RADIOMay 24, 2022

The 'TERRIFYING' way food shortages could end in WORLD WAR

Chaos continues to spread throughout the world, and America’s weakened economy seems less and less equipped everyday to handle it. And situations may worsen soon. Carol Roth, financial expert and author of ‘The War On Small Business,’ joins Glenn to discuss the ripple effects China’s recent COVID lockdowns AND Russia's war in Ukraine could have on the rest of the world’s food supply. ‘We have a 30 day window,’ Roth says, to turn things around. Otherwise we may see massive food shortages in certain areas of the world, then increased chaos, and possibly war….maybe even world war. In this clip, Roth and Glenn discuss the possible scenarios to come…

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GLENN: Carol Roth. She is the author of The War on Small Business, a former recovering investment banker, as she likes to say.

More and more experts are saying that the U.S. is headed towards a recession. I wanted to get her look at that today. Welcome, Carol.

CAROL: Hey, Glenn, how are you?

And I'm so bummed to hear that Stu spent his vacation, thinking about economic collapse. He's supposed to go to the spa, do some water-skiing.

(laughter)

GLENN: So, you know, in your book, The War on Small Business, you talk about all the things that, you know, the Draconian things that our government did to shut businesses down. Small businesses, et cetera. Also, they did all of this extra spending, and everything else.

And here we are, at the end. And they were trying to avoid a recession. And it looks like we'll get one anyway.

CAROL: This is the key point, Glenn. I'm so glad you brought it up. Because not enough people are speaking about this. This was all for nothing. We were told, we're going to support the market by printing trillions. We're going to throw trillions, into relief. We're going to make all of these decisions. And it's going to help the economy. Well, where are we?

We saw a historic transfer of wealth, from Main Street to Wall Street. Now we're seeing Wall Street giving those gains back. We have huge amounts of inflation. The consumer is hurting. And at the end of the day, we will have an economy, that if it doesn't hit recession, certainly is limping along. So they did all of these things for the outcome, they were ultimately, going to have to go through anyway. It was all for naught.

GLENN: So, Carol, I don't think people understand what is coming yet. And I don't know if you can explain it. This is just my -- just common sense here. Looking -- China is so backed up. What we went through, when we closed our ports. And stopped shipping things.

That was -- that was nursery school, it seems, compared to what we will be seeing, on the horizon. When does this shutdown of any boats, going to and from China, when does that hit us?

CAROL: Well, I certainly think that it has hit us already. And, you know, it will continue to bleed into the numbers.

I think the big question with China, is what's next for China. And what's next for the world. And that's sort of the -- the outside case sonar. There's a really bad case here, that I hopefully, wouldn't want to start with. Sort of the possibility, versus the probability of some sort of a war scenario.

GLENN: Wait. Wait, wait. Why do you say that?

CAROL: Well, if you look at the unrest that's been going on. I certainly don't think that that was just coming out of nowhere. I think the chaos is intentional. I think food insecurity and the starvation of hundreds of millions of people, are going to end up leading to unrest. And we have about a 30-day window. It may or may not know, that the farmers in Ukraine, have been planting and trying to get this wheat crop. Yes. To be able to come to market. The problem is that the Baltic Sea, which is where all the cargo containers are shipped out of. Is completely surrounded by the Russian Navy.

So that has been to come out by about the middle of June. And if we don't, that will send out a domino effect, through all different kinds of countries. You're already seeing a little bit of that like in Sri Lanka. But you will see Kenya. You will see Lebanon. You will see Chad. You will see Nigeria. You will see Cameroon. You will see all these places, with huge populations in many cases, not be able to see their population. We know that that is going to lead to unrest. Many of them, actually, have a lot of weapons.

So what does that mean? They're likely to do. They'll probably try and infringe on somebody else's food supply. And it will just end up in this spiral. Or if we have one of the folks in NATO, try to get involved in this Baltic Sea situation. And Russia doesn't go for that. That could happen. There are so many different moving parts.

And story in the Wall Street Journal over the weekend, is that China is telling members of the Communist Party, to pull everything they have, investments, real estate, from foreign places around the world. Why, Glenn, would China be shoring up the Communist Party, not having exposure to assets around the world? Well, you can connect those dots, right?

GLENN: Gosh, Carol, that is -- that is terrifying. Terrifying. And that -- does that mean here in the United States, all of the land and everything that they own here. They're telling their people, even here, pull it out?

CAROL: This is -- what I read in the journal. There's a piece I will send it to you, because I'm sure you will want to take a deep dive into it. But it sounds like, because of the sanctions that happened with the freezing of not only Russia's reserves, but the confiscation of all of the oligarch's assets. That they're now warning everybody. It doesn't mean that these folks are actually going to comply and do it. And they don't have relatives and Shell companies and what not. That just sends a signal to me. Why would they not want that exposure, unless they were planning to be aggressive and worried, that we might put some kind of sanctions on them. And why would we put some sanction on his China. The whole situational is just -- there's this outlier, you know, within some period of time, that's a bad scenario.

GLENN: So the news that I saw this weekend, is the State Department. Now, the Pentagon is denying it. But the State Department is out of control. The State Department said, there are plans for the U.S. to sink the Russian, Baltic fleet. I mean, that is absolutely an act of war if we're even just helping them target these things. But that seems more probable, if we are looking at the world starving to death.

CAROL: Yeah. It may be trading one level of war for another level of war. And I'm certainly no foreign policy expert. So I'm saying this just as a person reading the news, not with anybody that has any special insight. But that may be what they're thinking. They need to clear that path. They need to get that food out, because the scope of war, that they might have with Russia and all the folks who are aligned against Russia, in trying to starve people, versus the scope that follows these countries around the world, are based in starvation. That may be the tradeoff. Hopefully, they have a month. Some sort of diplomacy here, would go a long way. And I remember when we had a president, that was really good at that. We didn't have these kinds of issues.

GLENN: I will tell you, I've talked to a friend in some place in Africa. And he said, we are not being trained for war in Ukraine.

We are being trained to protect the governments in Africa. Because they're going to -- they're all going to come down. That kind of chaos -- first of all, that's not what our military should be doing. But this kind of chaos, what will that do to us?

CAROL: Yeah, unfortunately, that's the kind of scenario, because of the proximity. Not for us, but for our allies to the centers of all these things happening. It seems, when we have these really big wars, all the roads lead back to Europe. And Europe is in already a bad situation. So it seems like that may be the convergence of where that is. And we get dragged in potentially that way. And we all know that war is not a good thing for our national debt. For our community. For our economy. There's no good comes out of it. But it certainly seems like, that the powers that be that want to create chaos and support some sort of dislocation in the world. That they're doing a really good job of sussing that out right now.

GLENN: So I said on the air, last week, I'm not -- I would just like to have in the next five years, I would just like to have the money that I -- that I currently have. I don't need to make, you know -- I mean, I would love to make for my retirement, you know, investment that -- that grows.

But I'm so afraid. And I've heard this from so many people. They have no idea, if you leave it in the bank, you lose. If you leave it in the stock market, you're going to lose. At least in the short-term. If I'm 20, or 30, you know, I leave it in the stock market. But if you're my age, going on 60, you're not leaving it in the stock market.

But where do you put it?

CAROL: You know, this is a conversation that is being had. You know, with everybody. Even people at the top most echelons of society, that have all kinds of cash, and will really be in a fine place. Don't have the perfect idea, where to put it, because of all those risks. And certainly, again, this is not financial advice. But there are, you know, some things that you can be at least researching and thinking about.

One thing I wrote about on TheBlaze site a couple weeks ago, in response to a question, Glenn. Was something that is a savings bond called I Bonds. I don't know if you've heard of these. But this is a government series savings bonds, that sort of combines a face value and an inflation-adjusted parameter to it. And it adjusts every six months. But right now, it's at 9.62 percent, and that will adjust based on inflation. Now, the rub is, if you go online, and I believe it's TreasuryDirect.gov. You have to open an account with the Treasury if you want to do it online. The cap is $10,000, per Social Security number per year.

And then if you do the electronic -- the paper piece, which you can do through the IRS. It's S a 5,000-dollar cap. That at least -- if you have a few years. Because you get a penalty. And it gets after -- you have to keep it in for at least three years. And it does readjust. But if you want to have at least some inflation protection, you find look into something like that, certainly as a hedge to your portfolio. As we've talked about many times. Having, you know, precious metals. Having gold and silver as a hedge. Particularly for that downside scenario. I think is really important. If you have the opportunity to invest in property and land. Some land has tax benefits. I talked to a tax attorney. That's an opportunity.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I think most people are starting to now say, how am I -- Carol, let me take a quick break. Let me come back, and ask you: What does it mean to our economy? If we hit 6-dollar -- which I think we will, this summer. Six-dollar a gallon gasoline. If we hit nine, $10 a gallon of diesel, what does that that do? We'll be back in just a second.

GLENN: We're talking to Carol Roth. Carol, if we have 6-dollar a gallon gasoline for three months, I don't know how the average person makes it.

CAROL: Yeah. It's a really tough scenario. And it's tough on an individual level. And it's tough on the entire economy, which has a spiraling impact. Because we have a 70 percent consumer-based economy.

They are assuming, the fact that we're going to avoid a recession, on the back of the consumer. Which means that your savings are going to go down. Your debt is going to go up. And so they save the economy, by putting the consumer in a bad position.

GLENN: All of --

STU: Yeah.

CAROL: And that's just completely not okay.

Yeah --

STU: I want you to explain that. Say that again. Because I think people really need to understand. The idea of not going into a recession, the fed is intentionally, impoverishing the average American.

That's their -- that's their plan.

CAROL: Yeah. Yes. It's on the back of you. They're looking to the average American consumer, to save them from what they have done. Either way, it's a bad outcome for the consumer.

But if you save them, it's because you have wound down your savings. It's because you've increased your credit card, and other debts. In order to continue to spend, so they can say, look, we were able to save the economy. So it's on your back. We are the ones that are carrying them. And they are not being held accountable, for all of this damage, and all of this destruction, that they have done, with what was entirely intentional, and entirely unavoidable.

GLENN: So I learned this during the collapse of '08. That the West is not mathematically built to -- to tolerate 100 to $120 a barrel for oil, for very long. The whole thing, just all the math just starts to fall apart.

I don't know what we're paying per barrel. But I know what gas is costing. And when -- when rich people are saying, holy cow. The average person is counting their pennies and their nickels and their dollars. And deciding, where to go.

How long does this last before your -- you're spending all your money, just on food and gas?

CAROL: Yeah. I think this is the question of the haves. And have-nots. And we've talked a little about this before. Is that the economists. And the books at the bank, when they talk about the consumer, you know, that's a composite. That's an average that is brought up by the very wealthy that are doing very well. But for, you know, the average American, they're not going to be doing well. And we've already started to see this in the numbers from places like Target and Walmart. In the last quarter. We're sitting on this quarter right now. This is last quarter. People are starting to make these tradeoffs. The things they absolutely need to have. Versus the things that they would like to have. And I think unfortunately, for many Americans, that's going to be the scenario for quite some time. You know, definitely this year. Probably into next year. And depending on what happens on a geopolitical front. Maybe even longer, is that you'll be focused on the necessities. The things that you need to get by. And the rest of that, will go by the wayside.

The only -- the skinniest kid at fat camp, bright spot here, Glenn.

GLENN: The dollar --

CAROL: Well -- in a recession, Glenn, that actually works against us.

GLENN: Okay. Oh, yeah. True.

CAROL: But of all the things that we have, where there's a supply and demand imbalance, at least in food, we may not have choices here. But at least there will be something to eat. That supply/demand imbalance around the world. Again, as we talked about before, means there will be other people, who are facing the same kind of issues. And they're not going to be able to eat.

GLENN: And that includes everybody south of our border. And with an open border, it could get very ugly, very fast.

Carol, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

I think the thing that, really, we all need to take away is the next ten weeks, is crucial.

Do -- does Ukraine -- do the farmers get all of that food out into the Baltic Sea, without Russia obstructing it, or us going to war? If they don't, there is going to be massive starvation in Africa, and all kinds of chaos. So the next ten weeks, pray for the Baltic to open up. So we can get that food, to Africa or wherever it needs, in peace.

Carol Roth, thank you so much. We'll talk again.

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Is America’s bankruptcy INEVITABLE?

The United States is facing possibly the largest debt crisis in our history as our national debt rises faster and faster. Glenn Beck warns: is our bankruptcy inevitable? Plus, Glenn and Stu discuss the recent protest during an ICE raid on a farm in California.

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GLENN: Now, here's another thing. And I will hit this once.

Because it's a little -- it's a little overwhelming.

But I just think you should know it.

Since the dead ceiling was raised on July 3rd. July 3rd.

The US debt is up $410 billion.

Just in the first two days.

Let me say that again.

We raised the debt ceiling. And the US debt goes up 410 billion, almost half of a trillion dollars in two days!

Now, this comes after the US Treasury ended extraordinary measures, raising the debt ceiling by 5 trillion.

We are in the midst of the US' largest crisis.

Largest one ever. Now, listen to this.

After hitting the debt limit of $36.1 trillion in January of 2025, Treasury began extraordinary measures to conserve cash. Last week, when Trump's big, beautiful bill was signed into law. The debt ceiling from 36.1 to $41.1 trillion. And what happened?

In two days, up 410 billion. Raised due to a technical process.

Now, Stu, I don't want to get all technical here. But I think that -- that the debt ceiling going up, and then us spending an additional $410 billion. I think that technical process. And, again, if I'm too wonky, maybe you can explain it, is out of control politicians that are just spending too much.

But maybe that's just me. Is that too technical. Is that too wonky, to get to?

STU: Yeah. You're in nerd world with that one, Glenn. People aren't going to understand it.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

So they were just -- they were just doing what you do, when you don't have the money. They were just moving bills around. And paying what they absolutely had to. Until the debt ceiling was raised.

And then when they did, they were like woo. Because we were completely out of money.

Now we can print some more. Now we're free to borrow a record 41.1 trillion dollars in debt.

Now, here's the part that kind of opens your eyes. To put this into perspective, at the start of 2020, the US had $23.2 trillion in at the time. In 2020, $23.2 trillion.

Where are we now?

Well, we just moved that debt ceiling up to 41 trillion, because we're at $36.1 trillion.

With the new limit, we will mark $17.9 trillion increase, since 2020. That's a 77 percent increase in our debt. Have you thought of it this way?

At our current pace, we will reach the new debt ceiling much sooner than expected.

The treasury posted a 316 billion-dollar deficit in May. That's the third largest in record.

For the first eight months of 2025, the budget gap hit $1.3 trillion. The third largest in history.

Over the last 12 months. The US borrowed 1.9 trillion.

Or 158 billion, every month.

That is half -- this is half of the May levels.

But let's take 158 billion to be conserve.

US current debt stands at 36.6.

We are 4.5 trillion below the limit now.

At our current pace, it will take us 28 months, to hit that limit.

STU: Jeez.

GLENN: In fact, the debt ceiling crisis. It looks like it will hit us now, every two years. The debt ceiling is hit faster than it can be moved. From June 2023 and October 2021, we're the last debt ceiling crisis. The US budget deficit has averaged 9 percent of GDP over the last five years.

But over the last 12 months, the budget gap has hit 7 percent of GDP. That is higher than during 2001, or any of the 1980 recessions.

We now spend 7.1 trillion dollars, 24 percent of our GDP. We have a spending problem.
That's our problem. We are issuing so much debt now, bond prices are falling. And yields are rising. What does that mean? It means, we're charging less, and we're paying out more in interest. That's not going to help us!

The US spent a record of $1.2 trillion on interest expense alone.

That's more than the total spending on defense. Medicaid, and the veterans program.

At our current pace, we're set to see US cost exceed $2 trillion within a matter of years!

Over the next ten years, the US is projected to pay $13.8 trillion just in interest.

For interest alone. This is not taxpayers. This is per person in the United States.

For interest alone, we are now on the hook for $40,500 per person, just for the interest!

This is four times Social Security cash deficit in the next ten years.

Five times the cost of 403 US weather and climate disasters. Since 1980.

403, weather and climate disasters.

It's the cost of 403 of those! Sorry.

It's the -- it's five times the cost of those, since 1980! I just wanted to -- I mean, just want to start there. Wake up to your situation.

People are arguing about all of the wrong things right now, and they are -- we think we are skating. And we think that this can last forever. It's not going to last forever, and then you add things on top of this.

Like, what is happening with -- with ICE?

I don't know if you saw the video of the protesters. Some protester that was firing some sort of a weapon, at a federal agent during the ICE raid at a farm in California. Let me play this. Cut two, please. This is the raid --

VOICE: Take a look at this video right here. It appears a protestor fired some kind of gun at federal agents. This happened this afternoon.

It was a really chaotic scene at the time.
A lot of smoking was being launched at the protesters. Again, it appears that a protestor fired back with that weapon.

It looks like he fired at least a couple of times. We've not heard about any agents being hurt.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: So we are entering a very violent. Very, very violent time. First of all, let me talk about this particular raid. This was at a legal pot farm!

Okay. I think we can probably in the past, just done an hour on that. You know, oh, it's a legal pot farm.

Okay. Forget about that. That's not a problem apparently anymore.

It's being tended, this legal pot farm is being tended by illegals. That are coming across the border.

Well, we don't want to hurt our farming community.

I don't think of our farming community, as pot farms. But maybe that's just me.

Again, why get -- why get down in those details?

STU: Yeah. Glenn, this is just an existential question here.

But is it a legal pot farm, if the workers are illegal?

GLENN: Stu. Stu, again, that would be hour two of any past show that we have ever done together.

STU: Okay. All right.

GLENN: All right. So they go in, and they're trying to bust the illegals.

All right. What happens? Well, there starts to be protests. These protests come.

They start firing at ICE.

ICE has to put tear gas down.

Now the illegals are running to save themselves.

But who is running amongst this crowd?

Apparently, a bunch of children.

Now, I suppose those legal pot farms are providing a good education for those kids.

You know, probably has a pot farm day care center for those kids. So they can be out of the fields. And of course not working for their parents. Because that would be underage labor. You wouldn't want that to happen in America.

You know, all these people that have these bleeding hearts. Like, oh, this is just so wrong.

You're not even thinking anymore.

You're not even thinking.

You just see a video where you have kids running with their parents. Children running from the fields of this pot farm.

What were they doing there?

Certainly, that wasn't underage labor, was that?

Because you would be against that.

Wouldn't you?

Or are you?

Or are you only against that, if it's white children?

I'm not sure. I'm confused.

So you have the underage children. And these bleeding hearts, who are saying, we have to let these people go.

We have to let them just do what they do!

Really? You mean work in the shadows?

You mean engage in possible child labor? Okay. Possibly making, what?

A dollar an hour. Yeah. No, no, no. That's really, really, really good.

Then let's just let these protesters, and they're not protesters.

They are terrorists now.

We just let these terrorists get away with firing guns at our -- at our ICE agents. Things are changing in America. Let's just look at the violence, just in the last couple of weeks.

You have the July 4th ICE ambush, which is what?

ICE 25 miles outside of the city of Dallas. They have a detention center.

A coordinated well-planned attack.

Guy is covered in black. You know, in -- in military gear. They come and they start shooting fireworks at the detention center. Then a few of them break off, and they start spray painting the cars. Which brings unarmed ICE agents out of the building, to try to stop them from defacing the -- the cars.

They're unarmed. Well, this group has snipers in the woods. Hiding in the woods.

As soon as those unarmed agents come out, they start shooting them. Shot one of them in the neck. Thank God, he's still alive. What do you call that?

What do you call that? A Revolutionary War. Terrorism. It's certainly not a peaceful protest. Neither was it yesterday.

And, meanwhile, we have Congressmen who are actually trying to pass a bill in Congress right now, saying that the ICE members can't wear masks.

Well, you know what, when your bad guys stop wearing masks. When your people who are on the -- on the college campuses stop wearing masks, maybe we can live in a community and live in a society where our police officers don't have to wear masks.

Don't give me this. That's gets appear zero stuff.

By the way, the gestapo never wore masks.

They didn't care.

This is the kind of stuff that you see in the third world countries.

You mean like riots on the streets?

Yeah. It's stuff you see in third world countries. And you're dragging us into a third world country.

And, you know what, it's just -- it's -- it's time!

It's time. It's just time to say, enough is enough. And I'm not saying take extraordinary measures.

I'm saying, can our US government, our FBI, our department of justice stop acting like every Bond villain I've ever seen.

And here's what I mean by that. It's like you take these guys off the street, and then you strap them on to a table. And you say, the laser is going to cut your head in half.

No. It's not going to. We all know it's not going to.

Can we stop acting like Bond villains? Can we actually take care of the problem?

Actually arrest these people. Try them. And put them in jail.

We need to start setting a few examples. Otherwise, this is going to ton spiral out of control.

Obama's CIA chief behind Steele dossier deception – exposed!

The FBI has opened a criminal investigation against former CIA Director John Brennan. But will Americans finally see justice for his alleged crimes and cover-ups? Or will the Deep State protect him? Former Department of Defense intelligence analyst Jason Buttrill joins Glenn Beck to give his prediction.

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GLENN: Let's bring in Jason Buttrill who is our chief researcher on the program.

You know, I'm reading a lot about John Brennan, and, you know, I think everybody knows he's a bad guy.

Well, everybody, but MSNBC and CNN.

They know he's a bad guy. But, you know, Jason, as I was starting to really refresh my memory. And look into Brennan, as we're -- it looks like maybe the Department of Justice is going to take him on.

And maybe prosecute him for some pretty bad perjury. I started looking into him, and I didn't realize. I had completely forgotten.

He was the guy who was the main guy that was pushing for torture, during the war.

I mean, he couldn't torture enough people.
And then he actually had a little group that would meet with the president, and they would develop the kill list. Do you remember, Stu?

Talking about the kill list, that Obama was doing? You know, every week. They developed a kill list. And everybody was like, what do you mean a kill list? Who is on the kill list?

It was John Brennan who was doing all of that stuff. He's a really, really dark dude. And, you know, hopefully we'll actually send him to jail for the things that he allegedly has done, besides, you know, develop the kill list. Jason, welcome to the program.

JASON: Hey, thanks, Glenn. I don't -- you know, it depends on -- I don't know. John Brennan has been one of the most slippery, I don't know how to describe him.

Whether it's like Bond villains. Or actually maybe it's more accurate to kill him like a Batman villain.

You remember like in Batman. You know if like the Joker is connected and remains in that comment or cartoon, or if it's the Penguin.

You know at the end of the comic, they're going to get away.

You will just see them in a slide. You know, all of a sudden in page where they slip away. They have to live again. You know, to the villain in another comic book.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

Yeah, I know.

And we are playing the role of a -- of a -- of a Bond villain as well, when it comes to justice.

Our DOJ is like, oh. And we have sharks that are going to eat you.

We have strapped you to this table. But they are going to start with your shoestrings. And then, we will leave. But before you know it, you will be dead in the belly of a shark. And they're not going to -- it's not going to kill them.

Just shoot them in the head. What are you doing?

Stop with the shark thing. That's what our DOJ is like. They just have these guys get away with murder.

JASON: Yeah. As you point out, with Brennan, it goes way, way back.

He was -- as you outlined. He was one of the guys that were right at the center of the enhanced interrogation, or torture controversy.

He -- he always said, hey, I was not in the enhanced interrogation techniques, air quoted, program.

But he was one of the guys, that was defending transferring some of the suspects, the country, where, you know, the rules are a lot less, you know, strict than they are here in the United States.

Where you can employ some of these.

Yeah. It goes beyond that.

He actually withdrew his name. You know, from being in the BCI director because of this.

But like any fat man villain or Bond villain, if he decides to run again, and he's confirmed by a massive amount. He just keeps on slipping through.

GLENN: Well, how does he get -- let me ask you: How do you think he gets this power?
Because he just keeps slipping through.

And, you know, if I remember right, it was Dianne Feinstein that -- that actually came at him, and said, you and the CIA are spying on the committee in -- in the Senate.

And they were investigating the torture, or enhanced interrogation. And he was knee-deep. Maybe neck-deep in that. And he said, we're not spying -- the CIA would never do that.

It's just unthinkable. Well, it turns out, yes. They were spying.

And then he never -- they never pushed for any kind of penalty on him.

He said, well, I'm going to find out, who did this.

And then they will pay.

Nobody paid. Nobody. Nothing. Does he have stuff on -- on members of the Senate and the House? Is that what -- is that what's happening here? How does he keep getting away with this?

Understanding John Brennan, in my opinion is understanding how the Deep State operates.

That example that you just put out there, with spying on the intelligence committee.

Deny. Deny. Deny.

Later it comes out, Glenn. That five CIA employees. Five, improperly accessed.

Five!

And then finally after a while. Like months later. He's apologizing to the Senate intelligence committee.

You know, all, but admitting this happened.

But no resignations.

No prosecutions. This goes on and on and on.

STU: Hang on.

And then on that same case, five years later, he writes his -- you know, his biography.

And he talks about how none of that happened.

So he admits it.

First, he denies it.

Then he's caught. Then he admits it.

He says, I will take care of it.

Nothing happens. Time goes by.

And then he writes a book. And then he goes, all of that. None of that happened.

That was all wrong. This guy is just --

JASON: Yeah. It really is.

And it's the same with the Steele dossier.

You know, did think it in front of Congress.

And then later, now we're coming out. Now we can see that he totally -- it appears like he was just completely lying.

Now we're trying to figure out what about he told John Durham. Because maybe they can get him for saying the same statements to John Durham. If they can, then maybe we can go after him.

But I really don't know.

I really don't know if the audience wants to hear this right now.

I don't know if it will make a difference.

This is how the Deep State operates.

To understand it, and understand John Brennan.

You understand, the executives don't control Deep State apparatuses. That's not how it works.

You have multiple people, and people that were under John Brennan and the CIA, are still there. They're still there.

The Deep State controls the Deep State apparatus, not the executive. Not Congress.

None of them. It is the shady individuals that continue to get away with things. We catch them in lies that never really matters.

I think if we could actually get some justice on this, that John Brennan could actually get -- you know, outed publicly, that he had in the past. This time, something actually happened. That I think that would be a huge step forward in getting rid of some of these people. That just linger. And secretly pull strings, while we're demanding I couldn't wait.

STU: So tell me what happened with the -- the ICA.

You know, the new report out, about the intelligence community assessment.

What is this story all about?

JASON: Yeah, it's a trade craft. The CIA trade craft review.

GLENN: What does that mean?

A trade craft review?

JASON: It's kind of a sexy way of juts saying, how did we operate, you know, from this time, to this time period?

GLENN: Okay.

JASON: And it points out, you know, how things -- like I said. It points out, in part of it. How things like the Steele dossier, ended up getting included into the, you know, whole Russia gate scandal.

And it looks very, very clear, that -- you know, that should not have -- unverified intelligence should not have gotten as far as the president's desk?

It should not have done it.

Even if it had, then it should have been heavily caveated showing, that this is just opposition research bullcrap.

Well, it didn't.

And if you look at it, very, very physically. It shows that if you are, let's say a Bond villain. Or a Batman villain. And you really, really want this damaging information, that's just opposition research, to somehow make it into the hull of the White House. And then knowing that that's going to get leaked down to the media.

They have perfected, you know, the CIA perfected this kind of operation. They know exactly what they're doing. Who would be responsible for doing it?

Why would they be doing it? And it would be for election interference.

And then that's allegedly what John Brennan was actually doing.

That's what it looks like he was doing.

Now we have the intelligence community assessment, showing that this is what happened. With that information and with now being able to go back to people like John Durham or looking at exactly what statements were made to him. So we can fit them into the statute of limitations. Or before it runs out.

GLENN: Which is in the middle of August.

Which really pisses me off. It's another thing like the -- the debt ceiling. Oh! You know, we've had all these years to fix it. But now we have to fix it tonight, and then it's never fixed.

I mean, I'm telling you, this is -- this is not going to be good!

You know, this -- this Epstein thing is not going to go away. It's just not going to go away.

And I'm sorry, but I think the president is on the wrong side on this.

And I'm not assigning any kind of reason for it, but he wants it to just go away.

And I have my belief, I expressed them yesterday.

It's about Intel, again. But you can't keep stacking these things up. You just can't.

John Brennan is a known bad guy, Russiagate. You would think that Donald Trump would be all over this. Because it affected his life so much. This guy is a very, very bad guy.

And both sides of the aisle know it.

And for some reason, nobody can ever do anything about John Brennan. He's got to be investigated and prosecuted if that's where the evidence leads.

But you can't just walk -- if the statute of limitations runs out on this guy, I think -- I think you've got another chink in the armor. A big one!

JASON: Yeah. Yeah. And not just him. I mean, I would go a lot further and say, who were the people that were directly underneath him?

Who were his subordinates? Who were their subordinates?

How many people had knowledge of this?

What we're really talking about is how it operates.

This is how things happen, outside of the wishes of the president.

You know, the executive or even Congress.

This is how -- you know, this is how outside.

This is how justice and how operations work, you know, from people who are not elected.

People that we did not give a mandate to.

This is how this operates. You have to root out every single one of them.

Identify them.

Have them stand in front of justice and see if we can just finally start to will this thing away.

If we do not, then the future does not look great for what we want for this country.

GLENN: Oh, and it's everywhere.

You know, Kevin O'Conner. He's the White House physician for Biden. The testimony that he gave, well, fine. You know, give him -- give him immunity. Give him immunity.

I don't want to know about the private conversations, you know, about his health.

Although, I do think that is really important. We're talking about the president of the United States. He's not just a private citizen. He's property. You know, the president can't say -- if the Secret Service says, sir, you're not going into that room.

The president no longer has the right to say, I'm going into that room.

Sorry, while you're prosecute. It's almost F you're property of the United States of America. And control over your own person in many ways. I'm sorry. But, you know, the physician, client. Or physician patient confidential, I'm not sure that exists, when you're president of the United States.

But there's no reason why you shouldn't give this guy immunity, and then say, okay. Who said, what?

Were you ever told to lie?

I'm not sure you will get the truth out of this guy. Because he is a -- he is a Biden guy, through and through. But people should start going to jail on that.

I'm so sick and tired of these investigations, that start to show promise and then nothing happens. Nothing.

It's been 20 years of investigations, and no one goes to jail.

It's been 20 years of riots on the streets. You know, people burning cities down. People, you know, looting stores. Destroying our economy.

Destroying the safety in our city. And no one goes to jail. President Trump has got to start sending some big, big messages. And he is on so many fronts.

But this one cannot escape his view.

He's got to be on this one.

All right. Jason, thank you very much.

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