RADIOApril 21, 2022

THIS is why 'Libs of TikTok' creator was DOXXED by the left

The creator of Libs of TikTok — a social media account that aggregates far-left videos posted on TikTok — recently was doxxed by Washington Post report Taylor Lorenz (who, ironically, recently sobbed on MSNBC about her own harrowing experiences with haters). There’s a reason incidences like these keep happening, Glenn explains, even to private citizens who have done NOTHING wrong: It’s the only way our ‘authoritarian state’ can clamp down on all those who SUCCESSFULLY oppose it: ‘This is intimidation, period.’

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GLENN: If you don't use TikTok, good for you. I mean that sincerely. All hail you.

TikTok is a -- is a -- is a Chinese tool, I think just to just dumb us down. But I digress.

There is -- there is not the censorship on TikTok, that there is elsewhere.

And somebody has really done a great job at exposing the craziness, that is the fringe of the liberal party. I can't say that.

You know, what was fringe, we're now living. So I don't know what fringe is in the -- on the left anymore. I have no idea what fringe is.

But the creator has now come under attack. And I want to play just a little bit of something she said yesterday, as she is being doxxed and exposed, and her address is given out, online. Here's what she said.

VOICE: How has this affected your life, this Jeff Bezos piece?

VOICE: Well, the past few days have been very chaotic and overwhelming. I had to make some travel plans, you know, really fast. But I was not planning on earlier, so there was a little bit of coordination that had to happen. And I'm now, in a location, where I don't think anyone would find me. I'm not in any of the locations that there were leaks, or that anyone can find.

But I -- it's been a little bit tough. But I'm not going to let this set me down.

GLENN: So her friends and people who know her, say, she's not going to stop. This is not going to -- it will frighten her. It will scare her. Because they're coming after her. And these people will be violent. You know, they always say, the right is so violent. Show it to us. Show it to us.

The left, I could show you boatloads of evidence, that you're violent. So all she's doing on this, TikTok, it's the Libs of TikTok. All she does is take things that are on TikTok. She doesn't edit them out of context or anything else. She just takes the post, and she reposts it in one place. And now conservatives go to Libs of TikTok. And they see what she's saying. Let me give you two of the videos she posted. This is video number one.

VOICE: This video is to teach students about gender and sexuality. First up, we have sex assigned at birth. This is what the doctor says you are, when you come out of the womb. Should be based on chromosomes, hormones, and genitals. Next up, we have gender identity, which is totally different from sex assigned at birth. This is what you feel you are inside, and no one can see this from the outside. There are three different sliders that you can move up and down to describe your gender identity. Then you have gender expression, which is how you show your gender to the world. It's usually based on a sort of binary system, which isn't perfect. Again, you can slide this up and down to show the different gendered ways you express yourself. Then we jump down to attraction. We have physical attraction and emotional attraction. These are different. And there are sliders that a person can use to best describe their sexuality.

GLENN: All right. So this is done with a big cartoon unicorn and everything. This is for our kids. That's a teacher explaining, showing the curriculum, what's happening. Instead of teaching addition, we are teaching attraction.

Bet the Chinese aren't doing that.

Now, this is a first grade classroom. This is a -- from a teacher in a charter school, in Boston.

Again, from the Libs of TikTok. Listen to this.

VOICE: And something cool about me, Ms. Ammon. All right. So something that is really cool and unique about who I am, is that I am transgender. So we touched a little bit about that in the beginning of this week, in the book that Ms. Hammond read. But I'm going to give you my explanation of what it means to be transgender as well. So when babies are born, the doctor looks at them, and they make a guess about whether a baby is a boy or a girl, based on what they look like. And most of the time, that guess is 100 percent correct. There are no issues whatsoever. And -- but sometimes, the doctor is wrong. The doctor makes an incorrect guess. When the doctor makes a correct guess. That's what a person is called cisgender. When a doctor's guess is wrong, that's when they're transgender. So I'm a man. But when I was a baby, the doctors told my parents, I was a girl. So my parents gave me a name, that girls typically have. They bought me clothes that girls typically wear. And until I was 18 years old, everyone thought I was a girl. And this was super, super uncomfortable for me. Because I knew that wasn't right.

GLENN: Hmm. I didn't know the doctors guess. Did you know that?

STU: No. I could have thought they had some information based on science, that they were making -- that they were recording. But, no. I guess it's just a spin of the wheel.

GLENN: I guess we don't follow the science.

STU: No. No. It's just a guess.

GLENN: So the reason why I bring this up. This is all this woman does. She's not taking people out of context. She's just playing that on her channel, Libs of TikTok.

STU: And those are the more serious examples. A lot of them are funny. Just laughing at the oddities in our world. We all have them. Some have more than others.

GLENN: But nobody is on candid camera. They posted these to TikTok.

STU: Right. That's really important. As far as I know, and correct me if I'm wrong, Glenn, she's not going into someone who has their account set as private and lifting their account.

GLENN: No. She's just going through and being a human algorithm.

STU: Yeah. These are the things I find interesting. Look at what liberals are saying to each other.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: In this world. And they admit quite a bit, when they're bragging to their friends about how much typically they are owning conservatives.

GLENN: Correct.

STU: They are doing this to brag.

GLENN: So here's the thing: The -- Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. The Washington Post through Taylor Lorenz, has doxxed the woman, that has the Libs of TikTok. Doxxed her. She's a regular person. She's only -- all she's doing is being a human aggregator. That's it.

But apparently, Taylor Lorenz, who I think is psychotic. She has had a psychotic break. Because she has been crying on NBC, complaining about threats and online bullying that she claims has targeted her. And she said, it is so destructive, and has destroyed my life. And made me feel unsafe. If there's just one piece of information that comes out about me, well, she then goes to the Washington Post, and exposes the woman behind Libs of TikTok's address and everything. Now, they're saying they didn't do that. But, yes, they did. They posted a real estate license, with the woman's address on it. Oh, I didn't see the address. Bullcrap, you didn't see the address. And the only reason why this is happening, is because Libs of TikTok is successful. People actually watch it. And laugh. And that cannot be tolerated, in an authoritarian state. You do not make fun of authoritarians. You don't.

That's the only reason why this is happening. This is intimidation, period.

STU: They want to just extract consequence. They wanted pain. They wanted a price. If you were going to make our movement look bad, then you're going to pay personally, in -- in fear, in harm to your career. In intimidation. In whatever form it is.

You will have to pay a price, for being successful, against liberals. Against progressives. Against the far left. Against The Great Reset. You will -- they have to extract a price for it. There's no other reason to do this. BS, they didn't know the address was there. In fact, they're not even saying that. They're not saying, we miss the address. They're saying, we didn't do it at all. They're just memory holing the entire experience. When everyone saw the link to the real estate license, with the address on the page. They're just acting as if it didn't occur.

That's their plan, right now, the Washington Post. And it's completely -- it's embarrassing. This is -- this is not 1997, where Taylor Lorenz was crying about a piece of information, out about her, who is a public figure. A reporter. And everyone knows her name. Now she's actually trying to justify outing someone, who isn't a public figure, who doesn't have their name public. What does that do to her life? She knows exactly what it does. She was just crying and sobbing about it, on MSNBC a couple weeks ago. And to have this disconnect shows real struggles dealing with reality.

GLENN: Oh, a psychotic break. A true psychotic break. She is -- I don't know -- she is a danger possibly to her own self. She is to others. She has now demonstrated that she is not living in reality. And she is a danger to others.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: That's a reason that, you know, they keep you at the hospital.

She said, she was dealing with massive PTSD.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: She said she was mentally just exhausted. This was two weeks ago. And she understands the consequences of all this.

Then she goes to work with Jeff Bezos. And she does exactly what she said, caused her breakdown.

That's somebody who needs help. I mean, that -- I don't want to get into the world of diagnosing people. And committing people, to insane asylums. But she is a danger to others. And she is not making any sense.

She is doing what she just said, should never be done.

STU: And it's a much worse version, than what happened to her.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: The fact that she's taking someone whose identity is not known and making it known is a really big line, and taking somebody who is not a public figure and making them into a public figure, is a big difference.

Taylor Lorenz, of course, she's dealt with criticism online. She's an online reporter for all of the major papers in our country basically. She's at the top two: New York Times and Washington Post. Right?

She's been -- she's been at the center of this debate for a while. And, of course, yes, she has received criticism, much of it fair. Some of it unfair. I'm sure some of it was terrible. I'm sure we've received terrible, abusive things said to us, all the time. It's part of being a public figure in the United States. It's not a good thing. No one should do that to her. However, what she's talking about here, she said, this is what reporters do. Of course, people who are antagonistic towards her. And are a little bit aggressive are going to go to all of her friends and all of her family, and do these things. Show up at their door. And we've seen some of it already. She's already complaining about some of it happening already. Well, you're the one normalizing this behavior.

This is insanity. It should not happen. And, you know, she tweeted yesterday: She said, rather than debate doxxing, I hope people can read the story and see the striking escalation of attacks against gay and trans people, and the crucial role this account has played in the right-wing media ecosystem.

Well, look, I read the story. That would have been the debate, if you didn't name the person and give out their address. Right? That would have been the debate. People would have been saying, well, is this account highlighting people who are going through difficult times, and maybe shouldn't -- shouldn't be highlighted? I don't know. You could have that conversation.

GLENN: And you know what is so crazy, is I'm not debating that that guy felt, you know, he was a girl, and felt like he's now a he. Or whatever. I wasn't even debating that. What I'm debating on that TikTok video, the last one we played. Is you're saying that doctors are guessing?

STU: Are guessing.

GLENN: That's the thing, and you're saying it to first graders. That's the controversial part for me. I'm so past the, oh. He's a dude. He was a girl. Huh.

I mean, I don't really care. When I'm on TikTok, I don't really care, what you say you are.

STU: And such a strange thing, where they separate this. When it comes to gender and sex.

You know, this has been their defense, right? When you say, wait a minute. We know what sex is. Everyone knows. Well, this is a different thing. It's the feeling you have inside. Look, maybe it's the feeling you have inside. But your feelings about what you have inside, are completely unimportant to me.

I don't care what your feelings are. Your feelings make no difference to society. You can have all the feelings. You can be -- you can cry at hallmark movies or not. I don't care what your feelings are. Your feelings might be important to you. They might be important to your family. They might even be important to the first grader's family who you are teaching. But they are unimportant to society in general. You can feel like a boy or girl, however you want. Whenever you want. But what you are, is important to society. What you feel like you are, isn't. That's important to you and your personal life. You do that all you want. But what is actually important to society and to doctors, who need to know whether you might be pregnant or not, is what you are! That's the important thing.

The Book of Enoch: Did Extraterrestrial Beings DESCEND in the Days of Noah?!

The Book of Enoch tells a story the Bible only hints at: A story of heavenly beings who descended to Earth, took human wives, created hybrid giants, and unleashed forbidden knowledge that corrupted the world before the Flood. Glenn Beck and researcher Timothy Alberino break down how the ancient Hebrew worldview explains the Watchers, the Nephilim, the origins of demigod myths, and why Peter and Jude referenced Enoch directly in the New Testament. From extraterrestrial terms in Scripture to the cosmic “family of God” and the divine rebellion that reshaped human history, this discussion reveals a forgotten narrative that once defined early Jewish and Christian theology. What really happened in the days of Noah, and why does it matter now?

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Cracker Barrel CEO speaks out about DISASTROUS logo in exclusive upcoming interview

Glenn Beck recently spoke with Cracker Barrel CEO Julie Masino about the company’s infamous attempt to change its logo, and he asked the question everyone has been wondering: Why wasn’t she fired?! Glenn previews his interview, which debuts Thursday, Nov. 20 at 6PM ET!

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GLENN: I was in Tennessee this weekend, and Saturday morning, I go to -- I think store number two for Cracker Barrel. And I met with the senior vice president and the CEO of Cracker Barrel. And we sat down, and we had an interview. And Julie, who has not done an interview since Good Morning America, kind of said, okay. No more interviews, because that didn't go well.

This was her first interview since then.

And, you know, it was weird. Because I got off. I got off the plane.

And, oh. Somebody on the plane said, "What are you doing here?"

And I said, "I'm going to go interview the CEO of -- of Cracker Barrel."

And the immediate response was, "Get her!"

I was like, "Wow. Okay. All right. Thank you."

I get into the car, and the Uber driver says to me, "What are you doing here?" And I said, "I'm going to meet with the person at Cracker Barrel."

"Boy, she really screwed her up. You hold her feet to the fire."

I mean, I've never -- I've never seen anything like that. And, you know, I started the interview with her, you know, honestly. And I said, look, I -- I -- I'm not here to get you. I'm not here to do anything, but ask questions that I think everybody in America wants to know.

Like, what the hell were you thinking?

And I asked her some -- asked her all of the really pointed questions. Rikki, the TV executive producer said, "There's no way. I know you. You're going to soften. There's no way."

And when I got up afterwards, she was like, "Wow. Okay. You didn't -- you really -- you really didn't soften. You know, you asked all of those questions."

Because I thought they were fair. And I told her, "Look, I hate conflict. I'm not here for conflict. I'm not here. I don't need to make a name for myself by giving you a hard time. I don't care about any of that. I just want to do my job and ask you, 'What happened here?'"

And I said, "So I'm going to ask you really uncomfortable questions." And she was prepared. And I think I finally broke through, and got the real answer in the end. I think I got the real answer.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And it came from one of the questions I asked was, I mean, are you surprised, you haven't been fired yet?

And her response was, all telling. All telling. It's a fascinating interview you should watch. It's going to happen, I think Thursday on the podcast.

STU: Because I'm mildly surprised that hasn't happened. You know, like just because -- not because -- I don't know. There's a lot of things she's been accused of and everything else.

But just like, when you have a situation like this, where you're trying a major change and you roll it out a specific way and it does not go well, you know, it's usually -- it's like, when you're general manager of a football team, you go through the process. You evaluate all the quarterbacks. You pick the guy.

And that guy is a total bust, like you usually don't survive it. It doesn't necessarily mean you went through the process incorrectly. But when you miss, usually something happens like that. Does she feel like she missed like that?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, she does.

She's a very bright woman. I mean, she ran Coach, you know, the purse place or whatever.
STU: The purse company.
GLENN: The Coach brand. Godiva Chocolates. Taco Bell, the whole -- global. (I mean, she's a Fortune 500 CEO. She's very, very competent. Very competent.

So how could somebody very, very competent make this mistake?

STU: Hmm. Did she walk you through that? How that happened?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. She see.

And what's interesting is, they brought the senior vice president was also sitting there.

And he has been brought in since.

I mean, he had been there for 30, 35 years.

And really good guy. And he was one of the voices that was like, while that was happening, like, you guys. Hey, everybody upstairs. You shouldn't be doing this.

It's a bad idea. And so after they were like, "Hey. You know who was saying this? Let's bring him upstairs." And it was interesting to talk to him, because he's been long before she got there. So he kind of gave the view of, here's what happened before she got here! And here's where she came in.

And here's what happened.

And it's -- it's really fascinating.

I mean, if you want to hear the real story behind it.

And -- and also see somebody -- I mean, just wait until you hear her answer on -- I mean, it was so powerful and so honest. When I said, are you surprised you haven't been fired yet?

It was a fascinating answer.

STU: How many pancakes did you --

GLENN: Podcast on Thursday, I didn't eat any.

STU: You went to Cracker Barrel headquarters, and you ate zero pancakes?

GLENN: I didn't. I didn't. It was very difficult to not order the pancakes.

STU: You're the type of guy who gets pancakes by mistake. What do you mean you've got none?

GLENN: I was looking at my wife. My wife was sitting off to the side of the camera. And I'm looking at her. I'm like, she's so beautiful. And I eat pancakes, too many times.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And she's just -- she has to live with this, the pancake-wearing shoes. I'm not going to order the pancakes. The pancakes.

THIS Epstein quote could PROVE Trump’s real ties to the scandal

Democrats are trying yet again to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein’s scandals. This time, they’ve highlighted that Epstein once referred to Trump as “the dog that hasn’t barked.” Is this proof that Trump is in the Epstein Files…or is it actually evidence that he was a whistleblower against Epstein? Glenn and Stu discuss…

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GLENN: Now, Jeffrey Epstein is back in the news today. Could we just for the love of Pete release everything that we have, so we can move on! From the Jeffrey Epstein thing.

Here's the answer: No.

Even if we release everything that we still have, this is going to go on for the rest of our lives.

It will always -- and probably, into our children's lives.

Do you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were the reason we never went to the moon.

It's going to happen!

It's just one of these conspiracy theories, that will never, ever go away.

Why?

Because no one was honest about it in the first place. Once you start to lie, you lie once -- once! If you're a very honest person, you will lie once. And then people are like, what? What?

Why would he lie about that? What is going on?

He's not like that. But if you're the United States governor government. You already have no credibility whatsoever!

Stop lying to the American people.

Just stop it. You know, I said something a minute ago. One of the reasons why you're hearing lies is because it works to the advantage of a Colour Revolution.

You know, there are reasons why people are lying to you. Some of it, they're just dirtbags and they're liars. Some of it, they're politicians, and so they're liars.

Some of it, however, a good deal of it is, we lie, because we know it causes damage to the credibility of this entire system.

We know it does damage to the culture of America, and we are here trying to destroy the culture of America because we want to try something new. And the only -- you won't vote for it. So the only way we can get America to change and do something entirely different, that they will never vote for, is just to cause chaos and disbelief in everything!

So as I said a minute ago, you know, it's not the news. Many times, it's a reflection of a plan! And when it comes to the Epstein thing, this is absolutely a plan. The way this thing has been played out. Democrats are completely against bringing anything out against Epstein.

They don't want to do anything about it. The media. Do you remember the ABC anchor that went into a commercial break. And she was like, you know what, I've got to tell you, Epstein. You know, we had the goods on him. Dead to rights.

Clinton. All of it.

And we were told, pull it.

Remember that.

Remember that, gang?

They pulled it at ABC. I think they fired the person who tried to -- who released that video.

Or tried to fire that person. I think they were working either at CBS or whatever. That person was in trouble for releasing that behind the scenes tape.

They had no intention of it. Now, everybody wants the Epstein tapes. Wait a minute. You didn't want them when Biden went in. And you could have said something, Democrats. And you could have released it all.

And, you know, it's funny. It is just so full of stuff about Donald Trump. Then why wouldn't they release just that?

Why wouldn't have the Democrats released anything in the Epstein file?

You're telling me, we've got to find something on them. Hey. I've got the Epstein files. Yeah, yeah. We've got to find something on it.

I have got some information here about Epstein. Him and Epstein, they were fooling around. Yeah, shut up for a second. Is there anything at all, that we can construe and manufacture about his banks?

I know!

He's got a vet signal between his bank and the Russian bank. I've got stuff about the Epstein.

Come on! If they had stuff about the Epstein, they would have gone to the stuff about the Epstein files.

They don't have anything, they don't have anything.

Now, let me speak directly to conservatives. They're not going to release anything about the Democrats, because they had the Epstein files.

Do you think that -- let's just say, I'm not even going to name names. Let's just say the most powerful people on the earth. The most powerful people with powerful connections, to government.

They knew their names were, you know, there on little, you know, guest books at the island, or whatever.

You don't think they called in some favors and said, "Hey, I need that -- can you remove that?"

You don't think that there were people that were like, "Hey. You know what, we'll remove that."

"We need $100 million from you, to help out on this campaign."

I mean, whatever it is, those names are gone too! They're gone! How do I know this?

Because the government is completely dishonest! That's how I know that.

But, anyway, now, Donald Trump.

STU: You don't think anything of interest would be in these files?

I mean, I think we've already seen some stuff of interest in the emails, no?

GLENN: Yeah, I think there are stuff of interest. I don't think there's going to be anyone at a very high level that is going to get -- that's going to be like, holy cow. Look, here's pictures with him with a 14-year-old girl!

That's not going to happen.

STU: Right. Somewhere that stuff, at least at the upper levels, not there.

Now, here's what is interesting: The timing of the release of a few documents last week. The Democrats released some documents.

And they released them, and at the same time, that Johnson were saying, by the way, we are going to expedite the releasing of everything.

So there's no reason to leak anything. But the Democrats decide to leak some stuff. They like a memo. And in that, oh, my gosh.

Look at what was said. What was said in that memo. Well, it was said, you know, the only dog that hasn't barked is Trump!

Well, what -- what did he mean by that?

He's keeping it quiet. All of these things. All of these innuendos and everything. Well, now we know, from the guy who wrote the book, all the president's meeting. Donald Trump and the making of a predator, that guy came out this weekend and said, no, no. That's not what he meant.

What did he mean?

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GLENN: So Barry Levine comes on. And he's on MSNBC this wreaked.

And he's asked, so tell me, I mean, we've seen this email between you and Epstein. What did he mean that the to go that hasn't barked is Trump. What do you think he's referring to?

Okay. What was he referring to?

I think Epstein is referring to the fact that he believed that Donald Trump talked to Michael rider who was the Palm Beach police chief in 2004. And began the first investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

So, in other words, he was the whistle-blower!

Yeah. But he's got all kinds of stuff in his -- in Jeffrey Epstein's books.

He's the whistle-blower!

The one thing you don't do is blow the whistle, when you know you got fingerprints all over the dead body. And the handgun that killed him!

You know what, I think you could find that hand gun, in this alleyway. Your fingerprints are on it. Man, why would you blow the whistle?

The suspect, he said, I suspected that Jeffrey Epstein was saying, he was 75 percent there.

Believing that Trump might have been the whistle-blower at the time. He believed it's 75 percent.

Now, how do you release something.

I mean, if you think things will be released. That will get Donald Trump. Why would you release that?

Where after two days of it being out, the guy who was part of that email, who hates Donald Trump, is like, yeah.

That's not what it means. It means he was whistle blower. Jeez.

STU: That is interesting. And I will say, you know, it is -- amazing that that's what they released. And chose to release.

That's the same email, by the way, that you're mentioning. That they blacked out the name of Virginia Giuffre, which they did intentionally. Because she has said that he was nothing, but respectful. And was never with any of the girls at all.

In not only her book, but also in testimony, under oath.

And the other one, that they released, which said, Trump -- he says, of course, he knew about the girls, was the other big one that they released. Which they left the -- well, they didn't leave it out. They just hoped you didn't focus on the next part of the sentence, which he says, that of course, he knew about the girls, as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Which would indicate, even if he was aware of this, which I don't think this had anything to do with the sex stuff. I think this was about him taking them.

GLENN: No. It was about poaching his girls from Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Right.

GLENN: The employees. He knows that we're poaching these girls. It doesn't mean he knows what they're doing with them. Stop taking my employees!

Okay. Now, if you suspect he's the whistle-blower and he knew you were taking employees from him, you know, in retrospect, you know, looking at it later, you go, oh, man, he's the whistle-blower?

But he also knows about the girls.

He knows we were taking them.

Does he know what we were doing with the girls?

I mean, this does not hurt Donald Trump. It helps Donald Trump.

STU: What about the one they released from Jeffrey Epstein. Where he said, I've met some very bad people, and none are as bad as Trump.

I mean, what if they come up with bad comments from Jeffrey Dahmer about Donald Trump? What will you say then? I mean, this is so dumb.

GLENN: I've eaten some bad eggs in my life, but I would not eat Donald Trump. I'll tell you that right now.

'House of David' Star REVEALS Story Behind TV’s #1 Biblical Series

Amazon’s House of David has become the #1 show on Prime Video, and today Glenn Beck talks with Michael Iskander, the actor bringing King David to life in one of the most powerful biblical series ever produced. Michael shares how fasting, prayer, and years of preparation shaped his performance, why David’s flaws and redemption resonate so deeply with viewers, and what really happened behind the scenes with Goliath, the sheep, and the shepherd who taught him lessons he’ll never forget.

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GLENN: I've got somebody on, who is in just an amazing, amazing show from Amazon. House of David. If you haven't seen House of David yet, you have to. Do you remember when-like biblical movies. I mean, they were good in the '50s. And then they got really, really bad.

And then all through the '70s and '80s and 2000s. They were horrible.

And then all of a sudden, they got really, really good?

This someone amazing. This is as good as the Jesus. What is the Jesus one?

Chosen.

It's called House of David. It's on Amazon, and we have the guy who portrays David. Michael Iskander on with us.

Michael, how are you?

MICHAEL: I'm good. What an introduction. Thank you for that!

GLENN: I mean, it's really.

Come on. Was there any time, that you thought, oh, man. This might -- I hope they do it right!

And then you saw the finished product, and you were like, wow! This is good?

MICHAEL: Yeah. That was -- you know, I try to keep my head down, and, you know, it's -- it's not finished until it's finished.

And season two is coming out. You know, I'm just going to be hearing the response of how this show is really affecting people.

GLENN: So can I talk to you about Goliath?

Because Goliath is portrayed really as a giant. Not just a big guy. He's a giant.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Talk to me about that.

MICHAEL: Well, I'll tell you what, when I first met Martin.

He was -- I went to -- I went to the gym with him one time.

And I -- I knew, I'm going to get, you know, my stuff. So I was prepared for that.

And -- and he made me workout for two and a half hours. And I thought that the workout was done. And he was like, no. There's another half. And, man, he -- Martin is a really dedicated man. And he just -- he pushed me to the edge, when it came to working out.

And, you know, when it comes to his role with Goliath. He's someone that really just put all the effort, both physically and emotionally to really portray that part, as best as he can.

GLENN: How long did it take you to learn the slingshot?

MICHAEL: Three days. It wasn't too bad.

GLENN: Well, I heard you had problem with the sheep.

That the sheep were -- they were not helpful.

MICHAEL: The sheep -- well, the sheep were actually really interesting.

I remember when we first started filming, they -- they put me in sheep training classes.

Because when I get on tape. They have to make sure, that I'm not -- you know, I'm not going to get attacked by one of the sheep. And I'm comfortable around them.

The sheep. First day I show up to this training, and she painted me. And you would think that the guy who plays David, you know, would think of his sheep.

GLENN: No. I don't. I don't. I don't think that's natural. You're an actor. I don't know if that's -- yep, well, they picked me because I'm good with sheep.

MICHAEL: I should get classes from you.

GLENN: I don't know.

MICHAEL: But, no. I mean, it really -- spent a lot of time with the Shepherd.
And he was giving me some really amazing lessons.
He saw that I was having trouble.

And he said, you know, you should stick next to me. Because this sheep, when they see you with the shepherd, they'll know that you're with me.
So they'll never leave my side.

GLENN: It's amazing.

MICHAEL: I want you to spend a lot of time with me. And I he said, oh, okay. And he said, I want you to know another thing: A bad shepherd is a shepherd who is behind the flock. And so you, you're going to be a good shepherd. You're going to show them. You're not going to let them lead you.

You're going to lead them, and you're going to be in the front taking risks and showing them the path.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MICHAEL: And he is saying this, I think -- I think I'm getting more than just a sheep lesson here. It really helped in terms of understanding who David was as a person. And then his relationship to Christ.

And why -- why David was chosen as king.

GLENN: Is it true that you fasted, before the audition? I mean, you're a Broadway guy.

MICHAEL: Yeah. Yeah. I sent in the first audition. I was really excited about it.

And it was a dream of mine for a long time. You know, one of these dreams, that you don't tell anyone. And you don't think it will ever happen.

GLENN: To play David specifically? Or to be --

MICHAEL: Yeah, to play David. To play David.

GLENN: Really?

MICHAEL: And because I was inspired by the Chosen.

And I wanted to maybe do flashback scenes with a young David, or something.

When I got the audition, and they originally said no. I thought, oh, that would have been a good opportunity.

GLENN: Hmm.

MICHAEL: And I got another audition. I called my mom. And I said, Mom, this doesn't happen often. Can you believe it? She said, Michael, calm down.

The one thing I need you to do. I need you to fast, and I need you to pray.

I said, yes, ma'am.

A week later, I was having lunch with Jon Erwin. And he -- it kind of took off from there.

But, yeah, fasting and prayer.

GLENN: You know, I'm friends with.
I went to school with Jim Caviezel. And I can't remember what grade he was in. Maybe fifth grade, I think. But he went into church, and all by himself.

And he prayed, and he made a pact with God. Let me -- all I want, Lord, is to play you in a movie some day, and I will live my life honorably to be able to be ready, but I want to play you.

And so he told me when Mel called, he was like, yeah, I've been waiting for the call. It's an amazing thing.

MICHAEL: Wow. I didn't know that story. That's beautiful.

GLENN: Yeah. What do you think it is about the story about -- this was the number one show -- number one series on -- on Amazon -- on Amazon Prime this year.

What is it about the series that you think is connecting?

MICHAEL: You know, I -- I think it's different for everybody.

But I'll tell you for me.

The reason why this show means a lot to me, is because, David points us to Christ.

And -- and David is -- is a person.

He to me, is the embodiment to what it means to be human.

And to make mistakes. And find forgiveness.

It's a complex, long story.

But he was a man that -- that -- he's known as the man after God's own heart.

So for people to see that example. To see, to see the man that God loved so much, that Jesus himself was -- son of David.

I think that's what -- they see the Holy Spirit in the show. I mean, that's what I see.
And that's who I do it for.

GLENN: It's -- it's -- it's amazing to me, how -- with the exception of one, the Bible -- every single hero is so deeply flawed.

And David is so good, so good, and then, you know, becomes really, really does one of the worst things I think I've ever read in the Bible. I mean, just really bad.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Are you going to play -- do you have any idea, assuming the ratings are there, how long of the story you're going to tell?

MICHAEL: I really don't know. I mean, we're just trying to get to season two right now in the release.

Hopefully, pray for us, that we can get to season three, and we can keep telling the story.

I don't know what Erwin and Gunn have. What they're picking up. But I pray that we tell as much of the story as possible. I think it's important to see both the good and the bad. Like you said, to see this flawed human being, to see someone make mistakes, and to see them get back up and repent.

And ask for forgiveness. And find grace in God. So we'll see!

Pray for us.

GLENN: You -- I read some place that you were a Broadway guy. And I thought, this career is not over yet.

I mean, are you prepared to always be David?

I mean, the guy who is playing Jesus now. Jim Caviezel said, it took years before he was allowed to play anything else.

And I can't remember the guy who was playing Jesus his whole life. He is Jesus to a lot of people. Are you prepared to this be you for the rest of your life now?

And not, you know, going -- going back and doing other things, if that's the way it is?

MICHAEL: You know what, God has taken me through so much in my life, that I'm sure he's going to get me through this.

And if I'm known as the guy who plays David, I think it's actually a blessing. And I don't know what God has in store, but I trust him.

GLENN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: When that time comes, I will worry about it then. But nor for now, I'm having a great time portraying one of my favorite people.

GLENN: I just have to ask you a personal question. One for me. My daughter wants to be on Broadway. Can you talk her out of it in 30 seconds, please?

MICHAEL: Oh, man, I don't know if I want to talk her out of it.

GLENN: Okay. Well, time for you to go now.
(laughter)
Michael, thank you so much, and we're looking forward -- when does it premiere? Is it this weekend? Is it out?

MICHAEL: Well, episode eight is out on Warner Project on Prime this Sunday. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Good.

Well, we'll be watching. Thank you so much, Michael. I appreciate it.
MICHAEL: Thank you so much, Glenn. Have a good one. Take care.
GLENN: You bet. If you haven't seen the first season, you really should see it.

It's really, really good. It's one of those that I started watching, you know.

And I stopped because I was like, wait.

Tania, we should watch this together. And she came home. And so we started watching it, and I think we watched the whole season in one weekend.

It's one of those. It's really good. Season two premieres this Sunday.