President Biden has pardoned or granted clemency to TONS of people, including some controversial prisoners. Glenn and Stu review some of the worst, including a woman who stole $54 million from her small town and the “kids-for-cash” judge, who sent kids to a for-profit juvenile detention center in exchange for $2 million. Glenn and Stu also discuss the latest update in the Duke lacrosse case, where the woman who originally accused 3 players admitted to making the whole thing up. But has she found God since then?
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GLENN: You know, I have to -- I have to bring up the pardon thing. Because I -- I -- I don't -- what!
Apparently, Biden now has pardoned nine thousand people.
Like George Bush did 500.
And -- over eight years!
9,000 people. The only one close is Jimmy Carter, because he did 12,000 people, that had to go to Canada because they tried to avoid the Vietnam War.
So he just did a blanket pardon of 12,000 people.
This is 9,000 individuals.
STU: Yeah. Some of them work sort of in that blanket.
He did 1500 in one day. Which is the most that ever happened in that take.
There were more blanket. Here's a class of criminal.
In a certain situation.
But like, some of the specifics are really bizarre. Right?
This woman who built this town.
GLENN: Yeah. So there's a town, Dickson, Illinois, and it's a small town.
And this woman worked for the town, and she had opened up an account. And she was transferring money into her account.
And people are like, where is all the money going?
54 million dollars. Okay?
She -- I love the list of what she bought.
She bought like 400 horses.
And then like 80 acres of land.
Chuck have 400 horses on 80 acres of land.
STU: You can't. Why is that?
GLENN: Well, that's a lot of horses.
STU: As a person who grew up in New York.
Why is that a problem?
GLENN:
GLENN: That's not even grass!
STU: Not enough grass!
GLENN: You would to have year around, be feeding the horses.
STU: How much grass are these things eating? Calm down. Calm down.
Jeez. It's grass.
GLENN: Anyways, she bought, let's see, 400 horses, 48 trucks, luxury motor home. Classic cars. A boat. 80 acres of land.
Jewelry, personal credit cards. Business expenses. Furnishing for at least three homes.
Including a Florida vacation home.
STU: You would think, at some point, a small home. They would have caught this earlier.
GLENN: You have a new collection. And you work, what?
Where?
So, anyway, she goes on vacation, and the city is like, let's check her bank records. Her bank account. And so they get the warrant. They check her bank.
They arrest her.
She's 20 years.
She served four or five years of her time.
And she's like, I'm getting really old and sick.
And she's not that old.
And so the judge says, okay.
And this set the town on fire.
The judge said, okay.
Home arrest. Ankle bracelet. You cannot leave your home. Okay. If you're sick, and you're worried that your family will not see you and whatever, fine!
STU: Okay.
GLENN: That wasn't good enough for whoever is putting this one in front of Joe Biden?
He just said, you're not -- why?
STU: Yeah, why?
GLENN: Who suggested this one?
STU: Somebody.
It wasn't just a random -- like, he was just perusing the internet. Came across this story.
This person, who brought 400 horses for 80. 400 horses for 80 acres.
80 acres which, by the way, is too many horses on that many acres. I could be wrong, horse people. I could be wrong. Horse cows can't do it.
Horse people. They are horse people. They have the head and hands of horses. The rest of them are human. It's weird.
STU: Really? Oh, my God. I would say that's horrific, but that would be hateful. We shouldn't judge other people's cultures.
GLENN: They are just like people. They need people food, but they don't have fingers or thumbs.
STU: So they just eat grass.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: I -- this isn't a random thing.
The way a lot of this works is somebody, who is tied to the administration.
GLENN: Okay. May I --
STU: Somebody who -- right.
Has a connection, or a person who has a connection to somebody else.
GLENN: Uh-huh.
STU: Gets message to somebody in the administration.
Hey. I like this person, I don't think they're that bad.
You should let them out.
GLENN: And that's -- that's not the way it -- let me just -- I'll tell you a story. I've never told on the air before.
There's a guy I know, who I think, it was caught up in something that he -- he didn't do.
Everything that I see, looks like he's been falsely accused. And it's just destroyed his life for many, many years.
And they -- they haven't sentenced him.
And he's like, waiting for the shoe to drop for like, at that time, two years.
That was four years ago.
And so his attorney called me, and he said, you know the president.
And I went through the case, and everything. And I thought, I think -- I think he's actually innocent.
So I called the president. Right after the new year. And I said, Mr. President, may I pitch you on a name?
We've already sent it to your vetters, so they're looking at it.
I just want to tell you -- got the shaft.
STU: You made a personal plea.
GLENN: I made a personal plea.
And we talked about it for a while.
And he said, okay. I would love to do that, but I have to look at the case.
I haven't heard of this case. I said, I understand. I want to put my name -- just put it on your radar. They looked at it. They disagreed. He wasn't pardoned.
But that's the way it happens.
STU: Uh-huh.
GLENN: Okay? Some lawyer gets information, to the White House.
And that lawyer knows somebody who knows somebody in the White House.
And they call and say, 9,000 pardons?
9,000. First of all, President Trump -- President Biden has no idea. There's no way you can go through 9,000.
How many lawyers at the White House, do they have, going over these cases, for 9,000 reversals?
STU: Right. They're just saying, likely, allegedly. Just saying yes to everybody who is asking --
GLENN: Why would you let this person go?
STU: It seems like a terrible one.
Someone who bilked the public for millions and millions and millions of dollars.
GLENN: Fifty-four millions dollars. That's a lot of money for say small town.
They had to cut services.
Okay. What about the one with the judge. Listen to this one.
STU: This is a story of a judge, long story short, basically was accused. And convicted of going through, taking people, and intentionally sentencing young people, juveniles, and young people.
From getting -- if I'm remembering all the details of this story correctly.
To prisons, in conjunction to someone who was running the prison.
And, of course, the --
GLENN: The prison makes money.
STU: It's a for-profit prison.
GLENN: The prison makes money, if they get more prisoners.
STU: Right. So they were sentencing people for prison time.
To line their pockets. And associate's pockets.
GLENN: That person, honestly. That's one of the worst crimes.
To me, that's up there with murder.
STU: I will say, I have seen some legitimate anger from the left on that in particular.
GLENN: That should be. That should be.
That's an assault on not just our laws.
That's not money.
That is putting -- that's taking somebody's liberty. And really, you live with that for the rest of your life. Your life!
For money?
The judge is doing that?
That person should never get out of prison. At least early!
I think that is one of the worst crimes I've heard.
STU: It's -- it's a really rough run.
You're talking about the lives of young people. Who might be able to turn their lives around. And who knows?
GLENN: Look at the story that came out, when was this?
Friday or Thursday of last week.
The girl who said, oh, by the way, the Duke lacrosse team. I did make that up.
Now. She didn't say it that way.
That's the way I heard it.
And I was outraged.
This person is should number jail. Well, she's already in jail. She murdered somebody. She's already in jail.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: But it looks like she's had a deep spiritual change in her.
Now, that doesn't mean, I'm going to say, you know what, let's forget the prison thing on the murder!
No.
STU: No.
GLENN: But she looks like she had a deep Jesus moment.
And she was clearing this up!
I think that is absolutely incredible, because the three boys that were charged, and everyone in the Duke lacrosse team, was smeared. But imagine being one of those three that were named.
Trying to get a job.
STU: Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
Yeah. Horrible.
I had -- you mentioned, Glenn. I have a friend of a friend. Who is on the Duke lacrosse team. Was on that Duke lacrosse team.
Not one of the kids who was actually -- not even at the party. Not even at the party.
Were they not accused of doing anything wrong at the party.
But weren't at the party.
And the second they would get -- they would turn in a resume with someone. With duke and lacrosse on it. In that time period. They would just not get call backs from prospective employers.
Because of this.
And some of them would tell them. I can't hire somebody from the duke freaking lacrosse team.
Which is -- it's somewhat understandable, from an employer's perspective.
You would really have to be sure. Now, in that case, they should have been sure, because he wasn't even at the party.
Still, this was an awful slander beyond slander.
Of course, they wound up winning challenges.
GLENN: Yeah. But remember -- remember the name Nifong.
STU: Yeah. He was -- he stuck to it, even after.
GLENN: Oh, he was like, these guys are criminals, blah, blah, blah.
He just going and going and going. Said that it was, you know, racist. The entire team was racist. The school was racist.
I mean, somebody should pay a price for this.
You destroyed lives.
STU: If you remember the story, it was a stripper who went to a party.
And claims she was raped. Right?
GLENN: Right. But there was no DNA evidence. She was drunk and on drugs.
She left the party early.
Everyone she said was actually there, wasn't there.
STU: Many of them weren't.
Yeah. There's all sorts of problems. The case fell apart. There was a big scandal. She never came out and said, by the way, I was totally lying about that.
In the interim, she murdered her boyfriend with the kitchen knife.
GLENN: That happens. That happens to all of us.
STU: Went to prison. And has had what she claims is a -- is a transformation. I want to play this video for you. It's about a minute and a half long.
Glenn, do you buy this?
Does it seem real to you?
VOICE: The Bible says that you shouldn't do harm to your neighbor that lives trustingly beside you, and they were my brothers. And they trusted me that I wouldn't betray their trust.
And I testified falsely against them, by saying that they raped me, when they didn't.
And that was wrong.
And I betrayed the trust of a lot of other people, who believed in me.
And made up a story, that wasn't true. Because I wanted validation from people. And not from God.
And that was wrong. When God already loved me for who I was, regardless.
I didn't need to seek validation from him. Because I already have validation from him. I just didn't know it.
And I hurt my brothers.
And I hope that they can forgive me, and I want them to know that I love them.
And they didn't deserve it. And I hope that they can forgive me.
And the -- I hope that they can heal and trust God.
And know that God loves them. And the -- God is loving them, through me. Letting them know, that they're valuable, and that they didn't deserve that.
GLENN: Hmm.
STU: I think it's pretty interesting.
Now, it should be noted. She's got nothing to gain as far as getting out of prison. She murdered someone.
So she's not like on the verge of getting out. And this will help her.
This is --
GLENN: Well, it will help her eventually.
STU: It could.
GLENN: It could. Just admitting, you know, that you did it, and it was wrong. Is a big deal.
STU: Sure.
GLENN: She's not reacting the way I would have.
But, you know, I blubber all the time.
If I had done that. It would have been more emotional. But she may -- you know, it may not be the way she reacts.
STU: I will say, she initiated this happening. Right?
She called a reporter to come to do this.
GLENN: To talk about that.
STU: To talk about this. So, you know, she had it planned for a while. It wasn't off the top of her head.
GLENN: Okay. Yeah. That makes a difference.
I want to believe her.
I want to believe her.
God only knows, but I want to believe her.
