GLENN: Ami is a good friend of the program and a documentary filmmaker. And he was over in Sweden. He did the Stockholm syndrome, which is a documentary -- short documentary that everybody should watch because it is absolutely the truth of what is happening over in Sweden. Ami, welcome to the program.
AMI: It's a real pleasure to be back, Glenn.
GLENN: Yeah. Now, so, Ami, are you the guy who Donald Trump was talking about, do you know?
AMI: Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.
GLENN: Can you tell -- okay. What happened? What's really going on here?
AMI: Are we talking about Sweden, or are we talking about the controversy?
GLENN: First, let's talk about the controversy.
AMI: Well, so what happened was, I came out with this video, Stockholm Syndrome that you teased before. And it came out about, oh, two months ago. And it did fairly well. Got a fair amount of press. Did a few million digital views, about typical of what my videos do.
And then a month and a half passes, and Tucker Carlson from Fox News wanted to have me on as a guest. He was talking about Sweden as an example of the problems that refugees are facing in terms of immigration within countries. And he said, "Hey, why don't you come on and talk about the video." I said, "Great." So we talk about the video, no problem.
Saturday night, I'm at a bar mitzvah, and my phone starts to blow up. I'm like, "What is going on?" And people are telling me it seems like the president just referenced your interview with Tucker Carlson. I said, "That sounds interesting." And I heard what the president said.
It sounded a little bit weird. It could be interpreted in a couple different ways. And if you are negative against the president, you could interpret it that he was making up some terror attack. If you have more sympathy toward the president, you would say, well, he was really referring last night to the interview. He just kind of stumbled on his words, which he's apt to do.
And all of a sudden, man, this becomes this global international scandal that I find myself in the middle of this maelstrom. It's absolutely insane.
GLENN: Now, it's sane because now let's talk about the documentary.
Ami, I was there a year ago doing a documentary on exactly the same thing. Sweden is one of the greatest countries, I think in the world. It is -- it is wildly socialist, but it's pretty easy to be socialist when it's homogenized as Sweden is.
Everybody looks the same. Everybody, you know, comes from the same background, et cetera, et cetera. So there's no real strife in Sweden historically.
But they have prided themselves in being the -- the healers of the world. They're just a different group of people. And I love them for this.
The problem is, is they give free housing, free clothing, free food, free everything to refugees.
AMI: Free cash. Free cash.
GLENN: Free cash. And so the refugees are pouring into Sweden. And I was in those no-go zones. I stood at that same strip mall where you were assaulted and I was almost assaulted and 60 Minutes --
AMI: Liar. Liar. Liar. There are no-go zones. Nobody gets through these places. That's what I'm hearing all day long from Sweden.
GLENN: I know. I know. And what's interesting is, you were -- in your documentary, you have the audio because they told you to turn the cameras off, and you wisely did. But then, you know, like the -- like the bull in a China shop that you are, you stayed and just started asking a simple question, why? What is the problem with filming here? And they beat you up.
GLENN: And it's all on tape.
AMI: Yep. Yep.
GLENN: Hang on. Then what's amazing is you spoke to the Swedes afterwards, and they all say there's no problem.
AMI: That's the most amazing -- and that's maybe -- now, considering I got my butt kicked, I still found that last part of the video where I interviewed Swedes, and they deny any problem. Maybe the troubling aspect of this whole thing is that they are the self-denial -- it borders on the pathological. They are doing whatever they can to avoid the reality of the truth.
And if that means make up fake statistics, they'll make them up. If that means to say that you weren't beat up, then that's what they're going to say.
Their narrative of being a humanitarian superpower is something -- they're so proud of it. They'll come up with these happy stats, right? Happy stats. We're all good. Everything is good. And just deny the reality on the ground. And it's sad, it's confounding, and they're trying to do the right thing. Don't get me wrong. They're trying to reach out and do this selfless act of humanity. But like the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished. And, boy, are they being punished.
GLENN: Yeah, no, I will tell you -- this is why I love the Swedes so much. They have a different attitude. They really do believe that they are the -- you know, America sees itself as the savior of the world. We march in and we take care of things.
They see themselves as the beachhead of the -- the hospital of the world that takes in all of those who are, you know, having some sort of problem and brings them to their shores and heals them. But it's not what's happening.
And listen to the amount of denial to the country which has now become the rape capital of the world. Listen to the people from the Ami Horowitz documentary.
VOICE: First Islamic terrorist attack.
GLENN: Here it is.
VOICE: Do you think the sexual assault problem is an Islamic problem, or not really?
VOICE: No, no, no. I think it's a general problem among -- among men.
VOICE: Yeah, the problem isn't like this culture or that culture. The problem is male culture.
VOICE: I don't think the immigrant is a problem.
VOICE: No, it's not. Like, that's just, like, a tiny, tiny bit of the problem. And, like, when that happens, it's because we didn't, like, bring -- bring the men in the right way.
VOICE: And I don't see that connection at all.
STU: It's our fault.
VOICE: I would very much like to see the evidence of such a connection.
VOICE: Do you think it's racist to make that connection?
VOICE: Yes, I think so.
PAT: That's unbelievable. How did we not bring them in, in the right way? And that caused them to rape?
AMI: We didn't give them enough money or housing or food or clothing or education.
PAT: Is that -- do you think that's what he was actually saying, that Sweden didn't give them enough?
PAT: Wow. I mean, that's incredible.
GLENN: Now, there are parts of Sweden where -- and we were there. I was at that -- I was at the scene of the riots at that police station where you were at. And, Ami, I don't know if you got this. I'm sure you did. But as soon as we got out of the media truck, because we were white, there was an immediate stop on the street. I mean, I've never felt so uncomfortable so fast as I did in that location.
And that's before I went to that little strip mall.
AMI: Dude, I've rolled with the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo. I've interviewed Hamas in Gaza. I've been in some pretty rough places. And I got to say, when I walked in that area with my crew, I felt naked, and I felt endangered. And that was the only place where I got my butt kicked. None of those other places -- I was in Venezuela, man. Some people shot in front of me. But that was the only place where people actually attacked me. And that police station that you were referencing, it got so dangerous for the police to have a presence there, that they actually moved the police station out of the area.
I want to be really clear about something, these no-go zones. Those are not my words. If you watched the documentary, the short video I did, the police who I'm interviewing say these are no-go zones.
AMI: They said these are states within a state, where Swedish law doesn't apply, Glenn. This is where we are at, with Sweden. You have little fiefdoms of Sharia law. The Swedish law doesn't apply. And there, the Swedes are telling us -- you didn't get to the last person who I talked to. I was like, "Is there enough? Is there a point where you can't take anymore in?" She said, "No, huge country. We can take them all."
GLENN: So, Ami, this was not controversial just a year ago. I mean, you know, when I did this, it was not controversial to say -- when Barack Obama was in office, it was not controversial to say it is the rape capital of the world. That -- I think what is it, one out of every five women in Sweden now will be raped?
AMI: Yeah. I don't know that stat so much. I do know this -- I know that when you see -- it's the rape capital of Europe for sure.
The stats are -- and this is what is clear. When rape has plummeted all across western Europe and the United States, right? Rape is up 50 percent in Europe. When -- murder -- murder -- forget rape for a second. Put that aside. Murder is down everywhere in the United States, murder is down everywhere in western Europe. Since 2012 till now, murder is up 80 percent. These are undeniable unimpeachable stats. But you have these Swedes -- listen, when they were trying to debunk my video on CNN and NBC, they'll trot all these fools, and they'll all try to give some bogus stat, that this isn't true. Those are the raw numbers from the Swedish security -- I'm sorry, the Swedish Statistic Bureau. They keep all the crime stats. These are numbers which cannot be disputed. You tell me if there's a problem.
STU: Because one of the things that they say is that in Sweden, they just report rapes more often than in other countries.
GLENN: Then why did it start in the last four years?
AMI: Let's assume that's true. First of all, it's not true. Let's assume that's true for a second. It doesn't matter. If rape is up every single year, that's the culture of reporting rapes more often than not if that isn't true. But the numbers are still up 50 percent. You see what I'm saying? It doesn't make a difference.
GLENN: Right. So did they just start reporting them?
GLENN: No. There's something -- if that's who they are, okay. We'll accept that.
But why -- why has rape gone through the roof in the last few years?
AMI: Right. That's the question. So here's the thing: I say, what's the correlation between Islam and the rapes? It's so interesting about how they try to cover these things up.
So in 2001, the last year, Sweden kept stats on the demographic of perpetrators. And lo and behold, 70 percent of all perpetrators were immigrants into Sweden.
So they said, that's a stat we don't like. So they scrubbed the stat so now you can't find the demographic because they scrubbed it away. Now, what we do know is this, that the rise in rape and the rise in murder dovetails almost exactly with the extreme rise in Islamic immigration. We know that. We know that two-thirds of the people that are raped do not know their perpetrator in Sweden, which is the exact opposite of the United States.
And none of them -- and the most important part is nobody has an alternative theory on why these rapes and murders are going up. The only plausible one, Occam's razor, the one you're left with, the simplest answer, is that it is correlated to Islamic -- Islamic immigration.
And every cop will tell you -- ask a cop off camera. Do you -- when you arrest people, what's their background?
Every single cop will say -- and I spoke to dozens of them. The majority people we arrest are from Islamic backgrounds.
That doesn't mean to say, I'm saying we should ban all Islamic people from every country in the world.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you have an open border policy like we did -- like Sweden has and like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wanted to have, this is what the result is going to be.
GLENN: Ami, thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Always good to talk to you. The name of the documentary is -- is Stockholm syndrome, and you can find it on YouTube. It runs about. Ten minutes.
STU: It's funny too, you can say all you want that rapes are not going up because they're not being reported. Which is always strange and a difficult-to-measure metric. But really, there's a difficult thing to make that case on murders.
You know, people tend to report all the time that their friends are murdered. Like all -- every time a murder happens, we know because there's a body.
GLENN: What's really interesting is when I was over there -- and he said the key words: When off camera -- when off camera. When I would talk to people on camera, they would all say, you know, everything is great. When I would talk to people just one on one, they would tell you the real story. They would say, everything has just gone insane. You know, white blonde women are a target because you're not Islamic. Generally speaking, you're not Islamic.
And the Islamic teachings from these radical mosques that they come from are teaching you that you're -- you know, you are -- you can be a slave. So I can -- I can rape you all I want, and it -- and Allah doesn't have a problem with that because you're subhuman.
STU: Luckily, there's no white, blonde women in Sweden.