one of your transactions, you can do that with the Central Bank Digital Currency. You can't do that with Venmo.

If you want to impose negative interest rates, you can do that with the Central Bank Digital Currency. You can't do that with Venmo. And if you want to directly tax customer accounts. You can do that with the Central Bank Digital Currency. You can't do that with Venmo.

I get why China would be interested. Why would the American people be for that?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: So this kind of goes into what I'm talking about tonight, on TV. Gaslighting. Do you know what that term even means?

STU: Yeah. I did. I didn't for a long time. But I do now.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Mainly because so many people say it, I made myself look it up. And I was like, what does this even mean? I don't even understand it. And it is. I mean, it is -- it is really -- it seemingly is really going on.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

I'm going to prove it to you tonight.

STU: Okay.

GLENN: First of all, I'm starting this show tonight, going back to the 1940s, and showing you where, you're being gas lit. They're gaslighting you. Where that term came from. Where that went.

It's important context. Because the polls are in.

The two issues Americans are most concerned about right now. Number one, the economy. Number two, immigration.

And the gaslighting on these two issues from the Biden administration and the media, are -- it's crazy.

It is crazy town. Bonkers. We're being lied to about the state of the economy. We're being lied to, about what's happening at the border.

Tonight, I will show you the real numbers. And they are a little shocking.

They're a little shocking.

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