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World's Best Trump Impersonator Talks With Glenn. It's YUGE.

Glenn welcomed a very special visitor in studio today. John Di Domenico, a professional comedian and voice artist, does a spot-on, killer impersonation of Donald Trump. He's been doing it for years and realized it was going to be YUGE when Trump won the nomination during the primary and later the presidency. Domenico gave the inside scoop on how he noticed what the media missed --- the enthusiasm Americans had for Trump.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

GLENN: Hello, America. And welcome to the Glenn Beck Program. You're going to appreciate this much more, if you're watching us. But give us 30 seconds if you're on radio, and you will appreciate it just as much. We have a guest in the former Oval. Go ahead. Pan over to him. We begin there, right now.

(music)

JOHN: Good morning, everybody.

GLENN: Honestly, I don't even know how to introduce. I don't even know how to introduce. Other than this is the guy you see on Conan all the time. And I think he's the real -- I think he's the real deal. I think this is -- how are you?

JOHN: I'm fantastic. So excited to be here. Tremendous. You guys are amazing. I don't any of you, but I think you're great. And Glenn has been so supportive of me for so long. He's said such wonderful things about me. And on his latest book -- I'm on the cover, and that's why it's a million seller. I'm on the cover. Did you notice that? None of his other books have done well. Why would you write a book on broke? Bad move. Bad move.

I have to tell you, stupid, stupid title. But I like you, though, you're good. I've written a lot of books too. A lot of books. Best-selling books.

GLENN: Right. But I haven't really been helpful for you.

JOHN: Really? You haven't?

GLENN: No.

JOHN: In that case, you're a lightweight loser. You're doing a terrible job. I've always said you're terrible. I've always said that from the beginning. Now that I know this about you.

GLENN: Right. Right.

JOHN: Really amazing. You were on CNN, you blew that gig. Then you were on Fox, you blew that gig. Now we're in this place. Folks, we're in a double wide trailer, I don't think you know -- realize that. He's not doing well, believe me.

GLENN: John Di Domenico is the voice you're hearing right now, doing Donald Trump. And the hair -- how much -- I mean, how did you do -- I mean, how much did that hair cost?

JOHN: That's four grand.

GLENN: Seriously? Four grand? That hair?

JOHN: Yeah. I have three of these.

PAT: Four thousand dollars? Wow.

GLENN: And they're not 4,000 each.

JOHN: Yeah, they're 4,000 each.

GLENN: Shut the hell up.

JOHN: Yeah. They take 90 hours to make. They're -- every single hair is hand-pulled.

GLENN: I don't know if he's -- I don't know if you're doing --

JOHN: Well, I'm kind of in between.

I can tell you about the hair. It's Trump hair. Tremendous hair. Best hair --

GLENN: Right. Okay. So drop the -- drop the effect here for a second. Talk to me about the hair.

JOHN: Okay. The hair is -- the hair is -- the very first wig I ever had was made by Bob Kelly. He used to do all the wigs for all the Broadway shows and Saturday Night Live. And this goes back at least 12 years ago.

And those wigs are human hair wigs that are hand-pulled. They measure my head, and then they build a frame. And then they just pull the hairs through. And it's called ventilating. That's why the hair -- your hair goes in different directions. Grows in different directions. So they ventilate the wig so it's closest to the actual style. I get three or four wears out of this. Then it has to be washed.

GLENN: How many wears out of this?

JOHN: Three or four.

PAT: That's it?

JOHN: No, no, no. Then they go to my wig person. They wash and style it. Because once there's too much product in it, it just -- it is human hair. So it's got to be restyled and redone.

JEFFY: I need a wig person.

JOHN: Yeah.

GLENN: You need three or four of these wigs?

JOHN: Well, because I'm always traveling. So I'll go home for a couple of hours. Switch out wigs. My wig person will come by, pick them up and then wash one or two.

GLENN: This has been tremendous for you as a human being, hasn't it? I mean, you're hoping for eight years.

JOHN: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: Country could be on fire. And you're, still like, whatever.

JOHN: Yeah, I don't care. Rome is burning.

(laughter)

GLENN: So is it amazing to you that nobody could do -- nobody had the balls to put an impression of Barack Obama on television. They all said, oh, he wasn't funny.

JOHN: I don't think he had -- comedically, there's just not -- there's something there -- there's such a well with Trump. And it goes back so far. You look at his lexicon. You look at statements that he's made. You look at where he's been. How he's done it. There's just this reservoir of material. And, you know, Barack Obama was so guarded, that the most you could do was, here's a deal. You know, there just wasn't a lot to pull out. Comedically, he's so guarded. But you have somebody like Bill Clinton, he was much easier to like -- there was just more comedy to mine from somebody --

GLENN: Did you think -- because you've been doing Donald Trump for how many years?

JOHN: Since 2004.

GLENN: And you really studied him.

JOHN: Oh, yeah.

GLENN: You're looking at me like he does, and sitting in this room, which is the Oval.

JOHN: Which is the Oval Office. Which I now own. I bought the White House. Great view, by the way.

GLENN: Right.

JOHN: No one makes deals like me, I have to tell you.

GLENN: Right. So --

(laughter)

You really have to -- go to GlennBeck.com and watch this. You have to watch it. It's so funny.

PAT: That's great.

GLENN: The -- when you studied in the beginning of 2004, just because he was a great character?

JOHN: No, what happened was -- I worked in the New York market, and I always got calls for tougher voices, for voiceovers. I do about 30 characters, full makeup. And I gotten the call, and somebody said, "Hey, are you doing Donald Trump yet?"

And this was the first season. The Apprentice had just ended. And I said, no, not really. Said, we have an audition on Monday for you, if you can learn the voice.

So I was like, jeez.

And I said, give me an hour. And I did some real quick research. And the only person at the time who was doing it at all was Phil Hartman on SNL, and he had done it on Church Lady a number of times.

So I didn't really have a lot of resource material to really draw from. So I ran out and bought that first season of The Apprentice that just happened to come out.

And I sat there, locked myself in my house, and I broke his voice down by elements, which is throat placement, nasal placement, vocal production, cadence, and that's how I kind of usually break voices down. And then I worked on figuring out -- he doesn't sound like anyone from New York. So I had to figure out --

JEFFY: Right.

JOHN: So I wanted to find a voice similar to his. And the only person that I knew other than him from Queens was another guy who spoke in a very, very staccato way, like Christopher Walken.

GLENN: Walken. Yeah.

JOHN: And Walken, you wouldn't necessarily think is a New Yorker if you hear him speak.

JEFFY: No, you wouldn't.

JOHN: And Trump when he speaks, you don't necessarily think of him as a New Yorker, unless he uses certain words.

(laughter)

GLENN: Does it help -- did you pick up the mannerisms? Does that help you --

JOHN: It helps me. It helps me. Yeah. Especially when I'm doing voiceovers and things like that. Even when I'm doing the Conan calls, I'm buying furniture in my house. Because I have a small studio in my house, and I'm whacking the mic and everything else.

But it's just such a big part of who he is because it really -- I have to tell you, tremendous. Tremendous. You know. Even when he was on the -- when he was at the CIA. You know, watching one of the news -- one I don't like. I don't like it.

And they say, Donald Trump doesn't draw. He's so physical. And it's a very dynamic impersonation. He's very dynamic, in that two years ago, he wasn't this physical. And he constricts his voice and he loosens his voice. And he's going up and going down. And things he had never done early on. Because he used to be, Glenn, your team did a terrible job, you're fired. That was it.

Guys, you're selling lemonade. That was the most you saw of him.

GLENN: Right.

JOHN: And it seemed the more he was on the campaign trail, especially with these stump speeches, he just became looser and looser.

GLENN: At what point did you think to yourself, I've got a freaking gold mine?

JOHN: I just knew -- people were calling me as soon as he announced. Friends. Because I had been doing him so long. And said, dude, you're set. You're set, man. It's going to be incredible.

And I said, hold on. Let's see if he doesn't implode first. Because four years before, he had run. He was toying with running. And I remember at the very end of -- literally the day before he dropped out, he was speaking in front of the -- I live in Las Vegas. He was speaking at a Las Vegas Republican women's group, and he dropped the F bomb three times.

And I remember thinking, he's dropping out. He dropped out the next day. Because he kind of lays the groundwork before he does something. And he dropped the three F bombs, and everyone was shocked. And he was out the next day. When he announced this last time in June of 2015, I thought, okay. Well, let's -- let's see what happens, if the work starts coming in.

And we were about a month in, and he made the John McCain comments. And I thought, well, that was a good run. That was -- yeah. I guess I'll go back to Austin Powers. It was really -- and then his number went up. And his numbers kept going up. And I thought, "You know what, if he can make it to the first debate, I'm set for the fall. I'm set for the fall." And then he did that first debate, and he crushed it. And the phone started ringing off the hook.

And by that time, I was on Red Eye on Fox, and I had already been on Conan. And other calls were happening. And the corporate work was coming in. And voiceovers were -- it already started. And then by August of this past year, 2016, I was being interviewed by the -- not the BBC, by Channel 4. They had flown me to DC to do some interviews. And most of the interviews I did last year -- I did a ton of them. They always said, who are you voting for? Which I always thought was a dumb question. Who cares who I'm voting for?

They said, "Who do you think will win?" And I said, "Trump will win in a landslide." I had been on the road for well over a year now. I've done hundreds of events. It doesn't matter what corporate group I do or where I do it. It's always overwhelmingly for Trump. And --

GLENN: What is it that the media missed?

JOHN: They missed the fact --

GLENN: Say it like Trump.

JOHN: They missed the fact that people are upset. They want a leader. They want someone with bravado. They want someone who has real accomplishments and someone who is going to say whatever he wants to say. And that was the thing that he missed, that he --

GLENN: Do you believe he is that caricature? Because people always say, when they meet with him, he's a totally different guy? So which is he? What is he?

JOHN: Well, you know, that's a great question. I say to people, you'll see he's different in different situations. Even when he's doing interviews. If he's being interviewed by Sean Hannity, he's one way. If it's Bill O'Reilly, it's another way. If it's Scott Pelley, it's another way. He assumes different styles each time.

GLENN: Right. But they're still all him.

JOHN: They're still all him, yeah. But I think when he's -- when he's out and about, you know -- if you've seen -- he's a certain way. This is tremendous. Look at this place. This is amazing. This is an amazing event. I have to tell you, it's incredible. Best of the best.

So I think what was missed was the fact that he's -- he -- he -- the enthusiasm part was so important. They didn't get the fact that people were really enthusiastic about him. And they were incredibly unenthusiastic about Hillary. And I remember this clearly. I was in New York, which was pretty much Hillary country. I was doing an event, about 500 people. And I do this bit in the act, where I come out, and basically I say, I've been told there's over 5,000 people here today. It's usually a much smaller crowd. The press -- the press -- terrible people, the press. They're going to say there's 400 and we're in a banquet hall. Terrible.

And I say, just -- listen, listen, listen, we're all friends here. Right? We're all friends, right? I just want to do a quick poll, quick poll. Who here wants to ruin the country and vote for crooked Hillary? And the Clinton -- these were the people voting for her. It was so unenthusiastic. And this was a less than a quarter of the group. He said, all right, who is going to vote for me and make the country great again? Overwhelmingly, it was him.

GLENN: These were Clinton people. In Clinton country.

JOHN: You would think in New York, yeah. And I remember, early on, I was at a hotel in San Diego of all places -- I'm constantly on the road. Constantly in hotels, airports. I mean, in character, I'm in hotels.

And I would walk down to my room one time, and the cleaning lady said, Mr. Trump. Mr. Trump, can I get a photo of you, Mr. Trump?

And I said, sure, of course. What's your name?

My name is Esmeralda, Mr. Trump.

And I said, are you going to vote for me?

Goes, yes, I'm going to vote for you, Mr. Trump. I love you.

You love me?

Yes, I love you, Mr. Trump. I want you to build the wall.

That happened like five times.

JEFFY: Yeah, I bet.

GLENN: Wow.

JOHN: I had a Muslim driver in New York. I was out of character. They picked me up at the airport. And the guy said --

GLENN: But you're dressed like this?

JOHN: No, I was in street clothes. I was in street clothes. And he said, what do you do? And I said, oh, I'm a comedian.

He said, what kind of comedy?

And I said, oh, I'm a personator.

He's like, who do you do?

And I said, oh, Dr. Phil. Dr. Evil. Donald Trump.

Donald! You do Mr. Trump! You do Mr. Trump!

And I said, yeah. I do Donald Trump. And I mentioned the different stuff.

He goes, I love Donald Trump. I love Donald Trump.

I said, really? I said, why? He goes, he's going to draw a line between me and the terrorists. I love America. I love America. And he's going to draw a line.

PAT: That's great. Wow.

JOHN: I was thinking, wow, I never -- and I took all these things. And I was like, all these things are happening. I'm thinking, this guy is going to win. It doesn't seem -- every corner.

GLENN: What is the one thing -- you know what, I have to take a quick break. We'll come right back.

JOHN: Sure.

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The FBI knocked on my door to talk about Antifa...

The FBI showed up to Glenn's house to discuss his TV show exposing Antifa's network. Glenn shares what he learned from his "surreal" meeting and warns any member or funder of Antifa: you should be a little concerned because the FBI is SERIOUS about investigating you.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Let me tell you something else that's changed.

Let me start with this. Cut five here.

Here are the new talking points for the media on Antifa.

Listen to this.

VOICE: This is an entirely imaginary organization. There's not an Antifa.

VOICE: Look, I don't even know what Antifa is.
VOICE: There is no growth.

VOICE: It's not even like far right groups, like the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, compared to right-wing extremists, Antifa-linked violence is rare and limited.

VOICE: It is an organization.
It is -- it is in many ways mythology.

VOICE: It's not like the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers. You know, they're defined terrorist organizations, the leadership that led -- that, you know, leads violence.

VOICE: It's not a highly organized movement. It's a moniker. It's not even a group like the Proud Boys are.

Things like Antifa are things that are thought up.

VOICE: These guys are going after Antifa, which is nothing. There's no organization called Antifa.

VOICE: Nobody is a member of Antifa because it doesn't exist! They are just claiming existence to something that doesn't exist.

VOICE: There is no Antifa organization, so maybe that's good for social media.

But it really has -- is nonexistent.

VOICE: They exist on the internet and chat rooms.

And in 4chan.

GLENN: Okay.

VOICE: And places like that. Where they run discussion boards. Trade tactics.

Documents. Things like that.

But none of them are called Antifa.

STU: What!

GLENN: I don't even know what they're talking about.

You want to talk about living in a different world.

But that's what's going around.

Now, let me just tell you this: Last week, I did a TV show that apparently got the FBI's attention.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: The topic was -- was initial investigation. A jumping off point, shattering the myth that Antifa just -- oh, it's -- it's just leaderless. And decentralized. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

We thought, no. It's really not. So we dove in. Head first.

And we analyzed the Antifa network. And we went from the street thugs, to the support groups, eventually, to the funding.

Okay?

To say the FBI was interested in this might be an understatement.

Let's just say, the FBI is turning over every single stone.

It is so clear to me, that they are exploring all angles of this. And they are talking to anyone and everyone that can give them think kind of information.

How do I know?

Saturday, I get a phone call.

The director would like to send over some agents to speak to you, Glenn.

And I'm like, the director?

The FBI agents?

Yes, you said, some things that they need to talk to you about.

Well, good things or bad things? "They'll be over."

Three agents sat in my living room on Saturday afternoon for almost two hours. And I immediately called Jason. I'm like, Jason, you're the researcher. It's your fault. I'm going to throw you under the bus. You better get your butt over here.

So Jason was there. My wife and I sat there, and it was surreal at one point. I talked to them for about 15 minutes just going over the Tides Foundation. And saying, if you understand Tides, you'll understand how difficult your job is going to be. And this is information that I first gave on Fox years ago.

Let me just say this: Finally, we have an administration and an FBI director, that is willing to go in deep. Not surface. But deep!

I could only imagine what we could have avoided, if anyone in an administration, would have done this, in 2011.

But if I were in that, imaginary group, of Antifa, which, by the way, has imaginary leaders. Leaving the country to go maybe to imaginary countries outside of the US right now. I would be very concerned. If I were a part of anything that was sending money their way or assistance their way.

I don't know!

I might be a little concerned, because the FBI is deadass serious.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, Donald Trump, Kash Patel, and all of the agents at the FBI.

GLENN: We're covering from Allie Beth Stucky's big event, six or 7,000 women showed up this weekend for a weekend conference. It was -- it was unbelievable.

STU: Really, I saw the crowds. It was incredible.

GLENN: Yeah. She did a great, great job. I'm so proud of her. She's just killing it. But we will try to get to some of those clips because they're really, really good. We'll get to those later on in the program. You know, Stu and I were talking about how Antifa doesn't exist. And, you know, that's like saying -- it's like saying Al-Qaeda doesn't exist. Well, you're right.

There is no way, you know, 501 Broadway, you know, where you go to al-Qaeda's office. That doesn't happen, but it does exist, and it's an ideology.

And while they may not -- they may not take their direction from the same person at the office, I don't know. There's no HR. So they don't exist. They exist!

They exist. And they're loosely affiliated. And sometimes, they are getting money. You know.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And for the press and everybody else to say -- when you're watching them all over the country, and they're doing exactly the same thing, same tactics. Every -- everywhere.

You know, to say, they don't exist is just infantile.

STU: Yeah. It's like a -- it's -- I don't know what the word -- there should be a word for this, if there isn't.

But there's a real point used in an intentionally dumb way to mislead.

Is that malinformation? Is that what that is?

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

STU: It really is. There's a real point to it. They're disengaged from a centralized thing. This makes them more dangerous. This is how you had to deal with terrorist cells back in the day. However, they're using it in a way that makes it seem like it's not a threat, which is not accurate. And they know it's not accurate. And they're trying to mislead people with a piece of --

GLENN: Why would you -- why would you support -- why would you try to brush Antifa under the rug? I mean, it's just perplexing.

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Historic peace deal in the Middle East: A new era of hope

For the first time in modern history, and perhaps the past few thousand years, we may have actual peace in the Middle East. Glenn Beck discusses the signing of President Trump’s historic peace deal, which will hopefully bring an end to the Israel/Hamas conflict in Gaza, and the freeing of the remaining 20 hostages.

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me start here: For the first time in living memory, the guns have gone quiet in Gaza. Hostages, that have been held now for over two years have just walked free. And for the very first time, not in decades, but perhaps a millennia or two: The descendents of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have -- have signed something that might resemble more than just a ceasefire. You have to understand, before we start, how significant and how impossible it is to reach this point! This is not like anything we've ever seen before.

The conflict did not begin in 1948. It didn't begin with the British mandates and the creation of the state of Israel. The story really begins with the -- the ancient people of Israel and the sands of Canaan, where the people of Israel and the people called the Philistines, clashed over the same spot of earth called Gaza.

The Bible records Gaza as one of the five cities of the Philistines. And is this the place, Gaza is the place where the Philistines gathered their strength.

It was in Gaza that Samson, the judge of Israel was betrayed, captured, blinded, and paraded through the streets, as the Philistines mocked him. Much like you saw on October 7th. It was in Gaza that he brought the temple down on them. You know, one man against the empire. History has a very long memory in that land. We call it the Gaza Strip today. But it has seen conquers come and go. The Egyptians. The Babylonians. The Greeks, the on the mans, and the British.

And yet, somehow or another, the one rivalry, that is from 2000, 3,000 years ago, remains. The one between the children of Israel, and those who dwell along the sea.

That's an important thing. Palestinians of the ancient world, in Biblical context, are -- are different than the Palestinians. They were the group. They were not Semitic. They weren't Jewish. And they concentrated on the coast of Israel, Gaza.

The modern Palestinian identity came, you know, a millennia later, and that was shaped by the Arab, Islamic, and -- and historic developments in that area. It's not directly connected to the Philistines. However, Philistine and Palestinian both mean people that dwell on the coast. The word Hamas is an acronym, which means, you know, in their language. The Islamic resistance movement. But in Hebrew, Hamas means something altogether different. It means violence.

And this is in Hebrew, in Genesis 6:11. The earth was filled with Hamas. Violence, corruption, wickedness. It was because of Hamas, that the rains came, and Noah had to build the ark because of Hamas. So when you hear the word "Hamas," understand what it means to the Israeli ear, compared, you know, to the Palestinian ear.

It's not just an enemy. It's a Biblical echo, a spiritual warning from deep, deep time. So for 75 years, they have been trying to make peace between these ancient adversaries. Everybody has tried to do it. In my lifetime, the Camp David awards, or Accords, were in 1978. The Oslo Accords, in 1993. Endless road maps, summits, UN resolutions, and nothing! Every single one of them hailed as historic. And each one declared a new chapter. And every one of them failed, and it's not because the diplomats lack skill. But because too many on one side, the entire Arab world didn't believe Israel had a right to exist, and everyone was looking for a political solution. Then comes Donald Trump!

Donald Trump didn't approach this, you know, as a professor of Middle East studies.

He didn't approach this with the hundred years of expertise from the State Department.

In fact, he looked at the State Department expertise, and went, you guys aren't really experts of anything. You haven't solved anything.

And you keep trying the same thing. What are you doing?

He took a business approach. He knew all of the players, because of business. He knew all of the big players.

And so he got in with all of the players, and found out, what do you really want? And what they really want is stability. If you look at what's being built in the Middle East, they are these -- these incredible modern cities. Incredible modern cities.

They want prosperity. The Middle East does. Hamas doesn't!

He saw a region, Donald Trump did. He saw a region that was addicted to USAID.

Endless negotiation.

And so he just tore up the whole rule book. And he recognized Jerusalem, first thing as the capital of Israel.

A move that every single president before has been told by the State Department, you can't do that. It will cause war. And, you know what, it didn't.

He moved the embassy.

He then walked away from the Iran Deal. And he told the world that America is no longer going to apologize for standing with the only democracy in the Middle East. And that's where all of the anti-Semitic stuff comes. Because now, see, Israel is controlling our foreign policy! Israel is controlling Donald Trump. Donald Trump is doing the bidding of the Jews!

No. Nope. No, he didn't.

No, he wasn't being controlled. And, no, they weren't controlling him. It was actually seemingly quite the opposite. Because he did something extraordinary. He took the entire region, and brought them together!

First, he did it with the Abrahamic -- Abraham Accords. That is the first genuine realignment of the region, in a generation, or maybe two.

And it wasn't about ideology. It was all about survival, prosperity. And the shared fear of Iran's growing shadow!

When we drop the bombs on Iran, Americans, and people in the West, and people who have been educated in our universities, and have been indoctrinated with all of this garbage, they looked at that and said, "Oh, my gosh, look at. He's doing Israel's bidding."


No, he was actually doing Israel's bidding. He was doing Saudi Arabia's bidding. He was doing a bidding of Egypt. Everyone in the Middle East. Everyone in the Middle East. Hates Iran. They know how dangerous Iran is. They wanted somebody to put Iran in its place. So when Donald Trump did, the Middle East, the Arab world, celebrated. Not obviously not all of it, but a lot of it. The ones that are now at the table. He did something else: He proved himself to be an honest broker, and not doing the bidding of just Israel. And I would love to hear all of the people who are now standing up and saying, "See, we are just a puppet."

I would love to hear your explanation of this. When Israel went after Qatar, which I don't have any love at all for Qatar. But they went after Qatar. And that was going to blow this whole thing up.

What happened? Donald Trump went to Benjamin Netanyahu, and said, "You need to apologize to Qatar."

Israel and Netanyahu is not going to apologize. They ended up apologizing to Qatar. "That won't happen again."

That gave Donald Trump the -- the -- the image in the Middle East of not being the little boy toy, but the other way around. He has some control of what Israel is going to do. He can tell them, "Knock it off."

Then when everybody came to the table, the Middle East all came to the table and said, "Okay we'll handle Hamas. You handle Israel."

So they got Hamas to the table and said, "You're going to take this, and we're going to guarantee the peace." And Donald Trump went to Benjamin Netanyahu. Benjamin Netanyahu said, "We have to finish the job. We have to finish them off."

And Donald Trump said, "No, you're going to take this deal now."

And Benjamin Netanyahu said, "No, we have to finish them off." And he said, "I don't think you hear me: You're going to take this deal." That's how this happened. That's a miracle. He didn't try to make them friends, he tried to make them partners. They all want prosperity. And now, we are -- we're looking at the fruits of the labor that started with the Abrahamic Accords. The Arab states signed it to enforce peace rather than to sabotage it. For the first time in 4,000 years! The blood-soaked sands of Gaza whisper something today, that has been forgotten for 4,000 years. And that is hope.

If it hollows, even if it holds for a year, five years, ten years, it means centuries of hatred has been overtaken by something stronger than hate.

And even if we just start with survival, that's good!

It means that the children of Abraham, which is both the Arab and the Jew, the descendents of Abraham, long divided by faith and pride, have decided, choose life over death, trying to prove you're right!

It means the Biblical land of Gaza, where Samson fell, where violence has filled the earth, might finally learn the meaning of peace. But if it doesn't, and the rockets return and the lies reawaken, and this will just be another tombstone in the desert of broken promises. But the Bible says, "Blessed are the peacemakers. The Lord hates the hands that shed innocent blood." So if this holds, if this holds, if courage triumphs over chaos -- let's remember that peace is not the absence of war, it's the presence of righteousness. And righteousness, true, moral clarity demands that we call evil by its name. And we stand with truth, even when it's costly. And we defend the innocent, even when the world looks away. And now, it is our job, as long as this holds, to rebuild. I am so happy to say, "We are not being asked to rebuild. Not our money."

The Middle Eastern money is coming in now, to rebuild the region. As it should be. Men haven't suddenly become good, but for once, maybe they're choosing life over death or survival. But perhaps they've remembered and seen God's warning and chosen mercy over their rage.

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The surprising link between Hamas, the Palestinian flag, and Biblical prophecy

Is Hamas mentioned in the Bible? Does the Palestinian flag have a connection to a prophecy in the Book of Revelation? Glenn Beck speaks with filmmaker Dinesh D’Souza about his new film, “The Dragon’s Prophecy,” based on the book by Jonathan Cahn, that discusses these “coincidences.”

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GLENN: Dinesh, welcome to the program, how are you?

DINESH: Glenn, it's a great pleasure. Thanks for having me.

GLENN: Oh, you're welcome. I watched your film last week, and I've got to tell you, it's -- it's frightening, and really powerful.

DINESH: Well, we begin, Glenn, as you know with putting you on a motorcycle with a GoPro, and you ride with Hamas into the Kibbutz. Hamas took this footage. Remarkably, not a lot of people have seen it. The Israel government, I think was reluctant to show it, except to a handful of journalists.

But it opens my film, and it has a bit of a graphic warning. But it's ten minutes of putting you right on the scene of October 7th, 2 years ago, and the film kind of takes off from there, to give you the widest significance that engages politics, but history, archaeology. And even as you mentioned, a hint of Biblical prophecy, so that the political is wedded into the moral of the spiritual.

GLENN: So let me play a trailer here from the movie. Here it is.

VOICE: So who are the Jews? Who are the Palestinians? Whose land is it really? Could the fate of the world, of humanity itself, be somehow tied to this place?

VOICE: The nation of Israel is a resurrected nation. So what if there was going to be a resurrection of another people, an enemy people of Israel? The Bible speaks about this whole war as a dragon, representing the enemy, attacking a woman, representing Israel.

VOICE: Civilian deaths on both sides represent victories on the part of the dragon.

VOICE: Hamas burned everything within their ability to maximize the civilian casualty.

VOICE: Came back to a land that was largely barren, and we brought it back alive, and we are going to keep it!

VOICE: The devil hates the Jewish people because they represent the existence of God!

VOICE: Because without that Jewish foundation, there is no Christianity.

GLENN: So let us -- go to the Dragons Prophecy here for a second. What is the case of the Dragons Prophecy?

DINESH: Glenn, in the Book of Revelation 12, there is a depiction of a dragon representing the devil, going to war against a woman, representing Israel. And the woman is pregnant, representing the Messiah. So this is the sort of spiritual backdrop. It's a confirmation of what people sometimes say, that underneath our political fight, there is a spiritual war. But people don't often ask, who is fighting? Like who are the combatants?

And the answer is, this is a war that has been raging between sort of God and the devil from the very beginning of time. And the provocative idea in the film is that the devil cannot overthrow God, and so the -- the devil tries to find out, what is it that God cares about? Let me ruin that!

So in Genesis 1, for example, why does the serpent target Adam and Eve? Adam and Eve have nothing to the devil, but the devil goes, "I want to ruin them, because this is God's cherished creation. If I can ruin them, I can get my revenge against God."

And I think for the same reason, the devil targets the Jews and the Christians. The Jews, because they are the original chosen people. And so the devil's agenda is really simple: Drive them out of their ancestral homeland from the river to the sea. And also, put a big Islamic victory arch right on top of their holiest sight, which is the site of the Solomonic Temple.

And then, of course, the Christians are, the Bible itself, refers to Christians as like spiritual Israelites. And so the Devil is like, I hate that too. I will persecute and harass and destroy the Christians no less than the Jews."

And, look, this is not just sort of idle Biblical speculation. You can see this happening right in front of us in the world today.

GLENN: Talk to me about the meaning of the word Hamas, Palestinians, where that came from. Can you take us through that a little bit?

DINESH: Yeah, this is the genius of Jonathan Khan and his book, The Dragon Prophesy. He points out that Hamas in Arabic means something like force or strength, but in Hebrew, interestingly, the -- the word means violence and destruction. And if you -- in Hebrew, it literally says things like, "Lord, save me from the men of Hamas, or Hamas dwells in the dark places of the earth."

GLENN: I had to go to my Bible to look it up.

It does say that. It does say that. It's crazy!

DINESH: Yes. Not only that, Glenn. But the four colors of the apocalypse, mentioned in the Book of Revelation, which reflects famine, death, and destruction. The white horse, the black horse, the green horse, the red horse.

Han points out. He goes, just take a look at the Palestinian flag. It's made up of four colors. Basically, white for the white horse. Red for the red horse. Black for the black horse. Green for the green horse. And all of this, I think, within -- if there's a single connection, you can be like, "Hmm. I don't know."

But there are so many of these connections out in the film.

GLENN: So many.

DINESH: That, ultimately, it's almost like, you have to sort of -- you have to step back and reconsider if you are even understanding what's happening in front of you, in the widest and sort of deepest possible light.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know about, you know -- I haven't studied this, you know, enough. I just watched the movie once.

And it's worth watching. But you will go back to Scriptures, and you will look it up. It is worth pondering. Because it shows you, where we might be right now. And the battle that we're preparing for.

Which is a really terrifying thing. But I would rather know it, so I can be prepared for it.

You also -- you know, did a lot of archaeological stuff. What stood out to you in the research that you did?

DINESH: What stood out to me, Glenn, was that for 2000 years, and even more, there are figures that appear in the Bible, Pontius Pilate, Isaiah, Jeremiah. We're going for King David. We're talking now about three -- a thousand DC.

So 3,000 years ago. And even 30 or 40 years ago, if you said, prove to me that these figures are real. Prove to me, outside the Bible, using historical or archaeological evidence, you couldn't do it. Remarkably, just in the last few decades, there are conscriptions and stones and clay seals, coming out of the ground, that are showing that these Biblical figures are real, the Bible is an account of real people and true events. So you could dispute the theology of the Bible. You can question the miracle. But the historicity of the Bible is being resoundingly affirmed.

And it's almost as if the world has become more secular and pulled away from God, God is speaking back.

But not in the thunderous language of Genesis 1. You know, in the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. But rather, in the kind of prosaic language of science and archaeology.

GLENN: Yeah. It was really amazing. Because you don't think -- we live in our time. And so you don't think of the times that have come. David didn't exist.

You know, these stories are true. They didn't exist. And now we're finding all of the archaeological evidence, and we just -- at least I did. I just accepted, that, "Yeah. These -- the big things, we knew existed." No. No. We didn't. It's now just being proven now because of what we're finding in archaeological digs.

DINESH: Not only that, but for centuries, really for two centuries going back to the enlightenment, you have the armchair critics who would read the Bible and say, "Well, it looks to me, this was written several hundred years later."

But now we know that that can't be the case, because there are minor -- minor figures in the Bible. And, you know, the royal steward of King Josiah in, like, the 6th or 7th Century DC, and suddenly a seal comes out of the ground in Jerusalem and there's this name on the seal. Now, nobody 300 years later -- this is like asking for the names of interns who worked for Donald Trump. Hundreds of years from now. Who would possibly know their names and identities?

So this is why the Bible is being affirmed, even at the level of excruciating detail.

GLENN: The fact that everyone said that Pontius Pilate didn't exist. And the stair that has his name carved into it, 2000 years ago, that was discovered.

It's those things that you're like, "I mean, how do you deny some of this stuff now?"

I mean, it's just piling up.

DINESH: It's -- it's utterly impossible. And then we are in Jerusalem, and we go up to this place called Sheillo, in the middle part of Israel, and we find these remarkable red heifers. I've read the book about the red heifers. This has to do with the fact that in the end times, the dome of the rock will come down. The Jewish Temple -- the Solomonic Temple will be rebuilt, and some of the rabbis are actually preparing for temple services, which involve the ashes of a red heifer.

So all of this is not just interpretations. You have people in Jerusalem. And in Israel, actually preparing for this. In a practical way.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

In fact, one of the things that they said. Let me take a break. And have you come back and answer this. One of the things they said.

Because we were talking about the red rest offers two years ago.

And they were talking about maybe making, you know, red heifers into ashes to prepare.

And Hamas said, at the time, that's one of the reasons why they -- they went after on October 7th, was because of the red heifers. And you go into that. And what they really call October 7th.

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