GLENNMarch 16, 2017

John Ziegler Makes the Case That Joe Paterno Was Set Up

Joe Paterno, who has the most victories of any coach in major college football history, was fired in 2011 by Penn State in the wake of a sexual abuse scandal involving former defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky, and the university’s failure to act to halt further harm. The firing sent shockwaves through the state of Pennsylvania and the US. Sandusky is now serving a sentence of 30-60 years in prison.

John Ziegler, radio talk show host and documentary filmmaker, has followed the case extensively and joined The Glenn Beck Program on Wednesday to discuss how he thinks Paterno was set up --- and Sandusky is innocent.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: Author, writer for Mediaite and host of the podcast, World According To Zig on soundcloud.com. John Ziegler is in the studios with us.

Jerry Sandusky is back in the news right now. If you don't remember the name, give me less-than-a-minute recap of Penn State.

JOHN: In November of 2011, Jerry Sandusky, former defensive coordinator for Penn State, a very famous coach, but had been retired for many years, was arrested on child molestation charges. Joe Paterno was fired, the legendary football coach at Penn State, three days -- three or four days later, along with the president of Penn State, Graham Spanier.

Sandusky was convicted. Penn State paid out almost $100 million in settlements. This week, two Penn State administrators pled guilty to a misdemeanor after the conspiracy charges after five and a half years were dropped. Next week, Graham Spanier, the former president of Penn State, will stand trial on these very same charges. He is innocent. He will not plead guilty, unless something really bizarre happens. And an innocent man's life is on the line.

But to me, Glenn, this story is much bigger than Penn State. Much bigger than even Graham Spaniard's freedom or Joe Paterno's legacy.

I have no collection to Penn State at all. I stupidly got involved in this five and a half years ago because the story, to use a phrase we now are all very familiar with, sounded immediately to me like "fake news." And as you guys know -- we've done some stories together before -- I have a pretty good nose for this kind of thing.

And I have coached high school football in several different states. I've covered college football, pro football. I understand the culture. Have no connection to Penn State. In fact, I actually have disdain for Penn State now, after five and a half years of this. But I also understand the way the news media works. And I got involved in this, just trying to find out what the heck the truth was, presuming that Jerry Sandusky was guilty as hell. That was my presumption at the beginning of this. But the Joe Paterno angle just never made any sense. Because there was this idea that there was a cover-up, that he had been told by an assistant coach, Mike McQueary, that Gary had abused the boy sexually and Paterno did nothing. And Penn State just decided to pretend it never happened. It made no sense for 100 million reasons. But one of which was, Sandusky was retired. He wasn't even part of the program at that point. And not to mention, it didn't fit with the culture of Penn State, nor college football as I know it. Well, as I got deeper and deeper into it --

PAT: And it certainly didn't fit with the character of Joe Paterno.

JOHN: Exactly.

JEFFY: No kidding.

JOHN: Joe Paterno was a stellar coach.

PAT: He's a legend. He's a legend.

JOHN: On and off the field, the most winning coach in the history of college football. But also ran a stellar football program. No hint of scandal. And a guy who was a squeaky clean, you know, 1950's kind of conservative Republican. By the way, friends of the Bush family.

JEFFY: Yeah, beloved.

GLENN: Right. But we -- we oftentimes see people that are -- that are living a double life, and you're like, well, they can't be.

JOHN: Right. Right.

GLENN: It was always the quiet one on the street that ended up having the heads in the refrigerator.

JOHN: Well, I understand that. And that's part -- there's so many elements of the perfect storm here. One of which is that this story breaks in Pennsylvania, not long after the whole Catholic church scandal.

GLENN: Right.

JOHN: And because of that, it sets a prism through which everybody, especially in the news media, they see this. They see Paterno as the Pope. They see the administrators as the cardinals. They see Sandusky, oh, he's the pedophile priest. And they see the Penn State football fans as, oh, these are the Catholic partitioners who love their phenomenal so much, their religion of football, that they're willing to look the other way and pretend that a pedophile didn't really exist. That was a narrative that fit.

GLENN: Yeah, but that narrative is real in many cases. People don't want to look at this stuff.

JOHN: I understand that. But that's what set this case up for a massive injustice.

So as I got involved more and more and I was just looking for the truth, I interviewed Sandusky, not once, but twice in prison for six hours, plus. Went on the Today Show, not once, but twice. The second time Matt Lauer very nicely declared my career to be dead three years ago, this week. But I figured, okay. If you're going to die on a hill, this is a pretty good hill to die on. And trust me, I've taken enough bullets to understand the reality of that.

What I realized was that the only way to make this case make any sense at all is that shockingly, the part of the case that no one took a look at, no one bothered to do the math on, the Jerry Sandusky element is a myth. That Jerry Sandusky is, in fact, innocent. And it's not even close. That's what's so amazing about this.

But we start a domino effect. The Joe Paterno firing. And people who are not from Pennsylvania can't fully understand the psychological impact of the firing of Joe Paterno. This was a nuclear explosion over this entire case. It was like people's entire lives had been turned upside down.

JEFFY: No kidding.

JOHN: This was worse than the Trump election for liberals. Everything is upside down. And in reality, to understand this case fully, you have to understand that the moment of Paterno's firing, all the incentives in this case get flipped upside down. Everybody's incentives are now perverse. All the white hats turn into black hats, and the black hats turn into white hats.

And from that moment on, we have a domino effect of injustice. I like to use the metaphor that this whole case is a painting that everyone looks at and goes, "This makes no damn sense." And I came along and said, "Here's why." I flipped it upside down. And people go, "Oh, my gosh."

GLENN: Okay. So flip it upside down.

JOHN: Here's what happens. The real story of this is the classic case of when people think they're doing the right moral thing, stopping pedophilia or injustice against children. And they become invested in a myth.

GLENN: Yes.

JOHN: I'll use -- this audience will understand the parallel to global warming. Okay. This is man-made global warming because we have a consensus of science, allegedly, and because we are doing the right thing for humanity, you are a bad person if you disagree. If you even question it, you are a bad person.

Well, that's what happened in this case. I'm the bad person. I'm the bad person who actually said --

GLENN: Because you're viewed not as saying, "Wait a minute. Let's look for the truth." You're looked upon as a guy who wants to let a pedophile get away.

JOHN: Exactly. And so why is it that I'm the guy? Because I'm sure that's what a lot of people are asking.

STU: The first thing I did when I saw you tweeting about this was check to see if you graduated from Penn State. It was the first thing I did.

JEFFY: I know. I know.

JOHN: Right. I went to Georgetown University. Okay. That's number one.

Number two, I have zero financial motive at all. My website, FramingPaterno.com, takes no ads. I have hundreds of videos on YouTube. No ads. I have purposely lost money on this case.

My career, as Lauer predicted, has been crap because of this. And my wife, I don't know why she has stuck with me through it all. And I know I'm right. And it's not close. I can go through detail by detail as to why this happened the way that it did. But mostly it happened because the focus shifted at the beginning of the case -- think about this case as a mathematical equation. A complex mathematical equation. One number times another number times another number. Everyone thought the first number was something other than zero. Well, I did the math and said, "Wait a minute. The first number is zero." Which means the whole equation, zero times anything is still going to be zero.

And the thing about this, Glenn, which is really incredibly frustrating to me, I'm not the only guy who knows this. Almost everybody on the inside of this story knows it, including the three administrators, who were facing trial, two of whom pled guilty to a misdemeanor this week, the other Graham Spanier, who faces trial next week. And people on the Penn State board of trustees know this.

But everyone is afraid to talk about it. There's never been a case where fear, cowardice, and stupidity reigned more supreme than this one. Because everyone is afraid of the news media. And they are now, like -- trying to tell the news media the truth about this case is like trying to convince a 5-year-old that Santa Claus doesn't exist. They are completely and totally invested.

GLENN: So you're saying that the number -- the reason why that number is zero is because the victim -- victim number one is lying.

JOHN: Yes. And that's -- and it's important to point out. That's a great way to phrase it. Victim number one is a guy by the name of Aaron Fisher. He wrote a book. I presume from my first two years of this investigation he must be telling the truth. Because I was told child abuse victims never lie. And, you know, he -- he made himself known publicly. The only trial accuser that did so. He did an interview with Chris Cuomo on 20/20, which if you look at now on YouTube, you can tell he's not telling the truth because he doesn't act like a sex abuse victim at all and said very suspicious things. But I spent two years not even worrying about him. I now have 12 people on the record, on audio. I haven't released all of them at FramingPaterno.com. But most of them. Twelve people, incredibly close to him. I'm talking, aunts very close. Buddies from the time period of the allegation. Parents of the buddies of the time period of the allegation. Girlfriends. People who sponsored a rally on his behalf when his book came out. Twelve people against their own self-interests to have all said they're positive he's lying. Positive.

I've been -- his mom -- his mom, who if you believe his story -- his story is preposterous. And it's important to point out, he's the only accuser in this case for two and a half years. He's the only one. And during a grand jury investigation. His mom, the story goes, this is under her watch, he goes to Jerry Sandusky as a 12 to 14-year-old. One of the things -- misperceptions about this case is somehow these were six, seven, 8-year-old boys. No, these were all 12, 13, 14-year-old boys, which Jerry is a coach. These are when kids become athletes. That's why he took an interest in that age of kid. He's a very naive, I think stupid in a lot of ways, guy who is very religious and who never dreamed that anybody was going to think that this was somehow nefarious. He devoted his life to kids.

The mom, who under his -- her watch, he gets abused by her trial testimony, 100 times. One hundred times as a 13, 14-year-old. By the way, while he's dating girls and having sex with them, according to his buddies, she is now driving a -- a Mercedes, a Jaguar, a Cadillac Escalade and living in a giant house. Now, how in the world any mother could possibly have the lack of guilt to drive those cars when it's money that was gotten because you were such a bad mom, you kept feeding your son to a horrendous pedophile is beyond me. But that's one very tiny tip of this entire humongous iceberg.

The reason that this is so important is, if he's lying -- and I know that he is -- he's what they use to build the rest of the case. This became whisper down the lane. This becomes the Loch Ness Monster. Nobody thought there was a Loch Ness Monster until people started saying there was a Loch Ness Monster. Now, all of a sudden, everybody is trying to get the damn Loch Ness Monster. Well, there is no Loch Ness Monster in real life, and there's no Loch Ness Monster in this story. And there's no evidence where there should be O.J. Simpson-like evidence, Glenn. We're five and a half years into this thing, multiple investigations, an alleged cover-up that disintegrates, and yet there's nothing. There's nothing. Other than testimony of people who were paid millions of dollars. The settlement process was a sham. I have a fake accuser who went to the number one lawyer in this case, in a sting operation. We have incredibly damning audio.

GLENN: Okay. I want to go there. At the top of the hour, I want to take you to the sting operation. Because you've heard the audio of the sting operation. And we can't play them yet because I guess of legal maneuvering.

JOHN: Well, you don't want to go to jail for me, do you, Glenn?

GLENN: Yeah. No, I don't. But Stu has heard the audiotape. And if it is as described -- I have not heard it -- it's pretty remarkable.

STU: I think it's important too. Because you mentioned accuser one. But I think people think in their head, accuser one is the kid in the shower that Mike McQueary saw. He said he saw this happen. And he testified to actually visually seeing the assault go on.

JOHN: Right.

STU: And that's the one that sits on -- because there's ten total? Because that's the big one.

JOHN: Let's talk about that one. Absolutely.

No, Democrats, Calling VP Kamala Harris a ‘DEI Candidate’ Is NOT Racist | Ep 365

President Biden spewed several lies during his first public address to the nation since dropping out of the 2024 presidential race — like saying he’s "never forgotten" that protecting our union is about "we the people." Hmm, sure, Joe. He also said that his administration reflects the image of America, using his nomination of the first black woman to the U.S. Supreme Court as an example. But if Biden is so proud of filling a made-up White House diversity quota, then why are Democrats so upset at the Right for labeling VP Kamala Harris a "DEI candidate"? In this Glenn TV Friday Exclusive, Glenn recaps the latest chaotic events Americans have witnessed just over the last seven days alone. Does Joe Biden even know why he’s no longer running for the presidency? And did FBI Director Christopher Wray actually suggest that there’s a chance Donald Trump was never shot by a bullet? Plus, new bodycam footage released this week proves that security personnel at the July 13 Trump rally were aware of the danger facing the former president well before he took the stage. And finally, Glenn points out the insane hypocrisy from Democrats regarding a recent Kamala Harris rally in which supporters began chanting "lock him up!" Does no one in the mainstream media remember the hatred spewed toward Trump in 2016 for the very same chant …?!

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Did Kamala Harris SURRENDER Her VP Pick to the Obamas?

Barack and Michelle Obama have finally endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris to be the Democrat Party’s 2024 presidential nominee. But what took them so long? Glenn has a theory: their endorsement wasn’t free. Did the Obamas only endorse Harris after she agreed to let THEM choose her Vice President? Glenn explains why he believes that the Obamas wanted Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly, not Harris, and may force him onto the 2024 ticket.

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GLENN: Well, we welcome back Mr. Stu Burguiere. Who was gone this week. And conveniently showed up just in time for big Mike to endorse Kamala Harris. But if you heard the endorsement from Michelle Obama and Barack Obama, it doesn't ring true to me. Let's play that endorsement.

BARACK: Kamala Harris.

KAMALA: Hi.

MICHELLE: Hey, there.

KAMALA: Oh. Hi, you're both together. It's good to hear you both.

MICHELLE: I can't have this phone call, without saying to my girl Kamala, I am proud of you. This is going to be historic.

BERNIE: We called to say, Michelle and I couldn't be prouder to endorse you, to do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office.

KAMALA: Oh, my goodness. Michelle, Barack, this means so much to me. I'm looking forward to doing this with the two of you, Doug and I both. And getting out there, being on the road. But most of all, I just want to tell you, the -- the words that you have spoken and the friendship that you have given over all these years mean more than I can express. So thank you, both. It means so much.

And we're going to have some fun with this too, aren't we?

STU: I bet there's a good laugh they cut out of that one.

GLENN: Right.

STU: A good cackle.

GLENN: What did that cost her?

What did that cost her? That's a very transactional couple there.

STU: Yeah. Not nothing. I think you can be certain of that.

GLENN: Yeah. It wasn't like, yeah, you know what, Michelle. We've been thinking about it. And without any thought of calling anybody. Or making any deals. Or getting something for us, or anything that we want. You know, we just love you so much.

And we just want to give this to you, for free.

What did that cost her? My guess is, one of the pieces that it cost was Mark Kelly. Barack and Michelle want Mark Kelly. They do not want Kamala Harris. That's why he hadn't endorsed.

And he was hoping, that this would all go away, after Joe Biden endorsed Kamala.

Because I think Joe Biden did that as a slap across Michelle and Barack's face.

STU: It was also interesting.

GLENN: Because they did not want her.

STU: Not the original letter.

When I -- we were going live on YouTube. At Stu Does America. On YouTube. We've been going live on these big events. Even when I'm on vacation. When that happened, I read the letter. And the first thing I noticed was, it did not include an endorsement for Kamala Harris.

Which is odd, if you're going to do this big announcement, why wouldn't you include it in the thing that everybody was going to read?

He was, ten minutes later, 15 minutes later, he released a separate tweet that was just like, I endorsed Kamala. And it was odd the way it was rolled out. So it does sort of back maybe -- maybe they came out with this main letter for history purposes. And then, you know, he kind of just wanted to stick it to them. Because I don't think he likes the Obamas at all. I think he's very angry about this whole thing.

GLENN: Oh, no. I don't think he likes the Obamas at all. And I don't think they like him. And I think he knew the candidate they wanted was Mark Kelly. Not Kamala Harris. And I think that's why the endorsement came from a separate thing.Io, you drop out of the race, you make that very clear. Nothing else.

So he issued that letter.

And then he came out. And said, oh, and, by the way, I also endorsed Kamala.

STU: Maybe Hunter controlled the Twitter for a day.

GLENN: Maybe. And then Michelle and Barack were like, oh!

Now, listen, Michelle. I'll tell you, maybe, maybe. I mean, let's not get all bent out of shape. They're not going to jump all over that. And they jumped all over that.

And immediately, he need became rallying around Kamala Harris. And she's the one. He held back.

People wondered why. I think it's because of Mark Kelly. They wanted Mark Kelly to be the guy. Because they believe he's the winner. And I don't know. If they have a chance to turn on her and do a coup on her, they will. They will.

STU: I have so many questions.

GLENN: And Mark will be the guy.

STU: I have so many questions for you. Let me first back up what you're saying, about the Barack Obama part of this. I don't know if people really bothered to read his statement at the time.

But everyone -- this is after Biden comes out and says, I fully endorse Kamala Harris. And many of his competitors who were rumored to come after the nomination if he stepped down, had already endorsed Kamala Harris.

And this is the paragraph that Barack Obama writes. We will be navigating uncharted waters in the days ahead, but have extraordinary confidence that the leaders of our party, will be able to create a process from which an outstanding nominee emerges.

Like, that is the farthest thing away from an endorsement of Kamala Harris you can possibly get. They did not want her.

I think it's blatantly clear. The only pushback on that, some reporting was, well, they don't want to endorse. Because they want to make it appear like it was an actual process to get to Kamala Harris. They must want to have their happened -- come on. Does anybody buy that? I guess my first question on your theory here is, why do you think Mark Kelly was such a big favorite of the Obama family?

Why would they signal him?

GLENN: Great question. Great question.

You cannot have -- as Barack Obama would say. Two exotics on the ticket. Okay?

Think of America as a husband and wife. Okay? And each party has a husband and wife element to them. So if you just listen to the husband, you would have a Ferrari and a Lambo in the garage, right? But if he's married, his wife says, you're not going to have a Ferrari and Lambo. It's not reasonable. We need -- you know, we need a Pacifica and an Accord. And he's like, good God, if I have to drive a Pacifica, I'm going to hang myself. I can't do that.

And so they'll compromise. You know, in the man's dream world, he has to pick between the Ferrari and the Lambo because they also have to have the Pacifica. Okay?

Mark Kelly is the Pacifica. She's the Ferrari. She's the one that you never know if it's going to break down. Good Lord, we don't know what it will cost us. You know what I mean?

It's not dependable. We need a Pacifica. And he is a -- he will be -- they have to have a patriot. They cannot continue to front this party with people who are known to hate America. Okay?

Can't. He's a white guy. You can't have two exotics, as Barack Obama would say. So you have a white guy who is dependable, who loves America, is super, super smart. Because you can't have two idiots on the ticket either. Well, they did that last time.

Well, maybe they've learned their lesson.

You can't have two idiots on the ticket either. Mark Kelly is the Pacifica.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Now, I think the Obamas wanted the Pacifica as the candidate. That's why he phrased what he did, in that, you know, hey. Thank you, Joe.

And, by the way, we look forward to a process, that will eliminate Kamala Harris. And give us something good.

And I think that person was Mark Kelly.

STU: That's really interesting.

Because I -- because, you know, one of the reasons why he's a Pacifica, if you will, is he's seen as a moderate Democrat. And he is moderate, in temperament. Right?

That is what he brings to the table. Very -- he feels like a moderate. The same way like, the 2020 version of Joe Biden was pitched that way. Right?

You could have a guy who was very calm. And he's a moderate. And he's just a guy from a working class community. He's served -- in Kelly's case. Served in the military. He's an astronaut. Come on. In reality, his voting record, is just as liberal as any of these other people.

And seems to have the same vision as so many other people on the left.

GLENN: So hang on just a second.

Let me explain just what you just said. Last time, the Pacifica was at the top of the ticket.

And they knew, we have to have a Lambo and a Ferrari. Something that is not necessarily dependable. But is flashy. And everybody is like, yeah!

All the dads would be -- you know what I mean?

In this car analogy. Like, we have to have one of those!

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And that was Kamala. Now, she's at the top. So the Pacifica has to be the second one.

STU: I mean, it makes perfect sense.

You know, excuse me, came to the sort of Kelly conclusion as well. Based more on, like if you look at -- I do think the white guy -- the Pacifica thing is real. This is not real from my ideas or what I think. This is real from the reporting on Barack Obama's choice for vice president.

The reason why Joe Biden was picked was because he was old and white.

That is every piece of reporting from inside of that -- the -- that decision, that was Barack Obama, and Michelle, believed America was too racist, to have two exotics on the same ticket. These were their terms.

You needed to have one white guy, that the racists could sink their teeth into. And still be okay with this guy with the crazy name at the top of the ticket.

That's the way -- that's what they thought of America.

And it's quite clear, in so many of their comments. That's exactly what they thought in their comments. If you go back to the one, what was it know.

Pennsylvania voters. You have these people. They're angry. They're bitter. Clingers to their God and their Bible.

That's what they really believed about America.

Still believe about America. And so I think that white guy. The idea that they will pick Gretchen Whitmer. Or they will pick --

GLENN: She's another exotic.

STU: Yeah. Anything that has anything outside of white guy is I think outside of the picture.

99 percent chance of that.

GLENN: And I think it's important to say now, it also has to be somebody who at least appears to love the country. I'm not saying he doesn't.

But it cannot be somebody -- it can't be a always.

STU: Right. It's got to be somebody who has --

GLENN: It has to be somebody who is like, I don't mind Antifa.

STU: It has to be someone with moderate temperament. Which Kelly has. He seems like -- military guy. Astronaut. Hero. You all these things.

And I will say, one of the other things that I think is central to this. We just had a presidential assassination attempt. Where apparently someone flung glass with from a long distance, at the President Donald Trump when he was on stage.

GLENN: The New York Times just did a piece, an analysis and said, it's definitely a bullet.

STU: Yes, they did.

GLENN: Meanwhile, Christopher Wray testifies that, well, Trump. It's really up to him to prove that he's been shot. What!

STU: That's really weird. Even the Times is dismissing that nonsense.

GLENN: Now, wait. One more thing on that. I really do think it could have been a piece of glass. Because right at that moment, Kamala broke the glass ceiling. And so maybe --

STU: Wow, that should be the center part of her convention speech, I think.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

STU: When Donald Trump was struck by glass.

But on the Kelly part of this, the -- I mean, there is obviously a sympathy for Donald Trump.

His -- you know, his approval ratings have gone up, at some level. To the highest they have been, in some of these polls, in recorded history.

There is -- that moment was iconic. And everybody knows it.

With Mark Kelly, he's married to Gabby Giffords.

Gabby Giffords was a congresswoman who had an assassination attempt against her. Like this was their big pitch to come to the American people to bring gun violence into the picture.

Remember, they were blaming Sarah page for this. Targeting her district.

It was that shooting.

They can come back and say. Well, look, their main pitch for this. Republicans are the violent ones.

They've obviously lost ground on that one. That argument is dead after the president was almost killed on stage. So now you have a situation where this can kind of disarm the other side of that.

They can say, it's not just left and right. It's gun violence, and bring the gun violence case back in. Which I think this is absolutely the group of people, who would come to such a -- just cold, calculating decision.

To say, we'll use her, and her tragedy, to try to fend off this assassination attempt, that we now have to, quote, unquote, deal with. And not to mention, you go through, this is also a swing state.

It was one of the closest states in 2020. Even though, it's not all that close at the moment. I think -- and they have a good relationship behind the scenes.

Kamala and Kelly have had a good working relationship for a long time.

That's how I came to the conclusion. It's different how you came to it.

It's interesting. It arrived to the same place.

It's terrifying. That means we're both definitely wrong.

GLENN: He could only pray.

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America Has Taken a BEATING. But We Must "FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!"

It’s been a long 3 weeks. America has been beaten and shocked day after day. There was Biden’s disastrous debate, the failed assassination attempt against Donald Trump, the Secret Service’s failure to uncover why it happened, Biden’s flip-flop on the 2024 presidential race, the Democrat elites’ coronation of Kamala Harris, and most recently, the pro-Hamas riots in Washington, DC. If the events of the last 3 weeks had happened in the Soviet Union, we would all call it a coup! But yet, the media continues insisting that everything is fine. “Nothing’s changed for them. Your whole world has changed,” Glenn says. “Our country is in dire trouble.” But we can’t lose hope. Glenn reminds us of 2 heroic moments that should inspire us to, in the words of Donald Trump, “fight, fight, fight!” But not on the streets like the leftist mobs. We must fight by learning the truth and refusing to be silenced.

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GLENN: So it's been a long three weeks. Remember, this phase, this chapter of America, this birth pang, started just a few weeks ago when we had a debate and the president froze on stage. He couldn't remember where he really was at -- at any given time.

He wasn't making sense. He had no word retrieval. It was a frightening moment for many Americans.

Not because, oh, my gosh. He will lose to Donald Trump. But because that guy is the guy who is running the country right now.

That's not an easy job. And we have enemies, breathing down our neck. And they are looking at us. And licked their chops.

We, because of the policies of this president, we for the first time, since I was a kid, we were actually talking about the use of nuclear weapons!

That's insane.

So when that shock hit us, and we were like, this is the guy running the country. What was happening?

And the shock of, we've been lied to by everyone. They've told us, he was fine. Sharper than ever.

He's the sharpest tack in the drawer. And we realized, he's not in control.

Who is?

What did this mean?

Why didn't anybody say anything?

Why hasn't the cabinet invoked the 25th Amendment. And all of that leads us to, who can we trust?

Who has actually been running the country?

Why hasn't anyone said anything. And if you do say something, how come you're labeled a conspiracy theorist?

Remember, if you said four weeks ago that he was incompetent and unable to continue as president of the United States, you were a conspiracy theorist.

A year ago, when Democrats were saying, he can't run for another term. We want somebody else. The Democratic Party squashed those people. Wouldn't you have a primary. Because he's our guy.

So that's what began four weeks ago.

And then what was it? A week, week and a half after that, we have this moment with President Trump in Pennsylvania.

DONALD: -- I really see something that said -- take a look at what happened.
(yelling)
GLENN: So we don't know who is in charge, and then a week later, the guy running against him, is gunned down on live television.

And we don't know, really, what happened. In fact, we still don't know what happened. Because the head of the security. The Secret Service, we all figured out and found out, was hired by the First Lady, not the president. The First Lady was the one who pushed for her DEI hire at the Secret Service, and she was protecting Pepsi Co.

And now, the most important leaders of the world. And so, we went okay. Well, there's another shock.

But let's hear her out. And she testifies, and she says this.

VOICE: Was this a colossal failure?

KIM: It was a failure.

VOICE: Yes or no. Was it a colossal failure, yes or no?

KIM: I have admitted it was a terrible --

VOICE: This is a yes or no series of questions. Was it a colossal failure? Yes or no?

KIM: Yes.

VOICE: Have you provided a list to the Oversight Committee? Yes or no?

KIM: I'll have to get back to you on that.

VOICE: That is a no.

Have you provided all audio and video recordings in your possession to this committee as we asked on July 15th? Yes or no?

KIM: I would have to get back to you.

VOICE: That is a no. You're full of (bleep) today. You're just being completely dishonest.

GLENN: I know you're reeling. This is all in a three-week period. Now you're reeling from that. Wait a minute. Was this a setup? What are they covering up? If they're not covering something up, why wouldn't they just be open and honest and transparent? Why wouldn't they feel like most Americans. And now they realize, well, maybe they feel like most Americans. Those we saw on social media, right after the assassination attempt, like they were screaming like they were crazy people.

You missed!

How did you miss!

And a little bit of the American soul just kind of vaporizes and disappears. What is this?

So after that happens, just a few days later, the president is being pressured to resign.

And will let it be his decision. Well, I've already made my decision.

God will have to remove me himself. Saturday, he's saying the same thing.

Then suddenly, Sunday morning, I believe he was given a choice. A coup happened! And our president resigned. Now, I think he should have resigned. Not just from the candidacy, but from the presidency of the United States. Another shock to you. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

He's not okay to run a campaign, but he's okay to run the country!

What? And then his replacement is announced. Here is Chuck Schumer. Listen to this.

VOICE: So now that the process is played out. From the grassroots, bottom-up, we are here today, to throw our support, behind vice president Kamala Harris.

I'm clapping. You don't have to.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Thank you.

As the process played out? From the grassroots up? No grassroots movement was going for Kamala Harris. None. None.

Nobody at the bottom voted for her. She was in the primary. She had -- let me count all of the delegates that she won. Zero!

Zero. She was rejected by the voters. And then she was strangely just picked as, oh, she's the one we want.

And the party elites picked her. And then, they had a coup, and picked her again.

And are trying to convince you, that that was a grassroots effort?

What is happening?

Well, the same thing, they've just changed faces. The same kind of cover-up. The same exact kind of garbage that you got from the press before, is happening again.

Who is Kamala Harris.

Well, we know she is fine. And she has a spotless record, right?

We know she's fine. Just like they knew Joe Biden was absolutely fine.

And you're a conspiracy theorist, if you say anything differently.

Well, now, we watched it, with our own eyes.

And media has confirmed it for the last three and a half years. That she was in charge as the border czar.

We have the videotape of all of them saying it. But, no, no, no. Now, we have to change our history.

We have to change our news.

Here's the media. Cut 31, please.

VOICE: Quote, unquote, border czar. Vice President Harris was not a border czar.

VOICE: Meantime, Vice President and border czar, Kamala Harris facing some back lash.

VOICE: What he said about Harris and immigration was not true. She was never appointed border czar.

VOICE: And this will be her first visit to the US/Mexico border region since she was appointed as the border czar by President Biden.

VOICE: People are going to have to tell me about the misinformation. You already hear folks talking about the border czar. She wasn't the border czar.

VOICE: President Biden tagged Kamala Harris -- Vice President Harris to be the border czar.

VOICE: Now, she wasn't the border czar. That's what Republicans labeled her.

VOICE: They were very critical of Kamala Harris, especially in her role as border czar.

VOICE: Now what she's up against is folks lying about her border record, calling her a border czar.

VOICE: Kamala Harris, who was appointed as the border czar.

VOICE: The Biden team didn't declare her the border czar. They wanted her to work on kind of the root causes of immigration.

VOICE: There has been so much criticism against Kamala Harris, you know, she was the border czar.

VOICE: Calling her sort of the border czar, which wasn't necessarily the case.

VOICE: So the border, if they weren't planning to address it in a major way, do not make her your border czar. She met with some of the northern triangle countries, but nothing has effectively changed.

GLENN: Nothing has changed for them.
Your whole word has changed. Our country has changed.

Our country is in dire trouble. There is a clear and present danger off our shores.

It's called China. North Korea. It's called Hamas.

It's called Iran.

Russia. Do you think they're playing this little game of border czar, he's fine, you're a conspiracy theorist!

They know. Just like you know.

And you are looking at this going, this is madness. But that's not all that's happened.

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I just want you to recognize, why you might be on edge.

Why you might be so tired, right now. A lot has happened, your country, that you love, assuming that you do love it.

Your country has taken a beating over the last just three weeks. Presidential debate. Let me just remind you of that moment again.

VOICE: Until we get the total ban on the -- the total initiative, relative to what we're going to do with more Border Patrol, and more (inaudible).

VOICE: President Trump.

DONALD: I really don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don't think he knows what he said either.

Look, we had the safest border in the history of our country.

GLENN: Stop. Here's the amazing thing. That was a body blow to many Americans. I knew what this state was of our president.

You can see it. But for half the country, it had been denied.

And we were called liars and conspiracy theorists. I didn't celebrate, when I saw that.

I was terrified when I saw that. So yesterday, the president resigns. Cut eight. From the race.

Cut eight.

BIDEN: In the honor of my life, to serve as your president. But in defense of democracy, which is at stake, I think it's more important than any title.

I draw strength, and I find joy, in working for the American people.

But this sacred task, of perfecting our union is not about me.

It's about you! Your families. Your futures. It's about we, the people. And we can never forget that. And I never have.

GLENN: Hmm.

Another body blow last night. The -- well, I'm not going to get into it. If you don't understand what I meant by body blow of just that portion of the speech, I don't think you understand.

But he's talking about our republic is at stake. And while he's speaking, just a block and a half, from the Capitol building, at the union train station, they're taking down the flags and burning them in the streets.

Here's what happened with the Palestinians in Washington, DC, yesterday. Cut four. They are painting our statues, Hamas is coming. And they are taking down our flags. This is a federal property.

They're taking down the flags, and they're burning them. Imagine, on January 6th, if they would have done that. If they would have spray-painted on the wall, the right is coming.

Imagine the jail time for parading. Nothing happened yesterday.

Ronald Reagan's voice echoes almost every day this my head now.

Not from his presidency. But when he was standing up in 1961, or '64.

And he was talking about a time of choosing.

He had been a Democrat his whole life. And I think he was the first one to say, I didn't leave the Democratic Party, they left me. And he said, it's a time for choosing. And it is.

The president said it last night in his own speech.

You and I both know, and I don't know why our -- our friends, who are Democrats, and I'm not talking about the ones in Washington, or the real de-political people.

I'm talking about the average person. I don't know why they won't admit it. Or they can't see it.

But this is not America. The last three weeks, could be coming from the old Soviet Union.

Prejudice Nevada. Speaks. Loses his place. And looks confused.

Then his challenger is shot after everybody is saying, he's not in charge. He can't be the guy. His main competitor is shot and almost killed.

Would we except that at face value in the Soviet Union? No. Then a coup happens. And Brezhnev is saying, I'm not leaving yet, yet, yet. Then a note is issued with a weird signature that you've never seen before. A weird signature on it, that says, yes. Okay. I'm leaving.

Would we accept that at face value?

And what would we expect to happen? Brezhnev, a couple of days later, coming out and having a press conference, after some sort of deal seems to have been brokered. And he would endorse the new guy, stepping in.

And the press would say, what a hero Brezhnev is! What a proud son of the republic. Right?

That's Soviet stuff.

That's not American. The protesters on the streets, nothing happens to them.

You are seeing our history destroyed. The real time destroying of news and history.

Rewriting of history. You're seeing our traditions destroyed. But I want you to keep one thing in mind: This is where you are right now.

Most likely. And you're like, jeez. I just feel horrible. Great!

Let me say some things to you that the mainstream and the -- the political party, does not want you to hear.

GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

Pat Gray joins me today. If you just joined us, you missed an effort to try to explain probably why you feel beat up and you feel tired. We all do. Because we have watched our country take an absolute beating from the debate, right into the assassination, right into the, you know, people and social media screaming, how could you possibly miss? Which was just another assault on your senses.

Then the Secret Service director Cheatle saying, yeah. Well, it was a slopy roof. And we don't like to put people on hot, slopy roofs. And then another -- then a coup happens. Kamala is made the nominee. And they start changing history again.

And start saying, oh, no. She was never the border Florida. When they were the ones who told us she was the border czar. Then last night, the president, while he's doing that, the Palestinians are marching for Hamas, in Washington, DC. And burning an effigy of Bibi Netanyahu, and taking down the flags in front of the Union Station, a federal building. And burning the flags. That's what happened in the last three weeks.

And you're like, there's nobody doing anything.

There's nothing. Well, let me show you another side.

And let me show you what happened when the Palestinians took the flag town. They started burning it.

And there was a group of Americans that went in for that flag. And they were police officers. Let me show you the bravery, it took to go in. And get that flag.

Here you see, maybe what? Ten police officers.

They are surrounded by an angry Hamas crowd. And they are getting the flag, off of the ground.

And people aren't happy. And they lock arms with the flag, and back out of the area. I watched this, and I am moved by the bravery of those officers and I am grateful to those officers.

That they remember who we are. You have a right to burn the flag. You're a moron if you do it. But you have a right to burn the flag. But you do not have a right to deface our monuments, to write Hamas is coming on our monuments.

Take town our flags, and then fly the Palestinian flag. No. I'm sorry.

You don't have a right to do that. And in a sane America, you would have been arrested. But we're not a sane America. We're a sick America.

But I want to show you the parts that are standing. The left immediately went after Donald Trump, when he stood up, after being shot in the head.

Secret Service wanted just to rush him out of there. But he said, and you can hear it on the tape, no. No. No, no.

I need to say something to people. No.

Wait. Wait.

And then he did something, that I fear too many of us have already forgotten.

VOICE: Wait. Wait. Wait.

GLENN: He stands up with a clenched fist and says, fight, fight, fight!

VOICE: USA! USA!

GLENN: The press immediately tore him apart saying, look, he wants violence. No. He does not want violence, he is saying, fight for your country. Stand up for your country. Do what those police officers did yesterday. Fight for your flag!

Fight for our history. It's not violent, it is passionate.

And it is rooted in eternal truth.

There are far too many examples, of people being cowards. Far too many examples of people being stupid.

I come to you today, to ask you to recognize the light, the shadows are growing so very dark. But that is only possible when the light begins to get brighter.

Be that light. Be that beacon of hope, in somebody's life.

My executive producer Ricky, this morning. Said, it's been a rough three weeks. And she had tears in her eyes, and she said, I'm just watching my country be destroyed.

And all of us on the -- all of us on the meeting, we all fell silent, because we all felt exactly the same way.

But it's because of her bravery, to say how she felt, that I am giving you and her, this monologue.

It's always darkest before the dawn. They have trashed our country for 20-plus years. They have brought us to the point to where we're at a breaking point.

A place where I said, we would be.

I hoped that we would not. But the country cannot go on, much longer like this.

But I want you to take courage, from the things, the two things that I just showed you, that also happened this week.

And they were big things. They're just not getting play in the media, because that's not their narrative or their agenda.

Your narrative. Your agenda. My narrative, my agenda, is to save the republic!

Now, remember, it was just four weeks ago, that we were having the discussion, whether we were a republic, or a democracy.

And the same people that are lying to you today, about Kamala Harris and the border czar and are in this sudden whipped up frenzy to change history.

All of them are doing it. It's because they're exactly the same people. And they are answering to exactly the same people.

It's just Kamala that they're helping and covering for now.

And not covering for President Biden.

Because President Biden, he has been used up. He's finished.

Move on! They are also the same people, that were telling you, four weeks ago, that we are a democracy. And when we spoke out and said, no. It's a very important distinguish -- distinguishing characteristic.

We are a republic.

We have a democratic vote. But after that vote is taken. Then we're a republic!

They told us we are conspiracy theorists.

That are whipped up, by the right and -- and Donald Trump, because it's our plot. To make people believe we're a republic. Well, let me quote President Biden last night!

Cut 15.

BIDEN: When Ben Franklin was asked, and emerged from the -- the convention going on, whether the Founders had given America a monarchy or a republic, Franklin's response was, a republic, if you can keep it.

A republic. If you can keep it. Whether we keep our republic is now in your hands.

GLENN: Yes. It is. But what he means is, go out and vote. What Franklin meant was educate yourself. Be a responsible citizen. Care about these things. Talk amongst yourself about these things. Discover the truth.

Because the truth will be -- there will always be people who try to hide the truth from you. And it is your responsibility, not the media's responsibility, not my responsibility, but your responsibility.

To educate yourself. And when you see an injustice, fight!

Fight! Fight.

You fight for what is true. And then you go to the ballot box.

You fight for the truth, because it's worth fighting for. It's worth living for. It's the only thing that will change our children's life for the better. Is the truth!

So damn right, fight!

And use that one day that we have a democratic democracy tool, at our disposal. And vote.

You know, I was going to say, may God save the republic. But I was reminded that it was a millimeter, that the president walked offstage two weeks ago. Bleeding from the side of his head, his ear was clipped off.

You and I both know that was a miracle. How dare us feel beaten and discouraged. When the arm of God was made bare. He's doing his part, may you do your part, meet my part.

May we save the republic.

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The REAL Threat to America: Pro-Hamas DC Riot or Jan 6?

Pro-Palestine protesters took over parts of Washington, DC, to show their hatred of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Blaze Media national correspondent Julio Rosas was on the ground to document it. Julio tells Glenn how the protesters spray painted monuments with messages like “Hamas is coming,” tore down American flags at Union Station and replaced them with Palestinian flags, and burned the American flags. He also recounts the heroic actions of the US Park Police, which he says was sorely understaffed. Plus, he reveals the biggest differences between these protests and the January 6th Capitol Riot, which he also documented.

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GLENN: Julio Rosas is with us.

He's a Blaze media national correspondent. He was actually standing with the protesters yesterday. Not protesting. But I'll bet he was parading. He should be arrested.

But he was with the protesters, the Hamas protesters, who were absolutely vile. Outside of Union Station, where they took down the American flags, replaced them with Palestinian flags. And then defaced all of our monuments there at Union Station. Saying Hamas is coming.

Which I really like. You know, I like that warning. I don't think I needed it. But I like that warning. Julio is with us now, to tell us what it was like in the crowd. Hi, Julio.

JULIO: Hi, Glenn. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: You bet. So what did you see that surprised you? And what did it feel like?

JULIO: Well, nothing surprised me. I mean, the whole reason why I -- the whole reason why, you know, we were willing to -- Blaze was willing to send me is because I told them.

I said, this is going to get out of hand. Because this is not Biden. This is not Harris. This is Benjamin Netanyahu that is speaking to Congress. I mean, this is their guy, that they hate the most. He's in town.

So this will be their only shot to make their -- their attack, in terms of destruction and rioting.

And so I'm not surprised at all, that they are no longer hiding their Hamas support. And like you said, we've all known this for a while.

You, but now they're really letting the mask slip. Just because the war has continued. In Gaza. And there has been a cease-fire. There has been no -- Israel hasn't ceased with this. They are getting madder and madder as the months go on. It was crazy. Them tearing down the American flag. Inside Union Station. Again, it's not surprising.

They've done that. Similar groups have done that all across the country. To the credit of the US park police. They did move in to stop -- and I filmed that for TheBlaze media.

GLENN: Yeah. I have to tell you, I watched it. Hang on just a second.

Can we play that video? If you happen to be watching TheBlaze right now. We'll play that video. And I'll describe what's happening. You're not seeing this anymore. You're seeing the depressing part of defacing and an angry crowd, and the Palestinian flags going up.

But you don't see what the US park police did, and it was -- they were greatly outnumbered.

And they go right into the crowd. In what was there, probably ten of them, Julio?

JULIO: Just about. Unfortunately, the park police, like other law enforcement agencies, they are severely understaffed. And that's something that their union has been vocal about for a very long time.

And so that's why, you know, they were able to make the arrests. They were able to save the flag, but they weren't able to prevent further destruction to the monuments or to the other flags.
And that's just because they didn't have the manpower to do that.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, we're $35 trillion in debt.

The cupboards are bare. You know, we're spending $4 trillion. But we don't have the money for extra law enforcement.

The -- the other picture you took. And I don't know how you got in there, to take this. But the picture you took of them folding the flag, inside the office. They took the flag back. And folded it up. And preserved it. That's remarkable.

JULIO: Yeah. And that is their -- they take that very seriously. I mean, the park police. They protect the national mall. They protect the monuments.

In New York and San Francisco as well.

And they take their job seriously. Because they protect these highly trafficked tourist areas. Things that are -- you know, when people say the United States. They automatically think of the national mall. You know, all these monuments and stuff.

So they try their best, in these United Nations situations to mitigate and prevent the destruction from happening. But like I said, unfortunately, they don't have the manpower to completely secure these areas, when there's that many rioters in the area. And this is the unfortunate consequences of the George Floyd -- post-George Floyd world.

They're not really allowed to, because the -- the police command and the general, you know, higher level in terms of politicians. Their approach is now, well, the police had to de-escalate. And what that is fancy for. The police have to leave the area. And not engage. And let people do what they want.

That's basically what they're told to do. But obviously, when they're able to take action, they -- they will try their best to do that.

GLENN: So can you compare this -- I mean, you weren't at January 6th. But can you compare the tone of the crowd, and the things that were happening at all.

Did it at all resemble January 6th?

JULIO: Actually, I did -- January 6th. I was there that day, and I made it.

GLENN: Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't know that.

JULIO: No, no, no. It's all good. It was quite the day. But, no, so I can kind of compare the two.

So, obviously, the big difference between January 6th and July 24th -- J24, is that the authorities were actually prepared this time.

They brought in police from New York. They brought in police from Maryland. They brought in extra law enforcement. They actually secured the perimeter of the Capitol of the complex.

Which didn't happen January 6th. And I have always maintained that, yes. It was a riot. But it was the most preventable riot of that season.

You know, political violence is something that we have been experiencing for months. Prior to January 6th.

And so I don't know why -- so I -- it is my belief, that they allowed it to happen. By not adequately preparing for it.

So that's why, yesterday, you know, J20 tower. They didn't get close to the Capitol building. They tried. And that's why, within the first five minutes of the march.

They tried to push their way through a police line. That's why the police had to pepper spray, to get them to stop.

But, again, the rhetoric is openly praising terrorist groups. And making it known by defacing monuments.

I mean, that is -- that is something that has been happening for a long time.

I've actually been telling Congress, that they need to take this seriously.

And as typical of DC. They don't really start to get going, until it happens in their backyard. There are things happening now.

Okay. We should probably focus on the street protesters. There's a lot of focus on the college campuses. I'm not saying that is not important. But the street protests have been happening since October 8th of last year. And they have caused massive amounts of damage, a lot of violence.

And that's something that needs to be looked at, at the federal level.

So this was obviously not nearly as bad in terms of the Capitol building being breached. Because that didn't happen.

But again, that know didn't happen pause they actually prepared for it.

It's sad. If there will be a major protest. We have to wall up the White House.

We have to wall up the Capitol building. Or wall up the Supreme Court.

And nine times out of ten. It's because of the far left.

GLENN: Are you going to share the pictures of the cleanup, that you took this morning? have you shared them already? Or have I been misinformed? I understood that you were there taking pictures this morning of the cleanup or maybe not.

JULIO: No, I -- my flight was early this morning. So unfortunately, I wasn't able to do that. Sorry about that.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

I hear that they were out scrubbing the monuments and cleaning up, you know, all the aftermath. Did anybody go to jail?

JULIO: So I was told by park police, that at least ten people were -- were arrested. And that was sort of the instruction of government proper. For defacing. And resisting arrest. Fighting.

But true to the area. A lot of them were quickly released.

That the -- the Palestinian groups were posting videos, showing their, quote, unquote, comrades, being released within -- within hours.

So that's another reason why the police are reluctant to go out of their way to put themselves into harm's way. They do know, even if they do arrest people, for not minor offenses, in these liberal jurisdictions. The rest of these -- it's just going to let that go.

GLENN: Julio, thank you so much.

Julio Rosas. You can find his personal Substack MostlyPeaceful.live. This was mostly peaceful, yesterday, I'm sure it was.

And you could also find his reports at -- on Blaze media and TheBlaze.com. Thanks, Julio, I appreciate it.

JULIO: Yeah. Thank you for having me.

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