RADIOSeptember 23, 2024

How to convince your Democrat friends to 'JOIN THE RESISTANCE' | Bret Weinstein

Evolutionary Biologist Bret Weinstein used to be a Democrat but now has since flipped to support Donald Trump. What was the final straw that caused him to look at his party and say, 'Enough is enough'? Bret laid it all out for Glenn here: "It wasn't one thing. It's a consistent pattern of hostility to the things that make the West so productive, vibrant, and innovative." But Bret also explained how we can convince our Democrat-leaning friends to make the same change he did.

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GLENN: I wanted to bring Brett Weinstein on.

He's an evolutionary biologist.

Co-host of Dark Horse, the podcast.

He is also one of the founding members of the team, putting together. Join the resistance.

And you can find out all the information at jointheresistance.org/donate. It's September 29th in Washington. So that's a week from this weekend.

I know how you probably feel about going to Washington.

Kind of the same way I feel about going to Washington.

But I'm doing my best to clear my schedule. And be this. Just to stand in the crowd and be there with everyone else.

Because I think this is really, really important.

Brett, welcome to the program.

BRET: Thanks so much. It's great to be with you. On.

One minor correction. The website is jointheresistance.org. The name of the event is Rescue the Republic.

GLENN: Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

Rescue the Republic. So tell me what Rescue the Republic is, for people who don't know.

BRET: Rescue the Republic is more than an event.

It is really, in my opinion, the furthest meeting of the vast unity coalition, that is forming, in large measure, in response to the tyranny, that is clearly unfolding. And planned by what I call the blue team.

I'm embarrassed to say, that's the party to which I still belong. The Democratic Party which has obviously gone rogue. And opposes all the values that are foundational to the West.

So many of us, across the political spectrum, have recognized this hazard. And are putting aside our political and ideological differences. In order to protect the civilization.

Which has been so good to us.

And to stave off the disaster, that will untold, if it is -- it is destroyed.

GLENN: So, Brett, I mean, what?

Eight years ago. You and I wouldn't have been talking. I don't think.

We would have seen each other in the opposite camp. What is it that -- I know what brought you out of that. And decided to go to say. You know, I need to stand on my own here.

Because some things don't make sense, and they're not right.

But what turned you?

What was the turning point for you to say, this -- my own party, is so dangerous to the republic. That I have to -- I have to sign up, and be on the side of Donald Trump.

BRET: Well, it wasn't one thing. It's a consistent pattern of hostility to the things that make the West so productive, vibrant. And innovative.

And, you know, any one of those things could be just myopia of some sort.

But the consistent pattern suggests that we are under the control of people, who do not value the system. For what it is capable of.

And find the rights that we are guaranteed by our Constitution.

So I can't stand by, and watch that happen. I have children. I love them.

They need to have a nation and a world, that is livable.

One in which, they are not seen, as a host to some parasitic force.

But they are understood to be citizens, with rights.

So in light of what we are up against, what possible the difference could there be, between us, that would matter?

GLENN: Hmm. How do you talk to people?

Because you must hear it all the time. You must hear from people who is, you know. Things. Crazy things like you're a traitor.

How could you possibly do that? I mean, Donald Trump is out of his mind crazy. He's a danger. And we're all going to be in shackles and chains.

How do you -- how do you talk to those people, and -- and get them to see the -- the hypnosis in some ways, that they're under.

BRET: Well, I have a couple -- a couple different approaches. But I would say, the key thing is to recognize that this is a kind of hypnosis of some sort. And I believe that literally.

Which means, that the -- the people you're talking to, to say that. Nine out of ten of them. Maybe 99 out of 100 are victims of something that they don't understand. They don't see it. And the way to reach them, is incrementally. The first job is always to let them see your humanity.

GLENN: Yes.

BRET: And let them understand. Know what it is, that they feel.

And that you're concerned about it too. And what you want is to leave them with the question, if the person I'm sitting across from. Sounds reasonable to me. They don't sound crazy. They don't sound like they have bizarre objectives or values.

How could they possibly have reached such a different conclusion about what we must do now? That's the question to leave them with.

And then when you return, hopefully, they will be curious. There will be a lot of questions about how you could possibly be doing something that in their mind, is the height of insanity.

And that's a conversation that most people would have. You would be surprised. If you could break through the first layer, and get past the instinct to either avoid the topic. Or shut down the counterarguments.

GLENN: Right.

BRET: There's a lot of room to discuss where we are, and where we should be headed.

GLENN: So we're running out of time.

What do we have, about 50 days before the election?

BRET: That's about right.

GLENN: We're running out of time.

And I've had really great hope. I mean, you look at the people, who are coming to rescue the republic.

It's Bobby Kennedy. And it's Tulsi Gabbard.

You're going to be there. Russell Brand is going to be there. Charlie Kirk is going to be there.

I mean, it's -- it's a lot of very different people. Some of the best doctors are going to be there.

Some of the best people on -- on economics, is -- they're going to be speaking.

Very short bursts from everybody. On all of the things that are being violated. And how we have to -- and how we have to fix it.

How -- how do we do this in 50 days?

BRET: Well, it's obviously a heavy lift, but it's also easier than you would imagine.

And I -- I'm not sure how to make this point to people. But all of the political analyses about the election are inherently wrong.

If they calculate what the -- the race is going to look like on Election Day, based on what we think of as voters.

Because there's a huge collection of people, who are not voting.

Some of them don't vote because they're tuned out.

There's nothing to be done in 50 days. About those people.

But a huge fraction are actually not voting because they're fed up. Those people can come off the bench. And if they do so, in significant numbers, they can swing any election.

So from my perspective, as somebody who has frankly thought it wise, to vote against both parties, in almost all of the elections that have taken place. Or presidents, in my lifetime.

This is not the moment to do that. And it is certainly not the moment to sit out of the election.

This is the moment to come off the bench. And to stand up for the values, that make our marvelous nation possible.

If we can get people to recognize that, we can actually make a decisive enough victory, that it can overcome, what is presumably, the margin with which the blue team is capable of cheating.

GLENN: The -- you know, Elon Musk has said, repeatedly now. That he feels, this is pretty much it.

Western civilization is at stake. This time.

Now, that sounds like hyperbole to a lot of people. But on September 11th, you know, of 2001, we -- we all instinctively knew that. When we were hit that day, we all thought, oh, my gosh. This thing is fragile. It could come apart at any minute. And what they were trying to do on 9/11 could be done at the ballot box, this time. And -- and destroy, not just America, but the entire Western world.

How do you convince people, that that is -- that's not hyperbole.

Because most people don't that believe that could ever happen.

BRET: Yes, I -- I truly believe it's not hyperbole.

And, in fact, I believe that we are being slowed down, in our recognition, that it is actually an ongoing process.

What we are living through, is the looting of our system. The resources are being drained out of it. Because those orchestrating it. Understand that they are pulling the plug.

So we need to wake up faster. That all this money printing is not the result of foolishness. This is the end game.

The same that could be said of the bubbles that we see in our markets, and the fact that they have come up with rationalizations for incriminating our most fundamental right. Freedom of speech.

Tells you, that this is the end of the process. This is the point at which they don't want us to be able to talk about what they're doing. Because it's going to go on and fast forward.

So I don't think Elon is being hyperbolic at all. I think he's right on target.

GLENN: I do too. And I'm so glad to see, people that are open-minded. And, you know, generally don't vote the same way I certainly was.

Come to the same conclusion. And understand where we are.

So tell me, a little bit about the event on September 29th in Washington.

BRET: So the event is a free event. We're hoping for a very large turnout for a couple of very different reasons.

One reason is that it will make it obvious, that the Supreme Court for it is the new unity coalition is tremendous. And that will make it very hard to sell the story, that Kamala has -- has been swept to victory by a wave of support.

The other reason though, is that seeing people. Flesh and blood people. Gathering across political differences.

Putting the ideology aside. Is going to be meaningful to the large number of people, who are debating in their own minds, whether or not to vote, or sit this one out. We need to motivate them, and motivating them in large numbers will do two things. One, it will make it possible to win this election, decisively.

And, two, it will make the point to the new administration, that really, governing from this vast storehouse of talent and insight, that exists in the unity coalition, is the right way to accomplish the job.

This needs to be a new era, in which frankly the Republicans --

GLENN: Hmm.

BRET: From power.

GLENN: I'm sorry. You cut out the last second or so. What did you say?

BRET: I said, that if we get a large turnout, that this will make the point that this unity coalition, which contains so much talent and insight, is the proper team, to usher in a new era, in which the Republican Party is transformed into something new. And the Democratic Party is removed from power.

GLENN: That is remarkable.

And I have to tell you, I am so excited for Elon Musk. And Robert F. Kennedy.

And Tulsi. And all of the people now. We're getting the real innovative thinkers, to join with Trump.

And I think that -- it promises to be, a completely different world. If he takes advantage of it, and the American people take advantage of this team, that is -- that is growing.

Thank you so much.

I -- I want to encourage you to not only go, to Rescue the Republic. It is happening September 29th in Washington, DC.

But also, if you can. You can show your support, by donating. This is a very worthy cause.

This is honestly, this is the 9/12 Project.

From, you know, the people we would have said are the other side.

They agree with the principles that we put out.

This is -- this is so incredibly hopeful and important. And I know what it's like to put this together.

Especially with the names that they're bringing in. My gosh, you have everybody under the sun. They asked me to speak, and I was like, no. I think I can go and listen.

I don't think I can speak. RFK Jr. Russell Brand. Tulsi Gabbard. Matt Taibbi.

Laura Logan.

Everybody is going to be there. If you can donate, please jointheresistance.org/donate.

Join the resistance.org/donate. It is critical, as the government always makes things more and more expensive, as you get closer and closer. Jointheresistance.org/donate.

And it's happening next weekend. September 29th. Right at the Washington Memorial, in Washington, DC.

This AI could change EVERYTHING by next year

With Elon Musk’s announcement of Grok 4, humanity is closer than ever before to creating AGI – artificial general intelligence – which would change everything. Glenn Beck breaks down what’s coming in the next year with AI, which even Elon Musk called “terrifying.”

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GLENN: Let me tell you the biggest story of the day.

And I think it is the biggest story possibly of all mankind, as of today.

It's going to change rapidly.

I don't know if anybody -- did either of you guys watch the Elon Musk thing last night?

STU: No, I did watch a few minutes of it.

GLENN: Okay. Did you, Jason?

JASON: No. I sure didn't.

GLENN: Okay. So the xAI team was there to unveil Grok 4. This is the latest intelligence, and let me be very, very clear.

Last night was not your typical tech launch. This is a moment that demands everyone's full attention.

We are now at the crossroads, where promise and peril are going to collide. Okay?

I have explained to you, for years, AGI.
AI. AGI. And ASI. Narrow intelligence is what we've always had.

General intelligence is the next step. And that is, it's better that man, one -- one, you know, like Grok. Can do everything. That you can do.

Better that you can do.

Okay?

And then there's super intelligence. ASI.

Artificial super intelligence.

That's when things get really, really creepy.

When you hit AGI, the road to ASI could be overnight.

Okay?

We need to understand what's at stake here. Because Grok four brought us closer to that second stage, than ever before.

Grok four is a powerhouse. They demonstrated it last night.

It surpasses the expertise of Ph.D.-level sailors in all fields.

It can get 100 percent on any -- any test for any field, mathematics, physics. Engineering.

You name it.

This is not a search engine.

This is a system that tackles problems, so intricate, they -- they go beyond our existing knowledge base.

Okay?

Let's say there is -- let's say, we have a fusion reactor. And the magnetic containment system goes down. I don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.

But it goes down.

And the top minds all on earth are like, I don't know what to do. Grok 4 can step in, model the physics, design new material, stabilize the system, and avert catastrophe. And it can do it about that fast. Now, this is the capability, that Musk says is just around the corner.

Mark my words. You know, how many -- how many years did I say, between 2027 and 2030, we would start to see this?

STU: Oh, a million times.

That was always --

GLENN: For years. Right? Yeah, always the window.

And everybody, even Ray Kurzweil said, oh, that's way too optimistic. We may be 2050.

And then people started going, 2040, 2030.

Grok shows us 2026 or 2027 is when we're going to hit it. This is the last year, that we have, before things get really weird.

Okay?

Last night, Elon Musk is touting this -- this AI.

And all of the solutions.

And then he says.

Hmm. Probably three times.

Something like this.

And I'm quoting. This is one of them.

It's somewhat unnerving to have created intelligence that's greater than our own.

He then goes on to call it terrifying, twice.

Now, this is a man who has launched rockets, you know, into orbit.

Going to Mars.

And he says, twice!

You know, after he sees the results of it. He says, you know, it's really -- in a way, quite terrifying to see what it's doing.

But we just have to make sure that it remains good!

Oh, okay.

All right. Sure.

Now, the key point in the announcement was the mention of ARC-AGI.

I had never heard of ARC-AGI. I had no idea what it was. But I noticed AGI. And I went, uh-oh. That sounds important. So this is the gold standard. The bench mark testing for artificial general intelligence.

Okay.

As I've said before, AGI. Artificial General Intelligence is a machine that matches all human cognition, across all domains.

Reasoning, creativity.

Problem solving. Not just specialized tasks like playing Go or analyzing x-rays. Everything. For instance, Musk said by mid-next year to the latest end of next year, it will be able to create a full length movie, just from a text prompt.
And do it all at once!

So, in other words, it will say, create a movie, and you just explain the Godfather.

It will do the casting. It will do the writing. It will do the filming, if you will. It will -- score the music, and it will happen that fast.

Almost in realtime. We are nowhere near the computational power now, to do that separately.

But this will do it all at once. It will make a movie with all of it, simultaneously.

So the arc AGI system is the benchmark on how close we are to AGI. Remember, scary things happen at AGI.

Terrifying things happen at ASI. ASI could be a matter of hours, or days after we hit AGI.

Grok 4 scored 16.2 percent on the ARC-AGI scale.

Why is that important? You're like, well, only 16 percent away.

Because last time, it barely broke 8 percent.

And that -- they took that test, last time with Grok three.

And it took us forever to get to 8 percent.

Now, what is it? A year later.

We're at 16 percent. Remember, these things are not linear. The next time, we could be at 32, we might be at 64.

We are on the verge. This is the last year of -- I can't believe I'm saying this. Of normalcy. Okay?

This year is -- we're going to look back at this year, probably two years ago, gosh, remember the good old days, when everything was normal.

And you could understand everything.

This is how close we are!

Everything you and I talked about last night, Stu, about what we're doing in January, make -- put -- does it make it even more critical that that happens like, oh, I don't know.

Right now.

STU: Yeah. For sure.

GLENN: You are going to need to know your values, your ethics, your rights.

You are going to need to know absolutely everything.

Now, Grok 4 is not true AGI yet.

It lacks the full autonomy and the generalized reasoning of a human mind. But it is the closest that we've come.

It's a system that can adapt, innovate, at a level that outpaces specialized AIs by a wide margin.

This is a milestone. This is not a destination, but it's something that should jolt everybody awake. So here's what's coming over the next six months. By December 2025, that's this Christmas!

December 2025, he believes, Musk, that Grok 4, will drive breakthroughs in material sciences.

So, in other words, imagine a new -- brand-new alloy, that is lighter than aluminum. Stronger than steel.

And it revolutionizes aerospace and everything else, or a drug that halts Alzheimer's progression, tailored to a person's DNA.

Grok will drive breakthroughs through material science. So brand-new materials that nobody has ever thought of.

Pharmaceuticals that we never thought could be made.

And chemical engineering, putting together chemicals that no man has ever thought.

That's going for happen by December.

Imagine a chemical compound that makes carbon capture, economically viable. The climate change stuff, that's over.

It will be over.

Because this will solve that! These are not fantasies.

This is Grok 4.

Musk said something that he never thought. He believes that within the next year, by 2027, Grok 4 will uncover new physical laws.

So that will rewrite the understanding -- our understanding of the entire universe.

That there will come -- like there's gravity. Hey, you know what, there's another law here that you never thought of. Wait. What?

That, he says, will come by 2027. This is going to accelerate human discovery, at an unprecedented scale.

I told you, at some point. I said, by 2030. It might be a little earlier than that.

Things will be happening at such a fast rate, you won't be able to keep up with them.

And it will accelerate to the point to where you won't even understand what all of this means.

Or what the ramifications are!

Are you there yet?

In six months, Grok 4 could evolve into a system, that dwarfs human expertise in economics, defense, all of it.

Now, again, it's a bit terrifying to quote Elon Musk. Why?

Because we don't know, what else comes with this.

This is like an alien life form.

We have no idea, what to predict. What it will be capable of.

How it will view us, when we are ants, to its intellect.

Okay?

It is a tool, but it is also Pandora's box.

If Grok 4 is the biggest step towards AGI.

And maybe one of the last steps to AGI.

My feeling is: What I've been saying forever.

2027 to 2030, I'm leaning more toward the 2027 now.

Because of this announcement last night.

We are on the verge of AGI.

And everything in human existence changing overnight.

And as Musk said himself, two times, it's terrifying!

We should act like it is terrifying.

Or risk losing the control of the future, that we're all trying to build. That's the biggest story of the day.

I think! In my opinion.

Bill O'Reilly reveals how Trump can END Epstein files nightmare overnight!

Bill O'Reilly joins Glenn Beck with his plan for how the Trump administration can fix the Epstein Files fallout "overnight." Plus, he explains why he believes there's only one way that former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan get indicted by a grand jury.

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GLENN: All right. Bill O'Reilly.

Welcome to the program, sir! How are you?

BILL: Welcome. (inaudible)

And right off the bat, I have to correct you.

GLENN: Yeah. You're not alive. What know.

BILL: I mean, you know -- you don't know that?

GLENN: Yeah, yeah. No. I -- I thought you were dead. Anyway --

BILL: You were dead to me, oh!
(laughter)
I --

GLENN: I get it.

BILL: That's just another brick in your wall, Beck.
(laughter)

GLENN: It's good to talk to you, Bill.

Tell me -- you had a conversation with -- with President Trump, what, a couple of months ago, and I talked about --

BILL: Yeah. St. Patrick's Day, he invited me to sit on a cabinet meeting, which he does sometimes.

And he said, look, we've got files, Kennedy, King, Epstein -- what do you think? And I said, well, first Kennedy you've got to put out pretty much everything, which he did. King, he didn't. I don't know why. Because that's important too.

And then on Epstein I said, you have to be careful here, because this is now being used in political precincts. Both sides want to destroy anybody that was associated with Epstein. And the problem is that a federal investigation. They don't make a determination whether you had a -- what kind of relationship you had with Epstein. They just said, so-and-so had lunch with him.

Or maybe so-and-so had -- saw him at a party. And I said, any name of a human being associated with Epstein, in any way, that person is going to be destroyed. Because you know, the press is not going to put anything into context.

So I said, but it's very important that the Justice Department tell the folks what they know.

And you don't have to get specific with anything.

But you have to say, this is the information that we've compiled. And that's not hard.

And I don't know why the Trump administration is not doing that.

GLENN: Wow!

So, first of all, it's your fault, that we're not getting any names. We learned a lot here.

BILL: Probably my fault, but the president --

GLENN: You know what, I think you're right. I don't want all the names of the people. I want to know --

BILL: And I don't either.

GLENN: Right! I want to know the Justice Department has sorted through the things, and then have gone through. And said, this is criminal. This is not. These people are being indicted, et cetera, et cetera. But to come out and say, there is nothing there, I mean, it's -- it's at least --

BILL: It's ridiculous.

GLENN: It's mass incompetence, at least from Pam Bondi. How could she come out and say, it's all sitting on my desk?

And then when she doesn't release it, she says, well, that's because the FBI in New York is thwarting this process. There are people up there, that are trying to keep this from me.

And then she makes no arrests on that. We never hear about that again.

And then now all of a sudden, there's nothing to see.

BILL: Well, listen, Pam Bondi does not make decisions on her own.

No cabinet member does.

All the decisions come out of the West Wing.

So what I believed happened was, Trump was so obsessed with the big bill, with Iran, with Putin, with China.

That this -- they didn't even think about this. Okay?

GLENN: I believe that.

BILL: And it slowly began to unravel. And then I caught it by surprise.

But this is the easiest fix. Somewhere so easy.

BILL: So if I'm in charge, and that would be a great thing for everyone, except you, Beck -- but every other American, if I were in charge, tremendous. You would be in Botswana. Right.

GLENN: Right. Oh, I know.

Yeah. Yeah. I would be the ambassador of the white farmers in -- in South Africa if it were up to you. I know. I know.

BILL: No. You would be wandering around going, I am Glenn Beck. And they would go, who? That's what you'd be doing.

GLENN: That's every day.

BILL: So this could happen within the hour. Pam Bondi announces a press conference for tomorrow.

At that press conference, sitting next to her, is Merrick Garland, everyone.

You had this stuff for four years! Now, I understand that Mr. Garland has gone native and is living in a -- well, we can find him. We can pull him out of there, and have him and Pam, sit there and answer questions in a general way about what evidence the Justice Department of the United States has compiled.

GLENN: Not going to happen.

BILL: That's it!

Well, if it's not going to happen, then President Trump is going to take a hit.

But he's calculating that this will say that it's that night important.

But I don't know why you would not do it.

I just don't know. And I'm usually pretty good at predicting what the president does or does not do.

GLENN: So here's the thing, Bill.

I think he keeps focusing on Epstein. It's not that big of a deal.

It's not about Epstein. It's about justice.

It's about, can we trust the people -- correct!

It's all about credibility and justice.

And he's not seeing that. And I don't know how he's missing that. Because I agree with you.

He's been so busy on so many other things.

BILL: That's right. That's right.

GLENN: This is not at the top of his priority list.

But he did campaign on it.

BILL: Right.

And I don't know if there's anybody inside the White House.

He looks to be annoyed, when this subject comes up.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: And here's the -- what works -- you have to understand.

A guy like Donald Trump runs it all.

If he's annoyed, nobody will want to annoy him more. Okay?

GLENN: Oh, I know.

BILL: That's how it works. The older arch is, because Epstein got favorable treatment.

By the feds, in the first go around in Florida, that there's a deep suspicion about this case.

But if you break it down, if the Biden administration had any dirt on any Republican associated with Epstein. It would have been out.

And vice-versa.

If the Republicans had any dirt on any Democrats. Now, we know that former president Clinton, was involved with Epstein to some extent.

I don't know if that was a factor, okay? I don't know.

But your right for once. You're right. It's about credibility. It's about the American people trusting that we do have equal justice for all!

So what do you -- what do you make of now the Russia gate thing, coming out, today. Or yesterday.

The FISA court.

The fact that they're now saying, hey.

You know, we need to hold Brennan accountable.

We're like five or six days away.

Weeks away from him, you know, slipping past the -- the statute of limitations.

I mean, all these things are out today.

There's that. There is also the -- let's see here.

The Secret Service -- I think this happened a year ago.

But it's being reported as if it's news.

Secret Service suspends six agents assigned to protect Trump during a Butler assassination attempt. I mean, all these things are coming out. Like, look, we're busy on all these things. And I do believe they're busy on these things.

But it's like the Keystone Cops are in charge of the PR on this. It's bad.

BILL: Well, there's a lot of politics involved in both of those cases. Number one, in order to get Comey and Brennan to get indicted by a grand jury. Federal grand jury, and that's the only passage, you would have to have a whistle-blower, saying, yeah, these guys abused their power. I worked for them. And they absolutely wanted to get Trump.

And they knew the Russia dossier was phony.

And they did it anyway.

If I have that Justice Department.

Then you can get those guys.

If you don't have it, they will not be even indicted by a grand jury.

GLENN: So how is it that we do not have that Justice Department?

How do we not have that Justice Department?

BILL: Well, look. I don't know whether they have a whistle-blower or not, okay?

And if they have a whistle-blower, I want the case to go forward.

I want those two men indicted.

You can't do that, at that level.

As far as the Secret Service is concerned, monumental screw up. Everybody knows it. They fired the morons in charge of it. That woman -- I was embarrassed listening to her, trying to explain.

They didn't know what the deuce was going on. But this was across-the-board, in the Biden administration.

You know, it was a year ago Sunday, this upcoming Sunday.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: And it's just another example of how the Biden administration was the second worst administration in the history of this country. People have no idea how bad it was.

Every single agency was chaotic. Nothing worked. And this is just part of that. And we'll have a slew of stuff on Sunday. Nothing really meaningful.

I mean, they suspended the Secret Service agents, as they should have. They fired the director as they should have. The guy was a nut.

I don't know if there was anything more to that. I doubt it.

I'm more interested in the guy in the bushes. Because they don't know anything about him. I would like to know a little bit about him.

But again, the federal government, it doesn't really matter. It's the government. They never want to tell us stuff, Beck, never.

We always have to pull it out of them. It's almost like Russia or something. Come on!

GLENN: Right. Yeah. Let me ask you, let me take you back again to the Epstein thing.

I noticed yesterday, there were these people who were on the left. Who were taking tweets of mine. That say, look. These things don't make sense. On the Epstein thing. And they just have to be answered. And not anti-Trump at all.

And yet, the anti-Trump people were retweeting that, and they're trying to -- they're trying to get the right to fight against itself again and split people away from Donald Trump, where I don't think this Epstein thing is -- is splitting people from Donald Trump, at least at this point.

And I -- you know, I -- my wife stopped me from answering some of those tweets, yesterday.

Because it's never good, when you -- when I tweet in anger. Which I did.

But -- or was going to. What did you think about how this is being used against the right to try to separate us even more?

BILL: Everything is political. Everybody knows that for you.

But the MAGA people, from the mail I get. And I get a voluminous amount of mail. They're not happy.

GLENN: Oh, I agree. I'm not happy.

BILL: Now, are they going to throw President Trump under the cliché-ridden bus? No. Because to them, the greater good is being served by a fair tax bill.

Trying to cut waste.

Dealing with Iran effectively. And hopefully dealing with Putin.

That's another thing, that's on Trump's plate.

He has to deal with Putin now.

Has to. And that will be the next big story.

GLENN: How is he going to deal with it?

BILL: Lavrov and Rubio, are in Indonesia, as we speak.

And I assume that Rubio is delivering a message. That you either stop, or we're going to just absolutely crush you economically. Which the United States can do. By saying. No bank does business with Moscow.

And if you do business, no matter what bank you are, we're going to put you out of business.

Okay?

GLENN: Yeah. I've only got a couple of seconds. But didn't we already do that under Biden?

BILL: No! We didn't do the banks. We did the sanctions. And the sanctions they can always get around, because China is going to buy as much oil from Russia as possible.

You stop the banks, from doing all business with Moscow? Who is going --

GLENN: Isn't that what the SWIFT thing was all about?

When we kicked them off of SWIFT, wasn't that what that was all about?

BILL: No! Because they can still do a huge business with countries buying their oil.

And they got to pay Putin and Russia for the oil, and that has to go through the banking system.

If you stop the banking system, he can't get paid.

GLENN: Hmm, it's amazing. I'm glad I'm not the president right now. I think he's made some very brave decisions, and he is walking a tightrope. I mean, the world is on edge. And I pray for --

BILL: He looks very tired to me. Very tired. I haven't talked to him in a while, which is unusual. But you're right. You're absolutely right. That's the second time you've been right in this conversation. My God!

GLENN: I know. It's crazy.

BILL: What in the world.

GLENN: I was wrong about you being dead.

BILL: What is happening?

GLENN: It's good -- it's good to talk to you, my friend. Is everything okay? Is everything going well?

BILL: Everything is all right, Beck. We are not only successful, but that's old news. We've been that way for 50 years, but I appreciate you having me on your fine program.

GLENN: Okay. I love you.

BILL: Stu is still breathing.

GLENN: Hmm.

BILL: So that's good. Right.

But I've got a big book called Confronting Evil. Of course, we sent it, and of course you denied getting it. That comes out September 9th, so put me on a dance card.

GLENN: Well, we'll have you on. And you can also find Bill and his YouTube page. YouTube.com/BillOReilly. Or is it The Walking Dead?
(laughter)
He's not even laughing. Maybe he hung up. Bill O'Reilly, great to have him on.

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