After watching the CNN Presidential Debate, Rep. Chip Roy is calling on Vice President Kamala Harris to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove President Biden from power. Rep. Roy joins Glenn to explain why he believes this should happen and whether any Democrats will join him: “He should not be Commander in Chief right his second.” He also tells Glenn some of what his Democratic colleagues are saying behind closed doors about Biden’s mental agility.
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GLENN: I led the show today, the comment, you cannot think about politics right now. Politics would say, you just let him go. Let Joe Biden be the candidate.
But it's wrong for the country. And dangerous. Our enemies watched his performance last night. And we are very vulnerable.
Just remember, constitutionally only the Secretary of Defense, the guy who brought us, you know, all of our wonderful exits from Afghanistan and all of the great things our military has been doing lately.
Only he can advise the president, if the football is needed. Only he.
And the president -- read Annie Jacobson's book, nuclear war. There's no way this guy could handle it.
There's no way. And we are -- we are insanely close to somebody doing something stupid.
We cannot have him as president. And Chip Roy. I was glad to see this morning. He's already on it. And he is -- are you putting a bill through? Or are you just trying to gather people to try to encourage the 25th Amendment.
CHIP: Good morning, Glenn Beck. Let me just co-sponsor everything you just said. We all have our political biases. I am a strong supporter of President Trump. I thought he did great last night in terms of laying out his views on the border and all of these issues.
Obviously, those of us who have been following politics have known, that Joe Biden has been diminishing. That he's been demonstrating his clear incapacity and inability to carry out the powers and duties of the office. I think last night, it was on full display in a way that was much more apparent.
And to your point, it was a clearly demonstration -- a clear demonstration to our enemies. You know, and the result of which, is a -- you know, weakened and endangered American people. Not just the nuclear football. Not just the codes. Not just the decision making about those really perilous issues. But just things like handling the border. And to the extent at which people are coming in and killing Americans. The extent to which, we're not pushing up food in the right way. And we're getting into a risk of World War III and Ukraine.
The extent to which we're siding with the Palestinians over Israel. All of these things are a direct consequence of his complete diminished capacity, which again was on full display last night.
So I'm filing either today, or early next week, a very simple resolution. That lays out, those observations. And then simply says, we're call on the vice president of the United States. To exercise her authority under section four.
Under the Constitution. To find the president can no longer carry the duties of the office.
And we believe that she convened the cabinet to do that.
We believe that that's important. And this is a non-political statement.
I happen to believe, that it is beneficial for us politically, to be strong on standing up for the Constitution, and defending the country.
And calling it like I see it. And I think the Democrats will try to pull him down. They will do that anyway. We should not view it through those lenses. That is blindness. We have seven months at least under this guy. And a potential of longer, if you let him run for reelection. And he happens to win.
You know, we can't allow that. So I think President Trump is perfectly defeating him or Kamala Harris or anyone else they want to throw up.
And I think we should right now focus on the fact, that he is unable to faithfully discharge the duties that he has been empowered to do as commander-in-chief.
GLENN: You know, I think the political operatives on the left are so cynical and callous and, you know, power hungry, that they won't understand that a lot of Americans on both sides of the aisle watched that last night and were frightened by what they saw. But also sad.
This was extraordinary to watch the president of the United States. And I watched it last night. And I'm like, if he's declining this much since the State of the Union, what is he going to be like in November? Or January?
He's not going to be all there.
And what does that mean for us?
And look, I don't want the -- for me, personally, if I wanted to look at all of these politically.
I would say, let him one.
Because Donald Trump, it will be such a massive victory, for Donald Trump.
Because nobody could vote for him.
And I think Kamala Harris, you know, is -- is not a rocket scientist.
And I disagreed with her on almost everything.
And I don't want her to be president either.
But what I do know, it's bad for America if he continues another day. It is bad for my children's safety and your children's safety.
But, you know, you -- everybody in the White House knew it. His cabinet, they know about it. And only Kamala Harris, who is unpopular in the White House, can instigate that. And she has to then go to the cabinet. And you have to -- what is it? A majority of the cabinet, has to say, yes. We agree with you.
CHIP: Correct.
GLENN: They're running the show. They're running the presidency, why would they give up that power?
CHIP: Well, I mean, that's a very good point, which is to some degree the impetus behind my desire to put forward a resolution.
Now, look, there are questions about whether it's -- it can be what we call privileged. Whether he can get a vote on it.
There's questions. You know, I'll let the body kind of work its will a little bit. I think it's important to file it.
I think it's important for at least one member of Congress, maybe others to make these statements that we believe the president is unfit to carry out the duties as command in chief.
And to put pressure on them. And look, if they're going to be political. And they will rally around. And say, we're the secretary. We have all the power. We're calling all the shots.
The millionaires are calling the shots. Biden is going along for it.
If they will be that cynical, then that will play out politically. And I think I've done what I think I should do as a man and as an American and as a member of Congress, who has an oath under the Constitution.
If -- if -- not, you know, then fine. If they go carry it out and they go proceed under the 25th.
It's not like I will be doing jumping jacks and jumping down and being excited about Kamala Harris making good decisions. I mean, good grief. She's got massive deficiencies in terms of her capabilities, and obviously her ideology. But there's a clear distinction, right?
And the president is not even the president that he was when he was elected.
You know, and when he was 20. And, you know, I think that when we look at this, as Americans. As you put it, Glenn. We have an obligation to make that clear. But process-wise for your listeners. The way the 25th Amendment works, the vice president has to make the call, to convene the cabinet, a majority, but then send a letter up to Congress. And they would say, you know, we're assuming the duties. The president can then respond and say, no, you're not. I'm actually competent. And then they can basically challenge it.
Then the cabinet can basically say, nope. You're not. Then the Congress votes.
That's basically the way that votes. Congress will not pass a law to create a different body to do that.
We've never done that.
GLENN: I don't like that. You know, I like the way the 25th Amendment was written. But that assumes that you have Americans all that love country more than self in that cabinet. And it has to come from the cabinet and the vice president.
That way, otherwise, you'll get, you know, the Republicans saying, well, that's another form of impeachment.
Let's get him on this. Or you'll have the Democrats doing that. Somebody will -- will abuse this. You know, I -- you didn't expect that the cabinet would be full of people that were just so power hungry and really must respect the office of the president. And real, try, as they say, democracy or the republic.
You never expected that there would be a group of people that would do that. But that's what they're doing right now if they don't stand up.
Is there any Democrat that would join you on this? Because last night, I -- you know, even Joe Scarborough said today, he's got to step down.
CHIP: It is very clear and widespread. When you have lost the New York Times, when you have lost Joe Scarborough, when you have lost democratic pundits on CNN.
They actually went beyond crying and depression.
They went straight to real concern.
And what I believe actually -- is opportunity.
I believe that Democrats have now known this for a long time.
They have been guilty of trying to hide it from the American people. They have been using him as a puppet. As a Manchurian Candidate. To drive their radical agenda. They have done that. And on purpose.
And that now, they saw that the gig was up. That Trump could win. They were hoping they could keep the Manchurian Candidate in place. They panicked. And they said, you know what, it was a controlled panic.
Let's do this. Let's have an early debate. Let's see how they perform. They didn't perform.
Now they have what they need, to push him aside. And, frankly, end run, Kamala.
That's what I think. I think part of this is prompting to end run Kamala, with someone they can pass and sell maybe to Gretchen Whitmer.
Maybe somebody else.
And come in. And try to rally them around. And beat President Donald Trump.
So for me, I think we have a constitutional duty to protect the Constitution. He's incapable. He's been president for a week and 12 months. I think we should force Democrats to own it.
Make a choice. Do you agree? Do you believe he's competent? And number three, look, let's make them choose.
And if Kamala will exercise it, she will become the president. And they have to decide if they will rally around her or not. Or whether they try to end run over someone else at the convention. I think it puts them in a box.
And I don't think Kamala is the best candidate. So, you know, we could see how it all plays out, but our duty is to the Constitution first.
GLENN: So, again, we go back to asking you, are you in Washington now? Have you heard anybody that is talking on the other side about, hey. This is a real problem. We have to get serious about this?
CHIP: Well, look, I don't want to break confidences, but I've definitively had conversations with some of my Democrat colleagues and others. And they have very real concerns.
People that wouldn't ordinarily say it.
And they are very real concerns. And, look, I just saw something out of social media. You have to take it for what it's worth. With someone saying, they're hearing the wrong claim. And Barack Obama are having to sit down with the president today.
Jill Biden is the one that is saying that she insists that he runs.
And that Kamala is feared that she's not being considered as a replacement. Whitmer and Newsome are. Who knows?
GLENN: That's crazy.
CHIP: Jill Biden is the one that is trying to hold him up. And Biden himself is arrogant. And he doesn't even know himself what's going on. So, you know, if they're going to rely on Biden to step down at the convention, then that may not even happen. Maybe that's good electorally for Republicans and for President Trump. And for us to take our country back.
And look, I'm willing to entertain that notion. But I still think we have the duty right now.
He should not be commander-in-chief, right this second.
Every second is a second in which we're a --
GLENN: You're exactly right. Chip Roy, thank you so much. Appreciate it. God bless.
You bet.
