RADIOMay 07, 2024

SECOND Epstein Black Book For Sale?! Will Glenn BUY IT?

A second "Black Book" belonging to Jeffrey Epstein is up for auction and Glenn is considering buying it. The book has reportedly been verified as Epstein's and contains the names and information of many famous people he either met or did business with. Glenn, who is preserving artifacts that show both the good and bad sides of history, explains why he has debated entering the bidding pool. And one thing could make this artifact even more disturbing than it already is: "Will we ever find out if Epstein was an operative for our government or other governments?"

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So I am -- you know, I collect American people history. And I collect it to preserve it.

And I want to tell the whole story of American history. The good and the bad. Probably the best example is, we have a lot of stuff from Patton. And he was an amazing guy. But we also have one letter from Patton. Where he is a monster. And I mean a monster.

No better than the Nazis. And, you know, we all have these conflicts in us. Some bigger than other. And we wanted to make sure we showed both sides of Patton.

That we don't make anybody into a hero.

Without showing this is the heroic stuff they did.

And this is the questionable or really bad stuff they did.

Jeffrey Epstein's black book is up for auction. Now, this is not the book that he had when he died. This is a book from around the year 2000, that he lost. Somebody had it. They found it in the street of New York. It's been verified that it is his handwriting, and it is his book.

They picked it up, and then just put it in a box and left it in a storage, you know, unit. And ever since this Epstein thing has been going on. They're like, I have to find that book. I have to find that book. Where did I put that book?

They went through their storage unit and found it. Then they brought it to Alexander Historical Auctions, which is a really good auction house.

And they -- they put it up, with unredacted names and numbers. You can't see it. You can go and, you know, visit the book, if you're interested in buying it. And look through it.

You can't take pictures of it or anything else.

But the black book is for sale. They're saying, it will go between 100 and $200,000.

Now, my question is: Is this -- is this just a passing big -- but still a passing blip.

Like I'm not really interested in the Lindbergh trial. Who cares, you know what I mean?

STU: Right.

GLENN: It was a big thing at the time.

Is this a big thing just at the time, and what would change that I think is, was he or will we ever find out, he was an operative for our government or other governments?

PAT: Hmm. I don't know. That's kind of the rumor right now, right?

CIA.

GLENN: Yeah. What is your thought on Epstein's book, having it. I mean, I would love to. I would love to have it, just to read the names on the air.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: You would have to believe, if there was George Soros. Like we already know about it.

GLENN: That page would be missing. Shockingly all the S's are missing. And the G's.

STU: Right. So I think that maybe there won't be a massive story in it. Though it's an incredible --

GLENN: Well, if we were really considering buying it. I would send somebody up to look through it. And tell me, is there anything in it worth -- you know, if it's like "Squeaky" Fromme. I don't really care.

STU: I would care. If "Squeaky" Fromme had done it, that would be crazy.

GLENN: Yeah. That would be nuts.

STU: That's an interesting -- is it just -- here's a guy who did some really terrible things. Like Jeffrey Dahmer merchandise. You're not buying that.

GLENN: Yeah, I'm not buying that. I'm not buying Michael Jackson stuff.

PAT: Would you buy O.J.'s stuff? Because that was pretty big.

STU: Yeah.

PAT: That wasn't just a flash in the pan. That was pretty big.

GLENN: If it's something pretty big. O.J. Simpson baseball card.

STU: Baseball card. Wow. That's incredible.

GLENN: Shut up. Football card.

STU: Because I think O.J. is on the level of Lindbergh. Historically. To us, right now, it obviously is a lot bigger, because it happened in the '90s. Fifty years.

GLENN: The only thing that would be worth than that, is somehow or another, finding a way to capture the -- the African-American response to O.J. Setting him free because he was -- he was finally able to beat the man.

STU: Right. And, by the way, the jurors from the trial have said that is what they did. This is not Glenn making things up.

GLENN: Right. So if you could capture that, because we're having the opposite right now.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: You know, people not looking at the facts of anything, because they want somebody to win. One way or another.

And so that is -- that is something to happen with yours. And so it would tell that story. But I don't know how I would capture that.

STU: Remember, the Epstein thing is tied into powerful people.

Prince Andrew. There's certainly. I don't know if he's in that book, per se.

I will say, my instinct is, yes. He should have been on it. Largely because I think one of the things you do at the museum. And as part of your mission statement over there is to preserve history that will be erased.

And, man, the Epstein thing falls directly in that category. Like we know about it right now. Kind of. I don't think we know the whole story.

And the powers that be, will do everything they can, to make sure that goes down some memory hole, that we don't remember it. Like the Lindbergh case. Right?

They want that to go away. So actually preserving some of that history. I think is -- is a good use of -- of resources.

Of course, if there's nothing interesting in it, I suppose, maybe that's not the case.

But, man, I don't know. It seems like we still don't know the story on that one.

PAT: But won't they let you see the whole thing before you buy it?

GLENN: Yes. You can go up right now, and make an appointment.

And you can go up -- I was thinking about sending Jason up there, and you can go up, and make an appointment. And seeing it. See it.

See what's in it.

You can't take a photograph of it.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And, you know, no copies of it. But you can come back and then he could tell me, this is what's in it. These are the kinds of the names that are in it. That he could remember.

PAT: Uh-huh.

STU: And you need someone with a photographic memory.

GLENN: I know. Do we have a listener with a photographic memory? That would be great.

STU: I will say, it seems like they're showing it to people. And we don't have any leakages on the actual story.

GLENN: Well, they just announce it had yesterday, I think.

STU: Okay. At some point, you think the story would leak out. If there was something amazing in it.

GLENN: Not necessarily. Because if you were qualified to go see it.

You're a buyer. And if there's -- you don't want anybody to know.

STU: Until after you have it. Right? That's good.

GLENN: They leaked from over a few lines, to ten or 15 lines, or more, each. Each of the entries have several more names included, additionally 94 names bear black hand applied checkmarks. Five have been highlighted in yellow. All five names, including that of President Donald Trump, interesting that that one is out. Are well-recognized financial and industrial figures. The significance of the checked and highlighted names is unknown. The details included in the vast majority of the entries are -- are most extensive.

Epstein not only includes the name, address, and telephone number of his contact, but in most cases, also adds other residential addresses and numbers, contact information of family member, secretaries, media employees, associates, cell phone numbers.

And at least one instance, contacts girlfriend's number. There is a good deal of information hinting at Epstein's sordid past, including the very first entry, contact information for the front desk, and five apartment numbers, corresponding with telephone numbers at 301 East 66 Street.

This address was home for many young models, girlfriends, pilots, and lawyers, associated with Jeffrey Epstein.

Book contains entries for former Ford models, CEO Kate Ford, as well as an entry for masseuse, which lists 24 women's names and numbers, with pager numbers as well.

The history of this criminal relic is fascinating in the mid-1990s. Musician living in Manhattan discovered the book lying on Fifth Avenue's sidewalk in midtown. She eventually put it in storage. It was not until 2020, while cleaning out her storage unit, that she realized it belonged to Jeffrey Epstein. She reached out to several media outlets, not this one, who failed to react. Assuming that the book was a copy, she listed it on e Bay, where it was purchased by a graduate -- how is this possible?

PAT: Who is it purchased by?

GLENN: A graduate student in the northeast who has possessed it ever since.

PAT: For how much? Do we know for how much?

GLENN: No. Don't know.

2004, Epstein's black book was discovered by the FBI and used in legal proceedings. But this copy which came to light after Epstein's death was not considered as evidentiary importance at the time of its discovery. According to Business Insider. The 1731 names contained in the two volumes together, do not appear in the 2004 book. During its six-month investigation, Business Insider journalist had respected forensic document examiners examine the book to determine its authenticity. After a researcher looked at the binding and the data within, the examiners determined, there are indications or evidences suggest that the Q1 address book predated the online version of the address book and was in existence in the late 1990s. A copy of that was available.

PAT: So there's 1700 names?

GLENN: Names.

PAT: But we don't know why they're named?

GLENN: Nope.

PAT: That's interesting.

GLENN: What they released. And it's interesting again.

They released Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz. As names on this.

PAT: Oh, my gosh. Of course. Of course.

GLENN: Of course. Of course. Donald Trump. Alan Dershowitz. Frédéric Fekkai.

Do you know who that is?

PAT: No.

GLENN: Christie Hefner. And Edward Kennedy.

PAT: Huh.

STU: Frédéric Fekkai, French hair stylist and entrepreneur.

GLENN: Of course. Well, who doesn't -- a French hairstylist in their black book.

STU: Makes a bunch of products though. Seems like a big -- has a big company. Making stuff, it appears.

GLENN: What is your first stop, yes or no?

PAT: Wow. I should say yes.

GLENN: Should we look at it.

PAT: Yeah. I would look at it. And then depending on the names.

GLENN: What is its significance in history, long-term.

PAT: What dirtbags we had in office, I guess. I'm sure you're going to find out some things about people, right?

Although, it doesn't say why they're in the book.

GLENN: No.

STU: We know the Alan Dershowitz thing. We already know, the person who accused him said, maybe it wasn't him.

GLENN: He was in there, because he was the attorney.

STU: So not necessarily going to happen. You don't know if it's going to be some major story that will change history.

GLENN: I'm sorry. We do also know that Donald Trump threw him out. Right? Of Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Yeah. They had a falling out, long time ago.

GLENN: Big time. Because I guess he was trying to recruit some of the females. And Donald Trump said, get out. Don't come back.

STU: The Trump thing is -- I think that's a complete disconnect from the Epstein story, long, long ago.

PAT: Otherwise, they would have made political hay out of that a long time.

STU: The Clinton one is much more significant.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And I think the Bill Gates one too. Some of his comments have been really weird about that.

PAT: Really weird. So are his wife's.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I think Bill Gates has flown under the radar as just a weird, quirky guy for so long. I think he may end up being one of the true villains of our time.

PAT: I think it's quite possible.

GLENN: Uh-huh. The things he wants to do on population role.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: His connections there. His divorce from his wife who was like, get away from Jeffrey Epstein, we know who he is.

And he wouldn't get away from Jeffrey Epstein. And they divorced. That's kind of a big deal. Kind of a big deal.

STU: Yeah. When he's occasionally been pressed on that, it's not gone well for Gates. I mean, we don't know what happened there, but something weird went on.

PAT: Very. And he stole all the technology from Zerox in the first place anyway. So...

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

Are Epstein's "Blackmail Videos" Being Used for Leverage RIGHT NOW?

What was Jeffrey Epstein's operation all about. If he was at the center of a massive blackmail operation to compromise those in positions of power, who is in possession of that information now? Glenn Beck and ATF Whistleblower John Dodson analyze the details of this situation and give their thoughts on what is the most likely reality surrounding Epstein.

Watch Glenn Beck's FULL Interview with ATF Whistleblower John Dodson HERE

WARNING: How America Elects a Socialist President in 2028 | Glenn TV | Ep 444

The rise of Zohran Mamdani, the 33-year-old socialist who just won the Democratic primary for mayor, is not just a political earthquake shaking New York City — it’s a warning for the rest of America. Backed by Bernie Sanders, AOC, and the Democratic Socialists of America, Mamdani promises free everything, to tax the rich, and to dismantle capitalism. There’s nothing new about this tired strategy, but the media is propping him up as a new political genius. And with Democrat leaders lining up behind him, it’s clear: This radicalism isn’t fringe anymore. It’s the Democratic Party’s future. Mamdani’s rise is part of a larger movement that’s rewriting America’s values. Glenn Beck explains how New York is the prototype for the Left’s socialist makeover of America. Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Standford, gives a terrifying prediction on Mamdani’s mayoral race chances and warns the revolution is coming for mainstream Democrats. He also dives into MAGA’s frustration with the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein files.

Salena Zito reveals WHY Trump said “Fight! Fight! Fight!”

“I have a new purpose,” then-candidate Donald Trump told reporter Salena Zito after surviving the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Salena joins Glenn Beck to reveal what Trump told her about God, his purpose in life, and why he really said, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”, as she details in her new book, “Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland”.

Transcript

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GLENN: Salena, congratulations on your book. It is so good.

Just started reading it. Or listening to it, last night.

And I wish you would have -- I wish you would have read it. But, you know, the lady you have reading it is really good.

I just enjoy the way you tell stories.

The writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are. That I think I've ever read, from anybody.

It's really good.

And the description of your experience there at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.

SALENA: Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was thinking about this, as I was ready to come on. You and I have been along for this ride forever. For what?

Since 2006? 2005?

Like 20 years, right?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

SALENA: And I've been chronicling the American people for probably ten more years, before that. And it's really remarkable to me, as watching how this coalition has grown. Right?

And watching how people have the -- have become more aspirational.

And that's -- and that is what the conservative populist coalition is, right?

It is the aspirations of many, but the celebration of the individual.

And chronicling them, yeah. Has been -- has been, a great honor.

GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday, when -- when Elon Musk said he was starting another party.

And somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the Tea Party tried to do?

No. The Tea Party was not going to start a new party.

It was to -- you know, it was to coerce and convince the Republican Party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. It didn't accomplish what we hoped.

But it did accomplish a lot of things.

Donald Trump is a result of the Tea Party.

I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were -- right?

Were with Donald Trump, are the people that were with the Tea Party.

SALENA: That's absolutely right.

So that was the inception.

So American politics has always had movements, that have been just outside of a party. Or within a party.

That galvanize and broaden the coalition. Right? They don't take away. Or walk away, and become another party.

If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost a Republican Party.

Because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the Tea Party didn't go away. It strengthened and broadened the Republican Party. Because these weren't just Republicans that became part of this party.

It was independents. It was Democrats.

And just unhappy with the establishment Republicans. And unhappy with Democrats.

And that -- that movement is what we -- what I see today.

What I see every day. What I saw that day, in butler, when I showed I happen at that rally.

As I do, so many rallies, you know, throughout my career. And that one was riveting and changed everything.

GLENN: You made a great case in the opening chapter. You talk about how things were going for Donald Trump.

And how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump.

Changed the trajectory, changed the mood.

I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train, until this.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Moment. What do I -- what changed? How -- how did that work?

And -- and I contend, that we would have much more profound change, had the media actually done their job and reported this the way it really was. Pragmatism

SALENA: You know, and people will find this in the book. I'm laying on the ground with an agent on top of me.

I'm 4 feet away from the president.

And there's -- there's notices coming up on my phone. Saying, he was hit by broken glass.

And to this take, that remains part of this sibling culture, in American politics.

Because reporters were -- were so anxious to -- to right what they believed happened.

As opposed to what happened.

And it's been a continual frustration of mine, as a reporter, who is on the ground, all the time.

And I'll tell you, what changed in that moment.

And I say a nuance, and I believe nuance is dead in American journalism.

But it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation, that I had with President Trump, the next day. He called me the next morning.

But it's a powerful conversation I had with him, just two weeks ago.

When he made this decision to say, fight, fight, fight.

People have put in their heads, why they think he said it. But he told me why he said that. And he said, Salena, in that moment, I was not Donald Trump the man. I was a former president. I was quite possibly going to be president again.

And I had an obligation to the country, and to the office that I have served in, to project strength. To project resolve.

To project that we will not be defeated.

And it's sort of like a symbolic eagle, that is always -- you know, that symbol that we look at, when we think about our country.

He said, that's why I said that. I didn't want the people behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching, panicking.

I had to show strength. And it's that nuance -- that I think people really picked up on.

And galvanized people.

GLENN: So he told me, when he was laying down on the stage.

And you can hear him. Let me get up. Let me get up.

I've got to get up.

He told me, as I was laying on the stage. I asked him, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Salena, I don't know about you.

But with me. It would be like, how do I get off the stage? My first was survival.

He said, what was going on through his mind was, you're not pathetic. This is pathetic.

You're not afraid. Get up.

Get up.

And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight, of that by the time that he's standing up, he's thinking, I'm a symbol? Or do you think he was thinking, I'm a symbol, this looks pathetic. It makes you look weak.

Stand up. How do you think that actually happened?

SALENA: He thinks, and we just talked about this weeks ago. He -- you know, and this is something that he's really thought about.

Right? You know, he's gone over and over and over. And also, purpose and God. Right? These are things that have lingered with him.

You know, he -- he thought, yes.

He did think, it was pathetic that he was on the ground. But he wasn't thinking about, I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic.

He's thinking, my country is symbolically on the ground. I need to get up, and I need to show that my country is strong.

That our country is resolute.

And I need people to see that.

We can't go on looking like pathetic.

Right?

And I think that then goes to that image of Biden.

GLENN: You have been with so many presidents.

How many presidents do you think that you've personally been with, would have thought that and reacted that way?

SALENA: Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have. Reagan probably would have thought that.

And if you remember how he was out like standing outside.

You know, waving out the window. Right?

After he was shot.

GLENN: At the hospital, right.

SALENA: Had he not been knocked out, unconscious, you know, he probably would have done the same thing.

Because he was someone who deeply believed in American exceptionalism.

And American exceptionalism does not go lay on the ground.

GLENN: And the symbol.

Right. The symbol of the presidency.

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that affects him today.

GLENN: So let me go back to God.

Because you talked to him the next day. And your book Butler.

He calls you up.

I love the fact that your parents would be ashamed of you. On what you said to him.

The language you used. That you just have to read the book.

It's just a great part.

But he calls you the next morning. And wants to know if you're okay.

And you -- you then start talking to him, about God.

And I was -- I was thinking about this, as I was listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't -- I wasn't a Christian.

Even though, he was.

I wasn't a Christian, when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.

I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

Is -- is -- I mean, I believe Donald Trump always believes in God, et cetera, et cetera.

Do you think there was a real profound change at Butler with him?

SALENA: Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day. Seven times, the take after seven.

GLENN: Crazy.

SALENA: Talked about. And I think he was looking for someone that he knew, that was there. And to try to sort it out.

Right? And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him.

At all. I believed that he was having -- you know, he was struggling. And he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose was to listen.

Right? I know other reporters would have handled it differently. And that's okay. That's not the kind of reporter that I am.

And I myself was having my own like, why didn't I die?

Right?

Because it went right over my head.

And -- and so I -- he had the conversation about God.

He's funny. I thought it was the biggest mosquito in the world that hit me.

But he had talked profoundly about purpose. You know, and God.

And how God was in that moment.

It --

GLENN: I love the way you -- in the book, I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own he head.

He was like, you know, I -- I -- I always knew that there was some sort of, you know -- that God was present.

He said, but now that this has happened.

I look back at all of the trials.

All of the tribulations. Literally, the trials.

All of the things that have happened. And he's like, I realized God was there the whole time.

SALENA: Yes. He does. And it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those conversations with him. Because I'm telling you. And y'all know, I can talk. I didn't say much of anything.

I just -- I just listened. I felt that was my purpose, in that moment.

To give him that space, to work it out.

I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God.

I'm Catholic. I followed my faith.

And -- and so, I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right?

And to -- to have that -- to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Salena. Why did I put a chart down?

I'm like, sir. I don't know. I thought you were Ross Perot for a second.

He never has a chart. And he laughed. And then he said, why did I put that chart down?

By that term, I never turned my head away from people at the rally. That's true.

That relationship is very transactional. It's very -- they feed off of each other.

It's a very emotive moment when you attend a rally. Because he has a way of talking at a rally. That you believe that you are seeing.

And he said, and I never turn my head away.

I never turn my head away.

Why did I turn my head away?

I don't remember consciously thinking about turning my head away. And then he says to me, that was God, wasn't it?

Yes, sir. It was. It was God.

And he said, that's -- that's why I have a new purpose.

And so, Glenn. I think it's important, when you look at the breadth of what has happened, since he was sworn in.

You see that purpose, every day.

He doesn't let up.

He continues going.

And it brings back to the beginning of the book.

Where you find out, that there was another president that was shot at in Butler.

And that was George Washington. And how different the country would have been, had he died in that moment.

And now think about how different the country would be, had President Trump died in that moment. There would be --

GLENN: We're talking to -- we're talking to Salena Zito. About her new book called Butler. The assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting.

And, you know, it is so good. I wish the press would read it. Because it really explains who we are, who Trump supporters are. Who are, you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She's the best at that.