RADIOMay 08, 2023

TEXAS SHOOTING: Was the killer REALLY a white supremacist?

Another gun-related tragedy hit America over the weekend, this time outside a mall in Allen, Texas. And, unsurprisingly, the reaction from politicians and media pundits turned political almost immediately. In fact, despite not presenting evidence to the public, some are now reporting the killer was a white supremacist. But can we trust what the government and the media tell us? And if the gun is to blame me for this shooting, then what about the car that took just as many lives in Brownsville? And why is the media already releasing information about the Allen, TX shooter, but we still know very little about the ones in Las Vegas and Nashville? Glenn and Stu discuss all this, plus more…

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So we're looking at quite an interesting weekend just here in Texas. We had a shooter.

STU: Pretty close to here. About half an hour or so. Just a mall outlet everywhere. Now, I've been to every mall outlet area in Texas, I think. So this is not to be notable, but I have been to this place where this occurred before. And it was just like your typical outdoor giant mall. Has over hundred stores in it. It's really an outdoor mall, has over 100 stores. And someone decided to pull up in all black, and just start taking people out.
Thankfully, there was a police officer nearby at an unrelated call, and came over and ended it relatively quickly. But still, a devastating day, and a scary day. There was a mall nearby here, that had basically something else happen. And everybody is freaked out. Because everyone is on edge. So they evacuated another separate mall. Turned out to be nothing. But that's the sort of feeling now, that people have. And look, it's scary. It is. It's really, really difficult to stop though. Really, really difficult to stop.
GLENN: Well, we know he had mental issues. So he probably should have been on medication or, you know, institutionalized.
STU: Yeah.
GLENN: But, of course, it's the gun. It's always the gun.
Well, no. Also, it was the car this weekend. We had eight people killed, nine people injured after somebody takes their car and ran into a migrant shelter in Brownsville, Texas.
STU: Yeah. It's interesting. That one is still being reported both ways.
It may have been an accident. It also may have been a drunk driver, they think.
GLENN: It also may have been gang-related. Gang-related. So we don't know what that one is.
STU: It may have been intentional.
GLENN: So far, we don't think that it is white supremacy. It was either a drunk driver, gang-related, accident.
STU: They're trying to say the shooting was white supremacy, though.
GLENN: Yeah. Except the guy was Hispanic. And I'm trying to wrap my arms around this. In fact, I got this from the Daily Beast. Okay. This from the Daily Beast, in 2021. Okay?
STU: Okay.
GLENN: Blah, blah, blah. The FBI began monitoring a Facebook chat group, in 2019 called right-wing death squad, because of violent rhetoric.
STU: Wait. There's violent rhetoric, in the group of right-wing death squad.
GLENN: Yeah, I know it's hard to believe.
STU: You can't trust anybody these days.
GLENN: One of the quotes. I have access to 300,000 pounds of ammonia. I just need a container to store it in.
GLENN: That might be --
STU: If you don't have -- where is it? If you don't have a container to -- I'm just carrying it around my pocket.
GLENN: I don't know. I don't know.
This is one of the courts we could lift from the court documents. That is not the filled with expletives from African-Americans. With one of the men from Arkansas. With the current state of the world, they have become severe pests.
They must be eradicated completely and utterly.
Racism isn't real, whites are the only humans.
This guy who was in trial, he was a guy who wanted to be Timothy McVeigh. Similar sentiments were expressed in the group with hateful messages about Jewish and Hispanic people. So there seems to be a problem with this particular group. With all people except apparently white people.
STU: You're saying, there's a problem with the group, white wing death squad.
GLENN: Yeah. It's weird, isn't it? It's weird. It's weird. It's weird.
So they want to clean up the white community. And we need a new world tomorrow. And the S-word for Hispanics. And the N-word for blacks, need to hang from trees, end quote.
STU: This wasn't the person you're talking about?
GLENN: No. This is the -- this is the article about this group, when another guy was arrested in 2020. Okay?
So he was arrested. Daily Beast, wanted everybody to know. This white guy was after Hispanics. And blacks and Jews. And anyone of any color whatsoever. Now --
STU: Uh-oh.
GLENN: Now you can be Hispanic and a member of this group. So I don't know if they expanded their membership.
STU: Maybe they took the Daily Beast criticism seriously at right-wing death squad. And, you know, we're not as open as we should be.
Look, we should just be accepting right-wingers who want to cause death.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. Amen.
STU: And why do we care about the color of the skin? Bringing people together.
GLENN: So ridiculous.
STU: It is so ridiculous.
And I think too, you mentioned this many times, Glenn. Racism is a human problem. It's not a white problem.
And there's this thing in the media, that they like to do. And act as if other races, other than white people, as if they don't hate other races other than white people.
You know, there's a lot of tension between the Asian and black communities in certain cities, for example. There's a lot of this that goes on.
Hispanics and blacks have their own issues separate from white supremacy.
But because the media has no prism to look at this, other than blaming white-wing extremists and white supremacists every single time. They run into these cross the streams moments, where their coverage makes no sense. You know, look, it's possible for Hispanic people to dislike black people too. It's wrong. Just like it's wrong for white people to do it. You shouldn't make any decision based on the color of someone's skin. That's just stupid.
Unless of course if you're looking for affirmative action, then of course it's completely okay.
Or if it's, you know -- if it's Ibrahim Kennedy. And anti-racism. Then all your decisions can be made on skin color. But other than that, you should make decisions based on skin color, Glenn.
And that's something that we stood by. I stood by that principle the entire time here. I know it's changed. I know the trendy thing, is to do the opposite.
GLENN: Yeah. My whole life is, don't judge people by the color of their skin. But by the content of their character. Which doesn't seem to be real popular. But I still stand by it too, Stu.
Now, let me just throw this question out: Do you believe the government and the media?
When the media comes out and says, we've scrubbed the internet, so you can't see any of it.
And then they come out and say, this Hispanic man just loves to be part of this white power group.
STU: It's hard to trust anything they're saying.
GLENN: Correct.
STU: Especially when they don't give us the evidence.
GLENN: Yes. Yes. And it's strange too that so far, they have a really good batting average on white supremacists.
But they can't find anybody who is bombing a church.
They -- or an abortion clinic.
Because, quote, it happens at night.
STU: Uh-huh. It's dark.
GLENN: Love that. It's very dark. Can't see. Sometimes they wear black.
Now, they can't seem to find that. They can't find the Supreme Court leaker can't find that group.
STU: Oh, it was dark. They leaked it at night.
GLENN: Did they? Okay. So they did it during the day.
STU: Yeah. They did it during the day. But what maybe -- the story came out during the day. Maybe it was leaked.
GLENN: Okay. It's daylight someplace.
STU: It's fear.
GLENN: So we couldn't find that.
We can't seem to get to the bottom of the Hunter Biden thing.
STU: What evidence do we have, other than the entire laptop?
GLENN: And we can't see the -- we can't see the evidence on the Las Vegas shooter. We still don't have a clue. And Nashville.
STU: Yeah. That one is weird.
GLENN: Yeah.
STU: Can't see that manifesto, even though we have it.
GLENN: Right.
STU: We can speculate about what the Alan, Texas, shooter's manifesto was. Because they're going to go online and find some social media post.
GLENN: But we can't do it.
STU: Not only can we not get the actual information on the Nashville manifesto and see it. They won't even really tell us what's in it.
GLENN: Hey, it's this one. This one.
This one, they know.
This Hispanic is part of a white --
STU: Huge white supremacist. That's the -- that's what you need to know.
GLENN: Okay. I'm just trying to get my arms -- well, let's talk about some real crimes. How about the Marine Daniel Penny, you know?
STU: Hmm. Yeah.
GLENN: Now we have the full videotape. The full videotape. I don't know if you've seen it yet. But it shows him choking the guy out, and then putting him in what is called the recover position. So he didn't just choke him out, like, yeah! He put him in a recovery position.
STU: Or to contrast it with George Floyd, where that didn't end for a very, very long time. This person was obviously trying to bring back the guy he had choked to subdue him. During the attack. He was attempting, outwardly, to make sure, he didn't die.
STU: That's why you have a recovery position.
GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what it means. Now, there was protests in New York. Lots of lots of protests.
STU: Very dumb protests. We should point out. Incredibly stupid.
GLENN: No justice. No peace.
STU: Saying stupid things. Just this idea -- this idea that it's murder. And, you know, like, they may finds that the New York law does not look favorably on what he did.
I don't know. I'm not an expert on New York law. But I will say.
GLENN: You know why we're not. Because we moved away from there because we were smart. Okay?
Move away from New York.
STU: I was born there. And I do not live there. And for a reason.
GLENN: Yeah. No.
STU: But, you know, they may come up with something and they may get this guy on.
We don't know all the facts of the case yet.
Though, I do think we know for certain, that he and the black guy that was helping him, were not out to murder black people all day. It was not a, hey. Let's go out and execute people for no reason, as it's being portrayed in the media.
And I'm sincerely suspicious of the motivation of the black guy who was actually helping to subdue the guy of his motivation of trying to murder black people that day. It just seems like an odd thing for him to wake up to on his to-do list.
GLENN: That black man is in the same white supremacy group.
STU: Is he in Deathwatch?
GLENN: Yeah. Right-wing -- yeah.
STU: That's why.
GLENN: So it's -- it's -- you know what I'm saying? It's pretty clear.
STU: It's so stupid.
GLENN: That they are opening up, their -- their -- you know, roles for volunteers and members. They're just opening it up. And saying, look, we're not going to let all blacks in. We're not going to let all Hispanics in. Just the ones that hate blacks and Hispanics.
STU: That's so stupid. And it so exposes the left, what they're doing here. Like, this man meant nothing to them a week ago.
When he was out on the subways like the lunatic that he was. Sadly. He had all sorts of mental health problems. He had a very --
GLENN: Long record.
STU: Long record. Over 40 arrests. They kept letting him out anyway. He went through a very traumatic experience early on in his life. Saw his mom murdered. Look, the guy had a terrible life. He was a Michael Jackson impersonator.
GLENN: And it went downhill from there. You know, you don't really ever recover from that.
STU: Yeah. You just think that -- things went downhill from there. If you were a Harvey Weinstein impersonator, I would assume business got bad there for a while, and the same thing happened with him.
GLENN: I don't know.
STU: The bottom line is he should not have been on that subway. He should not have been put in the position where he was threatening people on this train.
GLENN: Yep. Yep. Uh-huh.
STU: And all of left-wing society and media abandoned him until he was useful. Until that moment he was useful, which was, by the way, coincidentally the moment he died.

Could passengers have SAVED Iryna Zarutska?

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.