Vivek Ramaswamy SLAMS 3 lies about his 2024 presidential run
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Vivek Ramaswamy SLAMS 3 lies about his 2024 presidential run

Most know Vivek Ramaswamy for his involvement in the business, tech, and anti-ESG world. So does he have the political skills needed to successfully lead the country? Ramaswamy, who recently announced his 2024 presidential run, joins Glenn to detail both why he’d make an excellent president and what he would hope to accomplish while in office. Plus, Ramaswamy debunks 3 falsehoods being spread about his career — one of which he calls an outright ‘LIE.’

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Vivek Ramaswamy is on with us.

You know, you could have told me, given me a better clue. We just talked, I think it was on Friday. Said, are you thinking about running for president?

Like, I'm thinking about it.

Come on, you knew.

You knew.

VIVEK: Glenn, I think I said I was very seriously considering it. I think I did on the show.

GLENN: No. We hung up. But I said on the show, he's running. He's absolutely running.

VIVEK: Yeah. Come on. I gave it to you. Absolutely.

GLENN: Vivek, first of all, you were not known as a politician, or somebody who has ever done this.

You're known as a CEO. We'll get into that. What is it that your platform -- look, like on -- with Russia. What would you do as president, with what we're going through right now with Ukraine?

VIVEK: I think foreign policy is all about prioritization, Glenn. I would not spend another dollar on Ukraine. I would re-prioritize that to take on the number one foreign policy challenge. Which is Declaration of Independence from communist China.

I think we can declare economic independence, and defeat them economically, so we don't have to militarily. That's number one.

And at number two, if there's a youth case for the U.S. military and weapons, it is actually to protect our border and to take on, and I would go so far as to say, decimate the cartels, 100,000 fentanyl deaths in the United States today.

Eighty percent of which comes from Southern border crossings. Deal with that. Protect our soil here. We could do that for a refraction, Glenn, of the cost that it takes to, you know, fight a foreign war, on the ear side of the world. That has far fewer American interests to it.

I was in New Hampshire yesterday, and actually one of the things that surprised me, Glenn, was how broad the support for that idea for policy profits is.

And it's amazing, because the defense establishment doesn't -- says, you can't say that in polite company. But that gives you a sense for where I am on foreign policy.

GLENN: So let me ask you, Vivek, the -- Donald Trump was an outsider, he came in. And he's told me, several times, personally, he had no -- he knew it was bad.

But he had no idea, that he wouldn't be able to trust a soul, in Washington. He had no idea, how deep the Deep State was.

And how powerful it was.

What makes you think, you could go in, and rock everyone's world.

VIVEK: Well, he's told me the same thing, and he's a friend. And honestly, I take inspiration of what he did in 2015. I just think we have to take this to the next level. Part of this will just have to be shutting agencies down, full stop. Now, are there costs and benefits to that?

Yes. But I think we live in moments, where the benefits outlive those costs.

GLENN: So when you say shut the agencies down, what agencies are you talking about?

VIVEK: Department of Education. Let's start there. I was speaking to the Iowa legislature this morning, congratulating them for what they did in school choice in Ohio.

I said, they need to eliminate the Department of Education.

Many other three-letter acronyms. Even much of the national security apparatus, Glenn, has to be shut down and replaced in those cases with something new.

Because when a managerial rot runs so deep, you can't reform it by putting a different figurehead at the top.

You have to shut it down, and build something new to take its place.

And here's the other thing: I can say that Donald Trump knows this just as well as I do, from being a CEO.

If you can't fire somebody who works for you, that means they don't work for you.

It means, you work for them. You are their slave.

We need to replace these civil service protections, with sunset clauses. Saying that, you know what, if I can't be the next president of the United States and work for the federal government, for more than eight years, than neither should anybody who works for me, either.

Those federal bureaucrats have to be subject to eight-year sunset clauses.

GLENN: How are you going to get that done?

I mean, you have to have -- you have to have a Congress, that has the balls to do these things. And I'm not sure you have the Congress on either side of the aisle.

You've got a few.

VIVEK: Glenn, you're asking all the right questions, right? So I take a strong view of the Constitution here.

Article II of the Constitution says that the president of the United States, runs the federal government, period.

So if Congress isn't willing to act. As president, I am. And I have studied the Supreme Court. And the composition of the Supreme Court right now.

You want to take this one and test it in the Supreme Court with me? Great. We can then use judicial president to make sure we lock that in.

I believe that Clarence Thomas, and others on the court today, will be right there with me, on my view of Article II and how that reads in the Constitution, to say that a lot of these other -- constitutional statutes. From the impoundment prevention act of 1974. That says that the president has to spend money on specific agencies that greatest has actually authorized to spend it on. That's authorization, not a mandate.

Firing civil service protections, as I said, if you're running the federal government, under articles of the Constitution, the president runs the executive branch.

I take the Constitution seriously. And, you know what, I think the friendly way to do it is to leave Congress.

I personally think that 2024 can actually be landslide election, Glenn.

A topic for another day. I'm optimistic about that.

But if we don't get it done that way, we will get it done through executive authority, per what the Constitution empowers a president to do.

This is once again, America first. I'm all in as an America first conservative.

We just have to take this to the next level, with what I'm repeatedly now calling America first, 2.0.

And that's a big part of the reason, I'm doing this.

GLENN: So why did you -- you said you were Libertarian.

Why -- why did you decide you were a Republican?

A conservative? Over a Libertarian?

VIVEK: I used to be a Libertarian in college. I had this discussion with the folks in New Hampshire too.

There were a couple of Libertarians that came to one of my rallies last night. But here's the thing: Libertarians, I got two issues.

One is, they're too meek, actually. So they'll talk about the free market.

And they say, they don't want to make political expression a civil right, as I believe we need to in this country. Yet, they don't actually touch the other protected classes, like race or sex or religion or national origin.

To my view, to Libertarians today, with all due respect, have their heads in the sand.

Because you can't have it both ways. That's problem number one. The problem number two is deeper. Which is, you know, what are we doing, in that free world?

Even when the state is out of our hair. There's still the deeper question of purpose, as citizens. How we live our lives. How we live virtuous lives.

And I care about virtue, in civic life and in family life, and in faith-based life too. Not to say that the governments should necessarily be involved or mandating those things.

But those things matter for human flourishing, for American flourishing, and Libertarianism has nothing to say about that.

That is why I call myself a conservative today, in contrast to 15 years ago, when I thought I was a cool kid in college, calling myself a libertarian.

GLENN: So we're talking to Vivek Ramaswamy.

He's running for president of the United States. As a Republican.

We've gotten to know each other, over the World Economic Forum. And ESG.

And you are not only one of the biggest voices against it. You are actually -- you've put into action, strive management.

Where you are saying, invest with us.

We'll do better with your money than BlackRock.

And we're going to use the voting rights, that we get, to try to tell these companies, don't do these woke things.

But there's some charges out about you. That I just like to hear you answer.

You were nominated and selected, as a World Economic Forum young global leader in '21.

Did --

VIVEK: Glenn, this is hilarious. This is hilarious. Thank you for this opportunity. This is actually a lot of fun for me. Look, there are a lot of people on the right and the left that are threatened by my entry into this race.

So I welcome the opportunity to have this debate in the open. All right?

I think you know this.

I don't like to boast about myself. But I would go so far to say, no one. And I mean, no one in this country has been a bigger both doer and crusader against the World Economic Forum agenda, than probably the two of us on this call.

I really mean it. I would challenge anybody to name one for me. If you really pressed me.

I would name maybe Elon Musk. And guess what, he's named on that sanely website, of the World Economic Forum. Somebody else, financially.

Friend, Peter Thiel. He's been named on that same website. You want to know why? Here's the dirty little secret. Though -- and I have seen it firsthand. I experienced it firsthand. The World Economic Forum names you on their website without your permission.

So the funny part is, I have a book coming out later this year. Where I actually detailed this experience.

I have phone calls, emails. And I was respectful about it.

I believe in being civil. But I said, do not name me on your website, because I do not accept your award. I don't want to speak at your conference.

They tell me, no, no, no. You don't understand. We have all the global billionaires here. Mark Zuckerbuck was a young global fellow.

No, no, no, Vivek, you don't understand. This is an honor. I respectfully disagree. I don't want to be named. And I don't want to accept your award.

And then they go on to put my name on their website anyway. They've asked me to speak here, and that kind of thing.

I declined. But the funny thing about me. And I've learned a little bit about how this partisan politics game works. You know, Trump spoke at the World Economic Forum in Davos, in 2018 and 2019.

Do I hold that against him?

No. You want to know why, because everyone who is as financially successful as me or Donald Trump or Elon Musk or whatever, gets invited to speak. In my case, I've said no. This has been my focus area.

It would not have made sense for me to do it. In Trump's case, he said, yes, I don't hold that against him.

But I think it just reveals, you know, one of the things that has been eye-opening to me, about the online version of the conservative movement. The rise of these click bait conservatives. That it is sort of sad. Want to mislead their followers to advance what agenda, I don't know.

But at the end of the day, I also don't want to complain about it.

One of the big leagues of presidential politics. It's well-known, it is a dirty game. But it's good to keep your eye on the facts. And there's no -- this agenda than me.

GLENN: Well, I can verify one thing. The world economical forum has me on a list too. And they won't take me off that list either.

So it's just not the same kind of list.

BRAD: They can do it.

GLENN: I know. So the next thing is, that you have a long time association with Soros.

And I'm probably the number one anti-Soros guy in the world.

VIVEK: Can I give you a one-word answer to that question, Glenn?

I know you're the number one anti-Soros guy. So I'm not saying false to you. I'm saying false to the long-time association with George Soros.

Lie. 100 percent lie.

Now, let me actually give you guys the facts. And again, this -- these click bait conservatives online.

I don't know if they feel threatened or whatever. And they need to make up stuff.

I was 25 years old. When I went to law school. I got a scholarship funded by Paul Soros, not George Soros. But Paul Soros.

That allowed me at the age of 25, to pay for law school, and I took it.

You want to know why? Because I'm smart.

Now, it's hilarious to me, that the same people who bring that back up from when I was 25 years old, taking a scholarship, funded partially by somebody who is related to George Soros, don't say a word about the fact, that, again, Donald Trump, who I love. Who I respect. I'm not criticizing him. Took 160-million-dollar loan from not Paul Soros, but George Soros himself.

I have no problem with this. You want to know why?

Because it's business.

Donald Trump knows what he's doing. I don't think he's corrupted by that.

I'm not criticizing him for it. He's a friend. But I think it's funny. And I think it's revealing, that these same people will talk about a 25-year-old dude taking a scholarship to help him pay for law school from a relative of George Soros. Make a big deal out of that, without saying a peep about Donald Trump taking 165 million-dollar loan for George Soros, and I say that as a friend and somebody who respects Donald Trump.

Because I don't think that that disqualifies him or taints him in any way, because he's a man of integrity. And he's doing business the way he knows how.

But I think when you're in positions like I've been or Donald Trump has been, you get that. I think, you know, if you're sitting online on Twitter, it can be a very different story.

GLENN: All right. I have one more question in this line here. And that is: You're -- you're a biotechnical guy. And in bed with big pharmaceuticals.

And big proponent of mRNA shots.

And, you know, you -- you have -- you've never critiqued Pfizer.

VIVEK: So let me -- let me say a couple things. First of those things is true.

I'm a biotech guy. I am proud of my success in biotech. Glenn, five of the medicines I worked on, personally oversaw in the company I founded. Are FDA products today.

That is now a multi-billion-dollar company. A seven-billion-dollar company that I led as CEO.

One of those drugs is a drug for prostate cancer. Another for women's health conditions, for endometriosis, to Uterine fibroids, to psoriasis. To one that is particularly touching for me.

I say an approved therapy for kids, who are born with a genetic disease that caused them to die by the age of two, at a 100 percent fatality rate by the age of 2 or 3. Now a majority of them have an opportunity to live lives of potentially a normal duration.

I'm proud of those things, Glenn. I will not apologize. That is part of what makes America great, and it's part of what makes innovation great, is it empowers human beings to live better lives.

That is not an association with anything other than human innovation and a commitment to actually making people prosper by addressing diseases and treating them.

Now, the idea that I am a proponent of some sort of vaccination agenda. No, I'm on the record right now.

I oppose vaccine mandates. I think there has been a lot of rampant government lying and mistrust. Appropriately shown to the American public. Because of how badly they handled this issue.

But I think we can't go to a place where we say that now we don't want people working on innovative medicines to treat diseases from prostate cancer, to psoriasis, to genetic conditions in children.

No. I think we have to stand up for the innovation that makes us who we are. And I'm proud of what I accomplished.

GLENN: All right. Talking to Vivek Ramaswamy. Back with him in just a second.

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GLENN: Let me go back to your platform. A good friend of ours, David Harsanyi, has pushed back a bit on one of your platform policies. I would like to hear your response.

STU: Yeah. I think some respectful questioning, about one of your policy proposals, Vivek, about making political ideas a protected right.

I think there's a lot of appeal to conservatives, who continually get fired from their jobs, over what they believe.

He says, though. You're -- we could have some negative side effects. He says, your idea would potentially make it illegal for not only for Disney to fire a social conservative, but for a Jewish restaurant to sever its restaurant with a neo-Nazi, or a hedge fund would be compelled to keep a Trotskyite, who believe profits are evil on the payroll. Or Walmart having to wait for the worker who spends his days trying to put big box chains out of business, to leave on his own volition. How do you walk this line?

Because, obviously, there's a lot of really negative consequences coming from this. But does -- if we make this a civil right, does it go too far?

VIVEK: Great question. These are the things that we should actually be talking about. Great question. Thank you.

Here's what I would say: I would give Congress a choice. Either you repeal the protected classes as they exist. Okay?

Race, sex, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, and you actually leave it to the free market. Or you have to apply those standards evenhandedly. But you cannot have it both ways.

And since this is -- I know who I'm talking to. A pretty sophisticated counterpart here, and Glenn in particular understands this. I know.

Let me explain how those civil rights laws and protected classes created the conditions for viewpoint discrimination. Okay?

GLENN: We have two minutes.

VIVEK: Yeah. So Lyndon Johnson thought it was just prohibiting discrimination on the base of race.

But they've now been interpreted to say, that includes hostile work environments against religious minorities. What's one of the ways you can create a hostile work environment?

It's by wearing a Trump hat to work. It's by saying the wrong thing on social media. So ironically, the law created the conditions for a viewpoint-based discrimination, while leaving political viewpoints unprotected.

So you can't have it both ways. If you can't fire somebody for being black or gay or Muslim or white or Jewish or whatever, you should not be able to fire somebody for being an outspoken conservative either.

We have to apply these standards, evenhandedly. And if you want to get rid of protected classes altogether, great. I'll have that conversation. But no Republican or anybody else is willing to.

So in the meantime, I think we need to bring civil rights into the 21st century, to protect political expression as a civil right.

GLENN: All right. Vivek, I love the fact that you're running. I -- I support anybody who is standing up for the Constitution. Standing up for the right of people. Standing up against the endless wars and the lies. And you just are just able to run for president, are you not?

Didn't you just have a birthday? What are you, 36? Thirty-seven?

VIVEK: Two years ago. Thirty-seven. Thirty-seven.

GLENN: Thirty-seven.

Yeah. That would be a shocking change from what we had traditionally. Since really Clinton. And I think he was in his 40s.

STU: I only want people above 100 years old to run for president. Yes, I think we should go the other direction. I'm sorry, Vivek.

GLENN: All right. Vivek Ramaswamy.

We'll talk to you again. Thank you so much.

You can find out more, at Vivek V-I-V-E-K2024.com. Vivek2024.com. V-I-V-E-K2024.com.

SHOCKING: "Several boats a week" dropping off UNVETTED illegals on California beaches
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SHOCKING: "Several boats a week" dropping off UNVETTED illegals on California beaches

The Biden-Harris administration claims that illegal immigration is down, but San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond joins Glenn to expose the reality in southern California. From September 2023 to June 2024, Border Patrol dropped off 155,000 illegal immigrants into the county, he argues. But although this suspiciously stopped right before the election heated up, Desmond says that tons of illegals are still being shipped out of the city every day by bus to Arizona and every week by plane to Texas. And to make matters worse, “several boats a week” have been dropping off UNVETTED illegal immigrants into San Diego County for months. We have no idea who these people are, he argues, and thanks to California’s sanctuary state laws, local law enforcement can’t do anything about it.

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GLENN: Let's see. We have Jim Desmond on with us.

I look at what's happening at our border. And they keep saying that they've gotten it under control.

Now they're trying to convince people, that it's, you know, lower numbers coming across, than when Trump was in office.

This is absolutely not true. So we have the supervisor for San Diego.

He's on with us. He is the county supervisor, and he has information on Border Patrol. On something that is, you know, now apparently happening, again on our border.

Welcome, Jim.

JIM: Glenn, thanks for having me this morning.

GLENN: You bet. So tell me what the Border Patrol informed you of.

JIM: Well, the numbers are down, but from record highs.

GLENN: Yes.

JIM: We still have more capacity. More people coming across the border, than we can actually handle here in San Diego County.

Or in the San Diego sector.

And what happens, you know, from September of last year. Until June of this year.

The Border Patrol dropped off over 155,000 people. To send sound bite streets of San Diego County.

GLENN: 155,000?

JIM: Yes. Absolutely.

They dropped off over that nine-month period of time.

And we had to absorb them. Or most of them left. And went to other parts of the country.

So they were just dropping off the excess here. In our -- in our transit stations here in San Diego County.

That stopped in June.

But what they have been doing every since, is we're still taking more people in that we can manage here.

There's about three buses a day. That they're taking migrants. Border Patrol is taking migrants in Yuma, Arizona, which is right outside the California/Arizona line. So about three buses per day, and they have about three to four flights per week, leaving San Diego, going to Texas.

Primarily McAllen, Texas.

So it's just smoke and mirrors. What they're doing is they're taking these numbers. They're no longer putting them on our streets.

Which is very in the open. And press and everything else.

Had access to that. And they're hiding them by busing them to Arizona or flying them to Texas.

GLENN: Well, I want to thank. I want to thank them for that. This is -- I mean, if -- if Trump doesn't win, what do you think is coming our way, Jim?

JIM: Well, I think it will go back to where it was before. Where we got several hundred dropped off each day, here in San Diego County.

And unfortunately, we became the number one spot for border crossings.

Or the number one spot for fentanyl.

We're up in one of the top spots for human trafficking.

You know, all of these things we don't want.

It's in June, right before the election, as far as the street drop-offs. That was the most visible thing that we could see.

I think unfortunately, we will go back to the mayhem we had, in the last -- you know, previous months. Where they were just dropping off more and more people, here in San Diego County.

That's what I hear.

GLENN: So you are a county supervisor.

What can you do, if anything?

JIM: Not much. Other than reporting it. What's happening.

And of you with the other things, what's happening here, in San Diego County.

We're getting several boats. A week. Just, where people run up on to our shores.

With boats. And smugglers. And people just getting off the votes. And walking into the -- our neighborhoods. And they just abandon the boats on the beach.

Those people aren't even checked or go through Border Patrol.

They're not fingerprinted. We have slightly no idea.

And that's been happening for months. And if you remember 9/11, was only a couple dozen people. Well, two votes say couple dozen people, coming on to our shores.

And that's happening, you know, several times a week, where we have these people, just completely unaccounted for.

GLENN: It is crazy. Let me play something here that came from Dr. Phil.

This -- he is talking to a special agent with ICE.

It's cut ten.

VOICE: So you're telling me that DHS has acknowledged that Venezuela, for example, is empty in their prisons. And their rehabilitation centers, with the understanding that you get out, if you leave here, and go to the United States?

VOICE: Yes.

VOICE: And DHS has in writing said, we know that's happening. We know they're coming here. We're processing them in. And have no idea where they are?

VOICE: Correct.

VOICE: How many people are we talking about?

VOICE: Millions, and in just Venezuela alone.

GLENN: How does a country survive that? How does a country survive that? How does San Diego survive that?

JIM: We don't. We're getting overrun.

And to be honest with you, the state of California, say sanctuary state.

Which means, that our local laughter cannot enforce immigration law.

So even these people that are getting off the boats and walking into you're neighborhoods.

Local laughter can't do a thing about it. They pull somebody over.

They can't ask them about their immigration status. And so, you know, we're a sanctuary state because of that. There's very little, you know, locally, that anybody can do about this stuff.

So that -- one of the issues. The other thing, that the federal government just did to us, recently.

They gave us $19 million for a migrant processing center, here in San Diego County.

Right after the -- right after the June drop-offs.

They gave us $19 million.

And that's FEMA dollars. That could have been going to hurricane relief.

Right now, we're not using that money at all.

But it's 19 million FEMA dollars, sitting in our pockets, waiting for a migrant center. Which probably, if Kamala wins, we will have to put up right away.

GLENN: Jeez. God bless you, Jim.

Thank you for breaking this news. I appreciate your courage. Thank you.

JIM: Glenn, thanks for putting it out there. I love it.

GLENN: You bet. That's county supervisor from San Diego. Jim Desmond, who posted, I think it was, what?

Last night, or the night before, about what's happening now. They are flying them out.
Flying them out!

Congratulations, Arizona. You get some. Texas, you get some.

STU: It's like Oprah.

Everyone has some under their chair. Congratulations.

GLENN: Actually probably -- kind of like literally that.
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Oh, man.

STU: Disturbing.

THESE Harris & Walz picks reveal how global elites are LYING to you
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THESE Harris & Walz picks reveal how global elites are LYING to you

If you want to know who Kamala Harris and Tim Walz really are, look at who they’ve picked to work in their campaign and administrations. Glenn and Stu review Team Harris-Walz’ pick for Climate Engagement Director, Camila Thorndike, who has called oil and gas WORKERS dangerous for the environment. So, why did she join the Harris campaign, which is now saying it WON’T ban fracking? If that wasn’t disturbing enough, Glenn and Stu introduce you to a man who’s helping shape Minnesota’s schools under Tim Walz. The propaganda machine insists that Critical Race Theory is harmless and barely used in our schools. But you have to hear what this appointee said about “deconstructing” the U.S. for yourselves. While the government lies to you, Glenn brings on Justin Haskins, the co-author of his new book, "Propaganda Wars," to explain how to cut through the propaganda and find the truth.

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GLENN: We were talking last hour about the new appointee for Harris' campaign. She's a global warming extremist. That says, if you are in the oil and gas business, at all, you're a terrorist. You're an eco-terrorist.

She is somebody who is so extreme, on global warming. She doesn't like capitalism. She doesn't like oil and gas or anything like that.

So why would she join the Kamala Harris campaign, leave Bernie Sanders' legislation team, and go and be the spokesperson on economic -- or I'm sorry. On ecological issues.

Why would she join Kamala Harris? Because an extremist would say, she's changing everything she's doing.

She's saying, she's not even going to go after fracking anymore. That she's going to approve new oil leases.

STU: She's opposed to the green new deal.

GLENN: Right. She's a traitor to everything I believe.

That's what she should say. But she didn't. She joined on.

And then said, no. Kamala has really changed her mind. She's -- she's not going to do any of those things. Okay?

You have to ask why. Why?

So we went into that yesterday. Now, let me -- or earlier today. Let me go into the education czar. What's the title.

STU: Yeah. It's he actually is one of the people helping implement the framework, or curriculum.

For the new ethnic studies standards. In the state of Minnesota.

GLENN: Okay. Remember, you were told by the propaganda machine, that CRT is nothing. First of all, it's not anything. It doesn't even happen. It doesn't exist. We're not even doing that.

STU: Just a bunch of academics talking. We got to that phase.

GLENN: We got to, okay. It's in there. But it doesn't mean what you think it means. It's totally harmless.

Now, we don't even talk about it anymore.

Remember, this came in under Biden Harris.

This came into our schools.

They didn't dare release it, under Donald Trump.

But they put it into our schools, after the election.

Now, what does it mean?

Well, it certainly doesn't mean an end to the United States of America.

That's what Tim Walz would say. Then if that's true, why would he hire this guy?

STU: And it's Brian Lazinski.

He is an associate professor of Urban and Multicultural Education in St. Paul.

He was helping, with not just the ethnic studies, but also the social studies standards. Citizenship and government. Economics, geography, history, and now ethnic studies. This comes from Stanley Kurtz, by the way.

He did a great job reporting on that.

GLENN: Amazing.

STU: Let me give you his thoughts now on CRT. And what its role is in the schools. But also, what it actually means. And what he believes about it.

VOICE: And we're also sometimes lying on ourselves, when people say, like, oh, we can.

We use Critical Race Theory in school.

We don't use Critical Race Theory in school.

The first tenant of Critical Race Theory is that the United States, as constructed, is irreversibly racist.

STU: Hmm.

VOICE: So if the nation state as constructed is irreversibly racist, then it must be done with. It must be overthrown, right?

And so we can't be like, oh, no. Critical Race Theory is about telling our stories. It's not about that. It's about overthrow.

It's insurgent. And we need to be, I think more honest about that.

And it's funny that they -- they don't understand Critical Race Theory.

But they actually tell some truth, when they're like, yeah. It's antistate.

You can't be a critical race thirsty. And be pro-US.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Okay. It's an antistate theory.

That says that the United States needs to be deconstructed period. Right?

That's -- and so I think -- I think it's an interesting argument there.

And that's why I'm a critical race thirsty.

STU: Oh. that's why he's a Critical Race Theorist.

Because the overthrow of the government, and the insurgency and all.

Now, you might say, if you had a picture taken with you at a party with this man, you know, you will deny that.

You will --

GLENN: You would say, I didn't have any idea who that guy was.

STU: I had no idea who that guy was. Think about the prospect of not only associating yourself with him. But also promoting him to design the curriculum for the students of Minnesota.

This guy is out there.

He's a teacher. He's a football coach.

A hunter. He's America's dad.


What you just heard is who Tim Walz actually is.

What he's telling you is that he's America's dad, but that's who he really is. That's what he wants.

His education department chose that guy, to design your kid's classes.

GLENN: So the first thing to avoid propaganda, is to constantly ask why. And be willing to accept the truth.

So there are so many Democrats right now, that won't accept that, why?

Because they'll hear it from me. Or they'll hear it from Fox News.

So it's a convenient way just to dismiss it.

But there's the audio of the guy, Tim Walz, put in charge of the history and critical race curriculum, in Minnesota schools.

JUSTIN: Right. Yeah. I think what's so important about propaganda wars is we want to equip people with the ability to figure out these things on their own, all right? We don't want people to rely just on shows like this. We need people to become trusted sources of information in their own lives. Teach people how to be citizen journalists. This is what we desperately need. And what you find, when you go to the original sources over and over and over again, what we discovered and what we outline in this book, is that there is a propaganda industrial complex, that it goes well beyond just what's in the media. That there is a vast network of left-wing groups. And big money organizations.

And others. Many of whom, people listening to these shows.

As active listeners as they may be. Have never heard of these organizations. Now, you brought up the education thing. This is really interesting.

So in the first chapter of the book, where we just talk about how screwed up everything is, it's called welcome to the clown world.

We talk about this nonprofit organization called education trust west.

That's the name of it. Education trust west.

They are one of these people that believe that there's all this racism, inherently in mathematics. They believe that public education has a responsibility to inject social justice ideology, into every subject, including mathematics.

They said, and this is a direct quote. That finding -- not this first part of it is not the correct quote. But finding the correct answer to a math problem, is, quote, white supremacy culture.

Unquote. Now, they've been distributing these workbooks all over the company.

In California. In Georgia. In Ohio. Are those far left-wing states. California is. But not Georgia and Ohio.

These things are everywhere. Now, we get into who these major players are. Not just these organizations. But who is funding them.

Where do we get their money? Because they're not selling their money to the public. Well, they just so happen to get their money from a little organization.

Just a tiny, little one. Most people have never heard of. Call the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. So they're pumping all of this money into these textbooks that are teaching kids at the local level, that racism is everywhere.

You're a white supremacist, if you're trying to get people to find the right answer.

This is everywhere. So what you have to do, and what we try to show people in this book, is that you have to find the sources of this misinformation.

It's not just enough to say, well, that's crazy. That's the kind of thing that happens in Portland. Well, yeah.

That does happen in Portland. But it's also happening in Portland. It's also happening in Georgia.

And it's because these organizations exist everywhere. The network is vast.

George Soros and people like that are pouring hundreds of millions and billions of dollars worldwide, into these kinds of efforts.

And if you don't know who they are. You don't know what to look out for.

GLENN: So one of the biggest questions I have gotten asked over the years, and I hear it asked very seldom now. And I wonder why.

Used to be, why do these people do this? Why would Bill and Melinda Gates do this?

Why would they teach that math is racist? Because you have to now start to think, unlike Americans used to think.

Americans used to think. Well, we all want what is best.

You now have to understand what the elites think is best. Is best for them. Not for you.

They are teaching our children, to be slaves.

They are teaching them not to ask questions. Let me ask you: If you believe that math is racist, therefore I don't really have to do it. It's racist to ask me to do it. It's racist for me to try to figure it out on my own.

How do those people build bridges? How do those people even -- even measure a wall to make a house?

How do you do the basic stuff that you have to do? If you can't do math.

You -- Elon Musk what he did, it already kind of looks like magic to me.

But I know it's all based in science.

But if I find out that science and mathematics is racist, I can't do what Elon Musk -- I can't even explain, what Elon Musk is doing. It does become magic.

These people are training a whole continent. In fact, the whole world. The Western world, to be slaves.

You cannot think for yourself. Why would they do that? Because they have control.

They want the money. They want the power.

And they actually believe and so do I, in many ways, that if they control AI. They win.

Once they control AI, and Putin has said this. Whoever gets it first. Controls the world.

They're putting all of their eggs in that basket. And we unfortunately, have been saying to ourselves, you know what, AI. Why even learn that?

AI will teach you. You can just go online and just say, hey. How do I build a bridge? And it will show you.

So why do I even have to learn math? Why do I have to learn to read, when I can just say, AI. What does this say?

What is that about? Can you write a paper on that for me?

We're being taught to rely, not on technology. On those who control the technology.

CBS News EXPOSED its REAL agenda with 60 Minutes editing scandal response
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CBS News EXPOSED its REAL agenda with 60 Minutes editing scandal response

After 2 weeks of criticism, CBS News has finally released a statement on its “60 Minutes” editing scandal … and it was very snarky. CBS News insisted that its editing of Kamala Harris’ answers wasn’t “deceitful.” It also claimed that the 2 cuts of Harris’ response to a question about Israel were from the same question/answer segment, and not taken from another part of the interview. But Glenn still has a few questions: Why did it take so long to put this statement out? Why was it so snarky? And will CBS News release the interview’s full transcript? If you’ve had enough of the mainstream media’s games, Glenn and Stu share the most effective way for you to let your voice be heard.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So 60 minutes, finally came out.

Now it's been what? Twelve days. Fourteen days.

STU: A couple of weeks, yeah.

GLENN: A couple of weeks.

And there's been one question. Hey. Why is one answer different in the promo, than the answer you aired the next night, in the special, from Kamala Harris?

Kamala Harris was asked a question, and she gave this long convoluted answer pop Face the Nation. From that interview.

Then when it aired the next day, on CBS. The whole interview. It wasn't anything like that.

So people have been saying, can you release the transcript and release the video footage?

They always do that. For the full unedited interview, go to 60minutes.com, right?

They always do that, at least the transcript. So we've been asking for the transcript. You've been asking for the transcript.

The government has been asking for the transcript. Of the unedited interview.

So 60 minutes takes them two weeks to respond over the weekend with this. Sixty minutes gave an excerpt of our interview to face the nation, that used a longer section of her answer, than on 60 Minutes.

The statement claimed. Same question. Same answer. But a different portion of the response.

It was more succinct, which allows time for other subjects in a wide-ranging 21-minute long subject.

Then they said, but remember, Mr. Trump pulled out of his interview with 60 Minutes. And the vice president participated.

So, wow. Is that -- why was that last line necessary in answering the other question?

That shows, they have an agenda. Why wouldn't they release this?

It's taken them two weeks.

STU: I really don't get it. Other than, there's something there, they're literally trying to hide.

GLENN: Clearly. Clearly.

STU: You can argue, in some way -- like, if someone demanded to us release a transcript of something.

Screw you. We will do what we want.

Like you could see sort of an indignant response. It's our material.

We will release what we want.

That's not the argument we're making. They're not making any argument. They're not even addressing why.

They keep saying, well, we edited to make a 20-minute segment. Well, you have 45 minutes with her.

What happened to the other 24 minutes. Why didn't you release that? You didn't to have put it in the show, even. As you point out, you could put it online.

GLENN: So here's what you need to do. You need to email. Or write snail mail.

I would suggest email. Email the stations. Make it to the general manager.

You look for your local CBS television station.

And you ask them, why they are not demanding for their own local audience. To be informed on what looks like CBS news election interference.

Here's why you write that.

Because a letter has to be saved. Any complaint like that, has to be saved for the FCC.
That's how you get their license pulled.

You don't do it, you know, nationally. CBS news doesn't have a license. But the local stations have licenses.

And those local stations will call up to CBS. And say, what are you doing to us?

Release that information.

So if you want results on this, call -- I'm sorry.

Write snail mail. Or email the general manager of your local CBS station. Do it today.

GLENN: Big news, tomorrow, I'm releasing my next book. Propaganda Wars. How the global elite control what you see, think, and feel.

We all know that we're watching propaganda. It dominates every part of our lives now. From our children's biology textbooks to presidential debate stages.

But what most people don't understand is how powerful and well-organized this propaganda scheme has become. Who are the main players that are transforming our un.

What do they have planned?

What can we do to stop them?

Find out tomorrow. Join me in the fight to take our country back.

Preorder propaganda wars now at GlennBeck.com/books or Amazon.

Wherever you get your books.

It's out tomorrow.

The -- the audiobook is tremendous, I think.

It's really, really good.

This one will tell you how to stop things.

For instance, not in this book. But let me give you one of the things that will be helpful for CBS.

We were just talking about it a minute ago. You want to stop the propaganda. Well, it seems like you can't get any answers from CBS, right?

Even Congress won't give it. They won't give an answer to Congress.

So they're hiding something. So how do you get to CBS?

CBS cares about its local affiliates.

And if the local affiliates are squeezed, they will report that to the -- to the FCC. Because they have to! So I want you to write a letter to your local CBS affiliate. Your local television.

CBS affiliate. And write it to the general manager.

CC the FCC.

So they know, there's record of this. Because all of those letters have to be saved for their renewal of their license.

And if there is an overwhelming number of letters, addressing this propaganda. And using language, about your local community.

We don't care what the rest of the country might be thinking. But we believe this is propaganda from the network.

How can you, as a local station stand by, and allow this to happen. We demand answers, from CBS.

They won't give them, the answers.

Well, you should be asking for those answers.

Otherwise, you're not serving your community. Make sure you put that in.

You're not serving your community. That's how license challenges come up.

And there isn't anyone who is a general manager, who likes to see a letter like that.

No one. Because that just gives the FCC ammunition. You just want the FCC to walk in. See your public file. And go, okay. You're good.

You don't want anything that just makes that sticky. They will call if you're starting to give them lots of letters. They will call CBS and say, can you edit this please, because this is killing us?

STU: It's a similar approach, that many took toward -- and you discussed earlier about Bud Light. It wasn't called Bud Light.

It was a tweet to Bud Light. It was talk to the distributors. And that made a real difference in that moment.

GLENN: Yeah, it was the distributors that broke the back finally. Because, remember, the distributors said, we're not going to take Bud Light.

We're not going to take it. The local bars, we're not going to take it.

And so once those distributors fall apart, they're in trouble.

STU: And it's important to understand, with 60 minutes. This is a supposedly -- a news organization.

A news program.

The news program.

GLENN: Right. Right.

STU: We are not asking them, hey. You need to ask tougher questions of Kamala Harris.

Obviously, I feel like they should.

But it's their editorial control on that aspect.

What we're asking for is what actually occurred.

We've got a presidential election decision to make. Can you tell us what went on here?

And I will be honest. At the beginning of this. They edit.

GLENN: We always do.

STU: I try to give the benefit of the doubt, whenever necessary.

Or wherever possible.

Because, you know, I'm a conservative.

And my personal political bias, is to want one side to win.

So I try to question that all the time, so I'm not just randomly. There's so many people, on the freaking internet.

Saying, everything that is good for their side.

I don't want to be that person.

GLENN: I don't either.

STU: So at the beginning of this, I kind of suspected.

60 minutes edits this stuff all the time.

You're right. They will typically release larger portions. Or context alone.

GLENN: Especially if there's a problem or question.

STU: Journalists would react that way.

We're not asking for them. We're not micromanaging the way they ask questions.

Or why didn't they follow up on this. We can complain about that all day.

We just want to know what occurred.

There's a 45-minute interview. In which they aired 21 minutes. Why are we not knowing what happened in the other 24 minutes?

Why? What happened there?

At the beginning, I was skeptical, it was something really bad for the Harris campaign. The way they're acting here, the fact that after all this pressure, they haven't just said, okay. Here it is. Just look at it.

We didn't do anything wrong.

You might have thought we made a wrong editorial choice, but it's all right there. The fact that they haven't done that in 2 weeks, makes me think, something really bad happened.

Something where she really said something, that might really damage her campaign.

And I don't know -- I don't know what to think, other than that.

This is bizarre behavior from an organization that is supposed to be protecting its journalistic credentials.

GLENN: And, you know what, it may not even be on that question.

That question --

STU: I know. It might not at all.

GLENN: Yeah. But that leads us to believe, if they're editing that question, what other questions did they -- did they do anywhere?

You need the full transcript. And the full tape.

STU: Exactly.

GLENN: Like you said, 41 minutes.

Here's what really doesn't make sense to me.

You have a woman, that is not doing interviews.

At the time, this aired. She had just started giving interviews.

So it's her first major interview, since. Who was it? ABC, I think.

STU: Dana Bash did one, with both of them. Remember that?

GLENN: Right. So it's her first major network solo interview. All right?

STU: Solo.

In a time, where everyone wants to see it. I mean, we watched it. I don't want to watch -- I'm not watching it, if Joe Biden is giving an interview. I've seen it.

Been there, done that. I've got it. I and everyone else in America. Even her supporters, wants to know where she actually stands on things.

So why would you have a 40-minute interview.

You have 41 minutes in an hour.

Okay.

And why would they only use 21 minutes with all of the setup and everything else.

That's probably. They probably used. I'll be generous.

They used 16 minutes of her actually speaking.

Okay?

Why wouldn't you -- why wouldn't you want to drive traffic even to your -- your website?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Why wouldn't you make the entire thing.

It's not your Sunday, typical 60 Minutes. Why wouldn't you make the whole thing. Just that we sat down for an hour long interview. And you'll see it this week, on 60 minutes. Why wouldn't you do that?

STU: And I watched that whole hour, Glenn, as I mentioned. They had Tim Walz on for a second, which is moderately defensible. It's kind of a strange choice. When you have more material from Kamala Harris. Why wouldn't you air that. Instead of a Tim Walz interview, which no one cares about.

But he's on the ticket. Okay. Kind of defensible. The last 20 minutes of the show, was some produced piece about whether the Arizona election was stolen in 2020.

Like I -- and obviously, with the very heavy tilt, that it was not. And look at all these poor people that -- like campaign workers. Who got bad tweets sent to them. And things like that.

Like, you want to cover that. Right?

I don't see why it's really relevant right now. All right. Maybe you think it is.

But the idea that you would bump 15 minutes of a Kamala Harris interview with this context around it.

To air a pre-produced piece about what happened in the 2020 election in Arizona. What the hell is that -- that's the most insane decision of all time.

You want to throw stupid Tim Walz on there for a few minutes. Maybe you can defend that. Indefensible.

To leave 24 minutes on the cutting room floor of Kamala Harris.

When you're airing that. Air that another week. This is a prime time special.

This makes no sense at all.

GLENN: I would post your letter to the GM or the vice presidents of your local CBS stations.

I would post them on X.

Let people see that.

STU: Yeah. Tag us as well.

GLENN: Yeah. Tag the FCC. Make sure you tag the FCC.

STU: Note, as Glenn noted. The words, community, standards.

GLENN: Yeah. You're not serving your community.

STU: Serving your community.

GLENN: This is not helpful to our local community.

Because that's the directive, that they have to hit.

The SHOCKING TRUTH about Trump's McDonald’s appearance
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The SHOCKING TRUTH about Trump's McDonald’s appearance

Donald Trump recently stopped by a Pennsylvania McDonald’s to make French fries and work the drive thru. But, according to the media, this is actually a big scandal! It’s McDonaldsGate! - McGate? - And Glenn is here to expose it all: Did you know Trump didn’t ACTUALLY get a job at McDonald’s?! And those customers he served were – gasp! – screened beforehand! Can the media be any dumber, Glenn asks? Of course the customers were screened before meeting a man who has already survived 2 assassination attempts! But did the media see the crowd outside the venue? And do they really want to bring up “authenticity” when Kamala Harris is Trump’s opponent?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: All right. I have to get to this McDonald's gate. McDonald's gate is really bad, Stu.

STU: I know. What do you mean?

It was a nice moment. Here's a guy, who is a billionaire. Who goes through, the McDonald hiring process.

GLENN: Please, do not spread any more mis or disinformation.

Here's the audio of Trump, managing the drive-thru at a McDonald's. Okay?

DONALD: Well, that's a good-looking group. Hold on, everybody. This is not a normal situation.

What a good-looking family. How did you produce those good-looking kids? Oh, they look -- how are you?

Nice to see you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you!

And there will be no charge, is that okay? Oh. You're doing some extra stuff.

This is all on Trump.

I'm allowed to do that, right?

VOICE: It's everything you've ever said it would be.

DONALD: It better be. I made it myself.

GLENN: Now. As could you tell as that is. Here's, quote, working, end quote, the fryolator.

STU: Okay.

VOICE: Bring that one up. I will take care of these.

STU: He's training.

GLENN: And he's making fries. Making fries.

Okay. Now, I found out, after I was bamboozled, by this video.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: I found out today, from the press, that he didn't actually work at McDonald's.

STU: What did you mean? I just saw it --

GLENN: This was a, quote, publicity stunt.

STU: What do you mean a publicity stunt? I --

GLENN: No. No.

They -- the people in line, they were all hand selected. So they weren't just strangers driving up to the drive-thru.

STU: They weren't?


GLENN: No. No.

They checked to make sure they were the right people. And you know what I mean by right people.

STU: No.

GLENN: People without guns.

STU: Oh, my gosh. So they screened.

GLENN: They screened them. Has that ever happened to you at a McDonald's drive-thru.

STU: Glenn, I have to tell you, I worked at McDonald. That was my first job. At no point, did they screen customers to come up and make sure that they were people I liked, or supported me in any way. These were just random people who walked into the McDonald's. And came up and put in the order, that they wanted at that time.

GLENN: And I bet you, had to go through an application --

STU: Yes.

GLENN: -- situation.

STU: I had to do an interview.

GLENN: You didn't just walk in and say, I'm here to work at a McDonald's.

And then they hand you the apron. That's the way it happened with him!

STU: So he didn't take the test beforehand.

GLENN: He didn't take the McDonald's test.

STU: Well, they have a little, hey. Review thing.

If I remember back in the day.

GLENN: So it's kind of a test like, are you crazy? Are you going to shoot us?

STU: No, that's not required at all.

They didn't care about that. They just wanted to make sure that I could make the fries. This is a disgrace!

GLENN: It's a disgrace. Yeah. Yeah.

STU: After all I went through to get that job, he walks in there. By the way, you have to get up in the organization to be working the drive-thru. It's not the first thing he's doing.

GLENN: Skips all of it. Skips all of it.

STU: This is unbelievable.

GLENN: He is practically the president of McDonald's.

STU: How did they uncover this stuff?

GLENN: Good journalism. Good journalism.

STU: I guess so. And they're not saying the video is AI.

GLENN: No. It's real video.

STU: What a scam. I'm voting for Kamala Harris.

She's the only honest person who seeming has worked for McDonald's. But has no evidence of it whatsoever.

GLENN: No. We don't think that she worked for McDonald's.

She just doesn't have.

By the way, here is the crowd, in front of the McDonald's.

Look at this. My gosh.

STU: Thousands of people out there.

GLENN: I mean, thousands and thousands of people out there. I've never seen an election like this.

I mean, it is -- it is crazy. Is that not just nuts?

But it goes on and on and on.

STU: It really is an impressive crowd.

Look, Donald Trump does not have a problem to get crowds to go see him.

They love him.

GLENN: People stand across the street for McDonald's.

STU: I wish I was dedicated enough for he never to do that happen.

I can't think of anything. Maybe if they were releasing a new McFlurry. I might do something like that.

GLENN: By the way -- because I want to be fair and balanced. Let me put in this message. Cut five, please. This message from Kamala Harris.

KAMALA: And, look, we all see sing Happy Tunes and Merry Christmas. And wish each other Merry Christmas. These children are not going to have a Merry Christmas.

GLENN: Oh, no.

KAMALA: How dare we speak Merry Christmas. How dare we!

STU: Wow, that connects with me.

You know, that really pushes me toward her campaign. You know, I'm just like, wow. I also despise all of our traditions, and things that make me feel good about our country.

GLENN: Thank goodness, somebody has finally said it.

STU: Gosh, I feel so in line with Kamala Harris.

Now, that video is so would pop

I don't know why she doesn't bring it back up. It just connects.

Your Christmas memories are disgusting. She's revolted by your holiday.

GLENN: How dare you.

STU: Yeah. That's great.

GLENN: Here's cut 12.

KAMALA: Should never again, have the privilege of standing behind the seal of the president of the United States.

STU: God.

KAMALA: Never again!

STU: This is the typical Democrat mistake.

KAMALA: Never again. Never again.

STU: I have not heard word one from Hillary.

This is what -- you get more desperate from everyone behind. You're not being assertive enough. And now she's out there screaming with that voice.

GLENN: Do you have that one, where she's saying it like -- this was spontaneous.

STU: Oh, it was?

Okay.

GLENN: You just had the one up with like 12 boxes.

To the control room.

Yeah. Play this.

KAMALA: Behind the seal of the president.

GLENN: Look at.

KAMALA: Never again. Never again.

STU: Wait. It seems like she's saying the same thing in venue after venue after venue.

GLENN: Yeah. But she brings that anger with her all the time.

STU: She emphasizes things the same way.

That's strange.

GLENN: Yeah. He should never stand behind the seal of the president of the United States.

Never again! Never again!

STU: Such a dumb, dumb season.

Right?

It's like, I can't believe they're doing --

GLENN: We were the dummies. We fell for Donald Trump actually --

STU: That's what I meant, of course.

GLENN: Yeah. Such a dumb season.

How could we be that. Stupid.

STU: Are you a little surprised?

Because I think Democrats really looked at Hillary Clinton thing that should have been -- they should have won.

2016, they should have won that election. And blew it.

GLENN: They did no introspection.

There was no thought. Like, how did we lose this?

STU: See, I thought there was.

And that's why we started with joy. Right?

I know it was BS.

GLENN: No. I think they started with joy. Because I think that was actually said about the Republican Party.

Everybody was saying that.

STU: Saying what?

GLENN: They were saying, it was so joyful.

It was like happy, at the Republican convention.

STU: So they just copied them.

GLENN: And they were like, we can't let them have joy.

STU: You might be right.

I thought it was more related to the sort of approach that Biden brought to the table. And Hillary as well.

Which was this constant top five -- five alarm fire, sort of, oh, my gosh, get on the edge of your seat. Democracy is crumbling.

Blah, blah, blah. And they stayed away from that messaging for the first month or two of her campaign. Which was interesting.

GLENN: Here's the other thing.

And Donald Trump has captured it. I mean, this is a huge -- huge change.

Donald Trump has captured the magic, the -- the joy. The fun.

You know, while she's like.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: While she's doing that, he's having fun.

STU: Yeah. I feel like they tried the joy thing. Got a little burst.

It faded. Now they're realizing it's empty calories.

Now they're like, well, what do we do? And their only other page of the playbook is scream with the loss of democracy.

And I don't think that connects with the American people.

I really don't.

I feel like people are like, all right. We got it.

They might have really disliked everything that happened around the election.

January 6th, all those things.

But come up with an argument. Come up with an argument that's not just you repeating the same things you've been saying, every day since 2015.

Right?

It's not even since 2020.

It goes back to his initial things. He was stealing elections. Russia was helping him steal elections. Democracy is going to die. Vladimir Putin is going to come in and fix the voting. I mean, it's been constant. People are just bored of it. Bored.

And they don't believe it!

GLENN: Well, they don't believe it this time. Because she's so credible. Like yesterday when she went to church.

Yeah, did you see? She does this every Sunday. Here's cut four.

STU: Does she?

GLENN: Yeah. She walks in just to a church. And just kind of...

I'm just there to seek Jesus. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

I shouldn't have brought that up. Because it makes me think of saying Merry Christmas, for one.

STU: This is revolting. Celebrating the birth of Jesus say disgusting thing. But let me go to church real quick. It's so fake.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: So fake.