RADIOMay 04, 2022

SCOTUS leak is already UNMASKING the dangerous far-left

A draft decision from the U.S. Supreme Court was leaked late Monday, showing a majority of the nine justices may be ready to overturn Roe V Wade. The source of the SCOTUS leak remains unknown, but the fact it happened at all is demonstrable of ANARCHY, Glenn explains. And now, how the far-left already is choosing to move forward from it — like Bernie Sanders calling to pack the court — could UNMASK their dangerous beliefs. Could the far-left use THIS to further burn our cities to the ground?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Wow. Holy cow. Holy cow.

Last night, something happened that I thought would not happen in my lifetime. Something that I think actually -- it's going to be -- it's going to be rough getting through all of this. But I think that this is something that may have given us more time.

Or at least some blessings. We effectively stopped abortion last night, at least in some states.

Any state that decides, that they're not going to provide abortion, or they're going to make it illegal. That's fine.

You're going to see California and New York, I think after birth abortions are going to be in -- in the legislative body very, very soon.

Now, this was leaked, and that's another story. A big story. There's only about four people. That could have leaked this.

I talked to some people, that know people on the Supreme Court, and very close last night. And they were livid. Livid.

They said, this is -- this has not happened. Now, this has happened with the first Roe vs. Wade decision. But that happened like an hour before. And it didn't release the whole decision.

This is clearly, clearly to ignite our streets on fire.

And it was clearly done, by a -- well, I shouldn't say this. It is most likely done, by a left-leaning court clerk.

That person should lose their law license. They should never be able to practice again.

They should not be held up as a hero. And they will be, by the left. If Roberts does not do an investigation, and does not out this person, fire this person, and make sure that they lose their law license, then the Supreme Court is not safe. In anything that they do.

Now, we don't know for sure, that this is going to last. And that is the reason for the release. This is the opinion. It is very well thought out. I read all 90. Or 95 pages this morning. It's very, very well thought out.

It has -- there's just no way around it. It is very, very bulletproof, because it uses even Ginsburg's words about Roe vs. Wade.

And -- but it does not ban abortion. It gives it back to the people, where it says, it belongs.

STU: So just to set the foundations to this. You believe -- and I think we seem to know that it is, a legitimate document.

GLENN: It is a legitimate document.

STU: It did -- it was written by Samuel Alito.

GLENN: Yes.

STU: We know that it looks like five justices are voting for it. So we're siding with --

GLENN: Right before.

STU: Yeah. The three liberals were against it.

Then John Roberts was --

GLENN: Undecided.

But 5-4.

STU: It's 5-3. And him on the side. One of the reasons, of course, the speculation is if Roberts is trying to crack a third way. That will maybe uphold the Mississippi law. But maybe not completely uphold Roe vs. Wade.

This document clearly states, over and over again.

It is not. I think it actually throws Obamacare, into question. Although, it does say at the end of the document, this is not -- this -- this ruling, should not be interpreted to affect any other ruling.

But the way it's -- the way it's laid out, it -- it clearly should affect Obamacare.

We are not a legislature. We are not a political arm.

Our job is to interpret the law. And to see, based on the Constitution, if there is this right. And it takes apart, the right to privacy. All of this stuff. And says, that that is -- this was a dubious, at best, back in 1972.

STU: Egregiously wrong from the start, I believe was the quote. Which was very powerful. And it's been used multiple times, in abortion rulings in the past.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: The difference, of course, between Obamacare and Roe vs. Wade. Is Obamacare is at least the law that was passed.

GLENN: Yes, correct. Correct.

STU: In a somewhat legitimate fashion. Roe vs. Wade is made up.

GLENN: Correct. And purely from the Supreme Court.

STU: Right. They're saying here, states can come back and pass laws.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: That's how this should happen. So this is not going to eliminate abortion.

The far left, Bernie Sanders, for example, is arguing hard today. To -- to act that this is the justification to overturn the filibuster. And then you would be able to put a national law in.

GLENN: And you would also pack the court.

STU: You would also pack the court. And do all sorts of things. Where, this is it, for them. The left really wants children not to be born. So they'll do whatever they can on that.

GLENN: Well, Planned Parenthood said, abortion is sacred. Just so you know, when there are things that are sacred, you're into religious territory.

This, they believe, is sacred. So abortion is up on the altar. I think that's -- I think you're going to see the left completely unmasked now.

If they pack the court, that is the -- that is the last thing.

No government has ever recovered from the courts being packed. Check out Venezuela. What do they have? Like 47 judges?

Something like that. Yeah. They just started packing the court. And it's crazy. No government has ever survived that.

That is the road to totalitarianism.

STU: Thirty-two.

GLENN: Thirty-two. Yeah.

STU: Yes. And --

GLENN: And what did they start with?

STU: I don't have the whole list. But that's where they're at now.

GLENN: So the left is being unmasked. They want an end to the filibuster. Which means, they just want straight up, you know, 50 -- 51, 50. They don't want anybody to be able to slow things down. That's what our Constitution is all about.

Slowing things down.

When people complain, Congress isn't doing anything. That's what the Founders wanted. They didn't want your federal government, doing things.

What they wanted was your state government to do things. That's why this particular ruling, on Roe vs. Wade is so good. It passes it back to the states.

It says, this will never be settled. This has always been controversial.

And no one can force the people into an acceptable position.

STU: It goes on to say, in -- in the ruling -- the draft ruling. Again, we don't -- this is not passed or anything. Or, not put into effect.

But it goes on to say, before Roe vs. Wade, 30 states had decided upon a complete ban.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

STU: And there had been some states, moving in the opposite direction. And this just upended that entire process. You know, there's another world where Roe vs. Wade doesn't exist. And legislatures just passed abortion rights in most of the states. I don't like that world. But that could have happened.

And probably would have happened in a bunch of states over the years. Instead, they tried to upend the process, and say, you're not allowed to have these restrictions on abortion.

And that is, what has made this issue so divisive. When it's life or death, it should be divisive. I have no problem fighting for this one. But there's an argument, where this could have gone a different direction. That's really a good chunk of focus of Alito in the ruling.

He says, look, I --

GLENN: We have no credibility, if we legislate from the bench.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Especially on things that are this divisive.

STU: It basically -- he criticizes the previous court and says, hey. Basically what they did was, hey, you know, this is -- this is a thing that's tucked aside. So we'll just settle this one now. And we just stick with what we say here. But that's just not how it works. That's not how our system of government works.

GLENN: Right. So there are a lot of things in this. We'll give it to you. But Mississippi one.

STU: Not, yeah. I am not of the opinion, that you can count these chickens. And I know when you're talking about abortion, chickens.

Hatching is a big thing.

STU: I want this thing to hatch. The reason this was released, is to put enormous, impossible pressure on these justices.

GLENN: This is anarchy.

STU: It's potentially to encourage George Floyd riots around the country, to change someone's mind. God only knows. I mean, if we have anyone that is a high-level security person, that is not guarding a Supreme Court justice today. They need to be reassigned to that job. Because what the left would do, to have this right, to end so many lives. You can't overstate. You can't overstate, what end they would go to, to try to stop this.

And now they think it's a done deal, but something could be country to prevent it. I fear for all these people.

GLENN: I do too. I do too.

STU: Remembering people, on the left, are insane.

They will do anything to fight for the right, to make sure these children don't live for some freaking bizarre reason, I'll never understand.

GLENN: Can I imagine, had they gone the other way? If it were leaked. I mean, I can't imagine that there was anybody that would do that.

STU: Yeah. Because there's some speculation that somebody on the right did it.

GLENN: Really? Politico.

STU: Yes. And that the argument is, one, that Alito has lost somebody. He might be losing somebody's wavering at the five. And he wants to put pressure on them, to know that they were on the end Roe vs. Wade side.

And let's say Kavanaugh. And Kavanaugh is wavering, and he wants to put pressure on him to say, hey, no. You stick with this. Everyone is going to know, you changed your mind. That's one idea.

GLENN: Right. And, you know what, investigation. FBI. Do you trust the FBI?

An investigation needs to be done. John Roberts needs to call for it. And we need to know who did it. Whoever did it. Whatever side. They're wrong.

That's not the way we deal with things here. If it was someone on the right, you were wrong. You were wrong to do it.

That's not how we do business here. You do not influence the Supreme Court, or threaten the Supreme Court.

You don't do it. Period.

STU: And the idea that the right would do this. The other theory being floated out there, is that conservatives wanted people to kind of be ready for this happening. So it's a sort of -- like they're putting it out there early, so it doesn't affect the elections. There's no way that someone in the Supreme Court would risk this blowing up by leaking it on the right, I don't think. If they thought that they had lost someone. Which is not the news. In the political reporting, they say, this standard of five justices, to overturn Roe vs. Wade, is at least in effect, until last week.

So this was written back in September. It was circulated in February. But as of last week, this was still holding.

So we don't know if something has changed. And that's why it got leaked. I don't believe it. I think it's somebody on the left, to try to get people to change their mind.

GLENN: It was so interesting, how fast, that giant crowd, cut around that Supreme Court, isn't it?

STU: That was really quick, yeah.

GLENN: Really fast. Interesting.

STU: A lot of people live right around there. They had signs.

GLENN: Walking their dogs.

STU: And they brought their signs on the walk.

GLENN: What's weird. They all brought their dogs apparently, which we couldn't see. And their signs for that casual walk. And they were all chanting, pack the court.

Just again, you are going to see the left, fully unmasked. They are not interested in a republic. They are not interested in the rule of law.

They were screening and shouting and chanting, pack the court. This may be -- this may be the place where we separate. And I'll go into that, coming up in just a second.

I think this is where -- I think this is where we might come to blows. And I don't mean that, you know, we're going to have violence on both sides on the street. I think the left is going to use this. This is their catalyst, to do I think what they did before. They just burn our cities to the ground.

And this is on something that I'm willing to die on my sword for. I don't know about you. But I think this is -- this is the most righteous cause, to stand up for.

You know, protecting our children, from all of these lies in our school. Righteous.

Standing up for the right, for babies to be born. And to stop killing. Righteous.

To stand up, against court packing, righteous.

We can talk about tax rates, all we want. And they're important. But there's nothing like this. I think we can morally justify doing every show, every day about this. Until it stops.

Worldwide we're talking about something like a million people were aborted.

GLENN: I want you to know, the only reason why Stu and I were talking about this, because as men, we know now that we can have a baby. We do have an undeniable voice at the table.

STU: That will have died out real fast last night. I was listening to CNN as they were breaking this story, because I torture myself.

And they immediately -- the first act -- what this shows, is that men and women are not equal in this country. Now, I don't know, it may show a lot of things. I don't know how it shows that men and women aren't equal. Men also wouldn't have the right to have an abortion. So I don't know what you're talking about.

GLENN: Men can have a baby now.

STU: And then immediately, it was, you know what, it was these men. They don't understand. Because they can't have children. It's like, wait a minute. What happened to your programming from last week?

Remember of all those lessons you were telling us about how men can have children. Remember how everybody had to put their pronouns on everything, because we didn't even know what genders were.

Now, all of a sudden again, it's the most important thing. Now women are once again, we can tell who they are.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: We're now, again, able to identify women this week. And this week, because it's convenient to their outcomes, once again, women are vitally important. And their special needs are very important. And men can't understand them. Because they don't have -- they can't have babies. They don't have reproductive organs this week.

It's so transparent and pathetic.

GLENN: All right. Back with more. Coming up in just a second. Words from Alan Dershowitz.

And five observations and outlooks from the Supreme Court's likely reversal of Roe and Casey, Daniel Horowitz coming up.

Why RFK Jr.’s Former Running Mate OPPOSES Casey Means for Surgeon General

President Trump’s nomination of Dr. Casey Means for Surgeon General had many MAHA fans cheering. But RFK Jr.’s former running mate, BlazeTV host Nicole Shanahan, has major reservations. She joins Glenn, who has been a fan of Casey, to explain why she believes there are stronger candidates. Means, Shanahan claims, may have “conflicts of interest” because of the “biometric harvesting company” she founded and its close ties to Silicon Valley. Shanahan also questions whether RFK Jr. is playing “political 4D chess,” or if she was lied to when she was promised that the Means siblings wouldn’t be in government. Is RFK Jr. reporting to someone other than Trump? Shanahan explains why she believes it’s possible.

Transcript

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GLENN: Nicole Shanahan. Nicole, how are you?

NICOLE: Glenn, how are you doing?

GLENN: I am very good. It's great to have you here.

So I want to ask you, the Surgeon General thing, are you for Casey Means? Or not for Casey Means?

NICOLE: Well, I will tell you who I am for, Glenn.

GLENN: Okay.

NICOLE: I'm for all of those Americans. Those hundreds of thousands of doctors, seeking truth, honesty, and dignity in our medical system once again. That is what I'm for. That is what propels MAHA into existence.

That's what propels Bobby Kennedy into the position of running for president of the United States. That's why I joined the campaign. It really is about listening to this group of doctors that did the right thing during the COVID pandemic.

That spoke up, when it was dangerous to speak up.

That lost their licenses. And so when I hear from that base, concern or research. About individuals, in and around MAHA.

I have to listen to them.

And I do listen to them.

Because oftentimes, they are right. They're brave, and they're principled. So the concern I've been hearing from that group of people is that MAHA -- you know, any movement. MAGA had this issue too of infiltration by different groups that are more self-serving, than they are for the movement itself.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

NICOLE: And so just one example, Casey Means is a founder of a company that does biometric harvesting. She's very close with many of the big data biometric harvesting companies.

In Silicon Valley. And this -- I noticed with all these people. You do not want them running in a government position that is responsible for everybody equally. Right?

GLENN: So wait. Wait. Wait.

What is -- what is that?

They're harvesting, what?

NICOLE: Well, so biometric data is anything between heart rate data, to all of the data that is collected from your FitBit or high glucose monitor. It could be labs. It could be -- then there's all the DNA harvesting. And big data that's being done.

So, you know, I think that the base -- MAHA really came from medical freedom. And medical sovereignty.

And the idea that we have to keep conflicts of interests. Out of the government.

And so when I -- you know, see some stuff going on. That we could be doing better.

Right?

Our job.

And I learned this from the MAGA base.

Our job is to ton seek the best possible people. For government, that are truly putting the principles of this country first.

The principles of American sovereignty first.

GLENN: So you wrote yesterday.

It's very strange. It doesn't make any sense. I was promised that if I supported RFK Jr. in the Senate confirmation, that neither of these siblings would be working under HHS or an appointment.

And that people much more qualified would be. I don't know -- I'm sorry.

RFK very clearly lied to me. Or what's going on. It's been clear in recent conversations that he's reporting to someone regularly, who is controlling his decisions, and it isn't President Trump.

With regards to the siblings, there is something very artificial and aggressive about them. Almost as if they were bred and raised as Manchurian assets. Wow!

NICOLE: So keep in mind, I was responding to Dr. Suzanne Humphries.

Who was also expressing very similar sentiment.

GLENN: Concern. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

NICOLE: Concern. There's better candidates.

So what's going on? I also heard from other MDs in the field.

That there was another doctor that RFK had wanted for the position. Very, very qualified doctor.

And -- and, you know, he was caught by surprise as well. By -- by this other choice.

So, you know, there's -- again, they -- they don't call it the swamp for no reason. Right?

GLENN: Right.

NICOLE: And, you know, I'm not officially within the administration at all.

In fact, I decided to take the path of staying an independent --

GLENN: Smart.

NICOLE: -- media person. Which I think -- I think and you know this, Glenn. It's really important that when you are an independent media voice, that you -- you stick by your principles. And that you are not just a mouthpiece for any government organizations.

That you're really on the outside, reflecting back the hopes and wishes of the constituents.

GLENN: Yeah. There's -- it's very hard to do.

I mean, I take stances against the president.

And for the president. You always have to -- you always have to balance, you know, I have my opinion.

And I'm never going to be bought out by anybody.

I'm never. But you also want to make sure that you're being fair to the people that you trust. And I know you have trusted RFK for a very, very long time.

And for what struck me on this. Is, you know, I don't know if RFK lied to me. Which I hope he didn't, or what's going on. It's been clear in recent conversation that he is reporting to someone regularly, who is controlling his decisions.

That's a remarkable thing to say, especially about RFK.

Because he does not strike me as somebody who is afraid of somebody else.

NICOLE: You know, I don't know if it's fear or that he's playing political 4D chess. And, again, they don't call it the swamp for no reason.

It's just, at some point, there's certain decisions, that are worth fighting for.

And I do appreciate what a very complex political environment this is.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

NICOLE: And I do understand that even within these agencies, there are groups that are intentionally keeping and withholding information from the new leadership.

So, you know, I -- I fully appreciate how complicated it is.

So I fully appreciate how complicated it all is, but there are definitely things that the base is -- is, you know, like, this is an easy one. This could have gone better. Right?

You don't truly -- and, you know, everyone is guessing what precisely this 4D chess is all about. And why these moves are being made. And trying to anticipate the next one.

But it's something that I think that, you know, there's just certain things that indicate that whomever he's giving -- whoever his chess coach is. Could be making some better decisions for him. And --

GLENN: But Casey.

I mean, when I talk to the twins, during -- or after COVID.

They seemed pretty clear on what was bad and what was good.

They -- they both seemed to be good on -- on COVID. And the vaccines. Didn't they?

Or is my memory --

JEFFY: They talk a great talk.

I will say, I was once a fan of it as well.

It was only after I received many comments from individuals, in and around the transition team.

As well as new research that came up.

And then really, like, you know, when the base expresses these things and provides that degree of inquiry, and it shows that kind of concern.

I think we owe it to them.

GLENN: Yes. I agree. I agree.

ANNA: Yeah.

GLENN: So overall, how do you feel things are going?

NICOLE: I think, again, there's been a lot of focus around food dives. Meanwhile, there's millions of people suffering from vaccine injuries, that still feel very neglected.

So I do think -- I do appreciate the executive order, regarding gain of function and limiting overseas research.

GLENN: And shutting down a dangerous -- and shutting down a very dangerous bio lab here.

NICOLE: Yes. And there are many of these bio labs that are kind of flying under the radar.

GLENN: Right.

NICOLE: So it's a big step in the right decisions sedition. I'm a huge Jay Bhattacharya fan. Probably one of his biggest.

I really am excited for him, as he built out his team.

I hope, he has a very, very strong team around him. In the next coming weeks. Because he's going need to it.

As far as HHS goes, you know, I would love to see Bobby bring in more of those doctors that have been around him for the last ten years, very regularly.

Because these are the individuals that, you know, I -- I trust these people with my life. They have sacrificed everything to do the right thing time and time again.

They are so deeply principled. They will never take a check over helping a patient out.

And they actually do have the answers. So I'm hoping to see more of those people around Bobby too.

GLENN: So I'm wondering because this is the way I feel about a couple of things with the FBI. And Intel.

That if I don't see some people in the next year or so, go to jail, or at least brought in for a fair and honest trial, you know. I don't want to just scoop people up. And just assume that they're guilty.

But build a good, strong case. Bring it to trial.

Have it a fair and honest trial. And let the chips fall where they may.

But if I don't see some prosecution, at least. I think I'm very upset at the G O.J.

Pam Bondi. Head of the FBI. Kash Patel. And I don't -- and I'm trusting them so far, that they are doing that.

Do you feel the same way at all, about -- you know, if you don't see some people who go to jail there, that clearly lied about the vaccines.

If they don't go to jail. You have -- you really haven't fixed anything.

You're just eating around the edges.

NICOLE: Yeah. Yeah. I think that really explains it. And this is why I think it's important to continue to voice those concerns, because they're only going to grow and mount.

And it really is the American people, that were sold this vision of accountability.

And as we want to see it. We have to see it. Anywhere. Several months into the administration now.

HHS, you know, lags behind the Oval Office in terms of getting going.

But they're -- people were seriously injured. There were many crimes committed against the American public.

Crimes committed against our bravest doctors. Crimes committed against children.

We need accountability.

We really, really need to see that.

Because, you know, there's -- there's a preciousness in this moment. We have to -- we have to deliver. This country deserves it.

GLENN: And, I mean, if we're -- if we can't correct the things that, for instance. Washington State. Just passed a law where if there is another pandemic, everybody seems to be, you know, claiming there's another one, right around the corner.

But if there is another pandemic, that they will have absolute control, over what you put into your body. And what you do. That's terrifying.

NICOLE: I do.

And those emergency orders, they will scrutinize them. They have revisions.

GLENN: Washington State just revised it to just codify it. Washington State just codified it. It's crazy.

NICOLE: Yeah. Yeah.

So I would like to see more focus around that, not Red Dye 40 and not Kellogg's.

I'm totally fine leaving Kellogg's alone, in favor of HHS spending. All of its energy. And all of its focus. And all of its leverage, making sure that we are actually properly ready for the next pandemic.

And not to cause the catastrophic harm, that was caused during COVID-19.

GLENN: Nicole Shanahan. She's got the podcast Back To the People. And it's now coming to Blaze Media.

It's the same podcast she's been doing. Now as she says, with a wider reach. Glad to have you.

Nicole, thank you very much.

NICOLE: Thanks, it's a pleasure to come on.

GLENN: We'll talk to you again.

Is America’s Grid a Ticking Time Bomb? Trump’s Energy Secretary REACTS | Glenn TV | Ep 430

President Trump is working hard to right the wrongs of the Biden administration. But did Biden harm our energy grid even more than we thought? While Glenn was on vacation in Italy, two other European countries — Spain and Portugal — suffered one of the biggest blackouts in their history. The mainstream media, as they always do, rushed to blame it on ANYTHING other than the countries’ heavy reliance on unreliable green energy. But Glenn has the receipts and the evidence that leftists tried to make America’s grid just as unreliable. Glenn speaks with Energy Secretary Chris Wright about how the Trump administration is reversing these dangerous policies. Secretary Wright also discusses his department’s discovery that Biden shoveled out $93 BILLION in energy loans after Kamala Harris lost the 2024 election and before Trump could take office. Plus, he comments on Trump’s plans to deal with OPEC, why Trump must refill the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, and why Trump is planning the biggest energy project in American history to help accommodate AI. But first, Glenn recaps the biggest media lies that he missed while on vacation. Topping the list: Are these elitists like Axios and Jen Psaki finally admitting that they lied about Biden’s cognitive decline, or do they STILL not get that their charade is over?

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Is the New American Pope Catholic? | Bishop Strickland | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 256

A new pope has been chosen! As the recording of this episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast" began, white smoke emerged from the Sistine Chapel, signaling the selection of the first American pope. Glenn and Bishop Joseph Strickland react live to the news as the whole world wonders if Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost, now Pope Leo XIV, will continue in the ways of his predecessor Pope Francis or go a more traditional route. Bishop Strickland, who was removed from office by Pope Francis, says the former pope pushed a church “in the world and of the world” and reviews “duplicity,” “corruption,” and potential abuse overlooked by the Vatican, including the infamous McCarrick scandal. The pair discuss the resurgence of the Latin Mass, globalism, the Catholic Church’s approach to homosexuality and gender identity, and whether the Shroud of Turin is an “icon” or a “relic.” As the new pope greets the world, Glenn asks, “If we have a more progressive pope, does that set the Church back?” Bishop Strickland advises that “even if we are disappointed and dismayed,” we must pray and keep our focus on God.

Zuckerberg Wants to Give You AI “Friends” … To CONTROL You?

Meta and Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg has a new goal: to give lonely Americans AI “friends.” But Glenn sounds the alarm: this must NEVER happen! Glenn explains the hidden danger in Zuckerberg’s seemingly kindhearted plan: “AI cannot, must not, and will never be your friend.” Opening that door will only give Meta insane levels of potential for manipulation and control over you.

Transcript

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GLENN: Let's start with this: Mark Zuckerberg. Good guy. I mean, he brought us Facebook.

And, you know, that is the thing that brought all of us together.

Brought out families together. All the people that we lost touch with.

Oh, the world is so much better now that we have Facebook.

So now, he's got another idea. Could we play the clip of Mark Zuckerberg?

VOICE: There's a stat that I honestly think is crazy. The average American has I think it's fewer than three friends. Three people they consider friends. And the average person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's 15 friends or something.

I guess there's probably at some point, I'm too busy. I can't deal with more people. But the average person wants more connectivity, connection than they have. So, you know, there's a lot of questions that people ask.

Of stuff like, okay. Is this going to replace kind of in person connections or real life connections?

And my default is that the answer to that is probably no.

I think it -- it -- I think that there are all these things that are better kind of about physical connections, when you can have them.

But the reality is that people just don't have the connection when they feel more alone, a lot of the time, than they would like.

GLENN: Hmm. True.

Now, let me ask you. Is there a time when you don't remember feeling so isolated? When you didn't really feel like I don't have any real friends?

When you didn't -- you had real connections with people, instead of a million connections with people that are your friends, but not really your friends?

Can you think of a time, way back in history?

I mean, probably have to go back to the cavemen, to find a time.

Oh. Before Facebook, and social media!

When we weren't all killing ourself, because we have no meaning.

Now, from the people who brought you kill yourself, because you've been on Facebook too much.

Brings you new AI friends. Oh, this is going to be good.

By the way, you know, that's a crazy stat, I think the average American has, what? Three friends. And they have a capacity for, I don't know. Fifteen or 20. I don't know.

Really think about it right now.

How many true friends, do you have?

How many true friends?

People that when you are down and out, there is nothing -- the whole world is against you!

That that person will actually stand by your side. And go, yeah.

I'm their friend.

And I don't care what you say.

How many? How many do you have?

I think I would count myself lucky if I have three.

Now, I have a lot of consequences.

I have a lot of people who we all think are friends. But as a recovering alcoholic, I've been there.

I've done that. As a recovering alcoholic,
who then also is a conservative and spoke out about the Obama administration, I know who my friends are.
I know who my friends are not.

And I think there's a lot of people that have counterfeit friends.

If you've got. Oh, I've got ten or 15 friends.

Eh.

No, you don't. No, you don't.

I've always grown up thinking, you're lucky, you're lucky, to have three, five, really good friends.

That will walk through anything with you. Do you agree with that, Stu?

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: You've never been there.

STU: For you? Oh, God no. But I'm just saying, generally speaking. No. I think -- I mean, you're describing a great friend. You're describing a really --

GLENN: A real friend.

STU: Yeah. Like someone you know and stick around for multiple decades.

GLENN: Yeah, I have lots of friends. You know what I mean? I have millions of Facebook friends.

STU: Right. Those aren't real.

GLENN: Right. And I have lots of friends. But the ones that are there for you always, no matter what, I have family.

And I have family.

STU: Right.

GLENN: And I have a handful of friends. I would consider you one of those.

STU: Thank you. I would as well.

GLENN: Why?

Remember, I have a drinking problem.

STU: Yeah. A lot of brain cells killed to make that decision.

But I think that you -- yes. I think the only thing that I think I'm drilling down a little bit on to try to understand. When you say, well, I have a lot of friends.

In a way, I think that's what Zuckerberg is talking about.

It's not even necessarily a great friend that you have for multiple decades. And can count on at any time.

Just the mid-level consequences, are drying up for a lot of people.

GLENN: Yeah. And why is that?

Why is that?

Because we don't talk to each other anymore.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Because of social media.

You know, when this generation says, I don't know.

I just think it's weird. I'm just now in a bar someplace.

And some stranger comes up to me and wants to strike up a conversation. I'm like, hello, weirdo. I don't know!

You think it's less weird to go online?
When people can fake everything!

Thank you, Mark Zuckerberg.

But no thanks. Okay.

STU: And they're just -- to build up on this point for one second.

There's a study that came out, the last 20 years, of how much time do you spend socializing with the people.

Again, that's not with your best friends.

This is just socializing with anyone, a human.

Every single group. Every single group has massive drops.

GLENN: Massive.

STU: Massive drops. Just give you some examples.

Ages. Fifteen to 24-year-olds. Thirty-five-point down.

In 20 years. 35 percent. So a typical 15-year-old, as compared to what they are, in 2003 and 2025, where were the two measurement years?

They're spending 35 percent less time, with other human beings.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on just a second. Can you please stop distracting me? Because I'm trying to figure out why our kids are killing themselves.

STU: No, it's really hard.

GLENN: It's very hard to figure out.

STU: To understand.

And this is the coup de grâce of this entire study, which is, the typical female pet owner spends more time actively engaged with her pet, than she spends face-to-face contact with her friends of her own species.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: That is unbelievable -- not like you're in the same house as your cat.

Right? No. More face-to-face time with your cat!

GLENN: And I've got news for you. If you think your cat is your friend, wait until you die, and your cat is trapped in the house with you and you have no friends to check. They will eat your face.

STU: They will still have a use for you.

GLENN: Yeah. They will have a use foy.

STU: Not the other way around.

GLENN: Okay. Here's why I'm bringing this up today.

This is a lie, that is going to be sold to you, like crazy. And it's going to be wrapped in a beautiful, shiny package. And it's going to have from Mark Zuckerberg and others like him, on the tag.

They want you to believe, that AI and bots can be your friends.