RADIOJune 09, 2025

Why deporting the Boulder attacker's family is NOT CRUEL

The media is enraged that ICE wants to deport the family of the Egyptian illegal immigrant who firebombed a crowd of Jewish people in Boulder, Colorado. But Glenn Beck is all for it! Glenn explains why deporting them all – okay, maybe keep Dad here to rot in jail – is not cruel. It’s common sense.

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STU: Glenn, how are you?

GLENN: Oh, my gosh.

I am so sad this morning.

STU: Oh, no.

GLENN: I'm so sad. Yeah. I read a story in USA Today. About a young woman full of promise, wide-eyed, you know, probably has an Instagram bio that says future doctor, dream chaser, coffee addict, and how she's being deported today along with her family. And she's heartbroken. And why is she heartbroken? Well, because America is cruel, quite honestly. We've lost our compassion, America.

Yeah. I -- I don't know.

I don't have a lot of compassion, you know, because her Dad firebombed a Jewish family.

You know, an old Jewish woman and other people and the skin was falling off their legs, taken to the hospital.

You know, I don't have a lot of compassion there.

I don't. And I'm not one to say, hey. Everybody has to pay for the sins of the father, but when you're here illegally. And Islamism seems to be kind of like a family trait, you know.

They get a whole family involved.

Mom likes to, you know, strap explosives on to their children. You know, dad is already on tape going, Islam is more important than even my children. I wish they would blow themselves up. Or something like that.

I don't have a lot of sympathy for it. I want them out, you know.

Maybe that's just me. You know, okay. So you set a few Jewish people on fire. Minor detail.

I mean, who hasn't committed an act of terrorism before breakfast. You know!

So let me just -- let me just recap this little hallmark moment, that you might have missed.

In Colorado, a man whose visa had expired.

Not once. But twice.

And not on a work visa. On a -- on a tourist visa.

He's here as a tourist.

2022. They come in as a whole family. We want to tour America.

And then they stay. And then he starts, you know, filling bottles up with gasoline. And stuffing rags in it.

Okay.

You know, when he overstays his visa. Then he decides, you know, to do what all grateful immigrants would do, when given a second, third, or fourth chance here in America, to throw Molotov cocktails at Jewish people.

You know, because nothing says, hey, thanks for your hospitality-like arson, you know.

A Holocaust survivor, she outlived Auschwitz. Yeah. But she couldn't really outlive that little march there in Colorado.

And now, ICE has made this monstrous decision. You ready?

ICE, these monsters, are thinking about sending the whole family back to Egypt.

Well, not the whole family.

I think we should keep dad here for a while.

Maybe the rest of his life.

Now, can you hear it? The tiny little violins. Yes, they're playing.

They're not even American violins. They're Egyptian violins, slightly out of tune.

But the daughter says, I'm devastated. Because I was planning to go to medical school here. I just want to be a doctor. Oh, that is heartbreaking.

But, you know what, America's loss is Egypt's gain.

And if your hospital is ever low on burn cream, she will know how to find it. I'm sure she can spot. Wow.

Has third-degree burns. How did you know, Doctor?

Dad was setting Jews on fire, so I'm pretty up to speed on that.

Now, just to clarify something for those who are trying to swear. This isn't some random deportation. This isn't the ICE agents breaking into a third-grade classroom and driving away honor students. This is a man whose -- who set people on fire, who brought us here.

Brought his family here as tourists, and they overstayed. And while they were here as tourists, they decide to break the law even further.

Like, you know what, I will apply for medical school.

Yeah. So I don't know. I don't think you -- I don't think you get the second hole punch, you know, on your green card after you go full Hamas on the streets.

Anywhere in America, you know. Now, I saw some people on X, formerly known as the ministry of empathy. Saying, we don't make a daughter pay for the father's sins.

Really?

Really? Because I don't know.

What is it about white people. Let's see.

I didn't own slaves. In fact, my great, great-grandparents fought for the freedom of slaves in America! And yet, I still smeared with the sin of slavery. And nothing will ever wash me clean of that sin!

So please, don't preach to me, about we don't make the daughter pay for the father's sins.

You're not even talking about my father. You're talking about a freight, great, great grandfather. Who I don't even know!

And he didn't have any slaves.

Oh, my gosh. Okay. So let me just play this out. Okay. Play this out with me.

So Dad throws flaming vials into a crowd. And the system says, yeah. I know you're here illegally. But you get to stay. No. No.

Uh-uh. Uh-uh.

I don't think that's justice.

I think that's more franchise opportunity for terrorism.

So imagine -- imagine your Dad walks into a hospital and stabs the nurses. And your complaint is, but I was going to intern there this summer.

They don't want me to intern there.

Oh, gosh. Dooky fire starter, MD. I feel bad for you. I do. I do.

Ugh. I am really not one for making the children pay for the father, the mother's problems. I'm not.

But I'm sorry, you were here as a guest. You were here as a tourist!

You already -- you knew you were here as a tourist.

Why are you applying for a college?

You're a tourist. You can't go to college here. I mean, I have sympathy. I am a dad, you know.

I know this woman didn't throw the bomb. You know, but if we're letting people stay, based on potential alone, you know, I've got a long line of liberty-loving Amish kids that might want to get into that line. You know what I mean?

I just skipped some of the paperwork.

And here's the thing. The minute your dad made the conscious choice to, I don't know. Re-create Kristallnacht in Colorado. I think you voided the family's warranty.

I think we're like, oh. That's not covered. That's the moment the dream dies for you and your family. Not because of our cruelty, but because of his cruelty.

I know that's a concept for people on the left. They're like, wait a minute. What?

We're going to make all the white people, for the sins they didn't do. But not this person whose Dad -- whose Dad, where they're still living together, just set people on fire, and they're here illegally.

We can't make that happen.

And now, we're expected to feel guilt, because the aspiring doctor has to go to med school in Egypt.

Oh. And Egypt, isn't that where -- let's be honest. The most common first aid advice is don't say anything. The government might here. Look, America is many, many things. But it is not a country that -- that hands out permanent residency to arsonists, and their plus ones.

Oh, plus one.

No. No. You want opportunity, you want safety, don't set people on fire. You know, you want your kids to have a brighter future, don't come here illegally.

Don't come here illegally as a tourist, then overstay your visa, two times, and then set people on fire.

I know. It's not that complicated. It seems like a pretty -- I've never had a problem keeping that rule. You know, don't set people on fire.

Never had a problem with that. And I'm sure it's hard to leave. Sure. Sure.

But you want to be able to have your case heard by a federal judge, because you're now claiming you need asylum.

Wait.

Asylum. From Egypt?

And you're Egyptian?

And you're Muslim.

I mean, pretty staunch Muslim, I'm guessing.

You know, more of an Islamist, than just a Muslim.

I am pretty sure Islamists are really quite popular, you know, in the home of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I'm just saying.

What are you running from? Other Islamists? Oh, I know. I know.

Gosh, in Egypt, they just love Jews so much. That when you get back to Egypt. Your father set Jews on fire.

And what? They won't throw you a parade?

What exactly are you running from?

Bullcrap! Bullcrap!

You're not running from anything!

Oh, except for the truth.

And probably, well, no.

That woman that your dad set on fire, she was elderly. So she's probably not able to chase you.

I don't even know if she could chase you or stop, drop, and roll.

She's pretty old.

But thanks for bringing that to the streets of America.

This is not cruelty.

This is common sense. Period.

You know, if we don't draw a line after somebody lights a literal match, what exactly are we protecting here?

So to the daughter, goodbye. Good luck. Don't let the door hit you on the big, fat Egyptian ass on the way out.

I'm sorry. And, you know what, next time you visit a country, for a little vacation, you might want to make sure nobody in the family is packing some firebombs.

You know, that would be a good one. That would be a good one.

Come on, America. You're smarter than this. Don't fall in.

I know you're not.

I just can't take how many stupid people are around!

I can't take it anymore!

I can't don't it.

Should people CELEBRATING Charlie Kirk’s death be fired?

There’s a big difference between firing someone, like a teacher, for believing children shouldn’t undergo trans surgery and firing a teacher who celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk. Glenn Beck explains why the latter is NOT “cancel culture.”

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GLENN: I got an email from somebody that says, Glenn, in the wake of Charlie's assassination, dozens of teachers, professors and professionals are being suspended or fired for mocking, or even celebrating Charlie Kirk's death.

Critics say conservatives are now being hypocritical because you oppose cancel culture. But is this the same as rose an losing her job over a crude joke. Or is it celebrating murder, and that's something more serious?

For many, this isn't about cancellation it's about trust. If a teacher is entrusted with children or a doctor entrusted with patients, publicly celebrates political violence, have they not yet disqualified themselves from those roles? Words matter. But cheering a death is an action. Is there any consequence for this? Yes. There is.

So let's have that conversation here for a second.

Is every -- is every speech controversy the same?

The answer to that is clearly no.

I mean, we've seen teachers and pastors and doctors and ordinary citizens lose their job now, just for saying they don't believe children under 18 should undergo transgender surgeries. Okay? Lost their job. Chased out.

That opinion, whether you agree or disagree is a moral and medical judgment.

And it is a matter of policy debate. It is speech in the public square.

I have a right to say, you're mutilating children. Okay. You have a right to say, no. We're not. This is the best practices. And then we can get into the silences of it. And we don't shout down the other side.

Okay? Now, on the other hand, you have Charlie Kirk's assassination. And we've seen teachers and professors go online and be celebrate.

Not criticize. Not argue policy. But celebrate that someone was murdered.

Some have gone so far and said, it's not a tragedy. It's a victory. Somebody else, another professor said, you reap what you sow.

Well, let me ask you: Are these two categories of free speech the same?

No! They're not.

Here's the difference. To say, I believe children should not be allowed to have gender surgeries, before 18. That is an attempt, right or wrong. It doesn't matter which side you are.

That is an attempt to protect life. Protect children. And guide society.

It's entering the debate about the role of medicine. The right of parents. And the boundaries of childhood. That's what that is about. To say Charlie Kirk's assassination is a good thing, that's not a debate. That's not even an idea. That's rejoicing in violence. It's glorifying death.

There's no place in a civil society for that kind of stuff. There's not. And it's a difference that actually matters.

You know, our Founders fought for free speech because they believed as Jefferson said, that air can be tolerated where truth is left free to combat it.

So I have no problem with people disagreeing with me, at all. I don't think you do either. I hope you don't. Otherwise, you should go back to read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Error can be tolerated where truth is left to be free to combat it.

But when speech shifts from debating ideas to celebrating death, doesn't that cease to be the pursuit of truth and instead, just become a glorification of evil?

I know where I stand on that one. Where do you stand?

I mean, if you go back and you look at history, in colonial matter -- in colonial America, if you were to go against the parliament and against the king, those words were dangerous. They were called treason. But they were whys. They were arguments about liberty and taxation and the rights of man.

And the Founders risked their lives against the dictator to say those things.

Now, compare that to France in 1793.

You Thomas Paine, one of or -- one of our founder kind of. On the edges of our founders.

He thought that what was happening in France is exactly like the American Revolution.

Washington -- no. It wasn't.

There the crowds. They didn't gather to argue. Okay? They argued to cheer the guillotine they didn't want the battle of ideas.

They wanted blood. They wanted heads to roll.

And roll they did. You know, until the people who were screaming for the heads to roll, shouted for blood, found that their own heads were rolling.

Then they turned around on that one pretty quickly.

Think of Rome.

Cicero begged his countrymen to preserve the republic through reason, law, and debate. Then what happened?

The mob started cheering assassinations.

They rejoiced that enemies were slaughtered.

They were being fed to the lions.

And the republic fell into empire.

And liberty was lost!

Okay. So now let me bring this back to Charlie Kirk here for a second.

If there's a professor that says, I don't believe children should have surgeries before adulthood, is that cancel culture, when they're fired?

Yes! Yes, it is.

Because that is speech this pursuit of truth.

However imperfect, it is speech meant to protect children, not to harm them. You also cannot be fired for saying, I disagree with that.

If you are telling, I disagree with that. And I will do anything to shut you down including assassination! Well, then, that's a different story.

What I teacher says, I'm glad Charlie Kirk is dead, is that cancel culture, if they're fired?

Or is that just society saying, you know, I don't think I can trust my kid to -- to that guy.

Or that woman.

I know, that's not an enlightening mind.

Somebody who delights in political murder.

I don't want them around my children! Scripture weighs in here too.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh. Matthew.

What does it reveal about the heart of a teacher who celebrates assassination?

To me, you go back to Scripture. Whoa unto them that call good evil -- evil good and good evil.

A society that will shrug on speech like this, say society that has lost its moral compass.

And I believe we still have a moral compass.

Now, our free speech law doesn't protect both. Absolutely. Under law. Absolutely.

Neither one of them should go to jail.

Neither should be silenced by the state.

But does trust survive both?

Can a parent trust their child to a teacher who is celebrating death?

I think no. I don't think a teacher can be trusted if they think that the children that it's right for children to see strippers in first grade!

I'm sorry. It's beyond reason. You should not be around my children!

But you shouldn't go to jail for that. Don't we, as a society have a right to demand virtue, in positions of authority?

Yes.

But the political class and honestly, the educational class, does everything they can to say, that doesn't matter.

But it does. And we're seeing it now. The line between cancel and culture, the -- the cancellation of people, and the accountability of people in our culture, it's not easy.

Except here. I think it is easy.

Cancel culture is about challenging the orthodoxy. Opinions about faith, morality, biology.
Accountability comes when speech reveals somebody's heart.

Accountability comes when you're like, you are a monster! You are celebrating violence. You're mocking life itself. One is an argument. The other is an abandonment of humanity. The Constitution, so you understand, protects both.

But we as a culture can decide, what kind of voices would shape our children? Heal our sick. Lead our communities?

I'm sorry, if you're in a position of trust, I think it's absolutely right for the culture to say, no!

No. You should not -- because this is not policy debate. This is celebrating death.

You know, our Founders gave us liberty.

And, you know, the big thing was, can you keep it?

Well, how do you keep it? Virtue. Virtue.

Liberty without virtue is suicide!

So if anybody is making this case to you, that this is cancel culture. I just want you to ask them this question.

Which do you want to defend?

Cancel culture that silences debate. Or a culture that still knows the difference between debating ideas and celebrating death.

Which one?

Shocking train video: Passengers wait while woman bleeds out

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.