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Bill O'Reilly: George Washington's 'Strength of Leadership' Is Important for Americans Today

During a time when people are debating which parts of the U.S. are racist and whether or not history should be obscured, Bill O’Reilly has released a new book that examines the Revolutionary War.

“Killing England: The Brutal Struggle for American Independence” looks at history from the perspectives of George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and Great Britain’s King George III. On radio Friday, Glenn and O’Reilly talked about the new book and the life of America’s first president.

Washington’s men appeared to witness miracles on the battlefield when their leader had narrow brushes with death and survived over and over.

“The men begin to look at him as absolutely invincible,” Glenn said. Continental soldiers saw his miraculous escapes as God’s intervention protecting him. “He’s having horses shot out from underneath him, but he lives,” Glenn described their accounts.

O’Reilly pointed to Washington’s strength of character as a motivation for sharing this story and making sure Americans are aware of our history.

“Washington was an amazingly brave man,” he said. “The strength of leadership is what I think Americans need to know about.”

Glenn added that it’s vital to look at all of history – and not gloss over the negative parts.

“I want to know the bad and the good,” he said.

GLENN: Bill O'Reilly has a lot to say. But so do I.

And one of the things I want to talk to him about is his new book out called killing England. The brutal struggle for American independence. I have not read much of it. But I have skipped around in it. And it is -- it's an easy read. It's a really good read. And I know a lot about the American Revolution and George Washington. As you know, I wrote a book on George Washington.

This is fantastic. And just -- just tremendous. And it's available now. Killing England, by Bill O'Reilly. We talk to him, right now.

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GLENN: Now, here's the great thing about America: Bill O'Reilly and I can have fundamental disagreements on things -- and we do. We have a different look at things, a different approach on things, and a very different viewpoint on things. But we are friends. We get along because we both know that what we both want in the end is a strong America and a -- a country that can come together again on some basic principles. So as I say this now, I bring on the Antichrist himself, Bill O'Reilly. Hello, Bill, how are you?

BILL: I'm weeping. I'm weeping after that introduction, sitting here in my short pants, and I'm weeping.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

BILL: I have to correct you though, one thing, Killing England will be released to the marketplace on September 19th. Of course, I sent you an advanced copy. But you can order -- preorder on Amazon and BillO'Reilly.com.

GLENN: Oh. That's really good.

BILL: And I was lucky. And I'm glad you referenced your George Washington book as well. I have that in my house. I'm going to reread it now. I had read it a long time ago.

But I was lucky because this whole statue thing, which is much bigger than statues -- much bigger than statues. And I hope we're going to talk about that today.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. Yes.

BILL: That ties into Killing England because you're going to know exactly who George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Ben Franklin were as men and how they conducted themselves throughout their lives. And then you can determine whether statues of them should be pulled down, all right? Because they are coming for Washington and Jefferson.

GLENN: I know they are.

BILL: Here in New York City, as you know, Christopher Columbus -- Peter Stevenson is the latest. They're running wild. They, the far left. And I mean wild.

So there we go. There's my opening remark --

GLENN: So let's start here on the -- let's start on the statues. Because you're exactly right. This is not about -- this is not about oppression and pain, that these statues are calling.

If you want to have a real discussion about the Confederacy and what that was really all about and whether, you know, Bedford -- what's his name? Nathan Bedford Forrest is a guy that we should have a statue on, we can have that discussion. The answer is no. But we should have that discussion on who this -- this guy was and who others were.

BILL: Absolutely.

GLENN: But this is really about taking and tearing down the entire American story and discrediting the entire American story.

BILL: It's even more than that. This is about naked power. Naked power.

So you're seeing now the rise of the far left. You know, you can call it the alt-left. Whatever you want to call it. Antifa. You're seeing them rise up because the media will not challenge anything they do. So we now know that there are college professors, the latest is the guy in Clemson, in South Carolina, who is calling for violence. Violence. Overthrow the country. And if you have to burn down stores or kill cops, go ahead and do it. Why is that man still working? Why is he still working at Clemson University? Why hasn't the press made him a front-page story? This is a college professor.

So the far left, the Antifas understand they can do whatever they want now, with impunity. Because the hate Trump -- media is 100 percent focused on getting President Trump out of office, so they're going to let everything else go.

Now, as far as your point is concerned, the far left hates the country. Yes, we have to start there. They think America is exploitative. It's white supremacy. It's abused minorities, ever since its inception. And it has to be torn down. The whole thing has to go, almost like Czarist Russia and the Soviet Union. Everything has to go. All right?

Well, the first thing that has to go is any remnants of what happened to this country and how it evolved into what it is. And that means history. History has got to be revised, okay?

So we'll revise it in public schools. We're already doing that. And now we'll tear down all the statues and demonize people with whom we disagree. So we're going to demonize Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, you know, historical figures that fought for the Confederacy. That's our starting point.

But then we'll go get Columbus. And after we get Columbus, we'll get Jefferson. Jefferson was a slaveholder. And then Washington.

GLENN: Okay. So help me -- help me separate the Confederacy. Because I personally -- I don't believe that the Confederate flag is anything, but a racist symbol. I'm sorry. I know a lot of people don't agree with that because they have been talked into, that's their heritage.

But if you read the Confederate constitution, it was not state's rights. You had no right to join the Confederacy if you wanted to abolish slavery. You needed to expand slavery. So it wasn't about the defense of our US Constitution. It was about a new constitution and defending slavery. That's historic fact.

Now, with that being said, I am bothered -- I understand because, you know, people have to justify in their own head, you know, were my people years ago bad people, good people, where do I come from? That screws with people. And so they do want to look at it as their heritage. And so they have glossed over a lot of things.

But I have a -- I don't have a problem teaching these guys in proper context. I don't have a problem looking at them as all as individuals. But all of them were traitors to the US Constitution. And all of them in the end were -- whether they wanted to admit it or not -- fighting for the evils of slavery. Agree or disagree?

BILL: I agree on the hierarchy level, the Jefferson Davis level. Okay? But I don't agree on the troops on the ground level.

So let me give you a little -- quickly, a little perspective: About 10 percent of Southerners owned slaves or were trapping slaves, and a lot of them had one or two. Okay?

GLENN: Uh-huh.

BILL: So 90 percent of the South didn't have slaves.

GLENN: Correct.

BILL: In the Civil War, the guys who were fighting on the side of the Confederacy were mainly between the ages of 15 and 22.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

BILL: Many were illiterate. They really didn't know much. And they rallied to a cause that said, "You have to defend Virginia. You have to defend South Carolina. You have to defend Alabama." That's what the rallying cry was.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: So you give them a pass? Yeah.

GLENN: So hang on. I'll agree with you on that. I'll give you that.

BILL: Right.

GLENN: This is the kind of discussion, by the way, America should be having.

I will agree with you on that, that the average person didn't know, didn't buy into it.

BILL: No.

GLENN: It is the difference that we made between talking about Germans and Nazis. We were not against the Germans, we were against the Nazis.

BILL: That's right. And German soldiers were not prosecuted after World War II.

GLENN: Correct.

BILL: So then --

GLENN: Hang on just a second. Those who were directly involved and knew what was going on, they were prosecuted. But if you didn't know what was going on, you were not part of the atrocities. You weren't -- you weren't held responsible for those atrocities.

However, Germans were very clear themselves: We do not appreciate you holding up the Nazi flag and saying, "Well, yeah, but my family -- they didn't fight for the death of all the Jews." That's a no-go zone. We don't glorify --

BILL: Right. And, in fact, it's outlawed -- any Nazi symbols are against the law in Germany.

GLENN: Correct. And I don't agree with that here.

But we don't need to glorify that movement.

BILL: That's a good word, "glorify." I think that's key. So people who are running around saying that, oh, it was the war of Northern aggression. And we were, you know, unfairly treated. That's just crazy. In fact, Abraham Lincoln was really responsible for all of this. Because Lincoln basically said, "Look, war is over. I'm not going to have war crimes trials. I'm not going to hang Lee and all the generals. I'm not even going to do anything to Jefferson Davis. Okay? Except, you know, make him a pariah."

All right. So Lincoln, he was the guy that said, if we want to have a country, all right? We're going to have to have reconciliation. All right? And reconstruction.

Now, he was assassinated by Booth, who was a fanatical Confederate. And then Johnson came in and didn't know what he was doing.

And the whole thing deteriorated for decades into strife. However, right now, what we have to deal with is that the South and Texas and parts of the Midwest are not bad people --

GLENN: Correct.

BILL: Their descendents aren't bad people. They shouldn't be demonized.

GLENN: Correct.

BILL: Lee conducted himself after the war in a very, very honorable way. He was a West Point graduate. People should know about Robert E. Lee. His statue doesn't offend anybody.

However, the statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest in New Orleans does. He's the start -- he started the Ku Klux Klan.

GLENN: Correct.

BILL: It should be taken down.

GLENN: We can't get people in the media on the uber, uber, uber right. And I don't even go into the alt-right. I mean just up against that line of the alt-right. They're still holding up William Bedford Forrest. Or was it Nathan? I don't remember.

BILL: Nathan.

GLENN: Nathan Bedford Forrest.

They won't even admit that he was the key that unlocked the door to the Klan. That he was skinning people alive. He's a very different --

BILL: Why are you even talking about fringe groups? See, here's the difference between the alt-right and the Antifas, all right?

The media, all right? Has demonized anybody, not only far right people, but conservative people. I mean, the mantra last week was, if you voted for Trump, you're a racist. Okay?

So the media has already done that.

On the left, you can be Josef Stalin's first cousin --

GLENN: Correct.

BILL: -- and be going for the overthrow of this government and the media is not going to do anything to you.

Now, American people, they don't want extremism in any way, shape, or form. They reject both groups. All right? And both groups' numbers are very, very low.

GLENN: Yep.

BILL: I said on the BillO'Reilly.com podcast, I've been in this business 42 years. Beck's been in about 65. I've been in every city, every country, I've never met a white supremacist, other than covering that kind of stuff. But never. Never.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. Yes.

BILL: I don't know any. I've never seen any. So where are they if they're taking over the world? I mean, it's just insane.

GLENN: All right. Back with Bill O'Reilly. From BillO'Reilly.com. You can hear his take on the news every day on his No Spin News podcast. He's doing some really exciting things. And I do want to talk to him about Killing England which comes out in a couple of weeks. And I've just -- I've read only a few chapters, kind of skipping around. And it's really, really well written.

Bill O'Reilly, Killing England. And his podcast at BillO'Reilly.com.

RADIO

Will Trump HIT Iran with a “bunker buster” bomb?

Will President Trump get America involved in Israel’s war with Iran by helping drop a “bunker buster” bomb on Iran’s main nuclear facility? Would that cross a red line? Glenn Beck asks House Foreign Affairs Committee member, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, who explains why she believes such debates are pointless right now. Plus, Rep. Luna addresses a 1980s CIA "playbook" that exposes a strategy to "set off riots and destabilize governments."

Transcript

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GLENN: Representative Anna Paulina Luna is joining us now.

Congresswoman from the great state of Florida. You guys are kicking it, down in Florida.

I mean, you really -- you're making Texas look bad, quite honestly. But thanks for coming on.

ANNA: Thanks, Glenn. I would like to say, we're leading the nation not just in politics, but also the White House. So happy to be here.

GLENN: Yeah. All right. I have to ask you a little bit, about are we going to war? What's happening? Is this negotiation? What does your gut tell you on this?

ANNA: My gut is telling me, that we're not intervening. And based on the president's statement, he is still rightfully so, urging everyone to negotiate. Right now, he's definitely been very open about this.

But I don't want to -- what I will tell you, in the last 24 to 48 hours, I have seen so much disinformation circulating on the internet. Well, a lot of it not coming from security that is in the states, so I will tell everyone. That don't jump to conclusions, don't read into anything, that senator Lindsey Graham is saying or any other members of Congress, that are speculating, that there will be direct intervention. In fact, the White House just yesterday via Alex Sipher on X posted that the military is not intervening. We're simply defending our own. And so what I will tell Americans is first and foremost, President Trump has not changed his position on foreign policies. If he wanted to strike, he would have done it by now. So everyone needs to pray for him. Pray for our country. Pray for the millions in both Iran and Israel right now, and let the process play out.

GLENN: Can you tell me, do you think it's a red line to send over a bomber with one bomb?

Is that -- does that drag us into war?

Or is that just helping?

ANNA: I would say, as of right now, we need to not speculate, but continue to back the White House's position.

Because I think if I were to speculate on where the red line is, I don't think it helps.

I do think that our allies and adversaries are looking to see the members of Congress are doing. I will back the White House's position currently. Which is defending our service members and not intervening --

GLENN: It is. I'm so glad to hear you say that. That is exactly what I just said on the air. Just about three minutes ago.

ANNA: Oh, really?

GLENN: I said, yeah. The world is watching. You don't think the mullahs aren't watching everything that is said on X. You know, we must used to have these conversations where it was global. We're now in a global atmosphere.

And they're watching all of us.

And we can't eat ourselves up. Or they will -- if he's telling the truth.

I think a good negotiator, never bluffs. And he has to back it up.

You know, 60 days. You don't want to see what happens on day 61.

He wasn't bluffing.

And if they think, that we are eating ourselves, alive, they're more likely to go, no.

You know what, go ahead. Go ahead.

It's a really bad thing.

ANNA: What I will say, it's definitely a litmus test for our country right now. You're seeing a lot of people, jumping to conclusions. What I will tell you, there's only a very select few that fully understand what's happening in the situation room.

That's the president, his team, and it's left up there to you. What I will tell you, don't read in, don't speculate. And also too don't jump to conclusions.

Again, in the last 48 hours, I went online. I put out information, because I saw so much information circulating. Something that was said by Kash Patel. His CCP has engaged in basically election engineering. We just saw that in the 2020 election cycle.

They just got busted. This also comes on the tail end of these riots that are absolutely being hunted by the CCP. Neville Singham getting lots of money from them.

And it doesn't stop there.

We saw there was an -- so what I would say is that, you know, I'm partially inclined to think some of these accounts that are attacking the president, are foreign policy positions right now.

Are coming from China. Everything that we're seeing. Three times, that they've done things.

So we have to stick together. It's not, Democrat versus Republican right now. It's America, and fighting for Western civilization.

And so we need to make sure that we're very responsible about our commentary right now.

GLENN: Very good. Very good.

Can we talk a little bit about the -- let's start with Neville Singham.

The guy is -- he is an operative for the CCP. And he is pouring tons of money. And no one in the mainstream media, wants to talk about it.

They just -- oh, that's ridiculous. No, it's not.

Can you give us some information on --

ANNA: Yeah. Of course. So it's not ridiculous. In fact, there's a lot of money -- money at least back to Neville Singham. And I actually look at credit where it's due. So I was on X. And came across this account called Data Republican, and she actually pulled the money trail right to Singham. He also lives part time in Shanghai, China, and he's not registered as a foreign agent.

And so I was able to talk to Comer, and every single member of oversight after seeing the evidence that was presented, actually sent a letter, signed off on it, not just to Neville Singham, but also, to AG Bondi to also request an investigation.

And so what I will tell you is that this should have been done during BLM in Congress back then.

It was not. This needs to be replicated moving forward with everybody else who is engaging, who is not a registered foreign agent in this country.

Also, funding riots like this. In some instances have been acts of terrorism.

And so right now, it's not just a playbook for Neville Singham. We're also -- this is also up to Comer. Because Comer has subpoena authority. Whether or not he will send his subpoena to George Soros, which I've urged him to do.

Even though, Neville Singham is a Marxist and Soros is a globalist, but their end objective is, again, to dismantle the United States.

And so we're basically being hit from both sides right now.

GLENN: I am so -- it is so refreshing.

I mean, I've been talking about this stuff for 20 years.

It's so refreshing. Finally, to have some people step up, and present this in a credible way, in Congress.

And to the -- attorney general et cetera, et cetera.

You know, you had the playbook from 1983. From the CIA.

And this is -- you know, I think it was two or three years ago.

No. It was in 2019 or 2020.

I did a special on the -- you know, the Colour Revolutions.

And how there was the CIA playbook that was out.

And it looks exactly like what is happening here in the United States. I said -- I said, at the time, here's what's coming. And it's all here.

It -- where are you taking this?

And is there anybody, that, you know, can -- can stop this?

Because this -- we are -- we're using CIA tactics on ourself.

ANNA: Well, I would say, the CCP is using this against us.

Right now, just first and foremost.

Yes. We can stop it.

We have to go after the money stream. And I actually also found out via the data Republican.

That $270 million in the USAID fund, was issued to George Soros' NGOs prior to Biden getting out of office.

President Trump can stop that, sending a letter via executive order because Congress is moving very slow.

That's I think a separate conversation.

But we can stop the money streams. And if we don't do anything, though. If we don't do the investigations.

If we don't say, you cannot do this in our country, you're also, by the way, guilty of violating foreign agent registration, the Foreign Registration app, the FAR app. It's just going to continue happening.

So we have to do the due diligence on this.

And if not, every single member of oversight signed off on that.

And to Chairman Comer's credit, he will be playing ball with Singham. So it's going to happen.
It's just, When will it happen?

So the time line, it's possibly indicated on Friday. We're waiting for a response.

He's going to be called to testify.

We are looking at all transaction records.
That's the first thing. The second thing, I want to give some people hope. I actually know Director Radcliffe over at the CIA.

And the CIA back then, remember, there's both good and bad people at the intelligence agencies.

And to their credit, the people that he has appointed, actually are a people like you and I.

And so they are doing their best to weed out this corruption at the agencies. And so what's really been brilliant in all of this.

Kash Patel is also following up on these money trails, to see what outside foreign influences are engaging in this Colour Revolution here in the United States, and he's dropping that information now. So in previous administrations, this might not have happened.

But in this one, they're stopping it, and it's because of social media and kudos to Elon Musk, that we were able to get the information in time, in regards to the No Kings protest, who is funding that.
In regards to potential insider packets that were going to frame conservatives. Frame Republicans.

We are seeing this all unfold in real time. I will tell you, Hispanic Americans, specifically, are not used as pawns. So when you have basically BLM 2.0 happening right now at these ICE riots, and you realize that these are actually largely ANTIFA that are going to be questioned. They're why they're not Hispanic. They're not immigrant.

They have no ties to the communities, and they're simply interning, you know, Mexican flags or BLM flags. That doesn't bode well in the community.

Remember, Hispanic Americans are largely voted for in favor for President trump.

So there is hope. But you can't sit on your hands. You have to get active, you have to get engaged, and you have to be telling people that.

GLENN: You know, for years, I've been angry at the billionaires on the right. That have just not stepped up to the plate.

I really, I suspected with the tides foundation and then with Biden and you all of these green new deals, and everything going on. That money was being funneled off the top.

And then as soon as we appointed DOGE. I said, oh, my gosh. The money is coming from us.

Then he started to find him. That is so critically important. Are we going to stop that funding?

ANNA: Well, yes. And so that's what we've been doing with some of these rescission packages at the White House, that has authorized. We have to move quickly. And we have to be more aggressive with it.

I will tell you, remember, I think just in general, sometimes people can be lazy.

And so what I've been telling people, is you have no idea, the level of personal sacrifice, that Elon really took on.

From taking on DOGE. Especially going after USAID. Which is just like a pot of just corrupt nonsense.

He actually just released, as we were about to call in. He released drug testing results. He had himself drug testing. Because they were saying, he was doing all this crazy stuff.

And he wasn't. Right? They've attacked companies. They literally used his personal family matters in the press. And then they tried to drag a wedge between him and the president.

So what I will tell you is, it's not just him. It's any member of Congress of the Senate. You saw what happened with the president. They tried to assassinate him twice.

Okay?

So if you take this on, the American people need to back these people up.

Because it's not like we're taking it on, because we, you know, want to have our personal lives and our family members put on the line here.

It's because it's the right thing to do. And if we don't do it, who will?

You have to really make sure, everyone sitting together. Remember, look out for the disinformation campaign.

And keep supporting people who do the right went.

Because we need more of them.

GLENN: Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna.

Congresswoman, thank you.

JEFFY: Thanks Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. We'll talk again.

RADIO

The KEY to understanding Trump’s threats to Iran

Many Americans are debating whether President Trump will attack Iran and help Israel, or if he’ll keep his promise to stay out of this war. Glenn Beck explains what he believes is the key to understanding Trump’s

Transcript

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GLENN: I think America is all warred out. I know I am.

I'm all warred out. We've been the police. War's policemen since I've been a kid.

It's never helped us. It's never done anything, except push us towards bankruptcy, and more of our people killed.

You know, we've had Afghanistan. Iraq. Libya. And they ended for, what?

Nothing. Nothing.

What did we get out of that? Nothing!

Are we safer?

No. We're not safer. Look at our streets. Look what's coming across our border.

We have 8,000 terrorists, in our country, right now!

That didn't make us safer by any stretch of the imagination. What did we do that for?

We've also been lied to by our government, over and over and over again.

At least the last 100 years on this progressive nonsense, on the State Department, and how they want to fight wars now.

There hasn't been a real end of a real war, in how long?

Since World War II?

There's not -- are these all police actions. And they never -- they don't seem to work out.

I'm done with all of that. I think you are too. And we can't afford another war.

Now, that being said, I think Iran and I've said this since 2003, Iran is the head of the snake.

It wasn't Afghanistan.

It wasn't Iraq. You know, I thought the strategy from Bush was to take Afghanistan and Iraq and squeeze forever the government of Rand Paul.

Enough to have it topple and let the people take over, in Iran.

But that didn't -- I don't think that was even their strategy. I think that was me maybe hoping.

You know, and all the talk about the nukes in Iran, I have a hard tame. You know, weapons of mass destruction. George Bush. They weren't there.

They weren't there.

So now they have -- I mean, I've heard since, what?

Now. 2005.

Iran could be just days away from a nuclear weapon. Then once they have one, then they could produce all the -- I don't know. I've heard this since 2005. You have no credibility with me anymore, that they're just days away from a nuclear weapon!

Now, are they days away? Maybe!

I don't know.

So what do we do?

Well, I'm pretty happy with the current course.

Israel seems to be doing a bang up job.

You know, and have you noticed, it's not really causing any more problems in the streets.

In Saudi Arabia, or Egypt. Or any other place.

They all seem to be cool with what's going on.

And why is that? Because everyone in the Middle East knows this is right. What is Egypt doing? First of all, maybe we should be a little more like Egypt, you know, without the authoritarian regime. Maybe we should look at our borders the way Egypt looks at its border with the Palestinians!

You know, there's a two-story wall, all just -- I mean, it is razor wire everywhere.

Nobody is coming across that border, coming out of -- of -- of the Palestinian section, into Egypt.

They don't want them.

Strangely, neither does Jordan. Strangely, neither does the UAE. Strangely, neither does Saudi Arabia, or any other Gulf culture. They don't want them. Why?

Because revolution always follows.

Thus, let me again, bring you back to Egypt. What happened over the weekend.

All these Palestinian protesters. The kinds that are on our streets.

The Palestinians just -- I mean, the Egyptians just picked them up.

Put them on a bus. And said, get hell out of here. Or we'll throw you in jail.

We can't protest peaceful. No. Not in Egypt.

It's not America.

You're not doing that in Egypt. And one of the reasons why you're not doing that in Egypt. Egypt knows, the Palestinians, no matter where they go. They sew the he seeds of revolution.

That's been the pattern over and over and over again, when one of the Gulf states take them.

So why is that a problem for Donald Trump to do exactly what the Egyptians and the Saudis and the UAE, and everybody else is doing. Which is, hey, Israel, keep going!

I mean, I'm not going to say that out loud. But keep going.

Can we help you with anything on that one? Because don't turn around on us. We will deny it.

But go ahead. They're all doing that!

All of them! What is the other thing they're doing? They're not siding with the Palestinians. They're not letting the Palestinian, you know, revolution break out in their countries.

So why is it such a problem in our country? To do what they're doing!

Which leads me to believe, maybe, just maybe, there's a lot of anti-Semitism on this one.

I've never seen a country exercise a war this precisely as the one that Israel is doing. I mean, it's unbelievable.

It's unbelievable.

Okay. So now, let me take to you the third part of what I want you to really think about.

Are we actually preparing for war?

Because every sign says yes. And maybe we are. I don't know.

Every sign says yes. We are mobilizing.

We are moving assets in. Yesterday, I think it was the Israelis said, everybody needs to get out of Tehran. That looks like massive bombing coming there. That doesn't seem like Israel. Does it?

We're talking about maybe using one of our B52s. And the only bomb that can get into the plant, to be able to get under the mountain to take out their nuclear facilities.

We're the only ones that can do it, and we're talking about doing that. However, at the same time, Donald Trump said, no, to killing the leaders of Iran. Which were the leaders that put the plan in place for the assassination of Donald Trump.

So it doesn't seem like he's being vindictive here.

What is actually happening?

How do you make sense of the world?

May I just suggest, what do you know about Donald Trump?

What do you know at the core of his being, who he is?

You know that he is a pro-tariff guy.

You know that he hates war.

To the core.

You know that he's terrified of nuclear war.

And he's a negotiator. I don't think that's in the right order.

I think he's a negotiator first. And when you negotiate at this high level, you don't tell everyone what you're doing.

First of all, the first thing you have to do is establish credibility.

And especially in a country like Iran, where the American president has never had any credibility.

Because they say, you know what, you cross this red line. And you're done. Then they cross the red line. And they're like, okay. Well, don't cross this red line or you're done.

Then they cross that red line, and nothing happens! Okay. Well, don't cross it. Shut up with your red line. It means nothing to us anymore.

What did Donald Trump do?

He gave Iran 60 days to negotiate. Sixty days.

What happened at midnight on Day 61?

Israel unleashed hell on them.

Donald Trump said, you have 60 days. And please, get to the negotiating table. You don't want to see what happens on Day 61.

Don't do it. Don't. Don't.

I'm holding them at bay. Don't. Let's negotiate. Okay? Now he has credibility.

So now when they're talking about, you know what, what we might do. He will say, yeah. Well, I'm talked to Israel, about letting them use that bunker buster.

You know, I also think you're a really dangerous knight right now. I think, you know, put us on a war footing, would you?

Now the American people are looking at Donald Trump going, he just might do it. Are we going to war? He just might do it.

What do you think Iran is saying? Iran is saying the same thing! Oh, good God. He just told us 60 days.

He's not bluffing. He's not bluffing.

The guy does not bluff. He's nuts. He's insane.

Whatever you want to say about him. He's a negotiator. And the one thing that Iran really does not understand, I think is negotiating from the best negotiator in the world.

But I am afraid the American people don't understand that either.

Now, I could be wrong. So I'm not saying this is what's going on.

But I believe this is what's happening.

I believe he's negotiating.

And, you know, he will follow it up.

But what did he say?

As soon as the bombs went out. He said, I told them, 60 days. A, establish credibility.

Then the next statement was, please come back to the table. Or it's only going to get worse.

Okay?

Then while the whole world is watching the G7, something happens, and he flies back. He leaves the G7. And he flies back, at 3:00 a.m. He arrives, and he goes directly in to the situation room, and they're moving assets around the world.

And then says, hey. Iran, you should negotiate. You should negotiate.

We're still at the negotiation table. I would suggest you get back.

How freaked out do you think they are?

Now, here's the thing. Have you ever been in tough negotiations with somebody, and they start to say things. And you're like, wait. This wasn't part of the plan.

We didn't discuss this.

But they're the leader. What should you do? If you're in negotiations, you should be going, yeah.

Yeah. We talk about that. You know, all day long. You go out in a hallway. Or you go into another room, and you go, what are you doing?

What are you doing?

We didn't talk about this. But you never say it at the table. Never.

Because if they spot any division, that game is over. So what's happening online?

Right now, we're dividing ourselves. I think the president is negotiating. I -- I know the president hates war. I know the president hates nuclear war.

I know the president likes Israel, but he's not wanting to fight their wars.

I know the president knows how much trouble we're in, with Islamic extremism, especially the kind that comes from the Twelvers in Iran!

If I know all of those things to be true, he's negotiating. And he's hoping that Israel will do the job we won't have to.

But we can back them up by being tough negotiators. And saying, you know what, go ahead. Put us on a war footing.

Because then, their side is at the table going, what the hell, is this guy -- and somebody at the table is going, he told us 60 days. In sixty days, we were having bombs raining down on us.

He will do it!

But there's also somebody at the table that said, eh, just lost Tucker Carlson. That guy helped him get elected. Eh, just lost, you know, whoever, Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and Glenn Beck.

And they're all fighting against each other. He's not going to be able to hold his base together.

If he's -- if he's bluffing, fine. If he's not bluffing, it won't be long, because they'll tear him apart.

Now, how does that -- because you, and me, and Tucker, and Sean. And, I mean, it used to be just the big anchors, on CBS. ABC. NBC.

Now it's not just even us. It's you!

They're watching us, as we're sitting at the table. We're blinking.

Repeatedly. I -- I don't know what -- I don't know.

I have no inside information.

I just think, I know Donald Trump, and what he abhors. I know Donald Trump on what he is terrified of.

And that is nuclear war. And global war.

He knows that will be the end of us. All of us. I just don't see him as that guy.

And so I have to ask, is the world's best negotiator, now negotiating? And I believe the answer is yes. For the first time, you have a president that is a good negotiator.

Stop blinking. That doesn't mean I'm for war. It just means, stop blinking!

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