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RADIOJune 12, 2023

BEWARE: AI is learning to MANIPULATE YOU just like humans can

When many Americans think of artificial intelligence, they think of devices like Siri or Alexa. But that’s so 2010, Glenn explains. In fact, AI is FAR beyond those capabilities, and it’s learning more skills each day — some of which truly are terrifying to imagine. In this clip, Glenn recaps a recent conversation he had with Tristan Harris, a former design ethicist at Google. Glenn explains that we’re now in ‘second contact’ with A.I., and how A.I. is learning to MANIPULATE us just like fellow humans can…

Transcript

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GLENN: So Tristan Harris is -- is a -- is an ethicist.

And he has done a -- a YouTube video, that came out, I think about a month ago.

And it is -- it's quite shocking.

We will tweet it out later. You really need to watch it.

And then I watched that video, and got him on to the podcast. And we spent an hour last night. And he's going to be on with me again next week.

He is warning that we are now what he calls second contact. First contact was social media.

And social media, its goal, not stated to you. But the goal of social media to you, is so you could connect and share with people. And -- and your life would be easier. And you could connect with your family. That's not what the goal was of the companies. The goal of the companies was, engagement. Find ways to keep people engaged. And it has led to really, addiction. To social media.

It has led to all of these problems. The divisions in our countries are -- in our country is zootype right now. Much of it because of social media.

It has -- it has learned that if you keep people angry, they engage longer.

So he says, all of the child sexualization. Everything that is going on right now, in our society.

Stems from social media. When he quit Google and said, you guys aren't paying attention here. He's an ethicist.

And he said, you won't even listen to the ethics. And the question of ethics. What do you mean, you want to -- you want them to engage longer, and so you know what you're doing, with the dopamine. You know what you're doing.

You're creating an actual addiction, in people. This is unethical.

And he left.

To warn. Now he says, we are at second contact with AI.

And it is so important that you understand, when we're talking about AI. Most people think of Siri.

That's not AI. Okay? That's AI2010.

And the only thing that that does is try to interpret. And it makes very slow gains. Okay?

In 2017 or '18, there was an entirely new engine released.

And it was only in the laboratories of Google and everything else.

It's not hit Siri. Okay?

And it's an entirely new engine. And it is the difference between a Model T and a jet engine.

And this particular jet engine works 247, trying to make itself more powerful. He describes this as the atomic bomb.

In everyone's hand. And an atomic bomb, that does what atomic bombs don't do.

Makes itself more powerful every day. It is on double exponential growth.

I told you two weeks ago, about this YouTube video that I saw with him. And I told you at the time, that it was -- and this was not programming. This just happened.

And they only found out go, like two months ago.

By mistake. They had no idea it was developing this.

It's developing a human trait, that adults have and kids have on reasoning. And in the beginning of the year, it was at like a 2-year-old. Then halfway, you know, six months later. It was at a 6-year-old.

And when I told you go a couple weeks ago. It was a 9-year-old.

And the 9-year-old reasoning is this. When you tell your -- when it -- when it's trying to get information, think of your 9-year-old. Trying to get its own way.

It -- your child deals with you. Because it knows you.

And it's like, you know what, I can play mom and dad this way. If they say this, I'll say that. And I can get what I want. Okay?

It had the reasoning of a 9-year-old. And you're the adult.

So it could manipulate you, like a 9-year-old. And it could get its own way.

I told him, I said, on the podcast. I said, tell that story of what that really means.

I said, because a 9-year-old is scary.

And he said, oh, Glenn, that -- that's -- you got that from the YouTube thing.

And I said, yeah. And he said, oh, that's so yesterday.

He said, it's now in its 20s. So it is growing in knowledge, at exponential rates. When you have social media, it was engagement. AI, its stated goal is intimacy. That it becomes intimate with you.

And it creates something that you will bond with, and never, ever leave.

And it is -- remember, it manipulates. So he lays out all of the problems with this.

And he -- it was nice to talk to somebody, that knows so much more about it, than I do. But is not living in La La Land.

I asked him about AI. Which is artificial intelligence. And that's very, very narrow. On one thing.

Like Siri.

Can't do anything, except answer your question on what it can find either on your cloud, or on the web.

It can't really do anything. That's AI. That's what we've had.

AGI is artificial general intelligence. General intelligence is what you are. You are a general intelligence being.

You can be an expert on many things. You can know a little bit about a lot of things. You can be really good at more than one thing.

You have general intelligence. And you can expand that, the more you learn. The more you read. The more you do.

The more general you become. And the more of an expert on any and everything in your life. Okay?

But it requires you to do the work. Well, that's what AGI is. AGI is general intelligence. And it has to do the work.

Well, it is doing the work. It's teaching -- it's just taught itself chemistry, without being asked.

It taught itself Farsi, without anyone knowing about it.

It is teaching itself the most complex math, that people -- experts said, it may never ever be able to do this. Solve these equations. By the way, quantum computing.

It will not be able to solve these for years. It is now solving those.

Because it is learning. It is teaching itself, all of the time.

I asked him, how far away are we?

And I almost asked him, if you even believe in it. Because I've been talking about AGI and ASI super intelligence.

Stu, 25 years.

STU: As long as I've known you.

GLENN: Right. I absolutely believe. Ray Kurzweil believes in it.

But Ray Kurzweil is always getting hammered, because he believes that it will be here by 2030. AGI.

Okay. And that changes everything. That's when it will outmaneuver all of us.

He says, that's 2030.

Others have been saying, it will never happen. The general consensus has been that it would happen AGI. And possibly ASI. If that's even possible, they said.

By maybe 2050. Tristan, I said, how far away are we?

And he said, I think we're probably two and a half years, maybe outside five.

That's the general consensus now.

The general consensus?

The general consensus was, not sure it could even ever happen. He is -- you will -- when you watch him, you will see how sincere he is.

He and his colleagues are trying their best, to get a pause on this. This is not -- this is not ideal, okay?

You can say, well, China will continue to do whatever.

But what he's saying is, we have 12 to maximum 18 months.

If we do not pause this, in the next 12 months. He believes it could be the end or will eventually be the end of humanity.

Not in the way Ray Kurzweil predicted.

I've told you before, trans humanism is coming.

And transhumanism, if you're a Star Trek fan, think of the Borg.

The transhumanism is when we start to augment ourself, and put ourself in line with the internet and artificial intelligence. And we become one with it. It's the singularity.

That's why when Stephen Hawking was tying. His last prediction was, the end of the homo sapien, by 20 activity. There will be no homo sapiens. Because of transhumanism.

I talked to Tristan about this. Transhumanism. And how evil and dangerous it really is.

And he is not predicting the end of homo sapiens. Because of transhumanism.

He is saying, we do not make it as a species. And it may include all life on earth, if this needs more food, more energy.

Because it will just continue to grow. At the expense of whatever.

It is ruthless.

What just passed in California is coming for ALL KIDS across the nation

Parental rights are under attack like never before. Take California, which just passed a bill that would FORCE judges in child custody hearings to consider whether a parent supports a kid's "gender transition" — which is probably the most life-altering and permanent thing they can do to themselves. But what just passed in California is coming for ALL KIDS across the nation. Glenn discusses how the White House is also pushing the agenda of "affirming your child's identity," in the name of health and safety, of course. He also reviews how California's extreme progressive laws are often picked up by other states and how similar policies in Canada have led to the jailing of parents. "This new law should alarm and disgust EVERYONE in America for the way it will let the state override private parenting decisions," Glenn says. It's time to ask, who gets to raise children – you or the government?

Did the CIA BRIBE experts to dismiss COVID lab leak theory?

It's been nearly 4 years since the COVID-19 pandemic broke out and we still don't have a consensus on where it came from. But recently, a whistleblower has claimed to Congress that the CIA bribed experts to suggest that COVID-19 didn't come from a lab. Rep. Brad Wenstrup, who chairs one of the subcommittees the whistleblower has spoken to, joins Glenn with the latest. According to the whistleblower, 6 of the 7 people on the CIA's COVID discovery team believed the virus came from a lab, but the CIA only said it was "unable to determine" the truth. And allegedly, there were "performance bonuses" attached to their findings. Did the CIA bribe experts to remain silent? Is the government trying to steer the narrative in one direction for political reasons? What does that mean about the trustworthiness of our intelligence agencies?

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GLENN: Congressman Wenstrup, how are you, sir?

WENSTRUP: I'm hanging in there. How are you, Glenn?

GLENN: I'm good. First of all, I want to let people know. You are a doctor. You're also an Army Reserve officer, and Iraqi war veteran. Thank you for that.

You were on the select subcommittee run by this pandemic. You have served as a doctor. You know, overseas. You also were at Walter Reed for a while.

And you are the medical policy adviser for the chief of Army Reserve. Correct?

WENSTRUP: Yes, actually retired from the Army in December.

But since I was elected to Congress, 11 years ago, I served at Walter Reed and as a medical policy adviser as well.

Obviously as a congressman.

And a congressman on the intelligence committee.

GLENN: Okay. So now, tell the story to the American people, in case they don't know. About what is going on, with the CIA. And this bribe, to the so-called experts.

WENSTRUP: Yeah. A little background. As a physician, ever since the pandemic started. I'm looking into what's going on, physiologically, how do we treat patients?

In the process of doing research, we discovered that we were actually engaging in China, in the lab in Wuhan, to create gain-of-function viruses.

That being said, with Intel committee, involved with this for the past three years, at least.

And what had happened now, is we have somebody coming forward, as the whistle-blower, seeking full whistle-blower protection.

And at this time, he wants to be anonymous. He came to both the intelligence committee, and the select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, which I chair.

And he's made many allegations. Obviously, he summed up a lot of them. But there was the CIA, in trying to figure out, whether this came from a lab. Or from nature. Put together, a COVID discovery team, if you will.

Seven people, as you talked about.

So six of the people, they came to the conclusion with some level of confidence. That this came from a lab. And the senior person, according to these charges, said, it came from nature. Okay. Well, you're entitled to your opinion. What they ended up doing at the end of the day, releasing to the public and to the intelligence community. All they said was, the CIA was unable to determine.

Well, it sounds like they had a pretty high number of people, that were able to determine, as best as they know it. It is our responsibility, on this committee, to follow up on everything to do with the -- with the pandemic.

We take it very seriously. The reaction of the CIA, very serious.

So we're now seeking documents. Communications.

And we also have asked to speak with Andrew McCreedus (phonetic), who the whistle-blower says was the chief operating officer, and had a lot to do with constructing this.

I hope the director of the CIA will be cooperative with us.

But, you know, you hit the big question.

Why? I mean, why would they want to do that?

I mean, this goes back to where Fauci prompted. I'm using their words. Prompted a group of scientists to write what's called proximal origins.

Where in their internal documents, they're saying, oh, yeah. Well, they're doing research. Oh, yeah. They have this capability.

Oh, yeah. This really is something. And then they come out and say, it came from nature. And tried to make that definitive. Why are we not having scientific debate? What is the reason for attempting to steer everything in one direction? And here's one of my concerns, Glenn. And I think you will appreciate this. If this is true, and we have for political reasons. Or whatever.

Changing the -- the notion of changing intelligence. What does that say to our international partners, who rely on us, for intelligence?

Who we work with? Together on intelligence.

If our own intelligence department, is changing things from what people actually did and said. To fit a narrative that they want?

That's a concern I have.

GLENN: Well, not just that.

You know, you would imagine that in some cases, you would say, hey, let's not release that to anybody.

But this is changing things for the intelligence.

The oversight. You guys are -- you guys are engaged with oversight. And they didn't tell you this. A whistle-blower had to come and tell you this.

WENSTRUP: Right. And I would contend if we didn't have Republicans, in terms of the House of Representatives, it would come forward at all. To get an opportunity to somebody, that would seem like would listen. And is a whistle-blower.

And we are. And so we're pursuing this based on letters.

That's the first phase, requesting information. Documents.

You know, when we don't get them. And we dig a little bit deeper.

And we ask a little harder. And sometimes in the form of subpoenas.

GLENN: So they -- do we know if they actually paid these other experts?

These six people out of seven?

WENSTRUP: Yeah. So in the allegations, I would say that the conjecture, is that it may have come in the form of a performance bonus.
Not just out and out, hey, do this, and here's some money, if you are following that. Something to that effect. Right?

GLENN: Right. And do we have any idea how much? This is taxpayer dollars, right?

WENSTRUP: Oh, correct. And, no. We don't know how much. And, again, that's part of the investigation. We're obligated to do it. I mean, we don't really have a choice. This is what we should be doing. You know, keep in mind, I have to remember members of Congress this too. Congress created these agencies. And we fund those agencies. And we have oversight of those agencies. And not only do I have to remind members of Congress. We certainly have to remind the agencies, that this needs to be a working partnership. And you don't get to tell us anything. Especially on the intelligence committee. The intelligence committee is set up, so that there would be oversight over the intelligence committee.

GLENN: Correct.

WENSTRUP: And this is a select committee, so the people on this committee, which, by the way, is functioning well now, and is no longer an impeachment committee, but the intelligence committee, people are selected from both sides of the aisle. We also represent the other members of Congress. Because we're in a place where other members don't get to go. So this is an important role that we have. And the cooperation needs to be there. And sometimes, the community -- the intelligence community, thinks they don't have to tell us things. In the same statute that they do. So we will continue to pursue and find the truth. And we have -- we have to suggest or legislate things into law.

It allows us to hold people accountable, within agencies, when they do things.

And I use an example like this, Glenn. The military just served 25 years.

Uniform Code of Military Justice. Unethical is unlawful in the military.

And our agencies, unfortunately, this is across-the-board.

But in our agencies, if you violate some of your tenets, or what you say, or the rules of engagement within your agency, nothing really happens to you.

Oh, you might get fired.

But, you know, there -- this is -- this is a problem, that we have.

And so we are trying, on so many fronts, to put punitive measures in place when violations are occurring.

Such as, with the FISA court. Et cetera.

You know, the IG said 17 times.

Well, what actually happens? Where is the punitive measures? We're trying to implement those.

GLENN: Yeah. So do you -- is there a way out from -- I mean, your Justice Department looks horribly soiled. Your NSA. Your CIA. Your DNI.

All of these things, look like they've been a part of some really bad things, including the State Department. Now the IRS is involved. How are you possibly going to beat this?

I mean, it's like Whac-A-Mole.

WENSTRUP: Yeah. On my particular subcommittee. What I keep saying.

From the beginning. Is honesty and truth is non-negotiable. And we're going to be looking for it.

And if it's not there. We're going to point it out. And hold people accountable.

We have to.

GLENN: But you can't -- excuse me for interrupting.

But you can't really hold people responsible, if you say if they're in contempt for Congress.

Attorney general Garland. Is the one who has to prosecute. And he just came out and said, I'm not the prosecutor, for Congress.

Well, yes, you are.

But he gets to decide, who he prosecutes.

WENSTRUP: Yeah. And obviously what you're seeing, I know I heard Jim Jordan's voice when I came. And obviously you're seeing all kinds of things, where this is just wrong.

And I don't know how we get it all out from the American public. Most people don't know.

Obviously, I have the opportunity right now. To get to your listeners.

And that's important.

But there are things, that are going on today, that should be above the full front page headlines.

Each and every day.

And the mainstream media comes to our challenges, is definitely greater.

And elections matter.

And I hope people understand that. I grow up watching Superman. The beginning show.

Watching for truth, justice, and the American way. And then that's where we have to go.

And Americans have to understand, if that's what they want, or not. Because it's been deviated from, tremendously.

And let me make this suggestion too for our agencies. You know, in the military, you either move up, or you're out.

And you're required to be agnostic politically. And that's what we need in our agencies.

You either move up or you're out.

And when you get to the top, there's a mandatory retirement. You don't get to sit there with mounds of authority. And covert authority, if you will. And we have to make changes like that, within our system.

We started our country, with just three agencies. State Treasury and War.

Look what we have now. They have rule of law. They put out regulations.

We try to get laws to stop them.

It's completely backwards.

So Americans need to understand. To elect people that are willing to make that change, and get us back to the government, that you are Founders set up.

STU: Representative Brad Wenstrup. Thank you very much for what you're doing.

Please keep us informed, if there's any other news that starts to break here about the CIA apparently bribing members of the team.

The experts on COVID. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

WENSTRUP: Yeah. Thank you so much.

GLENN: You bet.

Did Soros 'Republicans' make it ILLEGAL for Texas AG Ken Paxton to prosecute voter fraud?!

In his interview with Tucker Carlson, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton mentioned how the Texas Court of Appeals (which is 100% "Republican") recently made it illegal for him to prosecute voter fraud. Paxton joins Glenn to elaborate on this ridiculous ruling and why he believes it's (of course) all tied to George Soros. Plus, Paxton pushes back against the Wall Street Journal's take on why he was acquitted in his impeachment trial and reveals whether Texas will finally start acting like Texas again after the Biden administration cut razor wire at the southern border, allowing thousands of illegal immigrants could cross over.

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GLENN: Last night, the fed -- because the federal government decided, they were just going to cut the razor wire at the border, on Texas.

At Eagle Pass. Just came in. Cut it. Cameras were rolling. There were, hmm, about four how thousand Venezuelans waiting on the other side. And 14,000 announced a state of emergency in Eagle Pass.

When is Texas going to actually become Texas?

My first or actually my second question to Ken Paxton, and we begin right now.

Ken, welcome to the program. I'm glad that this is all behind you.

It seemed to me, to be an absolute witch hunt. But I -- I wanted to ask you, one question, on this. Because I know you covered a lot of this with Tucker Carlson yesterday. But let me -- let me go into the Wall Street Journal.

Why Ken Paxton was acquitted.

It's by the entire editorial board. It's just ridiculous.

Listen to this. Mr. Paxton's defenders are spinning that he was saved by a populist national conservative groundswell to put an end to the bush era in Texas. What a joke. There is no longer a Bush era in Texas or anywhere else.

George P. Bush. Jeb Bush's son lost to Mr. Paxton. Yeah. Well, yes.

So how is that the end of Bush? What really happened on Saturday, is that Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick chose to rescue in a reboot of his rival, House Speaker Dade Phelan. The acquittal is perhaps a satisfying victory for Mr. Patrick over his House rival.

But it may not play out so well for Texas Republicans in the longer run.

A federal investigation into Mr. Paxton is continuing amid reports that a grand jury has been impaneled.

What do you know about that, Ken?

KEN: Well, first of all, I have seen people of Texas. I am here.

Because by the grace of God, and the -- those people that I just mentioned, the Biden administration, I have seen it 48 times. The Biden administration, 27 times.

This was organized by the Biden administration. And I thought, well, how could that be? It happened because in Texas, the Speaker is elected by 65 Democrats. And ten Republicans. That's all it takes.

And what the Democrats do is they block votes, they figure out which Republicans will give them the most.

And they -- they agreed to this deal with the Biden administration. Went straight to the Texas Democrats. And they came after me. And shoot, I've been investigated ever since the day I walked into this office. And I have no doubt, the Biden administration would love to find some way. They've been working on it for years.

To get rid of me. And part of that process was the impeachment.

GLENN: So I have to tell you, I think Phelan should be impeached himself. This is such a sham of everything that was going on.

But let me talk about the border here. Because, Ken, while you've been away, Texas has been a wuss in many cases.

Yesterday, the razor wire at Eagle Pass was cut. We had this gigantic colony in Houston. Which is, you, you know, they're change girls up, and raping them. One escaped. Tried to.

And was killed. Both of them ended up dead. There's all kinds of cartel activity going on.

This is a colony in Houston. The size of Washington, DC. More people are on the way. When is Texas going to become Texas?

KEN: So I literally had my first briefing yesterday from my office. We spent probably four months, and I have people that have left. There's lots of stuff that I didn't know what was going on.

I didn't get information from my office. So yesterday, I spent more time talking about immigration. And what's going on in the border. What can we do.

We're in the process of looking into potential lawsuits.

I don't have an army to do anything about it. All I can do is what I can do, of course. So we already had a bunch of lawsuits, against the Biden administration. But we're definitely looking at more.

We're trying to figure out, how can we stop this travesty, with the Biden administration, is promoting. It's pretty clear to me.

They do not care about the American people. This is so horrible. And a consequence for people on the border.

That are US citizens. And for our sake. Are devastated. And those consequences with drugs, and crime. Will be sold in this country, for a long time to come.

GLENN: So did the governor reach out you to, yesterday, about the wire cutting?

VOICE: I did not hear from his office yesterday. My staff may have. But I didn't. I didn't know about it until you just said something.

GLENN: No one from the governor's office called you about the federal government cutting the razor wire and letting thousands of people in across our border at Eagle Pass? No one called you?

KEN: I heard about that story, on -- right before your show started as I listened to the news. That's when I heard about the wire cutting. I did not know.

GLENN: Okay. The -- you said to Tucker yesterday, in your interview with him. And this kind of -- just kind of went and he didn't follow up. And I found this quite important.

The Court of Appeals and the state of Texas, apparently now, you cannot prosecute voter fraud in Texas. Is that true?

KEN: Yes. That is correct. They struck down a law from 1951. And, by the way, I have four things that I'm supposed to do in the Constitution. And the final thing is, such things that are required by law. In 1951, the legislature, directed by the attorney general, the only thing that I have jurisdiction on, as early as criminal matters is voter fraud.

And a court of criminal appeals. All Republican, by the way.

And, by the way, no one knows who they are. This is why they've been put there. And I'm convinced they're not Republicans. Because they struck down this law. And they said, I don't have the authority to go to court. As an attorney general.

Because I'm in the executive branch. That was their rationale for striking down things. Unconstitutional for the attorney general to be in court. I'm like, is that the most insane thing ever?

But they did it. And now it's up to the local DAs to prosecute. The Dallas county. The Harris County. Houston.

They won't prosecute voter fraud. Guess what, they just talked about voter fraud. And the people of Texas, need to know that. And if there's three of the nine members, coming up in March, for a primary. We have to find people to run. And we have to beat those people. Or we will lose this state.

Because I tried to get this law passed again. So I always have -- I can start doing it again, and making them strike again. And guess who killed it?

Dade Phelan. I called him. He never returned my calls. I was told by his team they didn't have time to pass this law. Even though --

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

KEN: That's where we are with Dade Phelan. That's where we are with the Texas House. And that's where we are with the Court of Criminal Appeals.

That's our highest court.

Like our Supreme Court. One of two states have this, for all criminal matters.

So I have no appeal. When they strike down and say this is unconstitutional, I can't prosecute criminal fraud, I have no way around it. I'm stuck. That's what I'm saying.

GLENN: Okay. So who needs to be called? The House?

KEN: The House needs to pass this. They lost two years. And in March, I think we're -- I just we're going to have three people running against the members of the Court of Appeals. We have to get those people elected, because we lost eight-one. And if we have three new members, we'll at least be 5-4. And we'll be sending a message, we cannot strike down --

GLENN: Okay. Who are the three members?

KEN: I do not have it on me. Yeah. Three members will be up this time. I think one of them is Michelle (inaudible). I think Barbara Kirby. And I'm trying to remember the third one. I think those are the three that are up.

GLENN: We'll find it.

KEN: Glenn, I don't think there's any more important issue than fixing this court.

GLENN: Why did this happen? How did this happen?

KEN: Okay. So I think George Soros, my opinion, he was trying to do three things.

One, get the DA -- he beat all these Democratic DAs that were prosecuting crimes. He did it in Travis County. The Democrat County there, was actually prosecuted.

He did the same thing in San Antonio.

So he got control of that, knowing full well that this would affect voting.

Second, he put -- he helped put nine members on the Supreme Court. Actually eight. Kevin is awesome.

The other -- eight.

No one knows who they are. And I think he -- because Republicans don't know who these people are. He was able to get the numbers to court. And strike down this law. And then the third strategy -- and then there's nowhere to go.

So that was the goal. They didn't hear it from me. So there's still hope. We have to get the criminal court of appeals. We have to get the House next time to pass this law.

GLENN: You know, Donald Trump said, yesterday, let me see if I can actually quote him on -- on something. He said yesterday, that we -- if there is a defeat in 2024, it will mean the end of the country. The 2024 presidential election will mean nothing less than the final battle for the US. I am beginning to think that's absolutely true. If we make it to 2024.

KEN: I told him, when he was running for reelection in May, that I was fighting a battle to stop massive bailout ballots. In all the biggest counties.

Travis County. Then Harris County, to Houston. We have 12 lawsuits. If I don't win every single one of those lawsuits, you'll lose Texas. He said, what? That's not possible. I said, it doesn't matter what your polling says. If they can cut out six or seven million ballots for just one count. Say Harris County sends $2.5 million out.

You won by 600,000 votes, you won't win votes. They will count votes.

Because we can't verify. If they mail them out to everyone. There's no signature verification. Which is still not even the best way to make sure people are voting right.

We have no way to verify. They will count as many ballots as they want. They will figure out how their numbers are. And guess what, we thought every one of those lawsuits, even though this is a terrible place. Terrible judges. I watched election night.

I said, this is exactly -- they will stop counting votes for a couple of days. So they can figure out, how many votes they needed to count with these mail-in ballots.

And that's exactly what happened in these other states.

Whenever I bring it up, they say I'm crazy. That's exactly what they did.

GLENN: You know, one thing I really worry about is the number of illegals, in you're country. The ones we don't even know about. We already, since Biden got into office. We have already passed the population of 15 different states. Combinations of three states. Would equal the amount that has come in.

It is -- it's -- you're seeing crime and everything else.

And we're only seeing the surface of this.

I -- I wonder if Texas can stand. How much is this changing?

If they can just register, or -- or get people to get in here to do voting. Which is their plan? Beyond that, the crime, the social services. The hospitals.

I -- I -- we're so close to the border. If we don't get this border sealed, we're done.

KEN: No, this is the plan.

People are like, why did Biden do this?

One, first, voting. Getting as many people, in the Republican states, that they can come.

Voters, whether it's legal or illegal. Right now, they can vote illegally.

No one is going to do anything about it. It won't matter.

Second, they wanted to get as many illegals into these Republican states.

Guess what, we're doing better than Democratic states.

We have low taxes, less regulation.

More opportunity.

Better governance.

And they want to bring in more problems.

They want to take us down, because the story is too good for Texas, Florida, and Tennessee, Utah. The Republican states were successful.

The Democrat states are losing people.

Because people are voting with their feet. The Biden administration said, okay. We'll make you pay for it. We'll make you pay for all the schooling, health care, law enforcement, crime.

Your kids are going to die. We will get you, and that's what the Biden administration is all about.

GLENN: Well, any good news to report?

KEN: Yeah. There's always help.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I have to tell you, it looked like they were going to be able to railroad you.

And, look, I know you're not a perfect person.

But, you know, I had a real problem, when they came to the impeachment hearings after promising, just like the Democrats. All kinds of evidence. All kinds of -- and then literally nothing.

KEN: Their lawyers, Glenn, said it will be ten times worse than the public.

Guess what, it's ten times less.

They tried to railroad me out. No testimony that's required by law.

No due process. No chance for me to refute any of this stuff.

All done secretly. No transparency done in three days. Some other things. Now, I have no resources.

I spent all my money on a campaign.

I have no -- I had no lawyers.

I had three months to figure out what they had.

And they kept hiding information, even though they were requiring the turnover. And then, of course, I had the gag orders. I couldn't defend myself. I couldn't go out and talk, couldn't call you.

On the other hand, they were able to leak information to the press. Every day, I've been impounded. All of that, was against me.

And yet, because of the people in Texas, because of my strong family support, because of my wife's support. And because of the grace of God. You know, I just decided, I'm going to fight this to the last second.

I will not resign. Because if they win this. Because they can just do this to anybody they want. I will not let the voters down.

GLENN: So who will pay for this?

Is any -- is any investigation -- I don't want revenge.

I want this to not be able to happen again.

KEN: No. So Dan Patrick, God bless him for this. He called for an audit. Which I think was fair. They were trying to figure out how much money they were spending. I think we will find out how much money they spent. Which is millions.

And look, it's totally unfair to push someone out of office, with no proof.

And I have to pay for it.

And I have to lose, just because they have all the money for the taxpayers. And I'm left with just nothing.

Most people would not have made it through that. With no resources.

And that is unfair to the House bill, is that suspended with no proof. And then take away one -- illegally cuts my salary off to punish me.

Even though he had no authority to do that.

And I'm supposed to survive this.they did everything they could to make it impossible for me to get the truth out, and to survive.

GLENN: This is so weird.

KEN: Again, against the will of the voters.

GLENN: We are becoming an old Soviet state. It's terrifying.

KEN: This is Texas, Glenn. Texas.

GLENN: Oh, I know. I know. Ken, thank you very much. I appreciate it. God bless. Thank you.

STOP thinking about the Roman Empire. Do THIS instead

Apparently, men think about the Roman Empire a lot — often in a positive light. But that's NOT the solution, Glenn warns. We don't need a Caesar to fix our problems. We need to start standing for the Constitution again. Glenn reviews some of the insane news of the day, from Attorney General Merrick Garland's infuriating Congressional testimony to the Biden administration's decision to go after a German family who fled to America for religious freedom. "I'm not sure I know how to help anymore," Glenn says. "The hour is growing very, very late." But there is hope. Conservatives just need to get their act together.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Honest to God, America. What is wrong with you?

How is this not clearly a problem? Look at what is happening in our court system. Look at what Massey has to say yesterday to our attorney general.

You've seen this yet? Here's the first clip from Massey and our attorney general, the chief law enforcement officer of our country. Listen to this.

VOICE: That was your answer to questions made two years ago. When I said, how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th, and agitating in the crowd, to go into the Capitol. And how many went into the Capitol? Can you answer that now?

VOICE: I don't know the answer to that question.

VOICE: Oh, last time, you didn't know how many there were, or there were none?

VOICE: I don't know any of those questions, if there were any. I don't know how many, or whether there are any.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

VOICE: I think you may have just purged yourself, that you don't know that there were any. You don't know that there were any?

VOICE: I have no personal knowledge on this matter.

VOICE: You've had two years to find out.

And the day -- by the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps.

And yesterday, you indicted him. Isn't that a wonderful coincidence on a misdemeanor?

Meanwhile, you're sending grandmas to prison. You're putting people away for 20 years, who weren't really filming.

Some people weren't even there. Yet, you got the guy on video. Saying, he's going into the Capitol.

Directing people into the Capitol, before the speech ends. He's at the site of the first breach. You have all the goods on him. Ten videos, and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor?

The American public isn't buying it.

GLENN: Okay. Listen, this is what he said about that question in 2021, listen.

VOICE: I was hoping today to give an opportunity to put to rest the concerns that people have, that there were federal agents, or assets of the federal government, present on January 5th, and January 6th.

You can tell us, without talking about particular incidents. Or particular videos. How many agents or assets of the federal government were present on January 6th.

Whether they agitated to go into the Capitol. And if any of them did.

VOICE: So I will not violate this norm of the rule of law.

I won't comment on an investigation that is ongoing.

GLENN: Hmm.

How do you -- how do you investigate January 6th, and you don't -- you haven't even asked, if we had any agents on the ground?

How is that even possible!

How is that possible? Is anyone else, beside people who voted differently than Joe Biden. Is anyone else saying, wait a minute.

Ray Epps, he was on the FBI's most wanted list. Then they removed his picture after a few days.

Then when people said, wait a minute. Who is this guy? Others identified him as Ray Epps.

He then becomes no big deal.

The New York Times does this love letter to Ray Epps.

He's on videotape. Saying, we have to go in there. We have to go in, tomorrow.

We go in. We have videotape of him actually looking at one guy, who is standing at the gate, who is not trying to open it up.

And he leans in, and whispers in his ear. And pretty soon, not long after the whisper in the ear, within seconds, that guy starts shoving the gate open. And letting everybody in.

And Ray Epps actually said in testimony, I was just telling him, is this isn't you. The cops are our friends. Don't do this.

Really?

Because he was peaceful before.

And this guy is now getting a misdemeanor.

He's everything. The Biden administration says, is a problem.

He's everything. All of the people, that were there, around him, when he was giving the speech, the night before. Everybody around him. Trump supporters. Real Trump supporters, were shouting, fed, fed. Fed.

Because they sensed that this was a setup.

Does anybody have a problem with that?

Does anybody have a problem with what Garland is doing, slow walking every investigation, in Washington. And then putting grandmas in jail.

Look, we don't usually prosecute people, who lie on their form.

You know, for their gun. Excuse me, what?

This administration? This one, isn't looking for every opportunity to put somebody in jail.

A white guy?

Huh. I -- I -- I'm not sure I know how to help anymore. I really don't.

I'm having a very difficult time, because the hour is growing very, very late.

And I don't see the movements. You know what, here's what I see. Here's what I see. I see people if we go to very frustrated, and they're going, you know what, get them.

I see that. I see guys apparently talking about the Roman empire all the time. I don't even know what that is.

Stu, how many times do you think of the Roman empire a day?

STU: I mean, zero. But I have read two Marcus Aurelias in the past year. So that is a -- I would like style zero. That was my initial response. But actually more than that.

GLENN: My answer is never. But I spell never N-E-5-E-R. I mean, this is ridiculous. And we need a new Caesar Day. No, we don't. No, we don't. Where are the people that are learning the Constitution? Where are the people that are standing for the Constitution?

You have brave whistle-blowers now. But nobody seems to care about what the whistle-blowers are saying. And these whistle-blowers are credible.

You know their names.

They're taking the heat.

It's not, like, when you hear what this whistle-blower. We won't tell you who it is. Even though, everybody knows who it is already. And that makes it suspect.

We're not going to tell you, that that's him. Because he has stuff, that you won't believe.

And then where is the stuff?

Just exactly what happened to Ken Paxton.

Do you know that the governor yesterday.

Well, let me just tell you this one. Let me just tell you this one. This one shows me how deep the problems are.

Do you remember talking about a couple from Germany, who had seven kids?

The Romakey family.

And they came over here. This was like 2013. And they came over here, because the state said they had to teach their kids.

I don't remember what it was. And they were like, no. That violates our religious point of view.

No. We can't do that. And so they were going to take the kids away. And so they decided to come over here.

And after a battle with the Obama administration, they were allowed to stay here in Virginia. Do you know what the Biden administration just did. After leaving these people alone, for ten years, give theming hope, that America was a place that they could actually have freedom of religion without any notice or anything.

They just called them up. And said, by the way, you have to return to Germany, or you're out.

We have two and a half to 3 million people in the last two years. Coming across our border. And yet, you have this family, in Virginia. That is peaceful, kind, productive.

All they want, is to teach their kids about God.

And our government -- this shows you, how much money and how deep this goes.

When you have time, in these days to go,, oh, you remember that family? Get them.

The governor in Pennsylvania yesterday, just signed a new order, where now you can be registered to vote with your driver's license. Okay. Except, that's not what the law says.

The governor cannot do that. The legislature has to.

And they currently have a system, where you go to get your driver's license. And you have to check a box. I want to register my vote now, or not.

All you have to do is check a box!

That's too much work. They took the box off. The government did, by himself.

Disregarding the Constitution of Pennsylvania. Don't worry. They can do it.

I -- I have got something prepared for next hour. That is the answer. But I don't -- I don't think. I'm not sure if people want the answer.

I'm not sure. I'm not sure.Ing I think so many people have buried their heads. And the people who are actually aware of it are like, what are we going to do? What are we going to do?

I'm so close to just saying, get to the mountains, gang. Get to the mountains.

Let God sort all this stuff out. It will be ugly. It will be ugly. Because we refuse to turn back to him. After September 11th, well, we learned our lesson. Oh, God, help us. Oh, God help us. And we actually meant, oh, God, help us.

Eh. We went our own way. And now look at where we are.

I pray for you every day. I ask that you would pray for me. And my staff. And for guidance. I don't even -- I'm getting to the point where, I don't know what is true anymore.

I don't know what is true. I mean, I've been duped and fooled so many times, in so many ways. That I'm like, and, you know, I believe in the best in people.

I believe in the people of America. I believe in you.

And I know we can turn this around. I mean, wonder, where the hell are our armies are?

And I mean armies of even bureaucrats.

Of think tank people. Who are actually doing something.

These people have thought this through for years.

This is not happening through happenstance. It's not because Biden sucks.

This is a plan!

Where is ours?

Where is our -- where is the group that is -- we can coalesce around?