RADIOMay 12, 2022

Where’s Biden’s plan to fix baby formula shortages NOW?

We all knew there would be major consequences to shutting down America’s economy during the COVID pandemic, and now baby formula shortages have become one of those unintended results. So, with panicked parents searching for certain formulas throughout the U.S., why does it seem there’s a lack of urgency from the Biden administration to help fix the problem? Bethany Mandel, Contributing Writer for Deseret News, joins Glenn to explain how this shortage began, why it’s taking so long to fix, and why parents should NOT resort to making their own formula…

Transcript

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GLENN: Bethany Mandel. She's a contributing writing for the Deseret News. Editor of Heroes of Liberty book series, and the latest target. Last night of a man once known as Keith Olbermann.

I -- I mean -- that's still his name. But most people don't know his name anymore. We'll get into that here in a second. Bethany, welcome.

BETHANY: Thank you so much for having me.

GLENN: You bet. You bet. So we were talking about this yesterday in a meeting. And I don't understand it. The baby formula shortage. I don't know why nobody is doing anything, about it. And I don't -- I really -- this bothers me. That we're living in a country, that is now just expected to -- you know, get over it. You know -- and that's not America.

BETHANY: Oh, no, it's not.

GLENN: So what's happening with this?

Take us to the problem, to the possible solutions.

BETHANY: Sure. I mean, everyone is having supply chain issues across-the-board. Everything from lumber to, you know, the car chips.

GLENN: Yeah.

BETHANY: So it comes out, that there are consequences to shutting town your economy.

GLENN: No.

BETHANY: Shocking. Shocking, probably to all your listeners. But there are unintended consequences to such an action. And this is one of those unintended consequences. Almost 50 percent of the baby formula that is in America within used, is made in China. And Shanghai is locked down. And you can't get things on and off boats this to China. So there's a lot of that going on. There's a lot of staffing issues across-the-board. That are leading to -- you know, to drugstores and all these department stores having a hard time getting these things on the shelves. But the sort of major precipitating factor, is a massive recall at one of the biggest formula companies, called Abbott. And they found that there was a bacteria that made its way into the formula cans, that was extremely dangerous. Two babies died.

So it wasn't a super, duper overreaction on their part. But they decided to, in my personal opinion, do a recall that was maybe a little bit too broad. And they pulled a lot of formula off the shelves.

And there was no real plan for what -- how do we replace it, in the marketplace?

And so there's also not really been a plan to test the formula that they pulled off the shelves, to see if it was, in fact, safe.

GLENN: And it wasn't -- hang on just a second.

It wasn't that they just pulled this all off. They also shut the factory down. And the factory is still not operating.

BETHANY: Yes. Yes. Because they had to clean it. There was a section so severe, that it killed two babies, and hospitalized maybe six. So it was -- it was a really scary thing. And parents have Antonio that what they're feeding their baby is safe. This is the lack of urgency on what we see in the government. In so many ways, that we've really gotten a window into the last two years. A total lack of urgency, to treat this as -- as an emergency. One of my sort of favorite stories about this is, during covid, we learned that the vaccine was somewhat dangerous, to teenage boys. That it was causing heart issues. And the FDA scheduled meetings, three weeks away on Juneteenth. And then when Juneteenth became a national holiday. They were like, you know, we're going to honor that holiday. We'll just push back another few weeks. And so we were administering a vaccine to teenage boys that was potentially life-threatening to their hearts, and the vaccine pushed it off, for five weeks. And that sort of lack of urgency and government bureaucracy that we saw with hearts of teenage boys, we're seeing the same thing with formula right now.

GLENN: So, you know, what's crazy. This is why, you know, a centralized planning never works. It just never works.

BETHANY: Yep.

GLENN: Because the people in charge of all of it, that have to give the go aheads and everything else. They're government workers. And not necessarily the fastest or understand the concerns down -- down the line.

BETHANY: Let's be honest. We're the most competent, let's be honest.

Sat in the DMV before. And those are the people, right now, who are sitting on the manufacturers. Just like an inability to get food out.

GLENN: So what is the company waiting for, from the government?

BETHANY: I mean, they have to get the okay, that everything is safe, and that everything is sanitary. And that they can release everything that they've pulled off the shelves.

GLENN: So have they -- so they have completed. The company has completed everything, it was supposed to? We're just waiting for inspectors?

BETHANY: Basically, yes.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

BETHANY: So, I mean, they are ramping up. The issue is -- they are ramping up production. But they're afraid to sort of pour more money into it. Because then it will increase the cost of formula, which has already gone up significantly with inflation. So this is something the Biden administration can do. They can say, we will pay the difference. We will get more people in, so you're running 24/7. And we will foot the bill.

We just -- we need a formula -- affordable formula produced right now, today. And we will do whatever it takes to make that happen. Because this is the priority, and babies are -- our most precious natural resource. And you're not hearing that from the Biden administration.

GLENN: And you would be -- I'm quite surprised because that sounds like a public/private partnership. And they love those.

BETHANY: Yes. Yes.

GLENN: Okay. So what is it that parents can do? Because I'm seeing all these warnings. No. Don't do anything.

I'm not going to let my baby starve. And I'm pretty sure. You know, I was probably getting a little whisky in my nipple, when I was growing up with the bottle.

You know, they had to have done --

BETHANY: That explains a lot.

GLENN: It does explain a lot. But there had to be feeding our things, back in the day, before formula, that we can do again. Not for every child. The special needs children. But for the regular baby?

BETHANY: So I'm going to push back a little bit with you on that. So most regular babies, that don't have special needs, there's enough switching that you can do, that you can find an alternative. It's like the CDF brand, isn't in stock. You can get the Target brand. There's their wiggle room.

GLENN: Okay. So it's not a shortage -- oh, it's not a shortage for average babies as well.

BETHANY: So it is. But not nearly to the extent that it is for babies who are on special formula. The special formula shortage is particularly acute, and those are the majority of the parents that I'm hearing really panic. The parents, with the average baby, no health needs, just can take formula. They can -- they can go to different stores and usually find something in stock. Not saying that that's right. And that whatever.

GLENN: Yeah. But it's not a panic situation.

BETHANY: Right. Right. And I think that that's -- if I were that parent, that is what I would do. The formulation of formula, is really specific. And there are a lot of different minerals and nutrients that are in there. That you can't do at home.

Or you might not get precise. I spoke to a pedestrian transition in Texas. It is Whitney Morgan. And she told me, I see babies come into my office. And I see babies die, when I was working in a hospital. Their parents tried to stretch a formula can, and put more water in. And it messes up their electrolytes very quickly. And continuing lead to hospitalization and death. More easily than I think any people -- anyone wants to consider.

But also, one of the sort of scary things. You know, all of these recipes. And I sent her one of these recipes. And I said, what do you think about this?

Sort of break down the recipe. And she said, it is lacking in a couple of nutrients, that, you know, in the short-term will absolutely keep the baby alive. But in five months, we're going to notice some cognitive issues, that are now permanently in place, because the baby was not getting the brain food that they needed, basically.

So, you know, a lot of -- a lot of people, you know, grew up on this homemade formula. But a lot of people didn't grow up.

There is -- there's a lot of room for error. And we saw that room for error. What happened in the Abbott Formula Company. That they were -- they had the best safety policies in the world, and two babies died of the bacterial infection.

So I would really, really caution parents. Again, DIYing formula. Because it can go really wrong, really fast. And I think it's more dangerous than the shortage.

GLENN: Well, that's not the answer I wanted.

BETHANY: Sorry.

GLENN: But I'm glad that you told me the truth.

I mean, we don't understand, how blessed we have been. As we're losing things. Nobody thinks of baby formula as -- you know, this is -- this is -- if this would become acute, for a long period of time, it would change our society. A lot of babies would die. Or, I mean, it's -- you don't even think of that. Because we're so used to having that.

BETHANY: Absolutely. One of the first things -- I have five kids. And I mostly -- I also understand that life happens. And one of the first things I did, when covid started. Was buy a couple of cans of formula, just in case. We saw things flying off the shelves.

And I was like, you know what, you can have a couple cans. I'm breast-feeding my baby right now. But life happens. Things can change. And this is one thing, that I'm scared of -- I'm scared of flying off the shelves.

GLENN: Uh-huh. Okay.

Let me switch topics. You were -- can you give me the tweet here, Stu, from Keith Olbermann. I don't know -- I guess he's just sad in his nursing home tweeting things out. But he came after you yesterday.

BETHANY: Yeah. Mother's Day actually.

STU: Mother's Day.

GLENN: Oh, Mother's Day. Yeah, that's good. Perfect.

STU: After Bethany had responded to a Steve Schmidt Tweet, Keith Olbermann said, I imagine putting homeschool mom in your bio, and not understanding you just ruined the lives of five innocent children.

(laughter)

This guy is the worst.

GLENN: That's incredible.

BETHANY: Yeah. I mean, he's like a really bad human being, honestly. We have this sort of saying in Yiddish, like neva, like this, oh, poor soul. That's honestly how I feel about him. I don't know if you remember, he went after Mitt Romney, at Christmastime last year. Romney posted a picture of his beautiful, enormous family, that's perfect in every way. And he tweeted something like, this is my worst nightmare, or something. That really says a lot about you.

GLENN: That's sad. That's really sad. And anybody who can't see that homeschooling -- I mean, just what we've learned about the teacher's unions and CRT and SEL, all of these things. How do you not see, that putting your kids in the wrong school, is much, much worse. Much worse.

BETHANY: Yes. Yeah. I worked at Montgomery, Maryland. And the test scores that had been released over what happened in the last two years. Are mind-blowing.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BETHANY: The abilities of children in middle school to do math, went from like, they were testing at like, 60, 70 percent. To about 5 percent. On -- on level.

And that's across-the-board.

GLENN: I know. I will tell you, I'm having a hard time with my kids in high school.

Because they're just -- they just -- it's like they just lost -- I don't know. Well, they did. Lost two years.

And it -- they're just -- just struggling so hard to get anything back.

We've just destroyed a generation.

BETHANY: We absolutely have.

GLENN: Thank you so much. I appreciate it, Bethany. God bless.

BETHANY: Yeah. Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. You can find her at her website, heroesofliberty.com. Heroesofliberty.com. Or follow her @BethanyShondark. Bethany Shondark.

Shocking train video: Passengers wait while woman bleeds out

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.