BLOGAugust 09, 2017

‘Everyone Is Watching Each Other’: Author Explains North Korea’s Isolation From the World

North Korea is famously isolated from the rest of the world, with the government blocking internet access and controlling everything from food to hairstyles to social groups. It’s almost impossible for two North Koreans to conspire together because people are watching and listening all the time for anything that goes against the government.

“This did not happen overnight,” author Michael Malice said of North Korea’s isolation. “This was a 70-year methodical process.”

Malice, author of “Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Autobiography of Kim Jong Il,” explained that the Kim family has been working to build up barriers between North Korea and the rest of the world for decades.

North Korean society is divided into government-designated groups, and once a week, North Koreans talk about what they did “wrong” that week in front of their peers. This level of scrutiny makes it nearly impossible for North Koreans to speak against Kim Jong Un and his regime even in casual conversation.

“Everyone is watching each other all the time and reporting on each other all the time,” Malice said.

GLENN: Michael Malice is a guy who went behind the Iron Curtain. It's a very closed country. And he left there and he wrote a book called, Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Biography of Kim Jong-il.

Michael, welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

MICHAEL: Oh, it's a great honor, Glenn.

GLENN: Thank you.

First of all, tell me, what got you to go to North Korea? I mean, you stalking Dennis Rodman, or?

MICHAEL: Well, here's the thing and something you kind of touched upon: It was bothering me a lot how so much of the press about North Korea is complete misinformation. And I said, "I'm going to do something about this once and for all." Now, I was born in the Soviet Union. I'm Jewish. These were two chances for my family to have been sent to a concentration camp. And there's concentration camps in North Korea right now. You know, people ask, how did we let the Holocaust happen? They have the camps right now. You can see the camps on Google Earth. And yet so many of these news reports want to look at North Korea and be like, "Aren't these people all silly?" It's like, yeah, these are 25 million hostages. If the government had a gun to your head and the heads of your children, you would be doing pretty silly things too.

So that's why I wrote my book Dear Readers, so that people could understand exactly what's going on there. Because it's not at all how it's portrayed in the press.

GLENN: So I would like to get into the concentration camps with you. Because people don't understand that it's not your sentence. It's they sentence you and your family for three generations. I mean, it's -- it is -- it's evil and crazy what is happening there. Most people in the west can't even begin to understand it.

But can we go back and try to explain and tell us some stories that you saw firsthand on how the North Koreans are so isolated that they have really no concept of what's really going on in the world. And they think that they can beat the United States.

MICHAEL: Well, they're not completely, completely isolated because the barriers, thankfully, have been breaking down a little. However, to your question, this did not happen overnight.

GLENN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: This was a 70-year methodical process by this gangster family. And step by step, they built up barriers to separate North Korea from the rest of the world, things like anyone who spoke other languages or who studied abroad were sent to the concentration camps. Things like books in other languages being destroyed and no longer being allowed to be taught.

Let me give you an example of the mechanisms that they use to control their population. And, again, it's things we can't even wrap our heads around here.

Everyone in North Korea is slotted into some group. Your school. Your office. Your neighborhood. And once a week, that group gets together, and you have to stand up in front of your peers and say, "This is what I did wrong this week." And then your peers have to stand up and say what they noticed you doing wrong.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

MICHAEL: So everyone is watching each other all the time and reporting on each other all the time. So a lot of times, the people are like, well, why don't they just get together and overthrow the government. If you have two people conspiring, they're done.

And as you said, the founder of North Korea, the great leader Kim Il-sung said, "Class enemies must be exterminated to three generations." So they take three generations of a family -- and even Stalin at least had trials. There's no trials. You get a knock at the door in the middle of the night. The family gets taken. And you don't even know which one of you got you sent to the camps or to the countryside. They don't tell you. It's just, "Come with me."

GLENN: Let's -- let's -- can we go back to the Korean War and how they're viewing America. They've been -- you know, we had the Korean War. And it became a TV show called M*A*S*H. And that's it. For them, they have been preparing for this time since the 1950s.

MICHAEL: Right. So according to one of their books and according to their worldview -- by the way, you can't refer to us as Americans. We are always referred to by a slur like the US Imperialists. And it's just how the language is taught there. So automatically, when they're talking about us, they're using offensive terminology. There's a book in North Korea called The US Imperialists Started the Korean War. They are taught that we started the Korean War, that we've been waiting to conquer Korea since the 1860s when General Sherman went to Pyongyang. That part is true. We did visit them back in the 1860s.

And now we've been biding our time to come back and to finish the job that we started. Now, many of your listeners are veterans. The Korean War was completely devastating to the Korean Peninsula. You had China, Russia, and North Korea at the north. South Korea, US, and the UN at the south. And between the two, the devastation was complete.

So their whole point is, you remember how bad it was in the '50s. Well, any day now, the Americans are going to come back and finish that job. And, but for the leader, you would all be dead.

GLENN: And you say "but for the leader," what's remarkable is the calendar has been reset. It's the year, what?

MICHAEL: So the calendar starts -- again, they're not going to have a Christian calendar. Because having a Bible is the death penalty, right? So you're not going to have BC and AD. So their calendar starts with the birth of the great leader Kim Il-sung in 1912. So that's year one.

GLENN: Okay. So -- and he was -- I remember one of the Kim family was brought down, you know, by angels or birds. And -- I mean, crazy kind of stuff that he remembers the day of his birth. Do they -- do they believe this?

MICHAEL: There is a lot -- it's very funny because they claim to be an atheist country. But there's all sorts of supernaturalism that revolves around the Kim family. So Kim Il-sung, the great leader, the founder of North Korea, he had missionaries in his family. And he adopted a lot of Christian mythology and applied it to his life and the life of his son and his wife. So they have a holy trinity, which is the great leader Kim Il-sung, who is the founder of North Korea, and Kim Jong-un's uncle. We have Kim Jong-il, who was the dear leader. He's their Jesus figure. And Kim Jong-il's mother, who is always referred to as anti-Japanese heroine, Kim Jong-suk. They always picture here with a gun in her hand. So this is the holy trinity that keeps Korea safe. And they have Mount Paektu at the north, which is basically like their Mount Zion, which is the spirit of Korea and basically the embodiment of the Korean energy. So they have a lot of mystical stories about this family and basically -- but for Kim Il-sung, you know, who is almost a messiah figure, Korea would still be under the boot of Japan.

GLENN: So when the UN passed these really tough sanctions -- I'm for the sanctions. I don't know what else to do. Going in with military is just -- is almost and may be an act of insanity.

MICHAEL: Right.

GLENN: But, you know, when you see the sanctions, the people have no idea that their leaders are the ones that are starving them and choking them to death. And this will only be blamed on us. And it will only make their lives worse.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: How do you break that, in that culture? Is it even possible to get people to understand, "No, no, it's -- your leader is evil?"

MICHAEL: Well, it started happening on a micro level. You remember towards the end of the Cold War, despite decades of communist propaganda, what happened is Russia people were watching American soap operas on television. And they were thinking to themselves, it's all well and good what I'm taught in school, but why does the maid on this television show have a fur coat and I'm literally wiping my butt with newspaper? You know, I don't care about Marx, whatever. I just want food for my kids.

GLENN: Right.

MICHAEL: And North Korea, the same thing is happening. They are seeing that all these other countries are wealthier than them. It doesn't matter what you teach me in school. I want my kids to have food. It's as simple as that.

So one of the things that has happened is they have changed their propaganda from, we are wealthy, and the world envies us. And now the propaganda says, we are keeping Korea pure. So it is also the most homogeneous and most racist country on earth. This is something that's not talked about in the press, that they believe Korea is the only country that has been racially pure since Neolithic times. And they regard the South as a region under US occupation, where we basically assault southern Korean women -- Americans do -- and do with them as we please. Us -- we being barbarians. So that's another aspect of their propaganda.

GLENN: So looking at what you know about North Korea and hearing the president yesterday --

MICHAEL: Yes.

GLENN: -- how is that interpreted by Kim Jong-un and -- and the people around him?

MICHAEL: I would honestly say it's going to be interpreted with a bit of respect.

GLENN: Oh, good.

MICHAEL: And here's why: They are bullies. Right? So let me -- when they talk about we know how to treat America -- in their words, they say, when necessary, we'll slap her across the face.

And, you know, I remember last year, year and a half ago, there was this photo released of Kim Jong-un in front of his Apple Computer. And there were nukes striking Austin. And the things that they get away with saying are just completely outrageous. So Trump was basically using their language against them. So on some level, they're going to have a bit of respect for it, just like anyone who runs his mouth. At a certain point, you have to get in his face. Now, I'm not saying you have to get in his face and shove him, but on some level, they're going to say, okay. This is going to be a difference in tone at least, from previous administrations.

GLENN: So where does he go from here? You know, he has killed everybody in his family who could have challenged him. He's done it openly. He's killed everybody around him that could challenge him.

MICHAEL: He's only killed one person. And actually, let's talk about how evil this family is: Kim Jong-un's aunt. Kim Kyong-hui, Kim Jong-il's sister, that was her husband who was killed. And she's such an evil woman, that when her daughter married someone who was below their social station, she drove her daughter to suicide.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Wow.

PAT: Didn't he have both his uncle and his brother killed -- the guy in the airport, right? Which one was that?

GLENN: The brother.

PAT: Wasn't that his brother? And then supposedly he had his uncle torn apart by dogs.

GLENN: Yeah. I thought -- he had somebody else killed by standing them in front of a cannon and blowing a hole through.

PAT: Are these urban legends, or did that actually happen?

GLENN: Is that the way he is, Michael?

PAT: Did we lose him?

GLENN: We've lost Michael.

Okay. So get him back on the phone. Let me take a quick break. Fascinating --

PAT: I guess we'll never know.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Having somebody -- I can't wait to also talk to him about his experience in the former Soviet Union.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Anyway, he'll be back in just a second.

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(OUT AT 10:23AM)

GLENN: We're talking to Michael Malice. He is the guy who went over to North Korea, wrote a book called Dear Reader, and saw behind the curtain, if you will. He's also a former citizen of the Soviet Union. So he has -- he has seen it from both sides. We were just talking to you, Michael, and we lost our connection, about, you know, we have heard that he killed his brother and his uncle.

MICHAEL: Right.

GLENN: And then a lot of the people around him who could have challenged him, he has taken out and done horrible things to. True or false?

MICHAEL: Okay. So the last part is false because theres no -- there's no one around him who could have challenged him because the point is, it's only a descendent of the great leader Kim Il-sung, who could be in the leadership position. So the people at the very top there, it's not like they were voted in. They're only at the very top specifically because of their loyalty to the regime. In fact, unless you're loyal to the regime, you're not allowed to even step foot in Pyongyang. You're geographically assigned where to live in North Korea, based on how loyal you and your family has been to the regime. That's number one.

GLENN: Wow.

MICHAEL: So he killed his elder half brother, who he only met once, I believe, because, again, only a descendent of Kim Il-sung can be the leader. So if your brother is killed, there's no plan B for you, if Kim Jong-un is taken out. There's not a Mike Pence sitting in the wings.

GLENN: Hmm.

MICHAEL: And lastly, one of the things that I was fighting about -- fighting, you know, when writing Dear Reader is the sensationalism. We tend to believe the craziest possible stories about North Korea. And South Korea reported that his uncle -- technically, his aunt's husband was eaten by dogs. That's not true. He was shot. But he was killed, and with her agreement.

GLENN: So then, you know, we keep hearing that he feels backed in a corner.

MICHAEL: That's right.

GLENN: Who is he backed in a corner by if there's no -- if there's nobody to take his place?

MICHAEL: Well, he's -- there's increasing pressure from America. There's increasing pressure from China. And what would happen is when -- you remember possibly Romania, when Ceausescu, the evil dictator of Romania for decades, when he was take -- there was a moment, and it's a very beautiful moment for everyone who loves freedom, when this horrible dictator was on TV, and for the first time the crowd starts booing. And you see the look on his face. And two or three days later, him and his wife were shot.

Kim Jong-il took that video and showed it to all the leading party cadres and said -- said, "If the masses rise up, this is what is going to happen to us." So when these regimes go down, the people at the very top like Gadhafi, like Hussein are personally killed, and with good reason.

So that's another very important incentive for Kim Jong-un to do anything he can to stay in power. It's not like if he's removed from power, he's going to, you know, retire to Saint-Tropez. This man is a monster.

GLENN: So I've only got about 30 seconds here, so perhaps I ask it and then we come back on the other side. Because I really want to know also about, you know, the former Soviet Union and your life there.

MICHAEL: Sure. Yeah.

GLENN: But I guess what I would like to know -- and I don't know if you could answer this: So is he likely to just kind of be quiet and allow himself to be put into a box, or is he the type that will fire off a missile because he's a god?

MICHAEL: He's the type who was taught and believes, you fight fire with twice as much fire and escalate whenever possible, especially when you're the small dog.

GLENN: Okay. So what that means exactly, we come back. You can find Michael at MichaelMalice.com.

(OUT AT 10:30AM)

GLENN: Michael Malice, he is an author and commentator. He's an expert to North Korea. Traveled to the very closed country. Wrote a book called Dear Reader. The unauthorized autobiography of Kim Jong-il.

You just said to me, Michael, that Kim Jong-un is a guy who believes if you're hit, you hit back twice as hard. You don't back down. And as you're describing the traits of Kim Jong-un, you're also describing our president.

MICHAEL: Well, I mean, to some extent. You remember during the campaign, Trump did apologize for the audio that got out. And I don't think President Trump would be comfortable starving 10 percent of the population.

GLENN: Oh, no, no, no. I don't mean it that way. No, no, no, I don't mean it -- I do not mean to equate the two of them. I mean, just as far as tactics.

MICHAEL: Yes.

GLENN: You know, last night, I thought the press -- the press was crazy last night.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: They were almost saying, you know, we got to have war because, Mr. President, now you're not going to have any credibility. You can't back down. It was crazy.

MICHAEL: Glenn, it was terrifying that they're basically saying, "Oh -- first of all, the idea if North Korea is going to attack us, that they're going to go after Guam is insane on its face. They're going to have one shot, they're going to make it count, to be totally Machiavellian about it.

But let's have some perspective: For decades, we had hundreds, if not thousands of nuclear weapons from the Soviet Union pointed at us and our allies. And that was something that we managed to deal with. So this situation is not entirely without precedent.

GLENN: Okay. So that is --

MICHAEL: So everyone should take a deep breath, you know.

GLENN: So my position today has been pretty much that: Take a deep breath.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: There is no good answer to this. The thing to do is walk away, keep your eye and ear to the ground.

MICHAEL: Yes.

GLENN: But just walk -- there's no good answer to this.

MICHAEL: And --

GLENN: Is that enough for Kim Jong-un?

MICHAEL: Well, it's scary to me how so many people are saying that because Kim Jong-un is treating our country and our president with disrespect, that we -- I saw one commentator say, "We should rain hellfire on North Korea."

GLENN: That's craziness.

MICHAEL: I mean, these are 25 million -- you want to talk about having the moral high ground, being the moral leader of the free world, and you're going to be killing 25 million slaves and hostages. What kind of person are you that -- not only that, what kind of person are you that that's your first reaction, as opposed to a last resort? It's terrifying.

GLENN: No. I was watching last night -- I'm so glad to hear you saying this, Michael. I was watching CNN. And they kept going on and on and on about, you know, how the president said all these things. And now there's a red line. And -- and -- and -- and commentator after commentator yesterday was saying, "You know, we don't have a choice. We can't be embarrassed. We can't, you know, be the laughing stock."

And I'm thinking, "We're talking about the possibility of millions dead. Who cares about your stupid honor if all it means is, you know what, I said something I shouldn't have said? I'm going to shut my mouth now, and what do you say we leave those millions alive?"

MICHAEL: Glenn, I'm going to make it even worse. The people in these concentration camps are told constantly and explicitly -- there's like 100, 200,000 people. Should the US imperialists invade, we will kill you all and burn these camps to the ground. So like you're saying, if someone has a gun to my kid's head, if someone -- if at some school, someone has a bomb that they're going to blow up a school, they can call me every name in the book. Please, call me all the names you want. Just don't kill the children. And the idea that, well, we better go in and kill the children first, as the response, is even more demented.

GLENN: How is North Korea -- if the United States would respond, I can't imagine that South Korea -- because it would be almost like our American civil war --

MICHAEL: Right.

GLENN: -- is going to sit happily by as, A, Seoul is most likely destroyed.

MICHAEL: Yes.

GLENN: And, secondly, they have family members up there. It would be viewed as the United States killing their family members, would it not?

MICHAEL: To some extent, those families have been separated now for 70 years with no communication with each other.

But let's talk something else: You know, people saying they have nukes now. This is unprecedented. They've had missiles pointed at Seoul for decades.

GLENN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: Seoul is a city with, you know, tens of millions of people, with skyscrapers. Can you imagine the imagery of missiles hitting a city full of skyscrapers? Even if they didn't have nukes, is that something people are comfortable with? Or it's just, well, at least it wasn't nukes that are hitting these skyscrapers. I mean, is that what we're talking about? And that is what we're talking about.

So it's a very dangerous situation. And, Glenn, I know you remember very well the -- the war mania that led up to the Iraq War, and how everyone was like, "We got to do something. We got to do something now. Emergency. Emergency. Emergency." Let's freak out. Let's do things as quickly as possible.

And it's like, what I was taught growing up in school is that war is a last resort. It's not the first thing you do, and it's not your best option, especially when you're dealing with a regime that is comfortable with killing its own citizens to maintain its hold on power.

STU: Talking to Michael Malice.

KimJongilbook.com is the site.

Michael, is there an increase in their resources lately? I mean, they've been able to outpace all of our intelligence estimates as to what they've been able to develop.

GLENN: Like crazy.

STU: They're dumping money into things like renovating the Hotel of Doom, which, you know, is only the Hotel of Doom because they didn't have money at one point. Are they --

MICHAEL: Well, no, the Hotel of Doom -- so let's talk about how North Korea uses their army. North Korea, everyone in the army does construction. So they're not just sitting around or whatever. They actually build things.

So that hotel, which is I think at one point, the largest building in the eastern hemisphere or something crazy, the Ryugyong Hotel was structurally unsound. So it was never completed because it can't be completed. It's a complete mess.

And it just looms like this giant hulk over Pyongyang. But let me also talk -- you talk about having empathy for the North Korean people. When I went there and we were taking the bus from the airport to the capital city, my guide pointed at that hotel, and she goes, "Look, there's our latest rocket launch."

And, you know, we don't think of them as human beings. They have a sense of humor. They have families. You know, when you're on the street, you see the grandmothers doting with their grandkids. You see teenage girls giggling when you wave at them. The fact that these people are capable of having some semblance of humanity in the most inhumane country on earth behooves us when you read news reports and trying to make them out to be clowns. Keep in mind, again, like I said earlier --

GLENN: They're not clowns.

MICHAEL: -- if someone has your family as a hostage, you're going to put on clown makeup too.

GLENN: Yeah. And it's not -- the people are -- you know, when -- I think when somebody says, you know, these people are clowns, they're meaning, you know, I think people like Kim Jong-un, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. He's not a clown.

MICHAEL: No.

GLENN: He knows what he's doing. He just operates with a completely operating system than we do.

MICHAEL: Right. And the whole point of my book is spelling out how they operate and what they're doing. Because it's very logical. It's very methodical. But let me speak a bit about the clown issue: Like, I remember there was an article in a British paper that showed the marching. And it referred to Kim Jong-un's miniskirted robot army, that these young women, you know, in the army are all marching in lockstep and ha-ha-ha. It's like, you know, they're hostages. Of course, they're going to march like they're told. They're not robots. To call someone a robot is to act like they don't have a soul or a mind of their own, and they very much do.

GLENN: Okay. Well, let me ask you -- first of all, can we have you back? We're running out of time. Can we have you back tomorrow?

MICHAEL: Of course. It's an honor. We'll figure it out. We can figure it out, yes.

GLENN: Let me ask you two other questions: First of all, Otto Warmbier, the kid that went over.

MICHAEL: Right.

GLENN: Was caught stealing a propaganda poster.

MICHAEL: Right.

GLENN: Fifteen years.

MICHAEL: Trespassing.

GLENN: What did you say?

MICHAEL: Trespassing.

GLENN: Yes. Fifteen years to hard labor. Looks like they pretty much tortured him to death and dumped on our body, I thought, in a way that was very reminiscent of the Godfather.

MICHAEL: Yes.

GLENN: Sending us a message: Here's -- here's your citizen back.

MICHAEL: No, no, no, no. That's not it at all. They had him as a hostage. If you have a hostage, you want to return the hostage in one piece so you get your ransom. So when things turned south, they knew they couldn't take care of him, and that's why they dropped him off here. Think about it.

He didn't serve a day of hard labor. They treat their hostages very, very well because they're a valuable resource. Remember when they kidnapped that Ling reporter, they got President Clinton to fly to Pyongyang and kiss Kim Jong-il's ring? That's a great coup.

GLENN: Right. But this guy it looks like he was drugged and tortured. That's --

MICHAEL: My understanding is that the autopsies showed no signs of trauma, and this could have been self-harm.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Okay. Had not heard that one.

STU: Wow.

GLENN: One last question.

MICHAEL: Sure.

GLENN: Is there a -- is there something that we could be doing right now, other than sitting on our hands and just hoping for the best now? Is there something that we should be doing or we should be encouraging some other country to be doing?

MICHAEL: Yeah. We should be sitting down with China and saying, what is it going to take for you to turn on these people once and for all? And, frankly, Glenn, if they have --

GLENN: Oh. Did we lose him again?

MICHAEL: -- of food and they don't have concentration camps, I'm fine with it.

GLENN: You're saying: If -- if China would just roll in and they were still communists, but they were fed and no concentration camps...

MICHAEL: Right. Communism in the Chinese model, do you know what I mean? I could live with that. They don't have to have some Western liberal democracy. As long as they don't have to live in constant fear that their children are going to be murdered, that's all I need.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: How old were you when you left the former Soviet Union?

MICHAEL: Two years old.

GLENN: And your parents came over here with you, when?

MICHAEL: '78.

GLENN: So they escaped and knew what they were escaping?

MICHAEL: Oh, yes. Oh, of course. And it wasn't anywhere near as bad towards the end as it had been, you know, when they were growing up. And it certainly wasn't anywhere near as bad as North Korea.

GLENN: Do you watch the TV show The Americans?

MICHAEL: I couldn't because they have being patriotic Russians, and that wasn't a thing. By the '80s, everyone was cynical and knew that the system was nonsense.

PAT: Huh. Wow.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Okay. So I'd love to have you on, maybe again tomorrow. Because I'd like to talk to you about what it's like to live in a communist country.

MICHAEL: Oh, absolutely.

GLENN: What you know. And how we've kind of blown it here on our side. And maybe perhaps you have some insight on Putin as well, on --

MICHAEL: Well, I'll just tell you one sentence: We fought the KGB, and now we have the NSA. No, I'm not joking. I'm not joking. What's the difference?

PAT: Oh, man.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Mike, good to have you on. Michael Malice. MichaelMalice.com. MichaelMalice.com. You can buy the book, Dear Reader: The Unauthorized Biography of Kim Jong-il, and we'll talk to you again tomorrow a little bit about, you know, what it's like to live in a communist country and what your family saw and how that relates to today. Thank you so much, Michael. We'll talk to you again.

MICHAEL: Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: You bet.

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GLENN: Here's a bit of a Prager University video on South Africa.

VOICE: White South African farmers are being hunted from their land by black gangs. Facts. And I had a young son at the time, and he would sometimes have nightmares when the monsters would come at nighttime. But in South Africa, that is when the gangs come. And they work together, and they attack white farmers.

And some of the things that happened to white farmers, we don't talk about here. But the barbarity, it isn't just about burglary, which gets filed away as, this is torture. And the numbers of white farmers being killed is incredible. And because South Africans have expropriation without compensation, which basically means, we're taking your land. So I went and slept on the farms to feel the fear white people are -- are denied treatment, in hospitals, in South Africa.

It's an extreme situation that nobody --

GLENN: I'd like to get her on. This is a really bad situation. The reason why I want to play that for you, is because I believe there is genocide going on. But not to the numbers perhaps of what people think of genocide.

You know, CNN was like, there's only 1800 or 2000 white farmers that have been killed in the last few years.

I was like, oh, that's it. Okay. Okay.

At least we know what genocide is not.

Apparently, a couple thousand.

Genocide is a frame of mind.

You genocidal maniac. It's a frame of mind, that I will kill all of these people. For whatever reason.

These group of people. I think they should all die.

And if you take steps to do that, that's genocide.

You are trying to enact or help others enact genocide. Okay?

We'll get back to South Africa, and the -- what I believe is the genocide, just not the way you frame it.

6 million Jews. It's not that. But it is -- it's anti-racism. That's what it is.

You can't just not be a racist. You have to be an antiracist.

You have to hate the oppressor.

You have to do whatever you have to do. Because the oppressor is the evil one. And has to be stopped.

This is what's happening over in -- this is what's happening over in South Africa.

And it is a Marxist, racist ideology.

And it is destroying South Africa.

You know, you look at the 2000 white farmers. And I don't know if that number is entirely accurate.

But around 2,000 white farmers that have been killed.

Okay. That's a lot.

But they had 27 thousand murderers in that -- in that country.

Now, they're a country of 60,000. 65,000.

We're a nation of 350 million.

And we had 19,000 murders. Okay?

So think of the fear. That's a country completely out of control. And some of those were passions, and crimes of passion.

They were crimes of -- of burglary, perhaps. They were crimes just senseless, killing.

And some of them were genocide. Okay?

You don't dismiss genocide. And you don't dismiss a system that is producing 27,000 murders on average, every single year.

This is what happens. When a government starts to adopt all of the things that the left wants to us adopt. The antiracist point of view.

The let's not punish criminals. Socialist Marxist ideals.

Look at South Africa. That's what they want here. Now, they might say they don't. But, you know, they even say, you know.

I'm going to -- I'm going to put a bunch of bacon into my oven.

Because puppy dogs are going to pop out.

But you can believe whatever you want.

You can say whatever you want. But that's not going to happen. And I want you to look at the pattern here in America. Okay?

What are these -- they are -- the left now is defending murderers. Gang members.

Why? Because America is oppressive. They would rather have those guys returned safely, so they can -- I don't know. Go through trial. Or live here happily. Or I don't know.

They would rather have sanctuary cities that protect those people, than you!

How does -- that's not a winning strategy, for the next campaign.

It's just not. You know, going in and beating on police. I mean, just watch the video. You can say whatever you want about McIver. If you watch the video, you can see exactly what's going on. Okay?

She was assaulting police officers. And then she was trying to play victim. Because remember, that's what you do on the left. You make the other person the oppressor, and you the oppressed. So you get all the sympathy. And it's insane. And it's happening over and over and over again. Yet, the two Jews, last night, gunned down in the streets of Washington. Who were they? Pro-Hamas, Marxist communists. Okay.

You have something else going on. You also have the investigation into who is covering up for Joe Biden?

The auto-pen. Today, the news is, we have a -- listen to this.

A high, quote, high, high level democratic operative, that was involved in the campaign.

And involved with the White House.

That has come out now, as a confidential whistle-blower. To identify the three people that were not only guarding all of the secrets and keeping people away from the president.

Which was bad enough.

But this whistle-blower was now saying, they were making money on the signature machine.
The auto-pen.

Excuse me? You have a whistle-blower saying that. It will be turned over to the DOJ soon.

You will see these people tried. And hopefully, go to jail, if that evidence is true.

Today, you also have a story about the government knew, we now have a new report that is out. After an investigation.

That the government knew about the vaccine side effects. And the injuries that could happen, and they actively covered it up. You will see people, I think within the next two weeks.

You will see people marched in handcuffs because of that. The cover-up on the COVID.

You will see people marching in handcuffs, because of what happened to the White House. And that cover-up with the auto-pen.

You already saw McIver marching in handcuffs.

So there's two forces. This is what I want to tell you. There are two forces. One the United States government. Which is now the Justice Department. And the FBI.

Seemed to be moving in exactly the right direction.

You have ICE moving in the right direction.

And they are starting to enforce the law.

So what's that going to do to the other side?

The other side, these are Marxists, communists, antiracists. Radical revolutionaries.

Make no mistake. This is not your Democrat that you've known for years. That lives next door. These are radical revolutionary Marxists.

Communists.

Pro-Sharia law people. They do not want to live side by side with their neighbor. They do not want the American justice to be restored. They're looking for an entirely different justice. The kind of justice that you're now finding in South Africa.

And I'm sorry. But I'm not going to -- not on my watch.

Not on my watch. I don't think you're going to stand for it either.

But they're going to cause violence. What we have to do, is in every way possible, support the institutions that are moving in the right direction. Nobody is perfect. Nothing is perfect.

And I don't trust any of them -- the institutions right now. And I think George Washington would applaud me for that.

But that doesn't mean I want them all to go into a fiery furnace.

We have to have institutions, that we can trust. Or we have no civilization.

You know, Jonah Goldberg, you're pathetic. You're absolutely pathetic. He wrote something yesterday, about how me and Alex Jones are just, you know, all populist. And we're going to -- we're going to make sure that nobody believes in any institution.

That is exactly the opposite of what I am saying.

But we're -- we're under attack.

Voices like mine, saying this.

I'm under attack. Because people must have division.

I'm saying, do everything you can, to stop dividing.

Do everything you can. You've got to call, you've got to call a spade a spade.

You've got to say, that is evil. That is good. That is black. That is white.

You're a man. That's a woman.

You have to do that. But they're going to start get more and more violent in the next two or three years. Maybe it happens faster.

And they're going to use everything they can.

And they're going to also, they'll get into bed with anything that they can.

Do you know that the -- the push, for, you know, people standing up and, you know, protesting for these illegals, that are being -- do you know that China is funding a lot of that?

We just found that out today.

You think they have a pro-American. Pro-freedom agenda.

Had to. But these organizations don't care. They will take that money.

They don't care!

So we have to know who we are.

What we believe.

We have to know our Constitution.

We have to teach it to our family.

We have to stay calm. Be leaders. And you're only leaders if you're well informed.

Again, anybody who gets their news off of social media. The person who reads nothing, has a better education, than the people who only read social media.

Do not get your news from social media. You can get a dip. You can say, oh, wow. But then go in and investigate it.

Don't go in with the headlines.

Don't understand believe social media.

And as we saw yesterday. All the people who were saying, this is a conspiracy theory, about the whites and the farmers in South Africa.

They're all the same people that told you, there's nothing wrong Joe Biden.

So you have to decide what side you're on.

And what I know side you're on.

And, you know, somebody came to me, the other day. And they talked to me about you.

And they said, your audience -- and they know. Because they deal with audiences all over the country.

And they said, your audience is different than any other audience in America.

And I said, I know.

But how do you see it?

And they said -- they described it, exactly like I do.

You're the most honest, decent, kind, loving, true American that is not out for vengeance. But out for the American values!

You're the most polite. You still say please, thank you.

You still hold doors open for people.

You clean up after yourselves. You will have a big event in a park or something.

And you will clean up after yourself.

There is no group of people, I think, that's been assembled for broadcast, that is like this. And I -- I am honored to serve you, every day. Truly honored to serve you every day.

Things are going to get much, much better.

But it's going to be a hard slog, because I don't think the left is done. Because they're not -- they're not doing anything here that would lead to reelection.

They're not uniting with the average American. With these kinds of things. So what are they planning?

I think what all Marxists, antiracists, communists, and revolutionaries plan for every time.
Street action.

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Whoopi is WRONG. Here’s why Biden’s health cover-up matters

Whoopi Goldberg recently asked on “The View” why is it “important to know now” about President Biden’s cognitive and health declines while in office. Glenn Beck gives a fiery response, making the case that the American people MUST be told the truth.

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GLENN: If I suspect does Donald Trump was incompetent. Or somebody else was running things.

Or we were being lied to in any way, shape, or form. I would be on the air, today. Telling you that.

And every journalist, worth their salt.

No, every American has that responsibility!

No matter what the cost. No matter that it's going to mean that Kamala Harris is in.

Nope, sorry.

You -- I believe in the American people. More than I believe in me. And certainly, more than I do some group of people, whose whole existence is to get a politician elected.

If the truth doesn't matter on this, then neither does your vote.

And if that is true, we do not have a republic at all.

We have something else.

He doesn't know it is. But something we were never, ever meant to be.

That is why all of this matters.

I mean, here's Whoopi, yesterday, on the View.

VOICE: So should anonymous sources, who talked to Tapper and spoke up about their concerns, while he was still in office. And my other question is: Why is this important to know now?

VOICE: Yeah.

STU: Yeah!

VOICE: It's insane.

You know, we've got a lot of stuff to be concerned about, at the moment.

GLENN: Okay. Stop. Stop. Stop.

You're in the hospital. You just found out that several patients were left to die by a certain doctor, but you don't know which doctor.

You're now in the hospital with the same thing that they have. And you -- you say, could I get the name of that doctor, that -- and they say, no. That's not important.

That is about them. They are already dead. Don't worry about it.

You would get out of that hospital!

Okay?

That's the situation.

You don't know who did what! You certainly cannot be treated or healed, when you have no idea, who was hiding the death of those patients and protecting, what? An incompetent doctor. No, thank you!

No. That hospital is not for me!

GLENN: So there's a -- there's a couple of things that all tie into what we were just talking about, with -- with Whoopi Goldberg saying, what difference does it make?

Now, why do we need to know who was running the White House?

Why? I mean, it's so insane. It's honestly like saying, all right! So the bank was robbed.

They got their money back through insurance policy. Everybody is made whole. Why does this matter?

Why are we still going after these bank robbers? Are you crazy? I mean, the logic just does not work anymore. For a lot of people.

Because ends justify the means. You cannot take the position that Whoopi Goldberg is held for so long, with -- and then say, wow.

You know, we should go after those people. We should look into that. Because that's a danger to the republic. And once you say that. Then you're like, wait a minute. I've been saying that Donald Trump was a danger to the republic. I denied all of this. What did I really believe now?

What side am I really on? What -- I don't have to like Donald Trump. But I do have to recognize my errors, and most people just can't do that.

And it is really sad. But that is what makes people leader. And then also makes people either leaders for the dark side. Or they just destroy themselves. Because the truth does matter.

And if you don't reconcile that in you. There's no way you can connect into the flow of life, for those of you listening in California.

There's a couple of things on this. Here's why it matters: Is anybody above the law?

We know that's against the law. And it matters, when it's happening. And after it's happening.

Okay?

You have a couple of people. You have the New York mayor.

Was arrested. For protest and charged with trespassing. By the US attorney for the district of New Jersey.

And she also arrested McIver. Who could be against MacGyver? Not that MacGyver. Congresswoman McIver. Now, it's on tape. They're seen pushing through guards, ICE guards.

This is not -- they were part of a protest, and they used that protest to storm the gates, to get past the guards.

That's not -- that's not doing your Constitutional duty. That's not. So why are we persecuting?

Because if you want to -- if you want to assemble peacefully in protest, I'm all for you.

I can despise what you're protesting for. But I'll stand with you.

Okay? Because you have that right to do it.

But you don't have the right to whip up a mob, and storm the gates.

You don't. That's where you're -- you're -- your constitutional rights stop right at that door.

Does it matter?

Yes. If we would have put people behind bars, who were looting Macy's. And burning cities down.

And we would have concentrated on the people, who actually believed that there was a problem with the police.

And wanted a real solution, if we would have listened to those peaceful protesters. And put the other protesters behind bars, we wouldn't be sitting in this situation.

Once you ignore something, you teach bad people, or even people who are just frustrated with the system, oh, well, if they can do it. I can do it too.

I mean, as soon as we stopped enforcing the law because of BLM. What happened to crime?

Do you think crime going up all over the country is for no reason whatsoever?

No. We stopped enforcing the law. We stopped arresting people for small crimes.

You know, now you can steal up to a thousand dollars. Well, what do you think happened?

Everybody went, well, I didn't steal a thousand dollars. I will know exactly what I'm going to steal. And I will take those things, and I can walk out. No harm, no foul.

That's why you lost your CVS, in many stores -- or, in many states all across the country.

Because if you teach that, well, then, everybody will just capitalize on it. You have to teach the opposite.

Your actions matter to our society.
Now, yesterday, Jay Bhattacharya, hosted his first staff town hall meeting. Sorry, it was on Monday.

At the National Institute of Health. He's the NIH director. This is -- this is Fauci's old stomping ground. So he's holding a -- an open town hall. And he's taking questions. And he's answering questions. And there were 1200 submitted questions. He took the questions. Answered as many as he could.

It was on in public, and, you know, you could go there, and you could also watch it online.

And he said, if it's true that we sponsored research that caused the pandemic, then that's a different story. And if you look at the polls of the American people. That's what most people believe.

It is -- I'm quoting. It is possible, the pandemic was caused by research, conducted by human beings.

It is also possible that the NIH partially sponsored some of that research. Now, as soon as he said that, dozens of NIH officials got up and walked out of the room.

And his response was, it's nice to have free speech.

You're welcome, you guys. Free speech.

If it is true, that we sponsored research, that caused the pandemic, and if you look at the polls of the American people. That's what most people believe.

I've looked at the scientific evidence. And I believe it's true!

What we now have to do is make sure that we do not engage in research, that is posing any risk to human populations. They got up. Even though, the CIA, everybody.

Everybody is now coming to the conclusion, this was cooked up in the lab. Okay?

EcoHealth looks like it was involved.

EcoHealth was a recipient of cash from the NIH.

We know that Fauci covered things up, and was in bed with EcoHealth.

We know all of that stuff, right?

We know it! Is it -- do we have absolute truth?

No. But we have -- we have -- beyond -- I believe, beyond reasonable doubt.

Okay. But still, let's pursue that.

Let's find out.

I predict that you will start seeing arrests, on COVID.

You're going to start seeing arrests of people that covered up. That is essential.

Why?

Because you just hate science?

Why?

Because you're just for Donald Trump, and anybody who was against Donald Trump should go to jail?

No!

Listen to what he said. If it's true, we sponsored research that caused the pandemic. And I've looked at the scientific evidence, and I believe it is.

Notice he said, I believe. He didn't say, it is.

He said, I believe it is.

If it's true, what we have to do is make sure that we do not engage in research that's posing any risk to human populations.

That's why it matters! That's why this matters!

Because if you don't admit it, if you don't track down, how did this happen? You cannot prevent it from happening again. You can't save the republic by ignoring that the president wasn't in control of his faculties, or the government!

You can't ignore that, and save the republic!

You can't ignore the truth, that the NIH, most likely, but you don't move until you know, that they were involved in a cover-up, because they were funding things they weren't supposed to be funding.

But Fauci was so arrogant, that he thought it was okay for him to do.

You can't predict -- you can't prevent the next pandemic, if you don't fix what was -- was causing this pandemic. That's why it matters, Whoopi.

They're going after Andrew Cuomo now, over the nursing home deaths. Okay?

DOJ is opening up an investigation on that. Whether he goes to jail or not, Stu. I know he has an opinion on this.

Weather he goes to jail or not. Whether he's guilty of it, or not.

Has to be proven in a court of law. I have seen the evidence. We've talked about it before. To me, it looks very -- it looks beyond a reasonable doubt, to me.

But this is in the court of law.

It needs to be investigated. It needs to be tried, in open and fair court. And if he's guilty, he needs to go to jail. Why?

Why would you do that? Because you hate the Cuomos?

No, because I love people more!

And I don't people to be able to be killed in a nursing home, because they're expendable. They're old. It doesn't matter anyway.

I don't want that happening!

And you can't solve that, unless you put the people behind bars that encouraged that! Because they'll just do it again. And if they don't, somebody else will do it.

This is why yesterday Trump just unloaded.

On the New Jersey Democrat charged with, you know, storming the gates at ICE.

Give me a break. Did you see her? She was out of control, he said. Out of control.

She assaulted a federal agent outside a New Jersey ICE facility. The days of that crap are over. In this country.

We are going to have law and order.

That's all I want. I don't want vengeance.

I don't want anything done in anger.

I want the system to work. I want law, for all people, to be equal. And I want order. We do it the right way.

That's why he was asking for.

Why does it matter? Because you can't -- you can't have it, if you don't enforce it now.

This, by the way, is the reason why his approval ratings are surging. Did you see he's up again in the polls?

All of these things are connected.

All of our problems, I would say, I shouldn't say all of our problems.

Most of our problems are caused in our country, politically. Because we no longer care about the Constitution.

We don't even know what it is.

And I'm not talking about the politicians. They give lip service to that. They don't know it.

They don't care. It never comes up in conversation. I know. I've talked to senators.

I've talked to representatives, on both sides of the aisle.

They never talk about the Constitution when they're putting anything together. They don't care!

Okay? They think they know better.

Rules are different now.

But they're not. So there's two reasons, why we're in the situation, we're in. One, three.

One, nobody notices the Constitution. Nobody is following it.

Two, nobody is listening to the sage advice of three presidents.

One, George Washington.

What was his farewell address about?

Don't get involved in these parties. These parties will kill you. They will figure it out. Don't overspend. Don't get involved in everybody else's affairs overseas. Be a friend to everybody. Now, if they attack you. We have to be strong.

But we're not involved in anybody else's business. Stay out of that business. Don't run up debt.

Well, they're -- all you have to do is listen to that guy. That one. Then we don't listen to Eisenhower, who said, okay. We have to do things now, to have a strong defense. So we will have a standing army now.

And because defense is now about nuclear weapons, we are going to have to have science, which means we will have to have education.

And so the money to education, to universities, to science. And to the military, has to be guarded by the American people.

Because the universities will train everybody to give what the government wants.

They won't be pursuing science anymore for science.

They will give it, what the government wants. So you will get the answers, the government wants.

Science will do the same thing. And the military will also start to promote foreign wars and wars of all kind. Because they want to sell weapons.
Warning. Do we listen to him?

No. No. Educational, scientific, and defense. All of them.

Sold out. And we don't really have any control. And the -- the last one, is Ronald Reagan.

Who said, within this generation. If we don't teach now, this is 1988. If we don't teach them now, the next generation will not be able to defend this country. Because they won't know our history. History is being lost.

It must be restored in schools and in our homes.

If we would have just listened to those three, and known the Constitution. We would not be any of these situations we are in now.

What do you say?

Let's listen to those three guys. Repair that. And learn the Constitution. That's what you can do as a citizen.

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Bombshell warning: Leftist tax could steal your assets before you cash out

An insane leftist policy that has DESTROYED nations could be coming to YOUR state, Glenn Beck warns. Glenn dives into how unrealized gains taxes work and why they’re devastating. Australia is now installing them. Will a state like California be next?

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GLENN: All right. I want to tell you a story here: And it's not just a story. It is actually now happening. In Australia. And it could be coming to a state and a government near you, soon. So let me tell you a story. Let's just call him David. David is not a billionaire. He doesn't have a private jet. He doesn't sip rare wine, you know, or hedge currencies in the caymans, okay?

He's a builder. Literally. He bought some land, let's say, 25 years ago on the edge of town.

No one had ever heard of this town, let alone this area. He poured some concrete. He raised walls. He rented the space to small businesses. And over time, that dusty little outskirt, became a thriving community. He kept the land.

The equity grew.

But he never sold anything.

He just reinvested. He repaired. He paid property taxes. Maybe he developed houses on some of that land. He hired help. Well, today on paper, tasted is worth now $3 million. In real estate assets alone. Okay?

Is that guy a fat cat that's calling the shots that needs to pay their fair share? Or have they already paid their fair share. Because they're just like you. They started with had to go. They worked hard. They invested.

And now they have assets. It's not expendable.

But he's worth $300 million in real estate. Okay. Now, let me tell you the part of the story that goes a little dark. It's called unrealized gains tax. That paper value becomes a real rob.

Because the state now wants to tax him. Not on the money he's made.

They've already done that. But on the theoretical increase in the value of his properties.

Now, he hasn't sold them. He doesn't want to sell them.

But they're going to tax him. Because he's made a profit. But he hasn't. Because he hasn't sold them. It's all on paper, but he has to pay taxes on that profit that is unrealized, he doesn't have. And if his property values plummet the next day, they don't give him the money back.

He just doesn't have to pay any more taxes, because the value has gone down, so he doesn't have to worry about that.

This is not a hypothetical. This is what is happening in Australia right now. A 15 percent tax on unrealized capital gains, for accounts, exceeding $3 million. Okay.

Is there anybody in this audience, that has put money into Bitcoin? And you put maybe a thousand dollars into it, because you're not rich. You put a thousand dollars into it. You put $5,000 into it.
But you really, I mean, it was scary to put that money in.

And you left it alone.

And now, maybe you're approaching $3 million. Now, they're going to tax you when they take that money out, but this is in addition to that! They are going to tax you on the gains!

Not when you take it out. They're going to take you on the gains, that you haven't taken. So if it goes up to 109. And now, all of a sudden, you're in Australia. And that account is now worth $3 million. Guess what!

You now have to pay income tax on that account. So you have to -- what would you do?

What would you do? You just go to your magic money printing machine, that the government would do.

Or do you have to sell something? Maybe the property. Maybe some of the Bitcoin.

And then you never get that money back. If it goes back down, which it will -- if it goes back down, they won't pay you.

Wait a minute, I paid it -- $109,000, and now it's worth 80. Do I get any of my money back? Because I just lost money? No. Uh-uh. No.

Imagine those who lived in California. Who maybe their parents bought a house. And it was $5,000 in 1960.

They still have the house. They can barely afford the taxes on it now, to keep it.

Because it might be worth $3 million, it might be worth $5 million. But it was $5,000 when her parents bought it. And they haven't gone up in their status. They're not hobnobbing it with Bill Gates. They're just regular people, who happened to get on a house from their parents. And they did well with it.

And it's the only asset they really have. But it's worth over $3 million.

Now, how will they pay that tax?
Because now, if it's $4 million.

I got to pay taxes on that. I have to pay 15 percent on that million dollars. Excuse me? I don't have that money! Well, all you have to do is sell your house. Now, let's just follow this logic here.

Consider who wins. Now, who is going to have to really pay this tax?

Is it going to be the ultra wealthy, with the teams of tax attorneys and offshore accounts?

Because they have the means to navigate around the taxes. No, no, no, no. This is going to hit the self-made man.

That's who this is going to hit. The self-made individual. The entrepreneur. The farmer. The small business owner.

They have built their wealth through hard work and prudent investment.

They have -- they have value in that land, that maybe their grandparents bought, and were farmers before them.

And they decided, you know what, I will stay in farming.

And they struggle every day. But now their land is worth over $3 million can. So now they have to pay 15 percent tax on that. In addition. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What? And it's assessed every year?

What? So who sells that?

Or who keeps that? What do they do. They have to sell it. Most likely. The average person. Or the entrepreneur. The person that is not the billionaire.

They will have to sell some of those assets, to be able to afford keeping it. To afford just staying in line. And, you know, not going to jail, because you didn't pay your taxes, to the sheriff of Nottingham.

So now you have to sell, and you have to sell at a distressed price.

Who wins?

Who wins?

Because you're forced to sell at a loss, to cover the tax bill. Guess who is standing there, ready to rake in your property?

The billionaires?

The large corporations?

The Bill Gates of the world, that wants more farmland. Hey, it's going for a song.

I can get this now!

That's who wins in this.

It destroys anybody from trying to get ahead!

It destroys them!

It is immoral.

But that's what's happening in Australia. So watch Australia burn itself to the ground!

It's going to start happening. This thing goes into effect, I think in July.

You watch.

Let's see how this works out for Australia.

Now, meanwhile, we have our own problems here. In Washington State, the Democrats who claimed they were all for adding jobs and clean energy.

Have now blocked a nuclear manufacturing plant.

Okay. Good.

If, you know, you work, you strike, it doesn't matter.

Employees now are required to pay union members not to work, if they're on strike.

And governor Ferguson signed the largest tax increase into state law with the passage of the biannual budget. Which he said, we can't -- we can't afford this.

We have to make cuts. We have to compromise. No. He just went for taxes. I mean, the election is over. Let's just go for taxes.

So what happened?

Well, they are already ranked 45 out of 50 states for business climate.

I mean, would you go work?

Would you go set up a new place in Washington State?

Would you start a business? Would you bring your business to Washington State? I wouldn't. I would get the hell out of there. In fact, I'm telling you right now, if you're in Washington State, get the hell out.

Because once they run out of all of this money that they're taxing from people, what they're going to do is say, oh, you're moving? You can't transfer that money out. You will have to pay an exit tax. And that sounds crazy. But it's going to happen. They will trap you and your money in that state.

Because they're already on that path. They already said, if there's another pandemic, they just passed a law in Washington State that says, you will have no right to your own health care. They will tell you what you have to put in your body, what you have to do. How you have to live. All they need is a medical emergency. Don't think they learned anything from COVID, other than how to control people.

So they are -- they just passed House bill 2081. It increases the Business & Occupation. The B&O tax.

This is a tax that taxes you on the gross. Okay? Which is crazy. If you're in business. You don't get that money. I'm being tax odd the gross. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

I've got things I've got to pay out of that. Tax me on what I take. No, no, no, no. Not good enough for Washington State. We will tax you on the gross.

So if you've got a business, even if your business makes a loss, because you've got bills you're paying, and it's costing you more, you're taxed on what you take in.

Not your net. So even if you lose money, you still have to pay a gross income tax.

Oh, that will work out well.

And the state has just said, it will just be passed on to the consumer. Oh, well, that's even better for the people in Washington!

They also have a new gross surcharge of .5 percent on taxpayers, with the taxable income, over 250 million, which will expire on December 31st, 2029.

Because they're just in this little place now. Don't worry. This -- all these taxes. They're going to stay like this. They're not going to get any worse.

And they will expire anyway. So don't worry about it.

Then they put a massive sales tax expansion on, adding sales tax for the first time for IT services, custom website development, custom software. Security services.

Advertising services. Now need to charge customers, sales tax on every transaction. They also vetoed the removal. The governor did, of the tax preferences for community banks. Let's not help the community panic. No. Let's -- let's help the Fed, and the banks that make up the Fed. You know, the big ones like Citi and all of those banks.

Let's help them put the little banks out.

Okay. Then there's a new gross tax on storage units of almost 2 percent. Let's see. What else?

They increased the capital gains on assets sold. Valued over a million dollars. From seven to 9 percent.

So you don't want to sell your home, better do it quickly. Larger estates, if you have something, $9 million, or up the tax rate now is going from 20 percent to 35 percent capital gains.

What has Washington done for you?

What has the state of Washington done that deserves that increase alone? I'm not talking about your property taxes.

Your state income taxes. But now they're going to take 35 percent of what you've made on your home.

Oh, okay.

Okay. Hmm. It's going to work out well for them.

Meanwhile, California, the Democrats there won't rule out new taxes to pay for health care, for undocumented immigrants.

What are you, crazy. Yes. The answer is yes.

Why do you think gold is going up in price? Why do you think Bitcoin is going up in price?

Why do you think that anything that is outside of this corrupt system is going up in price?

Because the whole world knows, this is not going to last. Now, let me take to you China. And show you what's happening in China, because they're having another problem in China, because they've been doing all these games for longer than we have.

And at which bigger scale. And it's not working there. So let me tell you what the people of China are now doing. Tell me this is not something that you could see happening all around the world.

GLENN: Okay. There's something new in China called rat people. Is it the hybrid of rats and people from the Wuhan lab?

Possibly, that could be coming too. But that is not what this is. These are people who have decided to leave the rat race. Because no matter how they work, they can't ever get ahead. And so they're saying, why would I work?

Why would I work?

They're called netizens. Rat people.

Netizens. Meaning, you're on the net. You're not really citizens. You're more just on the net. And so what are they doing? They're not socializing. They're not leaving their house. They're staying in their house.

Let me give you a blogger, who identifies as a rat person. She starts by explaining, she wakes up at 11:00 a.m. Pretends to be productive by ordering coffee and browsing her phone. Remember, China is watching your phone. At 2:00 p.m. she goes back to sleep. By 5:00 p.m. she gets up, uses the bathroom, collects the coffee delivery left on her doorstep. 6:00 p.m. she has her coffee while watching videos on her phone. 7:00 p.m. she checks her dinner options on her phone and orders takeout. 9:00 p.m. she has her first meal of the day.

One guy said, I have been a -- a rat man now, for five years. I don't socialize at all.

Hmm. This might be exactly what the World Economic Forum said would come. And they would have to, just keep these people entertained on the internet or drug them, because they will be useless eaters. Ah, that's always good. So what is happening? These are people, that basic Gen X-ers. That are like, you can't get ahead.

This is ridiculous! And so they've given up. They think, I don't want to work hard. Because it won't make any difference.

I'm getting out of the rat race. And rat people, the -- the act -- official Chinese language is that they're lying flat. And they say, they're just -- they're not going to do it. Because they can't buy. They can't buy a house.

They can't buy anything nice.

They can't buy anything.

Just, I'm giving up on all of that.

Because my life will always change. Now, China is pushing back on this. As you can imagine, the Chinese Communist Party doesn't like that, because you have a duty to the state to earn. You want to talk about useless eaters. Boy, watch what happens to these rat people. Youth day, which was May 4th. Oh, like May Day. Anyway, there was an article in the Communist Chinese people's daily.

And the -- president, President Xi told young adults, that they have to move to the countryside now, to work and support the party's version of modernization.

So you're going to move whether you like it or not.

And you'll be working. Whether you like it or not. And, you know, you owe it to the country, and to the party, to work.

So we'll make sure that you work.

Now, one person who spoke to the paper, here in America. That, you know, it's The Epic Times, that did not want to give their name. They said a whole generation of young people is babbling for limited opportunities.

Despite the fierce competition, hope is dwindling. That's why everybody chooses now to lie flat, become a rat person. Official data shows, unemployment rate for the 16 to 24-year-old age group in cities is 16.5 percent. But that doesn't include individuals who are enrolled in school, or who have stopped looking for work.

Now, listen to this part: Graduates are now securing positions within the local or state government and any public sector. Jobs are popular there, now, because they have security.

And they earned about $553 a month.

The government grows, as businesses die!

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