Why Boeing Should NOT Be Blamed for Plane Malfunctions
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Why Boeing Should NOT Be Blamed for Plane Malfunctions

Is Boeing to blame for all the airplane malfunctions we’ve heard about recently? Or is there another culprit? Glenn recalls a conversation he recently had with a pilot who was tired of the federal government putting all the blame on Boeing. Instead, he argued, it’s the federal inspectors who certify the planes and a lack of pilot training, especially outside of America, that should be called out. But do other pilots agree? Is this yet another example of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg’s accidental or intentional incompetence? Glenn hears from members of his audience who have experience in the aviation industry and their answer was pretty clear …

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GLENN: Okay. Yesterday, I had a good friend come up to me. And he said to me, Glenn, I can't take the news on Boeing anymore.

And I said, why is that? And he said, well, you know, I was a pilot. And I said, that's right. For American pilots. For years.

He said, yes. So I kind of know something about the airline industry. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

And he said, aren't all planes that come from Boeing, don't they receive a final check?

Yes. Don't they also receive a final check, from the government, when -- when there is a -- when the plane comes in, and before it flies, do they not certify that, yeah. That plane is -- yeah. Now, whose job would that be.

By the way, when you buy a plane, and the screws are loose, you would think somebody that was signing off, would be held responsible, for I didn't see the screws.

Right? Once a plane comes down, they -- they have to check the plane. And if you saw some loose screws, then that would probably be, you know, the maintenance guy that would be like. Where is the maintenance guy that was supposed to check the screws?

He said, also, we have a minimum requirement sheet.

Like, if the engine falls off, well, we have another one.

So we can still fly it to land it, okay?

He said, it's like a door of a panel falls off, he said, we can still fly the plane.

We can still fly the plane. He said, we have a little checklist. Like if this goes wrong, that's trouble. If a panel falls off, eh, a panel falls off. We just adjust a little bit. We're fine.

STU: I mean, if you're on the ground, you might not be shrugging your shoulders as much. But generally speaking, the plane can keep going.

GLENN: Right. Right. And he said, panels from time to time will fall off. He said, but what I'm thinking is, there's a problem with maintenance, which would be a problem with the unions.

Because nobody has personal pride of ownership anymore.

And he said, so is it maintenance, is it -- is it the -- the press, that is -- is looking at all these things, and don't understand, that there's also an inspector that signs off on the plane.

That's an interesting -- because I believe that brings us back, to Pete Buttigieg.

STU: What a surprise.

GLENN: What a surprise. What a surprise.

STU: So is the theory basically, that Boeing is getting unfair blame on this?

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

It could be -- he's not saying they're innocent.

But he is saying, they're getting way more than their share of blame for this.

STU: Right. It's easy for you to point your fingers at them.

GLENN: Yeah. You got a panel. You have to screw the panel back on. You're inside, and doing something in maintenance with the panel. You've got to screw the panel back on.

STU: Right. They did come with all the descries loose, right? That would be weird.

GLENN: Right. And, you know, you check for screws.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: When you're on the ground, doing maintenance. You kind of give it a once over. And then the inspector looks for those kinds of things.

STU: Right. Now, obviously, part of this is because they had the issues with, you know, the one plane that they brought into -- everyone was using.

Was it -- the Air Max?

Yeah. Yeah. That -- on the -- on the heels of that. Right?

GLENN: But he said. He said, that doesn't make sense to him.

And I didn't -- he started talking, you know, airplane physics. And I don't think there's any physics that actually make a plane fly.

It's too heavy.

STU: Could you even keep your eyes open during this.

GLENN: No. I did.

I just couldn't understand it. He said, Boeing, for more fuel efficiency. He said, they're more powerful engines. And they lifted them. So they didn't suck a bunch of stuff from the ground. Okay?

So they lifted them higher.

He said, and when you go into a steeper incline, he said, that causes -- I don't know what you call it, but a wobble that hits your tail. Okay?

And he said, we've trained for that for 50 years. He said, there's no -- there's no excuse for an American pilot to have any problems with that.

STU: Right. These were foreign incidents.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: Right.

GLENN: Right. So he said, that's not -- that's a training problem. That's not a Boeing problem. That's a training problem.

STU: Hmm.

That's interesting. Well, that's not surprising that an institution would be taken down by the media. You know, maybe with a little bit of undeserved some, at least, undeserved.

GLENN: Maybe. I don't know. I don't know.

I would love to talk -- if you're a pilot. I would love to hear from you.

Does that make sense to you?

GLENN: I want to take some calls from last hour, we were mentioning that had a pilot friend, come into me yesterday. Saying, Glenn, this is not Boeing's fault.

And his name was Ron Boeing. But no, he said, it's not Boeing -- it's not Boeing's fault. He said, I think it's the mechanic's fault. And he explained why.

But I wanted to hear from other airline pilots. This guy was a pilot for I don't even know. Thirty years. Forty years. At American Airlines. And he knew what he was talking about. I couldn't translate what he was talking about. But I wanted to know if there were any pilots that agreed. Whose fault is it?

Is it Boeing?

Is it the FAA.

Pete Buttigieg. Secretary of Transportation. Is it the airline? Is it the mechanics? Michael in Kansas, you're a pilot.

CALLER: That's correct. I am.

GLENN: Okay. Whose fault is it?

CALLER: I'm a retired captain with United.

GLENN: Okay.

CALLER: You know, it's an issue -- I think your American friend was on target. I think it's pretty good too, as far as, I think it's just sloppiness.

I have friends who are retired. Boeing actually.

And they said, you know, sometimes when they would see things wrong, they would raise a flag and say, this or that. And they would kind of ignore it. And they had this whistle-blower a while back, that was found dead in his car.

But there's things -- there's just been some things like that. That -- there's an awful lot about to go. A lot of airplanes out there. There's a lot of, you know, things wearing out. Whether they're newer or not. They're putting a lot of hours on these things. And they do need some good scrutiny. And I think it just falls through the cracks. But I don't think it's Boeing. Whether it's a lack of leadership at the top on the federal end to put the focus in the right place, or exactly what is going on there, but obviously we've got a problem.

GLENN: He was telling me about, what was it? The 777 Max. And he said, hmm, that problem is caused when you are coming up at a sharp angle. He said, it will cause some sort of a wind turbulence on the tail. And he said, in America, we train for that.

CALLER: Right. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I think, like you said, the accidents that have happened, especially like with the -- the 737 Max, I think that was 100 percent training.

GLENN: How come we haven't heard that?

CALLER: Or lack thereof? I don't know. Third world country, we don't want to make them look bad. I don't know.

GLENN: Wow. Instead, we'll blame everything on Boeing, and make it look like Boeing has gone bad.

I mean, everything I've seen from the news, has made Boeing look bad. And it wasn't is, until I started noticing.

No. It's a lot of united planes, that are having a problem.

That made me think. Well, maybe it's the culture at United, or the mechanics on the ground.

CALLER: Well, you know, whether it's actually -- it probably is somewhat of a culture. Whether it's the DEI-type culture, I couldn't honestly say.

But there is a -- there certainly is a culture, that leads you away from, you know, perfection.

GLENN: Yeah, right. Thank you so much, Michael. I appreciate it. In Florida, we go to Robert. Hi, Robert. You're a former airline captain or pilot.

CALLER: Oh, no, no, no, Glenn. Good morning. And, no, I'm a former mechanic out of the Air Force.

GLENN: Ah. Okay.

CALLER: I know this stuff a little bit, and it's the mechanic's fault. It's also the government, and then the airline if you really think about it. That's where you take it that one step further. The FAA issues a license to the mechanic, that if the mechanic does something wrong, it's supposed to be on him as far as getting that license taken away. And if they're not doing that, they're just letting that slide, that's a problem. Like, I wouldn't get on an airplane right now.

GLENN: Yeah. It's an interesting -- it's an interesting time to fly.

STU: Right.

GLENN: We're pretty sure we'll get you there. Where we were on -- you mean, on time?

CALLER: No, we're just pretty sure we will get you there.

STU: Feel great -- I have several flights scheduled next week, and mechanics are calling me up and saying, hey, don't get on flights. Great.

GLENN: Thanks a lot, Robert. Dawn in Tennessee. Hello, Dawn.

CALLER: Hey, Glenn. Yeah, I agree with your previous caller. I'm a retired Air Force mechanic. And that's -- he's correct.

So these guys get airframe and power plant licenses from the FAA. And through a lot of the experience, you know, to get those tickets. To learn how to work on airplanes.

And I -- I agree with them. I think it's complacency.

And I also think it's the airlines, probably trying to get those airplanes back up in the air, as soon as possible.

You know, because they got, you know, routes that they have to fly.

And these guys are probably under pressure to fix those airplanes, as fast as possible.

And quality is slipping through the cracks.

GLENN: So, Don, why is Boeing getting the blame?

CALLER: Well, Boeing, because they're the manufacturer. They're the ones who actually create the airplane.

But as your previous caller said. Once -- once Boeing delivers the airplane to you to United Delta, American, whoever. It's on the airline at this point. I don't know why Boeing is -- I mean, they're the one that's easy to pick on. They're the person that built the airplane. But all those big maintenance hangars at Dallas/Fort Worth for American and Delta and Atlanta. Those are all -- those are all Delta employees.

And they are the ones who are fixing those airplanes. I think when it goes back to the manufacturers. When you have -- is when you have problems that recur. You know, you have trims. If you see the same thing happening over and over and over again. Then you go back and say, okay. We need to do a trend analysis. But these are isolated stuff. The wheels falling off. A door coming loose. Stupid things like that, that's sloppy maintenance, I think, on the mechanic's side. And that's an airline issue, which is what your friend told you.

GLENN: Hmm. Thank you so much, Don. John in Pennsylvania.

Hello, John.

CALLER: Hi, Glenn.

GLENN: Hi. Are you a pilot, a mechanic, what are you?

CALLER: I'm a retired pilot. Retired pilot. Regional airline level, and then I spent my last three and a half years at American Airlines. I'm agreeing with all the other pilots that have spoken. And it basically gets down to the floor of the maintenance hangar, as to the workers that are doing the work.

And these guys are certified. The mechanics are certified. And they go through a certification process, once the work is done. Sign off on the maintenance issues and everything else.

To say it's an airline fault, is true about trying to get the airplanes back and be rushed on that.

GLENN: Right. To blame Boeing, or to blame Boeing. I can't blame Boeing. And the MCAS system, which is what people are talking about.
737 Max.

You know, that's -- that was a system, that the domestic airlines, not just -- none of my airlines ever had any issues with that system. And/or fatalities, associated with it.

GLENN: John, thank you so much.

And it's crazy. That's exactly what my friend said. You know, you thought, how could Boeing design an airline -- an airplane, and have it that far out of whack.

That when you started to lift, it would fail on you.

And my friend said yesterday, that -- that -- that's because they're not trained.

He said, in America, we train.

That is something, he said -- we've been training for 50 years, on that.

And he said, it's not hard to correct. You just have to know. So why is Boeing getting that rap? Remember, they went through the software and everything else. No! It was the pilots weren't trained.

That's nuts. That's nuts. I mean, is somebody trying to kill Boeing?

STU: I mean, and every piece of the administration is echoing this.

We played the Buttigieg clip earlier.

But like, it's all focused on Boeing, and how bad Boeing is.

GLENN: Right, I haven't heard anything about the mechanics. I've heard people bring up United. And I think United is responsible for the mechanics, but you don't hear any of that.

STU: Sure. It's weird, especially because of how vitally important Boeing is to our economy. Like this is not just some little fly-by-night operation. They get taken down, and they are losing ground against their competitors, which there are only a couple.

GLENN: Yes. Let's go to line 11. And Jeff in Michigan. Hello, Jeff.

CALLER: Hello, how are you doing?

GLENN: Very good. How are you?

CALLER: All right. I think it's a multi-blame. Boeing on the design. MCAS is that with the Boeing design. They have an aerospace engineer, in addition to being retired airline pilot.

You go and look at that. The way they designed it. They shortcut stuff to save money.

But once it gets to the airline, and you have things falling off airplanes. Then it becomes a -- a maintenance issue. And that's where the -- you know, the blame lies. But the bottom line is, it's all about money.

MCAS was designed so that they could save money in getting away with introducing a new airplane, as a derivative. Where they didn't get it completely certificated with the new engine. That they would have to raise the airplane up. So they had to put on new gear, maybe a new wing. So they shortcut that. And then in production, you know, with the holes and that they filled up.

With the door plus. That sort of thing.
That's a production issue. Again, saving money. They outsource it.

And so it's not done as well as well as it should be. Once you get to the airlines. There's a very thin line between profit and loss with that.

GLENN: Sure.

CALLER: So they shortcut things to try and get stuff done as well.

GLENN: Is the FAA or -- I don't know.

Is the FAA under secretary of transportation?

I would assume it is.

Is the FAA responsible for certifying any of this stuff?

CALLER: Oh, yeah. The FAA is -- I've worked for -- alpha safety for a long time.

What I call the airline pirates association now for another reason.

They have a schizophrenic mission. They have to promote flying, at the same time they're enforcing rules. So they're kind of getting pulled in two different directions when they're doing this, and if you don't have the proper administrator over it, making sure that they're doing both jobs, then you're under a problem.

GLENN: All right. Jeff, thank you so much.

Doesn't that sound like maybe we wouldn't have the right person, in the federal position of like, hey, got to get the planes up.

But you also have to make sure that they're safe. You know. For some reason, I don't have a lot of confidence in the leadership of this administration.

No.

STU: No?

GLENN: No. I know. This is probably me.

STU: It's fascinating.

This is -- I've been thinking a lot about this. Because I'm mentioning. I'm going on flights next week. I'm working on a documentary for Blaze originals about air traffic control and the changes that have been going on within it.

And they're not comforting. It doesn't -- they're like, hey, can you take a flight, to do this interview? No! I'll drive!

GLENN: Wait. I've done all this research, and it shows that this is really not a good plan. And now you want me to fly there?

STU: Right. No!

Will Iran’s Attack on Israel Lead to NUCLEAR WAR?
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Will Iran’s Attack on Israel Lead to NUCLEAR WAR?

Over the weekend, Iran launched over 300 missiles and drones at Israel. But in a response that could only be seen as “miraculous,” Israel’s defense systems neutralized 99% of the attack. However, the world might have been a very different place if even a third of those missiles had hit their targets. Former Department of Defense intelligence analyst Jason Buttrill joins Glenn to lay out just how close we were to global nuclear war. So, is there still a chance that this will lead to World War III? Will Israel retaliate? And can Iran even respond a second time? The guys break it all down.

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GLENN: So yesterday, Israel, Iran attacked over the weekend, and it was a significant attack.

JASON: Yeah. You know that scene in war games, where it shows all these missiles. That's what it looked like. It was insane. 350 missiles. Missiles drones. All that. It was --

GLENN: So significant attack. They are launching the missiles, some of them into space. Did we get the video in yet?

JASON: Should.

GLENN: Of the -- what do they call this? The C Dome? I think.

They have the Iron Dome.

JASON: Oh, it's it is Arrow System.

GLENN: Watch this. Watch this. If you're watching TheBlaze. There.

STU: Fireworks.

GLENN: That is -- I feel like a million voices were all screaming and then suddenly silenced. That is a hit in space.

JASON: Exoatmospheric.

GLENN: So that's the Arrow system, going up out of the atmosphere into space, and hitting a missile as it's starting to come back in.

I mean, it's one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. And I think this is the first time it was ever captured on film, right?

JASON: This was the third interception in space. The others were last year, when the Houthis launched Iranian missiles against Israel. So just the weapon technology involved this weekend is nuts.

GLENN: So 99 percent, 99 percent of these missiles will tell you what was going on, but the biggest thing you need to know is, we could have very easily been in World War III today.

I think because of the Arrow missile system, which is a joint project between us and Israel, that really, truly saved the day. If these 300 missiles would have struck the ground, it would have been world war.

Absolutely world war.

JASON: Oh, if a quarter of these missiles actually got through. We're having a completely different conversation right now.

GLENN: Please tell us we have the Arrow system here.

JASON: I don't think we do. It was the second half of the development for that. So it's also an American.

We have dibs on it. We have our own system that is kind of pre-deployed on naval ships all around the world, so we do have the same capability.

GLENN: That's the Aegis System, right? That's not shooting things from in space.

JASON: It is. I don't remember. There's two parts of it. I don't remember the second part of it.

GLENN: The Aegis System on ships, is just a buttload of bullets, coming out.

I mean, it's just -- it's just round after round. Big butt of bullets.

JASON: Yeah. It's called a BLB. Buttload of bullets. Military technology.

GLENN: Yeah.

JASON: It was more than just the Arrow system. To try to get the scope of this. You have to look at the graphic of this. Submitted. Of where all this ordinance was coming from.

Yemen. Iraq. Iran. Lebanon. All converging on multiple different fronts. All down on Israel.

They have a three-pronged system. The further one out, is the arrow two and three system.

GLENN: That's the one shooting in space.

JASON: That's the one that can reach up and touch you in space. The second one is David's Sling. That shoots lower -- yeah, I know. They have such cooler names than ours does. That shoots like cruise missiles or like missiles that are flying low to the ground. And then you have the Iron Dome, which everyone is talking about.

All of those things were firing all at once, going on over the weekend. But you also had Israeli planes, going up and firing on cruise missiles, way the heck out there. Then you had US planes, and planes from the UK.

All of this converging in the skies, over the weekend.

GLENN: So is it that Iran's missiles suck so much?

Or is this as amazing as it sounds?

JASON: It's as amazing as it sounds.

So these are current generation weaponry that we're talking about. Iran is exporting some of this weaponry, giving it to Russia, to Russia can attack Ukraine. This is amazing.

99 percent success rate, does not happen. It doesn't. So, I mean, granted there was great technology here.

But I think there's some God work going on as well.

GLENN: I was going to say, isn't there Scriptures, when the whole world goes to attack.

That God just protects. It's like a dome over Israel.

JASON: Yeah. Yeah. It was so effective, that I think that Iran probably is rethinking some of their first strike strategy against Israel.

Now, you know they've all gamed this out.

And I'm sure, part of this attack, that goes into their plans. Like, they know that they want to take out Israel. If they had to, what do they need?

Well, they threw everything, but the ayatollah's kitchen sink at Israel oar the weekend.

GLENN: I think I was flying. I think I saw does that hit the ground.

JASON: They probably used that too.

GLENN: With the disposal, which is weird.

So if you would have had one of these nuclear-tipped. It -- I mean, so you -- so all of that work for a nuclear weapon. You ain't going to deposit it through a missile. Right?

Wouldn't that be the message that Iran would get?

JASON: You're not now.

Yeah. I don't. This sent Iraq back, I'm sure. Probably several years, as far as whatever their eventually goal is.

And that right there, is the problem. Because we know, they won't stop. So when you're saying, you know, when everyone is like pleading with her.

When Biden was pleading with Bibi over the weekend, to don't retaliate. On the one hand, I'm like, yeah.

Because I don't want to see the Middle East completely change overnight.

GLENN: It's not just that.

If they retaliate, Iran has the ability to set Europe and America on fire in the streets. And that's only a matter of time, before it happens. But I don't know.

I would like to delay it as long as possible.

JASON: But if you're Israel. Look at the overall picture here.

They're surrounding them. Look at the graphic of where all the missiles are coming from.

Israel is surrounded.

The strategy now. International community. Israel just keep your walls.

Just keep your walls up, and you will be safe. When has that ever worked, in military history?

Never. Constantinople. Greece. Troy. Pick your time. Your walls are an illusion. They will keep you safe, for a limited amount of time. But the eventual goal of an invading army is to topple those walls. That's Iran's plan.

So how long do you delay? And if they decide -- and Iran says, they're not delaying anymore. That is when the entire region changes forever.

They've been playing this little proxy war for 40 years.

GLENN: This is the first time, that they have, not used a proxy. Right? No proxy, it was Iran.

And so I saw -- and honestly, I thank God, that we are pausing at least. You know what I mean?

Because this will escalate into a world war that fast.

Just, everything in me says, once the Middle East is set on fire, Russia and Ukraine, and everything else, it's just going to be you. Just dominoes.

Because if the Middle East is on fire, and Iran is losing, which they would.

They're just setting all of our countries on fire, you know, internally.

So I was glad to see the pause. However, I was a little disturbed, that the news came out from the White House. Because that should have come out from the Prime Minister's office in Israel. But instead, Joe Biden calls Bibi Netanyahu. Who apparently, the war ministry, all voted to retaliate. And then Joe Biden called and said, hey. We won't support you.

Tonight -- don't do it. Don't retaliate. That's what the White House is saying, and so Bibi changed his mind. Well, gee. Thanks for backing me into a corner. I mean, it might be a corner I like to be in. But that's not the way you deal with an ally, is it?

JASON: No. How they're dealing with this all across-the-board, is what you're not supposed to do. This attack happened because of the Biden administration's overall foreign policy in the Middle East.

GLENN: You think?

JASON: When you refuse to stand up to their proxy, Hamas. When you coddle them as they have, things like this happen. When you give billions of dollars back to Iran. When you try to go back into the JCPO, nuclear agreement with them. When you're doing everything possible, to say, let's play nice. Let's play nice. When you have refused to stand up to a bully, this is the type of crap that happens. And I'm not saying that we go off and militarily attack them. There is a formula for dealing with this.

It was actually working. The Abraham Accords are happening. When you abandon them. This is the kind of crap that happens.

GLENN: But when you're having the possibility of Trump getting back in, and quelling all of this. I just want to make it to, you know, January, in case he wins. If he doesn't win, I mean, we're just going to keep seeing more and more of this.

You're right. It is our policies. We are weak. We don't command any respect. And honestly, we're on the other side.

We're giving money to Iran. So our tax dollars went to Iran. And to Israel.

So you could feel good on April 15th today. You paid for both sides of this.

STU: What do you guys make of the really strange way this all unfolded.

It was like, hey! Drones are going to be there in a few hours. They're all coming.

GLENN: I think that is. That is -- and correct me if I'm wrong, Jason.

You would know more than I would.

I think that was the signal from Iran.

Hey. We're going to do this.

STU: Right.

GLENN: We're going to -- because otherwise, you surprise.

Hey, surprise!

But they let Israel.

STU: Israel did.

GLENN: Yeah. They telegraphed it. Let Israel know.

Prepare your people for this. And then we will stop.

And that gives -- that gives the Israelis an opportunity to say, okay.

Well, we stopped you. Don't do it again.

STU: Because their statement right after. Hey. By the way, that's the end of this.

Wait until you know. That's what we're doing.

The matter is settled.

JASON: Concluded.

STU: Yeah. They're trying to say to our people. Hey. We did something.

To Israel, hey, we told you it was coming. You blocked it all.

Let's just call it a draw. Now, Israel, of course, gets the win here. They wiped out important military officials, and people they really wanted to target in Syria.

And they stopped the entire attack from Iran.

I mean, it's a massive escalation. No way of denying that. Maybe there's a chance for us to avoid a real inflammation of our entire region.

GLENN: I think we did. I think we did.

STU: You think it's over? Netanyahu said, it's going back for years.

GLENN: It's going to go back to terror now. The missiles are over.

STU: I mean, Netanyahu said, he wants to basically go after Iran directly.

He believes they're doing all this --

GLENN: Wow, they are the head of the state. They are the problem.

STU: It's true.

JASON: It's all up to Israel's response now.

GLENN: So you don't believe. So you don't believe, they are finished. Because -- according to the White House. They're done.

JASON: I think that's what Israel is juggling right now. Because it was heavily telegraphed. Iran told Turkey they were going to do this attack. And Turkey transmitted it to us.

GLENN: Let me take a quick break. And then I want to come back. Because I want to lack at this from the Israeli point of view.

I'm in addition they're stopped.

But if I'm an Israeli, I'm like, go get them now.

They've just blown everything that they have most likely. Let's go get them, while they're weak. We can overthrow them.

Why Megyn Kelly is “DISGUSTED” by New York’s Criminal Trump Trial
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Why Megyn Kelly is “DISGUSTED” by New York’s Criminal Trump Trial

The hush money trial of Donald Trump has begun — the first criminal trial ever against a former president — and Megyn Kelly is “disgusted” by it. “The United States of America DOESN’T do this,” she tells Glenn. But will Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg actually throw Trump in jail? Megyn explains why she doesn’t believe so, but she also debates whether a criminal conviction will help or hurt Trump in the November election.

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GLENN: Megyn Kelly, welcome to the program.

How are you, Megyn?

MEGYN: Hi, Glenn. Good to see you. How are you doing?

GLENN: What's going to happen this time? Are they going to get him this time?

MEGYN: They're going to get him. And I don't know about you. You can kind of laugh at it. And kind of absurd. But now that it's -- I mean, the first criminal trial of Donald Trump has just begun. They're in the courtroom.

The witnesses will be called eventually, after they pick the jury.

And they're going to try to put this guy behind bars, potentially.

They're 100 percent taking their best shot at stopping him from winning this race. And it really, for me as a lawyer, it's been very sobering morning.

I'm just disgusted.

I cannot believe we're doing this.

I -- it's like -- it's like Princess Diana behaving like a straight whore. That's what we're doing. The United States doesn't do this. And because we're in the hands of this scummy prosecutor. Multiple. It's not just Alvin Bragg, but he's the lead on this.

We've gone down this road, pretending a payment to a porn star, who is threatening to expose an affair, is a crime that warrants 34 counts. And they're going to make it as sleazy as humanly possible.

We're going to hear about David Pecker, who ran the national inquirer, owned AMI Media, and to bury negative stories on Trump and to inflate stories on Hillary.

Great. I can't wait to hear about Fusion GPS. Was Trump the only one trying to get dirt printed on his opponent.

That's what this jury will be left with. He worked with dirty magazines to get Hillary painted as fact. And unwell.

And without talking about how his campaign was spied on. She's been trying to get him impeached or thrown in jail, along with President Obama, for years.

Politics is disgusting and dirty and underhanded. And we wish it weren't so.

But guess what, it's so. Welcome to America.

And never before, have we put somebody on trial. Antics around it. Or a man on trial, for not screaming from the rooftops, I paid off a porn star, so she didn't humiliate me with my wife.

We're embarrassing ourselves with this trial. I feel appropriately disgusted.

GLENN: What is the difference between this trial, and the trial that didn't happen, because I only lied about sex? You know, to save my marriage, to make sure I didn't humiliate my wife. That's basically why Donald Trump perjured himself. Or not Donald Trump. Bill Clinton perjured himself, and nothing happened there. Everybody just walked away. What's the difference between these two?

MEGYN: One is a Democrat. One is a Republican.

GLENN: That's what I thought. That's what I thought.

MEGYN: Yeah, if you're a Democrat, you can lie. Ask Fani Wilis, ask Nathan Wade. Fine. You can lie on the stand, under oath. Like Bill Clinton did.

It's okay. It's just -- oh, wait. That's what Trump was doing too, allegedly.

That's -- wait. He was lying to cover up an affair. In only one lane does it become a felony.
And just not to get too deep in the weeds, Glenn, but let's not forget what really is happening here is a misdemeanor bookkeeping snafu or error or just statement, that the statute of limitations has run on. They reinvigorated a dead claim, by saying, well, it was made to cover up an underlying felony, which was a campaign finance violation.

You made $130,000 donation, quote, unquote, to your own campaign by paying off Stormy Daniels to win an election.

Well, guess what, that's not a campaign finance violation. The only way you get the kind of campaign finance violation, is get the payment, who could only have been made for one purpose, and that is to help your campaign.

Well, guess what, again, hush payments have been made by men to shut women up since the dawn of time. It doesn't have to be to save one's campaign. And that is the relative legal test expect Alvin brag should know. It's the reason the feds were not interested in pursuing this claim against Donald Trump.

GLENN: Correct. So is it just a corrupt judge that is making all the -- because the judge should look at that and said, no. You can't do this?

MEGYN: Yeah. Yes. I mean, it's not just. Because we have Mr. Bragg. But, yeah. The judge say serious problem.

A nonpartisan judge would you have thrown this out in the papers. Pretty easily.

And I do believe there's a very good chance, this will ultimately, no matter what happens with the area. Get thrown out on appeal.

Like most of the prosecutions against Trump. Not the obstruction case. But the J6 case could get thrown out soon, actually. The Supreme Court throws out the obstruction charges. Other cases involve J6 defendants not Trump.

If the Supreme Court does anything on presidential immunity. And then if he loses that J6 case. If there's a trial. I think it can get thrown out on appeal.

But he has to go through the humiliation.

We -- we -- America have to go through the humiliation of this criminal trial first.

We just saw our former president dragged into a criminal courtroom today.

And in typical Trumpian fashion, he said, I'm proud to be here. I'm very proud to be here.

That's smart. Trump is smart. He always does it. Positive spin for anything that happens to him. Let's be honest. This is not a proud moment.

Not for him. Not for us.

GLENN: Not for his family.

MEGYN: I'm ashamed of us for doing this.

GLENN: So what do you say about Donald Trump, this is, you know, something that, you know, we would be disgusted by, if it was something that was happening on the other side? Bill Clinton comes to mind. That we as conservatives, would say, this guy, he shouldn't be doing this as president. But in the Clinton case, it was illegal. He perjured himself. But there -- there really isn't anything illegal here. And if it was, it's past the statute of limitations.

MEGYN: There's a difference between those two cases. Let me tell you, Glenn. No one is allowed to lie under oath. It's a felony. It's a felony. It's perjury.

GLENN: Correct.

MEGYN: And a lawyer really isn't allowed to lie under oath. You have additional duties of candor to a court, before they admit you into the bar. You swear not to do things like that. So there are additional obligations on a lawyer, which Clinton was.

And on top of that, there are additional obligations as president. He violated them all. He committed a felony. Donald Trump made a bookkeeping misstatement. That's what he did. And for that, he's being hauled into court.

There's just no comparison between the legal scent -- and, look, I don't have any doubt, Trump will be convicted.

And to be honest, I don't have any doubt that Trump did this. I'm not -- I don't really doubt, that Trump didn't write down the hush money, to Stormy Daniels. Porn star. Who is threatening to go to my wife and the media about an affair, I may have had. He probably did do that.

GLENN: Right. Well, there was another one he paid off, that it wasn't true.

So I mean we don't know. Right?

MEGYN: The doorman? Yeah. Well, that's another piece of the AMI media piece of this case, which hasn't gotten much attention. But it's going to, when I think you hear, David Pecker will take the stand. The guy who ran, and I owned it. He will take a stand. And say, yeah. We caught and killed stories, including from this Karen McDougal who was the 1998 playmate of the year, who allegedly had an affair with Trump.

And also took a payout from AMI, to write health columns, instead of take the story to a publication that would run with it. This is what the allegation is, that if you're a friend with Pecker, like Trump was, you could get this kind of thing done for you.

And that's what he was doing for Trump. And we will have with this testimony, to that effect. And that's -- okay.

Is anyone shocked, that Trump didn't want all his affairs come out? I don't care. I'm sure he has had affairs. I'm sure, you know what, I'm sure Obama did too. The sainted Obama. And I'm sure Bill Clinton did. And the only reason the Clinton thing became a story is because Linda Tripp cited it -- and go public with the story. Neither pair of the lovers wanted that public.

Linda Tripp brought it public, and then Bill Clinton, rather than being a man and owning up to it, lied under oath. We're back to that problem.

But this is just -- we shouldn't be knowing about any of this. We shouldn't be humiliating ourselves, and getting neck deep into the gory details of it. But the Democrats are going to be awash in -- in seedy Trump affair details, for the next six weeks.

And it's anything, but accidental.

GLENN: How do you think this plays with the American people?

MEGYN: I think they will be disgusted like him.

But unfortunately, I think the very group Trump is struggling with, women, former Republicans, in the suburbs, like where I live. They're not going to like this. You know, because most of our husbands don't cheat on us with porn stars and playmates of the years. And --

GLENN: Well, I would hope -- I would hope that it doesn't just -- we don't. Yeah. We're all cheating. But not necessarily with porn stars. And play boys.

STU: There's also so many playmates of the year. They would be way too busy if everybody were cheating.

GLENN: Yeah. Way too busy. I don't think most husbands cheat on their wives.

MEGYN: I don't think they do. So they're not going to like this. You can't forget MAGA. Those guys who are out in front of the White House now, amazing.

The pro-Trump guys with all their pro-Trump gear. And they're like the anti-Trump guys. Did you see the guy with the flute?

He hates Trump! Like liar. Narcissist. Felon. And then he's playing the lovely flute. Saying God bless America.

Anyway, the hard-core MAGA, they're not going to care. We all know. Nothing is going to change their mind. And most Republicans are on Team Trump, and realize it's a political persecution.

But there is a group of independents now, center right independents. Who used to be Republicans. Who don't like Trump. And it would be helpful to the Republican Party and to Trump. If those people could be more disgusted with Biden than with Trump.

GLENN: Right.

MEGYN: And they might yet be. And I don't mean the conviction. The conviction won't help either.

Six weeks of Trump is a shitty husband. That won't help.

GLENN: Remember.

STU: Broadcast.

GLENN: Broadcast. That's all right. That's all right.

So, Megyn, does he go to jail? You said he will be convicted. Does he go to jail? And what would that mean? How much time would he be facing on this?

MEGYN: He's not going to jail on this case. He's not.

But you have lunatics like Andrew Weissmann, who honestly, he's not a -- like, this guy has done a very legitimate legal resume. I realize he left the FBI and all that.

But he was general council of the FBI, was a US attorney, and he's out there saying nonsense like, well, Trump is a recidivist. A recidivist is someone who continues to commit crime after he's served time or been convicted. You know, like you can't stop yourself from selling the heroin.

That's not Trump! So it is true, that there's some potential for jail time, if this judge somehow turns him into a repeat offender because he is facing three other criminal trials.

That's not happening. So I don't think he will go to jail for this one. I think it will be a matter of fines. But if -- that doesn't change much. I mean, jail time would be far, far worse.

But they still have their conviction.

And the thing is, guys, half of independents and still one-third of the Republicans, are saying they like Trump. But they can't vote for a convicted felon.

And I had this conviction -- I think it was with you guys, Stu. You and Dave Marcus were on my show this week. What if they mean it.

I know we don't think they mean it. What if they do mean it.

I look at this. Huh. What if we're wrong?

What if we're downplaying this, like, everyone knows this is BS, but we're wrong? When we misread the polls. And we do often. Because who the heck knows what to believe on polls anymore.

GLENN: Yep.

MEGYN: We get burned.

And so today really could be day one, in Trump losing this election. It could be.

GLENN: My gosh.

MEGYN: I don't think it will be.

But I recognize the danger of what they're doing here. And, of course, we all know, that's why they're doing it.

GLENN: I was hoping that it would backfire on them. I think it has to some degree.

I don't know when you add the actual felony. You know, to this.

MEGYN: That's the thing. That's the question.

Is the backfire bounce, already baked in.

GLENN: Hmm.

MEGYN: Right?

Have they already gotten all the bounce there is to get, from the outrage, over resetting norms that have been in place for almost 250 years.

And that, of course, would be the Democrat's plan, to boost him in the primaries.

He'll get whatever bounce he gets in the backlash.

And then it waned over the course of what they hoped would be four criminal trials. Now it looks like just this one.

But this is their best shot. Six weeks. Disgusting man. Horrid husband. And now convicted felony.

They don't need to hurt him much. You know, Joe Biden only one by 45,000 votes. They don't need to hurt him much.

GLENN: I know.

Megyn Kelly, host of the Megyn Kelly Show. Follows this program on SiriusXM. As always, Megyn, good to talk to you. Thank you.

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