RADIOOctober 08, 2024

Did a Black Hawk helicopter TARGET a hurricane aid depot?

Footage has gone viral of an unmarked Black Hawk helicopter blowing over tents and supplies at a Hurricane Helene aid depot in Burnsville, North Carolina. So, are the rumors true? Who piloted the helicopter? Was it just an accident? Was it meant to send a message? Is FEMA or another federal agency involved? Glenn speaks with United Cajun Navy Vice President Brian Trascher, who tells Glenn that this looks more like a “hotshot” who accidentally came in too close than governmental revenge. However, he also spoke to people who claim they saw the pilots wearing standard Department of Defense gear. Brian also addresses what the United Cajun Navy is doing to prepare for Hurricane Milton. Plus, Glenn hears from a caller who says he was a Blackhawk pilot in the military and has personal experience with these incidents …

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GLENN: Brian Trascher is on, the vice president of the Cajun Navy. The United Cajun Navy. Brian, thank you for everything you guys are doing. You are absolute heroes.

BRIAN: Glenn, thanks so much for having us. And really just want to take a minute to thank you and JP, the team over at Mercury One for the tremendous support and generosity they've been giving us throughout this deployment in North Carolina. And we hope to continue to keep working together in Florida. So thank you so much from the bottom of our hearts. Thank you, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. Please, it's the audience, not me.

BRIAN: Right.

GLENN: Please, don't let me forget, before we go, to talk about Florida, and what we have to do in Florida. But first, can you talk to me.

Are supplies meant for Hurricane Helene? Are they purposefully being thwarted?

And what happened with the helicopter?

BRIAN: So, you know, you know, I think I made the mistake of asking for new conspiracy theories for Christmas. Because all the ones I asked for last year, came true.
(laughter)

BRIAN: So, you know, we -- we were on the ground pretty early in Florida. You know, we always say that people have to understand that FEMA and the National Guard are not first responders. They're second responders. The first responders locally -- the local first responders are also victims, so they're not always fully up to speed.

So that's why we put people on the ground to get to work right away.

The good thing about the United Cajun Navy, is we don't to have ask our lawyers permission to do anything, we just ask them to show up to the bond hearing later, and we'll deal with it.

So anyhow, when we first got down there, we were hearing reports about people getting -- getting stopped. And getting, you know -- impeding the relief efforts. It didn't happen to us.

You know, we have an existing relationship with FEMA and the Red Cross and a lot of agencies.

So they know who we are, and so we weren't really experiencing it like other people were.

We were getting reports of it, for sure. But then, we were -- we started getting frantic calls and texts, and pictures, and stuff. Sent to us. From our volunteers. Over at that site.

Saying, you know, what the hell is happening?

You know, they said that -- that this Blackhawk did a little pass. Like he was going to land. He started giving us the X signs with his arms, saying it was a no land zone.

And he kept coming down. You know, look, I wasn't there myself. But I watched a video a bunch of times. I am a pilot. I'm a fixed wing pilot, not helicopter.

But it does look to me, that, first of all, he was flying too low. They have to stay 500 feet over any structure or person. That's just the day one rule.

But it looks like he does a left bank, and then aft pitch, which increased, in my opinion, the strength of the rotary wash, that you saw blowing all the materials in the tents everywhere.

And then he pitched forward and took off. So I really don't -- you know, everybody has been sending us information on the aircraft. They're saying, you know, I don't want to say, because we don't know for sure. But they think they know who it belongs to. And where it came from.

Nobody knows, including myself, what the intent was. Some people are telling me, oh, the pilot just lost situational awareness and made a mistake. I'm like, listen, Blackhawk pilots are the Top Guns of the rotary wing.

The only Blackhawk pilots that make mistakes are the dead ones. You know, these guys are some of the best helicopter pilots in the world.

Seems like, either we had just a rogue hotshot, or they were trying to send some kind of message. I hate to go down that rabbit hole. Everybody saw the video now.

I'm happy to hear what anybody thinks.

GLENN: So do -- I -- I know somebody who has a Blackhawk. Believe it or not. I didn't know you could buy them, but you can strip down apparently.

Do we know if this was private? At least.

BRIAN: That was. Okay. So my first instinct was -- because you're right. If you've got money, you can buy anything. Right? You can rent a congressman pretty cheap these days, including with inflation.

But somebody -- one of our followers was really good with video. And they were able to close up on it, and see. The two pilots in the cockpit.

It takes two pilots to fly a cockpit. And they said, they were wearing standard DOD headgear. The aircraft does -- if we think we've identified the right one, does appear to be -- does appear to be registered to the military.

It was not armed. So I thought maybe it was -- it belonged to an agency. You know, I don't know. There's so many possibilities.

GLENN: There was no marking on it?

BRIAN: Not that I'm aware of. We've looked at everything, that we could, as far as with the video and pictures available.

GLENN: I mean, that's illegal, isn't it?

BRIAN: Yeah. We just didn't see any.

GLENN: Huh.

BRIAN: And so people have been using Flight Tracker and things like that, to see who was flying missions in that area. And, again, they have come up a few possibilities.

We're trying not to jump the gun. And even, let's say, it was military, the last thing I want people going and trying to find out who the pilots were. And start harassing them.

You know, I don't want all of that.

GLENN: Yeah. You know, and I just said on the air, anybody who is threatening any government official, is a problem.

And it should -- it should stop. However, you know, standing there, in a place, like you're at now.

I assume you're at our base camp there, by the Harley-Davidson dealer.

BRIAN: Yeah. Adam Smith, one of the baddest dudes in North Carolina.

GLENN: Yeah. And he has politely told them. Go away.

Because we have a system down. And it's been working. And it's saved a lot of lives.

And you can go do your thing.

But you're not shutting us down. There's no problem with saying, thank you. But, no, thank you. As we are the first responders.

But you cannot take it out on the people.

You can't. Please, be kind. If you --

BRIAN: And I'll tell you, Glenn. It just so happened, that the week before Helene hit. We had some prescheduled meetings in DC. And one of those meetings was at FEMA. They had us up at the Incident Command Center, which is like their war room.

And they had done a level one activation, and they were watching Helene.

And they were talking to all the local emergency managers, and making plans.

And I did not meet anybody in the entire building. When I was at FEMA. That was not a passionate, dedicated person that cares about their job. And cares about helping people in trouble.

So FEMA is -- as a -- as a entity, seems like, just another F-word.

And you can say what you want about the leadership of FEMA and the political appointee.

But the people on the ground. And there are people on the ground in North Carolina. Has been since I got there. But, yeah, don't be ugly to those people. They're just employees. Their job is to do this, and they do care about it.

GLENN: Yeah. By the way, I don't know how they can say, that they've got this covered.

As of Monday yesterday, only 9 percent of FEMA's personnel or 1200 people, were available to respond to the hurricane or other disasters.

They are having a hard time. They don't -- they say, this is the busiest year in the past decade.

And the staffing reserves, at this point, were 19 percent.

That is -- obviously, not good.

And they are -- they are having a difficult time, getting people in to help.

So I don't know how the government can have it both ways.

By the way, this is coming from the New York Times.

I don't know how they can have it both ways. Look, we don't. You know, we don't need help.

And, you know, we're here to take over.

And then at the same time, be short people, especially with Milton on its way.

BRIAN: Right. And what's worse having being short people.

And this was something that was intimated to me, from some FEMA management people.

That obviously won't be named. But it's not just not having the bodies, again.

They are more experienced staff elsewhere.

And you know where I'm talking about. And so they have people, but they're kind of fairly new hires, still carrying around the employee handbook, trying to figure out what is going on. So they've requested it, to their credit. These people have requested from their higher-ups, to bring in some of these more senior experienced people and my understanding is that hasn't happened yet.

GLENN: I -- I can't thank you and every single veteran, that is on the ground.

I mean, the American people are really good people.

But we don't have the experience, per se, that you guys do.

The veterans.

And especially, Special Forces guys.

You guys sprung into action. And set these systems up.

Like only really military can do.

You just -- you had what you had. And you made good with that.

And you set it up. And you organize. And I think you made the difference between life and death with a lot of people.

So thank you.

BRIAN: Yeah. And, well, just to be clear.

I, myself, am not a military veteran. But I am a pilot. I'm a boat captain. I'm a diver. I just did all these types of skill sets on my own. And it turned out to be useful. But, yeah, you're right. We have a ton of veterans. And they do make the best volunteers.

And they just -- you can't freak them out. You can't make them. You can't make them woozy.

GLENN: I know.

BRIAN: They can handle anything. And I think one of the things that helped us out, as an organization. With regards to local. Or local or federal officials trying to stop relief efforts. That we put it really early. Anybody getting in our way, we're offering an all-expense paid free swamp tour back in Louisiana. So sign up, please.

GLENN: All right. Thank you so much. Before you go, talk to me about Milton.

BRIAN: We are. So Milton is -- you know, one of the lowest center of pressure in terms of millibars that we've seen in the last century. We have our own meteorologist on staff, the Navy that are making sure that we are putting out accurate information.

And it's -- it's bearing down. The NHC track, looking to stay right in that Tampa area. Unfortunately, it will hit. It's a very strong hurricane. We are prepositioned.

We have assets in Destin and Ocala.

And we're moving more into the area. We will have boat assets, supplies, and air assets just like we did in North Carolina. So nobody has to worry about whether we're coming, we're already there. We will help as many people as we can. The good thing about Florida is, they do such a good job with these hurricanes as a state. That usually we're just there for maybe a few days or a week. Handling the life-threatening emergency stuff. And then the state comes in and starts running their show. And, you know, they take over. And they have a tremendous game.

GLENN: Yeah. Ron DeSantis is absolutely incredible. Just incredible with the system.

BRIAN: Everybody should have a Navy SEAL as a governor. I mean, we love Jeff Landry, don't get me wrong. He's a bad dude. But they're on another level.

GLENN: Brian, is there anything you need in help?

BRIAN: If anybody wants to find out more about us, we're on all the socials. United Cajun Navy. Our website is UnitedCajunNavy.org. Sign up to volunteer. Donate.

We always say, time, talent, treasure. If you've got the time to give, the talent to offer, or the treasure to donate, we appreciate it all. One thing everybody can do for free, is go to our social media posts and share them. That helps us grow, and grow our mission. This is Mercury One and all our listeners.

So again, thank you so much. And we're very grateful.

GLENN: Thank you, Brian. We're glad to partner with you. Thank you. Brian Trascher from the Cajun Navy. He's the vice president.

STU: He's awesome.

GLENN: Yeah, he's awesome, and very funny.

GLENN: These guys, they've been through these things, over and over again.

Like he said, they're just unflappable.

And there's nothing better in an emergency, than have a group of people who say, we got it. Don't worry. We've got it. Don't worry.

Especially when they're grappling down from a helicopter, as they were over the mountains.

And, you know, pulling people up in the helicopter.

When I saw Cory Mills do that, I'm like, who does -- well, I mean, you do that. But I don't ever want to do that. I don't want to have to do that.

I don't want somebody to have to pick me up like that.

I'm just going to tie a rope around you.

We will just head on out.

No, thank you. No, thank you.

All right. More in just a second.

By the way, you can help. MercuryOne.org. Now with Milton on the way. We really need to pull together.

And know that we will be there for you.

That is kind of the thing that you learn, if you're a farmer. Or you live in a small town.

When the neighbor's farm has trouble. You go over and help.

Because you know at some point, you will have problems.

And they'll have to help you.

So it's -- it's not transactional. But it's required, that we all help each other.

We're the first responders, not the government.

GLENN: Let me go to Dallas.

And -- Dallas is -- I just looked up. I thought it was Dallas, Texas.

But Dallas is his name.

He is from Texas.

Hi, Dallas.

CALLER: Hi, how are you, Glenn. Long-time listener, first time caller.

GLENN: Thank you.

CALLER: I -- I am a retired Army aviation major. And I've got more than 1200 in Blackhawk, 1,200 hours in Blackhawks, and a couple hundred hours in Chinooks. And after hearing your conversation, I went to look at the videos of the Blackhawk dusting off your supply area.

And having done something very similar myself, more than once, it is -- I don't think it was on purpose.

GLENN: Good.

CALLER: It looked -- it looked to me, that as soon as they realized what they were doing, they were pulling away.

And I've seen more stuff than I can tell you, blown over, including one of my soldiers was blown over by an Apache. Actually sent him tumbling.

Many years ago, in Korea, a lieutenant and I were flying a Hawk, and we were tactically flying the riverbeds. And it just so happened, it was also the vacation season in Korea. And the Koreans set up these canopies, and easy ups on the river and floating in the water.

And we were following the riverbed, not going real fast. And I thought I was high enough, until I looked out and I saw canopies tumbling and flying every which direction.

GLENN: Oh, you were popular.

CALLER: Yeah, yeah, I was real popular.

GLENN: Yeah. Well, I'm glad to hear that. And I hope you don't think that we accused, because we said we didn't know. We would like to know who owned the helicopter.

You know, it didn't have a tail number on it.

And so who -- who was it?

And just to not take it out on the pilots or even the service, but just to ask the questions. What happened there? What happened there?

CALLER: I can't tell whether it's a civilian-owned Blackhawk or whether it's a government --

GLENN: No. Neither could we.

CALLER: There's a lot of agencies that have them. Once again, at Fort Hood, I got accused of flying over a neighborhood. While I was at my house, having a lunch. And I actually looked out and saw the Blackhawk. And I don't know if it was a customs or who it was. But after they found out that I was actually at my house and not flying, I got -- I got redeemed on that one.

But, no. If they had wanted to really cause some -- cause some damage, they would have come in a lot lower. It looked to me, that as soon as they realized, oh, crap.

GLENN: Yeah. That's good.

CALLER: It was light stuff. From looking at the video.

GLENN: Yeah.

CALLER: So I really -- in my heart of hearts, I don't think it was done on purpose.

GLENN: I'm glad to hear that, Dallas. Thank you so much.

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There's a big debate right now among the political Right over whether the United States should intervene in Israel's war with Iran. Should President Trump bomb Iran? Should he encourage regime change? Or should he completely stay out of it? Glenn Beck and The Federalist CEO and Co-founder Sean Davis discuss.

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GLENN: Sean, welcome to the program.

VOICE: Thank you for having me, sir.

GLENN: You bet. I'm glad to have you on.

You know, I'm not sure -- I'm not sure of anybody's position, because the smart people, like I think you are, are asking questions. And not coming out with these bold declarations. They're just asking questions.

And sometimes, their own response, at least mine is.

It's very nuanced. And I'm not recommending anything.

I'm asking questions, and I'm warning about the mistakes of the past.

I don't trust anybody.

But I also think a nuclear armed Iran is really bad. But I want Israel to take care of it.

I want to be involved in that.

It's their direct right now. Let them take care of it.

What -- where do you go from here. What questions should we be asking ourselves, Sean.

SEAN: Yeah. I love your approach to it. Because it doesn't start with a conclusion.

It's kind of trying to build with what we should be doing from the bottom-up.

Which becomes a discussion of first principles. And I think that's really important.

I think we probably all agree, that we don't want bad people. And we don't our enemies, to have weapons, they use to destroy us.

I think probably everyone agrees in that.

GLENN: Yes.

Well, can I add a caveat to that?

Not just our enemies, but especially those who are batcrap crazy.

Or believe in the return of the Mahdi, and I can hasten his return by washing the world in blood. That kind of -- that puts you in a special category for me.

But, anyway, go ahead.

SEAN: And, again, I think I might even extend it. I'm not sure I want our friends and allies to have it. In a perfect world, we would be the only country, with these massive weapons.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay. All right. I'll go for that. Okay.

SEAN: So the problem we have is that for, let's call 80 years. You know, 75.

The nuclear toothpaste has been out of the tube.

Soviet -- India, Pakistan. North Korea.

France. Israel.

In South Africa for a time, they all had nukes. And to me, the big problem that I have a really difficult time wrapping my head around, is how do you solve the problem we created with Gadhafi in Libya?

GLENN: Yes.

SEAN: That country gave up their weapons program, voluntarily after Iraq. Kind of before Iraq become another debacle and another cautionary tale. And they gave up their weapons in the US and NATO and our allies. We returned the favor, thanks to Hillary and Obama, by overthrowing Gadhafi and killing it.

I think what that communicated to every leader on earth, good or bad, if you don't ever want to be overthrown, you have to have nuclear weapons.

And so I start with understanding that fact, what is the best, most effective way to make our enemies -- make sure our enemies don't get nuclear weapons?

And I'll tell you, I don't have a good answer. Because we've heard for 40 years, that Iran is on the verge of a nuke.

They're about to have a nuke. They're about to have a weapon. So let's assume we go through with these attacks, and we bomb now or Israel bombs it.

What that doesn't get rid of is the incentive. It temporarily gets rid of a mechanism for I guess enriching uranium. But in four years or five years, how do we deal with that? I don't think regime change is a good idea. We've seen how well that works. It turns into an unmitigated disaster.

And so I think we just have to start with the question, what is the best possible way to incentivize people that we don't like, and don't like us, to not have weapons. And I genuinely don't have a good answer to it.

GLENN: You know what, I keep thinking. Every day I do this job. And I think what Reagan said when I was a kid.

He said, there's going to come a time.

And he was talking to Social Security at the time, but I apply it now to everything. There's going to come a time, where we've made so many mistakes. There won't be a good solution to everything. Every choice will be a bad choice.

And I think we're here. I think we're here. Everything we do, you're like, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't want to do to the mistakes of the past. But I don't know how to stop this now.

You know, regime change. Let me just take that one.

Regime change. It doesn't work. I loved your post. I think it was yesterday.

Yes, our military industrial complex lied about Vietnam. Killed Kennedy. Ran a coup against Nixon, then killed another Kennedy.

Tried to get MLK Jr. to kill himself. Ran drugs through the Americas to fund shenanigans in the Middle East.

Funded Bin Laden in the Taliban. Missed 9/11, and lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Got an ambassador murdered in Benghazi.

Then turned Libya into a slave market run by terrorists. Then created ISIS. Ran the Russia collusion hoax.

Tried to overthrow Trump with the Ukrainian hoax. Weaponized a bat virus that killed millions of people and lied about it. And used the virus they made to steal an election.

Then arrest Trump, tried to bankrupt him.

Try to make him die in prison, and then when they failed, they denied him adequate security, leading him to be shot in the head.

Yeah, they did all of those things.

The drug cartels, Iraq, Bosnia, in the 1990s.

Iraq and Afghanistan in the 2000s. Still Iraq and Afghanistan in 2010.

Plus, Libya, the whole moronic Arab Spring thing. Ukraine in the 2020s.

These were all disasters that cost millions of dollars and countless lives. You're right on every single one of those things.

Every single one of those things.

So how do we make a decision now'

SEAN: Right. And that's why I think it's important to get to first principles. Which is understanding our limitations.

Understanding history. Understanding how other nations view things. One thing that's driven me nuts in the foreign policy debates that we've had in the country, for 20, 30 years.

Is that there seems to be zero desire to put ourself in the position of our adversaries and our opponents. Saying, how are we looking at things?

Some people, if you try to do that, they'll say, oh, well, you're sympathizing with them. Or you're appeasing. Well, no. This is the basic stuff for negotiation.

You're playing chess against someone. You want to understand what they're going to do next.

So you can respond to it.

And we just never do that.

And I look at this. I think there's probably two major options. For either forestalling or preventing a particular regime for getting weapons.

The first one is regime change.

In the short-term, you can tell yourself, we will overthrow these people.

And then they won't want nukes anymore. Because we will put our friends in, and then it will be food.

Well, that's been ongoing in Iran for 100 years. The Brits and the Soviets were the ones who came in and put the original Shah in. It's been a mess over there.

So personally, I throw regime change out the window. Because it opens up pandora's box of just insanity, as we've seen in the Middle East.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on a second. Hang on a second.

Wait. Wait, on that.

Is there a chance that -- you know, I never saw it.

I kept saying. We headed to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Show me the person that will have their face on the stamp. Show me the person that will have their face on the money.

I never had somebody stand up and say, we need to be free.

And we need to fight for our own freedom. You do have those people that are really tired of this, and much more Western.

I don't want to get involved in a regime change. And I certainly don't want you to say, hey. We're going to help you pick a leader.

Is there a chance this time is different? Or is that wishful, stupid thinking?

JASON: You know, I think it's probably wishful thinking, but I don't know.

I tell you, I have a hard enough time figuring out what's going on politically in my own country. Think about all the time we spent pouring over polls in our election. Talking to our neighbors.

This is a country we were born in.

We understand its culture without even thinking about it. We're fluent in the language. We can talk to anyone we want, whenever we want. And we have a tough time, figuring out what is going on here. I don't have a clue what's happening in Iran.

I don't speak any of the three or four languages over there.

I don't understand the culture. I've never been there.

I've not been able to talk to people over there.

I don't know thousand read the news there.

The idea that I, or really any other Westerner can look at Iran and with any confidence say what the people want or don't want, I think it's crazy.

And so I think you kind of have to be humble about your ignorance. And we are largely ignorant of just about everything happening within Iraq, and its culture and its people.

GLENN: I -- I have to say, I think you're right on that.

Okay. So that's out.

What's the next thing?

SEAN: We kind of set aside regime change, probably not a great idea.

Another option is maybe economic incentives. Yeah, we know you don't want to be overthrown.

That's going to be a hard incentive to overcome. So you're going want to regime change insurance. Maybe we can bribe you out of it. All kinds of economic assurances. This and that.

The problem with Iran is they're sitting on oil, which is probably the most precious resource on earth. I don't think that works.

And so I think what we're left with is probably the Whack-a-Mole that's been going on for years. And I think the nation that's probably best sighted to deal with that Whack-A-Mole. They're the ones at risk.

Iran can't reach us here in the US. They don't have the ballistic missile capability. They're not a direct military threat to us.

They're clearly a military threat to our friends and allies in the Middle East.

And so I think the least worst option is probably Israel doing what it does, every five to ten years, and going and trying to degrade their ability to mechanically make the stuff.

Wait to see what happens, do it again over and over. But to me, that's a regional issue.

And, yes, there are allies. And, yes, they're our friends.

But it's far more consequential to them, than it is to us. And so I have no problem with them, doing what they need to do, to address the threats to them.

GLENN: So I'm with you, 100 percent so far.

Now, I'm very -- you know, we're the only ones with the bunker buster that can get into that.

What does that go down, 12 stories?

20 stories, underground.

Can destroy anything with a 20-story footprint, underground.

We're the only ones that have it. It has to be dropped from one of our planes.

And I'm very uncomfortable with that. Very uncomfortable. I mean, you know what, you want to buy the bunker buster? I'll sell it to you. But you got to drop it.

Once we put that on our plane, and we drop it, aren't we then part of the war?

SEAN: Right. And that -- like I said, that might be the least worse option to the extent that we have to be involved.

GLENN: Yes.

SEAN: When it comes to foreign policy. I think a lot about what Mike Tyson says.

That everybody has a plan until you get punched in the face. Once you go and drop a bomb on someone, once you engage in offensive military capabilities. Now, you may rhetorically say, well, it's preemptively defensive. It's an offensive move, whenever you bomb another country.

You are creating the conditions for all kinds of chaos. Who knows how they're going to respond?

Maybe they're rational. They understand, look, we will have to take this one on the chin.

We don't want to fight with the US.

We don't want to fight with Israel. We will have to deal with it.

And maybe they decide. Hey, we were in the middle of negotiations. We thought we were trying to get somewhere.

And if they're going to do this stuff with us, then to heck with this.

We will just unleash hell. That can happen.

Now, I don't know if it will. It's probably less likely to end up taking it.

But it's a possibility. Whenever you go and punch somebody in the face, you now have to deal with the consequences of how they will respond.

GLENN: All right. Back with more in just a second. Can you stay with me for just a few more minutes, Sean?

SEAN: Of course.

GLENN: Before we go to back to Sean, Jason, I had to look up in the break, preemptive strikes.

Is that something new?

Because I know that's -- my age, maybe.

I remember, I don't remember people saying, we have to preemptively strike, more than when it -- when the nukes started coming. And that's when everybody was like, you have to do it before you get one.

Is this a new thing? Or has this been going on forever?

JASON: I want to start out with saying, I'm so glad for Sean in having this conversation.

Because it is sorely needed right now.
It's so bad.

There's a weird irony with preemptive or preventive strikes.

Because the first modern preventive strike, looking at the Cold War era was the start of the six-day war.

When Egypt blockaded Israel, amassed 100,000 troops in Israel.

GLENN: Wow.

JASON: Did the first modern preemptive strike. If they would not have, they would not be here right now.

It's another coal in the fire really.

What is the red line --

GLENN: Sean, what is the red line?

Is there a red line?

SEAN: For us. Or for Israel?

GLENN: You know, any society. Is there a red line?

I think the answer for Israel is a lot sooner than ours.

But is there such a thing as a red line, to go first, and preemptively strike?

I'm sure there is. I'm sure there is.

It's so situational, that I would have a hard time saying right now, this is a red line, that satisfies all conditions for all nations.

GLENN: How about just for Israel?

Red line?

SEAN: For Israel, I would think it would be a delivery mechanism and the actual developed warhead. That's probably what I would look at. Can this immunization at this moment, deliver a nuclear warhead to us right now?

That's what I would say is the red line.

But, you know what, I have not had a country trying to wipe me off the earth for, you know, the last 80 years, 75 years.

GLENN: 5,000.

SEAN: Right.

But hard for me, just given my position, to know exactly what their -- I would say, it's probably close to the same thing.

An ability to attack the US people. Now, you'll hear from the Pentagon and people saying, well, they can hurt our troops in the region.

My view is, well, that's probably a good reason to not be meddling in the regions all the time. Because --

GLENN: Hmm. Hmm.

Sean, thank you so much. What a great conversation.

I really appreciate it. Thank you for being reasonable, rational. And allowing people to disagree.

And learn from our disagreements. Thank you, Sean. Appreciate it.

JASON: You're very gracious. Thank you, sir.

GLENN: You bet. The CEO of the Federalist.

Sean Davis.

Will Trump HIT Iran with a “bunker buster” bomb?

Will President Trump get America involved in Israel’s war with Iran by helping drop a “bunker buster” bomb on Iran’s main nuclear facility? Would that cross a red line? Glenn Beck asks House Foreign Affairs Committee member, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, who explains why she believes such debates are pointless right now. Plus, Rep. Luna addresses a 1980s CIA "playbook" that exposes a strategy to "set off riots and destabilize governments."

Transcript

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GLENN: Representative Anna Paulina Luna is joining us now.

Congresswoman from the great state of Florida. You guys are kicking it, down in Florida.

I mean, you really -- you're making Texas look bad, quite honestly. But thanks for coming on.

ANNA: Thanks, Glenn. I would like to say, we're leading the nation not just in politics, but also the White House. So happy to be here.

GLENN: Yeah. All right. I have to ask you a little bit, about are we going to war? What's happening? Is this negotiation? What does your gut tell you on this?

ANNA: My gut is telling me, that we're not intervening. And based on the president's statement, he is still rightfully so, urging everyone to negotiate. Right now, he's definitely been very open about this.

But I don't want to -- what I will tell you, in the last 24 to 48 hours, I have seen so much disinformation circulating on the internet. Well, a lot of it not coming from security that is in the states, so I will tell everyone. That don't jump to conclusions, don't read into anything, that senator Lindsey Graham is saying or any other members of Congress, that are speculating, that there will be direct intervention. In fact, the White House just yesterday via Alex Sipher on X posted that the military is not intervening. We're simply defending our own. And so what I will tell Americans is first and foremost, President Trump has not changed his position on foreign policies. If he wanted to strike, he would have done it by now. So everyone needs to pray for him. Pray for our country. Pray for the millions in both Iran and Israel right now, and let the process play out.

GLENN: Can you tell me, do you think it's a red line to send over a bomber with one bomb?

Is that -- does that drag us into war?

Or is that just helping?

ANNA: I would say, as of right now, we need to not speculate, but continue to back the White House's position.

Because I think if I were to speculate on where the red line is, I don't think it helps.

I do think that our allies and adversaries are looking to see the members of Congress are doing. I will back the White House's position currently. Which is defending our service members and not intervening --

GLENN: It is. I'm so glad to hear you say that. That is exactly what I just said on the air. Just about three minutes ago.

ANNA: Oh, really?

GLENN: I said, yeah. The world is watching. You don't think the mullahs aren't watching everything that is said on X. You know, we must used to have these conversations where it was global. We're now in a global atmosphere.

And they're watching all of us.

And we can't eat ourselves up. Or they will -- if he's telling the truth.

I think a good negotiator, never bluffs. And he has to back it up.

You know, 60 days. You don't want to see what happens on day 61.

He wasn't bluffing.

And if they think, that we are eating ourselves, alive, they're more likely to go, no.

You know what, go ahead. Go ahead.

It's a really bad thing.

ANNA: What I will say, it's definitely a litmus test for our country right now. You're seeing a lot of people, jumping to conclusions. What I will tell you, there's only a very select few that fully understand what's happening in the situation room.

That's the president, his team, and it's left up there to you. What I will tell you, don't read in, don't speculate. And also too don't jump to conclusions.

Again, in the last 48 hours, I went online. I put out information, because I saw so much information circulating. Something that was said by Kash Patel. His CCP has engaged in basically election engineering. We just saw that in the 2020 election cycle.

They just got busted. This also comes on the tail end of these riots that are absolutely being hunted by the CCP. Neville Singham getting lots of money from them.

And it doesn't stop there.

We saw there was an -- so what I would say is that, you know, I'm partially inclined to think some of these accounts that are attacking the president, are foreign policy positions right now.

Are coming from China. Everything that we're seeing. Three times, that they've done things.

So we have to stick together. It's not, Democrat versus Republican right now. It's America, and fighting for Western civilization.

And so we need to make sure that we're very responsible about our commentary right now.

GLENN: Very good. Very good.

Can we talk a little bit about the -- let's start with Neville Singham.

The guy is -- he is an operative for the CCP. And he is pouring tons of money. And no one in the mainstream media, wants to talk about it.

They just -- oh, that's ridiculous. No, it's not.

Can you give us some information on --

ANNA: Yeah. Of course. So it's not ridiculous. In fact, there's a lot of money -- money at least back to Neville Singham. And I actually look at credit where it's due. So I was on X. And came across this account called Data Republican, and she actually pulled the money trail right to Singham. He also lives part time in Shanghai, China, and he's not registered as a foreign agent.

And so I was able to talk to Comer, and every single member of oversight after seeing the evidence that was presented, actually sent a letter, signed off on it, not just to Neville Singham, but also, to AG Bondi to also request an investigation.

And so what I will tell you is that this should have been done during BLM in Congress back then.

It was not. This needs to be replicated moving forward with everybody else who is engaging, who is not a registered foreign agent in this country.

Also, funding riots like this. In some instances have been acts of terrorism.

And so right now, it's not just a playbook for Neville Singham. We're also -- this is also up to Comer. Because Comer has subpoena authority. Whether or not he will send his subpoena to George Soros, which I've urged him to do.

Even though, Neville Singham is a Marxist and Soros is a globalist, but their end objective is, again, to dismantle the United States.

And so we're basically being hit from both sides right now.

GLENN: I am so -- it is so refreshing.

I mean, I've been talking about this stuff for 20 years.

It's so refreshing. Finally, to have some people step up, and present this in a credible way, in Congress.

And to the -- attorney general et cetera, et cetera.

You know, you had the playbook from 1983. From the CIA.

And this is -- you know, I think it was two or three years ago.

No. It was in 2019 or 2020.

I did a special on the -- you know, the Colour Revolutions.

And how there was the CIA playbook that was out.

And it looks exactly like what is happening here in the United States. I said -- I said, at the time, here's what's coming. And it's all here.

It -- where are you taking this?

And is there anybody, that, you know, can -- can stop this?

Because this -- we are -- we're using CIA tactics on ourself.

ANNA: Well, I would say, the CCP is using this against us.

Right now, just first and foremost.

Yes. We can stop it.

We have to go after the money stream. And I actually also found out via the data Republican.

That $270 million in the USAID fund, was issued to George Soros' NGOs prior to Biden getting out of office.

President Trump can stop that, sending a letter via executive order because Congress is moving very slow.

That's I think a separate conversation.

But we can stop the money streams. And if we don't do anything, though. If we don't do the investigations.

If we don't say, you cannot do this in our country, you're also, by the way, guilty of violating foreign agent registration, the Foreign Registration app, the FAR app. It's just going to continue happening.

So we have to do the due diligence on this.

And if not, every single member of oversight signed off on that.

And to Chairman Comer's credit, he will be playing ball with Singham. So it's going to happen.
It's just, When will it happen?

So the time line, it's possibly indicated on Friday. We're waiting for a response.

He's going to be called to testify.

We are looking at all transaction records.
That's the first thing. The second thing, I want to give some people hope. I actually know Director Radcliffe over at the CIA.

And the CIA back then, remember, there's both good and bad people at the intelligence agencies.

And to their credit, the people that he has appointed, actually are a people like you and I.

And so they are doing their best to weed out this corruption at the agencies. And so what's really been brilliant in all of this.

Kash Patel is also following up on these money trails, to see what outside foreign influences are engaging in this Colour Revolution here in the United States, and he's dropping that information now. So in previous administrations, this might not have happened.

But in this one, they're stopping it, and it's because of social media and kudos to Elon Musk, that we were able to get the information in time, in regards to the No Kings protest, who is funding that.
In regards to potential insider packets that were going to frame conservatives. Frame Republicans.

We are seeing this all unfold in real time. I will tell you, Hispanic Americans, specifically, are not used as pawns. So when you have basically BLM 2.0 happening right now at these ICE riots, and you realize that these are actually largely ANTIFA that are going to be questioned. They're why they're not Hispanic. They're not immigrant.

They have no ties to the communities, and they're simply interning, you know, Mexican flags or BLM flags. That doesn't bode well in the community.

Remember, Hispanic Americans are largely voted for in favor for President trump.

So there is hope. But you can't sit on your hands. You have to get active, you have to get engaged, and you have to be telling people that.

GLENN: You know, for years, I've been angry at the billionaires on the right. That have just not stepped up to the plate.

I really, I suspected with the tides foundation and then with Biden and you all of these green new deals, and everything going on. That money was being funneled off the top.

And then as soon as we appointed DOGE. I said, oh, my gosh. The money is coming from us.

Then he started to find him. That is so critically important. Are we going to stop that funding?

ANNA: Well, yes. And so that's what we've been doing with some of these rescission packages at the White House, that has authorized. We have to move quickly. And we have to be more aggressive with it.

I will tell you, remember, I think just in general, sometimes people can be lazy.

And so what I've been telling people, is you have no idea, the level of personal sacrifice, that Elon really took on.

From taking on DOGE. Especially going after USAID. Which is just like a pot of just corrupt nonsense.

He actually just released, as we were about to call in. He released drug testing results. He had himself drug testing. Because they were saying, he was doing all this crazy stuff.

And he wasn't. Right? They've attacked companies. They literally used his personal family matters in the press. And then they tried to drag a wedge between him and the president.

So what I will tell you is, it's not just him. It's any member of Congress of the Senate. You saw what happened with the president. They tried to assassinate him twice.

Okay?

So if you take this on, the American people need to back these people up.

Because it's not like we're taking it on, because we, you know, want to have our personal lives and our family members put on the line here.

It's because it's the right thing to do. And if we don't do it, who will?

You have to really make sure, everyone sitting together. Remember, look out for the disinformation campaign.

And keep supporting people who do the right went.

Because we need more of them.

GLENN: Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna.

Congresswoman, thank you.

JEFFY: Thanks Glenn.

GLENN: You bet. We'll talk again.