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PROPAGANDA EXPOSED: No, Trump didn't call for Liz Cheney’s execution

Some in the mainstream media are claiming that Donald Trump (who survived 2 assassination attempts) called for the execution of former Rep. Liz Cheney by firing squad. But Glenn and Stu review the clip and explain why that’s an outright LIE. Trump was clearly suggesting that Cheney wouldn’t be a “warmonger” if she actually experienced war herself. But the media has become a propaganda arm for the Democratic Party, so it will keep on lying its way to the election …

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GLENN: I was thinking about the Liz Cheney thing you talked about earlier.

Where Donald Trump -- who would have thought, Glenn. That, by the way, the source of all violent rhetoric was the person shot on stage?

It's odd!

Really, Shyamalan-esque, with that twist.

GLENN: Really weird. That's the only reason they're making a big deal out of this.

That and -- that and they want to say, he's a fascist, that will shoot everybody who disagrees with him.

STU: Right. It just seems like a strange approach, to say, well, you know, our closing argument is? He is going to shoot Liz Cheney!

He's almost been shot multiple times in front of our eyes. It doesn't seem like the right approach.

GLENN: And he wasn't given a gun, by the way. He was recommending -- he was talking about war.

Give her a gun. And have nine rifles, you know, target her.

Let's see how she feels then.

He's talking about war.

STU: It's a very standard. Honestly, liberal talking point about war.

And Trump has been this way consistently for a very long time.

He probably made that same point about Bush and Cheney in 2004.

Right?

I mean -- but I was thinking about this, as everyone was doing the Liz Cheney thing. And she's on stage, campaigning with Kamala Harris everywhere.

Can you imagine. We all have a use for a time machine.

Okay?

Sure, going back and killing Baby Hitler is something you might do from it.

But one thing I have to put in the rotation. If I had the time machine. Go back to 2004, 2005, and just tell Dick Cheney, what is going to happen in 2024. That he and his daughter are going to be the heroes of the left. What a freaking bizarre thing!

GLENN: Oh, he was Darth Vader.

STU: He was the most hated person in the world.

GLENN: He still is Darth Vader to them.

STU: Now that he's endorsed Kamala Harris. I don't think that is --

GLENN: You think he's going over to dinner at people's houses? You think they fully embraced him? No way.

STU: I don't know. Maybe. I kind of feel like --

GLENN: Of course. They're for -- they're for big business now. I mean, they are everything they ever said they were against.

STU: And I feel like, you know, the -- Dick Cheney's comments have been. He did endorse Harris.

Which is incredible.

GLENN: Incredible.

STU: But, you know, his comments weren't -- haven't been as egregious as Liz Cheney's. Who, again, we should remind everybody.

It's not like a Never Trumper. It's not like the person who is like, I don't know about this.

Liz Cheney voted for Donald Trump in 2020! This is a person who wanted Donald Trump to be president right now!

That was her vote. And here she is, as the most -- she's gone completely off the reservation. And I was thinking, how many -- how many of these stories can we tell like this?

Roseanne Barr would be one of them. Roseanne Barr couldn't stand you at one point.

GLENN: I don't think we need to --

STU: She's not on the phone yet. I can talk about this. She's probably asleep.

No. But she -- is it Arguing with Idiots.

GLENN: Yeah. Here it is. Here it is. Glenn Beck, he's a vampire and a death lover. That's what Roseanne Barr said about me.

STU: Right. It was used about, we always put quotes on the back of these books. Keith Olbermann. You know, many of these people still hate you.

GLENN: I'm proud.

STU: Whoopi Goldberg. Which, by the way, called you a lying sack of dog mess.

GLENN: Yeah, she's a piece of --

STU: Keith Olbermann.

Only in his wildest dreams could an actual suicide bomber hope to do as much damage to this country.

There's all sorts of great stuff like this. And we do this for several books in a row.

Roseanne was one of them. I want to say, RFK Jr. was another one, on one of the backs of the books.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, I think he called for my execution.

STU: Well, he did want you dead at one point. I don't think he does anymore, though.

GLENN: No, he doesn't, and I kind of liked him!

STU: Yeah, it's just -- it's weird how this stuff happens. It really is.

GLENN: It is. That's what we were texting back and forth, yesterday, Roseanne and I. And I was like, weren't you a Communist at some point?

Didn't you -- weren't you, hey, go Marx!

And she was like, no, I went to the Occupy Wall Street thing, to see what they were doing.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And she said, and everybody roped me in to that movement.

She said, I saw them as rich kids, protesting daddy, who worked on Wall Street. She said, I hate the corruption in the big businesses.

She's like no commies, man. I want a return, right?

STU: I don't think that's right.

GLENN: I know!

I think that's revisionist.

STU: We will have to ask her about this. If my remembrance is correct here. She ran for the green party nomination, and did not win it. And actually did wind up being the nominee at the peace and freedom party, which is legitimately to the left of the Green Party.

It is an outward Socialist Party!

Now, a lot of people, sometimes you take a nomination because it's convenient. They've got a ballot and a line somewhere.

That stuff could happen, so it could be something like that. I don't know. But that's what I remember from the situation. You know, but who knows?

GLENN: Now she's the queen of the garbage people.

STU: That's crazy!

GLENN: I know. Crazy!

STU: Tulsi Gabbard.

Tulsi Gabbard was running Bernie Sanders' campaign in 2016 in Hawaii.

GLENN: By the way, I will take -- I will take one Tulsi for the entire Cheney family. That's a good trade.

STU: I like that.

I will -- some of these figures, that we've been embraced, I'm not a big fan of. Tulsi I like though. She's just really -- she's smart. I like how calm and balanced she is.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Even though, I don't think I agree with her on a lot of things.

And I am, I will say, concerned if Trump wins. That some of these people will have roles that are a little bit too large about --

GLENN: You know what he said about RFK?

STU: Yes.

GLENN: His people came out and said, he's not talking about a cabinet position. And he said RFK doesn't want one. He will put him in charge of studies and coming back, show us what the problem is.

STU: But what I liked about Trump's comments on this. Is I don't want him anywhere near the environment. Good. As long as --

GLENN: Good. And he's openly saying it. He's not trying to convince anybody -- which I absolutely love.

Let me ask you.

Who is the brain trust around Kamala Harris?

STU: I mean, it's --

GLENN: Right. You don't even know. You have no idea.

STU: Because all the people in the Biden administration hate her. Now, some of them I'm sure are trying to latch on to her now. But they've been leaking bad stuff about her for years. She has a couple of people around her. Her sister is a big one.

GLENN: Right.

STU: I don't know. Tim Walz?

GLENN: Right.

STU: He was a football coach once, sort of.

GLENN: You have Tulsi, you have RFK. You have Elon Musk.

STU: Uh-huh. Yeah. That's one. Another one. Like Elon Musk is a guy who is -- who has the biggest electric car company in the world.

Why?

Because he wants to stop global warming, so much.

GLENN: Right.

STU: He's building spaceships, so he can go to Mars one day, to avoid the potential output of global warming. And like, that's probably the one I'm most excited about it.

You know I can't stand the global warming stuff. But like, him with the idea of him just taking a butcher's knife to the size of the government.

And just going after waste, and all that. I think is legitimately really exciting. I mean, we can see a major, major change.

GLENN: Oh, I think, especially if you get the Congress. If they have the Senate and the Congress, massive change is coming.

Massive change. And change that honestly, the left used to say, they wanted.

You know, all that -- let's end the wars. Let's audit the Pentagon.

Let's make sure that big corporations aren't in bed with the government. I mean, this is all stuff.

Let's restore the Bill of Rights.

STU: Oh. That would be nice.

GLENN: I mean, that's all the stuff the Democrats used to be for.

I think most Democrats in the country, are still for that.

You know, they were talking about this suppressed voter that -- did you see the story?

Where is this? Yeah. AOC. AOC is encouraging female voters, who are decidedly siding with Harris. While more men are voting for Trump than previously.

She said, you should leave Post-It notes in bathrooms for these fearful women in red states.

This is real. Your vote is anonymous and confidential. Who you vote for, is your secret. No one knows, unless you tell them.

Like, really? You really think that women. This pisses me off.

STU: It would piss you off more if you were a woman.

Oh, they don't think I have enough pride in myself, to tell people who I voted for, honestly.

GLENN: And honestly, what they're trying to say is we know your husband is oppressive.

STU: Bad. What a surprising message from the left.

GLENN: He will beat you if you vote for Kamala Harris.

That's what she's saying.

STU: It's pathetic. It's the same type of message of, we will make sure black people can't -- don't need IDs to vote.

Right?

It's the same nonsense. It's just demeaning and disgusting.

You know, what -- they're like, where are the strong women on the right?

What women are you talking to?

What women are you talking to? That are terrified to tell their husband to vote.

What person is this? I don't know anybody like that. I don't know anyone like that.

GLENN: I know a woman who is afraid --

STU: There's more to this story?

GLENN: Yeah, who is afraid now, afraid to express who they're voting for. Broadway actress -- and I think I'm getting this name right.

Kari Melacos (phonetic), avid supporter of RFK.

She just pointed on -- posted on Instagram, that she's voting for Trump.

So all of her friends in show business, all of them saying, it's a no for me.

I'm so deeply disappointed in you. What a loss!

I met you performing at a fundraiser for Hillary. Was that just a show to further your career?

Wow, this deeply satisfies me.

STU: Oh, the career progress of being a Trump supporter on Broadway.

Oh, my gosh! The glory that comes in from that decision.

What kind of idiot even writes that?

GLENN: I'm not sure how you've reached this decision, or what brought you to this place.

But I'm sending you love and hope, that you will think of the rights of me, my husband, our daughter, and reconsider your position. You sold out your friends for a gig?

I'm completely shocked in reading this. Thank you for showing us who you really are.

What it is you value publicly! There's nothing worse than a wolf in sheep's clothing.

STU: None of these people are married to this woman, right? I don't think.

GLENN: Right.

STU: I'm not saying you don't get pushback, by saying who you vote for. Of course, you do. But like, if you're in a marriage, where that's going on. Probably not a good decision at the very least.

GLENN: Well, if you're in a marriage where you don't feel comfortable in saying who you are voting for.

STU: You're probably in an abusive marriage, or something close to it.

GLENN: Yeah, close to it, if not an abusive marriage. Or you're in a marriage that you won't work.

If you're afraid to tell your spouse anything, you're in a marriage that's not going to last.

STU: I don't tell her about my heroin habit.

Does that mean we're in a bad marriage?

GLENN: No, heroin is completely -- because that does good in the long-run. Really.

STU: It's a troubling sign, let's put it that way. It's a troubling sign, though.

GLENN: Troubling sing, yeah.

STU: By the way, I love this headline.

Because you mentioned, you know, to Congress. Can control Republicans.

This shocked me. This is from the New York Times. It's an eight-minute 41-second read, if you want to go through it. So A couple thousand words. Right?

Not a short story. Here's a headline: A unified Republican Congress would give Trump broad power for his agenda.

GLENN: Oh.

STU: Now, that's just describing our system of government. That's all that is.

That's all that headline says. Now, I find it fascinating for that reason. Because it doesn't tell you anything.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Of course, if Donald Trump wins and Republicans win back the Congress, he's going to have power, to implement his agenda.

That's literally how this works.

GLENN: Assuming the G.O.P. is not the G.O.P. of the past.

STU: Right. Right.

But they should, in theory, like tax cuts. That was part of his agenda. They got control of Congress.

What happened? They passed tax cuts. Yes, that's how this works.

But like, you could write this article, very easily the opposite way. A unified Democrat Congress would give Kamala Harris broad support for her agenda.

But that's not scary to New York Times readers.

GLENN: Right.

STU: Right stop they write it this way. Even though, it's obviously true both ways.

It's scary to the New York Times readers. So they write it this way, to terrify you for a victory for Trump.

GLENN: When was the last time you picked up a New York Times?

STU: Like a physical copy. It had to be at a hotel.

GLENN: Yeah. I was at a hotel yesterday.

And I picked up a physical copy. Oh, my gosh, it's worse. It's worse when you're actually reading -- sitting there.

You pick it up, and you read it. And the whole front page is like, clown country.

It is just crazy!

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EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

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Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

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Dershowitz SLAMS ‘expert’ lies in explosive trans surgery debate

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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