RADIOMarch 28, 2022

Trump details his ‘VERY STRONG’ case to SUE Hillary Clinton

President Trump is doing what the federal government will not: SUING Hillary Clinton for alleged crimes committed against not only the Trump campaign — but the Trump White House as well. He joins Glenn to detail the ‘very strong’ case, the judge who has a pro-Clinton past, and how he thinks everything will play out…

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GLENN: Number 45, and probably number 47, president of the United States, Donald Trump. Hello, Mr. Trump. Or President Trump. How are you?

TRUMP: Hello, Glenn. How are you?

GLENN: I'm good.

TRUMP: Good.

GLENN: Thank you for coming on and talking about this. You are -- some of the claims in this suit, a Rico conspiracy, injurious falsehood, conspiracy to commit injurious falsehood, malicious prosecution, Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, theft of trade secrets. The list goes on and on and on. This is really not -- is this about the 2016 election, or is this really about what they did to you, this whole time?

TRUMP: Well, I think it's about everything. It covers a lot of territory. It was totally corrupt what they did. If this were done -- and you know this perhaps better than anybody else in the universe -- if this were done the opposite way -- as you know, they spied on my campaign.

GLENN: Yeah.

TRUMP: When I made that statement, everyone thought, oh, my God, what a horrible thing to say. I said, Obama spied on my campaign. And the Democrats. And all hell broke loose, if you remember. In fact, I put it out. And I never seen -- I don't think I saw a reaction. Which usually makes it guilty. Normally, if they didn't do it, they wouldn't have that kind of -- but they spied on my campaign. If this ever happened the opposite way, if I spied on Obama's campaign or on Hillary Clinton's campaign, it would have been treason. It would have been everything, right up and to the death penalty. And that might have been included too. But it would have been over. It would have been the biggest thing ever. But it didn't work that way. So we caught them. We caught them cold. And we've just been building it up. And building it up. And watching. And, frankly, we wish Bill Barr had the courage to do it. Or do it also. But we have decided to do it. Bill Barr was so afraid of being impeached, he didn't want to do anything. At the end, he was petrified of being impeached. So he didn't want to do a damn thing. But how do you not get impeached? Let's not do anything. And all of a sudden, that talk started dying down. But we've been building this up for a long time. The Durham Report, you know, the early -- hopefully just the early moments of the Durham Report came out. And that added to it. And a lot of things are happening. A lot of things. But they all knew it. Look, Obama knew about it too. It wasn't -- it wasn't just crooked Hillary. So we expect that names will be added to it, as it goes along. This is very important. But can you imagine if it were the opposite way, and I spied on let's say, Obama's campaign. And not only that. Much of the stuff, when you think about it, took place beyond the campaign. It was when we were beyond the Oval Office.

GLENN: I know.

TRUMP: They spied when we were in the Oval Office, so it wasn't just the campaign, which in itself was really bad, but it took place when we were in the Oval Office. Unbelievable.

GLENN: So the problem here is, nobody ever pays for anything. There are no consequences anymore in government, if you're on the right side.

TRUMP: Yeah. That's right.

GLENN: And people are sick to death of it.

TRUMP: Right.

GLENN: But this is going now to -- I think his name is Donald Middlebrooks. And he was appointed by Bill Clinton.

TRUMP: Which is a conflict of interest, in my opinion. That's right. We have a judge that was appointed by Bill Clinton. And who knows Hillary Clinton very well. And we're seeing Hillary Clinton. And Clinton, they were suing the tells me. And when we a judge. This is the way it works for Republicans.

GLENN: Right.

TRUMP: So I think it's a total conflict of interest. And that's unfortunate.

GLENN: Yeah. This is the guy who threw out the lawsuit filed -- against Hillary over her using private email accounts and servers while she served as Secretary of State.

TRUMP: And nobody could believe that he threw that out. Nobody could believe it.

GLENN: So what are the -- what are the odds? What is the plan? How do you think you're going to -- I can't believe I'm asking this question. Because justice should be justice. But how are you going to maneuver around a judge like this?

TRUMP: Right.

Well, I think -- and I talked to the lawyers, they called up and they said, we have good news and bad news. Everyone thinks this case is incredible.

And I don't think I've received more positive remarks. They're so tired of nobody doing anything.

GLENN: I know.

TRUMP: And we have them. And we've caught them. And then Barr didn't act because Barr was lazy and scared. And he was just -- he was scared. Contempt. They were holding it -- they wanted to hold him in contempt. You remember those days? He didn't want any part of contempt. Which means going to jail. And he didn't want any part of impeachment. They were going to impeach him numerous times. So he didn't do his job. And frankly -- and it's very sad that he didn't. Because this case is incredible. Now we have a judge that was appointed by the Clintons. And who threw out stuff like it was -- like it was wastepaper. And it's very unfair.

GLENN: So, Mr. President, you have government officials like Ohr, Comey, McCabe.

TRUMP: Right.

GLENN: Seemingly actively engaging in this. We're waiting for the Durham Report. But you have Bruce Ohr funneling the Steele dossier to the DOJ and the FBI. They knew that it was false. They need a harsher punishment than just a lawsuit. But do you have any confidence that the Justice Department now is anything other than a political organ?

TRUMP: Well, it would be wonderful. We'll have to see. And, you know, we had -- this was accumulating for a long time. It's -- you know, one of those things. We're going to have to see. We're hitting them hard. More and more information is coming out. Even since we filed it. All of a sudden people are calling -- people are so happy that a case is being filed against these people. Where they -- the two lovers. They go out. And then they sue the government. Because they haven't been treated well. Yet they were using servers and everything else. The whole thing was crazy. I said, I have to do it. You know, I would rather not have to do it. I would rather have the government handle it. This could be handled by government. But it could be handled by us very strongly, and this is a very strong case. People that read this case said, wow. This is a strong case.

In this case, we'll build. Now, the problem we have though, is if you have a judge that's going to throw out the case, and you have to go through appeals. Yep, I think you have a great appeals section. But we'll see. So we'll probably ask for a recusal. Maybe a change of venue. But not a change as much as a recusal.

GLENN: I think it's amazing. One of the defendants in this case, is a former State Department official and spokesperson for Clinton, Philippe Reines. And he said -- he tweeted yesterday. I think this is hysterical. He looks forward to deposing President Trump. I don't -- I'm not too concerned. They're laughing at this. And I have to tell you, just as a spectator here, you are probably the most investigated man on planet earth.

TRUMP: Yep. Yeah.

GLENN: Every single intelligence agency, at least in five eyes, and I'll bet you, it's all around the world. Every newspaper, every reporter, every journalist had dug through everything, and you're pretty clean. So what do they think they're going to get from you, in a deposition?

TRUMP: Yes. Beyond pretty clean. I have a friend, a very successful guy who said, you're the cleanest man in history.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

TRUMP: And how about this, where Paul Weiss, a big law firm, that's a total Democrat/Hillary Clinton firm -- sends one of their partners. Robert Schumer heads it, or one of the big partners. Robert Schumer -- that's Chuck Schumer's brother. Sends one of their big partners into the Manhattan DA's office. Take two of our people to three of our people, your top, you know, smart, young guys. And go into the Manhattan DA's office. Never happened before. Because they have hundreds of lawyers, do a good job. They took their partner, top guy, an anti-Trump. A Trump hater, like you wouldn't believe. All of them made massive contributions. One of the biggest donors to Hillary Clinton. Put him in the DA's office, to prosecute Trump. Let's get Trump. Now we can get him. And Vance -- Cy Vance, whose father sold the Panama Canal, as you know, for 1 dollar. One -- in the worst -- perhaps the single worst business transaction ever made by our country. And Cy Vance, instead of using one of his hundreds and hundreds of lawyers -- of course, he used 20 percent -- I heard close to 20 percent of the da's office, hundreds of -- 20 percent was -- the murders, the drug dealers, the crime, the street crime in New York, which is at a record level.

GLENN: I know.

TRUMP: They were all focused on getting Trump. But how would you like it? And in all fairness, the new gentleman who came in, Alvin Bragg, who is a -- you know, considered liberal. He looked at this thing. And, I mean, I'm reading the papers. But what he said was such an honorable thing. He couldn't believe it. I heard he was very disturbed by the fact that they sent a team of Hillary Clinton Trump haters in to prosecute Trump.

GLENN: Yeah.

TRUMP: From a firm that's 100 percent. You know, that's totally against. It's one of the main Democrat firms. I think the main Democrat firm. And I think they have tremendous legal liability. But he sent this sleazebag in, to get -- think of this. They sent this guy in, to get Donald Trump. So he acted as a prosecutor.

GLENN: Right.

TRUMP: He's a never Trumper, who contributed to -- so it continues. But Alvin Bragg saw that -- and he also saw. By the way, the banks were hurt. Trump's statement was very powerful -- I have a great statement. My statement is so strong. And all the other things. And think of that. They sent a Trump hater into the -- act as the DA, to bring down Donald Trump. And they still couldn't find anything. I got to live with this. Glenn, and I have to live this life.

GLENN: I know. I know.

TRUMP: And I certainly was a great job as president. Right now, you wouldn't be in Ukraine. 100 percent, Russia would not be there. 100 percent. And I spoke to Putin about it. I know that Putin's attitude toward Ukraine, better than anybody but his closest girlfriend. Okay? I know his attitude. I know all about him and Ukraine. I said, don't ever do it. Don't ever do it. And I told him why. And I'm not going to tell you right now, but I'll tell you at the right time. But he would have never, ever made the move. So we have a rigged election. And because of a rigged election, we have potentially millions of people dying. Because this thing could spiral into a nuclear war. I think it's the most dangerous time in the history of this world, because of nuclear. Because we've never had power like this. And right now, we have a president that is grossly incompetent, that's being laughed at over there. That has no relationship. He just sits there. Everybody is talking, screaming. And, you know, the other leaders, they're all at the top of their game. And he's just watching them talk. This whole thing is horrible. This should have never happened. Ukraine should have never happened.

GLENN: I find myself in the weirdest position at night, praying hard for the health of this president. Because I think Kamala Harris would be even worse than this president.

TRUMP: Yeah. When she laughed at the immigrants, and they called them immigration. It's immigration. And you see people coming in on stretchers with their arms cut off, with their face smashed. And horrible, horrible. And she's laughing about it.

GLENN: Yeah.

TRUMP: I said, that's just not -- that's not the right person. It's terrible.

GLENN: Kim Jong-un also tested a new ballistic missile.

TRUMP: Yeah. He's having fun.

GLENN: What are -- are we looking at a split world? They're now talking about, you know, the dollar going away. And getting a new digital currency.

TRUMP: Yeah.

GLENN: This is insanity. And I don't think people understand what this administration has done with these sanctions, that will crush the dollar. I don't think people understand how that will affect their lives.

TRUMP: That's true. That's true. Well, I know sanctions better than anybody. Because I sanctioned the hell out of Iran, and they were ready to make a deal, until the elections. We would have had a deal within one week after the election. They were ready to make a deal. And I had the sanctions. But people don't understand, when you do sanctions, it hurts us as much, and sometimes more than the country you're sanctioning. And what it does, is it forces these big companies, like Russia or others. That doesn't mean that you don't do them. But you have to be very careful. Because it forces them to use other instruments, not the dollar. They go different ways. They sell their oil for gold. Or they sell -- and then all of a sudden, you say, wow. Half the world is off the dollar. It used to be the currency, when I left. It was very powerful. As an example. We use very strong sanctions on Iran. The strongest ever used up until that point. But that deal would have been solved. And we would have been right back on the dollar. And they would have been fine. And everybody would have been happy. That was all set to happen.

GLENN: Do you think -- Mr. President, that if this continues to spiral out of control, with Joe Biden threatening China, which is just a joke. But do you think -- I don't see anything standing in their way, if we're busy over in Europe, with this president. Of China just taking Taiwan.

TRUMP: Well, except the only thing is that Putin has done very poorly, and he is looking at that. And he's saying, I bet Putin wished he didn't do that one. I guess that one is not working out too well. Let's see what happens. The problem is -- the danger is, does Putin say, all right. Now we're going to escalate into the next level of military. And you know what that is. And if that happens --

GLENN: Do you think he would?

TRUMP: Well, he doesn't want to lose, I can tell you that. It will be very interesting to see. Because he doesn't want to -- look, I know him very well. This would have never happened, would have never happened. Now people say, now what would you do now? And there are things that you can do now. But we had all the cards before he did it. All the cards. And I thought he was negotiating when he moved the troops. I didn't -- I really thought it was a great negotiating -- seriously with troops. And he wanted to get certain things. And they should have been able to do something. But -- but he wouldn't have done it, whether he got it or not. He would have never done it with me there. Never.

GLENN: But he's a guy that you cannot have him lose face. How do you give him a win here? How would you solve this, if you had to walk in right now, he's -- he's not going to -- he's not going to walk away a loser? How do you give him a win? How do you end this?

TRUMP: Well, you see, I don't think the win anymore is the NATO thing. You know, they're not going to go into NATO. Because you could have had that before. They should have had that before. In all fairness, it was never put on the table.

GLENN: Right.

TRUMP: There was nobody saying, let's do this. And certainly, it should have been. Because I guess they didn't believe, you know, they didn't really think he was really serious about building it. Very few people did. Maybe nobody did, except him did. And, you know, I think he made a tremendous mistake, and on a humanitarian basis, it's as bad as anyone has ever seen. It will take 100 years to rebuild that country. And they're knocking down buildings and things that are magnificent. Old. You know, we have in this country, we have 200-year buildings, and we think they're great. They have buildings that are thousands of years old. You know, it's like, they have things that are very old and very beautiful. And they're gone. And they're wiped out. A lot -- most importantly, the people. But artwork and so much is -- is just -- that country is devastated. It's going to take 100 years to rebuild that country.

GLENN: Mr. President, thank you so much. Are you -- are you looking forward? Do you see more things coming from the Durham report that will help your case?

TRUMP: Well, I think so. It looks like he set a foundation. And if you look at what he's got. These are Hillary Clinton people. And he's got a very strong foundation. And you look at that. And now you look at the times. When they did -- I thought that was another terrible story. Really terrible. They knew all about Hunter Biden. They said they misread it. They knew all about Hunter Biden's criminality, made a 17-point difference. But we won it anyway. We got 75 million votes. We got more votes than any sitting president has ever gotten. I was told if I got what I got the last time, we got 12 million more votes. I was told if we got what we got the last time, we would -- so, you know, I think a lot of things are going to be happening over the coming -- you are very lucky to be doing what you're doing, because your show is going to get very interesting.
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GLENN: So is the world unfortunately.

TRUMP: Unfortunately. Yeah, because much of it is sadly, I have to say.

GLENN: Yes. Yeah. Mr. President, thank you so much for talking to us. I really appreciate it. This is something that every American -- I don't care who you voted for, how you feel about any of the people that are involved here, every American should care what happened. And the power that has been gathered by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. And how corrupt we have become. This -- we won't have fair elections. And won't have freedom, until somebody pays a price for what has happened. Thank you very much, Mr. President. Appreciate it.

TRUMP: Thank you, Glenn. And we have a very corrupt media. Remember that.

GLENN: I know. Yeah. Next time, I will ask, where the media is, in the lawsuit. Thank you so much. God bless.

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Salena Zito reveals WHY Trump said “Fight! Fight! Fight!”

“I have a new purpose,” then-candidate Donald Trump told reporter Salena Zito after surviving the assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Salena joins Glenn Beck to reveal what Trump told her about God, his purpose in life, and why he really said, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”, as she details in her new book, “Butler: The Untold Story of the Near Assassination of Donald Trump and the Fight for America's Heartland”.

Transcript

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GLENN: Salena, congratulations on your book. It is so good.

Just started reading it. Or listening to it, last night.

And I wish you would have -- I wish you would have read it. But, you know, the lady you have reading it is really good.

I just enjoy the way you tell stories.

The writing of this is the best explanation on who Trump supporters are. That I think I've ever read, from anybody.

It's really good.

And the description of your experience there at the edge of the stage with Donald Trump is pretty remarkable as well. Welcome to the program.

SALENA: Thank you, Glenn. Thank you so much for having me.

You know, I was thinking about this, as I was ready to come on. You and I have been along for this ride forever. For what?

Since 2006? 2005?

Like 20 years, right?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

SALENA: And I've been chronicling the American people for probably ten more years, before that. And it's really remarkable to me, as watching how this coalition has grown. Right?

And watching how people have the -- have become more aspirational.

And that's -- and that is what the conservative populist coalition is, right?

It is the aspirations of many, but the celebration of the individual.

And chronicling them, yeah. Has been -- has been, a great honor.

GLENN: You know, I was thinking about this yesterday, when -- when Elon Musk said he was starting another party.

And somebody asked me, well, isn't he doing what the Tea Party tried to do?

No. The Tea Party was not going to start a new party.

It was to -- you know, it was to coerce and convince the Republican Party to do the right thing. And it worked in many ways. It didn't accomplish what we hoped.

But it did accomplish a lot of things.

Donald Trump is a result of the Tea Party.

I truly believe that. And a lot of the people that were -- right?

Were with Donald Trump, are the people that were with the Tea Party.

SALENA: That's absolutely right.

So that was the inception.

So American politics has always had movements, that have been just outside of a party. Or within a party.

That galvanize and broaden the coalition. Right? They don't take away. Or walk away, and become another party.

If anything, if there is a third party out there, it's almost a Republican Party.

Because it has changed in so many viable and meaningful ways. And the Tea Party didn't go away. It strengthened and broadened the Republican Party. Because these weren't just Republicans that became part of this party.

It was independents. It was Democrats.

And just unhappy with the establishment Republicans. And unhappy with Democrats.

And that -- that movement is what we -- what I see today.

What I see every day. What I saw that day, in butler, when I showed I happen at that rally.

As I do, so many rallies, you know, throughout my career. And that one was riveting and changed everything.

GLENN: You made a great case in the opening chapter. You talk about how things were going for Donald Trump.

And how this moment really did change everything for Donald Trump.

Changed the trajectory, changed the mood.

I mean, Elon Musk was not on the Trump train, until this.

SALENA: Yeah.

GLENN: Moment. What do I -- what changed? How -- how did that work?

And -- and I contend, that we would have much more profound change, had the media actually done their job and reported this the way it really was. Pragmatism

SALENA: You know, and people will find this in the book. I'm laying on the ground with an agent on top of me.

I'm 4 feet away from the president.

And there's -- there's notices coming up on my phone. Saying, he was hit by broken glass.

And to this take, that remains part of this sibling culture, in American politics.

Because reporters were -- were so anxious to -- to right what they believed happened.

As opposed to what happened.

And it's been a continual frustration of mine, as a reporter, who is on the ground, all the time.

And I'll tell you, what changed in that moment.

And I say a nuance, and I believe nuance is dead in American journalism.

But it was a nuance and it was a powerful conversation, that I had with President Trump, the next day. He called me the next morning.

But it's a powerful conversation I had with him, just two weeks ago.

When he made this decision to say, fight, fight, fight.

People have put in their heads, why they think he said it. But he told me why he said that. And he said, Salena, in that moment, I was not Donald Trump the man. I was a former president. I was quite possibly going to be president again.

And I had an obligation to the country, and to the office that I have served in, to project strength. To project resolve.

To project that we will not be defeated.

And it's sort of like a symbolic eagle, that is always -- you know, that symbol that we look at, when we think about our country.

He said, that's why I said that. I didn't want the people behind me panicking. I didn't want the people watching, panicking.

I had to show strength. And it's that nuance -- that I think people really picked up on.

And galvanized people.

GLENN: So he told me, when he was laying down on the stage.

And you can hear him. Let me get up. Let me get up.

I've got to get up.

He told me, as I was laying on the stage. I asked him, what were you thinking? What was going through your head? Now, Salena, I don't know about you.

But with me. It would be like, how do I get off the stage? My first was survival.

He said, what was going on through his mind was, you're not pathetic. This is pathetic.

You're not afraid. Get up.

Get up.

And so is that what informed his fight, fight, fight, of that by the time that he's standing up, he's thinking, I'm a symbol? Or do you think he was thinking, I'm a symbol, this looks pathetic. It makes you look weak.

Stand up. How do you think that actually happened?

SALENA: He thinks, and we just talked about this weeks ago. He -- you know, and this is something that he's really thought about.

Right? You know, he's gone over and over and over. And also, purpose and God. Right? These are things that have lingered with him.

You know, he -- he thought, yes.

He did think, it was pathetic that he was on the ground. But he wasn't thinking about, I'm Donald Trump. It's pathetic.

He's thinking, my country is symbolically on the ground. I need to get up, and I need to show that my country is strong.

That our country is resolute.

And I need people to see that.

We can't go on looking like pathetic.

Right?

And I think that then goes to that image of Biden.

GLENN: You have been with so many presidents.

How many presidents do you think that you've personally been with, would have thought that and reacted that way?

SALENA: Probably only Reagan. Reagan would have. Reagan probably would have thought that.

And if you remember how he was out like standing outside.

You know, waving out the window. Right?

After he was shot.

GLENN: At the hospital, right.

SALENA: Had he not been knocked out, unconscious, you know, he probably would have done the same thing.

Because he was someone who deeply believed in American exceptionalism.

And American exceptionalism does not go lay on the ground.

GLENN: And the symbol.

Right. The symbol of the presidency.

SALENA: Yeah. Absolutely. And I think that affects him today.

GLENN: So let me go back to God.

Because you talked to him the next day. And your book Butler.

He calls you up.

I love the fact that your parents would be ashamed of you. On what you said to him.

The language you used. That you just have to read the book.

It's just a great part.

But he calls you the next morning. And wants to know if you're okay.

And you -- you then start talking to him, about God.

And I was -- I was thinking about this, as I was listening to it. You know, Lincoln said, I wasn't -- I wasn't a Christian.

Even though, he was.

I wasn't a Christian, when I was elected. I wasn't a Christian when my son died.

I became a Christian at Gettysburg.

Is -- is -- I mean, I believe Donald Trump always believes in God, et cetera, et cetera.

Do you think there was a real profound change at Butler with him?

SALENA: Absolutely. You know, he called me seven times that day. Seven times, the take after seven.

GLENN: Crazy.

SALENA: Talked about. And I think he was looking for someone that he knew, that was there. And to try to sort it out.

Right? And I let him do most of the talking. I didn't pressure him.

At all. I believed that he was having -- you know, he was struggling. And he needed to just talk. And I believed my purpose was to listen.

Right? I know other reporters would have handled it differently. And that's okay. That's not the kind of reporter that I am.

And I myself was having my own like, why didn't I die?

Right?

Because it went right over my head.

And -- and so I -- he had the conversation about God.

He's funny. I thought it was the biggest mosquito in the world that hit me.

But he had talked profoundly about purpose. You know, and God.

And how God was in that moment.

It --

GLENN: I love the way you -- in the book, I love the way you said that as he's kind of working it out in his own he head.

He was like, you know, I -- I -- I always knew that there was some sort of, you know -- that God was present.

He said, but now that this has happened.

I look back at all of the trials.

All of the tribulations. Literally, the trials.

All of the things that have happened. And he's like, I realized God was there the whole time.

SALENA: Yes. He does. And it's fascinating to have been that witness to history, to have those conversations with him. Because I'm telling you. And y'all know, I can talk. I didn't say much of anything.

I just -- I just listened. I felt that was my purpose, in that moment.

To give him that space, to work it out.

I'm someone that is, you know, believes in God.

I'm Catholic. I followed my faith.

And -- and so, I thought, well, this is why God put me here. Right?

And to -- to have that -- to hear him talk about purpose, to hear him say, Salena. Why did I put a chart down?

I'm like, sir. I don't know. I thought you were Ross Perot for a second.

He never has a chart. And he laughed. And then he said, why did I put that chart down?

By that term, I never turned my head away from people at the rally. That's true.

That relationship is very transactional. It's very -- they feed off of each other.

It's a very emotive moment when you attend a rally. Because he has a way of talking at a rally. That you believe that you are seeing.

And he said, and I never turn my head away.

I never turn my head away.

Why did I turn my head away?

I don't remember consciously thinking about turning my head away. And then he says to me, that was God, wasn't it?

Yes, sir. It was. It was God.

And he said, that's -- that's why I have a new purpose.

And so, Glenn. I think it's important, when you look at the breadth of what has happened, since he was sworn in.

You see that purpose, every day.

He doesn't let up.

He continues going.

And it brings back to the beginning of the book.

Where you find out, that there was another president that was shot at in Butler.

And that was George Washington. And how different the country would have been, had he died in that moment.

And now think about how different the country would be, had President Trump died in that moment. There would be --

GLENN: We're talking to -- we're talking to Salena Zito. About her new book called Butler. The assassination attempt on President Trump. And it is riveting.

And, you know, it is so good. I wish the press would read it. Because it really explains who we are, who Trump supporters are. Who are, you know, red staters. It is so good at that. She's the best at that.