NOW who will lead conservatives in the fight against the far left?

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell recognized Joe Biden as the "president-elect" from the Senate floor this morning. So, with President Trump currently keeping quiet about his next moves, Constitution-loving conservatives have been left wondering: WHO will lead us now? Glenn says there MUST be a meeting of the greatest minds soon to plan and to gather Americans for our upcoming political battles. Because with Biden in the White House next year, there WILL be battles to fight if we want to preserve the American values we all love. Right now the far-left is destroying our businesses, crippling our economy, and causing our children to suffer. And Glenn says that if a leader doesn't emerge, "we will perish." So, who will lead us next?

This is What COULD Happen If Earth’s Magnetic Poles FLIP

This is What COULD Happen If Earth’s Magnetic Poles FLIP

Some are now warning that the Earth’s magnetic poles are about to flip — something that happens every so often. But is there something different about this pole reversal? And is it a cause for concern? Glenn speaks with astrophysicist Hugh Ross, who clears a few things up about how dangerous this would be and when it would really happen. Plus, he discusses whether a massive solar flare would knock out most of the world’s power grids like a massive EMP and why he believes we'll be seeing more northern lights displays throughout the year.


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Hugh Ross, astrophysicist. He is also the founder of Reasons to Believe and Senior Scholar. He's an amazing guy. And he's been on with us before. He did a podcast before with him. He found -- he found Christ. He found God, through looking at the stars. An astrophysicist is somebody who looks deep into the past. And tries to see what the -- what creation was. What was happening millions of years ago.

Hue, thank you so much for being on the program.

HUGH: Oh, my pleasure.

GLENN: So there is something, and I've been reading something about this for 30 years. It's always fascinated me. But, you know, I'm not a -- I'm not a scientist or anything like it. And so I have such a base understanding of it.

Last week, we had -- we had a major solar flare. Solar flares can affect like an EMP. Can affect our power grid, if they're bad enough.

And we're also going through a time period, where, while the sun was at its peak activity, right now. Our magnetic field is weak, because our poles are drifting at about 40 miles per year. Which is pretty extraordinary, isn't it?

HUGH: Yeah. The pole is moving. It's quite a bit faster than it was the previous century. But it's not out of the ordinary.

So when you do get a reversal of the magnetic pole, you do get rapid motion. We're nowhere near that degree of rapid motion yet.

GLENN: And that could be a thousand years. Right?

I mean, rapid for the earth, could be a thousands of individuals years from now.

HUGH: Yes. It could even be a million years from now.

GLENN: Okay.

HUGH: And there have been hundreds of pole reversals in the past. And none have done serious damage to life.

But it is true, that when you approach, you know, a pole reversal, the magnetic field weakens. Our magnetic field weakens about 6 percent per century. But, again, that's not out of the ordinary. Our magnetic field always varies. It either goes down slowly, or up slowly.

Right now, it's going down slowly. And it may actually turn around and actually go up a little bit.

So the variation of the magnetic field. The movement of the magnetic pole. None of that is out of the ordinary. On the other hand, we can't rule out the possibility we're heading towards a magnetic reversal.

GLENN: So what does that mean? The North Pole becomes the South Pole?

HUGH: Yes. Well, what actually happens is the -- you can think of the earth's magnetic field as a far magnetic to the North and South Pole. That's called a dipole field. What happens is when the magnetic field begins to weaken, it transitions from being a dipole to being a multipole, where you have more than two poles. And that could last for a period of let's say a century or two or thousands of years. And it flips around, and it then becomes north and south. But what is north is now south. What is south is now north.

GLENN: So what does that do?

That whole shift. And let's use a thousand-year timetable. Because we don't know. Could it happen quickly? First of all.

HUGH: It could happen quickly. But that's rare. Usually it's a rather slow, gradual onset.

GLENN: Okay.

HUGH: Because they're watching us to see what's happening. But right now, we're not seeing anything that is really outstanding or out of the ordinary.

GLENN: Okay. So what happens as it starts. I assume they drift. And they're not connected, per se.

Because I think the South Pole is actually moving slower that night north.

As they go towards east and west, right?

HUGH: Well, right now, it's moved past the North Pole. They -- the -- the axis. It used to be in northern Canada. And over the past 150 years, it's moved a little bit past the North Pole. And it could switch and go East and West, instead of North and South. You know, physicists have been mapping this polar wandering of the magnetic pole for quite some time.

GLENN: Right.

HUGH: There's been over 100 reversals in the past history of the earth. And we do know that the magnetic field happens when that happens. It weakens by a factor of ten. But even a factor of ten weakening is not devastating the life.

We can't document a single extinction of the species during magnetic reversal. But it could impact health.

I mean, when you got a weaker magnetic field, you got more cosmic radiation coming in. It's like, if you live in Denver, you get exposed to more cosmic radiation. And your average life span gets lessened by three months.

GLENN: And is that because of all the progressive laws that are there?

HUGH: Well, it could be.

You do get a few more cosmic rays if you live at high elevation. But, hey, you have healthier lifestyles.

GLENN: Okay. So I know that we are -- they've had to adjust the GPS system.

And is that because of the poles shifting?

HUGH: Well, you do to have adjust the clocks because the earth is very slowly spinning down.

So, you know, every New Year's, physicists celebrate New Year's Day by adjusting all their atomic clocks by a few micro seconds. That's all it is, just a few micro seconds.

GLENN: So, but okay. But I've heard that it used to be -- anyway, the -- the end of the story is that they're now adjusting them every six months. Is that true?

HUGH: Yep. Well, that's true. And we're going to have a new set of GPS satellites, that will know where you are to within one or two centimeters. In which case, they will have to make even more frequent adjustments. So the adjustments are tiny.

GLENN: So when I was 25 years old, I read this great book. I have no idea if it's scientifically sound or not.

But it talked about a catastrophic polar shift, that the crust of the earth. That some of the continents may have moved.

And their theory was that Atlantis was Antarctica. Et cetera, et cetera.

What fascinated me. And I know you're a religious guy. When it comes to end times. It says, and the stars will fall.

The only way that I could think of, in God's, you know, magnificent math, to make it look like stars fall. Would be some sort of a shift in the continents. As if we would look up, we would be moving. But it would look like the stars are falling. Have you ever thought of that nonsense?

HUGH: Well, the continents move very rapidly. And so the continents move by a few centimeters per year. So I don't think that's what's happening.

The word there for star in Greek is (foreign language). And that could include meteors. So maybe the stars falling is referring to a meteor shower.

GLENN: Okay.

HUGH: Or it could be referring to the stars bending in light. Like if there's widespread forests and grass fires, that would cause all the stars to -- the sun, moon, stars dim by one-third. And that dimming would happen if you were surrounded by smoke.

GLENN: You know, we're -- we're talking to Dr. Hugh Ross. And the thing I don't like about this interview. Is he's so smart, he makes me look like an idiot. Which nobody does. I usually do that on my own. Hugh, so tell me all of the stuff on the aurora, the lights that we're looking at?

There's -- I've read a lot, and I don't know if this is true. That because of the magnetic field. And if we have a massive.

I think we had a -- I don't even know. An X5 solar flare yesterday.

It was not headed in our direction.

That that kind of stuff could blank out everything. It's like an EMP.

HUGH: Yeah. That could happen. 1859. There was a huge solar flare, that struck the earth.

And knocked out telegraph systems.

If that were to happen today, that could knock out most have the world's power grids. And that would mean you would be without electricity, not just for a few hours. But for weeks. Months. Maybe even years.

And that would be catastrophic. Because today, we're very dependent on electricity. Think of refrigeration. You've got no refrigeration. What does that do to your food supply?

GLENN: Right.

HUGH: And that kind of flare happens about once every one or 200 years.

But, hey, it happened in 1859. And I've written a book, making the point. It would be wise for us to protect our power grids.

GLENN: Amen.

HUGH: There is one that is protected. That's in Quebec.

And it got knocked out in 1989. By a flare like the one that happened just this past Friday. But that's the only protected power grid in the world.

GLENN: In the world?

HUGH: Yeah. They were close to the geomagnetic poles. So they took the most damage. It was $11 billion of damage.

And the -- but they -- they now have a surge protector on it. So it's protected. But if we were to get a flare like we had in 1859, the damage to the US alone, would be over $2 trillion. And you would have millions of people dying.

GLENN: Jeez. The -- the sun is reversing its poles as well. But that happens like every 11 years?

HUGH: Yes. We're at solar maximum right now. Every 11 years, you get more flaring activity, more solar activity. More sunspots. So, yeah. For the next year, we can expect to see more aurora displays like we had last Friday.

And hopefully, we won't get a flare hitting us like what happened in 1859.

GLENN: When does the sun start to go into solar minimum?

HUGH: It will start to go into solar minimum, in a couple of years.

It's an 11-year cycle. So for about a two-year period. You're at maximum. Then you head toward minimum.

And then we're at maximum again.

GLENN: And is there any correlation, in your mind, between the solar activity. And maximum and minimum. And global?


There's really no connection, between what's happening with the sun.

The sun is getting brighter. But it will be a few million years before you notice a difference.

GLENN: So even if the sun very active, it doesn't affect our temperatures or anything.

HUGH: It has no effect. What's happening here at earth, is what you have to watch. Not what's going on with the sun.

Is THIS the REAL Reason Biden Is Debating Trump BEFORE the DNC?

Is THIS the REAL Reason Biden Is Debating Trump BEFORE the DNC?

President Biden has challenged former President Donald Trump to not one, but TWO presidential debates in the most cringe-worthy way possible. Not only does Biden want to circumvent the Commission on Presidential Debates, which would have suggested 3 debates, but he wants to hold the first one much earlier than usual — BEFORE the Democratic National Convention. Glenn has a theory as to why this is: Is he giving the Democratic Party enough time to REPLACE him if his polls keep dropping? Glenn, Pat, and Stu also review some of Biden’s ridiculous rule proposals and Trump’s quick response to the proposed debates on CNN and ABC.


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So let's talk about the debates, just a bit, can we?

STU: Yeah. This is a pretty wild morning today. As they were basically starting with Joe Biden. Releasing a 13-second video, in which he attempted to challenge. I mean, this is the way they were promoting it.

GLENN: Wait. Wait. Wait. Thirteen seconds. And you're saying, he attempted to do something? It was 13 seconds.

STU: Yes. Well, 13 seconds. You would think that would be easy, but he had five jump cuts in the 13 seconds. He could not get the thing.

PAT: Unreal.

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Do we have it?

STU: We do have the video here. This is Joe Biden coming from earlier today.

VOICE: Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. Since then, he hadn't shown up for a debate. Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I'll even do it twice. So let's pick the dates, Donald. I hear you're free Wednesdays.

STU: Get it?

PAT: Yeah. Because a trial going on.

GLENN: What a jerk. When did the presidential debates become MMA?

STU: Well, I don't know. It's a good point. Both, at least MMA fighters look like they could walk to the stage. You know, watching Biden there, it's so bad to see the visuals, Glenn. And I know you don't have eyeballs at the moment. It's a disgrace. It looks like he is about to fall over. He can't get through these sentences. You could tell, he's done these multiple times. They're coming together, the best ones. It looks really bad.

GLENN: How do you know -- I mean this sincerely. Let me give him the benefit of the doubt. How do you know this isn't jump cuts because that's what social media does that makes it cool and viral?

STU: In theory, that would mean he got through this all at once. But you can see him starting, it's not very well-edited, let's put it that way. You can see him starting -- I don't know how to describe this to a non-TV production audience. But you can see it. If you look closely, you could see it.

GLENN: How is that possible, when you have Steven Spielberg now on the payroll, trying to -- trying to make him look good?

STU: They're definitely trying to simulate the typical TikTok thing, which they claim they want to ban, but continue to post on. That's a whole different situation.

But, I mean, it's being presented by the media as, wow. Joe Biden challenges Donald Trump, to two debates.

This is not what is happening at all. We, of course, have a presidential commission for debates, set up. That has been set up. And has been going on for a very long time.

They are planning on having three debates. So Joe Biden is challenging, quote, unquote, Donald Trump. Instead of three debates, two debates. And two debates outside of the commission.

Which he would be, I think, the first candidate since the commission was founded in 1987. To avoid the commission. He wants out of it.

GLENN: And he wants them in the summer, right?

STU: So he wants -- the first -- this long story, as we've been doing the show today, all of this has developed. But basically, you know, Biden posted this horrible video.

Trump immediately. He's like, yeah. Sure. I've been saying I want to do this the whole time. Fine. Let's do it.

In fact, I would like to do more of them. You're easy to win against was basically his response. Then Biden said, okay. Well, where are the dates?

How come you won't agree? Which, of course, Trump had already agreed. Then Biden said, hey. I just talked to CNN.

They want to do one. Which seemed like odd --

GLENN: Wow. That was --

STU: Oddly quick.


That's crazy.

STU: But I should also point out that Biden had a bunch of qualifiers here. One of his qualifiers here for this debate, he wanted to do it outside of this format because they make the rules.

The commission makes the rules. Biden wants to make the rules instead. One of the rules he wants is no audience. He wants it to be in a quiet room, so that I guess people can't cheer Donald Trump.

GLENN: Well, hang on just a second.

Let's, again, give him the benefit of the tout. Everywhere he speaks, there's no one in the room. He's on the campaign trail, there's nobody there.

STU: That's a fair point.

So it seemed like Biden's campaign, and this is going to sound shocking. But Biden's campaign and CNN may have had something arranged beforehand.

GLENN: No. No. No. That's so cynical.

STU: Yeah, it's so weird that they had a date and everything all set up five minutes later. But then long story short, back and forth, back and forth, Trump apparently agreed to this very quickly.

And they have now announced the date of the debate. Which get this, June 27th.

June 27th, which is in 43 days from today.

GLENN: You know why this is happening?

STU: I don't.

GLENN: A, you do it in the fall, it will be Michelle Obama.

And, B, the most important is it will be so far in the past.

STU: I think that's what it is.

GLENN: You don't want to have a bad impression of a debate, in -- you know, October. Or September.

You don't want to have that.

STU: Right.

GLENN: Everybody will forget this.

STU: This is old news. If you do one in June. It goes badly.

Of course, you can always bail on the second one, if the first one goes badly. The second one is supposedly scheduled or loosely scheduled for September. No date on that one yet, or where it's going to be. But Biden is saying he wants to have it on -- he's only allowing four networks to be considered. Which I think is CNN, ABC, CBS, and Univision, maybe.

GLENN: Of course.

PAT: All friendly to Biden and his agenda.

STU: He wants Donald Trump's mic cut off when he's speaking is reportedly one of the things. We don't have the full list, quite yet.

But think about the timing of this. Normally, these things happen in like October, you know. This one is in June, and it is multiple weeks before either of the conventions. The first -- the Republican convention happens on July -- the week of July 15th.

And this debate is happening June 27th. The Democratic Convention does not happen until the week of August 19th.

So way before the debates. Honestly, could easily be before Donald Trump even picks the vice presidential candidate. This debate could happen.

GLENN: Well, I mean, again, Joe has to get it in.

Before Michelle Obama steps.

STU: You're sticking to that one, huh?

You already --

GLENN: Not as much as I was.

The TERRIFYING Reason Why the Northern Lights Were Visible So Far South

The TERRIFYING Reason Why the Northern Lights Were Visible So Far South

Many people across America were excited to see the northern lights in states where they’re almost never visible. But Glenn points out the terrifying reason WHY the light show happened. “We really dodged a bullet,” Glenn says. The massive solar flare that caused the aurora borealis to be visible in even southern states could have caused “a blackout situation.” Glenn breaks down what it would mean if all our tech was to go down, or even just our GPS systems, and also asks why the government hasn’t taken the steps to protect our infrastructure from something like this.


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Well, I know this is probably not on anybody's charts. But seeing the aurora borealis. Is a very big story that nobody has been talking about. Everybody is like, look at the sky. It's so pretty. Sure. But why is it pretty? Why is that happening? This is the first time in 20 years that we have seen the aurora borealis as low and as South as possible -- or, as it was. But we had an event and I talked about it in our meetings, Stu, last, I think Monday. A week ago Monday. And everybody looked at me like I was crazy. I said, there's a huge CME that just happened. There's a huge solar flare that just happened.

Luckily, it was on the side of the sun.

But it was coming our direction.

But not directly.

It was the biggest solar flare since the Carrington Event in what, 1860, or whatever.

STU: Yeah. 1860, sure.

The Carrington Event you're talking about? That's, yeah, 1860.

PAT: How many times have we talked about the Carrington Event? We're all over the Carrington Event.

STU: Well, Pat just started a new podcast called Pat and the Carrington Event.

GLENN: Pat, wait a minute. I'm trying to look, to see through my eyes. But are you wearing a I'm a fan of the Carrington Event?

PAT: Yeah. I am. I do. I have it available in different colors.

GLENN: Available at

So the Carrington Event happened in the 1860s. And we were hit by a massive solar flare. And at the time, the only -- we didn't really have electricity or anything. But we had telegraphs.

Telegraph wire all over the country, burned up. I mean, literally started on fire. From the telegraph, all the way through all of the poles, it just burned out.

And that is, you know, a significant problem with today's electricity and all of our wires.

That -- that could have been a -- a blackout situation.

An EMP. We dodged a bullet. It could have shut down power companies. And power lines all over the country.

All over Europe as well. For at least a year.

The problem we have is: All of our power transformers, it takes them, I think it's a year to build and replace giant transformers. And we don't have extras.

Nobody is thinking about this stuff.

PAT: And we haven't protected our infrastructure.


And it would be very expensive

Bret Weinstein wrote a great article on this, last week. About, you know, he was kind of making fun of how everybody was saying, oh, look at the beautiful sky that will happen next week.

And he was like, it would take so little to protect our infrastructure. And nothing is protected.

We really dodged a bullet.

PAT: Well, this is a few years ago. But they were talking about not just a solar EMP. But an EMP from, you know, a foreigner. A foreign adversary.

And how we could protect our infrastructure from it, for it seems like it was only a billion.

GLENN: I think it's under 5 billion now.

PAT: Yeah. It's dirt cheap in comparison to what we would lose if it actually happened. And they won't do it.

GLENN: You know, that's one of those low probability, high -- what do they call those things?

STU: High impact.

GLENN: Yeah. High impact.

This impact, if we were hit by an EMP. And it takes three nuclear weapons. Launched into space.

Iran could probably do it. You know, when they get their missiles.

PAT: North Korea, yeah.

GLENN: North Korea. All you have to do is put two barges. One on the east coast and the west coast.

You fire two on one. One goes over the middle of America. One goes over the west coast. Then you have another on the east coast.

It takes three missiles, detonated at the right altitude, above America. You would shut us down. And in the first year, 95 percent of our population would die.

PAT: Yeah. Because we're back to the cave time.

GLENN: Stone Age!

PAT: You don't have refrigeration. You don't have transportation.

GLENN: And you cannot repair it fast enough. Because we didn't protect anything.

This is one of the craziest things.

Congress. You're spending money on so much. A turtle tunnel. Spend $5 billion to protect the infrastructure.

PAT: It doesn't make sense not to.

GLENN: No. It doesn't.

STU: It seems like one of the basic things that government is designed to do. There's a lot of things they're doing that they're not supposed to do. Wouldn't this be something that falls into the category of must do?

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

PAT: Yes. And how often do they talk about infrastructure and bridges? We have electronics that could be protected, and they're not being protected.

GLENN: To an that this -- this solar event could have knocked out all of Elon Musk's satellites. They were afraid of those. And all of our GPS.

PAT: Jeez.

GLENN: Do you know what would happen if we lost all of our GPS?


GLENN: So the GPS. Our magnetic field is so far awry right now, that it's about a 30 -- a 30-degree switch, and so it's drifted about 30 degrees.

Okay. So it's not up at the poll. At the top and the bottom.

It's 30 degrees off.

And because of that, it's causing all kinds of holes and thinning of our ionosphere.

So, you know, all of this stuff, can come through.

And we have such a problem with it. It's moving so rapidly, we used to have to adjust our GPS I think it was every five years. Now it's every two years. Because our polls are shifting, it's then a year. It's now every six months, we have to reset our GPS satellites. The poles are moving that rapidly.

Why Michael Cohen’s “BOMBSHELL” Melania Trump Testimony Should NOT be Trusted

Why Michael Cohen’s “BOMBSHELL” Melania Trump Testimony Should NOT be Trusted

The mainstream media is gawking over testimony from Stormy Daniels and former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen former president Donald Trump’s hush money trial. But despite the media’s insistence that Cohen dropped “bombshell” revelations about Melania Trump, there’s a good reason we SHOULDN’T believe a word he says. Glenn, Pat, and Stu explain why Cohen should have lost all credibility years ago and why salacious testimony should have no place in this case. Plus, they review the telltale signs that Trump’s trials are more akin to the Soviet Union’s propaganda machine than American “democracy.”


Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: It looks like -- I mean, no pun intended, but absolutely intended. Looks like the Stormy Daniels case is a bust, in some ways. I mean, you know, it's a New York -- it's a New York jury.

But I don't know if you saw what Bill Maher said over the weekend. About, you know, how the prosecutors have blown it -- I hate.

They have screwed it. They haven't done their job very well.

And Michael Cohen took the stand yesterday, right?

PAT: Yes, yeah.

STU: And today.

PAT: And CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, seemed to take it, everything he says, as if it was gospel truth.

GLENN: I mean, he was lying before. But now he's telling the truth.

PAT: Right. Now he's honest Abe.

GLENN: I saw that. He was splitting rails on the way to the courthouse.

PAT: Yes.

GLENN: It was weird. And returning a penny.

PAT: Yes. Walked 5 miles to return a penny.

PAT: I mean, it's really amazing. I mean, Stormy Daniels had no credibility. This guy has no credibility. And I think Trump's lawyers have done a decent job showing that. But they're still getting bludgeoned. It's still New York.

And they have all the media on their side.

So I don't know how this will go. But if he gets past this one unscathed. Then I think it's smooth sailing for maybe the next four years. It will be a while.

GLENN: It is absolutely amazing.

You know, they started with, he's got 9,874 billion charges against him. And he's skating past them all.

PAT: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: They're just all falling apart.

STU: They're all at least getting delayed until after the election, which is really the only important thing at this point. He can worry about the other stuff later on. And he probably will have to worry about it later on.

GLENN: If he lost the election, every single one of these things would just go away. Just go away.

STU: Probably true. If he decided, you know what, I'm not going to run. I'm done with this nonsense.

I don't think any of these charges occur.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: It's so obviously about this particular election. And, you know, they waited for so long, for most of this stuff, to be filed. And for them to even go after it because they were waiting for him to announce he was running.

And once they announced he was running, they scampered as quickly as they could to put this together. And it's all shoddy. It's pathetic.

I mean, most of these charges against him, were charges that they had previously themselves, in this case, decided not to pursue. You know, they're tying it to -- to other crimes, that have not even. He's not even been charged with.

And they won't even identify, in the middle of the trial. And Michael Cohen is probably the most ridiculous example of this.

And we've said this at the very beginning with Michael Cohen. This is back when he was still an ally of Donald Trump. There was no reason, to believe anything that comes out of Michael Cohen's mouth. He says whatever he has to at any given moment, to benefit himself.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: You know what is amazing?

At least we're consistent. We didn't believe him, when he was saying good things about Donald Trump.

We don't believe him when he's saying bad things about Donald Trump. He has no credibility.

STU: Yeah. I mean, he's gone on every single side of this. Of course, at the beginning was saying, how wonderful Donald Trump was. And how perfect he was.

And he was the greatest president of all time. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Just stuff that is typical, over the top praise. And I think a lot of people missed this.

But once they had their falling out. He turned into like a resistance guy.

And to -- with the still -- the same absurd persona. Where he was like, you know, this guy, who is an Oompa Loompa. And you're going to run against him as a Democrat?

Like, I'm serious. This guy went completely insane, like beyond Keith Olbermann levels of opposition to Trump. And then when this whole buildup came up to this.

People in the media, rightly noted that that persona of, you know, he's an Oompa Loompa, is not going to work on the stand.

So now he's reworked his persona again. Is now on the stand, with this very calm, measured tone of a man just trying to get to the truth.

GLENN: He was very hurt.

STU: He was very hurt.

And his ego has been bruised. And his family. Blah, blah, blah.

How can anyone believe this? He was just on TikTok like three months ago, as a completely different human being.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: You know what, can we get a cut of those for tomorrow?

Let's make a compilation of how insane he went.

STU: Yeah, for sure.

PAT: We could.

STU: Pause there's plenty of stuff to choose from.

PAT: And CNN is accepting everything as if it came out of the Bible. They're talking about this bomb he dropped in court. That Donald Trump didn't care if Melania was upset about his affair with Stormy Daniels.

Because he wouldn't be on the market for very long.

GLENN: I don't believe that.

PAT: Now you buy that? They certainly do. CNN is all over it. MSNBC is all over it.

GLENN: I've always thought Donald Trump was a guy who was like, hey, baby. And maybe he is, I don't know.

But with Melania, I think he really respects her. I really do.

PAT: Yeah.

GLENN: I think it bothers him, when people don't show her the respect that she deserves. And I think she's -- she's no dummy. She's absolutely no dummy.

PAT: No. She's not.

STU: No. But, I mean, look, I hope their relationship thrives. It's got nothing to do with this case.

PAT: Me too. No.

STU: It has absolutely nothing to do with what we're supposed to be talking about. Their relationship is between them. Right?

This is -- this is a case about business records. This is a case about business -- it has nothing to do with whether Donald Trump cares about his wife or not. It has nothing to do with that. It might be important to us or them. It has nothing to do with this case.

And they keep pushing it down this road.

GLENN: Because he has such problems with, you know, suburban women, that's why they're doing this.

It has nothing to do with the actual case of money.

The -- the -- I'm if we saying the New York jury is going to find him guilty. No matter what it was. But they're making this so salacious, because they're hurting him with women.

They're trying to make him look into just an absolute pig. So they hurt him even more with women. This is all political.

We are living in the former Soviet Union, in many ways. When it comes to the media and our court system on Donald Trump. That's exactly what's happening.

STU: Do you think, Glenn, there's a snapback effect to this, if he is able to somehow get through these charges, and not be convicted by a New York jury?

GLENN: How do you mean a snap back?

STU: Like we've been talking for a lopping time. At least the media has. If he's convicted of a felony. There's a certain percentage of people, who will not vote for him.

And that shows up in polls.

I don't know that you could take it seriously, honestly.

I don't think people correctly predict their emotions in a moment like that.

But take it for what it's worth.

That's what everyone has been saying.

And, you know, the idea here, obviously, is to hurt Donald Trump with all these charges.

Make him look like a felon. Make him look like this terrible criminal.

STU: If now -- you know, after being told, there's 11 billion charges coming his way. If they can't get one conviction before the election, does this snap back against them and turn into a massive positive, for Donald Trump, electorally?

GLENN: I don't think so.

If they find him not guilty on this, then I think there might be.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: You know, it's interesting to me, more than a snapback, it's interesting to me, you're not hearing. At least I'm not hearing. Maybe they're saying it. But I don't listen to them. So what do I know?

I haven't heard a big movement on how he has conned the courts. He's done all kinds of illegal or unethical maneuvers to get things delayed.
I haven't heard that. I think people just know, this isn't working. This is all a sham. And it's not working for them. And the -- it will just be neutral. It just won't matter.

PAT: We went through some of the numbers yesterday. And it certainly looks like, at least in the swing states, this is -- this is working in his favor. Right now. Like he's gaining sympathy.

GLENN: Can I tell you? I heard this morning, they say he fell asleep during the court.

PAT: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And he said he didn't. I think he should have said, yes. What? There's nothing happening here. I took a nap.

STU: I mean, it pushes I think against his sleepy Joe criticism.

Which is why supposedly he -- he likes the idea. He's the high energy guy. And everything. Which we all know. And I think is true.

But I would be bored out of my mind.

GLENN: Oh, that's what I mean, though.

He is high energy.

He has been attentive on all of this stuff.

I think he could have used that as, do you know what's going on?

I don't have to worry about it. I was a little tired because I was out, you know, campaigning.

And I was doing this. And doing this. And I had nothing else to do. I could have made origami. But I decided just to take a nap.

PAT: I think that would be a smart move right now. Because Biden is trying to use the falling asleep in court. He's the worst. He's calling him sleepy Don now.

GLENN: That's so clever.

PAT: Isn't it? Isn't it? Yeah. Because Donald has called him sleepy Joe. So he's done it back. Can you believe it? All creative and clever.