RADIOJune 02, 2025

Jill Biden faces subpoenas in autopen fraud bombshell!

The House Oversight Committee has begun investigating the potential abuse of President Biden’s autopen during his administration. Rep. James Comer, who chairs the committee, joins Glenn Beck to reveal what’s to come, and it may involve subpoenas - and possibly consequences - for big names like former First Lady Jill Biden and Joe Biden’s former Chief of Staff, Ron Klain.

Watch Glenn's full breakdown of Biden's autopen scandal HERE

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GLENN: The Congressman from Kentucky, James Comer is with us now.

We want to talk about the cover-up and the investigation that he is overseeing right now.

On, you know, what happened with the auto-pen. What happened with the president. Who is actually running the White House, and why this matters.

He represents Kentucky's first Congressional district. Serves as the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability.

Where he aggressively advocates for reducing waste, fraud, and abuse in government. Welcome, Congressman. How are you, sir?

JAMES: I'm great. Thanks for having me on.

GLENN: Great.

Your investigation has shown us now, that there may be as many as three. More than that. But three in like a little cabal. That were kind of orchestrating the use of the auto-pen.

For key executive actions. And pardons. Can you confirm whether you have any evidence, identifying a person or persons?

JAMES: Yeah. We have three -- we have very good sources, that point to four staffers. Most of them no one has ever heard of. That actually operated the auto-pen. Remember, even Joe Biden was on the top of his game.

And even if he were authorized for the use of his signature of an auto-pen. He's not the person that would take the document, and put it in the auto-pen and press the power button.

GLENN: Right.

JAMES: We've identified the four staffers.

We're fairly certain that these are the four staff theories put the auto-pen in operation. We're bringing them in.

We've asked them to come in, voluntarily.

Which that's to do a subpoena.

Tomorrow, Thursday is the deadline for their response.

We have given them a week to respond and lawyer up, and all of that. If they do not respond or if they say no, then they will get a subpoena the very next day from me. And they will have to New Jersey for a full-blown deposition. We want to find out the process. Who gave them the authority to use the auto-pen.

Then the next step will probably be the names, like Clyde and the people. Maybe Joe Biden.

The people that are -- who everyone suspects were possibly running the White House.
This is important!

Because so much was done in the last 100 days of the Biden administration. From an executive order, standpoint. They Trump-proofed the government. They Trump-proofed the government. With the auto-pen. Then we all know about the pardons.

But just the executive orders alone, these are given the Trump administration fits in court. He's trying to bring the federal police. The Joe Biden auto-pen signed an executive order, and saying they could continue to work from home.

They gave them collective bargaining rights and everything else. These are issues that are blocking the Trump agenda in court.

And think that we think should be invalid because they weren't legitimately signed by the president of the United States.

And furthermore, this investigation -- I didn't know, anything about these executive orders.

GLENN: So I've heard that we have a whistle-blower at a very high level of the Democratic Party, that has blown the whistle on a little cabal in the White House. That actually, what I heard, was that some people in the White House, had figured out a way to monetize the auto-pen. Is that -- is any of that true?

JAMES: We don't know, but those -- that will be a line of questioning, especially when you get to the pardons.

Remember, everybody knows about the pardons of the Biden family, as a result of our investigation.

But they pardoned thousands of people.

Some of them were murderers and rapists. Some were legitimate pardons, but when you're talking about thousands of -- who vetted them? Who gave them the authority?

Those -- and the auto-pen was used, in every one of those -- those, you know, pardons, outside of the Hunter Biden pardon.

It looks like the auto-pen was used on every single pardon issue by this president.

And, you know, there's rumors that -- that there were people that were monetized then. I don't know. But we will try to find out.

I will tell you this, a lot has come out in the last three weeks.

We've been waiting on this. We've been waiting on this Tapper book. We've been waiting for this Tapper book for a while.

Because we knew that he had sources inside the White House.

That spilled the beans on Joe Biden's mental incapacities.

So -- so this has helped fuel momentum for the investigation, more evidence has surfaced. So we're -- we're trying to go from there.

GLENN: So what specific legal or constitutional violations do you believe the auto-pen may have breached?

And how serious is this?

JAMES: Well, first of all, it's very serious.

Because, first of all, you have to physically sign anything pertaining to the law. I have to sign subpoenas.

I can't -- I have an auto-pen. Everybody in Congress has an auto-pen. Use an auto-pen to sign proclamations. And mass letters. And newsletters.

And things like that. But --

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

Didn't we in 2010, I don't know. Barack Obama. Maybe '8. Barack Obama is in Hawaii, and it was the first authorized use of the auto-pen for an executive order, or law or something.

So did that not change? Was that a one-time only thing?

JAMES: You know, our lawyers say, you have to sign anything pertaining to the law. You have to physically sign it.

If Obama had a situation where he was in another country and something had to go out, I don't think anyone would challenge that.

But to use the auto-pen for everything, for the last, at least 100 days of the administration when you had so much activity. You know, this wasn't an actual disaster. You had to do an executive order, to get food to people who were starving to death after a tornado in Kentucky or something.

GLENN: Right.

JAMES: This is Trump Trumping the next administration. To where you can't eliminate the Department of Education. Because you can't fire those employees. You can't make the employees have to go back to work.

You're giving them more rights to work from home. Where you sign the executive order, saying, oh, you've got to pay the student loan debt off. The list goes on and on.

My whole family, they're pardoned, by the way. You can't prosecute them.

You know, they're -- they're -- so -- can't touch them. So these are the kind of things. If I have a subpoena. I have to fly back to Washington. Or we have to overnight it.

There's a million things that you have to do, it has to get notarized and all this stuff.

This was -- this was not legal.

There's no way these will hold up in court. Especially, especially if there's no -- if there's no evidence that Joe Biden gave the order to use the auto-pen.

And we have found no evidence, where there were emails or anything, that said Joe Biden said, yes.

I want to find that executive order.

Or I want to find that pardon.

Just go ahead and get the document. And put it in the auto-pen.

Remember, he spent very few days, the last 100 days in the White House.

He was in Delaware. You know, going between his two mansions on the beach.

He was not in the White House. So there's a lot of evidence, that -- that will be hard for the Democrats. And their friends if the left and the media. To try to spin. That Joe Biden was actually running the show.

You know, during the time White House.

If you're the one giving the orders. Why not sign it there? Why do you have to use the auto-pen?

GLENN: You send letters to the personal physicians, as well as multiple advisers. Are we going to hear from the -- we all suspected that the president was not actually running things.

We have to know his -- you know, his -- the real truth about his mental capacity. Towards the end. Which would also strengthen the case, that he didn't have any idea about the auto-pen.

These weren't things that were coming from him. He was probably, you know, like Edith Wilson did with her husband.

Shoved underneath the hand. Or shoved with the auto-pen. Or signed without cognitively being able to know what he was signing.

JAMES: Yeah, and that's obviously why we're bringing the physician in. We have a lot of questions. We're going to consult with Ronny Jackson, if Ronny is available. I would love to have him in for that interview or deposition. Whatever it turns into.

Because he was the one that was under Trump. And I think that he has a lot of insight.

And I watched several of his interviews. So he knows exactly what is expected in the White House.

This Dr. O'Connor.

You know, he better be on the top of his game, because we have his predecessor in Congress, who has been very critical of -- of a lot of the segments that Dr. O'Connor put out, praising Joe Biden and his health. That comes out, that he's got Stage III prostate cancer.

And they're trying to say, well, we never tested him for prostate cancer. I mean, I can tell. I'm 52. I can test for prostate cancer. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay.

So we're talking to Congressman Comer, who is Kentucky's congressman for the first district. He's also the chairman of the House committee and oversight accountability.

The thing that I think most Americans want to see is not just the uncovering of the truth. But actually, consequences. If this were happening, are people going to jail for doing this?

I mean, we just heard from Jake Tapper's book again, just yesterday or day before.

That, you know, there was -- they were calling themselves the Politburo. That there were a few of them. Three or four of them.

That were just saying, we're running it now.

And if he's reelected. We'll still run it.

That's not Constitutional.

JAMES: It's not constitutional. If I or a member of Congress or the chairman of the oversight committee could put people in jail, I would have put some of the Biden administration in jail.

We investigate, and then we turn over the results of our investigation to the attorney general.
So that question should be asked of Pam Bondi.

We certainly hope she holds people accountable. We're still optimistic, that she will hold people accountable, from investigations of the Biden influence peddling.

Because, you know, Jim Jordan and I have led three or four investigations, where we believe that people should be held accountable for things that were done in the last administration.

So again -- if I could put people in jail, I would -- I would -- the Democrats, when they were in charge of Congress, if Adam Schiff would have put people in jail, he would have put Jim Jordan and John Perry and Donald Trump in jail.

GLENN: Right. I want the system to work the way it should. I'm glad -- I'm glad it goes through the DOJ. But the DOJ, if there are actual crimes committed, I can't think of a higher crime than usurping the power of the President of the United States, and hiding the fact that he's not actually making the decisions or running the country.

That is, in my -- in my view, that is a very high crime.

JAMES: And it's the biggest scandal in the history of America.

If you have three or four bureaucrats, like what Tapper -- that were never elected.

I had never heard of them.

And I'm pretty involved in things in Washington.

GLENN: Right. Right. Me too.

JAMES: And they're running the country!

I mean, that is a bad deal!

GLENN: Congressman, thank you so much.

Thanks for spending some time with us. And explaining what's going on with Congress. Best of luck to you. When do you expect an answer? They have to have an answer tomorrow, before you subpoena them.

JAMES: By tomorrow.

If they don't, they know the next -- the next step subpoena. We have been very clear about that. So that's the process. So we're starting with them. We'll see where the trail leads.

I believe everything that Jake Tapper has alleged in his book.

We're running the country, as well as some others. That many on the conservative media, suspect we're running the country.

I fully expect to hear from -- from them all, over the next few weeks, hopefully.

GLENN: Good. Thank you very much. Congressman Comer from Kentucky.

EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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