RADIOJuly 15, 2022

Did the far-left COVER UP this AWFUL crime to push abortion?

While speaking about abortion access last week, President Biden told the story of a 10-year-old girl in Ohio who was forced to travel across state lines to receive an abortion after a horrific sexual assault. But we now know there’s MUCH more to the story that the far-left likely never wanted you to know. Glenn is joined by investigative journalist Megan Fox, who provides details that suggest the unimaginable: The far-left may have COVERED UP the truth in order to push their pro-abortion agenda. There are still several details yet to be released, Glenn says, but it is TIME FOR ANSWERS.

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GLENN: But let's start with the rapist.

The rape of the 10-year-old girl that the president was speaking about, when he was talking about the dangers of Roe vs. Wade. He told the story about a 10-year-old girl in Ohio, that had to cross state lines into Indiana to be able to get an abortion, after she was raped. Now, that story didn't sit right, with people.

Because there were no names involved. And I'm not talking about the name of the 10-year-old. There was only one anonymous source.

And so people started, especially the people at PJ Media. Started asking the questions, well, wait a minute. Wait a minute. We need more than one source.

And so they went for criminal records. They wanted to see, if a rapist, had been charged in the state of Ohio. Raping a 10-year-old girl. Nope!

No record of it. Okay. So we go to police. Then we go to the state. And, in fact, the state of Ohio, the attorney general says, I don't know anything about this. This would be a very big thing, if there were a rapist of a 10-year-old girl. I don't know anything about. So there had been no charges filed. Nothing. Nothing.

Well, we find out now, that probably, the reason nothing was done, is because the rapist is an illegal alien. His name is Gershon Fuentes. He was arrested after police say he confessed to raping a child on multiple occasions. He's been charged now with rape.

And at first, the Columbus Dispatch said, yeah. He might be an illegal alien. Yeah. He is an illegal alien. He was in the US, unlawfully.

You know, he had been caught. He had been caught.

And they said, hey. You're not supposed to be here.

And he's like, what?

Me no speak English. And they said, well, here. Here's a paper. You've got to report back. And check in with us. Because we're going to -- and he said, oh, I speak that English, sure. I'll get in touch with you, wink, wink, nod, nod. He obviously didn't. So what happened? Apparently, this guy was working either near or, you know, at the child's house. We don't know all of the details yet. But here's -- here's what we do know, according to an Indianapolis obstetrician gynecologist.

She said she had spoken to a child abuse doctor in Ohio, in scant detail.

So this -- this gynecologist object stet transition meets with this girl. Now, here's the real problem. You -- you have to file a report. If you're a doctor, and you have a rape, especially of a child. You have to report it to the state. This doctor that seems to be the source of this story. This doctor didn't report it. It

Now, the state law says, could have an abortion. So why did this activist send this 10-year-old across state lines?

Now it's not only Ohio that is looking into that. It is also Indiana. Indiana is now looking into this doctor. And wondering why this doctor. Did send the child to Indiana. And not inform the police.

Well, we find out now, that the doctor is an abortion activist. Did this doctor, not report this rape to a child? And send this child unnecessarily across state lines, just to make the point and have the story that the president could give?

We don't have all of the details yet. But believe me, they will come out. You're probably not going to see this story in mainstream media. They report it on the rape of the 10-year-old, over and over and over again.

But now that we know, it's an illegal alien. Now we know the doctors is an activist. Now we know that the doctor didn't report the rape. We know that the doctor is a -- a -- an abortion activist. I doubt you'll be hearing much about this story, at least with the mainstream media.

Thanks to Megan Fox at PJ Media, she's the one who really was really relentless on this, and broke this story. So we're trying to get her on. She'll be on with us in about 15, 20 minutes. She'll give you the whole story.

This little girl. By the way, when the police finally found out about this rape, no thanks to the doctor, once they finally found out about this rape. They went in, and arrested the guy.

He -- let's see -- see if I can find this. She'll tell you this story.

The police department report, blah, blah, blah. The perpetrator may have actually been living with or at least near the victim until his arrest.

We don't know for sure, but the scene of the crime was Fuentes' apartment, and his lawyer told the judge at a hearing on Wednesday, that Fuentes had an address, where he could live, that was not the same location as the 10-year-old. Note the use of the word could.

The suspect could live separate from the victims. Okay. So wait a minute.

Was the 10-year-old child living in the same house with the rapist?

And how long was that going on, after she got her abortion. Was she going back to the rapist?

This is -- this is -- by the way, one other thing on the doctor, HIPAA. She didn't report it. She instead, reported it to the press.

She's now also being investigated in Ohio, for a violation of HIPAA. A 10-year-old. And tell me these people care.

PAT: Yeah. This douche bag is 27, by the way. Twenty-seven years old. Shouldn't be in the country at all. And people will say, well, there's plenty of rapists who are born and raised right here. Yeah, this one wasn't. This didn't need to happen. We don't need other people's rapists as well as our own. We don't need that.

And so, this thing is a mess, and I think you're right. It's even worse than if it hadn't happened at all. Despicable. Despicable.

GLENN: Yeah, because now it shows the complete act of compassion for the actual 10-year-old.

PAT: Uh-huh. They don't care.

GLENN: They were using this 10-year-old. They didn't care. They tried to make it look like, oh, they were so compassionate. Think about this 10-year-old. As Joe Biden said, can you imagine think that 10-year-old? Can you imagine being that 10-year-old, and realize that your continued rape was used by the president, and they did nothing. They did nothing. They sent you across state lines, to have a procedure done, that should have, could have been done in Ohio.

I mean, I think most Americans agree with life of the mother, rape or incest. You can -- you can split hairs on this. And it gets down to a very narrow group of people. I am for those exceptions, if they're legitimate, and I feel bad about it. I shouldn't be for those exceptions, I think. But I just can't do it myself. I couldn't imagine saying to my daughter, who had been raped, you know, hey, this is the decision, it's the only decision. I just can't imagine.

PAT: And especially when it's a 10-year-old. You can't ask a 10-year-old to carry a baby to term. Right? I mean, I don't think I could do that.

GLENN: No. Yeah. So here we are with a 10-year-old, where everybody agrees, and the state of Ohio also has those exceptions. And these monsters -- these absolute monsters don't report the rape, then they go out and give all this information to the press and to the president. When I say all this information, I mean just about the kid having to go across state lines, which is a lie. We are dealing with such evil. Such evil. But it makes sense. I don't know if you know the history of abortion. That there is a birth of abortion. Modern day excuses on abortion. And I'll give it to you here in 60 seconds. Stand by.

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GLENN: It was the Marquis de Sade. Is that right? Is that how you pronounce it? Pat, I know you took some French. S-A-D-E.

PAT: Marquis de Sade.

GLENN: Yeah. Marquis de Sade. He was a really nasty, cruel, and proudly deviant. He did not believe in God. And he used his godless hypothesis, to reach the most radical conclusions. He is the father of sadomasochism.

The marquee preached pleasure as the ultimate value. He said, I have -- listen to this. This is a quote. I have destroyed everything in my heart, that might have interfered with my pleasure.

And destroy he did. Not only in his own heart, but in others. He was notorious for picking up prostitutes, imprisoning them, and then violently raping and torturing them. He was so depraved, that even the French thought, okay. This guy is really spooky.

They had him locked away. While he was in prison, he wrote a how-to book for the West. Using fiction to instruct his readers on how they could become sexually depraved and like it. His books were generally considered graphically, and repulsively considered pornographic. But Wikipedia said, they're now considered sociopolitical dramas. Oh!

So one of his most popular works is the philosophy of the bedroom. And this is what this evil dude wrote. It is impossible to demand of any individual, that he become a father or a mother against his will. We are currently the masters of this more sell of flesh.

However it be animated. As we are the -- as we are of the excrements that we eliminate through our bowels, because the one and the other are our own. And because we are absolute proprietors, of what emanates from us.

So he is saying, we take crap, and we have the power to do that. Because it's in my body. My body, my choice. He then writes, if however, the misfortune of pregnancy does occur, without yourself having been at fault. Without yourself being at fault.

That would be rape and incest. But if you were an active participant in it, you are at fault.

Notify me within the first seven or eight weeks. Even -- even the guy who started S and M said, you know, go to find the first seven and eight weeks. Because then it just gets crazy. Notify me in the first seven and eight weeks, and have it very neatly remedied.

Dread not infanticide. The crime is imaginary. We are always mistress of what we carry in our womb.

So what is he saying there? If you get pregnant, don't worry about it. We can just neatly get rid of it. It's just a clump of cells. There's no reason to feel bad about disposing of this. Well, this sounds almost exactly what Planned Parenthood uses on women.

This is the guy, who started the transition from abortion as an unspeakable act. To abortion as a social norm. By the way, I'm not the first person to say any of this. An article in the NIH is National Library of Medicine. Says the publishing of the philosophy of the bedroom is from where the medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated.

PAT: Wow.

GLENN: So the worst masochist. Sadomasochist. Is credited by the National Institute of Health. As the guy, who says, the medical and social acceptance came from there! Came from him!

He laughed in the face of God. He said, the imbeciles who believed in God, persuaded that immediately an embryo begins to mature, a little soul emanation of God, comes straight away to animated these fools, he said. Because there is no God. So there is no value to life. Thus, life is really valueless. He destroyed in his heart, what inhibited his pleasure.

So destroy the idea that that is a child in there. So you can continue to do whatever you want.

It's your right to destroy what inhibits you.

Just this week, they were having a conversation about the value of life. They wouldn't say that the baby had any value.

Because the mothers choice of whatever she wanted to do. That's paramount.

She has the right to destroy what inhibits them.

We really need to understand, how monstrous this is. What a monster, it was, that made this popular. And what monsters we're becoming. Back in a minute.
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GLENN: The author of the book, Believe Evidence an investigative journalist for PJ Media, Megan Fox joins us now. Megan is really the woman that took it upon herself to find out the story of this 10-year-old victim of rape. That had at that at first we thought might be a hoax. That would have become a dream come true, if our president were only lying about it. As she found out, the story is much, much darker. Welcome to the program. Hi, Megan.

MEGAN: Hi, Glenn. What a fun surprise to remember from you this morning. Thank you for having me.

GLENN: Oh, well, thank you so much for the hard work. I mean, this had to be agonizing, confusing, and at the end, just depressing on what has gone on in the state of Ohio, with this -- with this poor 10-year-old girl.

MEGAN: Yeah. It has -- it has been. And, in fact, I had no idea that this story was as huge as it really is.

It would have been much better had they been making it up. My brain didn't even go to, they're using a real victim, to push a pro-Roe agenda.

I didn't even go there. Because that was too awful to consider, and yet, here we are. And what I considered, when I saw this one source, poorly sourced, poorly vetted story in the Indianapolis star was, there's something else here. No one cares about a rapist who is on the loose, apparently, in Ohio. And why aren't we asking those questions? Why aren't we asking, who raped this child, and can we get him prosecuted? Can we get him arrested?

And you know what really bothers me, and what question is still out there, top of my list is, well, there's two. One, why did the police in Columbus tell the Washington Post, Glenn Kessler, there was no report. They also told the attorney general, there was no report. So then the attorney general goes on Fox News on Monday, and says, I can't find a report. And on Tuesday, they have an arrest?

There was a report, Glenn. It was put in on June 22nd. So who was keeping it from the press and the -- the attorney general?

GLENN: So wait. Oh, my gosh. So this is a bit deeper now.

So now we think, not only was the doctor violating HIPAA. Lying to the child and saying, you have to go to another state. And unnecessarily sending him to another state.

Did the -- did the doctor report the crime? And if so, then the police investigated, but didn't arrest the guy, and the police are involved in the cover-up?

MEGAN: Well, I don't know. We can't get answers from the police, Glenn. They won't talk. So I put in a FOIA, last week to the Columbus police, asking for this very case. Do you have an investigation that involves a 10-year-old being raped?

They did not respond to me. But Glenn Kessler got them on the phone. And they told him no. The attorney general -- general -- attorney general Yost of Ohio, asked around to all his prosecutors and sheriffs. They told him, there was no report.

And then -- now, we have the report. I have it on my desk. And the police have this since June 22. June 22nd. So they have -- they knew about this rape. And they didn't arrest this guy until the 12th. After the Fox News blitz. I just find the timing highly suspicious. And I want to know how the investigation went. And that's what I'm still digging into. Now, I don't know if Caitlin Bernard. I don't know if she reported to the Indianapolis Police, her mandated report.

That's another FOIA that I have, that's waiting to be returned by Indiana government. So they haven't confirmed that. Maybe she did. It appears according to the investigation, that she cooperated in some way. Because they did get the fetal remains for DNA testing. So that means, she had to either have been given a warrant for that. Or she voluntarily provided it. I don't know.

She won't answer my question. When I asked about these directly, yesterday. She sent me a link to the Columbus Dispatch article, that just details the arrest of this guy. She still won't answer directly, what role she had, in helping this investigation or not.

GLENN: Who gave this story to the left?

MEGAN: That is a very good question. And I also have questions about why the only reporter in the courtroom yesterday. For the arraignment of the illegal alien, who raped this child, more than once, and impregnated her, was a reporter from a Ghanic (phonetic) corporation media conglomerate. That's the same conglomerate that owns the Indianapolis Star. Why are they the only people who had any access to any of this information. And when the Washington Post tried to reach out to get them to corroborate their story, they wouldn't -- they said that their reporting was clear.

But it wasn't clear. They had a one source story, with no backing, documentation. No mention of a police report. And now, the only reporter, that was tipped off, to the courtroom proceeding yesterday, was somebody at their company.

That's interesting.

GLENN: Mention, boy, this is -- this is a story, that when you're done with, you should get a Pulitzer. You won't. But you should get a Pulitzer for.

When you -- when you're looking at this story -- first of all, did -- did the girl cross state lines, into Indiana? She did, to have that abortion, correct?

MEGAN: Yes. And we need to know why. Because Ohio would have allowed that abortion. I've read the law. I've had it confirmed by Ohio legal analysts. Attorney general himself has confirmed it.

The emergency section of the law specifically says, that this physician can make a good-faith judgment on the life and safety. Health and safety, in an emergency situation. And this clearly, clearly would be -- would fall under that category. So we need to know why.

GLENN: Correct.

MEGAN: She was refrain Ohio to Indiana. Was it for the story? That's my guess. My guess is -- and this is just a guess. This is what journalists do. You know, I'm getting a lot of flak for, oh, you thought it was a hoax.

It is a hoax. There's something wrong here. And if you can't see it, I'm trying to point it out. This whole thing, this story was not, that Roe was somehow, causing little girls to be denied abortions. Because she would never have been denied an abortion in Ohio. The story is that illegal aliens are raping kids. And all the left cares about is that they can get abortion.

That's insane.

GLENN: So we know that this -- this doctor, that the girl apparently went to first. She's an activist. An abortion activist. Right?

MEGAN: Actually, she's the second doctor. We don't know who the first doctor is. The girl went to a doctor in Ohio. There was a consultations that happened in Ohio. After the police were informed. So the police get informed on the 22nd. The family takes the child to a Ohio doctor, on the 28th, or 29th. That doctor consults with the family, and then calls Dr. Bernard. Well, we don't know who that doctor is. They won't be release the name. So I also can't check to see if the doctor made a mandated report. It doesn't matter, I don't think, if that doctor is not aware, that doctor has to make a report. She called Caitlin Bernard, or he. I don't know who the doctor is. Called Caitlin Bernard. Bernard then arranged for the child to come to Indianapolis, have the abortion there.

The police were then given, or obtained somehow. Because it's not clear how.

The DNA from the fetal remains. Then they're now checking that with the arrestee, who they say confessed.

And they're checking that against him. And also, the siblings. I guess they're just trying to rule out the siblings. I can't figure out why they would test it against the siblings, unless they would want to rule it out.

GLENN: We -- we also have a situation that seemed pretty fuzzy yesterday. Where the guy who was arrested, his attorney, said he does have a place where he could live. Away from the victim. So was he living with the victim, up until what, yesterday? Day before?

MEGAN: Yeah. That hasn't been confirmed, but it sure sounds like it. Because if during the -- there is somewhere, you should let him out on bond. Because we can put him somewhere, that is not with the child. Does seem to suggest that he was living in the same -- at the same house. I don't know. Maybe it was an apartment.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait a minute. Hold it. I need to understand this.

The police were notified, that there had been a rape of a 10-year-old. She goes across state lines. She has an abortion. It is reported by the president, in a campaign, to say how evil the Supreme Court is.

At the same time he's doing that, the police have not arrested a guy. In fact, released him back possibly into the same home, with the 10-year-old victim. Do I have that right?

MEGAN: Yes. Now, let's -- let's -- let's also say this though. Here's one more detail that was in the court records. Let's give the police the benefit of the doubt, that they did not know who the rapist was on the 22nd. The details of -- the details of the report say that on July 6th, is when the child told the police, that this is the person who did it.

So we don't know if anybody else told them before July 6. But the child told them on July 6th. But that still leaves six whole days, when there was not an arrest. After the police knew, that this was the rapist. So there are questions, here, Glenn. Questions that should be answered. Questions the press should have asked in the beginning. This was never about, can a 10-year-old get an abortion?

It is about, who raped a 10-year-old child. For God's sake!

Why do I have to do this work, Glenn, for the media? Why do I have to say, me, an independent journalist out here, who nobody returns my phone calls. You know, when the Washington Post calls the Columbus police, they pick up the phone. They don't do that for me. So, you know, people like ABC and NBC and Indianapolis Star. They have so much more clout with getting answers than I do. I'm out here struggling on my own, to try and get these answers.

I did the media to remember what their job is. I reminds them, that they did no legwork on this story. And as soon as they figured out, that they were being embarrassed on a national stage, they suddenly did their job. And guess what happened? Now there's a rapist behind bars. That's what should have happened in the very first reporting of this story.

GLENN: It should have happened before the girl had an abortion, even. I mean, that seemed to me, to be the priority. Stop the rapist. Now, make sure the girl is safe. And then, let's carry out the procedure. The abortion, on this 10-year-old. I mean, it's insane. Will you do me a favor, Megan?

I'm kind of well-known in Ohio. If you don't get somebody returning your phone calls, will you let me know? Because I can guarantee you, they will return your phone calls, if they know I'm about to explain to all of Ohio and America, who is not picking up their phone. Would you allow me to help you with that?

MEGAN: Well, it's the Columbus police Cannon now that won't be respond to my FOIAs.

GLENN: Won't respond to your FOIA. Wow. That's interesting. Who is it that you're dealing with there?

MEGAN: Well, they just make you send an email to their -- you know, it's like a request email line. It's no particular person.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MEGAN: And like -- it goes to the public records officer. Or whatever. But that's --

GLENN: Will you do me a favor? Get me the name of the public records officer, and get me the name of the chief of police, and we'll -- and we'll make sure somebody is returning your phone call. Will you do that for me?

MEGAN: Glenn, I appreciate that.

GLENN: You know, hang up the phone --

MEGAN: I will. But one more thing. Columbus -- this is very important.

GLENN: Yeah.

MEGAN: Columbus is a sanctuary city. Is this problem with the police not communicating and the arrests not being made until this huge national, you know, blitz went on. Is that because they weren't going to do anything about this? Because they couldn't hold a guy, because they don't honor ICE holds, because it's a sanctuary city? There's a much bigger story here, Glenn. And I would love your help getting to the bottom of it. Because I need all the help I can get.

GLENN: You do anything -- anything you need from me, you have. And I don't need -- you -- whatever I can do. Off-air. On-air. To help. You'll get to the bottom of the story. You will. Don't give up. Thank you so much, Megan. You bet.

And thank you to everyone from PJ Media for the fine work they're doing there. And Columbus. And Columbus police. You're on -- you're on notice. I think we have a few Ohio listeners, that would like to know, what the hell is going on. In their own community.

And you might want to -- I mean, I'll give you some people to call here, shortly, but you might, if you're listening in the -- and you're in Columbus, and you work for the police.

You might want to call, and say, hey. We should call Megan Fox back. Before -- before just whoop ass is opened up.

“He was one of ours, and he was taken”: Megyn Kelly remembers Charlie Kirk

Glenn Beck and Megyn Kelly remember their friend, TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk, a day after he was assassinated at Utah Valley University. They also discuss the manhunt for the killer.

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GLENN: Yesterday was such a surreal day. I was getting to record my special last night. It was in the afternoon. And I'm sitting here in my studio, and I look at the stairs through this glass door that I have here. And my wife is on the phone, and she's standing in the stairway.

And she has her, her hand gripping the stair rail. And I could see it in her eyes, she was on the phone. And I could see confusion, and I could see trouble.

And in my ear, I'm hearing, five, four, three -- and I said, "Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. I need 30 seconds. I need to talk to my wife."

And I motioned for her to come in. And in a confused and dazed sort of way, she kind of stumbles into the room.

And I said, "What's happening, honey?"

And she said, "It's Cheyenne."

I didn't know what that meant. As a dad, you can imagine. I said, "Is she okay? What -- what's happening?"

She meant, it's Cheyenne on the phone.

Cheyenne had just gotten past the crush of the crowd. She called her mom. She said, "Charlie Kirk's just been shot."

"What?"

She sent me some video, and I knew it was true, but hoped for the best until a few minutes later somebody else sent me video that I hope you did not see, of the bullet striking him.

It must have been like what it was when you first saw the Zapruder film, or if you were standing in the Grassy Knoll. You just knew.

I was on with Megyn Kelly, and we were holding on to the hope that he was somehow or another going to survive that. And Megyn said at one point, I don't know why I'm not announcing what everybody else is announcing. But I just can't.

Megyn joins us now. Hi, Megyn.

MEGYN: Hi, Glenn.

GLENN: What a weird 24 hours it has been. Where are you this morning, in unraveling this knot in your head?

MEGYN: I still don't have my arms around it. I -- I don't feel like I've totally digested the fact that he's gone and the way in which he was taken. You know, Charlie truly was such a larger than life figure. We say that term. But it -- it was true about him. At six-five, he truly seemed larger than most of us. And he was, in his gifts, in his tirelessness. And just knowing exactly where the scene. Every story was.

And his raw courage. So many times. We like to think we're courageous in our commentary. You look at Charlie, and you think, now that's try courage. He -- he would just say it like it was.

The things you might be thinking in your head, but you might not want to say explicitly, he said. And he took a lot of slings and arrows for it and was demonized for being all the terrible things, as opposed to people taking him on and saying, "Does he have a point?"

GLENN: You know, I said earlier today, you don't kill the weak. People don't want to try to heal. They just want to speak in anger at times. And anger is part of the grieving process. And I know I'm angry.

But Charlie would face that anger. And what people think is weakness, by showing love and compassion and listening and just having a decent conversation, that's one of the reasons why he was killed. He wasn't -- he wasn't killed because he was weak. Just like Gandhi wasn't weak. He -- he -- he was killed because he was effective.

Megyn, where do we go from here?

She dropped. Can we get her back on the phone. I got an email from somebody today. This morning.

And I want to share the email. I won't share the name. It's short. But I -- I also think I should share the -- my response. Because I think it's how most of us feel.

It -- it comes from a very well-known conservative leader. Glenn, I am devastated this morning.

I am in deep mourning for Charlie. I am in mourning for his family and our country.

And I don't know how to surface from this. I don't know if I do either.

But I would like to share my thoughts with you, a little later on. Megyn is with me.

Megyn, how do we process this? How do we surface from this?

MEGYN: You know, I think as many lost -- we -- we all have to go through the denial and the bargaining. You know, I'm still refreshing my X account, like hoping somehow there's a reversal. You know, like somehow it was all wrong. Somehow we got it all wrong. You know, sometimes the media gets it wrong. It -- it's absurd. We know what the answer is.

But that's a natural reaction when you had a sudden loss in particular. And anger is completely appropriate now too. It's completely appropriate.

You know, we are going to catch this guy. You know, that FBI presser they just held which is very encouraging.

They -- and two things that happened this morning that are of note, Glenn. First, Steven Crowder who is very solid on his law enforcement leak reporting. He has -- he has a proven track history. He's the one that got the manifesto from the trans shooter in Nashville before anyone else. And that's not all.

He's had other leaks, posting a document saying he received from an ATF source on the investigation.

And that says that they retrieved the gun in the would see, behind the campus. Wrapped in a towel. And that there were three unspent cartridges in the gun. That had transgender and antifascist ideology. Something written on them.

Now, that piece of -- that last piece of it was not confirmed by the FBI at the presser they just held, but every other thing was.

The Crowder report was confirmed in every detail, including naming the kind of gun. He had that right. He had the location right. He had the trail and the tracking of the suspect right.

They did not volunteer the business about what was written on the cartridges, nor did anyone there ask. Because those reporters almost certainly don't follow Steven Crowder because those reporters will probably tell you, he's not to be trusted.

Now, this is an early report. And it could turn out to be wrong. But that's the update as far as we know it.

And the FBI revealing that they have a picture of him, that they did, of course, track him on his way to the shooting spot with surveillance cameras, of course, on these college campuses. We would expect that in dorms or class buildings.

And they appear confident. At least to me. That they've got the guy. And if they've got the weapon, Glenn. Well, they may or may not have fingerprints.

But they almost certainly have DNA. They almost certainly DNA, which I'm sure they're uploading right now, into every database, they can.

You know, within we saw -- they're not supposed to use the public databases. Sorry, private like 23andme or Ancestry.com. Though, in Culverter (phonetic), they did. And that is how they found Culverter. Sometimes they do.

And even just a public database of DNA. Can lead you at least to a family member somewhere near a shooter or suspect. And then it's just a matter of charts and a few hours in getting to that person's relative. So I believe they will find the shooter.

And then we'll know the ideology. And then we'll have a place to put some of the anger. Like, an explanation or something that will help us understand what deranged person. And I don't mean that in a clinical sense. Did this yesterday.

I just feel like, I don't know where to go, until I figure out who did this and why.

GLENN: It was about midnight last night, when I talked to the president.

And he was very clear, that we will find whoever is responsible for this. And justice will be served.

He was extraordinarily confident in that. Which gave me an awful lot of hope.

I don't know if you saw his speech last night, that he gave from the oval.

But I thought -- very powerful. Hit exactly the right tone.

Hit exactly the right tone.

But I think the days of us fooling around and nibbling at the edges. I think those days are over.

MEGYN: I agree. And one of the things that Trump said last night that was so good was, he used the word "terrorism." That's exactly right. You know, that's -- that is how a lot of us are feeling.

And I know you've had the same experience I've had in the last 24 hours, Glenn, where virtually everybody I know in the media business has reached out. I think there are a lot of folks who are in Arlene, in particular, in conservative media, who are very rattled by this because he was one of ours.

And he was taken. You know, he -- obviously, we all have concerns about personal security now with the shooter at loose. You know, at large as well. But I just mean that -- like the betrayal and the need to rise up and protect ours. And the people we value and love.

You know, this is like -- I don't want to say a call to arms. Because I'm not encouraging violence. But, I mean, a unifying call for us to stand shoulder to shoulder and stand up.

GLENN: Yeah. It is absolutely a wake-up call. To anybody who thought, you know, "Oh, it's just going to pass us by," it's not. This is -- this is the call of our age. And how we respond, is going to determine the future of freedom in this country. But I have great confidence that we will respond just as we did after 9/11.

We responded with conviction. We responded with an intelligence sort of way. We overreacted in some ways, that I would like to avoid this time.

But we came together as a nation, and did what had to be done.

For the preservation of our nation.

Now, if we can have the moderation lesson learned this time. Perhaps we will be good. But I think the days of Antifa not feeling any ramifications for their work and others, those days are over! As of yesterday.

Megyn -- I just -- go ahead.

MEGYN: Go ahead, Glenn. I was just going to say. One of the things we did after 9/11 was when the stock market opened two days later. We -- we all bought stocks. We just -- it could have been a 5-dollar to being. But everyone did it to send a message that the financial center would stand. And I think we are going to see a reaction on college campuses when it comes to free speech by conservatives unlike we've ever seen before. In a similar vein.

GLENN: I agree. I'm proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with you, Megyn. And be in the trenches with you all the time. You are a light in a lot of darkness. And I appreciate our years of friendship. And everything that you've done for the country. Thank you!

MEGYN: Likewise, my friend. Thanks for having me.

“Our country has changed forever”: Charlie Kirk's BlazeTV friends reflect on his death

BlazeTV hosts Liz Wheeler, Steve Deace, and Allie Beth Stuckey join Glenn Beck to reflect on the assassination of their friend, Charlie Kirk. They also discuss where the conservative movement goes from here and what they believe the impact of his death will be.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: I spoke to you yesterday. And we were both pretty raw at the time. How are you doing this morning?

LIZ: I -- I am in a fog of grief, Glenn. I think that a lot of us are -- it still feels very unbelievable what happened to our very dear friend, Charlie Kirk. I feel like I'm floating up outside of my body in a sense, watching all of this unfold.

It's quite something to see the reaction, from the American people over this assassination. I think you're correct when you say that our country has changed forever. I think this is one of the most significant -- not just political assassinations, but political events that we've experienced since the inception of our country.

And I think I've been praying about this, since you and I spoke for so long yesterday.

I've been thinking about this endlessly.

Obviously, on my knees, praying for sweet Erica and Charlie and Erica's two babies. But I think one of the things that's happened in the last 24 hours is people in our country, and I don't even want to say conservatives.

I don't want to say right-wingers because it's not just that, have realized that Charlie is so normal. He's not radical. He's not extreme.

He's not bombastic. He's not edgy. He's just a regular guy. And he's kind. And they killed him because of those beliefs and opinions, those principles and values, Glenn, that we share with him.

And you and I work in this industry, and you've written a lot of books about this political enemy that we face, and we talk about it a lot.

But for the majority of the American people, this is the first time, Glenn, that they're realizing, exactly who this political enemy that we face is.

And it's jarring, and it's gut-wrenching. Because they realize, that just as easily as they assassinated Charlie Kirk and are now dancing on his grave, they want to do that to us, too. (crying)

GLENN: Liz, I -- and I know you do. I have such faith in the Lord. And I know -- I don't know how our lives end.

I don't know how things work out. But I know everything that happens is used for his good. There is no way to thwart God's plan. You can make it -- you can make getting there harder. You can make getting there more painful.

But if we trust in him, great and glorious things are going to happen. Because of this.

LIZ: Charlie once said --

GLENN: Go ahead.

LIZ: Charlie once said, when someone asked him what he wanted to be known for the most -- and he wore a lot of hats, so he could have picked a lot of different accomplishments and identities. And he said he wanted to be known for his faith.

And that's -- it's so powerful. You and I are clinging to God right now. Everyone sitting here with us is clinging to God. I'm literally sitting here, gripping a rosary as we talk. Evil happens in our world, and we all ask that question, "Why? Why does God allow bad things to happen to good and innocent people?"

And, you know, as Father Mike Schmitz reminded us yesterday, "When evil happens, that is not God's perfect will. It is God's permissive will, which is very different."

God allowed Charlie's death to happen, but he did not want it to happen. God values human freedom and can bring about a greater good through these allowed events. But God does not allow evil. He uses it to achieve his higher purpose. When sometimes we don't know what that is, and I -- I'm human. I find it very difficult not to have an immediate answer to, "Okay. What is that higher good?"

But it could be testing faith or demonstrating compassion, teaching people how to uphold his perfect will of good.

And if God were to remove evil from the human existence, he would also be removing our free will to love him and to love others. And he knows that despite the evil that he allows to exist in the world, this greater good can be achieved for eternity, which is where Charlie is now.

And, Glenn, there are a lot of bad people online right now. You know, celebrating Charlie's death and saying how ironic it was, that Charlie was killed by a gun when he was a champion of gun rights. But you want to know what the real irony is? The real irony is that Charlie, at this moment in eternity, I guarantee you, Glenn, is praying for those who did this to him.

GLENN: You know, yesterday I said, "I think I might have done the hardest things I've done. I walked to the front gate, and I lowered my flag to half-mast for a dear friend."

And I think that is going to be easy compared to the forgiveness and the compassion and the restraint that is going to be required from all of us in the coming days. I think that's going to be very difficult. And I don't know how you do it, if you don't have God.

LIZ: I don't. I can't imagine moving forward without God. The Bible says, "He is my rock. He is my refuge."

And I can tell you, that that's the only thing that's helping me swim through this fog.

Charlie was such a good man, Glenn. Such a good man. You know, he once actually hired me -- this was a decade and a half ago. He hired me to work for Turning Point USA, but I wasn't going to -- my start date for starting that job wasn't going to be for, like, three months down the road because that's a new financial cycle. And in the interim after we had signed that contract, but before I had started, I got offered my first television job on OIN. And so I preemptively quit on Charlie.

And I remembered talking to him. And saying, "I know this is such a sucky move for me to preemptively quit on you after we had agreed. But, Charlie, what would you do?"

And he was so gracious, Glenn. He was so generous. He said, "You are -- you're going to kill it. You're going to -- you will use this platform to glorify God and save this country."

And he was always so encouraging. Yesterday, I was looking back at our text thread, because for as busy as this man was, he never neglected talking to his friends.

And during some of the most challenging moments in my public life, who was texting me encouragement, but Charlie Kirk? This -- it is hard to think about how to move forward, but one of the things -- and I know that it's hard to articulate clearly in this moment. But one of the things that I know with crystal clarity at this moment. Is we are not going to be silenced by an enemy who harms us.

We are not going to back down. We are not going to be quiet. We are going to honor Charlie's legacy. We are going to care for and love Charlie's families.

We are going to understand in a clearer sense exactly what we are up against. And it's going to -- with God on our side, it is going to lead us to victory, in a way that our country has not yet experienced. Because we do have this binary choice.

The left wants violence. The left wants Civil War.

The left wants to hurt us and kill us.

But what's going to happen instead, is these people in our country. People who are politically apathetic. Or lukewarm liberal. Or maybe right-wing, but not that active in politics, the same thing is going to happen as a result of Charlie's assassination. That happened after the Black Lives Matter riots.

Or after the COVID vaccine mandates. Where people realized that the other side does not want the best for us.

That the other side, during the Black Lives Matter riots, was willing to falsely accuse us of being racists when that wasn't true. Or during COVID, to tell us that we couldn't go to church and worship God. And we had to take their medical products because they said so, and they didn't care about the harm. Glenn, this is that, times one thousand!

People are now looking out across our country, realizing, that there are subversive forces. And not just a radical lunatic madman incident.

There are radical forces who want to kill us. And the awakening that is going to happen, the eye-opening, you are going to see churches filled with people turning to God. You are going to see politics, a swell of good people, who want to stand for normalcy, and common sense. Two million, 5 million, 10 million Charlie Kirks are going to be minted because of this!

And that's hard to picture in this moment, and there will be hard choices to make because we're angry right now and the left is taunting us, but I have so much faith. I have so much faith in what Charlie did and in the prayers that he is going to be bathing our country in now from eternity.

GLENN: I want to spend a few minutes with another friend of Charlie Kirk's and a good friend of our program and -- and mine. Steve Deace, who follows me on Blaze TV. Steve, I know it has been a hard 24 hours. How are you holding up?

STEVE: I'm pretty devastated. I think I have sobbed more, Glenn, in the last 18 hours than I probably did since the night of my own conversion.

GLENN: Hmm.

STEVE: I'm angry, as I know a lot of people are. And there will be a time, after we -- we need to mourn, first, Glenn. Because otherwise the anger will come out destructively. And it needs to come out, but constructively. And I think we have to mourn first. I think Charlie's legacy as a father, husband, friend, patriot merits that. And I think TP USA and his family need that.

In the not too distant future, we're going to have to get the message that was sent here. He was the best of us. We saw him behind the scenes or in public, genuinely kind, generous.

I -- I -- too many pastors and ministry leaders thought they were too good for Charlie and TP USA. Didn't want to get their hands dirty, and claimed they were being super friendly. And yet, he was the one that sought out the seekers. He went to the places that those nicer than God pastors didn't go to. And he took the bullet that, frankly, that's part of their calling. That they're supposed to take. And I hope in a good way, it shames some of them this morning. That they wake up and they realize, that they have slept on the job. And that's judge somebody like Charlie had to do their job for them.

And as Charlie, you know, named his own organization.

This is a turning point. We're never going back to the way things were before. What we do, next, will decide whether or not they are better. And as one of Charlie's biggest -- biggest supporters and donors texted me this morning, we can only pray that out of one, many will rise up.

GLENN: That's a guarantee. That is an absolute guarantee, that that is going to happen.
You know, when the tyrant is killed, his reign is over. When the martyr is killed, his reign has just begun. And make no mistake, for liberty, Charlie Kirk was a martyr. He was assassinated and martyred yesterday.

And -- and, you know, I -- I -- I -- I think -- I hope, that America -- I wish America could know him the way we knew him.

Because he was a -- he was such a generous man.

STEVE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: It didn't matter who you were, or what rank in life you were, if you needed help, he was there. And --

STEVE: Yep.

GLENN: No matter how busy he was, everything stopped.

And he would help you.

And I saw it in him over and over and over again. And I wish people could see that, because it -- you know, this cartoon character, where they're making him into this bomb thrower, he was anything, but.

I mean, he would have the greatest conversations with people. I mean, I could have done it. I couldn't do it. I couldn't sit through that nonsense. But he could!

And he could logically and peacefully have a great conversation, with people who despised him. And that was so important for the healing of our nation. And I really think that that's one of the reasons that he was killed, not just because he was effective at what he did, but because he was healing us. Something that is really vital to happen. He was healing all of those divides.

STEVE: I couldn't have said it better myself. And if you just look on social media and see so many people in our movement, who have such incredible -- people I don't know, people that don't know me, such incredible testimonies of everything you just said in their interactions with Charlie.

You know, we had a very divisive presidential primary. And to be honest, I didn't always handle it well. One of the first people I heard from when it was over was Charlie. And he texted me, and he said, "Don't give up. We need you."

He didn't have to do that, he won. And he's got the bigger platform. He's got the bigger show. He didn't have to do that. But that's the -- those are the kinds of things that leaders do.

And the void that is left here is massive. And at my lowest point I've ever had in my faith, the Lord said something to me, that will stay with me the rest of my life. And he said, "Steven" -- I'm sorry.

"Steven, I need apostles, not assassins."

And I want to share that with your audience because to win the fight that will come after this, that is what will be required. If you know me, this isn't about being a pansy. The apostles rebuke. But they don't seek revenge. The apostles confront. But they don't condemn. The apostles did something that Hannibal couldn't do.

No other civilization in the fertile crescent could do, they conquered the Roman empire. They set the stage for Western civilization. And they did not do it because they were passive, and they sit on the sidelines, and they were nicer than God. And they wear pleated khakis and Hawaiian shirts year around with sweater vests.

They did it because they got their hands dirty. They did it because they did the kinds of things we saw Charlie do: Build infrastructure.
Direct, lead, guide.

I mean, we would have to have a literal conclave, Glenn. And literally, everyone in our business and movement. And come up with divisions to do all the various things Charlie himself was leading and doing in that organization.

I told Charlie at dinner recently, "It's like, you were like, if Rush Limbaugh and the Heritage Foundation had a baby. This is what you and TP USA are."

And that's what it's going to take to fill that void. But I can't -- I'm sure with the size of your audience, my inbox -- my wife is going through it, as we speak, it is full of people. You were right. I have to get off the sidelines. I have to do something. My buddy Sloan over at TP USA texted me yesterday, he goes, "You know, I can't tell you how many pastors we're hearing from. They thought they were too pious for us. Too good for us.
And now the stakes have been raised. They're getting it."

And I'm just so sorry, that it took two little children and their -- and their mom's family away from them for two -- for more people to get the message. And I want to -- I want to specifically challenge my generation, Gen X, no more grunge. No more, we're too cool for school. No more, "Well, everything sucks. Nothing we can do." No more.

That was a 31-year-old man doing the work as a young father and husband, frankly it wasn't his time to do yet. He has other primary duties that he should have been given the benefit of devoting to as a husband father, but our generation has set on the sidelines for too long. We must lead. It is our children now that are grown, that are leaving the nest. We are the ones with the free time.

We are the ones with the discretionary income. It is our time now to leave, to stop bitching and complaining about boomers. And I say that to me more than anybody else.

And to stop looking around like we're still listening to Pearl Jam and Stone Temple Pilots and Sound Garden, and nothing is going to get better. It is time now to lead. This is our moment.

And we are the ones that are in a place to do this with the positions of our families and with our productivity and prosperity. We have to step to the forefront now.

GLENN: Such great good will come out of this, Allie.

I know this is a tough day for you, and thank you for joining me.

ALLIE: Yeah. God is in the business of redemption. He's in the business of thwarting Satan's schemes. He's in the business of bringing beauty out of the ashes. He's in the business of bringing glory to himself, and bringing people to himself.

And if Charlie had had the choice, if someone had been able to come to him and say, okay. This is what your death will accomplish, it will accomplish more people hearing the gospel, it will accomplish more people waking up, I know if Charlie had had that choice, he would have said yes. He would have said, "Yes, Lord, send me." And not only would he have, but he did.

He went into the lion's den, and now he is with the lion of Judah. Now he is with Jesus. And everyone is going to know who he was and why he lived and the gospel that motivated him. And that is the only thing right now that is giving me any hope or any peace or any comfort.

GLENN: I know that all I could think of yesterday was how glorious the greeting must have been on the other side. You know, good -- "Well, done, good and faithful servant."

ALLIE: Yes, absolutely.

And before any of us heard the news, before his sweet wife Erica got the phone call, he was already hearing those words. And I am so happy for him.

I'm so happy that he is with the saints and the martyrs and the persecuted through which the Church of Christ has been advanced for millennia. I'm so happy for him. I'm so sad for us. I'm so sad for us, having gained an incredible person. But we -- we lost a huge presence.

GLENN: That's how I know when people have faith. They don't weep for the dead.

They weep for the lost to themselves and to the world and to the families that are hurting.

They -- they mourn that loss on themselves. But they -- they -- when they think of the person who has died, they know exactly where they are.

ALLIE: Yeah.

GLENN: And with Charlie, I -- I -- I -- I mean, I knew him when he was 17, and he was a good kid, but what a change happened to him.

He -- he was on fire for Christ, on fire for that.

ALLIE: Yes. Absolutely. He grew into over the past five to ten years, such a theologically deep and apologetically astute man of God, as he became a husband, as he became a father, as he became even more of a warrior for truth, and that is really what -- that's what inspired me.

And when I heard the news yesterday, I thought, my thought was, that's it. I'm done. I'm throwing in the towel.

That is it for me. I'm not -- I'm not willing to do this anymore.

And then later after he died, I went through some of the texts that he had sent me over the years. He was always sending everyone. All of these friends. These very encouraging texts.

And he sent me this article from a liberal outlet, that of course, had taken some jabs at me. That had made me anxious. And he said, "Well done. Keep slugging."

And I just know that if he were here, that's exactly what he would say, not just to me, but to all of us.

He would say, "No. You can't get out now. You got to keep going. You got to keep going." That's exactly how he would feel, and that's exactly what he would tell all of us.

GLENN: I've received so many emails from people who have said, "I don't know how to get back up again."

ALLIE: Yeah.

GLENN: And I don't know what to tell them other than, faith in God. Faith in God.

ALLIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: I think if our side, if you will -- boy, I hate that in this context, but if -- if we didn't have God, we would be very much like the left right now.

We would be mired in anger and -- and screaming for vengeance and it would be a really ugly place today.

ALLIE: Yes.

GLENN: If -- if we didn't have God.

ALLIE: Yes. And if Jesus wasn't raised from the dead, like if he wasn't resurrected, then we don't have a hope of a resurrection. If he didn't defeat death, then we can't defeat death. If Jesus didn't live forever, then we can't live forever.

And that's exactly what Charlie always preached. What he always posted on X. What he always said, if you were to be able to text him right now. And say, "Look, Charlie. I've got this really tough thing to talk about today. And I don't know how to say it. I don't know what to say. What are your thoughts on it? What should I say?" I know exactly what he would say, the one word he would text back, and that would be, "Jesus. Just tell them that. Just tell them that Jesus is the only way to fulfillment." That is what he would say. People may not realize that. Every time he went on a college campus, he wasn't just talking about capitalism or Donald Trump, and all those things are important. He shared the gospel.

GLENN: No.

ALLIE: He knew that every single person that walked in front of him, was made in the image of God with a soul that was going to live forever, in one of two places. He desperately wanted the people who hated him to go to heaven. And I just pray that I can have that same boldness for the rest of my life.

Courage, Faith, and Truth: Glenn Beck's Tribute

Glenn Beck pays tribute to his dear friend Charlie Kirk following his tragic passing. With raw emotion and deep conviction, Glenn reflects on Charlie’s courage, faith, and unwavering commitment to truth in a world that often rewards lies. Drawing parallels to America’s founders, soldiers, and first responders, Glenn reminds us that Charlie’s life and legacy demand an answer to the question: “If not me, then who?” This episode is both a remembrance of Charlie’s extraordinary life and a call to action for all of us to stand firm in faith, defend truth, and carry forward the torch of courage that he so boldly bore.

Watch Glenn Beck's Full 3-Hour Radio Show from September 11, 2025 HERE