RADIOMarch 11, 2022

The ‘genius’ argument to BANNING ESG that America may need

Glenn’s warned you about the dangers of ESG for months now, and several states in the U.S. currently are trying to pass legislation to ban it. But Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich may have a new argument to end ESG once and for all: it violates anti-law trust laws. Though he’s still investigating the idea, this COULD be the key we need. Brnovich explains to Glenn all the details…

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GLENN: All right. Let me go to Mark Brnovich. He's the Arizona attorney general. He wrote an op-ed, in the Wall Street Journal, a couple days ago. ESG may be an anti-trust violation.

I love this approach. Welcome to the program, Mark.

MARK: Thank you, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. Thanks for all that you do.

GLENN: So tell me how you view ESG, and what it means to the people of Arizona, and the people of the world.

MARK: To the people of the world. People especially in this country. ESG. I'm sure your listeners know, stands for the environmental, social, and governance movement. And basically, these are far left, progressive, woke liberals, that want to control your life and your livelihood. And what they've been doing. They essentially have been organizing or, you know, the Wall Street Journal banks. And money managers. You know, people like climate action. 100-plus. 65 million. Trillion. Trillion with a T in assets. And what they do, they put pressure on companies. Pressures on banks, to be very woke and very progressive. And we've seen this manifest itself most recently. In the energy sector. Because they want to be green. They want to be socialist.

So banks now. And financial institutions are being pressured, not to invest or not to provide any sort of funding for oil, gas, things that essentially made us energy independent. And I think especially, Glenn, in light of the events that we've seen the last couple of weeks. That, even though these climate activists -- the pointy-headed liberals think they know best, literally, we see what's going on in the world, and it proves more than ever. The United States and our security depends on being energy independent, and not woke.

GLENN: And it -- it is -- would you agree, it is going to trickle down to the average individual?

I mean, I won't be able to buy, perhaps the car I want. Because my ESG score will be too low. I can guarantee you, it will be.

MARK: Yeah, this really. It's the woke, neo-Marxist. And we saw part of it going on, with China, with the individual scores. The social basis. This impact, that it will have, on every single person listening. What happens with the ESG movement is being pushed. The far left. It's the fossil fuel haters. And they're using your 401(k). Your investment funds.

You know, if you have any sort of retirement plan. And they're using that, basically to drive that woke agenda. So everything from the price of energy.

Obviously, you know, when we're -- we're not drilling into Anwar. Or we're not doing permits.

The oil companies are -- the gas and coal companies can't get financing. That means high energy costs. And high energy costs, as we all know, ends up that we pay more for our groceries. We pay more for our milk. And we know, and I know, that this isn't going to stop in the energy industry.

We've already seen this with things like the firearms industries. We'll see it with religious liberties.

So, ultimately, this is the far left, that neo-Marxist goal of, I want to, but the Marxists are going to control the financial institutions and the woke money managers. And they will use that, as Lenin said, the proverbial, using our own rope to hang us with.

GLENN: Okay. So why do you say this is an anti-trust violation?

MARK: Well, I think -- you know, once again, I've been a tried and trued principled conservative my entire life here in Arizona. And I think that very often, the left comes up, and is consistent at pushing their agenda. And our folks, us on the right, need to think sometimes outside the box.

So we know this is wrong. What they're doing. We know the folks that identified this problem issue. And so now, the issue, Glenn, is what do we do about it?

So I have certain tools in my toolbox. The attorney general. And I said, well, wait a minute. Anti-trust law said that, you can't have agreements between competitors, artificially between competition. Are there third party agreements that were strained?

That result in collusion, that harmed consumers.

GLENN: Yeah.

MARK: And so we've begun an investigation. I'm not saying, for sure it's going. But I do think that if your 401(k), or your pension plans, your retirement savings are being used to facilitate a political agenda by big banks and big money managers, that very well could be a form of collusion, that's harming consumers.

GLENN: Well, I just think this is genius, quite honestly.

And I can't imagine, you can't find it. My book is full of footnotes, on all of the things that you're doing. And you can -- I mean, the agreements that the banks have signed, have said, we're getting out of this kind of business.

We're no longer going to make loans, to these kinds of businesses. Our standards on social justice are this. And it is happening. It is -- it's like the mob, just a very buttoned up mob. When, you know, they -- they just -- they call each other, and they say, boy, you're really putting yourself at reputational risk. Which means, you're going to be put out of business, if you don't get on this side.

MARK: Glenn, you hit the nail on the head, as always. And you're absolutely right. The key to this. From a legal perspective. We know that, well, he's -- under third party agreements, either formal or informal, that are restraining competition. And are essentially inviting people to clued to advance their far left agenda. And you know that incremental life -- the left is very organized. And there's a cult on our right. And I know you talked about this. What's going on. Critical Race Theory. 1619 Project. How they're trying to get young people to aid our country. I know I've sued the universities over everything from giving tuition, to people who don't have legal status, to what they're doing with their sweetheart real estate deals.

So we -- meaning, people like you, people like me, need to help make sure our kids understand what's going on is crony capitalism. And you're getting the neo-Marxist, socialist companies, that are feeding the alligator, and hoping that they eat them last.

And we all know -- you know. Your listeners know. That every revolution will eventually eat itself because the -- the left. These banks, these money managers, are playing footsy with the far left.

They will never be far left enough for them. There's always going to be something else they need to do. And eventually, they will destroy this one. And they're already on that. That's what I'm fighting on.

GLENN: So when will you have an answer? And what does this path? Your research does come back, and say, yeah. I think I can prove that.

What does that mean?

MARK: Well, hopefully we actually started the process. And a lot of it, quite frankly, is confidential by statute. And no person worth their salt is ever going to say, what are they going to do, before they get all the facts and evidence?

GLENN: Correct.

MARK: I assure you, we take this seriously. And we've already started to get some materials, and we're reviewing it. That will probably lead to more subpoenas, more discussions. I am sure, they will probably object to some stuff. And they will probably end up in court somewhere, fighting over what we can get and not get. You know, we're hoping.

But unfortunately, the left has some lawyers and lobbyists. And they try to make it miserable for us. And they have the media on their side and everything else.

So they'll play for time sometimes. So we'll do everything we can, to move quickly on this. And get the information. And a lot of it is legally and ethically, we can't --

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. I understand that.

So, Mark, I appreciate it. When I saw your op-ed in the Wall Street Journal, I thought, this is a great angle to attack from. We have to hit them from all fronts, quite honestly. And I think this one has a really good chance of making a huge difference.

But I will tell you, do not dismiss the pushback from the right.

There are a lot of these RINO Republicans. And honestly, a lot of capitalists, who think, I can't tell the free market, what to do. These are companies. And they choose to do it.

This isn't the free market. This is not the free market. By design, this is to usher in a stakeholder from shareholder capitalism, to stakeholder capitalism. So be -- be very wary of the Republicans, as well. They have been holding things up in some states as well.

MARK: Absolutely. And I understand that. And that's why I made that reference to crony capitalism. And unfortunately, I think that a lot of times, people see what's going on. The sweetheart real estate insider deals. What's going on in public universities.

And so what -- we don't, unfortunately, have that free market. You do have certain leaps. And like I said, we're seeing it with the money managers, the bankers, that actually have a lot of influence. And kind of pick and choose. Who gets to run for what office.

And all this other stuff. Look, Glenn. I'm a public school kid. I'm a first generation American. My family fled communism. You know, I'm playing with house money. Living in the greatest country in the world. So I don't back down from the fight. And it's slow and steady wins the race. And I will keep fighting.

GLENN: Well, thank you, very much, Mark. I appreciate. Mark Brnovich. He's the attorney general from Arizona. Please, keep us up to speed. We'll follow that story for you. By the way, one more story kind of along these lines. Facebook's parent company, meta,has announced a new tool that will automatically delete posts containing misinformation, before they're published. Now, I would like to know, what that misinformation is.

Is it like a week ago, there are no weapons of mass destruction? No bio labs? Et cetera, et cetera. To this week. Yeah. Kind of looks like we are involved. Is it that kind of misinformation, that changes all the time? Incoming posts, according to Facebook. Incoming posts containing content related -- rated by a third party fact-checker, uh-huh, as false are declined before they're even seen in the group.

The suspension ability is an upgrade from Facebook's mute button, which can permanently prevent users from commenting on a page. Now pages can temporarily suspend users for a set period of time. Communities can only thrive, as places to connect, when they are safe.

These new tools will help administrators prevent the spread of misinformation. And manage interactions, in their group.

The other updates, include the ability to suspend page members and automatically decline member requests from users via the admin assist page.

So they're working for you, and I'm sure this is going to work, you know, for conservatives.

Well, they love us so much. They might even work better for us, than it does for those who support all the leftist causes.

STU: That's the way it always works for us. Any time, there's this type of stuff going on. It always affects us, in such a positive way. I can't think of any way to stop it.

GLENN: Yeah. All right. Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile.

Ever take a minute just to stop and go through the list of companies that you do business with, every day, in your head?

Last night, I showed a chart of all the companies that are involved. Bite, this portion of the program, brought to you by Coca-Cola. Reminding you, if you're white, you're a racist.

But all of the companies, that we do business with, governor too -- do they align?

I will tell you, almost none of them. By the way, I hate the Walt Disney company. And I have the biggest -- yes. I am the biggest.

STU: What?

GLENN: You know me. I own a lot of Walt's stuff. I love Walt Disney. I hate the Walt Disney company.

Hate them. Hate them.

STU: Now, you have gone to Disney approximately 115,000 times.

GLENN: Hate them. Never.

STU: Why?

GLENN: Hate them.

Did you see what the CEO did yesterday?

He was getting -- I'm getting a word in my ear. Please, do the commercial. Talk about this in a second.

STU: Well, this relates pretty closely to Patriot Mobile and the stuff that they do.

GLENN: It does. Patriot Mobile is not a woke company. They are a company that is wide awake. By the way, did you know that that was -- another story I have to tell you -- did you know that that was a big deal, leading up to Abraham Lincoln, the Wide Awake? The Wide Awakers, or Wide Awake Club? Anyway, it's weird that it's coming back, around now.

Don't be woke. Be wide awake.

Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

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GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
(laughter)

GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.

GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.

Did the Swamp RUIN the Big Beautiful Bill?

The Senate just sent the “Big Beautiful Bill” back to the House. But Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck with a warning: This isn’t the same bill President Trump proposed! The Swamp has made sure to cut back on its reforms. But are Trump’s tax cuts too important to fail?

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GLENN: Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

Chip is a congressman, and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip?

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I'm -- you know, I'm continuing to work through, and trying to deliver the American people. But it's getting hard.

I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now.

GLENN: Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

You are just living -- who doesn't want your job?

My gosh, what's -- what -- a glorious. Glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

CHIP: Yeah, there's -- there's been -- no, no, no.

GLENN: So tell me.

Tell me, is this thing gotten better or worse?

CHIP: Unfortunately, Glenn. I believe it's gotten worse.

Now, we've not seen the final product of the Senate. We don't have the tax. We've got to review it.

I try to be level-headed during these things. I had enormously strong and good friends in the administration, who in good faith, want to see this pass. Just as you do. Just as I do, just as the American people do.

They want to see a move forward in legislation to make tax cuts permanent. To deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Steven Miller is a long-time friend. I've known him 25 years.

Russ Voit is a long-time friend. I've known him for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver.

The problem is, the swamp is going to swamp.

And right now, we have a bill, that in my estimation, violates the house framework.

But more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views.

GLENN: More. More than it did. More than it did, right?

CHIP: Quite a bit, in my view.

And look, there is going to be a debate about this. About tax cuts. And revenues. And all the stuff.

And I get it. Baseline. CBO. All these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing. Factor in revenues. And expenditures.

And what we're doing, on mandatory spending.

Which is not enough.

The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid. To go to illegals. Because of some arcane center rules.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries.

The fact that we're going to -- in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years.

Which means, you will have more interest.

Which means, it's going to stack up, all to get savings, in five years.

That's not what you and I signed up for.

Now, I'm looking at this, trying to say, okay.

The president wants tax cuts. So does I.

The president wants borders, so do I.

I think the president wants us to repeal the entire Green New scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful.

Like handle Medicaid appropriately, and all of that, for our American citizens that depend on it.

But we haven't delivered. Because the Senate has a bunch of people in it, who don't want to deliver, and they are hiding behind the parliamentarian, and they're delivering the product that I didn't come to Washington, to sign up for, Glenn.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

Is that -- I mean, they -- they say, there was a change in the bill, because of the Medicare paid to the illegals. And the parliamentarian said you have to keep it in there. Some arcane rule or whatever.

Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

Is it fair -- what?

CHIP: They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a change, if they wanted to do so.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Now, some of these things take 60 votes. If they want to address this, they can address it.

But the real issue here is that behind the closed doors, what you know, is that there are senators, who don't want to make the reforms.

Don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices. Based on what they want.

Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now. Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve-out for additional spending, for people in Alaska.

You've got, you know, Tillis. You've got others. They want us to go the wrong direction, when it comes to Medicaid reform.

And, Glenn. I've got to be honest. How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade, talking about shutdowns by discretionary spending. Like every two years.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

CHIP: Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights. The people of this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.

It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting all our time.

I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations in America.

But I said, okay. Guys, here we are.

We are going to do this reconciliation package. We will reform Medicaid, right? We ended up fighting like cats and dogs to get the reforms, the work requirements we got out of the House. It was good. Not great.

The Senate, now they're working through it. And they are fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thank to Rick Scott.

He's been fighting hard. Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We've got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes. But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

We're getting watered down, somewhat on illegals. How about missed taxes, Glenn?

We passed a measure in the House, to tax money going from America, so people going here illegally back to their own country.

The Senate -- it's crazy!

GLENN: Why? Why? Why?

CHIP: Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing, there are bankers. Banks. Who came here and said, guys, this would be really hard on us.

If we had to enforce this policy.

Money flowing from our banks and institutions.

Mexico.

And Columbia.

And places. We really need a carve out, so the banks won't be taxed by this, and then they will go.

It would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're working hard, and they want to spend money on their families. But you and I both have a heart for what people face. And want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here, who is following the law, who came here illegally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that, but we're taxing. Instead of saying, no, we're not going to do it.

But the biggest thing at the end of the day. Deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

GLENN: So you're not going to vote for them?

You're not voting for this.

CHIP: I can't. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement.

And, Glenn, this is important.

The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill up. I get that. And I want to deliver. For six months, I've been busting my butt.

I voted for a bill that came out of the house, that I didn't like. It wasn't good enough. But I thought it was an important step.

I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jerry Harrington and others, to figure out, how to get this done and get it out of the House.

I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that are good. We did get some tightening down on the green new scam, and others didn't want to do it.

But we are now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.

And importantly, the way they tax to spend policies. Overall, I can't look at this any way objectively, without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them. That the deficits will go up.

Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we will pay higher economic growth. Well, two things.

Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

We assumed 2.6 percent growth.

Now, you might say, well, gosh, we need three or four. Yeah, but we have to do a ten-year budget. 2.6 percent growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

We picked a sweet spot of 2.6 percent growth. It is true, that if we have 4 percent growth for a decade, we will have much more of it.

I hope that's true. You hope that's true.

And if it is true, then great. It's gravy, that will give us money to buy down the debt. And save money. And get the deficits down further.

But I can't budget to two and a half percent. Sitting at 2 percent growth

It would be irresponsible.

GLENN: So I'm with you, Chip. I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time -- the Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose, and they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would.

Donald Trump seems to be.

You know, at least he is trying.

He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

And so, you know, I don't know what -- what the midterm is going to look like.

But I will tell you this. He has to have that tax cut passed.

He's got to have it.

If we don't get that tax cut. Everything the Republicans have been trying to do. Or the Republican voters have wanted.

It's over. It's over.

Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?

CHIP: So I agree we must deliver on the tax cut. And I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way we will get to December, and not provide an extension of tax cuts, that were so important in 2017.

Now, I'll remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already.

Right?

What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues. Marginal rate. But also child tax credit. Also standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure.

I've got different views, on different ones of those policies.

Overall, we want to ensure, this stays in the pockets of the American people.

We have to deliver on that.

I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax.

If we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing the American bond markets.

Because we are so irresponsible.

Then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

They can't afford a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

GLENN: They can't afford it now, Chip.

They can't afford it now.

CHIP: So I think what we need to do, is I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I want to go home tomorrow, or the next day.
Let's just get busy. We've been working on it.

Let's tighten down some of the spending.
Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done. Get it set. Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

It was a good, solid bill.

And get the Senate to adopt it, and pass it.

Or make some modest changes. But we have to get rid of some of these ridiculous things. Like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like pork that's going to Alaska.

Like specific giveaways.

And, you know, get rid of those things.

Go back to the House bill.

Make sure the inflation act is getting terminated.

Deliver on the tax cuts. Deliver on the border.

Deliver for the president.

I'm prepared to do that. But I will not swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know how it's unpopular to say, no. We're not giving illegals any Medicare.

We're not.

Do you remember -- who was it, when we were in Congress. Barack Obama talked about Obamacare. He said, you lie!

Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing. Look at what we're doing.

Look at what we're giving illegals.

The answer is no.

No, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand, the green new deal, no! No!

USAID. No!

DOGE. Cut it. Why can't they see what -- I mean -- there is -- I mean to tell you, Chip. I don't mean to take this out on you. You're one of the good guys. You're trying to do this.

We're in between a rock and a hard place.

The president has to have what the president needs. To get the economy going.

We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms.

You have -- the president is not turning this economy around, fast enough.

Because he can't get anyone in Congress to do Jack crap on anything!

You need to cut the freaking spending. And the waste. And the garbage.

And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100 percent.

100 percent.

You are one of these weasel Republicans, who don't -- who just go along, and just be like, you know what, we're going to have another five or $6 trillion to our debt.

I'm done. I'm done.

And Elon has said, I will -- if it's the last thing I do. I will make sure that none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good.

That's not going to be good. For the republic.

Let alone, the Republican parties.

But, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough.

And I think the American people have too.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I will tell you this, July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day. Two hundred forty-nine years ago, and we already celebrated. We celebrate their courage. We celebrate Lexington and Concord.

We celebrate all the things -- we celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men in women in uniform have done to fight in this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'll have to vote for this bill, because there will be some political pressure.

When I regale the boys at the Alamo, sitting there, taking bullets. Knowing they were going to die.

But ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy.

Look, we have to deliver.

We have no choice. We all agree on that.

I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, a -- any number of things.

That I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it.

And I won't get defensive about it. The president wants this bill. And he is right to want this bill.

The Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending them. And I'm prepared to stay here, until we do.

But I won't vote for a bill, because I'm told I have to. Because a bunch of losers who are swamp creatures, who want pork and giveaways. Who don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people. And to actually reduce spending, and not hide behind parliamentaries. Not hide behind tax cuts.

They want to hide behind a tax cut, to tell me at the border, to tell me, you have to vote for this bill. Don't worry about this spending.

No, kiss my ass.

I will stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it!

STU: It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. Or I'm sorry. Not -- Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand -- stand firm in what you believe in.

And just keep the fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

Give the president what he needs. Fight for the president, what he's asking for.

But you got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it.

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