RADIONovember 06, 2023

Leftists go after BIRD NAMES for being ... RACIST?!

To the Left, EVERYTHING is racist ... including bird names, apparently. Glenn and Stu review an announcement from the American Ornithological Society that it's changing the names of around 80 bird species that are either named after people or have somehow been deemed offensive. Then, they break down why this is utterly ridiculous in every way possible.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Oh, man.

Is everything racist?

STU: It's time for another episode of everything is racist!
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GLENN: We're going to pantoverse now. As we are looking at ornithology.

STU: Yes! It's very important, Glenn. I hope you know that a lot of the familiar names you know, from birding. I know you're a big birder. Big birder. People don't know that.

GLENN: I'm not a big birder. I don't know anyone who is a big birder.

STU: Oh, huge birder.

GLENN: I eat birds.

STU: That's why you're looking for them. It's a little bit differently than the typical birder. You do it a little bit differently.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: But you will have to say goodbye to some very familiar bird names. Like, I mean, say it with me. Anna's hummingbird.

GLENN: Anna's hummingbird. Anna's hummingbird.

STU: Gambel's quail.

GLENN: Gambel's quail.

STU: Lewis's woodpecker.

GLENN: Lewis's woodpecker. That one sounds like we shouldn't talk about it.
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What is that? That's Lewis's woodpecker. Stop playing with that.

STU: Just leave him alone.

Bullock's oriole. How many times have you been like, oh, look. It's Bullock's oriole right over there?

GLENN: I usually just say it's an Oriole. But when it's Bullock's oriole, it rubs me wrong. It rubs me wrong.

STU: It does.

Well, apparently this will go away. Because of the American Ornithological Society, how they viewed to change the English names of all bird species, currently named after people.

Along with any other bird names deemed offensive or exclusionary. Now --

GLENN: Okay. Okay. Hang on just a second. To whom? The birds? The watchers?

STU: No, the birds don't care. It's apparently about human beings, as they discuss in the article.

GLENN: Okay. So is this happening all over the world, in every language? Any other society that has named a bird?

STU: There's only one society that matters.

And it's the American Ornithological Society, which is a word I've said many, many times. Not just starting yesterday.

GLENN: You remember.

STU: Yes.

Now, there have also been bird names named after Native American tribes. Because that's also offensive, like the Washington Redskins. That was offensive, had to get rid of it.

Even though about 90 percent of the people in the tribe approved of it. That didn't matter. This move comes as a part of a broader effort to diversify birding, and make it more welcoming to people of all races and backgrounds.

GLENN: You know what, I have to tell you, because you know me.

I'm one with the hood.

And I'm down with my peeps in the hood.

And we're listening to --

STU: Lizzo?

GLENN: Lizzo.

And she's like, where is --

STU: Where my phone?

GLENN: Where my phone in and I say to myself, Lizzo, have you thought of perhaps bird watching?

STU: Birding. Let's call it the appropriate term.

GLENN: I'm in the hood.

STU: This is a slang term for birding. I got it.

GLENN: And she says, where the hell my phone. And I said, you don't need one. You just go out with all the stuff you might get from the ornithology society. And you just go watch them birds.

And she said to me, and this is a quote. Birding is too racist. And I said, I'm with you. I'm with you on that.

But can you explain?

And she said, huh. I don't think I have to, you to, Glenn. And I said, damn right.

STU: That's right. I remember, you told me about that conversation. With contemporaneous notes backing that up, if anyone wants to see it. So this is very common actually. There's a lot of people just sitting around and saying, you know, I would love to get into birding. But I find the name Louis' woodpecker to be a little offensive.

GLENN: Can we use something else besides?

STU: No. Because there's never been an African-American.

GLENN: A hole in the side of a barn. And now I have to replace that whole --

STU: With Louis' woodpecker?

GLENN: No. Because Louis put a hole in the barn.

STU: It's a large bird.

GLENN: Is it?

Let's stop.

STU: Louis had a big bird.

And a lot of people talk about it.

GLENN: Let's move on.

STU: But, you know, are there a lot of people that go through this process?

Because there's never been an African-American name with the last name Louis. That's never occurred. Certainly throughout history.

GLENN: Well, Joe.

STU: Carroll. You know, I don't know. There's been some.

But you would think --

GLENN: The one who wrote Alice in Wonderland.

STU: That one. Yeah, whoever that one was.

So biologist Erica Nole says, she was recently visiting some salt marshes. Now, I know you have a time share near a salt marsh that you visit often.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. I get all my salt there.

STU: She saw a common bird there called Wilson's snipe. As you know, there's never been an African-American with the last name Wilson. They don't -- that never occurred.

GLENN: Flip.

STU: Russell. So which -- this bird has a long bill and engages in dramatic displays such as flying in high circles, which produces a whistling sound as air flows over specialized feathers. Very good execution. You are a birder. I can tell.

GLENN: That's the Wilson snipe.

STU: Which I actually this is a pretty cool name.

GLENN: Snipe! Snipe!

STU: But it doesn't say Wilson. It just says snipe.

GLENN: Snipe.

STU: And this biologist says, quote, and I thought, what a terrible name. I mean, Wilson was the father of modern ornithology.

GLENN: But.

STU: But this bird has so many other evocative characteristics. I mean, all --

GLENN: You know, when I think of the guy who founded modern ornithology. When I think of him, I think, that damn Wilson.

That damn Wilson. His name is everywhere. Everywhere.

STU: What color was Wilson with Tom Hanks?

White. The ball was white. Remember that.

GLENN: I got it.

STU: Okay. So that's the typical craziness.

Number one, they're calling the bird names racist. And acting like some Hispanic person is like, I can't. I would never go into birding now.

I've always wanted to bird. But the name Louis!

I may not bird now.

GLENN: Snipe!

STU: Beautiful bird. A little annoying if it's around your house. But a beautiful bird.

So you have that part.

GLENN: I have a whole nest of them.

STU: Yeah. Secondary part of this, which is ridiculous. They're not just targeting. I guess there are people who have named birds. Who also were in the 1980s. And made racial remarks. Or did something terrible.

I don't know. But they're not just targeting those people.

GLENN: I mean, if it's like Sherman's N-word. I get it. I get it.

STU: You would understand that. You would understand the name change with that one.

And like, it's hard. We understand how this process works. We might think it's stupid. Erasing history.

But like, this has happened all across the country, at this point. They're tearing down statues of freaking Ben Franklin.

GLENN: These guys are not. They're not necessarily bad guys. Wilson is not a bad guy.

STU: Right. They're not targeting only people who have done things that could be deemed offensive by modern sensibilities.

GLENN: Does Tom -- Tom's blue jay.

STU: Tom's blue jay.

GLENN: Tom was a badass guy. He knocked over a few of the Southland corporation's best 7-Elevens back in the '40s.

STU: There you go. That's a whole 'nother story. But they're targeting anyone, any name. If you're named after a person, they're getting rid of it. Even if you're the best person in the world.

GLENN: Not all around the world. Just American.

STU: Just the American ornithology society.

GLENN: And that's crazy.

That's baseline crazy. There's another level of crazy with this story.

And here it comes. The president Colleen Handle says, that was the first I ever really recognized or heard a name was offensive.

She says, at that point in time, concerns about injustice, weren't an acceptable reason for changing bird names. But it really started to change, in 2020.

GLENN: Snipe!

STU: When police officer killed George Floyd in Minneapolis.

GLENN: Wait. That's when the birders said enough of this.

STU: Enough the Wilson snipe.

And the Louis' woodpecker. Because George Floyd has been killed in Minneapolis.

Now, you might say, well, what the hell does that have to do with anything.

This is a totally different story.

GLENN: No. I might say, produce one birder that said that.

Produce just one that said that.

STU: But the issue was that it was not really George Floyd's murder.

GLENN: Oh, it wasn't?

STU: Because on that same day. You may remember. You may forget. This was the exact same day as George Floyd's murder.

GLENN: Same day. Same day. Remember this.

STU: A white woman, in Central Park.

GLENN: In Central Park.

STU: Called the police on a black birder.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

STU: Named Christian Cooper.

GLENN: So he was a birder.

He was a guy who was in the bushes watching, maybe looking for Louis' woodpecker.

STU: She called the police, claiming he was threatening her. Less than a month later, the group called...

GLENN: The group called.

STU: The name is so good. Less than a month later, a group called Bird Names for Birds.
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Bird Names for Birds. I've got to join this organization.

GLENN: Wow! I want -- can you look it up, Sara, real quick. Just look up for their mission statement.

What is their mission statement?

Imagine going door to door, trying to get people to go into -- we represent the Bird Names for Birds Club. Okay.

STU: Yeah. Okay. So Bird Names For Birds. They come through. They write to the American Orinthological Society and say, hey! George Floyd was killed.

This birder was -- the police were called by a white woman on this black birder. Therefore, we should get rid of Wilson's name from Wilson's Snipe. That's basically how this conversation went.

Now, the problem with this story, if you remember, it was called the Central Park Karen story. This was the story.

And the main issue with this part of it is the story has been utterly and completely debunked.

At the --

GLENN: There was no blackbirder.

STU: Not utterly and completely.

But the blackbirder did exist. Is a human being. But there's a lot of details you haven't heard about it.

Should we go into those?

GLENN: Yeah. I would like to go into the detail.

Give me a minute to just get over. Snipe!

Let me get past that.

STU: Majestic.

GLENN: That was actually the bird. That wasn't me doing that. That's how close my --

STU: You did the call. That's how --

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STU: So if you remember how this story went down, here's -- here's a couple of headlines. A black man bird watching in Central Park, asked a white woman to leash her dog. She called the police.

Amy Cooper was her name.

She was charged in Central Park false report against a blackbird watcher.

GLENN: Is that an actual crime? Is that the crime she was charged with?

STU: A false police report, yeah.

GLENN: Oh. But not against a blackbird watcher.

STU: Well, that's a separate crime.

It's like a hate crime.

There's false reports. Against blackbirders.

GLENN: And that's bad.

STU: So let me give you the -- the footage of this incident.

Because you'll remember it, when you hear it.

This is Amy Cooper.

Being very frantic. And, I mean, she's hysterical this clip.

Of course, the blackbirder was in the right.

Here is Amy Cooper. This is from the day George Floyd died.
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VOICE: Please don't come close to me.

VOICE: Sir, I'm asking you to stop.

VOICE: Please don't come close to me. Please call the cops. Please call the cops.

VOICE: I'm going to tell them you're threatening my life.

VOICE: Please tell them whatever you like.

VOICE: I'm sorry. There's a man. I'm looking at him. He's recording me, threatening me and my dog.

There is an African-American man, I'm in Central Park. He is recording me and threatening myself and my dog. I'm being threatened by a man. Please send the cops immediately.

I'm in Central Park. I don't know.

VOICE: Thank you.

STU: Okay. Now, she's very concerned.

GLENN: She's very hysterical. He seems like he's under control, and a nice guy.

STU: Calm guy.

GLENN: It's two New Yorkers that are just probably a little nuts.

STU: There are -- to take you back to this moment in all seriousness. New York City around May 2020, were pretty freaking nuts. People were afraid to go outside. This is like the very beginning of COVID. And we can all look back at some of the hysteria then, with the -- certainly noticing how ridiculous that was.

GLENN: Oh, that's probably why she, in her twisted New York way. Said, he's threatening my life. Because she said, don't come closer to me.

And he's wearing a mask.

STU: Well, that could be that.

Remember too, she also had health problems. She was predisposed to being more effective to COVID. She had barely had gone outside. She was a terrified person.

And A lot of people in New York at that point were very terrified.

Some of them remain to this day.

GLENN: They still are.

STU: But what happened to her afterward?

She was a white woman called police on blackbird watcher has been fired.

They took her dog from her.

GLENN: They took her dog?

STU: They took her dog.

And she actually went into hiding.

Left the country. And went into hiding after this.

So let's just say for a minute, she is a racist, and she did this.

You wouldn't necessarily think you would have to leave the country.

She was being threatened by people. She was terrified by everybody.

It was very, very bad for her.

When we come back on the other side. I want to give you the actual perspective of what occurred in this incidence.

Because nobody knows. Everybody watched it that way. The media covered it the way I just described.

Racist white Karen, going after this black guy for absolutely no reason.

And she -- she -- good. She got fired. Good, they took her dog. Good, she's out of the country. She's a terrible human being in every way.

GLENN: Yeah. I don't agree with that. I'm glad maybe she's out of the country. But for entirely different reasons.

STU: Really?

GLENN: Yeah. Gee, we lost another New Yorker, who was walking their dog in the park. And was all freaked out about going inside. Oh.

But I would like her to move away in happy terms. Like, I really don't like it here. People make too much. Sense.

STU: Well, that's true. As far as I know, she's not even a member of bird names for birds.

GLENN: Oh, no. I have it pulled up here. I'll look.

STU: Oh, you do? Can I join?

GLENN: Well, I was just looking at the background. Concerns about the honorific common bird names is not new. But this movement seeks to change those names.

STU: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Thank God. Thank God these names are going away.

GLENN: So they're very upset about Bachman's sparrow, was the first one they bring. Yeah, Bachman.

STU: Really? What did Bachman do?

GLENN: Bachman was bad. Just, well, Bachman, I believe that's probably Jewish.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: And the Jewish Zionists, they control all of the bird names.

STU: I've been hearing that a lot on college campuses.

That's interesting you bring that up.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
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GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.

GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.

Did the Swamp RUIN the Big Beautiful Bill?

The Senate just sent the “Big Beautiful Bill” back to the House. But Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck with a warning: This isn’t the same bill President Trump proposed! The Swamp has made sure to cut back on its reforms. But are Trump’s tax cuts too important to fail?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

Chip is a congressman, and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip?

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I'm -- you know, I'm continuing to work through, and trying to deliver the American people. But it's getting hard.

I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now.

GLENN: Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

You are just living -- who doesn't want your job?

My gosh, what's -- what -- a glorious. Glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

CHIP: Yeah, there's -- there's been -- no, no, no.

GLENN: So tell me.

Tell me, is this thing gotten better or worse?

CHIP: Unfortunately, Glenn. I believe it's gotten worse.

Now, we've not seen the final product of the Senate. We don't have the tax. We've got to review it.

I try to be level-headed during these things. I had enormously strong and good friends in the administration, who in good faith, want to see this pass. Just as you do. Just as I do, just as the American people do.

They want to see a move forward in legislation to make tax cuts permanent. To deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Steven Miller is a long-time friend. I've known him 25 years.

Russ Voit is a long-time friend. I've known him for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver.

The problem is, the swamp is going to swamp.

And right now, we have a bill, that in my estimation, violates the house framework.

But more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views.

GLENN: More. More than it did. More than it did, right?

CHIP: Quite a bit, in my view.

And look, there is going to be a debate about this. About tax cuts. And revenues. And all the stuff.

And I get it. Baseline. CBO. All these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing. Factor in revenues. And expenditures.

And what we're doing, on mandatory spending.

Which is not enough.

The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid. To go to illegals. Because of some arcane center rules.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries.

The fact that we're going to -- in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years.

Which means, you will have more interest.

Which means, it's going to stack up, all to get savings, in five years.

That's not what you and I signed up for.

Now, I'm looking at this, trying to say, okay.

The president wants tax cuts. So does I.

The president wants borders, so do I.

I think the president wants us to repeal the entire Green New scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful.

Like handle Medicaid appropriately, and all of that, for our American citizens that depend on it.

But we haven't delivered. Because the Senate has a bunch of people in it, who don't want to deliver, and they are hiding behind the parliamentarian, and they're delivering the product that I didn't come to Washington, to sign up for, Glenn.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

Is that -- I mean, they -- they say, there was a change in the bill, because of the Medicare paid to the illegals. And the parliamentarian said you have to keep it in there. Some arcane rule or whatever.

Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

Is it fair -- what?

CHIP: They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a change, if they wanted to do so.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Now, some of these things take 60 votes. If they want to address this, they can address it.

But the real issue here is that behind the closed doors, what you know, is that there are senators, who don't want to make the reforms.

Don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices. Based on what they want.

Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now. Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve-out for additional spending, for people in Alaska.

You've got, you know, Tillis. You've got others. They want us to go the wrong direction, when it comes to Medicaid reform.

And, Glenn. I've got to be honest. How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade, talking about shutdowns by discretionary spending. Like every two years.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

CHIP: Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights. The people of this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.

It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting all our time.

I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations in America.

But I said, okay. Guys, here we are.

We are going to do this reconciliation package. We will reform Medicaid, right? We ended up fighting like cats and dogs to get the reforms, the work requirements we got out of the House. It was good. Not great.

The Senate, now they're working through it. And they are fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thank to Rick Scott.

He's been fighting hard. Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We've got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes. But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

We're getting watered down, somewhat on illegals. How about missed taxes, Glenn?

We passed a measure in the House, to tax money going from America, so people going here illegally back to their own country.

The Senate -- it's crazy!

GLENN: Why? Why? Why?

CHIP: Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing, there are bankers. Banks. Who came here and said, guys, this would be really hard on us.

If we had to enforce this policy.

Money flowing from our banks and institutions.

Mexico.

And Columbia.

And places. We really need a carve out, so the banks won't be taxed by this, and then they will go.

It would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're working hard, and they want to spend money on their families. But you and I both have a heart for what people face. And want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here, who is following the law, who came here illegally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that, but we're taxing. Instead of saying, no, we're not going to do it.

But the biggest thing at the end of the day. Deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

GLENN: So you're not going to vote for them?

You're not voting for this.

CHIP: I can't. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement.

And, Glenn, this is important.

The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill up. I get that. And I want to deliver. For six months, I've been busting my butt.

I voted for a bill that came out of the house, that I didn't like. It wasn't good enough. But I thought it was an important step.

I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jerry Harrington and others, to figure out, how to get this done and get it out of the House.

I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that are good. We did get some tightening down on the green new scam, and others didn't want to do it.

But we are now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.

And importantly, the way they tax to spend policies. Overall, I can't look at this any way objectively, without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them. That the deficits will go up.

Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we will pay higher economic growth. Well, two things.

Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

We assumed 2.6 percent growth.

Now, you might say, well, gosh, we need three or four. Yeah, but we have to do a ten-year budget. 2.6 percent growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

We picked a sweet spot of 2.6 percent growth. It is true, that if we have 4 percent growth for a decade, we will have much more of it.

I hope that's true. You hope that's true.

And if it is true, then great. It's gravy, that will give us money to buy down the debt. And save money. And get the deficits down further.

But I can't budget to two and a half percent. Sitting at 2 percent growth

It would be irresponsible.

GLENN: So I'm with you, Chip. I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time -- the Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose, and they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would.

Donald Trump seems to be.

You know, at least he is trying.

He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

And so, you know, I don't know what -- what the midterm is going to look like.

But I will tell you this. He has to have that tax cut passed.

He's got to have it.

If we don't get that tax cut. Everything the Republicans have been trying to do. Or the Republican voters have wanted.

It's over. It's over.

Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?

CHIP: So I agree we must deliver on the tax cut. And I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way we will get to December, and not provide an extension of tax cuts, that were so important in 2017.

Now, I'll remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already.

Right?

What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues. Marginal rate. But also child tax credit. Also standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure.

I've got different views, on different ones of those policies.

Overall, we want to ensure, this stays in the pockets of the American people.

We have to deliver on that.

I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax.

If we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing the American bond markets.

Because we are so irresponsible.

Then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

They can't afford a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

GLENN: They can't afford it now, Chip.

They can't afford it now.

CHIP: So I think what we need to do, is I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I want to go home tomorrow, or the next day.
Let's just get busy. We've been working on it.

Let's tighten down some of the spending.
Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done. Get it set. Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

It was a good, solid bill.

And get the Senate to adopt it, and pass it.

Or make some modest changes. But we have to get rid of some of these ridiculous things. Like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like pork that's going to Alaska.

Like specific giveaways.

And, you know, get rid of those things.

Go back to the House bill.

Make sure the inflation act is getting terminated.

Deliver on the tax cuts. Deliver on the border.

Deliver for the president.

I'm prepared to do that. But I will not swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know how it's unpopular to say, no. We're not giving illegals any Medicare.

We're not.

Do you remember -- who was it, when we were in Congress. Barack Obama talked about Obamacare. He said, you lie!

Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing. Look at what we're doing.

Look at what we're giving illegals.

The answer is no.

No, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand, the green new deal, no! No!

USAID. No!

DOGE. Cut it. Why can't they see what -- I mean -- there is -- I mean to tell you, Chip. I don't mean to take this out on you. You're one of the good guys. You're trying to do this.

We're in between a rock and a hard place.

The president has to have what the president needs. To get the economy going.

We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms.

You have -- the president is not turning this economy around, fast enough.

Because he can't get anyone in Congress to do Jack crap on anything!

You need to cut the freaking spending. And the waste. And the garbage.

And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100 percent.

100 percent.

You are one of these weasel Republicans, who don't -- who just go along, and just be like, you know what, we're going to have another five or $6 trillion to our debt.

I'm done. I'm done.

And Elon has said, I will -- if it's the last thing I do. I will make sure that none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good.

That's not going to be good. For the republic.

Let alone, the Republican parties.

But, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough.

And I think the American people have too.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I will tell you this, July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day. Two hundred forty-nine years ago, and we already celebrated. We celebrate their courage. We celebrate Lexington and Concord.

We celebrate all the things -- we celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men in women in uniform have done to fight in this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'll have to vote for this bill, because there will be some political pressure.

When I regale the boys at the Alamo, sitting there, taking bullets. Knowing they were going to die.

But ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy.

Look, we have to deliver.

We have no choice. We all agree on that.

I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, a -- any number of things.

That I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it.

And I won't get defensive about it. The president wants this bill. And he is right to want this bill.

The Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending them. And I'm prepared to stay here, until we do.

But I won't vote for a bill, because I'm told I have to. Because a bunch of losers who are swamp creatures, who want pork and giveaways. Who don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people. And to actually reduce spending, and not hide behind parliamentaries. Not hide behind tax cuts.

They want to hide behind a tax cut, to tell me at the border, to tell me, you have to vote for this bill. Don't worry about this spending.

No, kiss my ass.

I will stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it!

STU: It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. Or I'm sorry. Not -- Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand -- stand firm in what you believe in.

And just keep the fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

Give the president what he needs. Fight for the president, what he's asking for.

But you got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it.

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