RADIOMay 08, 2023

TEXAS SHOOTING: Was the killer REALLY a white supremacist?

Another gun-related tragedy hit America over the weekend, this time outside a mall in Allen, Texas. And, unsurprisingly, the reaction from politicians and media pundits turned political almost immediately. In fact, despite not presenting evidence to the public, some are now reporting the killer was a white supremacist. But can we trust what the government and the media tell us? And if the gun is to blame me for this shooting, then what about the car that took just as many lives in Brownsville? And why is the media already releasing information about the Allen, TX shooter, but we still know very little about the ones in Las Vegas and Nashville? Glenn and Stu discuss all this, plus more…

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GLENN: So we're looking at quite an interesting weekend just here in Texas. We had a shooter.

STU: Pretty close to here. About half an hour or so. Just a mall outlet everywhere. Now, I've been to every mall outlet area in Texas, I think. So this is not to be notable, but I have been to this place where this occurred before. And it was just like your typical outdoor giant mall. Has over hundred stores in it. It's really an outdoor mall, has over 100 stores. And someone decided to pull up in all black, and just start taking people out.
Thankfully, there was a police officer nearby at an unrelated call, and came over and ended it relatively quickly. But still, a devastating day, and a scary day. There was a mall nearby here, that had basically something else happen. And everybody is freaked out. Because everyone is on edge. So they evacuated another separate mall. Turned out to be nothing. But that's the sort of feeling now, that people have. And look, it's scary. It is. It's really, really difficult to stop though. Really, really difficult to stop.
GLENN: Well, we know he had mental issues. So he probably should have been on medication or, you know, institutionalized.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: But, of course, it's the gun. It's always the gun.
Well, no. Also, it was the car this weekend. We had eight people killed, nine people injured after somebody takes their car and ran into a migrant shelter in Brownsville, Texas.
STU: Yeah. It's interesting. That one is still being reported both ways.
It may have been an accident. It also may have been a drunk driver, they think.
GLENN: It also may have been gang-related. Gang-related. So we don't know what that one is.
STU: It may have been intentional.
GLENN: So far, we don't think that it is white supremacy. It was either a drunk driver, gang-related, accident.
STU: They're trying to say the shooting was white supremacy, though.
GLENN: Yeah. Except the guy was Hispanic. And I'm trying to wrap my arms around this. In fact, I got this from the Daily Beast. Okay. This from the Daily Beast, in 2021. Okay?
STU: Okay.
GLENN: Blah, blah, blah. The FBI began monitoring a Facebook chat group, in 2019 called right-wing death squad, because of violent rhetoric.
STU: Wait. There's violent rhetoric, in the group of right-wing death squad.
GLENN: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe.
STU: You can't trust anybody these days.
GLENN: One of the quotes. I have access to 300,000 pounds of ammonia. I just need a container to store it in.
GLENN: That might be --
STU: If you don't have -- where is it? If you don't have a container to -- I'm just carrying it around my pocket.
GLENN: I don't know. I don't know.
This is one of the courts we could lift from the court documents. That is not the filled with expletives from African-Americans. With one of the men from Arkansas. With the current state of the world, they have become severe pests.
They must be eradicated completely and utterly.
Racism isn't real, whites are the only humans.
This guy who was in trial, he was a guy who wanted to be Timothy McVeigh. Similar sentiments were expressed in the group with hateful messages about Jewish and Hispanic people. So there seems to be a problem with this particular group. With all people except apparently white people.
STU: You're saying, there's a problem with the group, white wing death squad.
GLENN: Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? It's weird. It's weird. It's weird.
So they want to clean up the white community. And we need a new world tomorrow. And the S-word for Hispanics. And the N-word for blacks, need to hang from trees, end quote.
STU: This wasn't the person you're talking about?
GLENN: No. This is the -- this is the article about this group, when another guy was arrested in 2020. Okay?
So he was arrested. Daily Beast, wanted everybody to know. This white guy was after Hispanics. And blacks and Jews. And anyone of any color whatsoever. Now --
STU: Uh-oh.
GLENN: Now you can be Hispanic and a member of this group. So I don't know if they expanded their membership.
STU: Maybe they took the Daily Beast criticism seriously at right-wing death squad. And, you know, we're not as open as we should be.
Look, we should just be accepting right-wingers who want to cause death.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. Amen.
STU: And why do we care about the color of the skin? Bringing people together.
GLENN: So ridiculous.
STU: It is so ridiculous.
And I think too, you mentioned this many times, Glenn. Racism is a human problem. It's not a white problem.
And there's this thing in the media, that they like to do. And act as if other races, other than white people, as if they don't hate other races other than white people.
You know, there's a lot of tension between the Asian and black communities in certain cities, for example. There's a lot of this that goes on.
Hispanics and blacks have their own issues separate from white supremacy.
But because the media has no prism to look at this, other than blaming white-wing extremists and white supremacists every single time. They run into these cross the streams moments, where their coverage makes no sense. You know, look, it's possible for Hispanic people to dislike black people too. It's wrong. Just like it's wrong for white people to do it. You shouldn't make any decision based on the color of someone's skin. That's just stupid.
Unless of course if you're looking for affirmative action, then of course it's completely okay.
Or if it's, you know -- if it's Ibrahim Kennedy. And anti-racism. Then all your decisions can be made on skin color. But other than that, you should make decisions based on skin color, Glenn.
And that's something that we stood by. I stood by that principle the entire time here. I know it's changed. I know the trendy thing, is to do the opposite.
GLENN: Yeah. My whole life is, don't judge people by the color of their skin. But by the content of their character. Which doesn't seem to be real popular. But I still stand by it too, Stu.
Now, let me just throw this question out: Do you believe the government and the media?
When the media comes out and says, we've scrubbed the internet, so you can't see any of it.
And then they come out and say, this Hispanic man just loves to be part of this white power group.
STU: It's hard to trust anything they're saying.
GLENN: Correct.
STU: Especially when they don't give us the evidence.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. And it's strange too that so far, they have a really good batting average on white supremacists.
But they can't find anybody who is bombing a church.
They -- or an abortion clinic.
Because, quote, it happens at night.
STU: Uh-huh. It's dark.
GLENN: Love that. It's very dark. Can't see. Sometimes they wear black.
Now, they can't seem to find that. They can't find the Supreme Court leaker can't find that group.
STU: Oh, it was dark. They leaked it at night.
GLENN: Did they? Okay. So they did it during the day.
STU: Yeah. They did it during the day. But what maybe -- the story came out during the day. Maybe it was leaked.
GLENN: Okay. It's daylight someplace.
STU: It's fear.
GLENN: So we couldn't find that.
We can't seem to get to the bottom of the Hunter Biden thing.
STU: What evidence do we have, other than the entire laptop?
GLENN: And we can't see the -- we can't see the evidence on the Las Vegas shooter. We still don't have a clue. And Nashville.
STU: Yeah. That one is weird.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Can't see that manifesto, even though we have it.
GLENN: Right.
STU: We can speculate about what the Alan, Texas, shooter's manifesto was. Because they're going to go online and find some social media post.
GLENN: But we can't do it.
STU: Not only can we not get the actual information on the Nashville manifesto and see it. They won't even really tell us what's in it.
GLENN: Hey, it's this one. This one.
This one, they know.
This Hispanic is part of a white --
STU: Huge white supremacist. That's the -- that's what you need to know.
GLENN: Okay. I'm just trying to get my arms -- well, let's talk about some real crimes. How about the Marine Daniel Penny, you know?
STU: Hmm. Yeah.
GLENN: Now we have the full videotape. The full videotape. I don't know if you've seen it yet. But it shows him choking the guy out, and then putting him in what is called the recover position. So he didn't just choke him out, like, yeah! He put him in a recovery position.
STU: Or to contrast it with George Floyd, where that didn't end for a very, very long time. This person was obviously trying to bring back the guy he had choked to subdue him. During the attack. He was attempting, outwardly, to make sure, he didn't die.
STU: That's why you have a recovery position.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what it means. Now, there was protests in New York. Lots of lots of protests.
STU: Very dumb protests. We should point out. Incredibly stupid.
GLENN: No justice. No peace.
STU: Saying stupid things. Just this idea -- this idea that it's murder. And, you know, like, they may finds that the New York law does not look favorably on what he did.
I don't know. I'm not an expert on New York law. But I will say.
GLENN: You know why we're not. Because we moved away from there because we were smart. Okay?
Move away from New York.
STU: I was born there. And I do not live there. And for a reason.
GLENN: Yeah. No.
STU: But, you know, they may come up with something and they may get this guy on.
We don't know all the facts of the case yet.
Though, I do think we know for certain, that he and the black guy that was helping him, were not out to murder black people all day. It was not a, hey. Let's go out and execute people for no reason, as it's being portrayed in the media.
And I'm sincerely suspicious of the motivation of the black guy who was actually helping to subdue the guy of his motivation of trying to murder black people that day. It just seems like an odd thing for him to wake up to on his to-do list.
GLENN: That black man is in the same white supremacy group.
STU: Is he in Deathwatch?
GLENN: Yeah. Right-wing -- yeah.
STU: That's why.
GLENN: So it's -- it's -- you know what I'm saying? It's pretty clear.
STU: It's so stupid.
GLENN: That they are opening up, their -- their -- you know, roles for volunteers and members. They're just opening it up. And saying, look, we're not going to let all blacks in. We're not going to let all Hispanics in. Just the ones that hate blacks and Hispanics.
STU: That's so stupid. And it so exposes the left, what they're doing here. Like, this man meant nothing to them a week ago.
When he was out on the subways like the lunatic that he was. Sadly. He had all sorts of mental health problems. He had a very --
GLENN: Long record.
STU: Long record. Over 40 arrests. They kept letting him out anyway. He went through a very traumatic experience early on in his life. Saw his mom murdered. Look, the guy had a terrible life. He was a Michael Jackson impersonator.
GLENN: And it went downhill from there. You know, you don't really ever recover from that.
STU: Yeah. You just think that -- things went downhill from there. If you were a Harvey Weinstein impersonator, I would assume business got bad there for a while, and the same thing happened with him.
GLENN: I don't know.
STU: The bottom line is he should not have been on that subway. He should not have been put in the position where he was threatening people on this train.
GLENN: Yep. Yep. Uh-huh.
STU: And all of left-wing society and media abandoned him until he was useful. Until that moment he was useful, which was, by the way, coincidentally the moment he died.

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WARNING: How America Elects a Socialist President in 2028 | Glenn TV | Ep 444

The rise of Zohran Mamdani, the 33-year-old socialist who just won the Democratic primary for mayor, is not just a political earthquake shaking New York City — it’s a warning for the rest of America. Backed by Bernie Sanders, AOC, and the Democratic Socialists of America, Mamdani promises free everything, to tax the rich, and to dismantle capitalism. There’s nothing new about this tired strategy, but the media is propping him up as a new political genius. And with Democrat leaders lining up behind him, it’s clear: This radicalism isn’t fringe anymore. It’s the Democratic Party’s future. Mamdani’s rise is part of a larger movement that’s rewriting America’s values. Glenn Beck explains how New York is the prototype for the Left’s socialist makeover of America. Victor Davis Hanson, senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Standford, gives a terrifying prediction on Mamdani’s mayoral race chances and warns the revolution is coming for mainstream Democrats. He also dives into MAGA’s frustration with the Trump administration's handling of the Epstein files.

INSIDE Trump’s soul: How a bullet changed his heart forever

“I have a new purpose,” then-candidate Donald Trump told reporter Salena Zito after surviving the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Salena joins Glenn Beck to reveal what Trump told her about God, his purpose in life, and why he really said, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”, as she details in her new book, “Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland”.

Transcript

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GLENN: Salena, congratulations on your book. It is so good.

Just started reading it. Or listening to it, last night.

And I wish you would have -- I wish you would have read it. But, you know, the lady you have reading it is really good.

I just enjoy the way you tell stories.

The writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are. That I think I've ever read, from anybody.

It's really good.

And the description of your experience there at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.

SALENA: Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was thinking about this, as I was ready to come on. You and I have been along for this ride forever. For what?

Since 2006? 2005?

Like 20 years, right?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

SALENA: And I've been chronicling the American people for probably ten more years, before that. And it's really remarkable to me, as watching how this coalition has grown. Right?

And watching how people have the -- have become more aspirational.

And that's -- and that is what the conservative populist coalition is, right?

It is the aspirations of many, but the celebration of the individual.

And chronicling them, yeah. Has been -- has been, a great honor.

GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday, when -- when Elon Musk said he was starting another party.

And somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the Tea Party tried to do?

No. The Tea Party was not going to start a new party.

It was to -- you know, it was to coerce and convince the Republican Party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. It didn't accomplish what we hoped.

But it did accomplish a lot of things.

Donald Trump is a result of the Tea Party.

I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were -- right?

Were with Donald Trump, are the people that were with the Tea Party.

SALENA: That's absolutely right.

So that was the inception.

So American politics has always had movements, that have been just outside of a party. Or within a party.

That galvanize and broaden the coalition. Right? They don't take away. Or walk away, and become another party.

If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost a Republican Party.

Because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the Tea Party didn't go away. It strengthened and broadened the Republican Party. Because these weren't just Republicans that became part of this party.

It was independents. It was Democrats.

And just unhappy with the establishment Republicans. And unhappy with Democrats.

And that -- that movement is what we -- what I see today.

What I see every day. What I saw that day, in butler, when I showed I happen at that rally.

As I do, so many rallies, you know, throughout my career. And that one was riveting and changed everything.

GLENN: You made a great case in the opening chapter. You talk about how things were going for Donald Trump.

And how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump.

Changed the trajectory, changed the mood.

I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train, until this.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Moment. What do I -- what changed? How -- how did that work?

And -- and I contend, that we would have much more profound change, had the media actually done their job and reported this the way it really was. Pragmatism

SALENA: You know, and people will find this in the book. I'm laying on the ground with an agent on top of me.

I'm 4 feet away from the president.

And there's -- there's notices coming up on my phone. Saying, he was hit by broken glass.

And to this take, that remains part of this sibling culture, in American politics.

Because reporters were -- were so anxious to -- to right what they believed happened.

As opposed to what happened.

And it's been a continual frustration of mine, as a reporter, who is on the ground, all the time.

And I'll tell you, what changed in that moment.

And I say a nuance, and I believe nuance is dead in American journalism.

But it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation, that I had with President Trump, the next day. He called me the next morning.

But it's a powerful conversation I had with him, just two weeks ago.

When he made this decision to say, fight, fight, fight.

People have put in their heads, why they think he said it. But he told me why he said that. And he said, Salena, in that moment, I was not Donald Trump the man. I was a former president. I was quite possibly going to be president again.

And I had an obligation to the country, and to the office that I have served in, to project strength. To project resolve.

To project that we will not be defeated.

And it's sort of like a symbolic eagle, that is always -- you know, that symbol that we look at, when we think about our country.

He said, that's why I said that. I didn't want the people behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching, panicking.

I had to show strength. And it's that nuance -- that I think people really picked up on.

And galvanized people.

GLENN: So he told me, when he was laying down on the stage.

And you can hear him. Let me get up. Let me get up.

I've got to get up.

He told me, as I was laying on the stage. I asked him, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Salena, I don't know about you.

But with me. It would be like, how do I get off the stage? My first was survival.

He said, what was going on through his mind was, you're not pathetic. This is pathetic.

You're not afraid. Get up.

Get up.

And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight, of that by the time that he's standing up, he's thinking, I'm a symbol? Or do you think he was thinking, I'm a symbol, this looks pathetic. It makes you look weak.

Stand up. How do you think that actually happened?

SALENA: He thinks, and we just talked about this weeks ago. He -- you know, and this is something that he's really thought about.

Right? You know, he's gone over and over and over. And also, purpose and God. Right? These are things that have lingered with him.

You know, he -- he thought, yes.

He did think, it was pathetic that he was on the ground. But he wasn't thinking about, I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic.

He's thinking, my country is symbolically on the ground. I need to get up, and I need to show that my country is strong.

That our country is resolute.

And I need people to see that.

We can't go on looking like pathetic.

Right?

And I think that then goes to that image of Biden.

GLENN: You have been with so many presidents.

How many presidents do you think that you've personally been with, would have thought that and reacted that way?

SALENA: Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have. Reagan probably would have thought that.

And if you remember how he was out like standing outside.

You know, waving out the window. Right?

After he was shot.

GLENN: At the hospital, right.

SALENA: Had he not been knocked out, unconscious, you know, he probably would have done the same thing.

Because he was someone who deeply believed in American exceptionalism.

And American exceptionalism does not go lay on the ground.

GLENN: And the symbol.

Right. The symbol of the presidency.

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that affects him today.

GLENN: So let me go back to God.

Because you talked to him the next day. And your book Butler.

He calls you up.

I love the fact that your parents would be ashamed of you. On what you said to him.

The language you used. That you just have to read the book.

It's just a great part.

But he calls you the next morning. And wants to know if you're okay.

And you -- you then start talking to him, about God.

And I was -- I was thinking about this, as I was listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't -- I wasn't a Christian.

Even though, he was.

I wasn't a Christian, when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.

I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

Is -- is -- I mean, I believe Donald Trump always believes in God, et cetera, et cetera.

Do you think there was a real profound change at Butler with him?

SALENA: Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day. Seven times, the take after seven.

GLENN: Crazy.

SALENA: Talked about. And I think he was looking for someone that he knew, that was there. And to try to sort it out.

Right? And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him.

At all. I believed that he was having -- you know, he was struggling. And he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose was to listen.

Right? I know other reporters would have handled it differently. And that's okay. That's not the kind of reporter that I am.

And I myself was having my own like, why didn't I die?

Right?

Because it went right over my head.

And -- and so I -- he had the conversation about God.

He's funny. I thought it was the biggest mosquito in the world that hit me.

But he had talked profoundly about purpose. You know, and God.

And how God was in that moment.

It --

GLENN: I love the way you -- in the book, I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own he head.

He was like, you know, I -- I -- I always knew that there was some sort of, you know -- that God was present.

He said, but now that this has happened.

I look back at all of the trials.

All of the tribulations. Literally, the trials.

All of the things that have happened. And he's like, I realized God was there the whole time.

SALENA: Yes. He does. And it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those conversations with him. Because I'm telling you. And y'all know, I can talk. I didn't say much of anything.

I just -- I just listened. I felt that was my purpose, in that moment.

To give him that space, to work it out.

I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God.

I'm Catholic. I followed my faith.

And -- and so, I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right?

And to -- to have that -- to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Salena. Why did I put a chart down?

I'm like, sir. I don't know. I thought you were Ross Perot for a second.

He never has a chart. And he laughed. And then he said, why did I put that chart down?

By that term, I never turned my head away from people at the rally. That's true.

That relationship is very transactional. It's very -- they feed off of each other.

It's a very emotive moment when you attend a rally. Because he has a way of talking at a rally. That you believe that you are seeing.

And he said, and I never turn my head away.

I never turn my head away.

Why did I turn my head away?

I don't remember consciously thinking about turning my head away. And then he says to me, that was God, wasn't it?

Yes, sir. It was. It was God.

And he said, that's -- that's why I have a new purpose.

And so, Glenn. I think it's important, when you look at the breadth of what has happened, since he was sworn in.

You see that purpose, every day.

He doesn't let up.

He continues going.

And it brings back to the beginning of the book.

Where you find out, that there was another president that was shot at in Butler.

And that was George Washington. And how different the country would have been, had he died in that moment.

And now think about how different the country would be, had President Trump died in that moment. There would be --

GLENN: We're talking to -- we're talking to Salena Zito. About her new book called Butler. The assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting.

And, you know, it is so good. I wish the press would read it. Because it really explains who we are, who Trump supporters are. Who are, you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She's the best at that.