popularMay 02, 2025

What I Saw at The White House Reveals Who Trump REALLY Is

When Glenn visited the White House to interview President Trump about his first 100 days in office, Trump gave him a personal tour that revealed a side of him that the media never shows. But there was one moment of the visit that Glenn believes sums up exactly who Trump is, and it would blow the media’s narrative out of the water. Out of respect for Trump, Glenn has decided not to share the full story until he gets permission from the White House. But he shares what he can. Plus, Glenn shares photos from his time with the President and what he learned about Trump’s love for history, art, and America.

Watch the full interview with President Trump HERE

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

So I just sent some photos. I think we're posting them I happen now.

If you happen to be watching us right now, I want you to -- I want you to just see these -- these photos. These are the things that we just took along the way.

Now, this is Donald Trump and I.

We're down stairs where the tours go. And he's got the picture.

And you saw this. Maybe if you follow the White House. Their X or their Instagram.

It's a painting of Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton.

And he's -- he's got a picture of him, almost like a -- almost like a warrior, with warrior paint on his face.

In between.

And it -- my favorite picture, is the one that follows it. And it's this one!

Because he's turning around. And he's buttoning his coat. We will take a picture together. He's turning around. He goes. It's driving them out of their minds. And I'm just laughing.

Because I'm like, this guy is just trolling, nonstop trolling.

I love this! They don't -- it's driving them crazy! And he -- they have no idea, that he's trolling them.

STU: It seems like, he has a lot of important things to do.

And this is where he gets his joy. You know, just screwing with the media.

GLENN: It is.

STU: It's like what makes him happy outside of his actual hard work.

GLENN: It takes him 20 seconds, walking down a hall, and going, you know what. You know that painting of me, with the war paint put in between.

That's all it took. That's all it took.

STU: Right. It's caused multiple news stories to be written.

Viral reaction, and everything else.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

Right. Now, here's a picture of the two of us. Tania and I, sitting at the -- sitting at the desk, in front of the president. And the president is telling us about all of the paintings that he just hung up.

Everything that the New York Times says, you know, oh, he wants to be a dictator.

He's explaining it to me.

It was important to him. Because I think he knew, I would understand.

And his explaining, this is why I'm doing all of this stuff.

And he just said, you seat painting of George Washington behind there?

That is -- hasn't been seen since Reagan.

Yada. Yada. Yada. And that's Tania and I looking back at the painting. This is me standing, as he's talking about the Declaration of Independence. This is me standing in front of the Declaration of Independence just reading it, and looking at it. It's in pristine condition.

Now, if you want to be a dictator, why would you put that right next to your desk?

Why? Why? Why? Why?

STU: It's the ultimate non-dictator document, right?

Anti-dictator.

GLENN: Next one is Tania and I looking up at another painting as he's telling us about it. This is the two of us on the back patio as we're walking out. He's taking us some place. He's like, let me tell you about the -- as we pass it. I said, this place pisses me off every time.

And he says, what do you mean?

The rose garden. I said, it pisses me off every time.

And he says why?

Because of what they did to Melania. All they did was bash her, and how she wrecked the rose garden, when she took the original plans from Jackie O and restored the garden exactly the same way.

And he just looked at me and goes, I don't even understand it.

I don't know -- they just hate. They just hate. The facts don't matter.

And he starts in, and tells me some other things that are coming.

It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun to watch.

This is a picture. The next someone a picture of us down in -- I'm not sure which one this is.

Maybe the yellow room down towards the basement.

And we were -- we were down stairs.

Going by the library.

Talking about stuff.

And he goes, oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

I have to show you this.

He is exactly like I am, when I get over to the museum.

His head would explode, if he came over to the museum.

His head would explode.

Because he's exactly like I am.

When I get to a tour over the museum, nobody can stop me. Everybody is like, Glenn, you have to cause these. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'm so excited to share all of history.
That's what he is doing. He is not -- he is not boasting. He is so excited to show American history.

And we walked into this room. And he was -- he was like, oh, you've got to see this painting. And this is where I understood. He really knows art. He's like, you've got to see this painting. And he comes in. All these beautiful paintings.

And this is the room, where before he talks about the painting. I said, let me ask you something, Mr. President. I know you're Donald J. Trump.

But -- and he stopped me. I was kind of frustrated. Because he was like, oh, absolutely.

And I thought, he doesn't know what I'm going to ask. He did know.

And I said, what do you mean? He said, every day, I get up, and I think I can't believe I'm allowed in this house. I can't believe I'm in this. So you want to talk about humble?

Does that like a dictator? Does that sound like a dictator, New York Times?

So he goes in, and he's like, look at this painting. It's the painting of Jackie O.

It's stunning the painting of Jackie O. And this is us in that room. Now, do any of those things sound like a dictator? Any of them? Any of them?

Any of them?

I -- I have to tell you, I -- I -- I didn't sign a non-disclosure on one thing, that -- but I -- out of respect for him. I'm not going to say it, until I get permission from somebody at the White House.

And I know he's on his way to Rome today, to pay his respects over to the Pope. Oh, man.

I want to show. Because I had the physical -- I have the photographic evidence, of something that will blow your mind! About this guy.

And I know if they -- if I ask, they're going to say, no. Please don't. Please don't.

But I have it. They don't know I have it. And they won't make me sign a -- it was captured during a moment while we were filming.

So I have the right to do it.

When I wanted it so badly. But I'm not going to. Out of respect for him.

But I know he will say, no. You can't show that.

But I have to tell you, we airbrushed something out of something of a photo that's been released.

My wife caught it. And she's like, did you see this?

And I'm like, no. And she's like, look at this! And it stopped everybody in their tracks. And they're like, holy cow.

What -- and it is -- it tells you everything you need to know about this guy!

And out of courtesy, we have airbrushed it.

And for the -- I've got to tell you. If he won't allow me to talk about it. At some point, when he's no longer the president, I will tell you about it. Because it is -- it tells you everything about who this really. Who this guy truly is. Who he truly is.

And I know it, and I know why I was there. Because I know who he was meeting with. Just about an hour later.

And who he was meeting with, were veterans.

And those veterans. The guy who was actually leading that.

We were leaving the Roosevelt room, and coming into the Roosevelt room, was Tim Kennedy.

And he had a whole bunch of veterans. With him.

And you might have seen the video of him with the veterans, where he's -- they're taking off their prosthetics. And putting him on his desk.

And he is signing their prosthetics.

And I know who he -- I just know who he is. I know who he is.

STU: We are so close to getting this information. This is not even going to take a month. Not a day after he came back.

PAT: Not even close --

STU: You already walked us down the hallway. All you have to do is open the door. You're all the way down there. This is -- I mean.

GLENN: Nope. Nope. I won't. I won't.

STU: You build up this great story, and then you don't tell us the story.

GLENN: No. It's torture. Because that one, I don't have a non-disclosure on.

That one is free game. But out of respect, I don't want to say.

I know -- I know him.

No. Please don't. Please don't.

I tell you, that one, I will either be on the phone with him. Or face-to-face.

And say, you have to let me tell that story!

STU: Is that he wants to be a dictator?

Does he have a king's crown.

GLENN: All right. I give. He has a guillotine in his pocket. In his pocket!

Yes. Little teeny heads.

Because all of the people that are overeducated and at the New York Times.

They have little teeny heads. So he has a little teeny head guillotine.

That he carries around with him all the time.

STU: I knew that's who he was.

GLENN: Right. Oh, my God.

STU: Being in the New York Times, in the next 15 minutes, I'm sure.

GLENN: So let's see. Here's something: Search warrant applicants -- or applications show that federal investigators knew for years about the millions of dollars flowing to Joe Biden's son from Ukraine, China, Romania, and elsewhere.

Newly unredacted IRS and FBI search warrants tied to the federal investigation into Hunter Biden provides new details of the information that investigators had in their possession about President Joe Biden's son's business deals. Linked to Ukraine, China, and elsewhere.

Multiple search warrant applications were released with only some redactions remaining. Late Tuesday following an agreement between Hunter Biden's legal team and the Justice Department.

The government has confirmed with subject matter experts within the Department of Justice and council to Mr. Biden, the parties agree the search warrant and applications and affidavits at issue may be unsealed with limited redactions, according to the acting US attorney for Delaware.

She added the government proposals in counsel for Mr. Biden, does not object to limited redactions to protect specific privacy and grand jury secrecy interests. So it's showing now, again, how the government -- and this is -- this is the thing, that I will pound him on, a year from now.

If we don't have arrest warrants, for people who did this, I will pound him on this!

And I told him, you -- you -- it means nothing!

It means nothing. We change everything. But you do it all through executive order.

And you don't clean out executive justice.

You don't clean out the FBI. You don't clean out Intel.

It means nothing. Because all that Deep State, they will just come back. They will just come back.

And he knows it. Be patient. Be patient. Be patient.

And I'll be patient. Not to the point where nothing happens. Because if he loses the next election, God forbid, all of this stuff comes back.

And it's got to be prosecuted!

You know, you want to go after Hunter Biden. Go after Hunter Biden.

That's fine. Who was it? Who was it, that hid all of this stuff?

I want to know, who was it? That hid. That had a vegetable for a president, who couldn't do anything.

That put our country at risk.

I want them in jail!

And I don't want them in jail, through the dictate hadn't king. I want a fair, honest trial.

I don't want any, quote, trumped up information.

I want a real, actual trial. Based on the Constitution. And the facts!

And if anyone broke the law, I don't care what party they're from. I want them jail!

That's the only way we save our country!

Now, one last thing, I don't know if you -- I don't know if you saw what made the chief data analysis at CNN go, holy cow!

But Democratic leaders in Congress, hmm.

You know, they keep saying. You know, Donald Trump is having some low numbers. He's having low numbers, especially when it comes to the economy.

All right. The belief the American people had that the Democrats would do the right thing in Congress, when it comes to the economy. Last year. Last year, it was at 80 percent.

Now, that number is 39 percent!

That is the lowest number by far, in the history of Gallup polling!

The lowest previous was 60 percent. Houston, I think we have a problem!

They're about to suffocate in space. They have no idea. This is why Chuck Schumer bailed and said, we're not going to close down the government.

And why we should have stood and said, no, no, no, no.

Shut the government down, Chucky.

Shut it down!

We had. Congress, it's not the day to piss me off.

Congress, get back to work!

Get back to work!

Fix the nation!

Work with the president.

Pass the tax cuts.

Real tax cuts.

Pass real regulation.

Pass the REINS Act. You won't have to do anything. You just pass the REINS Act. You know why you won't?

Because it makes you do your job again. That's why you won't. You weasels.

Exposing the dangerous roots of queer theory

In this explosive conversation, Glenn Beck and Liz Wheeler expose the disturbing roots of gender ideology and queer theory — and how these radical ideas are directly targeting children. From the shocking origins of queer theory, where pedophilia and child pornography were openly defended, to Planned Parenthood’s new role as one of the largest distributors of transgender hormone therapy, the truth is undeniable: this movement is not about freedom or equality, but about dismantling families, corrupting innocence, and profiting off of our children’s pain. What we are witnessing is nothing less than a satanic ideology dressed up as compassion — and it’s spreading like wildfire through schools, culture, and medicine. Parents, you need to hear this. The time to protect your children and fight back is NOW.

Watch the full episode HERE

Glenn's "secret" to conquering the JFK fitness test

President Trump recently signed an executive order to reinstate the Presidential Fitness Test and the media is in a frenzy. But Glenn and Stu look back at the history of these tests, including JFK’s version of the Test that seems IMPOSSIBLE for modern Americans. But Glenn has a secret reason for why he’s confident in his pull-up abilities…

Transcript

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GLENN: What is the -- what is the new physical -- the president's physical fitness, you know, plan?

STU: Well, the thing that RFK Jr and Hegseth were rolling out the other day. I don't know if it was the full test or anything, but they were issuing a challenge to America, to be able to do 100 pushups and 50 pullups within five minutes.

GLENN: That's crazy.

STU: Thank you! That struck you as also crazy.

I don't think there's ever been a time in my life, that I could do that. Let alone now with shoulder problems. And much too much weight.

GLENN: All right. But that was before I needed this walker.

STU: I don't think there was a time in my 20s or my teens, that I could do that. But that -- in five minutes? Fifty pullups?
GLENN: Both of them in 5 minutes.
STU: Yeah, both of them. So it's not like 100 pushups in five minutes. It's both tasks within five minutes.

GLENN: No. No. That's not true.

STU: RFK Jr. is just doing it in jeans.

GLENN: Yeah, well, RFK, he's -- he's a weirdo. I mean, he is. Come on. When it comes to fitness, he's a weirdo.
STU: Yes.
GLENN: I mean, he's done this his whole life. He's like 800 years old. He can still do it.

STU: Yes. Depressive, I will say.

GLENN: I don't know. He's a sex machine.

STU: Oh. That's been a problem for him. Yes, that's been an issue in his life. Yes.

GLENN: Okay. All right. Go ahead.

STU: Separate from the president's physical fitness test.

GLENN: Right.

STU: But, I mean, they don't, they don't really think we're going to do that, right?
Like, I mean, how long would that take you to do?

STU: I think for me, it would take a good month. I think a month, I could probably get two pullups a day. That would get me around, a little over 50. So I could do that. Plus, the pushups. A solid month, I could get that done.

GLENN: You could do more than two a day. You could do more than two a day.

STU: You know, Glenn, I've got to say. I think -- I will throw a number out there. No science behind this, so just as a guestimate.

I would say 40 percent of the population can't do any pullups. Maybe 30 percent. Thirty percent of the population can do exactly zero pullups. Precisely zero, so an infinite amount of time would be a correct answer for a third of the population.

GLENN: I think you're -- I think you're being -- I think you're being a little too optimistic. I think it's closer to 40 or 50. I think it's closer to 40 or 50. Maybe 60 percent.

STU: Right! Pushups are one thing. I mean, I think almost anyone can do a pushup. One --

GLENN: You can do a pushup. Yes. Yes.

STU: Singular pushup. And if you can do one, you can wait long enough, to do a second one.
And at some point, the hundred gets done. That's not the case with pullups. Pullups, you can sit there and think about how much you want to do a pullup for a really long time. But that doesn't make a pullup happen. If you've got a certain amount of weight on you. You're not doing a pullup. It's not occurring.

GLENN: I have no idea, how many pullups I can do.

STU: I have an exact number of pullups, you can do.

GLENN: Do you? You think so?

STU: Yeah. Yeah. I have the exact number. I have to calculate -- AI has been running a report on me. It came up with zero.

GLENN: Right. Right. Really?
I can do. I mean, this is so pathetic. Listen to this. I bet I could do three. You know, you could do three.

STU: In a row? Proper form.

GLENN: What do you mean in a row?

STU: I mean, holding on to the bar, without letting go, you're doing three. There's no way. I don't think so.

GLENN: I think I could do. Well, with proper form, I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

STU: I'm not saying it has to look pretty. You have to get your chin up above the bar. It can't be one of those things, where you're a quarter of the way up there.

GLENN: So I can do one and rest for ten minutes. I could do another one.

I think I can do that.

STU: If you -- I'm not saying, you jump up, and you pull yourself up as you're pulling up. Full hang --

GLENN: See, you may not know this.

But you know what, I've done the DNA test. Have you ever done the DNA test that tells you all about your genes and everything else? Mine came back with something remarkable, and I have to share. You might feel bad, next.
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STU: Coming up next, Glenn attempts live pullups on the air. Stay tuned!
(OUT AT 8:29 AM)

GLENN: You know no idea what who you're dealing with. No. You don't have any idea who you're dealing with here.

I got my DNA test back like 10 years ago. And we all -- we all took it, because we were looking for things. And so we all took it. My DNA test came back, and everybody in the family, their test made total sense. Like, oh, yeah. That makes...

Then we read mine. We have to find -- I have to find. See if Tania has it still. We should have had it framed. I swear to you, they -- they mixed me up with somebody else.

Somebody else is like, wait a minute. I'm this pathetic? Mine came out and said, you have the muscular structure of a -- of a -- something like a -- an elite athlete. You have the abilities and agility and everything else of an elite athlete. And I'm like, there's not a chance. I don't have any of that!

I don't even know if I have muscles. I have to check once in a while, and go, do I have muscles still?

Doctor is like, I don't know. Can I? Ask just press against my hand on the leg. I don't know.

You know, I don't know how to do that exactly. So --

STU: You sure it said elite athlete and not elephant? I mean, if they misspelled it.

GLENN: It was.

I was having eye problems at the time.

STU: No!

GLENN: I mean, we read it. And I was like Tania, I believe that for Tania.

Maybe they switched me and Tania. Because Tania is really strong. She'll kick your butt.

She works out every day. All of that. Me? Never. Never.

And it kind of makes me wonder, when I get to the other side, and the Lord went, okay.

So what did you do with your life again?

Because I gave this incredible body, and you wasted it the whole time.

And I'm like, you should have been more clear, okay?

You should have been more clear. I -- maybe I could have played basketball. But I tried once. And it was embarrassing. It was embarrassing. It was like sixth grade. And I'll never live -- I don't even want to think about my time on a basketball court. Okay? So don't -- don't start with me. You should have made it a little clearer. When I first started to do stuff. And I think that's fair. I think that's a fair argument. In my defense. In my defense, Your Honor, God, you should have made it a little more clear.

STU: Yeah. I mean, if they really wanted us to do this, then the 11th Commandment is 50 pushups, and -- or, 50 pullups and 100 pushups, right?

Like, put it in a commandment if you really want us to do it. You have to be more specific, we're Americans.

GLENN: Okay. So let me give you the top of the list for the JFK Presidential Fitness Test. Okay? This is what you had to do in high school. In high school.

Thirty-four pullups. Bar dips: Fifty-two. What's -- because I believe I did that. A long time. And I don't recommend it.

STU: It's not a barhop.

GLENN: Oh, it's -- oh, bar dips. Okay. Okay. All right.

Bar dips: 52. Handstand pushups: Fifty. What are handstands?

STU: Oh, my God. Handstands.

GLENN: I can't even stand on my hands. Is that I'm doing a handstand and a push up? Because that's not happening. You're not human.

STU: Yeah. You're balancing yourself on your hands. Your feet are above your hands on the wall. Like a wall. And you're doing --

GLENN: Oh, so you're balancing yourself. That makes it a little easier. Still impossible.

But a little easier.

GLENN: Impossible. You could do precisely zero of those.

Aright. So you had to do 50 handstand pushups.

Or one arm -- 30 -- no, sir.

Twenty-six one-arm burpees in 30 seconds. Is that a one-armed push up?

STU: No. Well, you're bracing your yourself like you're about to begin a pushup in a burpee with only one arm, which that's not that difficult.

But then you're doing. Then you're like, you move your feet towards your hands. And then you jump up in the air basically. And then you do it repeatedly.

GLENN: No, no, no. That's ridiculous. No.

STU: There's a law of gravity. You're not supposed to violate it. If it was a recommendation of gravity, then maybe jumping would be appropriate. But it's not. Follow the law.

GLENN: In 48 seconds, you had to do a 3300-yard shuttle. Now, I've been to the airport. I think I've done a 3300-yard shuttle, but it depends on who is driving. You know.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Rope climb. Try this. Rope climb. Twenty feet, hands only! Sit start.

STU: That's what I remember from the president's physical fitness test. And I remember looking at that rope, like, no chance I could get up that thing.

GLENN: I remember looking up at that thing. Humiliation. Humiliation is coming my way. I'll never kiss a girl, because that ain't happening. I'll get maybe 10 feet up. Maybe. Maybe.

STU: And you were right for 24 years from that time, approximately.

GLENN: Agility run, 17 seconds. Extension pressups, what? What?

I'm sorry. Why am I so tired reading this?

Extension pressups. What's an extension pressup, 8-inch? You had to do 100 of them.

STU: Let's see. Exercise. An exercise for low-back pain involving lying on your stomach and pressing your upper body up with your arms while keeping your hips relaxed and down on the mat.

GLENN: Oh, I could do that know. 8 inches.

STU: The last part of it, relaxing down on the mat.
GLENN: That's what my doctor says I should be doing. What?

STU: I can do relaxed and down on the mat. That part of it --

GLENN: Yeah. I could do that -- I'm the only guy. I took yoga for a while, like three weeks. My wife is like, yoga. You could do yoga. Let's just do yoga together.

I did. And the yoga instructor said to me. Because we were doing a plank.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And she came and all I remember her waking me up. And saying, I think you're the only person I've ever -- ever taught that fell asleep in yoga. And I'm like, it's just so relaxing. Just let me sleep. Let me sleep.

STU: That's interesting, that you did yoga. Is there any footage of that? Any video that we could post? That would be good for --

GLENN: No. There's not. You had to do pegboard. Five trips of pegboard. And I think that's when you have the two pegs.

STU: Yes, it was a board.

GLENN: You have to take it out, and put it up, right?

STU: This is American Ninja Warrior. No way.

GLENN: There's no way. There's no way.

STU: This is amazing.

GLENN: Try this one: You had to do a 45-second handstand. I've never been able to do a handstand. Never!

STU: Never.

GLENN: And I'm an elite athlete. I'm an elite athlete. Try this one: A man carry, 5 miles.

STU: What? What do you mean a --

GLENN: Five-mile man carry.

STU: Is a man carry as obvious as it --

GLENN: I think it is.

STU: You're carrying --

GLENN: If I'm going to carry that man, you have to carry me that man for five miles.

I'm not sure, I can't carry any man for any miles. I mean, if I am -- if I am a firefighter, count on burning in the house. You're going to burn in the house. Because I can't carry you out. I can get in there and go, yeah, I will have to leave you.
I will have to leave you here. I can't help you, sorry.

It's also getting really hot in here. I have to go. You had to do a five-mile jog. An obstacle course.

You had to swim prone for a mile. You had to swim underwater for 50 yards, any strokes, two minutes. Deep waterfront, hang float, with arms. What? What is a deep water hang float with arms. Wait. Wait.

It's a deep waterfront hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes.

What kind of al-Qaeda PE class was this?

STU: Who has access to -- who has access -- like, you're in the middle of the country, you may not have a deep water body nearby. This is -- are you sure this is an actual test?

GLENN: This is the actual test. This is the actual -- what is a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes? Can you look that up?

STU: A deep water hang float is an aquatic hang float done in the deep end of a pool with the aid of flotation device, such as a noodle or belt.

In this position, the flotation twice supports your upper body, while your legs and torso hang freely beneath you.

That can't be what it is.

GLENN: You can do that.

Deep-end of the pool.

STU: Can you bring a margarita?

GLENN: Man, this test is no big deal.

What! No way. No way!

Here's the last thing on the test.

A vertical tread in an 8-foot circle for two hours!

No way.

STU: Vertical tread in an 8-foot circle?

GLENN: So you're in the water and you're treading water in a circle for two hours. Two!

STU: This is not -- what?

This is not the test.

GLENN: It is. Now, I told you, this is the top of the test.

This is the top of the test.

So this is for the ones who could do all the other tests.

This was the top of the test. The bottom of the test is not that much better. Here's the entry, okay? Let's see. Pullups, 2/6/10. I don't know what that means. Pushups, 16, 24, 32. Bar dips, four, eight, and 12. Situps, 30, 45, and 60. Broad jump, 6-foot, 6, 6, 6. And 6, 9.

To jump 6 feet? I don't even know if --

STU: That one is possible, yes. Glenn, I know it sounds incredible. But, yes. That one is possible.

GLENN: Sounds incredible. You know, I think we should have the average person Olympics. I really do. I really do.

STU: Oh, I would watch that.

GLENN: I would watch that every time.

You see them coming. And you're like, hmm. That one -- three feet. I'm giving him 3 feet. 200-yard shuttle. Agility run. Rope climb, 18 feet, hands only. 880 yards in three minutes. A mile in seven minutes. Pegboard, six holes. A 50-yard swim. Forty -- 40, 50-yard swim in 36 seconds. Man carry, 880 yards. No, thank you! No, thank you!

Look at -- look at what we've gone down. That's the bottom of it. And I don't think most Americans could do that.

I couldn't. Well, I could. Because I'm an elite -- I have the body of an elite athlete.

STU: No. You could not. Now, of course -- let's just say, this is supposed to be for a high school kid. Right?

So this is the prime of your athletic life. Could you do some of these things? Probably.
GLENN: Go into high school.
Go into any high school, and ask them to do this. There's no way. And all of the kids would be.

STU: Well, that's kind of what the reaction would be.

GLENN: Don't get me wrong. I would have been there too. And my parents would have said, suck it up. Just do it.

So nothing has really changed.

STU: That's been the reaction to this proposal too, of bringing this back. Right? The media is covering this. Like, it's going to embarrass children.

You know, I mean, I do remember it being like, I can't do that. I'm not going to the top of that rope. That's not happening.

That's sort of life. Right? Sometimes you can do things. Sometimes you can't do other things.

GLENN: That's why you have to learn how to injure yourself.

You know, how many stairs can I throw myself down, to not do serious damage, but enough to get me out of PE.

STU: Yeah, you have to fake an why are. You have to learn from LeBron James. Act like you got hit in the eye. And fall down like you were just stabbed over and over again, like you were in an athletic competition.

GLENN: There's no way. There's no way.

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