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O'Reilly: There's No Way to Win Militarily in Afghanistan

Why are U.S. troops still in Afghanistan, and why can’t they just be brought home? Bill O’Reilly joined Glenn for O'Reilly Fridays to give his quick breakdown of the situation.

According to him, the NATO alliance essentially has two choices in Afghanistan: Leave and let the Taliban take over the country, or stay and use the force of NATO troops to stabilize the local government. But despite what President Donald Trump has said, it’s simply not possible to “win” in Afghanistan, O’Reilly asserted.

“They are incapable of imposing an orderly society on a primitive society,” he said.

Glenn countered that there's a fundamental problem with that kind of thinking.

"We think we're there to nation-build or save or leave them. We're not. That's not what the military is supposed to do," Glenn said.

Even so, the reality of the the U.S. leaving is stark.

If the U.S. and NATO pull out of Afghanistan, the Islamic fundamentalist movement known as the Taliban, which ran the country until the U.S. invaded in 2001, will regain power and be boosted by the Islamic State. Militarily speaking, the U.S. can’t “win” either way.

GLENN: All right. So go back to Bill O'Reilly from BillOReilly.com. Let's start here with the President, in a meeting with generals, apparently. Very uncomfortable meeting in the situation room, coming out and saying, "We're losing the war in Afghanistan, and I'd rather talk to the guys on the ground than you clowns." Saying this to the general.

I cheer. I am so happy to hear that. I don't know who was in the room. I don't know if they were all clowns or not. But it is about time somebody says, "What the hell are we even doing?" Besides getting into the middle of, you know, a prohibition situation in the poppy fields in Afghanistan, what the hell are we even doing there anymore? Finish it and come home. Bill?

BILL: All right, but they can't finish it, because they, they being the NATO forces, primarily backed by Americans, are incapable of imposing an orderly society on a primitive society.

When I went to Afghanistan, Beck, I was flying in from London on a private plane. And the pilot said to me, we're going to land in 10 minutes, and I was up in the cockpit with the pilot and copilot. And I looked down, and it was black, and I said, what do you mean we're going to it land? Where are we going to land? He said, we're going to land in Kabul, in Afghanistan, at Bagram. And there was one light in the whole country. I said, where's the lights? He goes, they don't have electricity.

GLENN: No, so wait a minute, hang on, Bill. This is the fundamental problem. We think we're there to nation-build or save or leave them. We're not. That's not what the military is supposed to do.

BILL: Right. So Mattis knows that, the Defense Secretary, and life expectancy in Afghanistan is about 40, four-zero, okay? About 65% of the population can't read. So you're not going to get a nation that's going to function in a way that's going to protect its citizenry. So you have a decision to make, "you" being NATO and the United States. Do you pull out of there and let the Taliban come back in and run it? Which is exactly what would happen. And then ISIS would form an alliance with the Taliban, so you have ISIS camps and presence just like in al-Qaeda before 9/11. Do you allow that? Or do you basically do a police action from Bagram and keep 10,000 NATO troops there to allow the government function, and to keep the Taliban from taking over? So, that's your decision. There's nothing else. And if President Trump thinks that we're going to win militarily, you're not going to win.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: Alright? It's just not going to happen, because Pakistan allows the Taliban to base on Pakistani soil. So that's what it is. And everybody should know what it is.

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