RADIOMay 08, 2023

TEXAS SHOOTING: Was the killer REALLY a white supremacist?

Another gun-related tragedy hit America over the weekend, this time outside a mall in Allen, Texas. And, unsurprisingly, the reaction from politicians and media pundits turned political almost immediately. In fact, despite not presenting evidence to the public, some are now reporting the killer was a white supremacist. But can we trust what the government and the media tell us? And if the gun is to blame me for this shooting, then what about the car that took just as many lives in Brownsville? And why is the media already releasing information about the Allen, TX shooter, but we still know very little about the ones in Las Vegas and Nashville? Glenn and Stu discuss all this, plus more…

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GLENN: So we're looking at quite an interesting weekend just here in Texas. We had a shooter.

STU: Pretty close to here. About half an hour or so. Just a mall outlet everywhere. Now, I've been to every mall outlet area in Texas, I think. So this is not to be notable, but I have been to this place where this occurred before. And it was just like your typical outdoor giant mall. Has over hundred stores in it. It's really an outdoor mall, has over 100 stores. And someone decided to pull up in all black, and just start taking people out.
Thankfully, there was a police officer nearby at an unrelated call, and came over and ended it relatively quickly. But still, a devastating day, and a scary day. There was a mall nearby here, that had basically something else happen. And everybody is freaked out. Because everyone is on edge. So they evacuated another separate mall. Turned out to be nothing. But that's the sort of feeling now, that people have. And look, it's scary. It is. It's really, really difficult to stop though. Really, really difficult to stop.
GLENN: Well, we know he had mental issues. So he probably should have been on medication or, you know, institutionalized.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: But, of course, it's the gun. It's always the gun.
Well, no. Also, it was the car this weekend. We had eight people killed, nine people injured after somebody takes their car and ran into a migrant shelter in Brownsville, Texas.
STU: Yeah. It's interesting. That one is still being reported both ways.
It may have been an accident. It also may have been a drunk driver, they think.
GLENN: It also may have been gang-related. Gang-related. So we don't know what that one is.
STU: It may have been intentional.
GLENN: So far, we don't think that it is white supremacy. It was either a drunk driver, gang-related, accident.
STU: They're trying to say the shooting was white supremacy, though.
GLENN: Yeah. Except the guy was Hispanic. And I'm trying to wrap my arms around this. In fact, I got this from the Daily Beast. Okay. This from the Daily Beast, in 2021. Okay?
STU: Okay.
GLENN: Blah, blah, blah. The FBI began monitoring a Facebook chat group, in 2019 called right-wing death squad, because of violent rhetoric.
STU: Wait. There's violent rhetoric, in the group of right-wing death squad.
GLENN: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe.
STU: You can't trust anybody these days.
GLENN: One of the quotes. I have access to 300,000 pounds of ammonia. I just need a container to store it in.
GLENN: That might be --
STU: If you don't have -- where is it? If you don't have a container to -- I'm just carrying it around my pocket.
GLENN: I don't know. I don't know.
This is one of the courts we could lift from the court documents. That is not the filled with expletives from African-Americans. With one of the men from Arkansas. With the current state of the world, they have become severe pests.
They must be eradicated completely and utterly.
Racism isn't real, whites are the only humans.
This guy who was in trial, he was a guy who wanted to be Timothy McVeigh. Similar sentiments were expressed in the group with hateful messages about Jewish and Hispanic people. So there seems to be a problem with this particular group. With all people except apparently white people.
STU: You're saying, there's a problem with the group, white wing death squad.
GLENN: Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? It's weird. It's weird. It's weird.
So they want to clean up the white community. And we need a new world tomorrow. And the S-word for Hispanics. And the N-word for blacks, need to hang from trees, end quote.
STU: This wasn't the person you're talking about?
GLENN: No. This is the -- this is the article about this group, when another guy was arrested in 2020. Okay?
So he was arrested. Daily Beast, wanted everybody to know. This white guy was after Hispanics. And blacks and Jews. And anyone of any color whatsoever. Now --
STU: Uh-oh.
GLENN: Now you can be Hispanic and a member of this group. So I don't know if they expanded their membership.
STU: Maybe they took the Daily Beast criticism seriously at right-wing death squad. And, you know, we're not as open as we should be.
Look, we should just be accepting right-wingers who want to cause death.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. Amen.
STU: And why do we care about the color of the skin? Bringing people together.
GLENN: So ridiculous.
STU: It is so ridiculous.
And I think too, you mentioned this many times, Glenn. Racism is a human problem. It's not a white problem.
And there's this thing in the media, that they like to do. And act as if other races, other than white people, as if they don't hate other races other than white people.
You know, there's a lot of tension between the Asian and black communities in certain cities, for example. There's a lot of this that goes on.
Hispanics and blacks have their own issues separate from white supremacy.
But because the media has no prism to look at this, other than blaming white-wing extremists and white supremacists every single time. They run into these cross the streams moments, where their coverage makes no sense. You know, look, it's possible for Hispanic people to dislike black people too. It's wrong. Just like it's wrong for white people to do it. You shouldn't make any decision based on the color of someone's skin. That's just stupid.
Unless of course if you're looking for affirmative action, then of course it's completely okay.
Or if it's, you know -- if it's Ibrahim Kennedy. And anti-racism. Then all your decisions can be made on skin color. But other than that, you should make decisions based on skin color, Glenn.
And that's something that we stood by. I stood by that principle the entire time here. I know it's changed. I know the trendy thing, is to do the opposite.
GLENN: Yeah. My whole life is, don't judge people by the color of their skin. But by the content of their character. Which doesn't seem to be real popular. But I still stand by it too, Stu.
Now, let me just throw this question out: Do you believe the government and the media?
When the media comes out and says, we've scrubbed the internet, so you can't see any of it.
And then they come out and say, this Hispanic man just loves to be part of this white power group.
STU: It's hard to trust anything they're saying.
GLENN: Correct.
STU: Especially when they don't give us the evidence.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. And it's strange too that so far, they have a really good batting average on white supremacists.
But they can't find anybody who is bombing a church.
They -- or an abortion clinic.
Because, quote, it happens at night.
STU: Uh-huh. It's dark.
GLENN: Love that. It's very dark. Can't see. Sometimes they wear black.
Now, they can't seem to find that. They can't find the Supreme Court leaker can't find that group.
STU: Oh, it was dark. They leaked it at night.
GLENN: Did they? Okay. So they did it during the day.
STU: Yeah. They did it during the day. But what maybe -- the story came out during the day. Maybe it was leaked.
GLENN: Okay. It's daylight someplace.
STU: It's fear.
GLENN: So we couldn't find that.
We can't seem to get to the bottom of the Hunter Biden thing.
STU: What evidence do we have, other than the entire laptop?
GLENN: And we can't see the -- we can't see the evidence on the Las Vegas shooter. We still don't have a clue. And Nashville.
STU: Yeah. That one is weird.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Can't see that manifesto, even though we have it.
GLENN: Right.
STU: We can speculate about what the Alan, Texas, shooter's manifesto was. Because they're going to go online and find some social media post.
GLENN: But we can't do it.
STU: Not only can we not get the actual information on the Nashville manifesto and see it. They won't even really tell us what's in it.
GLENN: Hey, it's this one. This one.
This one, they know.
This Hispanic is part of a white --
STU: Huge white supremacist. That's the -- that's what you need to know.
GLENN: Okay. I'm just trying to get my arms -- well, let's talk about some real crimes. How about the Marine Daniel Penny, you know?
STU: Hmm. Yeah.
GLENN: Now we have the full videotape. The full videotape. I don't know if you've seen it yet. But it shows him choking the guy out, and then putting him in what is called the recover position. So he didn't just choke him out, like, yeah! He put him in a recovery position.
STU: Or to contrast it with George Floyd, where that didn't end for a very, very long time. This person was obviously trying to bring back the guy he had choked to subdue him. During the attack. He was attempting, outwardly, to make sure, he didn't die.
STU: That's why you have a recovery position.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what it means. Now, there was protests in New York. Lots of lots of protests.
STU: Very dumb protests. We should point out. Incredibly stupid.
GLENN: No justice. No peace.
STU: Saying stupid things. Just this idea -- this idea that it's murder. And, you know, like, they may finds that the New York law does not look favorably on what he did.
I don't know. I'm not an expert on New York law. But I will say.
GLENN: You know why we're not. Because we moved away from there because we were smart. Okay?
Move away from New York.
STU: I was born there. And I do not live there. And for a reason.
GLENN: Yeah. No.
STU: But, you know, they may come up with something and they may get this guy on.
We don't know all the facts of the case yet.
Though, I do think we know for certain, that he and the black guy that was helping him, were not out to murder black people all day. It was not a, hey. Let's go out and execute people for no reason, as it's being portrayed in the media.
And I'm sincerely suspicious of the motivation of the black guy who was actually helping to subdue the guy of his motivation of trying to murder black people that day. It just seems like an odd thing for him to wake up to on his to-do list.
GLENN: That black man is in the same white supremacy group.
STU: Is he in Deathwatch?
GLENN: Yeah. Right-wing -- yeah.
STU: That's why.
GLENN: So it's -- it's -- you know what I'm saying? It's pretty clear.
STU: It's so stupid.
GLENN: That they are opening up, their -- their -- you know, roles for volunteers and members. They're just opening it up. And saying, look, we're not going to let all blacks in. We're not going to let all Hispanics in. Just the ones that hate blacks and Hispanics.
STU: That's so stupid. And it so exposes the left, what they're doing here. Like, this man meant nothing to them a week ago.
When he was out on the subways like the lunatic that he was. Sadly. He had all sorts of mental health problems. He had a very --
GLENN: Long record.
STU: Long record. Over 40 arrests. They kept letting him out anyway. He went through a very traumatic experience early on in his life. Saw his mom murdered. Look, the guy had a terrible life. He was a Michael Jackson impersonator.
GLENN: And it went downhill from there. You know, you don't really ever recover from that.
STU: Yeah. You just think that -- things went downhill from there. If you were a Harvey Weinstein impersonator, I would assume business got bad there for a while, and the same thing happened with him.
GLENN: I don't know.
STU: The bottom line is he should not have been on that subway. He should not have been put in the position where he was threatening people on this train.
GLENN: Yep. Yep. Uh-huh.
STU: And all of left-wing society and media abandoned him until he was useful. Until that moment he was useful, which was, by the way, coincidentally the moment he died.

EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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