Who do we want to be, America?

Glenn opened Wednesday’s Glenn Beck Program by highlighting a stark dichotomy that has emerged this week. There is a conflict brewing between the America that has historically been known for its unshakable work ethic and up-by-the-bootstraps mentality and a government-dependent constituency that has exploded in recent years and forgotten what it means to earn a living by working hard – even at a job that may not seem glamorous or even all that good.

Earlier this week, Cadillac released a commercial for its new electric car that focuses on the ingenuity and work ethic that has always differentiated the American worker. Democrats, meanwhile, are lauding a bizarre consequence of Obamacare that could potentially encourage more than 2 million people to leave the labor force. Why work when you can, say, cook dinner? That was the logic of Congressman Keith Ellison (D-MI), who just so happens to be the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, during an appearance on ABC’s This Week.

With this in mind, Glenn had a simple question for the audience: Who do you want to be, America?

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  • Stephan Bruno

    Glenn’s 9 Principles.

    1. Hate Obama

    2. Hate Obama

    3. Hate Obama

    4. Hate Obama

    5. Hate Obama

    6. Hate Obama

    7. Hate Obama

    8. Hate Obama

    9. Hate Obama

  • Anonymous

    Well, glory, most Conservative/Libertarian talk hosts have nothing good to say about plans coming from the White House. Ever.Even when it’s proven that too much stress about work and money lead people to have high blood pressure, strokes, heart attacks and need mental health breaks. It sounds like the guy who was talking up how people should have a balance between work and time away from it was definitely talking about dividing blocks of time, NOT being unemployed. It’s impressive to learn how Americans are the hardest working group on Earth. And what do we have to show for all that hard work? Not only debt and sickness but being slaves to money. Glenn talks about how people shouldn’t be slaves to anyone or anything but completely ignores how money is the worst slave driver of all

  • Anonymous

    Focus Stephan, Keith Ellison is the principle character here. That would be the only current member of Congress who is a Muslim. Muslims are not Jeffersonian as they have no concept of the separation of church and state.

  • Anonymous

    The Bible, and Glenn, and Christians do not believe that money is the worst slave driver of all. It’s the LOVE of money that makes people fall off. As an American, if I hear that we are the hardest working nation on Earth, I take that as a compliment, and you should too. I remember posting to you recently asking how often you read, and you trumped me by telling me that you OWN a bookshop, that was you right? I didn’t reply because something tells me that you tell the truth.
    I bet you that if I sat and had a cup of coffee with Barack Obama, it could potentially be a pleasant get together. I bet I’d have a great cup of coffee with you too! But we aren’t the same when it comes to politics. You know what, who cares? But what in the hell does that have to do with working hard? It’s not a Conservative/Liberal conflict. Keith Ellison said something highly unintelligent. As I go around in this country these days I see a lot of people who have no idea how to balance their work/family life. The Conservative model family usually has a stay at home mother. If a Conservative is a critical thinker, they are also open to the idea of a stay at home father, it does actually happen. But any way you slice it, if a person has time management skills they will find a way to work (and therefore provide for themselves and their family) AND spend quality time with their family. Atheists can obtain time management skills and family values too.
    Ask yourself this question: If your top two priorities are providing for your family, and making sure nobody else has to provide for them, how can you go wrong?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, that is me, you remembered correctly. It IS a compliment that Americans work hard but not to the extent it rules people’s lives. Betcha anything all other countries work just as hard with just as much to show for it . They also don’t have as many stress problems and they have a society where they can take hours off for lunch and a month of for holidays. You’re right about the love of money and trying to keep up with “the Joneses” contributes a lot to why Americans are slaves but it’s also being a money slave when people figure in how they have to work just to be able to pay the bills and insurance. I’m no fan of Obamacare but it’s nice to know that at least the insurance part of life is something the people who signed up to have don’t have to worry about working for.
    Something I don’t get is why people say the love of money is why people fall off. I’ve heard of wealth addiction which is true love of money by saving and being miserly when they don’t have to be but most people who get “love of money” said about them don’t seem to like it very much at all. They can’t wait to be wealthy so they can get rid of it as soon as they can

  • Anonymous

    The love of money, or more aptly the LUST of money is the fine line between GREED, or the desire to provide and the ability to fulfill that desire which I call SUCCESS. I loved Atlas Shrugged because it declared that the highest moral value to be obtained is the desire to fend for yourself. The Bible’s point was that there is no evil in success, which is why demonizing the top 1% is completely idiotic. The demons are the tiny minority of the 1% who obtained their wealth by dishonesty and fraud. It’s a tiny minority yes, BIG TIME. I just can’t stand the socialist outlook that’s developing here. It’s a disease that keeps spreading and has nothing to do with what the founding fathers wanted.

  • richard

    we want change, i am writing a book about it…its called “Singularity Revolution” and its all about change. if you want to donate go to this url.

    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1637395615/singularity-revolution

  • Anonymous

    Stephan, maybe you should put down your bong, clear your head, and try listening to Glenn. A few months ago, when Glenn was losing his voice, he used 81/2×11 cards to convey a message. It’s probably on Youtube. You should watch it. Glenn’s message was “love”. To disagree with lawlessness, with lying, with hypocrisy, and with cronyism — is NOT hate.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve got it really backwards, Fawnday. Have you examined life in Communist countries like Cuba, China, or North Korea? Capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other economic system. History is absolutely clear on that point. America was founded on principles of freedom, opportunity, individual liberty, work-ethic, and limited government. And, Fawnday, work is work. Sometimes it sucks. Get used to it! But it provides a paycheck and benefits. And if you work hard and you’re responsible, you will be rewarded. What is the alternative? Would you rather sit around home, feel worthless, and collect welfare — provided by taxpayers who work for a living? And if you think that working is so bad — that it places you in debt, in sickness, and in slavery — then you’re living in some alternate universe or you’re being irresponsible. Try going to Sudan or other poverty stricken regions in the world, where most individuals would love to have a job, a house or apartment, and a car.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks. It is pretty weird lumping all the 1%ers together, if having a load of money was so horrible the people that get elected would have to be at the top of the list. To me money doesn’t equal success,opportunity does. Like Glenn said in his award speech this past Friday money is just a perk of doing business. He’s right about that, getting paid could easily be in something else but people have decided for some reason to want coins and paper with numbers and presidents pictures on them. Maybe, just maybe, if the pay people earned could be what they needed or wanted at that moment and given a list of choices instead of just earning money there wouldn’t be so many people being stressed or even being unemployed. People would want to work and there would be enough work and enough pay to go around.
    I’m not sure what the founders wanted. Everyone who believes America should return to those values says one thing while at the same time the Declaration of Independence talks about one of the most important things in life being the pursuit of happiness. Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin both made schools, libraries and other places public. Meaning they would be owned by everyone and free to use. Which seems to be something small government fans can’t stand. Well, that’s what it seems like anyway.

  • Anonymous

    This is absolutely racist.

  • Anonymous

    Your concept of capitalism is like an acid trip.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have a family.

  • Anonymous

    Ayn Rand applied for, if not died on, social security and medicare, hoss.

    Also, Atlas Shrugged is a horrible, horrible novel.

    Rainbow Six and House of Leaves is much more poignant.

  • BlueMN

    I was forced to read Atlas Shrugged in college. Ugh! What a horrible piece of crap! A tome of shrill dogmatism without a single character of any virtue whatsoever. Everyone is reduced to a one dimensional caricature. A torturous read if ever there was one.

    “The Bible’s point was that there is no evil in success…” That’s what you really think the Bible’s point was? I guess all that stuff about the meek inheriting the earth and helping the poor was just some Nazarene talking nonsense.

    If the Founding Fathers had wanted to return to the days of feudalism like the Tea Party wants, where we’re all slaves to the 1%, they could’ve just kept the monarchy going.

  • BlueMN

    I told you the “kinder, gentler Joseph Goebbels” Beck said he was going to be wouldn’t last! Haha!

    “His father was black, his mother was white…not now, but when that wasn’t done in America!” What a racist scumball.

    What Rep. Ellison was talking about was that some people chose not to work for someone else since they can get health insurance on their own, not that they are “on the dole.” Beck is being deliberately dishonest here because he has so little respect for his followers and knows they will swallow it. Why should Americans be slaves to their employer if they want health care?

    And Beck, stop trying to turn this country into Somalia, if I wanted to live in Somalia, I’d move there. If you want to live in Somalia, move there!

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Obama’s 9 principals -

    1. Hate America

    2. Drive a wedge between blacks and whites

    3. Drive a wedge between gays and heterosexuals

    4. Drive a wedge between the young and the old

    5. Drive a wedge between the sick and the healthy

    6. Drive a wedge between the rich and the poor

    7. Drive a wedge between the liberals and conservatives

    8. Teach that freedom is bad

    9. Use gullible morons to spread his message of hate.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    “they can get it on their own”

    You mean form big daddy gov? Better to be a slave of theirs right?

    How is that getting it on your own when your actually having it payed for by all those evil rich taxpayers you love to hate on. The only places in the US that vaguely resembles Somalia are places with entrenched liberal politicians, like Detroit.

    “The problem with socialism, is eventually you run out of everybody else’s money” – Margret Thatcher

    Interesting flood of libs this morning. Must be democrat pushback. Send out the staffers to defend the indefensible! Lol

  • Anonymous

    Sorry to hear that.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Sad, but yea, I can tell.

  • Anonymous

    The meek do inherit the earth. I LIVE by that statement. How can you say that Dagny Taggart and Hank Rearden or Francisco D’anconia were not virtuous characters? They literally exhausted themselves with work, not because they had to but because they wanted to. I’m not a slave to anybody. I work for a rich man voluntarily. I guess I could quit anytime I wanted to, sit at home doing nothing, and siphon off of good hard working people anytime I want to right?! THAT’S virtue isn’t it? I read Atlas Shrugged at home in my own free time, it’s the greatest work of fiction I’ve ever laid my hands on thank you very much.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve never read House of Leaves but I HAVE read Rainbow Six and as I recall, it’s a story about a bunch of Leftist idiot environmentalists who get what’s coming to them.

  • Anonymous

    Jefferson and Franklin weren’t communists sorry. No founding father was. Gotta stop the spin mode, I’m not falling for it.

  • Anonymous

    Your sentence was typed during an acid trip. Funny thing about acid…you never come down!

  • Anonymous

    Conservatives just want people who are able bodied to PAY for their own insurance. If you voluntarily don’t work, you’re basically worthless.

  • B D

    Glenn Beck is the wedge driver actually. He built his entire career on demonizing others and creating an extreme paranoid “us against them” mentality among his core audience. That’s his gimmick.

  • B D

    If you think Beck is sincere, you’re being fooled.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Tea party platform

    Preamble:
    Preamble: The Tea Party Movement is an all-inclusive American grassroots movement with the belief that everyone is created equal and deserves an equal opportunity to thrive in these United States where they may “pursue life, liberty and happiness” as stated in the Declaration of Independence and guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States.

    1. Eliminate Excessive Taxes
    2. Eliminate the National Debt
    3. Eliminate Deficit Spending
    4. Protect Free Markets
    5. Abide by the Constitution of the United States
    6. Promote Civic Responsibility (I know this one is hard for some of you to understand, it requires selflessness)
    7. Reduce the Overall Size of Government
    8. Believe in the people ( I can see how this would also be difficult considering the people some of you surround yourselves with)
    9. Avoid the pitfalls of politics
    10. Maintain local independence

    Or…

    “The good thing about being the president, is I can do what I want.” – Barack Obama

    One of these seems more feudal to me, and it isn’t the Tea Party.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Sounds like your describing the democrat party. You see all my liberal friends in this thread, one of the major differences between you guys and sensible people is we will actually listen to both sides and decide for ourselves which is right. You guys take whatever tripe your heroes give you and just believe it with all your might without a shred of due diligence.

    Democrats actually have their moron base believing that conservatives, aka constitution lovers, want old people to die, black people to go away, sick people to get sicker, young people to starve, bla bla bla. The never ending drum beat of hate coming form the left has done more damage to this country than you are obviously willing to admit. I’m sure you need those excuses to justify your pathetic, sad, and hateful existence. Really is sad how they have you sooo indoctrinated you will not even listen to what the others are saying. Are you afraid to find out that your beloved leaders who you worship and idolize like gods, could have been using you because your an easy target for this kind of hate bating? Likely.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Right, but regardless of being proven to lie 90% of the time! I’m sure you put full faith into the divider and chief.

    Some of my favorites that rubes like you bought hook line and sinker.

    1- most transparent administration in history.
    2- most bipartisan administration.
    3- laser like focus on jobs
    4- caused by a u-tube video
    5- if you like your doctor/plan you can keep your doctor/plan
    6- will reduce premiums

    I’ll keep going if you like

  • B D

    Thanks for proving my point Difcan. You’re projecting and you’ve described exactly how Beck’s core audience thinks when they swallow all the crap he’s been spewing for years.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    I knew this about you libs before I even knew Beck existed. You have always been the same. Never ending drumbeat of hate, to rabble rouse people into voting against something. People like me actually believe in voting for something. Like truth (that’s a relative term for you I’m sure), Justice (which would require following the rule of law) and the American Way( which has been under assault by folks like you since the 1940s)

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Where I would love to stay and goad you into continuing to display your liberal ignorance. I unlike you no doubt, have to go and be a PRODUCTIVE member of society, so that the gov can take the money I’m gonna work my ass off for, and give it to you so you can sit there, not working, spreading divisive hate wherever you can sneak it in. So good luck with that.

  • B D

    Feel better now? Off to work then goober.

  • melissa

    I couldn’t have said it better!!

  • Anonymous

    Not saying they were. They were for people “who are created equal” having the same opportunities as everyone else. That meant having schools and libraries and other places people could have the best chance of improving themselves be free to use for anyone who felt like using them. Everyone including girls who didn’t have the best chances to go to school or learn much beyond how to be a housewife. His slaves were educated. He and the others in his house saw to that. How in the world do you compare Communism to being able to have opportunities? Actually, these days what will be passing for Communism in America because of cooperation capitalism instead of competition is really Amish values.

  • B D

    You don’t know what my politics are Difcan. Andrew Breitbart recognized Beck as a fraud and a huckster too. Was he a “librul?” Smarten up. I realize you’re a typical Beck gullibilly who sees the world in black and white like Beck trained you to, but you really do have the ability to learn. Even a crow can learn new things. Try it Difican.

  • Nicole Hidu

    Actually, they would rather us not work at all.

  • Anonymous

    Wait, I thought the conservative talking point was that Obamacare was so expensive, people are loosing their healthcare. I keep hearing them give examples of huge premium hikes (many have been debunked). So how is it now so “affordable” that people won’t have to work? At some point the unemployment checks stop coming. How does one afford to eat and pay rent let alone pay these more “affordable” Obama rates without working? Which is it, Glenn, too expensive or too affordable? Or are you being disputatious only to agitated your audience.

  • Difcan’s Avatar

    Sorry forgot, wedge between women and men! Kinda a big one.

  • Anonymous

    You forgot:

    Fight those who oppose us like you’re fighting a gun fight.

  • Anonymous

    My favorite:

    If they bring a knife we’ll bring a gun.

  • B D

    It’s always about agitating his audience with Glenneth Beck. He’s a side-show huckster who needs an angry mob to sell his fear to.

  • http://www.chapter19.us/ Kevin Groenhagen

    “Which is it, Glenn, too expensive or too affordable?

    It’s not an either/or proposition. It’s too expensive for those pulling the cart and “too affordable” for those riding in the cart.

    http://www.chapter19.us

  • http://www.chapter19.us/ Kevin Groenhagen

    Dividing the world into the oppressed and the oppressor goes back to Karl Marx and Frederick Engels in the first words of The Communist Manifesto:

    “The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

    “Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.”

    You can hear Robert Creamer echo Marx in “Listen to Your Mother: Stand Up Straight! How Progressives Can Win.” In Chapter 22, Creamer offered “six motivational messages” for getting out the vote. Message #4 is “It’s Us Versus Them.” “To motivate mobilizable voters, we have to make them feel like part of our ‘team,’” he wrote. “We want them to start rooting for our guy—not to persuade them (presumably they are already persuaded)—but to give then an emotional investment in victory.”

    “Candidates who understand that ‘the fight’s the thing’ provoke that reaction,” Creamer continued. “‘Us versus them’ is the second major reason why Harold Washington got out 82% of the African-American vote in 1983.”(Creamer listed “inspiration” as the top reason.)

    Harold Washington, who was bleak, won the race for mayor of Chicago in 1983. It was Washington’s victory that inspired Barack Obama to go to Chicago in 1984 to become a community organizer. Ever since then, Obama has used “It’s Us Versus Them” to motivate his followers
    to join him in “fundamentally transforming the United States of America.”

    - Except from “Chapter 19: Defeating the Socialist Coalition and Restoring Our Constitutional Republic,” which is available for free as a PDF file at http://www.chapter19.us

  • http://www.chapter19.us/ Kevin Groenhagen

    It’s not projection. I showed above where a prominent progressive explicitly advises fellow progressives to practice “It’s Us Versus Them.”

  • Anonymous

    So how would these “riders” pay rent, eat and pay for these “affordable” rates after unemployment runs out? Medicaid has existed for the poor for over 45 years. How is Obamacare different such that it would encourage unemployment?

  • http://www.chapter19.us/ Kevin Groenhagen

    The “riders” have been doing that for generations now.

  • Anonymous

    So then your issue is with programs like Medicaid, which is available to someone making 11k or less per year or a family of 4 making $28k or less. A “rider” would have a very low quality of life at that income. Would you remove such a minimal safety net from those who are truly poor or unable to work to prevent some “riders”? Or would it be better to police fraud?

  • Anonymous

    You seem to be totally right about Glenn’s “us vs. them” gimmick. Not only is there no middle ground for anyone who sees the benefits of both sides but when he goes on the road and gives talks he says something completely different than he does to the people who pay attention to his programs. He knows his audience and also knows that they might leave if he talks up any middle ground. Plus, this time he has pitted an abstract idea like time management and meaningful work against a concrete materialistic thing like an expensive status symbol car and making money.The constant flip-flop is why I personally think that anyone hearing his talks will see his real self.

  • Draxx

    It doesn’t matter if too expensive or too affordable! The fact that it Violates Our Constitution By Forcing Us To Buy A Private Industry Product or Service Is The Real Issue!!! Forcuing us into being Indentured Servants of the Elites, Buy It Or Be Punished…
    Stop clouding the issue saying things like it’s GB’s fault, it is Our Gov’t Officials Screwing Us Over!!! Get It Yet?

  • MB

    Untrue

  • Anonymous

    Wrong.

  • Anonymous

    They developed a strain of Ebola in biospheres with the intention of restarting the world via wiping out humanity.

    Environmentalists? Sure. Idiots? Not so sure.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Revan

    …………..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Revan

    Which I bet you cannot prove anything you just said.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Revan

    Remember tho when you are sitting under a bridge wondering why I voted for Obama that now you are free to write books because you lost your job because of liberals caring about the poor.

  • Anonymous

    …but I’m not losing the debate.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, but it’s actually pretty awesome.

    You ever see ‘Jaws’? I’m a lot like Quint.

  • Anonymous

    This post isn’t about constitutionality, but since you mention it, the Supreme Court already adjudicated constitutionality. If you feel strongly that the Supreme Court is incorrect, you should call your state representative and urge him or her to petition the court.

  • Anonymous

    What exactly do you think I can’t prove? Poverty incomes for Medicaid? That’s public information. http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/13poverty.cfm#thresholds

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Revan

    Yeah because you already lost.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Revan

    pretty much your whole rant.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re asking me to prove something, say what it is. The only fact I mentioned was poverty levels, which I gave you the source. The rest of your request is too ambiguous. Maybe you’re referring to my claim that many extreme claims of rate hikes have been debunked. Well, even the example in the Republican Party’s rebuttal to Obama’s State of the Union addressed has been debunked. See http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/jan/30/bette-in-spokane-cited-in-mcmorris-rodgers-speech/

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Revan

    Really a liberal web site no one has heard of?

  • Anonymous

    Hey libturd, don’t you undrestand what YOUR libturd rep Keith Elison explained? It’s right up your alley.

  • Anonymous

    Not a liberal website. It’s the local newspaper of the woman that claimed she couldn’t get affordable rates. It’s her home town calling her out! Read more carefully.

  • Mike Nelson

    “Debunked”?

    Are you super serial?

    Put down the AlGore-to-English dictionary, my friend.

  • Anonymous

    It seemed that you were equating the Founding Fathers with Ellison’s approach. They did what they did with public institutions but there is no way in hell they’d approve of people sitting around getting free health care on hard working people’s dimes and equating it with virtue.

  • Anonymous

    Back when I was younger, liberal and brain dead, I’d actually done acid. I’ve seen some people OD so bad they NEVER come down. Believe me I know what I’m talking about.

  • Anonymous

    Back when I was younger, liberal and brain dead, I’d actually done acid. I’ve seen some people OD so bad they NEVER come down. Believe me I know what I’m talking about

  • Anonymous

    My family is pretty awesome.

  • Anonymous

    Yet another Beck fan that insults for lack of articulation. First, I’m an independent, so it makes no difference to me what political generalizations anyone thinks my opinions align with. You should try it. Keith Elison doesn’t represent my opinion. Beck is asking “who we want to be” in this post and alleged that Democrats are happy that 2 million people will leave the labor force from Obamacare. That’s the kind of ludicrous inference that gets Beck followers like you whipped into a misguided frenzy. Same shtick every time.

  • Anonymous

    They couldn’t achieve their utopian goals. They got out-witted and wiped out by a counter-terrorist insurgency because they were idiots. It was a good book though. If we both like it, hey, at least we have something in common. Let’s try and dwell on that.

  • Anonymous

    Wrong, there has never been an OD on LSD. To even get close, one would have to drink a 55 gallon barrel of it. Chemistry 101.

  • Anonymous

    My own personal experience is all I need. I personally know people who’ve had this happen to them. I’m actually not obligated to explain myself to you or anybody so I’m done with this thread.

  • Anonymous

    Yes. I’ve read a few extreme claims of rate hikes that have been debunked. Even the example in the Republican Party’s rebuttal to Obama’s State of the Union addressed has been debunked. Her home town newspaper printed the story. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/jan/30/bette-in-spokane-cited-in-mcmorris-rodgers-speech/

  • Anonymous

    Can you debunk this for me? Because I’ve not seen a shred of evidence that supports what you’ve said here. NOWHERE!

  • Anonymous

    Even the example in the Republican Party’s rebuttal to Obama’s State of the Union addressed has been debunked. Her home town newspaper printed the story. http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2014/jan/30/bette-in-spokane-cited-in-mcmorris-rodgers-speech/

  • Anonymous

    I read your article, which is about ONE PERSON! It doesn’t debunk the fact that health care insurance premiums have gone up exponentially around the entire country. There are still less people on the exchanges than there were who lost individual plans. These are facts. You can either grasp them or continue to live in denial. No skin off my back either way.

  • Draxx

    Federal Judges can be just as Corrupt as Mobsters if they so choose, the fact that they twisted and changed wording so that they can justify it to the elites doesn’t mean it’s Not Unconstitutional….

  • Anonymous

    It’s just one example of extreme claims being debunked. I’ve read other extreme cases being debunked usually because they didn’t bother to follow through to learn their options. Reality is rates will go down for those with pre-existing conditions and up for some healthy people. If there was no ACA, hospitals are obligated to help the uninsured and they pass the cost to the insured anyway.

  • Anonymous

    There is an appeal process. That fight can be fought if there’s enough desire to do so.

  • Anonymous

    Why are you defending this law? What’s your angle?

  • Anonymous

    LSD can offer profound insight, sir.

    There have been no documented human deaths from an LSD overdose. It is physiologically well tolerated and there is no evidence for long-lasting physiological effects on the brain or other parts of the human organism.

    I prefer psilocybin, however.

  • Anonymous

    Rainbow isn’t an insurgency ;)

  • Anonymous

    I’m not defending the law as much as objecting to the kinds of ludicrous and unbalanced inferences Beck makes. Better to understand the critical point the country reached with healthcare costs. Economists warned it’s the single biggest threat to the economy. Previous administrations were just delaying action. The law is not ideal, but it will benefit a lot of people and it will cost more for some. There will be many amendments and improvements as Republicans come off repeal efforts and actually try to shape the law for the better. We should hear objective debate about problems this country faces instead of childish accusations. There are pros and cons to every decision. If you’re hearing only pros or only cons, you’re being played.

  • women99

    yes you are

  • Anonymous

    One sixth of the economy cannot be controlled by people who know nothing about health care. We didn’t reach a critical point with regard to health care costs prior to Obama. The costs are higher now! This isn’t even a matter of debate! Look you believe what you want to. Be delusional. There’s help out there for you.

  • Anonymous

    Stakeholders were involved in developing the ACA. Of course costs are higher now, they’ve been on an upward trajectory for decades. We have an aging population. Healthcare was certainly at a critical point. There were 55 million uninsured and rising fast as risk pools got sicker. 18% of GDP was spent on healthcare. Baby-boomers are retiring and a large sick population looming. If you don’t think that’s critical, you may want to reconsider who’s delusional. Even The Heritage Foundation knew healthcare would be a huge problem when it proposed individual mandates and subsidies in 1989! See the Heritage proposal here: http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf

  • Anonymous

    I really wouldn’t know if the founders would or wouldn’t think health care should be important to give to everyone for free. Seems like they probably might since they were building a country and needed everyone to be as healthy as possible. I have no idea if anyone wrote anything about how medical stuff got paid for. But remember, medicine was very different in those days. There was no insurance, doctors made house calls no matter how sick anyone was and hospitals were where people went to die since most were so poorly run with little ventilation and nobody had nursing skills ( nurses were so unimportant back then that most of them were of
    ill-repute)and germs were mostly unheard of.

  • Anonymous

    It’s clear that you have no concept of reality. There’s help out there for you.

  • Anonymous

    Keep up the spin. You convolute the issue. If you can’t see reality…omg I’m done. You’ll keep going with the denial. It’s irritating. Is there insurance for the nausea you’re creating by my having read your posts? Is that covered under pre-existing conditions? You can’t just look at a simple truth and deal with it. It’s utterly stunning.

  • Ferenc Balla

    My dear friend! You are the carbon copy of your chief in liar president.

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  • MB

    I saw Jacob’s Ladder too. Now, if you had suggested a link between psychosis and cannabis use, I might’ve been interested…

  • Anonymous

    I provide easily verifiable facts and you return supposition. Just like the Republican party, you offer nothing constructive. You should see a doctor for that nausea with your Obama-surance.

  • Anonymous

    this is a paid political announcement from the Obamma Administration…..

  • Anonymous

    this is another paid political announcement from the Obamma Administration…..

  • Anonymous

    and another paid political announcement from the Obamma Administration…..

  • Anonymous

    and again this is a paid political announcement from the Obamma Administration…..

  • Anonymous

    again ….this must be
    a paid political announcement from the Obamma Administration…..

  • Anonymous

    Non sequitur, I have no idea what Jacob’s Ladder is.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have health insurance. I will pay the doctor bills willingly until the law gets repealed.

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to add that a verifiable fact is that health care costs are rising on average. I don’t need to post a link here to prove that. It’s just true. I don’t want YOU to suffer. That’s why I oppose Obamacare, because I think we will ALL suffer because of it. I don’t have a problem with you feeling the way you do. It’s just that you keep posting links of articles of people who agree with you. You’re not researching reality. You’re researching your own perception. Christian and Conservative folks like myself are being harassed by people like you and because of your bigotry, you just don’t care. The values I grew up with, ones that my older wiser relatives instilled in me are under attack. I don’t want Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Kathleen Sebelius, or Nancy Pelosi, anywhere near my health care. 5 million people immediately had their existing plans made illegal by Obamacare, and only 3+ million are being enrolled in the new exchange, AT HIGHER PRICES! These are facts. I don’t want your denial supporting links. I don’t need them, they prove nothing. My facts are being recited daily on talk radio and if they weren’t facts, Rush, Glenn, Hannity and the Conservative media wouldn’t be beating the hell out of your side.

  • Anonymous

    So who pays your way if you’re in an accident and your bills were $180,000? Answer: unless you’re wealthier than most, everyone else pays for you through higher hospital rates. Very irresponsible of you. What if you got cancer and the ACA didn’t exist. Answer: no company would insure you and you’d be either denied your treatments or the rest of us would pay for you. You should take responsibility for yourself like the ACA mandates.

  • Anonymous

    Of course healthcare costs are rising. We have more expensive technologies and an aging population. They’d be rising without Obamacare. However, Obamacare has a number of cost cutting measures in place like electronic record keeping, forcing insurance companies to spend at least 80% of their revenue on actual healthcare, paying for outcomes as opposed to procedures and more. I didn’t post links of articles that agree with me, I posted links to facts. 55 million couldn’t get insurance before the ACA. The plans that were cancelled were ones that were issued after the ACA that didn’t meet the rules. And talk radio constantly tells one side of the story and their called out by fact checkers all the time. These issues aren’t simple and there are good and bad aspects to the solutions. If you’re hearing all good or all bad, you’re not hearing everything. Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck boil everything down to good vs evil, and that’s just oversimplifying or not telling everything. Obamacare has problems, but it also solves some.

  • Anonymous

    That’s just it though. I don’t deal well with “mandates.” I always take responsibility for myself. I don’t need an overreaching government to tell me what to do. I don’t comply with force, never have, never will.

  • Anonymous

    You didn’t address my question. How would you take responsibility for overwhelming costs from a trauma or devastating illness? Just let the hospital pass it on the rest of us? Everyone gets sick at some point. It’s entirely irresponsible to pass the buck to others.

  • Anonymous

    Want for your studio in Texas to be the shinning city of freedom of expression,of freedom of speech , for people of Hollywood who want out from under threats of being label of them in being outcast or should be treated like lepers,threats of losing their jobs if they not in lockstep with obama and the progressive in their public life and their private life s!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://disqus.com/KJinAZ/ KJinAZ

    We want to be everything Obama hates. Free people.

  • Charlie

    Ladies and Gentlemen…think about what Glenn Beck said about Obama from
    3:55-4:15…if that isn’t racist, I don’t know what is…when will the Glenn Becks, Sean Hannitys, Ann Coulters, Rush Limbaughs, etc, actually reveal the truth about what is troubling this country: the Israelis…so-called Conservatives, steadfastly refuse to believe that, what Obama is doing, has been done by virtually every single President since Lyndon Johnson, yet they consistently blame Obama for all the world’s problems…the fact of the matter is that, AIPAC has total and absolute control of both political parties, and the spineless GOP, steadfastly refuses to admit that fundamental fact…America will only further sink into the bottomless pit, until the American people wake up and realize that Zionism is the cancer that is sucking this country dry…period…

  • Guest

    OK we get it – you hate Jews.

  • Guest

    It is passed on to the rest with Obamacare anyway. How else do you think it is given to people for free or with subsidies? YOU are paying for it in your increased taxes/premiums.

  • Guest

    There are more people losing their coverage than have gained it. There are too many people no longer able to get the meds they need covered or to get the services they need at certain treatment centers under Obamacare. There are people whose deductibles are so high that they do not benefit at all from Ocare. In order to cover a very small percentage that wasn’t covered before, they caused damage and distress to the majority who have been converted to Ocare. Just wait till the employer mandate kicks in. Employers are saying they will dump their employees onto the exchanges as they can’t afford the predicted increase in their expenses.

  • Guest

    Those who are retiring are going on Medicare, which has been stripped of billions to support Obamacare..

  • Guest

    Automobile liability insurance will pay for it.

  • Guest

    She had a $552-a-month policy with a $10,000 deductible, and it included four doctor visits per year at no additional out-of-pocket cost.

    The replacement policies offer lower deductibles and broader coverage, but they didn’t include the doctor visits at no extra charge, which is apparently what she needed, as the large deductible would never be met each year.

    The site doesn’t really debunk anything.

  • Guest

    Anything more than the $552 she was paying is not affordable to her. There was nothing available to her that was of equal premium or less. She was offered a ‘less expensive one’ at $1,052-per-month.

  • Guest

    Not when it involves an Obama appointed judge.

  • Guest

    It is the Dems who are spinning it into people being able to leave the work force or lower the number of hours they work to do what they want and still get their Ocare free. They know this is a bad result from the CBO and they are desperately spinning it from negative to positive.

  • Guest

    People have committed suicide from taking LSD, and others have been killed because of their behavior (disastrous errors of judgement) as a result of the altered perception and hallucinations. Art Linkletter’s daughter Dianne, Frank Olson, Joe Sicherman, Steven Taylor, Anthony Stewart, Benji Hayward, Martin Cotton, William Parker Martin, Ethan Rickman – just for a few examples.

    LSD radically alters perception of reality, links normally
    disconnected ideas, and triggers questioning of basic assumptions about the world. It causes a permanent alteration of the brain, even after the ‘trip’ is over, that almost always is not evident to the person who ingested it.

  • Guest

    Not quite true. see references :

    Fysh RR, Oon MCH, Robinson KN, Smith RN, et al. “A Fatal Poisoning with LSD”. Forensic Sci Int 1985 Jun-Jul;28(2):109-13.

    “Radioimmunoassay, high-performance liquid chromatography and capillary gas chromatography-mass spectrometry were used to detect and measure LSD in the first reported case of fatal poisoning by LSD. [...] In a recent
    case [...] a 25-year-old male died 16 h after being admitted to hospital, and a Coroner’s enquiry concluded, on the basis of the medical and toxicological evidence, that the actual cause of death was poisoning by LSD. This paper describes the toxicological aspects of the case in which LSD was analysed in ante- and post-mortem samples by
    various techniques.”

    http://www.erowid.org/references/refs.php?ID=6320
    …or go here..
    http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?A=ShowDocPartFrame&C=ref&ID=6320&DocPartID=5888

    The LD-50 (50% test subject mortality rate) is 12,000 micrograms. Most tabs have 40-200 micrograms on them. It would cost an awful lot to take enough to OD, but it certainly is not a 55 gallon barrel LOL. You can, however, take so much that it would do permanent mental damage, without fatal consequences. 1200 micrograms is an extremely high dose.

  • billsnotes365

    It’s obvious that you don’t listen to anything that those disagree with Obama have to say. To steal a phrase, “How’s that hope and change working out for you?” Unless you are one of the Obama’s political contributors, not so well.