GLENNFebruary 21, 2017

Filmmaker Beaten in Sweden Reveals Why the European Rape Crisis Is Being Ignored

If you listen to the mainstream media, there's a weird thing going on. All of a sudden, Sweden doesn't have a problem. Sweden doesn't have a rape crisis. Sweden is just fine with its massive influx of refugees. However, the facts are indisputable. Sweden is now the rape capital of the west.

Yet the facts are tossed aside for an alternate reality that borders on the pathological. No one knows this better than Ami Horowitz, producer of Stockholm Syndrome, a documentary about Sweden's rape crisis, who was beaten by Muslim immigrants after going into a so-called "no-go zone."

Glenn had a similar experience in Sweden, but left just shy of things becoming physical.

"I was at the place where CBS reporters got into a fight over their camera. We had to leave because our security pushed us out," Glenn said Tuesday on radio. "They said, as we got into the car, we were minutes away from a riot because we were even there."

Ami joined Glenn to discuss his experience in Sweden and President Trump's nonsensical tweet, which has garnered more interest from the press than the atrocities actually taking place throughout Europe.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: Ami is a good friend of the program and a documentary filmmaker. And he was over in Sweden. He did the Stockholm syndrome, which is a documentary -- short documentary that everybody should watch because it is absolutely the truth of what is happening over in Sweden. Ami, welcome to the program.

AMI: It's a real pleasure to be back, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. Now, so, Ami, are you the guy who Donald Trump was talking about, do you know?

AMI: Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.

GLENN: Can you tell -- okay. What happened? What's really going on here?

AMI: Are we talking about Sweden, or are we talking about the controversy?

GLENN: First, let's talk about the controversy.

AMI: Well, so what happened was, I came out with this video, Stockholm Syndrome that you teased before. And it came out about, oh, two months ago. And it did fairly well. Got a fair amount of press. Did a few million digital views, about typical of what my videos do.

And then a month and a half passes, and Tucker Carlson from Fox News wanted to have me on as a guest. He was talking about Sweden as an example of the problems that refugees are facing in terms of immigration within countries. And he said, "Hey, why don't you come on and talk about the video." I said, "Great." So we talk about the video, no problem.

Saturday night, I'm at a bar mitzvah, and my phone starts to blow up. I'm like, "What is going on?" And people are telling me it seems like the president just referenced your interview with Tucker Carlson. I said, "That sounds interesting." And I heard what the president said.

It sounded a little bit weird. It could be interpreted in a couple different ways. And if you are negative against the president, you could interpret it that he was making up some terror attack. If you have more sympathy toward the president, you would say, well, he was really referring last night to the interview. He just kind of stumbled on his words, which he's apt to do.

And all of a sudden, man, this becomes this global international scandal that I find myself in the middle of this maelstrom. It's absolutely insane.

GLENN: Now, it's sane because now let's talk about the documentary.

Ami, I was there a year ago doing a documentary on exactly the same thing. Sweden is one of the greatest countries, I think in the world. It is -- it is wildly socialist, but it's pretty easy to be socialist when it's homogenized as Sweden is.

Everybody looks the same. Everybody, you know, comes from the same background, et cetera, et cetera. So there's no real strife in Sweden historically.

But they have prided themselves in being the -- the healers of the world. They're just a different group of people. And I love them for this.

The problem is, is they give free housing, free clothing, free food, free everything to refugees.

AMI: Free cash. Free cash.

GLENN: Free cash. And so the refugees are pouring into Sweden. And I was in those no-go zones. I stood at that same strip mall where you were assaulted and I was almost assaulted and 60 Minutes --

AMI: Liar. Liar. Liar. There are no-go zones. Nobody gets through these places. That's what I'm hearing all day long from Sweden.

GLENN: I know. I know. And what's interesting is, you were -- in your documentary, you have the audio because they told you to turn the cameras off, and you wisely did. But then, you know, like the -- like the bull in a China shop that you are, you stayed and just started asking a simple question, why? What is the problem with filming here? And they beat you up.

AMI: Yeah.

GLENN: And it's all on tape.

AMI: Yep. Yep.

GLENN: Hang on. Then what's amazing is you spoke to the Swedes afterwards, and they all say there's no problem.

AMI: That's the most amazing -- and that's maybe -- now, considering I got my butt kicked, I still found that last part of the video where I interviewed Swedes, and they deny any problem. Maybe the troubling aspect of this whole thing is that they are the self-denial -- it borders on the pathological. They are doing whatever they can to avoid the reality of the truth.

And if that means make up fake statistics, they'll make them up. If that means to say that you weren't beat up, then that's what they're going to say.

Their narrative of being a humanitarian superpower is something -- they're so proud of it. They'll come up with these happy stats, right? Happy stats. We're all good. Everything is good. And just deny the reality on the ground. And it's sad, it's confounding, and they're trying to do the right thing. Don't get me wrong. They're trying to reach out and do this selfless act of humanity. But like the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished. And, boy, are they being punished.

GLENN: Yeah, no, I will tell you -- this is why I love the Swedes so much. They have a different attitude. They really do believe that they are the -- you know, America sees itself as the savior of the world. We march in and we take care of things.

They see themselves as the beachhead of the -- the hospital of the world that takes in all of those who are, you know, having some sort of problem and brings them to their shores and heals them. But it's not what's happening.

And listen to the amount of denial to the country which has now become the rape capital of the world. Listen to the people from the Ami Horowitz documentary.

VOICE: First Islamic terrorist attack.

GLENN: Here it is.

VOICE: Do you think the sexual assault problem is an Islamic problem, or not really?

VOICE: No, no, no. I think it's a general problem among -- among men.

VOICE: Yeah, the problem isn't like this culture or that culture. The problem is male culture.

PAT: Wow.

VOICE: I don't think the immigrant is a problem.

VOICE: No, it's not. Like, that's just, like, a tiny, tiny bit of the problem. And, like, when that happens, it's because we didn't, like, bring -- bring the men in the right way.

VOICE: And I don't see that connection at all.

PAT: What?

STU: It's our fault.

VOICE: I would very much like to see the evidence of such a connection.

VOICE: Do you think it's racist to make that connection?

VOICE: Yes, I think so.

PAT: That's unbelievable. How did we not bring them in, in the right way? And that caused them to rape?

AMI: We didn't give them enough money or housing or food or clothing or education.

PAT: Is that -- do you think that's what he was actually saying, that Sweden didn't give them enough?

AMI: Yes.

PAT: Wow. I mean, that's incredible.

GLENN: Now, there are parts of Sweden where -- and we were there. I was at that -- I was at the scene of the riots at that police station where you were at. And, Ami, I don't know if you got this. I'm sure you did. But as soon as we got out of the media truck, because we were white, there was an immediate stop on the street. I mean, I've never felt so uncomfortable so fast as I did in that location.

And that's before I went to that little strip mall.

AMI: Dude, I've rolled with the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo. I've interviewed Hamas in Gaza. I've been in some pretty rough places. And I got to say, when I walked in that area with my crew, I felt naked, and I felt endangered. And that was the only place where I got my butt kicked. None of those other places -- I was in Venezuela, man. Some people shot in front of me. But that was the only place where people actually attacked me. And that police station that you were referencing, it got so dangerous for the police to have a presence there, that they actually moved the police station out of the area.

I want to be really clear about something, these no-go zones. Those are not my words. If you watched the documentary, the short video I did, the police who I'm interviewing say these are no-go zones.

GLENN: Yep.

AMI: They said these are states within a state, where Swedish law doesn't apply, Glenn. This is where we are at, with Sweden. You have little fiefdoms of Sharia law. The Swedish law doesn't apply. And there, the Swedes are telling us -- you didn't get to the last person who I talked to. I was like, "Is there enough? Is there a point where you can't take anymore in?" She said, "No, huge country. We can take them all."

GLENN: So, Ami, this was not controversial just a year ago. I mean, you know, when I did this, it was not controversial to say -- when Barack Obama was in office, it was not controversial to say it is the rape capital of the world. That -- I think what is it, one out of every five women in Sweden now will be raped?

AMI: Yeah. I don't know that stat so much. I do know this -- I know that when you see -- it's the rape capital of Europe for sure.

The stats are -- and this is what is clear. When rape has plummeted all across western Europe and the United States, right? Rape is up 50 percent in Europe. When -- murder -- murder -- forget rape for a second. Put that aside. Murder is down everywhere in the United States, murder is down everywhere in western Europe. Since 2012 till now, murder is up 80 percent. These are undeniable unimpeachable stats. But you have these Swedes -- listen, when they were trying to debunk my video on CNN and NBC, they'll trot all these fools, and they'll all try to give some bogus stat, that this isn't true. Those are the raw numbers from the Swedish security -- I'm sorry, the Swedish Statistic Bureau. They keep all the crime stats. These are numbers which cannot be disputed. You tell me if there's a problem.

STU: Because one of the things that they say is that in Sweden, they just report rapes more often than in other countries.

GLENN: Then why did it start in the last four years?

AMI: Let's assume that's true. First of all, it's not true. Let's assume that's true for a second. It doesn't matter. If rape is up every single year, that's the culture of reporting rapes more often than not if that isn't true. But the numbers are still up 50 percent. You see what I'm saying? It doesn't make a difference.

STU: Right.

GLENN: Right. So did they just start reporting them?

STU: No.

GLENN: No. There's something -- if that's who they are, okay. We'll accept that.

But why -- why has rape gone through the roof in the last few years?

AMI: Right. That's the question. So here's the thing: I say, what's the correlation between Islam and the rapes? It's so interesting about how they try to cover these things up.

So in 2001, the last year, Sweden kept stats on the demographic of perpetrators. And lo and behold, 70 percent of all perpetrators were immigrants into Sweden.

So they said, that's a stat we don't like. So they scrubbed the stat so now you can't find the demographic because they scrubbed it away. Now, what we do know is this, that the rise in rape and the rise in murder dovetails almost exactly with the extreme rise in Islamic immigration. We know that. We know that two-thirds of the people that are raped do not know their perpetrator in Sweden, which is the exact opposite of the United States.

And none of them -- and the most important part is nobody has an alternative theory on why these rapes and murders are going up. The only plausible one, Occam's razor, the one you're left with, the simplest answer, is that it is correlated to Islamic -- Islamic immigration.

And every cop will tell you -- ask a cop off camera. Do you -- when you arrest people, what's their background?

Every single cop will say -- and I spoke to dozens of them. The majority people we arrest are from Islamic backgrounds.

That doesn't mean to say, I'm saying we should ban all Islamic people from every country in the world.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you have an open border policy like we did -- like Sweden has and like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wanted to have, this is what the result is going to be.

GLENN: Ami, thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Always good to talk to you. The name of the documentary is -- is Stockholm syndrome, and you can find it on YouTube. It runs about. Ten minutes.

STU: It's funny too, you can say all you want that rapes are not going up because they're not being reported. Which is always strange and a difficult-to-measure metric. But really, there's a difficult thing to make that case on murders.

You know, people tend to report all the time that their friends are murdered. Like all -- every time a murder happens, we know because there's a body.

GLENN: What's really interesting is when I was over there -- and he said the key words: When off camera -- when off camera. When I would talk to people on camera, they would all say, you know, everything is great. When I would talk to people just one on one, they would tell you the real story. They would say, everything has just gone insane. You know, white blonde women are a target because you're not Islamic. Generally speaking, you're not Islamic.

And the Islamic teachings from these radical mosques that they come from are teaching you that you're -- you know, you are -- you can be a slave. So I can -- I can rape you all I want, and it -- and Allah doesn't have a problem with that because you're subhuman.

STU: Luckily, there's no white, blonde women in Sweden.

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Why RFK Jr.’s Former Running Mate OPPOSES Casey Means for Surgeon General

President Trump’s nomination of Dr. Casey Means for Surgeon General had many MAHA fans cheering. But RFK Jr.’s former running mate, BlazeTV host Nicole Shanahan, has major reservations. She joins Glenn, who has been a fan of Casey, to explain why she believes there are stronger candidates. Means, Shanahan claims, may have “conflicts of interest” because of the “biometric harvesting company” she founded and its close ties to Silicon Valley. Shanahan also questions whether RFK Jr. is playing “political 4D chess,” or if she was lied to when she was promised that the Means siblings wouldn’t be in government. Is RFK Jr. reporting to someone other than Trump? Shanahan explains why she believes it’s possible.

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GLENN: Nicole Shanahan. Nicole, how are you?

NICOLE: Glenn, how are you doing?

GLENN: I am very good. It's great to have you here.

So I want to ask you, the Surgeon General thing, are you for Casey Means? Or not for Casey Means?

NICOLE: Well, I will tell you who I am for, Glenn.

GLENN: Okay.

NICOLE: I'm for all of those Americans. Those hundreds of thousands of doctors, seeking truth, honesty, and dignity in our medical system once again. That is what I'm for. That is what propels MAHA into existence.

That's what propels Bobby Kennedy into the position of running for president of the United States. That's why I joined the campaign. It really is about listening to this group of doctors that did the right thing during the COVID pandemic.

That spoke up, when it was dangerous to speak up.

That lost their licenses. And so when I hear from that base, concern or research. About individuals, in and around MAHA.

I have to listen to them.

And I do listen to them.

Because oftentimes, they are right. They're brave, and they're principled. So the concern I've been hearing from that group of people is that MAHA -- you know, any movement. MAGA had this issue too of infiltration by different groups that are more self-serving, than they are for the movement itself.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

NICOLE: And so just one example, Casey Means is a founder of a company that does biometric harvesting. She's very close with many of the big data biometric harvesting companies.

In Silicon Valley. And this -- I noticed with all these people. You do not want them running in a government position that is responsible for everybody equally. Right?

GLENN: So wait. Wait. Wait.

What is -- what is that?

They're harvesting, what?

NICOLE: Well, so biometric data is anything between heart rate data, to all of the data that is collected from your FitBit or high glucose monitor. It could be labs. It could be -- then there's all the DNA harvesting. And big data that's being done.

So, you know, I think that the base -- MAHA really came from medical freedom. And medical sovereignty.

And the idea that we have to keep conflicts of interests. Out of the government.

And so when I -- you know, see some stuff going on. That we could be doing better.

Right?

Our job.

And I learned this from the MAGA base.

Our job is to ton seek the best possible people. For government, that are truly putting the principles of this country first.

The principles of American sovereignty first.

GLENN: So you wrote yesterday.

It's very strange. It doesn't make any sense. I was promised that if I supported RFK Jr. in the Senate confirmation, that neither of these siblings would be working under HHS or an appointment.

And that people much more qualified would be. I don't know -- I'm sorry.

RFK very clearly lied to me. Or what's going on. It's been clear in recent conversations that he's reporting to someone regularly, who is controlling his decisions, and it isn't President Trump.

With regards to the siblings, there is something very artificial and aggressive about them. Almost as if they were bred and raised as Manchurian assets. Wow!

NICOLE: So keep in mind, I was responding to Dr. Suzanne Humphries.

Who was also expressing very similar sentiment.

GLENN: Concern. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

NICOLE: Concern. There's better candidates.

So what's going on? I also heard from other MDs in the field.

That there was another doctor that RFK had wanted for the position. Very, very qualified doctor.

And -- and, you know, he was caught by surprise as well. By -- by this other choice.

So, you know, there's -- again, they -- they don't call it the swamp for no reason. Right?

GLENN: Right.

NICOLE: And, you know, I'm not officially within the administration at all.

In fact, I decided to take the path of staying an independent --

GLENN: Smart.

NICOLE: -- media person. Which I think -- I think and you know this, Glenn. It's really important that when you are an independent media voice, that you -- you stick by your principles. And that you are not just a mouthpiece for any government organizations.

That you're really on the outside, reflecting back the hopes and wishes of the constituents.

GLENN: Yeah. There's -- it's very hard to do.

I mean, I take stances against the president.

And for the president. You always have to -- you always have to balance, you know, I have my opinion.

And I'm never going to be bought out by anybody.

I'm never. But you also want to make sure that you're being fair to the people that you trust. And I know you have trusted RFK for a very, very long time.

And for what struck me on this. Is, you know, I don't know if RFK lied to me. Which I hope he didn't, or what's going on. It's been clear in recent conversation that he is reporting to someone regularly, who is controlling his decisions.

That's a remarkable thing to say, especially about RFK.

Because he does not strike me as somebody who is afraid of somebody else.

NICOLE: You know, I don't know if it's fear or that he's playing political 4D chess. And, again, they don't call it the swamp for no reason.

It's just, at some point, there's certain decisions, that are worth fighting for.

And I do appreciate what a very complex political environment this is.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

NICOLE: And I do understand that even within these agencies, there are groups that are intentionally keeping and withholding information from the new leadership.

So, you know, I -- I fully appreciate how complicated it is.

So I fully appreciate how complicated it all is, but there are definitely things that the base is -- is, you know, like, this is an easy one. This could have gone better. Right?

You don't truly -- and, you know, everyone is guessing what precisely this 4D chess is all about. And why these moves are being made. And trying to anticipate the next one.

But it's something that I think that, you know, there's just certain things that indicate that whomever he's giving -- whoever his chess coach is. Could be making some better decisions for him. And --

GLENN: But Casey.

I mean, when I talk to the twins, during -- or after COVID.

They seemed pretty clear on what was bad and what was good.

They -- they both seemed to be good on -- on COVID. And the vaccines. Didn't they?

Or is my memory --

JEFFY: They talk a great talk.

I will say, I was once a fan of it as well.

It was only after I received many comments from individuals, in and around the transition team.

As well as new research that came up.

And then really, like, you know, when the base expresses these things and provides that degree of inquiry, and it shows that kind of concern.

I think we owe it to them.

GLENN: Yes. I agree. I agree.

ANNA: Yeah.

GLENN: So overall, how do you feel things are going?

NICOLE: I think, again, there's been a lot of focus around food dives. Meanwhile, there's millions of people suffering from vaccine injuries, that still feel very neglected.

So I do think -- I do appreciate the executive order, regarding gain of function and limiting overseas research.

GLENN: And shutting down a dangerous -- and shutting down a very dangerous bio lab here.

NICOLE: Yes. And there are many of these bio labs that are kind of flying under the radar.

GLENN: Right.

NICOLE: So it's a big step in the right decisions sedition. I'm a huge Jay Bhattacharya fan. Probably one of his biggest.

I really am excited for him, as he built out his team.

I hope, he has a very, very strong team around him. In the next coming weeks. Because he's going need to it.

As far as HHS goes, you know, I would love to see Bobby bring in more of those doctors that have been around him for the last ten years, very regularly.

Because these are the individuals that, you know, I -- I trust these people with my life. They have sacrificed everything to do the right thing time and time again.

They are so deeply principled. They will never take a check over helping a patient out.

And they actually do have the answers. So I'm hoping to see more of those people around Bobby too.

GLENN: So I'm wondering because this is the way I feel about a couple of things with the FBI. And Intel.

That if I don't see some people in the next year or so, go to jail, or at least brought in for a fair and honest trial, you know. I don't want to just scoop people up. And just assume that they're guilty.

But build a good, strong case. Bring it to trial.

Have it a fair and honest trial. And let the chips fall where they may.

But if I don't see some prosecution, at least. I think I'm very upset at the G O.J.

Pam Bondi. Head of the FBI. Kash Patel. And I don't -- and I'm trusting them so far, that they are doing that.

Do you feel the same way at all, about -- you know, if you don't see some people who go to jail there, that clearly lied about the vaccines.

If they don't go to jail. You have -- you really haven't fixed anything.

You're just eating around the edges.

NICOLE: Yeah. Yeah. I think that really explains it. And this is why I think it's important to continue to voice those concerns, because they're only going to grow and mount.

And it really is the American people, that were sold this vision of accountability.

And as we want to see it. We have to see it. Anywhere. Several months into the administration now.

HHS, you know, lags behind the Oval Office in terms of getting going.

But they're -- people were seriously injured. There were many crimes committed against the American public.

Crimes committed against our bravest doctors. Crimes committed against children.

We need accountability.

We really, really need to see that.

Because, you know, there's -- there's a preciousness in this moment. We have to -- we have to deliver. This country deserves it.

GLENN: And, I mean, if we're -- if we can't correct the things that, for instance. Washington State. Just passed a law where if there is another pandemic, everybody seems to be, you know, claiming there's another one, right around the corner.

But if there is another pandemic, that they will have absolute control, over what you put into your body. And what you do. That's terrifying.

NICOLE: I do.

And those emergency orders, they will scrutinize them. They have revisions.

GLENN: Washington State just revised it to just codify it. Washington State just codified it. It's crazy.

NICOLE: Yeah. Yeah.

So I would like to see more focus around that, not Red Dye 40 and not Kellogg's.

I'm totally fine leaving Kellogg's alone, in favor of HHS spending. All of its energy. And all of its focus. And all of its leverage, making sure that we are actually properly ready for the next pandemic.

And not to cause the catastrophic harm, that was caused during COVID-19.

GLENN: Nicole Shanahan. She's got the podcast Back To the People. And it's now coming to Blaze Media.

It's the same podcast she's been doing. Now as she says, with a wider reach. Glad to have you.

Nicole, thank you very much.

NICOLE: Thanks, it's a pleasure to come on.

GLENN: We'll talk to you again.

Is America’s Grid a Ticking Time Bomb? Trump’s Energy Secretary REACTS | Glenn TV | Ep 430

President Trump is working hard to right the wrongs of the Biden administration. But did Biden harm our energy grid even more than we thought? While Glenn was on vacation in Italy, two other European countries — Spain and Portugal — suffered one of the biggest blackouts in their history. The mainstream media, as they always do, rushed to blame it on ANYTHING other than the countries’ heavy reliance on unreliable green energy. But Glenn has the receipts and the evidence that leftists tried to make America’s grid just as unreliable. Glenn speaks with Energy Secretary Chris Wright about how the Trump administration is reversing these dangerous policies. Secretary Wright also discusses his department’s discovery that Biden shoveled out $93 BILLION in energy loans after Kamala Harris lost the 2024 election and before Trump could take office. Plus, he comments on Trump’s plans to deal with OPEC, why Trump must refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and why Trump is planning the biggest energy project in American history to help accommodate AI. But first, Glenn recaps the biggest media lies that he missed while on vacation. Topping the list: Are these elitists like Axios and Jen Psaki finally admitting that they lied about Biden’s cognitive decline, or do they STILL not get that their charade is over?

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Is the New American Pope Catholic? | Bishop Strickland | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 256

A new pope has been chosen! As the recording of this episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast" began, white smoke emerged from the Sistine Chapel, signaling the selection of the first American pope. Glenn and Bishop Joseph Strickland react live to the news as the whole world wonders if Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, now Pope Leo XIV, will continue in the ways of his predecessor Pope Francis or go a more traditional route. Bishop Strickland, who was removed from office by Pope Francis, says the former pope pushed a church “in the world and of the world” and reviews “duplicity,” “corruption,” and potential abuse overlooked by the Vatican, including the infamous McCarrick scandal. The pair discuss the resurgence of the Latin Mass, globalism, the Catholic Church’s approach to homosexuality and gender identity, and whether the Shroud of Turin is an “icon” or a “relic.” As the new pope greets the world, Glenn asks, “If we have a more progressive pope, does that set the Church back?” Bishop Strickland advises that “even if we are disappointed and dismayed,” we must pray and keep our focus on God.

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Meta’s AI “Friends” Nightmare: How Zuckerberg’s Latest Move Could Enslave Your Mind

Meta and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg has a new goal: to give lonely Americans AI “friends.” But Glenn sounds the alarm: this must NEVER happen! Glenn explains the hidden danger in Zuckerberg’s seemingly kindhearted plan: “AI cannot, must not, and will never be your friend.” Opening that door will only give Meta insane levels of potential for manipulation and control over you.

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GLENN: Let's start with this: Mark Zuckerberg. Good guy. I mean, he brought us Facebook.

And, you know, that is the thing that brought all of us together.

Brought out families together. All the people that we lost touch with.

Oh, the world is so much better now that we have Facebook.

So now, he's got another idea. Could we play the clip of Mark Zuckerberg?

VOICE: There's a stat that I honestly think is crazy. The average American has I think it's fewer than three friends. Three people they consider friends. And the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's 15 friends or something.

I guess there's probably at some point, I'm too busy. I can't deal with more people. But the average person wants more connectivity, connection than they have. So, you know, there's a lot of questions that people ask.

Of stuff like, okay. Is this going to replace kind of in person connections or real life connections?

And my default is that the answer to that is probably no.

I think it -- it -- I think that there are all these things that are better kind of about physical connections, when you can have them.

But the reality is that people just don't have the connection when they feel more alone, a lot of the time, than they would like.

GLENN: Hmm. True.

Now, let me ask you. Is there a time when you don't remember feeling so isolated? When you didn't really feel like I don't have any real friends?

When you didn't -- you had real connections with people, instead of a million connections with people that are your friends, but not really your friends?

Can you think of a time, way back in history?

I mean, probably have to go back to the cavemen, to find a time.

Oh. Before Facebook, and social media!

When we weren't all killing ourself, because we have no meaning.

Now, from the people who brought you kill yourself, because you've been on Facebook too much.

Brings you new AI friends. Oh, this is going to be good.

By the way, you know, that's a crazy stat, I think the average American has, what? Three friends. And they have a capacity for, I don't know. Fifteen or 20. I don't know.

Really think about it right now.

How many true friends, do you have?

How many true friends?

People that when you are down and out, there is nothing -- the whole world is against you!

That that person will actually stand by your side. And go, yeah.

I'm their friend.

And I don't care what you say.

How many? How many do you have?

I think I would count myself lucky if I have three.

Now, I have a lot of consequences.

I have a lot of people who we all think are friends. But as a recovering alcoholic, I've been there.

I've done that. As a recovering alcoholic,
who then also is a conservative and spoke out about the Obama administration, I know who my friends are.
I know who my friends are not.

And I think there's a lot of people that have counterfeit friends.

If you've got. Oh, I've got ten or 15 friends.

Eh.

No, you don't. No, you don't.

I've always grown up thinking, you're lucky, you're lucky, to have three, five, really good friends.

That will walk through anything with you. Do you agree with that, Stu?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: You've never been there.

STU: For you? Oh, God no. But I'm just saying, generally speaking. No. I think -- I mean, you're describing a great friend. You're describing a really --

GLENN: A real friend.

STU: Yeah. Like someone you know and stick around for multiple decades.

GLENN: Yeah, I have lots of friends. You know what I mean? I have millions of Facebook friends.

STU: Right. Those aren't real.

GLENN: Right. And I have lots of friends. But the ones that are there for you always, no matter what, I have family.

And I have family.

STU: Right.

GLENN: And I have a handful of friends. I would consider you one of those.

STU: Thank you. I would as well.

GLENN: Why?

Remember, I have a drinking problem.

STU: Yeah. A lot of brain cells killed to make that decision.

But I think that you -- yes. I think the only thing that I think I'm drilling down a little bit on to try to understand. When you say, well, I have a lot of friends.

In a way, I think that's what Zuckerberg is talking about.

It's not even necessarily a great friend that you have for multiple decades. And can count on at any time.

Just the mid-level consequences, are drying up for a lot of people.

GLENN: Yeah. And why is that?

Why is that?

Because we don't talk to each other anymore.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Because of social media.

You know, when this generation says, I don't know.

I just think it's weird. I'm just now in a bar someplace.

And some stranger comes up to me and wants to strike up a conversation. I'm like, hello, weirdo. I don't know!

You think it's less weird to go online?
When people can fake everything!

Thank you, Mark Zuckerberg.

But no thanks. Okay.

STU: And they're just -- to build up on this point for one second.

There's a study that came out, the last 20 years, of how much time do you spend socializing with the people.

Again, that's not with your best friends.

This is just socializing with anyone, a human.

Every single group. Every single group has massive drops.

GLENN: Massive.

STU: Massive drops. Just give you some examples.

Ages. Fifteen to 24-year-olds. Thirty-five-point down.

In 20 years. 35 percent. So a typical 15-year-old, as compared to what they are, in 2003 and 2025, where were the two measurement years?

They're spending 35 percent less time, with other human beings.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on just a second. Can you please stop distracting me? Because I'm trying to figure out why our kids are killing themselves.

STU: No, it's really hard.

GLENN: It's very hard to figure out.

STU: To understand.

And this is the coup de grâce of this entire study, which is, the typical female pet owner spends more time actively engaged with her pet, than she spends face-to-face contact with her friends of her own species.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: That is unbelievable -- not like you're in the same house as your cat.

Right? No. More face-to-face time with your cat!

GLENN: And I've got news for you. If you think your cat is your friend, wait until you die, and your cat is trapped in the house with you and you have no friends to check. They will eat your face.

STU: They will still have a use for you.

GLENN: Yeah. They will have a use foy.

STU: Not the other way around.

GLENN: Okay. Here's why I'm bringing this up today.

This is a lie, that is going to be sold to you, like crazy. And it's going to be wrapped in a beautiful, shiny package. And it's going to have from Mark Zuckerberg and others like him, on the tag.

They want you to believe, that AI and bots can be your friends.

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