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Filmmaker Beaten in Sweden Reveals Why the European Rape Crisis Is Being Ignored

If you listen to the mainstream media, there's a weird thing going on. All of a sudden, Sweden doesn't have a problem. Sweden doesn't have a rape crisis. Sweden is just fine with its massive influx of refugees. However, the facts are indisputable. Sweden is now the rape capital of the west.

Yet the facts are tossed aside for an alternate reality that borders on the pathological. No one knows this better than Ami Horowitz, producer of Stockholm Syndrome, a documentary about Sweden's rape crisis, who was beaten by Muslim immigrants after going into a so-called "no-go zone."

Glenn had a similar experience in Sweden, but left just shy of things becoming physical.

"I was at the place where CBS reporters got into a fight over their camera. We had to leave because our security pushed us out," Glenn said Tuesday on radio. "They said, as we got into the car, we were minutes away from a riot because we were even there."

Ami joined Glenn to discuss his experience in Sweden and President Trump's nonsensical tweet, which has garnered more interest from the press than the atrocities actually taking place throughout Europe.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: Ami is a good friend of the program and a documentary filmmaker. And he was over in Sweden. He did the Stockholm syndrome, which is a documentary -- short documentary that everybody should watch because it is absolutely the truth of what is happening over in Sweden. Ami, welcome to the program.

AMI: It's a real pleasure to be back, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. Now, so, Ami, are you the guy who Donald Trump was talking about, do you know?

AMI: Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed.

GLENN: Can you tell -- okay. What happened? What's really going on here?

AMI: Are we talking about Sweden, or are we talking about the controversy?

GLENN: First, let's talk about the controversy.

AMI: Well, so what happened was, I came out with this video, Stockholm Syndrome that you teased before. And it came out about, oh, two months ago. And it did fairly well. Got a fair amount of press. Did a few million digital views, about typical of what my videos do.

And then a month and a half passes, and Tucker Carlson from Fox News wanted to have me on as a guest. He was talking about Sweden as an example of the problems that refugees are facing in terms of immigration within countries. And he said, "Hey, why don't you come on and talk about the video." I said, "Great." So we talk about the video, no problem.

Saturday night, I'm at a bar mitzvah, and my phone starts to blow up. I'm like, "What is going on?" And people are telling me it seems like the president just referenced your interview with Tucker Carlson. I said, "That sounds interesting." And I heard what the president said.

It sounded a little bit weird. It could be interpreted in a couple different ways. And if you are negative against the president, you could interpret it that he was making up some terror attack. If you have more sympathy toward the president, you would say, well, he was really referring last night to the interview. He just kind of stumbled on his words, which he's apt to do.

And all of a sudden, man, this becomes this global international scandal that I find myself in the middle of this maelstrom. It's absolutely insane.

GLENN: Now, it's sane because now let's talk about the documentary.

Ami, I was there a year ago doing a documentary on exactly the same thing. Sweden is one of the greatest countries, I think in the world. It is -- it is wildly socialist, but it's pretty easy to be socialist when it's homogenized as Sweden is.

Everybody looks the same. Everybody, you know, comes from the same background, et cetera, et cetera. So there's no real strife in Sweden historically.

But they have prided themselves in being the -- the healers of the world. They're just a different group of people. And I love them for this.

The problem is, is they give free housing, free clothing, free food, free everything to refugees.

AMI: Free cash. Free cash.

GLENN: Free cash. And so the refugees are pouring into Sweden. And I was in those no-go zones. I stood at that same strip mall where you were assaulted and I was almost assaulted and 60 Minutes --

AMI: Liar. Liar. Liar. There are no-go zones. Nobody gets through these places. That's what I'm hearing all day long from Sweden.

GLENN: I know. I know. And what's interesting is, you were -- in your documentary, you have the audio because they told you to turn the cameras off, and you wisely did. But then, you know, like the -- like the bull in a China shop that you are, you stayed and just started asking a simple question, why? What is the problem with filming here? And they beat you up.

AMI: Yeah.

GLENN: And it's all on tape.

AMI: Yep. Yep.

GLENN: Hang on. Then what's amazing is you spoke to the Swedes afterwards, and they all say there's no problem.

AMI: That's the most amazing -- and that's maybe -- now, considering I got my butt kicked, I still found that last part of the video where I interviewed Swedes, and they deny any problem. Maybe the troubling aspect of this whole thing is that they are the self-denial -- it borders on the pathological. They are doing whatever they can to avoid the reality of the truth.

And if that means make up fake statistics, they'll make them up. If that means to say that you weren't beat up, then that's what they're going to say.

Their narrative of being a humanitarian superpower is something -- they're so proud of it. They'll come up with these happy stats, right? Happy stats. We're all good. Everything is good. And just deny the reality on the ground. And it's sad, it's confounding, and they're trying to do the right thing. Don't get me wrong. They're trying to reach out and do this selfless act of humanity. But like the saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished. And, boy, are they being punished.

GLENN: Yeah, no, I will tell you -- this is why I love the Swedes so much. They have a different attitude. They really do believe that they are the -- you know, America sees itself as the savior of the world. We march in and we take care of things.

They see themselves as the beachhead of the -- the hospital of the world that takes in all of those who are, you know, having some sort of problem and brings them to their shores and heals them. But it's not what's happening.

And listen to the amount of denial to the country which has now become the rape capital of the world. Listen to the people from the Ami Horowitz documentary.

VOICE: First Islamic terrorist attack.

GLENN: Here it is.

VOICE: Do you think the sexual assault problem is an Islamic problem, or not really?

VOICE: No, no, no. I think it's a general problem among -- among men.

VOICE: Yeah, the problem isn't like this culture or that culture. The problem is male culture.

PAT: Wow.

VOICE: I don't think the immigrant is a problem.

VOICE: No, it's not. Like, that's just, like, a tiny, tiny bit of the problem. And, like, when that happens, it's because we didn't, like, bring -- bring the men in the right way.

VOICE: And I don't see that connection at all.

PAT: What?

STU: It's our fault.

VOICE: I would very much like to see the evidence of such a connection.

VOICE: Do you think it's racist to make that connection?

VOICE: Yes, I think so.

PAT: That's unbelievable. How did we not bring them in, in the right way? And that caused them to rape?

AMI: We didn't give them enough money or housing or food or clothing or education.

PAT: Is that -- do you think that's what he was actually saying, that Sweden didn't give them enough?

AMI: Yes.

PAT: Wow. I mean, that's incredible.

GLENN: Now, there are parts of Sweden where -- and we were there. I was at that -- I was at the scene of the riots at that police station where you were at. And, Ami, I don't know if you got this. I'm sure you did. But as soon as we got out of the media truck, because we were white, there was an immediate stop on the street. I mean, I've never felt so uncomfortable so fast as I did in that location.

And that's before I went to that little strip mall.

AMI: Dude, I've rolled with the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo. I've interviewed Hamas in Gaza. I've been in some pretty rough places. And I got to say, when I walked in that area with my crew, I felt naked, and I felt endangered. And that was the only place where I got my butt kicked. None of those other places -- I was in Venezuela, man. Some people shot in front of me. But that was the only place where people actually attacked me. And that police station that you were referencing, it got so dangerous for the police to have a presence there, that they actually moved the police station out of the area.

I want to be really clear about something, these no-go zones. Those are not my words. If you watched the documentary, the short video I did, the police who I'm interviewing say these are no-go zones.

GLENN: Yep.

AMI: They said these are states within a state, where Swedish law doesn't apply, Glenn. This is where we are at, with Sweden. You have little fiefdoms of Sharia law. The Swedish law doesn't apply. And there, the Swedes are telling us -- you didn't get to the last person who I talked to. I was like, "Is there enough? Is there a point where you can't take anymore in?" She said, "No, huge country. We can take them all."

GLENN: So, Ami, this was not controversial just a year ago. I mean, you know, when I did this, it was not controversial to say -- when Barack Obama was in office, it was not controversial to say it is the rape capital of the world. That -- I think what is it, one out of every five women in Sweden now will be raped?

AMI: Yeah. I don't know that stat so much. I do know this -- I know that when you see -- it's the rape capital of Europe for sure.

The stats are -- and this is what is clear. When rape has plummeted all across western Europe and the United States, right? Rape is up 50 percent in Europe. When -- murder -- murder -- forget rape for a second. Put that aside. Murder is down everywhere in the United States, murder is down everywhere in western Europe. Since 2012 till now, murder is up 80 percent. These are undeniable unimpeachable stats. But you have these Swedes -- listen, when they were trying to debunk my video on CNN and NBC, they'll trot all these fools, and they'll all try to give some bogus stat, that this isn't true. Those are the raw numbers from the Swedish security -- I'm sorry, the Swedish Statistic Bureau. They keep all the crime stats. These are numbers which cannot be disputed. You tell me if there's a problem.

STU: Because one of the things that they say is that in Sweden, they just report rapes more often than in other countries.

GLENN: Then why did it start in the last four years?

AMI: Let's assume that's true. First of all, it's not true. Let's assume that's true for a second. It doesn't matter. If rape is up every single year, that's the culture of reporting rapes more often than not if that isn't true. But the numbers are still up 50 percent. You see what I'm saying? It doesn't make a difference.

STU: Right.

GLENN: Right. So did they just start reporting them?

STU: No.

GLENN: No. There's something -- if that's who they are, okay. We'll accept that.

But why -- why has rape gone through the roof in the last few years?

AMI: Right. That's the question. So here's the thing: I say, what's the correlation between Islam and the rapes? It's so interesting about how they try to cover these things up.

So in 2001, the last year, Sweden kept stats on the demographic of perpetrators. And lo and behold, 70 percent of all perpetrators were immigrants into Sweden.

So they said, that's a stat we don't like. So they scrubbed the stat so now you can't find the demographic because they scrubbed it away. Now, what we do know is this, that the rise in rape and the rise in murder dovetails almost exactly with the extreme rise in Islamic immigration. We know that. We know that two-thirds of the people that are raped do not know their perpetrator in Sweden, which is the exact opposite of the United States.

And none of them -- and the most important part is nobody has an alternative theory on why these rapes and murders are going up. The only plausible one, Occam's razor, the one you're left with, the simplest answer, is that it is correlated to Islamic -- Islamic immigration.

And every cop will tell you -- ask a cop off camera. Do you -- when you arrest people, what's their background?

Every single cop will say -- and I spoke to dozens of them. The majority people we arrest are from Islamic backgrounds.

That doesn't mean to say, I'm saying we should ban all Islamic people from every country in the world.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you have an open border policy like we did -- like Sweden has and like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wanted to have, this is what the result is going to be.

GLENN: Ami, thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Always good to talk to you. The name of the documentary is -- is Stockholm syndrome, and you can find it on YouTube. It runs about. Ten minutes.

STU: It's funny too, you can say all you want that rapes are not going up because they're not being reported. Which is always strange and a difficult-to-measure metric. But really, there's a difficult thing to make that case on murders.

You know, people tend to report all the time that their friends are murdered. Like all -- every time a murder happens, we know because there's a body.

GLENN: What's really interesting is when I was over there -- and he said the key words: When off camera -- when off camera. When I would talk to people on camera, they would all say, you know, everything is great. When I would talk to people just one on one, they would tell you the real story. They would say, everything has just gone insane. You know, white blonde women are a target because you're not Islamic. Generally speaking, you're not Islamic.

And the Islamic teachings from these radical mosques that they come from are teaching you that you're -- you know, you are -- you can be a slave. So I can -- I can rape you all I want, and it -- and Allah doesn't have a problem with that because you're subhuman.

STU: Luckily, there's no white, blonde women in Sweden.

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Did USAID Really Fund Chelsea Clinton’s Wedding? Here's the FACTS

As DOGE continues to expose the many, many ways our government has wasted taxpayer dollars, Glenn gives a warning: “You have to be really careful [what you believe] because we don’t want to wreck our credibility.” While the things DOGE has uncovered have been true, there are also a lot of rumors and misinformation spreading online. Glenn addresses some of those rumors, like the seemingly-unfounded claim that USAID helped fund Chelsea Clinton’s wedding through the Clinton Foundation. We must ask questions, but we can’t jump to conclusions without being sure that we have the real facts. Glenn also addresses some provably true stories of government waste, like how the Pentagon overpays for things and why Glenn supports Trump’s decision to stop minting pennies.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Looking at the DOGE stuff, and I want to talk about this next hour.

We have to be really, really careful. Because I don't know about you, but when I heard that we possibly paid for Chelsea Clinton's wedding.

PAT: Yeah. Do we have that substantiated though?

GLENN: We don't. We don't.

And that's why I want to bring that up.

PAT: You have to be careful with that stuff. A ton.

STU: A lot of stuff coming out online.

And you can't quote this stuff. You have to be really, really careful.

Because we just don't want to, A, wreck our credibility.

And, you know, when we find out that it is absolutely true, that's when we can go and say, round them up!

Let's put them court.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah. There's -- there's a viral chart going around that shows Chelsea Clinton got, I don't know. Something like $84 million from the foundation from the Clinton foundation.

And that 3 million of that went to her wedding.

GLENN: Okay. So I think -- I think they did get $84 million.

PAT: I think that went to the foundation, right?

GLENN: Yeah. It went to the foundation.

Got it for the whole run. For Haiti or whatever.

And, you know, we know they spent $84 million in Haiti.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Because look at the place now.

Oh, it's beautiful he has not it's beautiful.

PAT: Well, we were there, how many years after the earthquake.

And it still looked the same. As if the earthquake had just happened. You remember that?

GLENN: Oh, yeah. And the people from Haiti were saying to us, where is the money?

PAT: Where is the $10 billion? Yeah. Because that could have rebuilt. That could have rebuilt the entire country. 10 billion.

GLENN: About four times. About four times over, I think.

PAT: Yep. Yep.

GLENN: I mean, it is -- Haiti is just -- it's a sad, sad situation.

It's been ripped off by everybody in the world over and over again.

And I think the Clintons are, you know, they kind of lead the way on the -- on the charity for Haiti graft.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: But we don't know anything about that. We do know the Clinton initiative got $84 million.

But we don't know any more than that.

And, you know, honestly, if you're spending your tax dollars, I mean, that's what people have to realize.

Even if it is, you know -- even if it is -- it didn't go to Chelsea's wedding.

Which I would be surprised.

I would be shocked, if they were that bold!

PAT: Yeah.

STU: But, you know, this isn't an effective use of your money.

And people who are looking at it, and saying, well, it was only $5 million.

How much money have you paid your entire life in taxes?

Because I guarantee you, it's not going to be $5 million.

It's not! Very few people to have pay $5 million in their lifetime of taxes.

So that means, that everything that you paid. Everything that you worked for. When you work four months a year, to pay your income tax.

All of that has been wasted, your entire life.

I don't know!

I'm kind of pissed about that.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I mean, what could you have done with all of that money?

And I -- I just don't -- I don't get people who are, you know, again, like we said, I'm for aid.

I'm absolutely for aid. I'm absolutely for looking at countries, and saying, how can we help you, if it's in our interest, and that's not aid.

That would be development. But I'm not for most of the development that has been happening. I'm not interested in nation building!

You know, so, you know, even if you're for that, are you cool with it going 60 cents on every dollar? To the government officials?

Or to the charitable officials. And only 40 cents of that dollar?

I mean, I'm not happy with that. We've gotten so used to corruption, in our government, on, you know, the Pentagon spent $400 on, you know -- on a toilet seat.

We're so used to that. That we just expect it.

This is not that.

The corruption that we're finding now, is beyond imagination.

It's going to be hard for people to get their arms around, what you're actually looking at.

Because we expect a certain amount of -- unfortunately, a certain amount of corruption.

But nothing like this!

And if you're -- you know, if you are a Democrat and you're inclined, not to believe it.

Okay!

I can understand that.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, for a while.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. And say, I probably would have been skeptical, if Joe Biden -- I would have been skeptical if Joe Biden would have come in and said, we will route out all of the corruption.

I would have thought, well, no.

They're getting rid of anybody who is conservative on corruption.

That's why I'm so excited about the Pentagon because that's going to be a lot of conservative love.

You know what I mean?

So called conservative love. It's just graft and greed and cronyism.

But still, it -- it's -- we're supposed to be in love.

The left is supposed to be in love with aid.

We're supposed to be in love with death. I'm not -- I -- I am not blind to either one of those things.

But go into the Pentagon. I would love to see them take.

At you see the congressman or the senator last week, that held up a bag of bolts, and said, this is about $10 at the store?

It's $10,000, if the Pentagon buys it!

PAT: Jeez.

STU: Where is that money going?

PAT: Incredible.

GLENN: Who is getting that money?
And, you know, you would say, well, they're charging ten thousands of individuals dollars a bolt, because, you know, the aircrafts that they're building.

They're so expensive.

And they can't actually charge the price of what it takes.

No, they're charging us the price with all of the overruns.

All of the hundreds of billions of dollars in overruns.

They're charging us that as well.

So my question is: Where do those billions of dollars end up?

In just the pockets of, what? McDonnell-Douglas?

PAT: Raytheon?

GLENN: Raytheon.

PAT: Congress people?

GLENN: Right!

PAT: You know, a lot. A lot of it -- you know it's winding up in their pocketbooks. Has to be.

GLENN: And you know what really bothers me is, these people are taking our tax dollars. And then they're giving that money, through lobbying. To our politicians. Who are allowing the corruption to happen.

So it's just this giant circular -- I'm just going to leave it at that.

This giant circular, something.

I don't -- I don't know what happens in circles.

But there it is.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: By the way, the other thing that Trump said, first of all, he's getting rid of pennies.

Did you hear that?

Executive order. Thank you!

I mean, you know, takes 3 cents to create 1 cent. What are we doing?

That's the dims thing I've ever, ever seen.

PAT: Yes. Especially when nobody wants pennies. Nobody uses them.

If you ever use cash. And you get pennies back.

You just put it in their take a penny jar, usually.

And don't even want it messing up your pocket.

GLENN: Right. I mean, it's absolutely worthless to the American people.

And it's costing our government 3 cents to make 1 cent.

Finally, the president is -- I mean, all of this stuff is so common sense. That's what's so frustrating about all of this.

Should had it should have been done long ago.

But for some reason, we just couldn't. We've known about the penny thing.

I've known about the penny thing, when it was a cent and a half to make a penny.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: That long ago.

PAT: He's -- he's leaving no stone unturned right now.

You've got the penny thing.

And then he just did the straw situation.

Did you see that?

We're going back to plastic straws.

He signed an executive order, or he is going to. Ending the ridiculous Biden push for paper straws, which don't work. Back to plastic, he tweeted out! Or truthed out.

GLENN: I love that.

PAT: It's just -- it's amazing the things that he's covering, at a breathtaking speed.

GLENN: I love that.

Do we have the CBS anchor trying to explain how Trump's approval ratings are going through the roof? Listen to this. Cut ten.

VOICE: What's driving this?

VOICE: I will keep it simple, Margaret. He's doing what he said he would do in the campaign. There's political value in that. In fact, 70 percent of people say he's doing what he's promised. That's whether they approve of him or not.

Now, there's another part of this that continues over from the campaign. There are words he was described as being tough. Being energetic.

And he still is today, in big majority numbers.

So as people take a look in these first few weeks, there's been a lot of activity. They're getting that general sense of governance. And that's being reflected in these early numbers.

VOICE: So that's perception. What about the actual policies?

VOICE: Well, let's start with the ones that are popular.

Again, these echo the ones we see in the campaign. The idea of deporting those in the country illegally continues to be popular. We saw that in the campaign.

GLENN: 59 percent.

VOICE: Sending troops to the US-Mexico border. Again, majority --

GLENN: 64 percent.

PAT: Wow! Wow.

GLENN: I mean, it is -- and they're just baffled by it. I don't understand. No. Really.

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Trump Border Czar WARNS Cartels, Illegal Immigrants, & Anti-ICE Politicians

White House Border Czar Tom Homan joins Glenn with the latest updates to the illegal immigration crackdown. He lays out why he took the job, how the deportations are going so far, and what’s coming next. Homan also explains why he’s “very concerned” about violent threats from the cartels. But he has a warning for them: “If they harm a SINGLE Border Patrol agent or soldier, President Trump is gonna rain hell down on them and I think he'll wipe them off the face of the earth." Plus, Homan has a message for anti-ICE politicians in sanctuary cities: "[Pam Bondi] will have NO PROBLEM if I recommend prosecution of a politician for impeding or knowingly harboring and concealing an illegal alien.”

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From Reality TV to Deadly Rescue Missions | Diesel Brothers | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 244

When the State or National Guard can’t complete a rescue mission, it’s time to call the Diesel Brothers. “Heavy D” (‪@HeavyDSparks‬) and “Diesel Dave” rose to fame thanks in part to a prank that landed them on Jay Leno's show and then the Discovery Channel. But now they've found a much more meaningful passion. The Diesel Brothers have since carried out multiple rescue missions to recover crashed airplanes and missing persons, making use of their most impressive vehicles. These include Heavy D’s Black Hawk helicopter, which they say leaves the FAA asking, “Who are these guys and how do we know they aren’t going to kill themselves?” In a conversation about trucks, fame, and “rolling coal,” the two men outline their ongoing legal battles with an environmental group in Utah and give their take on the rise of electric vehicles. Heavy D, who has met the president himself, tells Glenn that “Trump has an authentic admiration of Glenn” because he is “legit,” and the three men applaud Trump for not taking on a “God complex” after the assassination attempt. In the end, the two put Glenn in the hot seat, asking him to name the one person — alive or deceased — that he would most want to have dinner with.

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How Trump’s 15% Tax Plan Could UNLEASH American Prosperity

President Trump is working on a plan to lower corporate tax rates to 15% for companies that make their products in the United States. Informal Trump economic advisor and Committee to Unleash Prosperity co-founder Stephen Moore joins Glenn to make the case that this plan, coupled with tariffs, could unleash American prosperity. But Trump might not stop there. Moore addresses whether Trump could get a “15/15/15” tax plan past Congress, meaning 15% corporate tax, 15% income tax, and 15% tariffs. “If he could pull that off,” Glenn argues, “it’s a new world!”

Transcript

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GLENN: Stephen Moore, welcome to the program. Committee to unleash prosperity cofounder.

If I remember right, you've been with me against tariffs for a long time. Have you changed on this?

Because I think I'm changing, Steven.

STEPHEN: Hey, Glenn, good to be with you. Also, I'm an informal adviser to Trump on the economy. And, by the way, he knows that I'm not a huge fan of tariffs. But you set this up very well.

You know, a tariff is basically a consumption tax.

GLENN: Oh, good. Correct.

STEPHEN: It's something you and I talked about over the years is the national retail sales tax replace the income tax. Well, if you did that, you would essentially be taxing everything when it came in to the country.

Because it will be consumed here. And so what Trump is basically talking about, which I think is a really interesting idea, is not necessarily getting rid of the income tax. But lowering all the tax rates to 15 percent. You know, right now, you know, it's 30 percent or more. And then imposing that --

GLENN: I was going to say, what kind of world do you live in? I would celebrate with 30 percent income tax.

STEPHEN: Yeah. Right. If you're really rich, you could be uphill by 40 percent.

So I kind of like that idea. So I go with Trump the other day.

To say, the 15-15-15. So how about we have a 15 percent corporate rate, a 15 percent individual income tax rate, a 15 percent universal tariff, 15 percent capital gains/dividends.

Can you imagine that?

GLENN: It would unleash prosperity like nobody's business.

STEPHEN: Prosperity. Yeah. It would.

No country could compete with us here. Let me give you an example, you know, Glenn, that I think everybody can relate to because you have listeners all over the country.

You know what states in the United States have the biggest in migration right now?

GLENN: Yeah. Florida and Texas.

STEPHEN: And Tennessee.

GLENN: Okay.

STEPHEN: Now, for a bonus question, I know you're supposed to be asking questions. What you know those states have in common?

GLENN: No income tax.

STEPHEN: No income tax. So businesses, capital, and jobs, migrate to the places with low tax rates. So if we have the lowest tax rates in the world, on top of the greatest workers in the world, the freest country in the world, I mean, we would just blow away the rest of the world. And Trump is very -- I don't know. You know, it will be tough to get that done. But that's where he wants to end up.

GLENN: I tell you, that's the problem we've always had with tariffs, for me at least. It's just a tax, and you're already taxing us.

STEPHEN: Right.

GLENN: Well, then buy American, and then you don't to have pay for that tariff.

But I'm are already being taxed a pretty high rate.

Please, I don't want to pay more for things that maybe I want. Or maybe they're cheaper.

Because they're coming from China.

STEPHEN: Yeah. This is a good conversation for people who have this.

Trump said different things at different times.

In my conversation in the last week. It basically was saying, he put it very simply.

He said this to some of the speeches too. What he wants to do is charge a 15 percent tax on things that are made in China. Or, you know, Europe.

GLENN: Right.

STEPHEN: Or Japan.

But if it's made in Michigan or Ohio or Pennsylvania or California or Maine, he wants to have the rate 15 percent.

I'm like, well, I can live with that, Mr. President. I think that's a pretty cool idea.

I mean, I'm an America First guy. I'd rather have people buy things that are made in America, all things equal.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait.

You just said, if it's from China, you're paying 15 percent tariff. But if it's made in America, you say you pay an extra 15 percent. That's zero!

STEPHEN: No. What I'm saying, you're going to pay a 15 percent income tax, if it's made in the United States. In other words, the profits you make on selling something. Let's say you make widgets. And you make a profit in making widget does in Pennsylvania and wherever it is.

GLENN: Right. But to buy that product, if it's made in America, you don't pay any tax!

STEPHEN: No, no, no.

In other words, what you're trying to do is skew the table a little bit more in favor of buying things in the US versus other countries. By the way, that's what other countries do to us.

GLENN: I know. I know.

I have to tell you, I think the way the president is handling really, everything.

I've never seen anything like this, Steven. Have you?

STEPHEN: Me either. No. I've been in the game as long as you have. I have arrived in Washington in the Reagan years.

So I still think Reagan was one of our greatest presidents. I still think Trump, it's interesting. Because whenever we have meetings, with Trump, he's always talking about -- he's very kind of envious. He wants to go down in history, as one of the great presidents like Reagan. To role model that out.

So I think, I think we're -- and he also will understand, Glenn, he's only got really about two years to get it done.

And then we will -- he's a lame duck. He can't run for reelection again. He understands that. That's why he races out of the gate like sectator out of the office.

I think I said on your show a month ago, or so. Buckle up. Because this will be a hell of a ride. And it's only been three weeks.

GLENN: I know. Seven days. And I think he's accomplished more than most presidents have done in their entire term.

STEPHEN: Definitely. Definitely.

GLENN: And I don't think it will stop any time soon.

Because I said, you've got only two years to do this. He said, Glenn, two years. I've got 100 days.

If I don't have all this done in 100 days. It's not going to get done.

STEPHEN: There's a lot of truth to that. There's a lot of truth to that. That's why we have to get this tax cut done.

That's one of my highest priorities is making sure we make the tax cuts that we cashed in 2017 permanent. I want to make sure your listeners understand something.

I think most of your listeners know this. But a lot of people are not aware of it.

If Congress does nothing, everybody's taxes are going to go up next year. Everyone's. You know, we don't want Donald Trump raising taxes on people.

And so we have to get this tax cut done. I like his idea of no tax on tips. I like the idea of no tax on overtime. We'll add some other things on it.

But these are all oriented toward making an American economy great again. And it's going to work!

GLENN: So why aren't we going for 15-15-15, over doing -- you know, making this permanent, why not in just one move try to go for the whole enchilada?

STEPHEN: Well, stick around, my friend, it may happen. We'll see how it turns out.

At the very minimum, we have to make those taxes permanent.

But we may go further than that. We may go with 15-15-15, and that would be a remarkable accomplishment.

And then we will produce American energy. He's already slashed the regulation clause.

So it will make America incredibly competitive.

And the jobs are going to flow here, not in China and Japan, and all the other countries. It's a beautiful thing.

GLENN: We not only have to grow our bottom line, grow our way out of this. Which we can. But we also must cut. It will take I think 65 years at this point. At the speed of DOGE.

And they're cutting like crazy, to actually balance the budget.

Are we going to be able to cut enough?

Is there an appetite for that?

STEPHEN: Well, as I said, I've been in this town for 40 years. And Republicans talk a good game. But when it comes right down to it, we like to spend money just as much as Democrats do. I think, how about what Trump is talking about. About getting rid of all this crazy foreign aid programs. I mean, the left is hyperventilating about this. But those programs never work.

They don't -- they don't need any development. They just create a huge international bureaucracy of people who hate America.

I mean, this guy has -- has a spine of steel. I mean, he really does.

GLENN: He really does. He really does.

Steven, thank you so much. God bless you.

Keep us informed, will you?

STEPHEN: Check in more often.

GLENN: Yeah. I will. I will.

Thank you very much.

Stephen Moore, Committee to Unleash Prosperity.

I have to tell you, I think if he did 15-15-15, it would explode.

PAT: Which is 15 percent flat income tax. Fifteen percent corporate?

GLENN: Corporate. And 15 percent tariff.

PAT: Tariff. Wow.

GLENN: So you don't make it in America. You know how many people -- what's the company that bought Ford and Jaguar and everything?

Stellantis?

Can't remember the name of that company.
But they're now talking about coming back to America. Because of the tariffs. They're going to make the Jeep back in Detroit. They've already moved 1500 jobs back to a factory here in America. They're going to move them also back to Detroit. To make the Jeep back in America. That's what happens.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: If you have a tariff and you have 15 percent tax! This is why -- you know, it's fascinating. This is why, when we were headed towards that global government, this is why the president and all the leaders of the West, tried to get an agreement that there would be a minimum corporate tax. Do you remember that?

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And we were a part of that. A minimum corporate tax. No! No.

We're not going to play -- we're not going to hobble everybody.

If we can work it to our advantage, so we grow, why would we hobble ourselves?

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: And 15-15-15 would blow the world away. Blow it away.

PAT: Because far more competitive than any other industrialized nation.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

The jobs that would be created here.

You would get more money into the coffers of the United States government, because the prosperity would be so high! It would be amazing.

PAT: Yeah.

And to replace the progressive income tax with just a 15 percent flat tax. That -- that would make such a huge difference in American's lives.

GLENN: Think of just this. If we had a flat tax, think of how many dollars are wasted on IRS audits. How many -- how much time is wasted at places like H&R Block.

Your accountant. How much time you spend putting your taxes. Getting the receipts. Figuring it all out.

PAT: My gosh.

GLENN: Think of just the man-hours. Forget about the money that's being lost in preparing it! Just the man-hours.

If you had those man-hours back, what could we be doing with that money and those man-hours?

Just that is game-changing and growing the economy.

Because you have more money, to keep!

And more time to do what you want to do!

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I'm telling you, if he can do 15-15-15, if he can pull that off, it's a new world.

PAT: And Stephen Moore said, it's a possibility. That's pretty amazing!

GLENN: That is amazing. That is amazing.