Just days after his departure from Fox News was announced, Tucker Carlson shared a message with fans on social media. In this clip, Glenn plays the entire, powerful message about never giving up in the stand for truth: ‘As long as you can hear the words,’ Tucker says, ‘there is hope.’ Plus, Glenn and Stu predict what may be next for the former Fox News host…
Transcript
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GLENN: I don't know if you saw Tucker Carlson's little mini monologue that he put online yesterday. Let's play this here.
TUCKER: Good evening. It's Tucker Carlson. One of the first things you realize, when you step out of the noise for a few days, is how many genuinely nice people there are, in this country.
Kind and decent people. People who really care about what's true.
And a bunch of hilarious people, also. A lot of those. It's got to be the majority of the population. Even now. So that's frightening.
The other thing, when you take a little time off, is how unbelievably stupid most of the debates you see on television are. They're completely irrelevant. They mean nothing. In five years, we won't even remember we had them.
Trust me, as someone who has participated.
And yet, at the same time, and this is the amazing thing.
The undeniably big topics, the ones that will define our future, get virtually no discussion at all. War. Civil liberties. Emerging science. Demographic change. Corporate power. Natural resources.
When was the last time you heard a legitimate debate about any of those issues?
It's been a long time. Debates like that, are not permitted in American media.
Both political parties, and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them. And they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it.
Suddenly, the United States looks very much like a one-party state.
That's a depressing realization.
But it's not permanent. Our current orthodoxies won't last. They're brain dead. Nobody actually believes them.
Hardly anyone's life is improved by them.
This moment is too inherently ridiculous to continue, and so it won't.
The people in charge know this. That's why they're hysterical and aggressive. They're afraid.
They've given up persuasion. They're resorting to force.
But it won't work. When honest people say what's true, calmly and without embarrassment, they become powerful.
At the same time, the liars, who we've been trying to silence them, shrink. They became weaker.
That's the iron law of the universe, true things prevail.
Where can you still find Americans saying true things?
There aren't many places left, but there are some, and that's enough.
As long as you can hear the words, there is hope.
GLENN: That is a great, hey, I'm not dead. I haven't disappeared, and nobody is shutting me up message from Tucker Carlson. It wouldn't be more effective if he wasn't such a Nazi, right?
STU: Right. That's the only hole in the message. He doesn't sound like a Nazi.
GLENN: You know, he likes freeways.
You know who invented the freeway?
STU: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. It's all coming together, Glenn. It's all coming together. The tone of that is really great.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. It really is.
STU: You see that. That's the happy warrior thing. Right?
Where like, he's not backing down. He's not leaving his foundations or his principles, but he's also smiling and enjoying life a little bit.
GLENN: Well, of course, you know, you pay that. A hundred million dollars and they say, get out, and you're not going to work for it.
STU: Why can't I find that job? I need the job.
GLENN: I want that job. I think everyone should have a chance at those jobs.
STU: Right. A job that pays you multiple millions of dollars to not do that job. That's the job I want. I'm sick of doing the job.
GLENN: Right. I am sick in living in this country, that promises all these great things. Oh, you do it. You can achieve. When we have to work for our money!
I want to work a year, and get paid for four.
STU: Yes!
Now, we're not working hard or doing a real job of course. We should know that.
But still! I want no work, and lots of money.
GLENN: Still.
STU: Where is that job? Low on the work side, high on the money side?
You could argue, we probably already have that job. But I want someone that is even more, low on the work side, and high on the money side.
GLENN: I love that he was in his golf cart with his wife. And they're at his house in Florida. And they're zipping around. And they're like, he looks so happy. Of course. Of course he's happy.
They paid him not to work. And it looks like he can work anyway.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: His family is now set for generations. Well, you -- well, you don't get that deal. I'm here for you. I say we sue all of our companies. So -- wait a minute. This would work in our -- I don't want this.
We need to be able to work a year, and get paid for four. That's -- I mean, if I'm president, that's my slogan.
STU: And it would probably work in this era --
GLENN: Oh, it would.
STU: Let me ask. You know Tucker. I mean, other than me talking to them briefly in my interviews. I've never talked to Tucker in my life.
What kind of person is he? Is he a person that will be happy taking a giant paycheck, and hanging out on the beach?
Or is he the type of person that will want to --
GLENN: No. He's the type of guy.
Like, if I was in his situation. And they said, hey. We're going to pay out your contract. I would say, fine.
But there is -- there is no noncompete. There's nothing.
I get to do what I want. Otherwise, I'm going to work for you because I'm going to honor my contract. I could not go on the beach, and waste four years.
And he's not like that either. You see what he's setting up here. He's setting up a different kind of show.
A show where he takes big issues and debates them. That's where he's headed.
STU: Yeah. I'm looking for something a little more substantial. Which is great. Something you need. I will say, it really connects when he's talking about that thing. Where we have these debates, then 5 years later, we don't even remember they happened.
It's so true. We waste so much time on nonsense.
GLENN: It's really, really crazy.
Because when all the conventional wisdom has always been, oh, online. People want it in three minutes. People want it in three minutes.
Explain Joe Rogan. Explain this podcast. People will listen to this podcast, every day for three hours.
I mean, I don't know how you do it. I have to do it. But then if I had to listen to it too, that would be six hours of my day.
And I just couldn't handle it. No matter what they pay. Because I'm still working for other days.
STU: That's a lot.
GLENN: That's a lot of work.
But really, I don't know how people have the time. But they're looking for longer for longer form intelligent questioning.
STU: And honest questioning. And look, we try to do that every day here. But I do think that as a society, certainly on cable news, you see a lot of this happening, where you just -- even said it, I even participated -- of course, we have as well. Everybody has. But this is something that we can fix.
You know, and I think that's what people want.
GLENN: And it's being fixed.
STU: Yeah. It is.
GLENN: It's sorting itself out.
It's just -- it's those damn commies, that are trying to prop up the old system, that is worthless. They say it's about progress. No, it's not.
They're propping up all the old systems.
