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RADIOMay 12, 2022

Where’s Biden’s plan to fix baby formula shortages NOW?

We all knew there would be major consequences to shutting down America’s economy during the COVID pandemic, and now baby formula shortages have become one of those unintended results. So, with panicked parents searching for certain formulas throughout the U.S., why does it seem there’s a lack of urgency from the Biden administration to help fix the problem? Bethany Mandel, Contributing Writer for Deseret News, joins Glenn to explain how this shortage began, why it’s taking so long to fix, and why parents should NOT resort to making their own formula…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Bethany Mandel. She's a contributing writing for the Deseret News. Editor of Heroes of Liberty book series, and the latest target. Last night of a man once known as Keith Olbermann.

I -- I mean -- that's still his name. But most people don't know his name anymore. We'll get into that here in a second. Bethany, welcome.

BETHANY: Thank you so much for having me.

GLENN: You bet. You bet. So we were talking about this yesterday in a meeting. And I don't understand it. The baby formula shortage. I don't know why nobody is doing anything, about it. And I don't -- I really -- this bothers me. That we're living in a country, that is now just expected to -- you know, get over it. You know -- and that's not America.

BETHANY: Oh, no, it's not.

GLENN: So what's happening with this?

Take us to the problem, to the possible solutions.

BETHANY: Sure. I mean, everyone is having supply chain issues across-the-board. Everything from lumber to, you know, the car chips.

GLENN: Yeah.

BETHANY: So it comes out, that there are consequences to shutting town your economy.

GLENN: No.

BETHANY: Shocking. Shocking, probably to all your listeners. But there are unintended consequences to such an action. And this is one of those unintended consequences. Almost 50 percent of the baby formula that is in America within used, is made in China. And Shanghai is locked down. And you can't get things on and off boats this to China. So there's a lot of that going on. There's a lot of staffing issues across-the-board. That are leading to -- you know, to drugstores and all these department stores having a hard time getting these things on the shelves. But the sort of major precipitating factor, is a massive recall at one of the biggest formula companies, called Abbott. And they found that there was a bacteria that made its way into the formula cans, that was extremely dangerous. Two babies died.

So it wasn't a super, duper overreaction on their part. But they decided to, in my personal opinion, do a recall that was maybe a little bit too broad. And they pulled a lot of formula off the shelves.

And there was no real plan for what -- how do we replace it, in the marketplace?

And so there's also not really been a plan to test the formula that they pulled off the shelves, to see if it was, in fact, safe.

GLENN: And it wasn't -- hang on just a second.

It wasn't that they just pulled this all off. They also shut the factory down. And the factory is still not operating.

BETHANY: Yes. Yes. Because they had to clean it. There was a section so severe, that it killed two babies, and hospitalized maybe six. So it was -- it was a really scary thing. And parents have Antonio that what they're feeding their baby is safe. This is the lack of urgency on what we see in the government. In so many ways, that we've really gotten a window into the last two years. A total lack of urgency, to treat this as -- as an emergency. One of my sort of favorite stories about this is, during covid, we learned that the vaccine was somewhat dangerous, to teenage boys. That it was causing heart issues. And the FDA scheduled meetings, three weeks away on Juneteenth. And then when Juneteenth became a national holiday. They were like, you know, we're going to honor that holiday. We'll just push back another few weeks. And so we were administering a vaccine to teenage boys that was potentially life-threatening to their hearts, and the vaccine pushed it off, for five weeks. And that sort of lack of urgency and government bureaucracy that we saw with hearts of teenage boys, we're seeing the same thing with formula right now.

GLENN: So, you know, what's crazy. This is why, you know, a centralized planning never works. It just never works.

BETHANY: Yep.

GLENN: Because the people in charge of all of it, that have to give the go aheads and everything else. They're government workers. And not necessarily the fastest or understand the concerns down -- down the line.

BETHANY: Let's be honest. We're the most competent, let's be honest.

Sat in the DMV before. And those are the people, right now, who are sitting on the manufacturers. Just like an inability to get food out.

GLENN: So what is the company waiting for, from the government?

BETHANY: I mean, they have to get the okay, that everything is safe, and that everything is sanitary. And that they can release everything that they've pulled off the shelves.

GLENN: So have they -- so they have completed. The company has completed everything, it was supposed to? We're just waiting for inspectors?

BETHANY: Basically, yes.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.

BETHANY: So, I mean, they are ramping up. The issue is -- they are ramping up production. But they're afraid to sort of pour more money into it. Because then it will increase the cost of formula, which has already gone up significantly with inflation. So this is something the Biden administration can do. They can say, we will pay the difference. We will get more people in, so you're running 24/7. And we will foot the bill.

We just -- we need a formula -- affordable formula produced right now, today. And we will do whatever it takes to make that happen. Because this is the priority, and babies are -- our most precious natural resource. And you're not hearing that from the Biden administration.

GLENN: And you would be -- I'm quite surprised because that sounds like a public/private partnership. And they love those.

BETHANY: Yes. Yes.

GLENN: Okay. So what is it that parents can do? Because I'm seeing all these warnings. No. Don't do anything.

I'm not going to let my baby starve. And I'm pretty sure. You know, I was probably getting a little whisky in my nipple, when I was growing up with the bottle.

You know, they had to have done --

BETHANY: That explains a lot.

GLENN: It does explain a lot. But there had to be feeding our things, back in the day, before formula, that we can do again. Not for every child. The special needs children. But for the regular baby?

BETHANY: So I'm going to push back a little bit with you on that. So most regular babies, that don't have special needs, there's enough switching that you can do, that you can find an alternative. It's like the CDF brand, isn't in stock. You can get the Target brand. There's their wiggle room.

GLENN: Okay. So it's not a shortage -- oh, it's not a shortage for average babies as well.

BETHANY: So it is. But not nearly to the extent that it is for babies who are on special formula. The special formula shortage is particularly acute, and those are the majority of the parents that I'm hearing really panic. The parents, with the average baby, no health needs, just can take formula. They can -- they can go to different stores and usually find something in stock. Not saying that that's right. And that whatever.

GLENN: Yeah. But it's not a panic situation.

BETHANY: Right. Right. And I think that that's -- if I were that parent, that is what I would do. The formulation of formula, is really specific. And there are a lot of different minerals and nutrients that are in there. That you can't do at home.

Or you might not get precise. I spoke to a pedestrian transition in Texas. It is Whitney Morgan. And she told me, I see babies come into my office. And I see babies die, when I was working in a hospital. Their parents tried to stretch a formula can, and put more water in. And it messes up their electrolytes very quickly. And continuing lead to hospitalization and death. More easily than I think any people -- anyone wants to consider.

But also, one of the sort of scary things. You know, all of these recipes. And I sent her one of these recipes. And I said, what do you think about this?

Sort of break down the recipe. And she said, it is lacking in a couple of nutrients, that, you know, in the short-term will absolutely keep the baby alive. But in five months, we're going to notice some cognitive issues, that are now permanently in place, because the baby was not getting the brain food that they needed, basically.

So, you know, a lot of -- a lot of people, you know, grew up on this homemade formula. But a lot of people didn't grow up.

There is -- there's a lot of room for error. And we saw that room for error. What happened in the Abbott Formula Company. That they were -- they had the best safety policies in the world, and two babies died of the bacterial infection.

So I would really, really caution parents. Again, DIYing formula. Because it can go really wrong, really fast. And I think it's more dangerous than the shortage.

GLENN: Well, that's not the answer I wanted.

BETHANY: Sorry.

GLENN: But I'm glad that you told me the truth.

I mean, we don't understand, how blessed we have been. As we're losing things. Nobody thinks of baby formula as -- you know, this is -- this is -- if this would become acute, for a long period of time, it would change our society. A lot of babies would die. Or, I mean, it's -- you don't even think of that. Because we're so used to having that.

BETHANY: Absolutely. One of the first things -- I have five kids. And I mostly -- I also understand that life happens. And one of the first things I did, when covid started. Was buy a couple of cans of formula, just in case. We saw things flying off the shelves.

And I was like, you know what, you can have a couple cans. I'm breast-feeding my baby right now. But life happens. Things can change. And this is one thing, that I'm scared of -- I'm scared of flying off the shelves.

GLENN: Uh-huh. Okay.

Let me switch topics. You were -- can you give me the tweet here, Stu, from Keith Olbermann. I don't know -- I guess he's just sad in his nursing home tweeting things out. But he came after you yesterday.

BETHANY: Yeah. Mother's Day actually.

STU: Mother's Day.

GLENN: Oh, Mother's Day. Yeah, that's good. Perfect.

STU: After Bethany had responded to a Steve Schmidt Tweet, Keith Olbermann said, I imagine putting homeschool mom in your bio, and not understanding you just ruined the lives of five innocent children.

(laughter)

This guy is the worst.

GLENN: That's incredible.

BETHANY: Yeah. I mean, he's like a really bad human being, honestly. We have this sort of saying in Yiddish, like neva, like this, oh, poor soul. That's honestly how I feel about him. I don't know if you remember, he went after Mitt Romney, at Christmastime last year. Romney posted a picture of his beautiful, enormous family, that's perfect in every way. And he tweeted something like, this is my worst nightmare, or something. That really says a lot about you.

GLENN: That's sad. That's really sad. And anybody who can't see that homeschooling -- I mean, just what we've learned about the teacher's unions and CRT and SEL, all of these things. How do you not see, that putting your kids in the wrong school, is much, much worse. Much worse.

BETHANY: Yes. Yeah. I worked at Montgomery, Maryland. And the test scores that had been released over what happened in the last two years. Are mind-blowing.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BETHANY: The abilities of children in middle school to do math, went from like, they were testing at like, 60, 70 percent. To about 5 percent. On -- on level.

And that's across-the-board.

GLENN: I know. I will tell you, I'm having a hard time with my kids in high school.

Because they're just -- they just -- it's like they just lost -- I don't know. Well, they did. Lost two years.

And it -- they're just -- just struggling so hard to get anything back.

We've just destroyed a generation.

BETHANY: We absolutely have.

GLENN: Thank you so much. I appreciate it, Bethany. God bless.

BETHANY: Yeah. Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. You can find her at her website, heroesofliberty.com. Heroesofliberty.com. Or follow her @BethanyShondark. Bethany Shondark.

Dad WARNS parents: 'Government TRANSITIONED my daughter'

Glenn recently exposed just how dire the battle for parental rights against tyrannical governments in America has become. You can watch this full episode of Glenn TV here: Parental Advisory: The EXPLICIT Plot ... But the situation is even worse in Canada. Glenn speaks with a father, who wished to remain anonymous, who has spent years battling his government over simple parental rights. Ultimately, he was "hauled in" for refusing to "affirm" his daughter's gender, something the government called "family violence." Then, he was thrown in prison for refusing to obey the government's attempt to silence him. But that didn't deter him. He joins Glenn to tell his story and warn American parents that this Leftist tyranny is coming for them as well: "The world needs to know what’s happening to their kids in darkness."

Transcript

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GLENN: Just going to call you dad, on the program. Dad, how you are?

DAD: I'm good, how you are today?

GLENN: I'm good. Didn't expect you to sound this great. You have gone through hell for the last three or four years.

DAD: Yes.

GLENN: How did it start?

DAD: It started with my daughter in the public schools. They're -- they passed a program here called SOGI123. Stands for sexual orientation, gender identity.

And what that is, is it -- supposedly, they called it an anti-bullying program. But it's actually a policy. And what happens in the schools, they're essentially telling kids, you can be -- you know, you can be homosexual. You can be lesbian. You can be bisexual. All the letters of the alphabet of LGBT. And when my daughter went to school, it was when the pilot program was initiated.

And so she was indoctrinated among the first in his program. So that's kind of where it all started. So she had mental health issues. I knew that. But the school decided, we're going to direct her, towards being transgender. Because at that time, that's how they -- how they dealt with all mental health problems with children. Was just to transgender them.

GLENN: Jeez.

DAD: And the idea behind that. It sort of, to me, reminds me of a video game. Where you have avatars.

And these kids will sit there for hours, creating their perfect character. So now you have these adults, these perverted adults coming at your child and telling them, hey, if you're not happy being a girl, create your own -- whoever you want to be. Be an avatar. Forget about that sad girl. Become a boy.

Of course, this is a very -- alluring to them, right?

This will solve all their problems. That's where it all started in the schools.

Where I caught on, was fairly early on.

I didn't realize the extent of it all.

But at one point, you know, my daughter went to see a psychologist, who goes by the name Dr. IJ. These are publication names of all of these doctors. Because they're clearly so proud of what they do, that they're hiding behind confidential badges at this point. But I thought, you know, this is great. This person is going to fix this.

Clearly, my daughter is not a boy trapped in a girl's body. That's impossible.

But instead, he -- he went affirm. Affirm. Affirm.

And the next thing you know, my daughter is headed to the BC children's hospital here. In August of 2018.

And on her first visit. They will pump her full of testosterone.

I'm like, this is crazy.

My ex-wife gives me a call. I said, okay. I'll put a stop to it.

So they sent me what was called an Informed Consent Form. Which I find out later, it doesn't mean much.

Of course, my daughter was talking to -- my ex-wife signed it. I read it, and I refuse. It's talking about all the irreversible changes. You know, lowered voice. Increase growth of hair.

GLENN: Sterilization.

DAD: And sterilization.

And what this thing goes on to say, at the end, which is probably the whole thing, is that it says, the mental effects and safety of testosterone are actually not fully understood.

And there may be some risks that are not yet known.

It's in their consent form.

They're asking my daughter to consent to this stuff. Of course I said no.

So they have been asking for four or five months. So I finally get a letter in the mail, in December of 2018, and it's from the children's hospital. And they say, we don't need your consent. We're going to give her testosterone anyway, under something in British Columbia called the Infant Act. And you have two weeks to file in court.

GLENN: The Infant Act?

DAD: They call it the Infant Act in British Columbia.

GLENN: And wait. Wait. How old is your daughter at this time?

DAD: At this time, she's fourteen.

GLENN: Okay. This started when she was 11.

DAD: I would say around 11. Grade four and five.

GLENN: And she's not an infant now. I just want to make sure, she's not an infant.

DAD: No. Currently, she will turn 19 in October.

So that tells you how long I've been battling this. She's -- she's finally not going to be an infant and a minor soon.

But -- so, anyway, so I take it to court. Because I'm thinking. They will forget about the LGBTQ component of this.

You don't medically do something like this to a child, to a minor.

You know, I don't have feeling in my arm, so I will just have it cut off. Well, you don't let kids do this stuff. But, boy, did I have a wake-up call.

To find out what I was in the middle of.

And so, yeah. I filed, what they called a notice of motion. In BC provincial court in December of 2018, and it led to five years in the courts.

GLENN: And you went to prison, why?

DAD: Went to prison, as you mentioned. Yeah, that's sort of phase two of the story. The first part has to do with my actual battle to save my daughter from being a victim of all of this stuff. Of -- of the cross-sex hormones and the puberty blockers. And so what happened, in court, in January, the -- the judge said that, you know, for me to misgender my daughter, for example, was going to be considered family violence. All of these crazy things came out. I was not allowed to dissuade her from -- I can only affirm, affirm, affirm. Or that was family violence. So all of these rules were suddenly put on. Which pretty much eliminated my ability to parent her on this issue at all.

And so what I did, is -- I spoke with the Federalist after that ruling. And I said to the Federalist. I said, well, it's a delusion.

I'm going to keep calling my daughter a daughter if that's the reality. I don't care if the court is telling me to lie.

And so I was called in for family violence, under another judge. And then this is where they added all of the stuff, where I could be arrested again. There's a protection order on me, that says I could be arrested without warrant. Came up to the police.

And --

GLENN: For what? What do you mean? Arrested for warrant? For what?

DAD: Arrested if someone thought I was misgendering my daughter, or not affirming her.

So it was really kind of vague. It was really vague. And it showed you the power that the transgendered activists really had on this province. Probably in some sense, they still do. Although, things are changing, just like they are in the United States. That they could get away with something like this.

GLENN: Slowly.

DAD: Now, where the change kind of came in, and I should hit on this quickly.

The National Post, the big newspaper out here in January for this, when the court case was starting.

They put out a front page article on it.
You know, Who decides?

The parent, the doctor.

Now, the problem is, they tried to put my daughter on a pedestal. Because that had worked well for the transgender activist, to shame the father, but you do it publicly.

But the problem was, all the comments, at the end of the story, were supporting my position, and they were really going after the trends. And so this is when they thought, okay. New tactic.

We won't do it this more anymore. We will -- we will shut the story down.

They're not allowed to know what's going on. Because they will not end well for us. This will end -- and that's essentially, what they've tried to do.

GLENN: And so there was a gag order against you.

You would be sent to prison, if you violated the gag order. And spoke to any press member, or was it anybody, about what you were going through?

DAD: The honest truth, and this may sound super crazy. But my gag order actually said in it, that I could only speak to my two lawyers. Not even my parents or my family about this matter. Only my two lawyers. Said it's considered a privileged conversation over my daughter.

GLENN: This is insane. This is insane.

DAD: That's how bad it got. We appalled all of this. In the Court of Appeals. And we did go into the Court of Appeals, back in -- September of 2019. And we got a bit of a whiff. Five months later, and in that ruling, the BC Court of Appeals said, well, we're going to take away the protection order. We're going to make it a civil order. Instead of a criminal one.

And they also said, I do have the right to dissuade my daughter from being transgender. They said, we're taking away the affirmation model.

And they also said, yeah. Under the infant act, the parents don't get to decide, what their child wants to do. But neither does the child. Essentially what they said, it's on the shoulders of the doctors alone.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

DAD: So the doctors here in BC decide, whether your child transitions or not. The good news, when this contagion possibly comes to an end, which it will, there will be a lot of law cases, you know, a lot of girls being turned into boys that now have a right to sue that doctor, and say, hey, you know, why did you transition me? I didn't really know what I was talking about. And yet, you thought I was doing the right thing.

And this is the reason why I fight this so hard. Is because, you know, my daughter will never be able to come to me, personally. And say, hey, Dad. Why did you rush me down to the gender clinic?

And I'll say, I did. The opposite. I tried to save you from going to the gender clinically.

But you were rushed there from the government.

GLENN: Go ahead.

DAD: Keep in mind. In this case. It's not about parental rights at all. It's the government that transitioned my daughter. It has nothing to do with me or my ex-wife. What our positions were.

It was the government itself, which is different than what's happening in the US where they were handing off kids to the parent that will transition.

GLENN: All right.

DAD: That doesn't need to matter.

GLENN: Do you have any relationship with her now?

DAD: I don't right now. And I can tell you a bit what happened. This is a part of what they do over there on the far left. Is my daughter would sneak over to my place. And she would have to tell the -- the -- my ex-wife, her mom. That she was visiting friends at school.

And, of course, the lesbian activist lawyer Robert Finley attached as the lawyer for my daughter. And so what happened is my daughter at one point came and said to me, and said, Dad, I can't come over to see you anymore. And I asked her, why is that?

She said, well, they're giving me a choice. He said, if I keep seeing you, they won't fight for me to get microphones at his house.

So they said -- so essentially they bribed her. They said, pick your Dad, or pick -- becoming a boy.

And I haven't heard from her since. I guess she chose to become a boy. This is what they do with these kids. These vulnerable kids. Is they really gang up and bully on these kids.

And to get them to transition. And it's -- yeah. My daughter was a complete victim. But, again, this also destroys families. And I think that's also part of -- the intention. Is to destroy families as well. So to answer the question, I haven't seen her. Not since Christmas of 2019. The last time I saw her.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

Let me if I can just tell you, that amazing things happen over time.

My daughter went to Fordham University. And I was working in New York at the time. And they totally flipped her against me. I mean, totally flipped her against me.

I was a bigot, because I wouldn't agree with gay marriage. I had never been against gay marriage. I'm more of a Libertarian on this. I just don't think the government has any right to be in anybody's marriage, period.

And she was convinced because they held rallies against me and everything else, at her school.

DAD: Oh, wow.

GLENN: And I thought I had lost her forever. And after a while of getting out of school, and being, you know -- just being, you know, out from underneath thumb, she began to see things differently, and we're very close today.

So hopefully, it won't last forever. It will just be an agonizing time you lose with your daughter. And I'm sorry for that. Go ahead.

DAD: Yeah. And that's encouraging. Because, you know, that's -- I go through this with my conscience clean. And I hope that, you know, my arms are wide open, waiting for her to come back. After, you know, she's done whatever she's doing. Which is terrible. Which is terrible for herself.

But, you know, I'm waiting here for her. And I would like to think that at the end of the day, it will be those that affirmed her, she will resent. And she will appreciate what I tried to do for her. Even though I didn't succeed for her.

Obviously, I'm so thrilled, as what I'm seeing, as we are succeeding in countries around the world.

You know, in Europe, obviously the United States. How many states. And even in Canada. Our federal government. Or sorry, not government.

But, you know, they passed a resolution. One of them being that they will never allow anyone of the age of 18, to medically transition.

And so, so hopefully they do. They're up in the polls right now, people want this stuff.

But -- but anyways, I guess this goes to the second part of -- of my story in some ways.

I went through the first half pretty quickly.

But so -- so we had this ruling on the BC court of appeal.

And we're debating whether to appeal that to the Supreme Court of Canada.

In fact, we kind of worked on it.

And any time decided, well, we sort of got this, to see the doctors down the road.

Let's just leave it, because the -- the -- the -- the federal court, in Canada, is pretty loaded up with left-leaning judges. And so we thought, well, we probably would do better for a repeal going forward. So at that point, I fired my two lawyers. Not because of this. But because to protect them.

So I fired my two lawyers. Got them off the record. And I said, okay. Well, that's the end of the line, legally for the moment.

I'm going to protect them. And I'm going to break all these gag orders. You know, the world needs to know, what's happening to their kids in darkness in these schools.

You know, as an example, that came out in affidavits, when my daughter changed her name, from her female name to a male name, I was under the impression, that this was by her design. No. It was the school counselor, that changed her name.

Judge tries to take down Trump with RIDICULOUS Mar-a-Lago ruling

A New York court has ruled that former president Donald Trump and some of his children have committed fraud for years, in part by inflating the value of Trump's properties. But Glenn has his doubts about the judge's ruling, specifically because he ruled that Mar-A-Lago is only worth $18 million. Glenn and Stu compare that ridiculous Mar-a-Lago ruling to the prices of much smaller and way less historic houses and condos in the Palm Beach area — and it only makes it more obvious that this is just another attempt to take down Trump.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: A New York court ruled Tuesday. Boy, I have to tell you.

If I were in New York, or I were in Washington, DC, or any of these blue states, I would be thinking, I should probably leave here.

Because I don't think I can get a fair trial.

New York court ruled Tuesday, that former President Donald Trump had committed fraud for years, to build his fortune.

New York judge Arthur Engoron, ruled in a civil case, brought by New York Attorney General James.

Now, this is the one that was like, I'm going to get him! I'm going to get him!

So --

STU: That's what she ran.

GLENN: That's what she ran on.

Not the little dog as well. But she did run --

STU: She didn't specify the size of the dog. That's true.

GLENN: That's exactly right. Okay.

So the -- the court system, and the -- the DA decided, not to prosecute. Okay?

They decided --

STU: Alvin brag.

GLENN: Yeah. Alvin brag. They decided not to prosecute.

Police, the southern district of energetic. FBI. No one took this on. Because they didn't think there was anything there.

So she decides to go to civil court, to take them on.

Now she found a judge, that will say, that he engaged in fraud.

Now, do I think that Donald Trump inflated numbers of his wealth?

Yes. Yes. I do.

STU: Really? Now, what evidence do you have?

GLENN: Well, everything. Pretty much everything.

STU: Now, it's totally fine to do that publicly. Totally fine is not the right. It's not illegal to say you have $10 billion. When you have $2 billion. Whatever.

I'm not saying that's what he did.

You can say that. You can say, you're the wealthiest person in the world. When you're not publicly, at a press conference. And there's no crime being committed.

GLENN: But I will tell you, if you're misstating things intentionally.

That is called fraud.

STU: Especially when you do it on documents, over and over and over again to banks. And insurance companies.

GLENN: Now, I don't know about you. But I've never lied on my banking statements when I go to get a loan. Because they generally check those things out.

STU: I would be terrified to do so.

GLENN: Right. Right.

STU: Now, you have the reputation.

And, again, I don't know if this was Trump specifically. This was about his organization.

It could be one of his other executives doing it.

It does seem like it was done often

When you're Donald Trump, you have a reputation of being Donald Trump. Being very wealthy. Everything is the most grandiose thing in the world. There's probably not much questioning. Right?

GLENN: Really? They will give you a $250 million loan and not check it out?

STU: Are they going to check out the square footage of his apartment?

Probably not, right?

GLENN: So -- so -- so the judge said yesterday, that Mar-a-Lago -- he overstated the price.

STU: Just a tad.

GLENN: Just a tad. He said, it's worth $18 million.

STU: I think it was the other way around. He said it was worth more for this particular.

GLENN: No. No. No.

The judge said it was only worth 18 million.

STU: Okay.

It was he --

GLENN: Yeah. No Trump said --

STU: 700 million, I think.

GLENN: Yeah. And he did put probably $100 million into that place.

And it is also a legacy property.

I mean, it's not going for $18 million.

STU: Now, I'm going to say, neither one may be correct. If I were to say, which one is closer to its actual value. I would say, $700 million.

GLENN: I would too.

I mean, it could be worth 200, 300, 500 million. It's not worth 25 million, or 7 million. There's no way.

STU: Right. No! There's no way. How many square feet, is it?

GLENN: I don't even know.

It's this entire peninsula, that goes out of this land bridge, in west palm. I don't know if you can get an apartment for $80 million. Right on the water. Both sides.

STU: Right. A normal 4,000 square foot house, which I would assume is pretty small, right?

For West Palm Beach, but probably like, the average McMansion in Florida is 4,000.

GLENN: Maybe. Maybe.

STU: I'm just guestimating here. But a 4,000 square foot house in West Palm Beach is already, got to be, 4 million, $5 million.

GLENN: Go to realtor.com. Find out.

STU: There you go. By the way, 126 rooms. He took down to 500 square feet at Mar-a-Lago. And it's a business.

GLENN: All right. 62,000 square feet. Okay.

With both sides on the ocean. This has and golf courses. Right?

GLENN: Yeah.

And it's -- it's got a banquet room.

It is -- I mean, it's crazy.

STU: Could you convince me it's only worth 300 million.

Yeah. Maybe. But it's not worth 18.

GLENN: So this is a 50-year-old movie studio. Okay?

Fifty-year-old movie studio.

I mean, it is a historic site in Texas now, but it's not like Mar-a-Lago.

STU: No. The one we're sitting in right now.

GLENN: The one we're sitting in right now. It's maybe worth $50 million. Okay? $50 million. You're telling me, I could have had Mar-a-Lago.

I think I would have taken Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Did they really say $18 million is the right number?

GLENN: That's what the judge said, $18 million.

STU: And that's completely absurd. What year were they talking about?

In 1945, maybe it's worth $18 million.

GLENN: It's crazy.

STU: That's really, legitimately nuts.

West Palm Beach is one of the most expensive areas in the entire country.

It is obviously like, this is a place where super wealthy people run away from other wealthy people.

When they're annoyed with low class wealthy people, they go to west Palm Beach.

GLENN: Right. So let me go to any price listing. Where can I get rooms -- I mean, I could get from high to low.

It doesn't necessarily do that. That's ridiculous. High to low.

STU: I love how Glenn's head is attempting tasks. This is how it will work.

GLENN: Thank you. I will put a minimum of 5 million. $5 million is the minimum I want to see.

Okay. So let's -- all right.

So I have a three-bedroom. Three and a half bath for 7.8 million. That's a condo overlooking, okay?

I have another condo for 6.1.

STU: Do they have the footage listed or no?

GLENN: Yeah. 2000 square feet.

STU: 2000 square feet. And how many millions --

GLENN: 6.1.

STU: But you can get Mar-a-Lago for three times the cost? Wow.

GLENN: Yeah. I have a 1-acre lot. Okay?

It has -- it shows a picture of the house. But I have a feeling, the house is so horrible.

You know how they do that. Look at this. And they're selling it as a lot, and not a house.

8.4. A 1 acre lot. How many acres is Mar-a-Lago.

STU: That's a good question.

GLENN: A lot.

STU: It was 1980. The cost.

Let's see. Looking here. 17-acre state.

That's the federal foundation.

Yeah. It's hard to -- looks like 17 acres.

But there's a 3.2-acre plot. Which has nothing on it. It's just grass.

Currently listed for $200 million. It is -- it is a --

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: It's a very nice plot of land.

GLENN: Right.

STU: However, you know, you wouldn't think that just land would be 240 -- they haven't sold it yet.

It could be one of those e Bay things where it hasn't sold.

GLENN: Where I have a five-bedroom, five and a half bath, five thousand square feet, and half an acre.

STU: Okay. So this is what you might throw at, as a McMansion. Right? A very nice, big house. Not a ton of land.

GLENN: Right. A half an acre.

STU: The house fits, but barely.

GLENN: Uh-huh. Yes.

STU: How much are they asking for that?

GLENN: 11.9.

I'm -- I'm just saying.

STU: It's an expensive area.

GLENN: There's a condo here for five thousands of individuals square feet. Four bedroom. Five and a half bath. No land.

8.4. There is a condo. Six bedroom condo.

Six bedroom, seven and a half bath. 9,232 square feet.

And that's 39 million.

STU: I mean, come on. The claim is that the Palm Beach county assessor had appraised Mar-a-Lago between 18 million and 27.6 million.

Now, the assessors a lot of times, have strange values on homes, right? Have you ever noticed that? Again, you're not doing this yourself.

You're looking at someone else, assessing your home.

And it doesn't always align with what Zillow says.

So that would necessarily be fraud. You have to believe, it's much, much closer -- I mean, $426.5 for Mar-a-Lago, which was their low -- low end value that Trump had put it at.

GLENN: Is reasonable. Reasonable.

STU: Seems reasonable. Again, I've never bought anything in the nine figures. Never made a 9-figure purchase.

GLENN: Really?

STU: But I would assume.

GLENN: I make them all the time.

STU: Yeah, you might make them all the time. I'm trying to -- you have to understand. I'm saying to the audience, you have to understand. So the audience understands. Trying to get Glenn to understand, not everyone makes -- you know, a nine-figure purchase, look, the difference between 100 and 400 million for the average person. Might be difficult to -- how would you even figure that out, without going to some expert?

I have to believe, just back at the envelope. $400 million seems pretty reasonable for Mar-a-Lago. It's probably around where it is.

It couldn't possibly be 18 million. That is bonkers!

And anyone who knows anything about real estate would say that.

Yet, everybody in the media, I have heard talk about this story, as quoted in the overstatement of 2300 percent -- from -- from Letitia James.

Which is kind of -- it's bonkers.

GLENN: So, anyway, they are breaking his companies up now. The -- the court has taken control.

And has assigned people to take over the company. And break it apart.

And I don't know. Sell the assets off. I guess that's what you do.

If anybody is in the -- in the market for a really huge, really huge house, that also has beachfront property on both sides of it, you might be able to get a deal soon.

STU: Well, this is a no longer based ruling. What is in danger, are his New York properties.

Which is the gulf in Westchester. Trump Tower.

GLENN: It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

STU: They're really going after all of it. And trying to get him to force his control to be gone.

Eric is the one to run the company right now. And he would be out.

GLENN: This is why we have always, always done well, in America.

Because you could count automate law to be consistent.

Nobody -- in my lifetime, I never heard, you know, stories, day after day. Where I went, wow. Never heard that done before.

Never. And that's why people invested in America.

That's why companies were built here in America. Because somebody just couldn't take it away from you.

STU: That's why you don't want to do business in Venezuela.

GLENN: Exactly right.

They can take it away. They can accuse you of something, and take it away.

And the law did not really matter. The law was just a player, in somebody's curio cabinet.

And that's exactly what's happening now in America. You want to destroy somebody.

No, you can destroy them. Destroy their whole life.

It's really sick.

Glenn SHOCKED at how FAST everyone abandoned Russell Brand

London's Metropolitan Police force has opened an investigation into accusations made against comedian Russell Brand. This comes after the BBC, Brand's publisher and talent agency, sponsors like Burger King, and even the British Parliament have come after or abandoned him based solely on allegations. Glenn argues that while we still don't know the truth about whether Brand is guilty or not, it's shocking to see just how fast and viciously everyone has abandoned him. Is this the global elites' way of punishing him for speaking out against their plans? Glenn also reviews a similar story about NFL star Chandler Jones, who claims he was taken against his will to a mental health hospital by the Las Vegas fire department, injected, and forced to sleep on the floor after posting a "disturbing social media rant" — which he says was the result of a hack. Do we still live in a society where people are innocent until proven guilty?

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GLENN: Pat, can you help me out? How does an investigation usually work with the police? Do they -- do they watch TV and hear claims, and then they go and investigate?

PAT: Oh, my gosh. You must be a police insider. That's exactly how it works.

GLENN: I'm not wrong, right?

PAT: I would never do that. No.

GLENN: Okay. British police have opened a sex crimes investigation triggered by news reports covering Russell Brand.

PAT: Oh, my gosh. Isn't that something? This is so clear, that they hate his guts, because of the things that he's been saying.

GLENN: No. Two things could be true. He could absolutely be this guy.

PAT: Right. He could. He could.

But my guess is, if this was ten years ago, or 15 years ago, he wouldn't have this problem at all.

GLENN: No.

PAT: They would be coming after him.

GLENN: At the time, he did it on the BBC.

PAT: Right. Right.

GLENN: London's Metropolitan Police Force said Monday, that it had received a number of allegations of sexual offenses after a television documentary and newspaper investigations.

But there had been no arrests. Brand. Russell Brand denies allegations of sexual assault made by four women, in a Channel 4 television documentary and the Times -- Sunday Times newspapers.

The accusers who have not been named, include one who said she was sexually assaulted during a relationship with him. When she was 16. Another one says, Brand raped her in Los Angeles in 2012. Last week, a woman accused Brand of exposing himself to her, in 2008.

The woman told CBS News partner network BBC news, that she was working in the same building, where the BBC's Los Angeles office was. And when the incident occurred, Brand went on to the air to laugh about it, moments later on his radio show.

Well, we should be able to find that. The police force did not name Brand in its statement. But referred to recent articles in a documentary.

Said, its detectives were investigating allegations of non-recent sexual offenses, both in London and elsewhere.

We continue to encourage anyone who believes they may have been a victim of sexual offense, no matter how long it was, to contact us. We need to understand, it can feel like a difficult step to take.

And I want to reassure, that we have a team of specialist officers available to advise and support.

This is coming from their detective superintendent.

Brand has denied the allegations, saying his relationships have always been consensual. Even though, he was in an admitted period of being very, very promiscuous. That's a quote from him.

Known for his unbridled and risky standup routines, Brand was a major UK star in the early 2000s.

He hosted shows on radio and television, wrote memoirs, charting his battles with drug and alcohol, appeared in several Hollywood movies, and was briefly married to Katy Perry between 2010 and 2012.

Brand has largely disappeared from the mainstream media, but has built up a large following online with videos, mixing wellness and conspiracy theories.

Last week, YouTube said it would stop Brand from making money from the streaming site, where he has 6.6 million subscribers. Due to the serious allegations against him.

In an exclusive interview with CBS Mornings, the YouTube CEO said, they -- they decided to suspend monetization of Brand's channel because of YouTube's creator responsibility guidelines policy.

Quote, if creators have off-platform behavior, or there's an off-platform news that could be damaging to the broader creator ecosystem, you could be suspended from your monetization program. CBS mornings co-host Tony whatever said.

It has impacted a large number of creators and personalities on the platform in the past. YouTube went on to say, that's what played out in this particular case around the serious allegations.

So they have -- by the way, he's been dropped by his talent agency. He has been dropped for live performances.

And his publisher has also dropped him. So this guy has nothing. He has nothing. And he hasn't been charged with a crime.

PAT: And that happens so quickly.everybody got on board, right away.

And if you didn't get on board, the BBC is coming knocking at your door, asking you why. Hey, are you about to demonetize him? They were trying to get Rumble to demonetize him.

Rumble said, no. We're not going to do that.

GLENN: The parliament. Parliament, told Twitter to demonetize him and shut him down.

Parliament. I've never heard of that before.

So there's something very, very wrong here. And two things could be true.

He might have done these things. So don't wash your hands of that. Let's make sure that we know what happened.

But the other thing that is true. This has never happened before.

I've never seen. You had Menendez just a few minutes ago saying, well, you know, the charges. You're innocent until proven guilty.

And I demand. Well, what about Russell Brand? What about Russell Brand?

The story that is related to this, is a story about Chandler Jones. Do you know anything about Chandler Jones?

PAT: Very little.

GLENN: So he has claimed now, because he set off a tweet, where he said, the owner of the Raiders. And the head coach. Or the GM. He can't work for anymore.

Because the -- I think it was the owner had -- had information, and was protect protecting a man that molested his goddaughter. Okay?

And then nobody is really talking about that.

Nobody is really focused on this story.

And I don't know what this story was really all about.

Listen to this. NFL star Chandler Jones has claimed he was taken against his will, to a mental health hospital by the Las Vegas Fire Department last week. In an alarming social media post on Monday night, Jones said he had been injected against his will, and forced to sleep on the floor.

It comes a week after Jones went on a disturbing social media rant, accusing Raiders' owner Mark Davis of protecting the identity of a man he claims molested his goddaughter.

Jones, who is the younger brother of USC champion, John, later said that he had been hacked.

In a post on X, captioned first day out, but I'm still alive. Jones wrote: First day out. If my fans and friends were wondering, I was taken by the Las Vegas Fire Department last week against my will.

I was injected with, I don't know what.

They say that it was a court hold, and the Las Vegas police put me on it.

I hadn't done anything wrong. The police said, people were concerned about me. Because of my posts online.

I answered. Yeah. I know.

I answered my front door, and a group of five to seven were there to put me in an ambulance, where I was later ejected.

And I asked them not to.

I had in cell phone. Or in communication.

I was taken to Southern Hills Hospital. And transferred to Seven Hills, where they tried to force me to take meds and injections.

The NFL and Raiders star Jones, 33, added, I called Raiders' GM six to seven times, asking for help. And wondered if he had put me in here. But he had never answered.

I even left him voicemails. I was just trying to figure out, why I'm not allowed in the building. And still, why I don't have to continue to watch my brother suffer every Sunday. But no answer.

This place is not a place for high-profile athletes.

My first night, I slept on the floor. And was not offered a bed.

My brothers had nothing to bring me.

My brothers had to bring me decent meals to eat, and clothe.

My dad read to me Bible versus.

Every day, I miss, is $1 million. And I'm still confused on what I did wrong.

I'm still here. And I'm very sane.

Now, he goes on.

This is disturbing.

And again, I don't know what the truth is, on this.

But this isn't the first person that has been put into a mental institution.

Now, he's put into a mental institution, he claims. Because of his online post.

This is the way Stalin used to do it.

And maybe he is crazy, I don't know.

But listen to this story.

The mistress of a Pennsylvania police officer, spent three days in a mental hospital, after he had her involuntarily committed, when they broke up.

Ronald Davis is now facing charges for abusing his power and authority, to convince peers to issue a mental health valuation, and section his girlfriend.

Davis is married with kids, according to police records. He was having a relationship with the girl. Also 37.

They were together for -- for months, until the romance soured. He then told her, he would make her look crazy, and he did.

Pennsylvania state police confirmed Davis had been suspended without pay today. He's also facing felony strangulation and false imprisonment charges.

So I guess now we're going into a time, where we're putting people into mental institutions, that we either don't like, or maybe are saying something -- I mean, I don't know what's going on.

I just know. Have you seen these before?

PAT: No. No. It's really chilling.

GLENN: I mean, with Russell Brand, if you have done something, you need to pay the price for justice.

You need to pay the price.

If you are somebody who is living life on the edge, you're not going to be safe.

You're not. You have to do the right thing.

Just do the next right thing. If you have something in your life, clean it up right now. Clean it pick up.

You don't need anything in your life that you have to worry about. Just do the right thing. Because they will find things that you are doing and take you out.

And if you're just and it's not true, I believe it will work itself out. But if you are dirty and corrupt and have done something, the best thing to do is just pay the price. Let God work it out. Stop whatever you're doing. Turn back to God.

But we are living in times where things could get very, very dicey. They want to put you in jail with AI, and with deepfakes. There's a -- there's not a lot going for you. If they do want to put you in jail.

Just do the right thing. Stay active. Stay involved. Always speak your mind.

But shod your feet in the gospel of peace, always.

Why Glenn WANTS a government shutdown — and ALL TAXPAYERS should too

The United States is yet again on the verge of a government shutdown as House Republicans work to cut spending. But is that really a bad thing as the media has suggested? Glenn and Pat debunk some of the myths surrounding this current shutdown debate and review a "60 Minutes" report that details what your tax dollars are actually funding. Did you know that your money is bailing out small businesses in Ukraine? Meanwhile, here at home, small businesses are suffering under inflation. "We are destroying ourselves," Glenn warns, as the Biden administration depletes our munitions and oil supplies. So, maybe it's about time for a government shutdown.

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GLENN: Oh, man, I am so concerned about the government shutdown. And Pat is here to share my panic.

PAT: Oh man. I am scared. I am scared.

GLENN: What are we going to do?

PAT: I don't know. Same thing we always will, only it will be better. Because they are spending less of our money.

GLENN: But can they? Can they spend less of our money?

PAT: Well, they have to if the government shuts down, which is the beauty of a government shutdown.

They have to do all the necessary things. Like pay off the Social Security benefits and the veterans benefits, and all of that. They have to continue to do that, and they do.

STU: Yeah, including the interest.

PAT: Right. Right.

STU: You notice they're not talking about defaulting on the debt this time. That's weird.

PAT: That is weird.

GLENN: That was their biggest concern. We will default on the at the time. I haven't heard word one on defaulting on the debt.

PAT: I haven't either.

GLENN: That's weird. Now they're trying to say, you know these Republicans, they want to have a government shutdown. Because they want to shut down the ATF. Yeah. Yeah. At least we're honest about it. You know, all the things you want to do. Oh, how dare you, we want to take guns away. We love guns. I was kissing mine last night. Oh, I cleaned the tongue. I cleaned the barrel of my gun with my tongue, I love it so much.

Shut up!

PAT: And while we're at it, maybe the FBI too. Maybe that can go as well. Maybe that can go.

GLENN: And I don't know. The IRS. That wouldn't be a bad thing.

PAT: Yeah. Department of Education. Yeah. Get rid of all the nonessential nonsense.

GLENN: Yeah. Kevin McCarthy says, we're not going to default.

We have a number of days until funding runs out.

Do you know what we didn't have until -- until 1980.

Government shutdowns?

We never had them.

If -- you know, if the budget wasn't done, and it happened many times, you know, since 1776.

The budget wasn't done. They just went on, and no big deal. The budget will be finished soon.

But now, after 1980, I wonder what changed.

PAT: Huh.

GLENN: I wonder what changed. Because now we have to shut it down.

No. We really don't. We really don't. It's all funny money in the first place, you know.

PAT: That's for sure.

GLENN: So the -- the House Republicans are working hard today, to get everybody on the same page.

And that is, yeah. We should stop spending all of this -- this money.

You know.

And what do you say? We start with a few things. Like, no. The taxpayer shouldn't pay for abortions.

And send people on a vacation. At our expense.

And then at the end of that vacation, they have an abortion. No. Uh-uh.

No. No. I don't think so. Uh-uh.

PAT: How do you feel about the money going to Ukraine though? You love this for small business loans?

GLENN: Well, now, hold on just a second.

We're trying to help them win a war. Let me -- let me give you a couple of clips, from CBS.

When was the last time 60 Minutes actually did something where, he cared about.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: Well, they did this weekend. Listen to this from 60 Minutes. Cut one.

VOICE: What Americans have to pay is financing more than just weapons. We've discovered the US governments are buying seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers, and covering the salaries of Ukraine's first responders.

VOICE: Yeah. Yeah, 57,000 of them. That includes between the trains. This rescue dog named, Joy, to comb through the wreckage of Russian strikes and looking for survivors.

GLENN: Okay. I don't mind helping that one.

VOICE: And the US also funds the divers who we saw clearing unexploded ammunition from the country --

GLENN: Maybe that. Maybe.

VOICE: To make them safe again. The swimming and fishing. Russia's invasion shrank Ukraine's economy by about a third. We were surprised to find that to keep it afloat, the US government is subsidizing small businesses.

GLENN: Wait. What. Hold it. Now, the dog thing. Okay. If we can help out on the dog thing, fine.

PAT: And it seems to be connected to the war.

GLENN: Yeah. And finding the unexploded bombs in the rivers.

Okay. Okay. But wait a minute. Wait a minute. Paying 56,000 firefighters to show up.

You know we're also paying the government salaries. And we're paying the people's Social Security. Okay?

We're not even paying it here.

And every dollar that we print to send over there, is causing inflation, here.

So while our -- while we're getting poorer and poorer, it's almost like he designed it to be this way.

While we're getting poorer and poorer, they're -- they're getting bailed out by our government. And every time we send a dollar over there, you get poorer.

And it's not because it's taking money.

It's because we're printing money. Inflation.

So now we find out, that they're also, they're not helping small businesses here.

No. No. No.

When we had COVID. No. Home Depot.

Sure. Home Depot. I mean, they're safe.

But the Ma and pop stores, they're completely unsafe.

Huh! And now we're paying.

But wait, there's more. Cut two.

VOICE: Russia's invasion shrank Ukraine's economy by about a third. We were surprised to find that to keep it afloat, the US government is subsidizing small businesses, like Tatiana's mid-ware company.

PAT: Oh.

VOICE: That's cute.

GLENN: Oh, that is very nice.

VOICE: This fashion is a condition of war. We have to work. We have to pay taxes. We have to pay --

GLENN: Taxes. Oh, no.

VOICE: To our employees. We have to work. Don't stop.

VOICE: Why does that help Ukraine win the war?

VOICE: Because economy, it's a foundation of advocacy.

It's an aid from government, but it's an aid, say, from their heart of every ordinary American person.

GLENN: Okay. So wait. Hang on just a second. I'm not sure all that aid is from the heart of every American. Because we didn't know. If they would have asked us to help out, we would have been -- we would have been great. We are the most charitable nation in the history of the world.

PAT: And we would. We do give charitably.

GLENN: Correct.

PAT: More than the rest of the world, combined.

GLENN: Correct. But instead, they went through our government. And our government didn't tell us what they're doing. And they are doing things that are causing us pain. And not just pain.

What's happening here is, we are destroying ourselves. We're giving them all of our tanks and ammunition, that we are now dangerously low.

Dangerously low.

We don't have enough howitzer shells in you, to do any kind of war.

And we can only make 25,000 of those, a month.

Russia is using 60,000 a day.

A day. So I don't know.

I don't feel comfortable with this.

We've also destroyed our own oil supply. Our strategic oil reserve, almost gone.

We're destroying our ability to make oil, to find oil. To find oil. To refine it into gasoline. And yet, we're sending stuff over there.

We're letting everybody have whatever they want over there.

Including fertilizer.

Which our farmers are being told, we can't use any more, because of global warming.

Huh. Now, that's weird. How come it's okay for Ukraine. But not for us.

You haven't even passed a farm bill over here, to help our farmers.

But we're buying their grain over there. Which, by the way, because they're getting free grain.

They're planting crops. They can now sell it at such a low cost. That Poland has said, you're killing our farmers.

We can't support you anymore, Ukraine.

See what happens when man starts to get involved in ways that he shouldn't get involved?

See what happens? All of the unexpected consequences that come from this?

Or maybe they are expected.

So now, the Biden administration is requesting over $20 billion more. We wondered how they were paying for it.

We wondered where it was going.

Well, there are some things that you should probably know.

There is -- there is some questioning of some of the people that were in the administration over there.

And part of the group that was getting the money, and divvying it out. I think about 60 of them now, are actually being investigated.

Or going to jail. Or have lost their jobs.

Because they were corrupt. And taking and using our money for other things.

I just didn't know we were paying for everything over there.

Things that we wouldn't pay for us, over here.

Didn't know that. Just --

PAT: Nobody did.

Except the administration.

Until Sunday, with 60 Minutes.

GLENN: Yeah. And USAID. Which is now run by Cass Sunstein's wife.

Remember her?

She's in charge of USAID. And that's where all this money is coming from. And being distributed through.

Now, one last thing.

You know, that lady at least sounded grateful.

I want you to listen to the Ukrainian's -- hmm. Tell us how they really feel about our money. Your money. Listen.

VOICE: The country is fighting formal its survival. Bankrolled in large part by US taxpayers.

The outcome may be decided by America's willingness to keep paying.

VOICE: Some Americans say, we're very sympathetic to you, Americans. But we're going through tough times at home, and we just can't afford to keep supporting you.

VOICE: Ukrainians pay with their lives.

GLENN: Ukrainians pay with their lives. And...

VOICE: And I believe all their lives are much more than money. Much more than taxpayer's money.

GLENN: Their lives count much more than taxpayer's money. Yeah. It does. It does.

Although, nobody asked us. Now, this is what Joe Biden is talking about, when he calls for -- when he's saying, it's going to be a government shutdown.

You don't have to shut it down. Just agree to send any more money to Congress.

And then propose exactly what you want. And exactly where it's going.

Go through the proper channels for it. But you don't want to do that. Because you know.

I mean, I find it amazing. That CBS and 60 Minutes. Ran this right at the beginning of the budget stuff.

STU: Yeah. Incredible.

GLENN: That says something.

STU: Yeah. It does. It says, even they are getting fed up now with the shenanigans of this administration.

GLENN: Hopefully.

PAT: I hope so.

And I think, you know, we talked about this a little bit yesterday. But I think even the liberals in the media, are disgusted with this president.

And they see the fact.

And even if they're not disgusted. They understand he's a problem. And he might not win.

Because people are seeing, how compromised he is, mentally and physically. And so this might be part of encouraging him to exit.

GLENN: By the way, we now have photos of the ambassador -- the American ambassador, that was over in Ukraine.

Meeting twice with the Burisma official. After being told the firm was corrupt.

So we were told, that they didn't know anything. It's impossible to not know that Burisma and the head of Burisma was a total oligarch, that literally beheads the people, that -- that are in his way. And our American ambassador was told, as was Joe Biden, don't meet with these guys.

Don't. They're really, really bad. But the Burisma official, who worked closely with Hunter Biden was invited to two separate events, by the US ambassador.

For what reason? For what reason?

After she was told, have no contact with this person.

What was going on? What is still going on?

Why are we bankrupt America. This isn't America 1960, 1940. We have lost our manufacturing base. We are now in the midst of losing our cheap energy. And we have lost our cheap labor.

So what made America, America, in the 1940s, '50s, and '60s was, we had cheap labor. We had abundant, cheap energy. We had all of our natural resources. And nobody else had anything.

Well, now we don't have those things. Because they've been taken off the table.

And now when we do a marshal plan, by the way, in inflation-aged numbers, we are only about $50 billion away, and Joe Biden wants another 20 billion today. We're about $50 billion away, from the cost of the entire marshal plan.

Which rebuilt Europe.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: Where is all that money? Where is all that money?

And had you --

PAT: And what you want to bet, we're past that already. In reality. We don't have any idea.

GLENN: Correct.

So when they say, we have some extremists, that want to shut the government down.

I don't think it's extremist.

I really don't. With all the corruption, which we'll get into here in a second.

All the corruption that seems to be everywhere now.

Everywhere. All these deals being made with foreign countries by our senators. And our House members.

On top of that, the incredible spending!

I think it would be a good idea to shut it down.