RADIOAugust 28, 2024

Tulsi Gabbard: I'm STILL on a Harris/Biden watchlist after Trump endorsement

Former Democratic Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard recently exposed that she had been put on the TSA’s “Quiet Skies” watchlist, which is often used for tracking potential domestic terrorists. Now, she tells Glenn that she’s STILL on that watchlist! Tulsi joins Glenn to discuss this, as well as her endorsement of Donald Trump. She tells Glenn that the Harris/Biden “neocon elitist warmongers” have gotten us dangerously close to war … but seem to be more focused on diversity of skin color and gender identity than diversity of thought and actual military readiness. And as the woman who destroyed Kamala Harris in a 2020 election debate, Gabbard also details her advice to Donald Trump ahead of his first debate with Harris.

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GLENN: We welcome to the program now, Tulsi Gabbard. The author of For Love of Country, which really, took on a whole new meaning, Tulsi. Yesterday, when you endorsed Donald Trump. Welcome.

TULSI: Yes. Good morning, Glenn, it's great to be with you.

GLENN: Yes. Did you realize how much you looked like Wonder Woman? I'm just pointing that out there.

TULSI: No. Hey, I'll take that compliment any day of the week.

GLENN: So tell me, why it is so important for you to now take the step that will make you even less popular with people, on the left.
(laughter)
And put a target on your back, honestly. Because they think he is absolute Hitler.

Why are you joining the campaign?

TULSI: I mean, the title of my book says it all.

It is truly for love of country.

And because I know, first hand, what's at stake, in this election.

You know, so often, we have elections that are kind of reduced to partisan differences, of, well, you know, Democrats think this, and Republicans think that. But this election is very different. It's much bigger than one party versus another. What's at stake here is freedom.

And the fact that we have a candidate, in Donald Trump, who believes in freedom. And the Constitution.

And who -- and I've had personal conversations with him. Who understands the cost of war. And the seriousness of the fact that because of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, we are closer to the brink of nuclear war, now, than ever before.

That's a serious issue, that he looks forward to, as president. Commander-in-chief. To taking on. Walking us back from the brink of war.

And you contrast that with Kamala Harris. Who in so many ways. Over the last three and a half years.

Has shown, she will not hesitate to under mine our freedoms.

We just saw Mark Zuckerberg come out, publicly. And say, yeah. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris essentially bullied Facebook into censoring Americans free speech.

We have seen the political retaliation against Donald Trump. We have seen the political retaliation against the free speech of everyday Americans. And I'm the most recent target for the Kamala Harris administration, for criticizing Kamala Harris.

They put me on a secret domestic terror watch list, which I'm told is still operational and still going on.

And on the issue of war and peace, which doesn't get talked about often enough, in these presidential elections. But really is core to our ability to live in a free and peaceful and prosperous society. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have gotten us embroiled in multiple wars, in different parts of the world.

And it is directly because of their foreign policy, that we sit here, one spark away from nuclear war.

GLENN: So are you -- were you shocked?

Because I was shocked.

It was almost like part of her acceptance speech, at the convention, was written by John Bolton.

She was -- I mean, she sounded like an absolute hawk, like Lindsey Graham, when it comes to war.

Did you feel that way?

TULSI: I did. I did very much so. But it didn't surprise me.

Because it was just another proof point, showing that, you know, people -- Joe Biden hasn't been calling the shots and making the decisions over the last three and a half years.

If Kamala Harris is elected president, neither will she. She is the latest figurehead for the military industrial complex, the Deep State, national security state. All of those who derived the mainstream propaganda media. Those who derive power or profit, from us being in a constant state of war, wrote those talking points.

And that script that was fed into that teleprompter. And Kamala Harris declared it loud and proud. So we know exactly who she will be working for.

Not from the American people. Not for our national security. Nor, quite frankly, does she care one iota, about those of us who wear the uniform and those who serve.

And this is very compelling, especially yesterday, that I made this announcement on the third anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing in Paris. Biden's disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. So who is running the country?

And, you know, I saw. Who was it?

Some Hollywood celebrity came out, it doesn't matter if she doesn't give an interview. It doesn't matter if she doesn't articulate her platform. She just has to win. And I thought, you know, that is voting for an oligarchy.

That's -- because we don't know who is running the country right now. It's obviously somebody, or a group of people.

They have an agenda. None of us have voted for those people.

We don't even know who it is. We're an oligarchy.

TULSI: That's exactly right.

And this is -- this is important for voters to recognize.

And, you know, the more these Hollywood celebrities, and other people say those kinds of things. It just reinforces that fact.

And also, the fact that they think, that we as voters are so stupid, as to fall for it.

To fall for the lie. The facade, that they are -- that they are creating.

Yes. It is Tony Blinken, who has turned the State Department, which is supposed to be the department that is responsible for diplomacy, and preventing more into what is essentially a war department.

And we see Jake Sullivan, president, who is a national security adviser in the White House. And we see people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, who still are calling the shots. And many others, whose faces and names. Will not be on the front page.

Or on your television any time soon. Both in the government. And outside of the government.

In the military-industrial complex. Who -- who are -- they are a part of this. They are this cabal of neocon elitist warmongers. Who will put their power and their profits ahead of people, every day of the week.

GLENN: Let me -- let me play a couple of things for you.

Because Donald Trump, I think would be wise to have you in his Department of Defense.

And there's a lot of work to do. Here's Susan rice in 2016, on the imperatives of national security.

VOICE: For starters. A diverse national security workforce, enables us to unlock all of our nation's talent.

There's some 320 million people, in the United States.

Nearly 40 percent are minorities.

And an increasing number of them are earning college and graduate degrees.

As America becomes more diverse, so too, do our best people.

The next Colin Powell, or Madeleine Albright. Or Bill Richardson.

GLENN: Stop.

I don't want to waste your time. She goes on, and she says that, inclusion is a national security imperative.

Now I want you to listen to the lieutenant colonel, who is a man, posing as a woman, who is with space force. Listen to this.

VOICE: So inclusion is a national security imperative.

We fight today, and we are going to fight in the future, using brain power.

And if that brain, who is going to revolutionize the way we fight in space. We fight in cyber, just happens to be in a trans body. You should want them all serving alongside me. And for your organizations, it's the same way.

Those perspectives that we get from a diverse set of individuals. It's been talked about on stage, a lot, regarding the science behind high-performing teams. We need those perspectives.

But it's inclusion that actually drives that. Because you can bring people in. And if they don't feel safe, to speak up. If they don't feel safe to bring their full selves to work, you're not going to get the value of the diversity.

GLENN: Okay. So, Tulsi, the kind of inclusion that I look for, and I think most Americans are for.

Is diversity of thought. Somebody at the table who has the guts to say, general. Mr. President, please do not do that. And here's why.

We don't -- we are focused on all the wrong kind of inclusion. That means nothing, to people.

Where does this fit on a priority list for you?

TULSI: Well, the fact that they care more about the color of your skin. Or how you identify, or your sexuality.

Then they do about your capability, and what you bring to the table, in service to our country. Is -- is really indicative of their entire philosophy, of their identity politics. And it's put our country in a dangerous place. I served in the Army for over 21 years, and I can tell you, having people surrounding myself with people in different positions. I started as a -- as a private. I'm now lieutenant colonel. I tell my soldiers.

Now, I'm a battalion commander. I tell them, if you disagree with my plans, or my positions, I want you to tell me.

That you disagree. And tell me why. Because you may have a better idea.

That's exactly what we should be looking. That diversity of thought, that environment. That is inclusive of people, who have a -- a -- a different way of cooling do go things.

So that we can come up with the best plan. The best course of action.

The best outcome.

And that's true of the military.

And every agency outside the government.

That to me, is what real leadership is about.

And that is essential, that changes. Another reason it's important that Donald Trump wins this election.

GLENN: So a couple of other questions, then I'll let you go.

You debated Kamala. And you pretty much wiped the floor with her.

What advice are you going to Donald Trump, if any, and what do you think about the attempt to change the rules now? By Kamala, in the debate?

TULSI: Yeah. You know. Donald Trump is not a politician. I think that's what people really, really love about him.

It wouldn't surprise you to know, again. He wouldn't do debate press like a typical politician would.

So it -- but it's been great to be able to spend some time with him. And his team.

Really for me. If there's anything I can help at all.

Why it's the fact that I shared a stage with Kamala Harris.

I know how she thinks and how she is going to -- how she's going to try to lay some traps. Try to bait Donald Trump into walking into the narrative, that she will try to push for the American people. And, quite frankly, how she's going to try, how she's -- how she will try to hide her record.

That to me, is the biggest thing. She says one thing, that is directly opposite to what her record shows. And this really will be an opportunity, for Donald Trump to expose that to the American people.

And to your second question about Kamala Harris is trying to change the rules now, less than two weeks before the debate. I think that points to that fact. That points to her weakness. That the American people need to see. She's demanding that the debate be seated. And that she be allowed to bring in notes into the debate.

Why does she need notes? If she knows the issues. If she knows the most important policies and the challenges the American people are facing today, why does she need notes?

Well, we know why. It goes back to the thing we started with, is because she needs somebody else to tell her, what to say.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Last question. Yesterday, I had RFK Jr on at this time. And conservatives like me. People who have been waiting for people to wake up, and see the insanity in the country.

Are excited. Because you're now campaigning for Donald Trump. RFK is campaigning for Donald Trump.

And it seems like there are people waking up to see, this -- this party, that says that they are protecting democracy. Is the furthest thing from, you know, defenders of democracy.

Do you see people waking up.

Have you experienced -- do you think it's happening.

Or are we --

TULSI: No. It is. It is.

And I'll give you two brief anecdotes that happened within the last 24 hours.

I land in an airport, late last night. At about 11 o'clock at night.

Was walking off the plane. And a guy named Jake walked up to me.

Said, hey. I really appreciated what you did today, and he talked about his family. His family came from a long line of traditional Democrat, you know, construction union, hard-working American families. They have voted Democrat, almost their entire lives.

And it is not until just recently, just over these past few days, that they have -- he got calls from his dad yesterday, after I made my announcement. And he said, wait. Hang on a second.

What's going on here. I need to pay closer attention to this. And rethink the way that I thought I needed to vote. Second story. There's a teacher at a small private school. Who I met during my campaign of the presidency.

In 2020. Follows me on Instagram. He talks about real education. Not the broken education system. But he's always voted for a third party candidate. He voted for me. But he voted for third party candidates.

And that's what he was going to do, and his statement yesterday to me, and on his Instagram was, hey, I think we need to rethink things. If Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard, and other common sense minded Americans who we support, are now endorsing Donald Trump.

He's like, I need to check myself. I need to look in the mirror and say, what am I doing to actually make a difference, rather than just make a statement?

GLENN: That is fantastic news.

The Western World is UNDER ATTACK... And THESE Shocking Stories are Proof

A wave of global instability is forcing Western nations to confront hard truths they’ve ignored for years. From Australia’s deadly attack and a media narrative that excuses extremist violence, to France canceling its iconic New Year’s celebration over “security concerns,” the cracks in Western resolve are becoming impossible to hide. This conversation exposes how denial, mass migration without assimilation, and media double standards are eroding public safety, cultural confidence, and the West’s ability to defend itself from growing threats.

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GLENN: You know, there's more on the -- the shooting in Australia. Did you see the comment from the mom?

The -- the hero who disarmed. He's a hero. He's getting a lot of accolades.

But here's the family of Ahmed al Ahmed. No, no, no. That's the good guy. Hang on just a second.

That's the hero. I'm just looking through all of the stories. Here it is. Here it is.

Mother of the Bondi beach shooting suspect. The mother of Naveed Akram, who along with his father, allegedly killed more than a dozen people at a Hanukkah celebration, said on Sunday, insisted her son was a good boy.

Now, I mean, I can understand, you know, you wanting to believe that, because your son is your son. You know, but I don't think -- I don't think anybody in Rob Reiner's family is thinking the brother is a good boy. They might love him still, but he's not a good boy if he indeed did that.

STU: Yeah, there could be an element of thinking, right? Like, you know, he's been overcome by addiction, or overcome by mental illness. And I think he's a good boy underneath hat. You can have that Islamic extremist terrorist son if you want.

But what you would have to say I think accompanying that, was he got infected by this extremism. And, you know, by his dad who, you know, led him down a terrible path.

GLENN: Right. Her husband.

STU: Right. That's a plausible thing, if you believe. He can't be a good boy if he's murdering people, unless, of course, Glenn, you believe that the outcome was positive.

GLENN: Well, it was positive, yes.

She said, he doesn't have a firearm. Yeah, he does.

He doesn't even go out. He doesn't mix around with friends. Well, now you're describing a loner.

He doesn't drink, smoke, or go to bad places. Anyone would wish to have a son like my son. He's a good boy.

No. No. I'm safe to say, I don't want a son like that.

STU: No. Yeah, I'm pretty sure she was about to say, and he stays away from trans fats.

That's great, just doesn't have much to do with this particular incident.

GLENN: Yeah, I would say that. Also --

STU: Can I follow up, while we're in this realm here real quick with this audio. This is -- you mentioned this briefly. But let's play a game here: Can you find the logical problem with this particular audio from ABC News?

This is about the somewhat associated shooting of the pro-Palestinian group. Or the pipe bombing, from the pro-Palestinian group you discussed earlier this hour. This is a real clip, not edited.

GLENN: All right.

VOICE: Nowhere did they allege that any of these individuals wanted anybody to be harmed as a result of these pipe bombs. Specifically, it does appear that their aim was to sent a political message, as they said, prosecutors yesterday in this news conference.

VOICE: Carol and Page also discussed plans for follow-up attacks after their bombings, which included plans to a target ICE agents and vehicles with pipe bombs.

STU: Now, can you detect any issue with that?

GLENN: I found two.

I found two.

One, they're not targeting anybody with the use of the pipe bomb!

STU: Right.

GLENN: Now, maybe. Maybe nobody gets hurt like that.

But experience and history tells me. Sometimes when you don't know what you're doing, pipe bombs hurt people.

STU: Right. Yes.
GLENN: And sometimes when you do know what you're doing, pipe bombs hurt people.

That's the -- that's problem number one. Problem number two was, they stated they were then going to target ICE agents?

STU: Right.

GLENN: As if ICE agents aren't people?

STU: You know, Glenn, that is exactly what I came up with. I think, I've heard this statement. You mentioned the same sentiment earlier on the program. A lot of people are saying this. I guess, in their conversations that were, you know, picked off as we were going through this investigation. There were some similarities. If you think back to early environmental terrorist attacks.

ALF and ELF, some of those attacks -- not all, but some of those attacks were targeted at infrastructure, and things around the -- you know, the oil industry. But not -- you know, intentionally trying not to harm the workers or whatever.

And some of their I guess conversations back and forth echoed that sentiment. Like, let's put them this a place where people aren't going to be.

Again, I don't think that's good. I don't think of these people as heroes. But Hollywood would make movies over people like that and how wonderful and glorious they were.

But at the end, they seemed to ignore, that they had attacks planned against ICE agents. And the only way that makes logical sense is if you don't think ICE agents are people.

GLENN: Are people. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Dehumanize. Dehumanize. Dehumanize. That's why I've been saying, we've got to stop MAID. We have to appreciate life again.

We have to stand for life. All life!

If we don't, you can just say, well, that's not really a person.

You've got to stand for life.

One more story in this, just to show you how close we are to losing Europe.

The French who aren't -- are not used to waving the white flag.

You know, they're -- they're -- they're tough. They have decided on New Year's Eve, that they are not going to hold the fireworks show, that they always hold at the art drive.

So they always have a New Year's Eve concert and fireworks show, but this year, they've decided that they're going to scrap it, wait until you hear what they were going to replace it with. But they're going to scrap it because there are security concerns such as, quote, unpredictable crowd movements.
You mean, like the crowds that are coming over on boats and coming on to your shore? You mean those crowd movements? Because, I mean, I think we know what they're saying here. They're saying that they're very concerned that there might be trouble. There might be some sort of, you know, shootings or activity or terrorists. But they're not -- they're just saying, it's unpredictable crowd movements. And so we're -- we're suggesting that we cancel the decades old fireworks celebration on New Year's Eve.

That's like canceling Times Square. Okay?

We're going to cancel that. And instead, replace it with -- this is a quote.

With a prerecorded video to be viewed in the safety and comfort of your French living room.
(laughter)

GLENN: Oh. So we're watching an old celebration.

Why not? Dick Clark. We got all those tapes of Dick Clark. Let's just cancel New Year's Eve and Times Square and just play one from 1977. I mean, who didn't love that?

STU: Not only is that completely insane. It's also a great example of why virtual school didn't work.

Right?

You know, that's not the same thing. My wife say big fan of around this time of year. Every television has the Yule log on it, you know. And at his help you. It's nice. It helps you celebrate the season, a little bit. But it's not the same as going around the fire, and feeling the heat, it's not the same.
GLENN: Right. Yeah. There's no warmth. There's no warmth. But leave it to the French to surrender. I mean, we've lost France. We've lost France.

If they're not willing to say what's going on. Look, there's terrorists here. And we're afraid of a large crowd. And we're lost, because we let too many people in here. We have no idea who they are. And they're dangerous. And they want to kill us and kill our civilization.

We're working on that, so we can have this next year.

This year, we will to have cancel it.

But they're not saying that. They're saying, you know what, watch it from home. And it will be a videotape of an old one. Oh, okay.

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The HIDDEN history behind Trump’s controversial Rob Reiner comments

President Trump recently received heat from his own party over his comments about the allegedly murdered actor Rob Reiner. Glenn Beck explains why he believes Trump’s comments were not a good move, but also tells of a meeting he had with Trump that he believes explains why Trump hates TDS so much…

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GLENN: You know, I don't -- I don't -- I don't want to get into -- into the mix with everybody and personalities. I like -- my goal is to make things about right and wrong, and not about personalities.

But I do want to spend just a second on President Trump's post yesterday about Rob Reiner. It made me sad. It made me really sad. Because I like the president.

And -- and he doesn't help himself when he does things like this. But I think I understand this in a different way.

You know, the President has said, you know, all kinds of things about me at times when I disagree with him. He'll say, "Oh, he's just a failing fat blob," or whatever. And that's just him. That's just the way -- when he's in a fight, he is a -- he's a knife fighter. And I get it. I don't like it. But I get it. This was different. This was different.
And this was -- you know, you can say a lot of stuff politically about Rob Reiner. But politics didn't matter yesterday. We weren't -- I mean, that's not -- it just didn't matter. It didn't matter.

But I think to the President, it does. I saw a change in the President -- I've seen two changes in the President. I've seen a change in him when they started going after him and his family. After 2020. And they really started going after his family. And we know this because we showed you the documents. What they -- they had a plan. Take him down.

Take his family down to stop MAGA at all costs. Put them in jail. I mean, those are their words.

And it's -- it was frightening to read.

And I talked to the president, I don't know. Maybe six months after, you know, we were in 2021. Maybe six months. Eight months.

And I said, how are you holding up?

And he had talked a little about how he felt. He had really let people down because he had things going in the right direction. And now, look at it, and look how screwed up things are going to get. And how the economy is going to be damn near impossible to fix. It will take us time. But we can't fix it. Pragmatism, but they've just destroyed it. And I said, how are you personally.

How are you holding up?

And this is the first change I saw. He -- his body changed. And he said, they're going after my damn children!

And it was this Dad. All of a sudden, he wasn't the president or former president, he wasn't Donald Trump. He was a Dad. And it was every Dad response in him. And he said, "You don't go after our children."

And I saw him really, truly mad for the very first time, and it was righteous indignation.

Then after he was shot, I saw another change. I saw him recognize that God existed. I mean, I know he believed that in God. I don't know that he believed that God was actually part of, you know, the story. The everyday story. You know, I don't know how he views God in that way.

But I know that he recognized that God was in his -- in the story of America now.

Firsthand, he witnessed it. The reason why I said this made me sad yesterday, is because -- I don't agree with what he said. I feel -- it was -- it was sad.

Because he is -- he has been kicked in the head over and over and over again by some of these people, that he -- Christmas is about the baby Jesus coming again.

And what he can do in your life. And the biggest thing that he taught was, love your enemies. Don't hate them. But that's really, really hard to do. And the President isn't there yet. On this. And it -- it made me sad. How did you feel about it, Stu?

STU: I didn't like it at all. I think maybe the same as you. You know, one of the things that bothered me about it.

Because you hit many of the points that I had on it without the personal insight that is illustrative of -- of -- of what he's going through. I think there is something to understand there. You know, obviously I --

GLENN: Big time.

STU: One of the things that is difficult about life in your attempt to master it is to try to act the right way, even when you're faced with circumstances like that. And, you know, I get it. I get why he's angry and doesn't like the guy. The man -- you used a phrase, I think in there, where you said, he's a knife fighter. This guy was actually just in a legitimate knife fight and was murdered. It was a -- it was -- this actually really happened.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: And, look, my honest opinion is, it's indefensible. You know, I like President Trump. I think he does a lot of great things for the country. We've defended him on a lot of different things. A lot of times when he's being attacked, I think he deserves defense. In this case, you know, it is -- you know, it is what it is.

It is priced in to everyone's understanding of who Donald Trump is. And everything I heard about him in personal situations where he cares about the person. Is that he's very generous. He's very likable.

He's very -- he's one of those people that you like being around. You know, that is something that I've heard from tons of people. This part of him is really hard for me to square with what I've heard from -- from other -- from everybody that I've talked to, and has been on the inside with him.

And so I don't -- I don't have a defense for it. I think it's really bad. And I will say one more thing on this real quickly, Glenn.

I know a part of this that I think is difficult. In that, one of the things I took from the aftermath of that immediately was -- I don't know if pride is the right word. But like, I really liked the way conservatives responded to it.

We didn't do what they did, after Charlie Kirk.

We didn't do what they did after they shot the president. Right?

Like we -- they celebrated it. They -- they were horrible human beings, and I enjoyed the high ground, that we had there.

GLENN: Yeah. Me too.

STU: And it's difficult to make the argument that we have the high ground. When, you know, the President of the Republican Party. The Republican President of the United States, the most high profile person on, quote, unquote, our side, whatever that means these days, is a guy who, you know, kind of did some of the things that they did.

You know, so I don't -- I don't like that. I understand as part of Donald Trump. And I think if we're all adults here, we're able to kind of price that in and judge him on everything that he's doing. And when I mean pricing in. I think that's a negative part of him. Overall, you have to take everything into context.

GLENN: Right. And if we're all adults here, you know, we should be able to say, to those we love and respect, bad move. I didn't like that. Don't do that.

And I think, you know, I think because the left always says, well, you never take on your own.

Yes, we do. We take on our own, all the time. All the time. And I think it's important that we say, didn't like that. Thought that was a bad move. It didn't look good. It just wasn't right.

He's -- I wish -- and, again, though, I -- I'm not excusing it, but I am tempering it with none of us have gone through what he has gone through.

STU: So true.

GLENN: His family, somebody is shooting at him. He's being called fascist Hitler all the time. I mean, that wears on you and changes you.

And, you know, he's having a hard time forgiving that. And I kind of understand that. I wish he would take that on and take on the forgiveness, so he could be more a peacemaker in all of those things. But that is his own personal journey.

But --

STU: Yeah. And I think when we talk about like a terrible crime that's occurred.

GLENN: Sad.

STU: Like, I don't know. If there was -- think about some awful situation and at times you'll see -- he'll hear family members say the worst possible thing.

You know, if your kid is murdered. And by some -- somewhat of a particular area or group or whatever.

And they might react with just an awful thing about that group or area.

And you just. We all have a bit of understanding. Right?

A person going through a massively emotional thing.

And lashing out.

You want -- you know, the example you bring up all the time, Glenn.

Of the maybe -- the ultimate example of being able to have restraint was the Amish situation from years ago. Where, you know, you were talking about mass murder. And they were to the family's house that night, right?

And saying, we --

GLENN: Not that night. That afternoon.

I mean, within an hour. The kids were not even out of the schools yet. Their bodies were still laying in the school. And the Amish went, oh, my gosh. The killer is dead too.

He was a member of our community. His wife lives here.

What is she feeling? She's feeling completely alone. My gosh. What an example. I couldn't do that.

STU: Right. I don't even think I come close to that standard in that moment.

GLENN: No. But I would like to.

STU: That's the range. Some people act -- react really well. Some people react really poorly.

And I think we all understand the emotion and everything that takes over in a situation like that. And that has to be factored in, I think, to Trump. Of course, Rob Reiner wasn't responsible to the shooting. He was just a liberal who said bad things about Trump. And look, he's a very unique person. And a very unique situation, that I don't think anyone in the world has ever experienced.

You know, what happened with him over his life.

But may I just say, you still haven't forgiven RFK Jr for what he said about me.
(laughter)
Okay?

STU: As I said, I'm not Amish. You know, I like technology. I don't have any wagons. I didn't say I'm perfect.

GLENN: Right.

STU: No. I have -- I have -- I have absolutely forgiven RFK Jr for what he said. And if you didn't know, he accused Glenn of being a traitor. He said, he should be charged with treason. The penalty of which is death.

So, you know, I don't like that. And RFK Jr. I don't like for a lot of his policies. Some of them, by the way, I do really like. Some of them, I think are really positive. I could give you a list of some of the negative things he's done as well.

GLENN: I can too.

STU: That doesn't mean -- I certainly was find that to be an appropriate context, when the embrace of RFK Jr is occurring.

I think we need to understand what people are, and what they're doing. If he's apologetic about that, I do forgive him in that sense. Do I want him on the show and promoting all his books and his candidacy?

No. I did not -- I did not like that. But, you know, a lot of people do. I will say is, you're right, though.

We all have our hang-ups.

GLENN: I do. I certainly was.

STU: I will say this, though.

And, you know, again, all the context here. I know people are really defensive of Donald Trump, appropriately.

Because of the fact that he's targeted unfairly. I understand why people are defensive of him. I can tell you this. I really don't like RFK Jr.

He's one of my least favorite people in politics. I'm just not a fan. I could give you other names of people. Most of them revolve around Olivia Nuzzi, who whatever. I don't have feelings about her. But the story was packed with people.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: Cuomos for sure.
GLENN: Yeah.

STU: God forbid, one of these people that I really don't like, was murdered and his family and his spouse.

I can promise you. I can promise you, I will not be tweeting anything like what Donald Trump tweeted.

That is just a -- is a -- is a situation where I understand -- I understand the context around it, that we just discussed.

I don't think there's a defense to it. I think there's something, I really hope he has an awakening to at some point.

GLENN: I think that is enough to be said on that.

Now maybe we should examine ourselves, and say, where do we have that hardness in our heart that we should learn from and remove this holiday season?

Why America's "Surveillance State" Has Proven to be a TOTAL Failure

America is facing a shocking security breakdown—from a mass shooting at one of the most heavily surveilled campuses in the United States to a deadly ISIS attack in Syria that exposes the cracks in U.S. intelligence and foreign-policy strategy. As surveillance systems fail, former extremists gain power abroad, and radical Islamist networks globalize their reach, the West is confronting a threat both inside and outside its borders. This episode uncovers the uncomfortable truth behind Brown University’s unanswered questions, Syria’s escalating instability, and why the West may be running out of time to get its own house in order.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: I wanted to bring Jason in -- I wanted to bring Jason in because the news that we talked about a minute ago in Australia, then Brown.

There's some weird stuff happening with the Brown shooting. And we -- we don't know much about that. And also, Syria. So let me start with Brown University, Jason. Why is this one weird, as our chief researcher, why is this one weird?

JASON: Well, there comes a point where, you know, as a society, we just end up getting used to the massive surveillance state we live in. And I think we're just like, okay. Fine.

We're never not going to be surveilled 24/7. Maybe there's some benefits to it.

Well, no!

It doesn't seem that way. Because the people were asking the people at Brown. Like, how is it that you have not fully identified the shooter yet? And that's a very good question. Because if you go back to around 2021, there were people writing about how Brown University was one of the most surveilled campuses of the United States.

GLENN: How is it we only have one picture of this guy from the back?

JASON: Right!

GLENN: Apparently the one thing that will help you get away with any crime is a hoodie.

JASON: Yeah. Wear something over your head and a coat.

Apparently, that foils the entire surveillance state. Also, we have nothing to worry about with surveillance. I don't know.

GLENN: Yeah. Right. Right.

JASON: And on top of that, Kash Patel, the FBI director said that they sprung into action. And they activated their cellular monitoring system to help identify the person that has now been let go. Again, that's another layer of this surveillance state that I think a lot of us have been worried about.

And that didn't do anything either. That helped give us the wrong suspect? What is all this stuff for?

It's not keeping us safe, that's for sure.

GLENN: Hmm. I don't want to jump to any conclusions on, you know, what we have, what we don't have. I'm assuming that they have more. They just haven't shown it.

I would like to -- you know, we could help. You show us some pictures.

I think it's odd.

What happened in Syria over the weekend with al-Qaeda.

JASON: Yeah. In Syria.

There's a ton of news, especially involving ISIS, who is very much active and still very much planning attacks.

GLENN: So wait. Wait. Wait. Was this ISIS, or was this al-Qaeda?

JASON: This is ISIS. That's what they're saying. They're saying it's a lone ISIS perpetrator. The location was symbolic as well. The location as in or around Palmyra. Which, I don't know if you remember, that was a scene of a gruesome ISIS video back at the height of their caliphate, where they behead a lot of people in that area.

GLENN: Right. Right. Yes. That's where they lined them up in the orange jumpsuits. Remember everybody was kneeling down in the sand. And they started beheading people. Yes, I remember.

JASON: It was one of those UNESCO sites with ruins all around. And it was very crazy. Brutal video. But another brutal attack. I believe it was three US service members that were killed in this attack. There's a lot of speculation about to go, on if this person was working. I think he was actually at a time working with the security services that are in Syria right now, under the new president. He -- he could have been, you know, a sleeper in that organization. Who knows? But for -- the one thing I do know. And I don't understand the direction we're moving in Syria. I don't understand how a former al-Qaeda guy suddenly is an all right guy because he puts a suit on. And now he's the president of Syria. And he's our ally.

I don't understand that. The Trump administration, maybe they have more information, that I don't know.

I would love to get more of an explanation on this.

As of now, I don't see this going any direction other than a whole lot worse.

You look around that entire area. You have a former al-Qaeda guy now the president of Syria.

You have the rest of Syria, an absolute Dumpster fire. You have Iraq. I hesitate to call these countries.

They're so far down the sectarian, you know, spiral that this is.

But I don't see how this is going to go anywhere, but south, from here on out.

We're in an absolute war with these radical Islamists. And it's not just in the Middle East. It's globalize the intifada has landed on shores all over the world. And while there are politicians that will not denounce that. That is exactly what's happening. Sorry!

GLENN: So I think that's where -- I think that's what -- that explains Trump's thinking. That Trump does not want these everlasting wars to go on.

He does not want to be fighting in the Middle East. He doesn't want to really be fighting anywhere. He will, if he has to. But he's focused more on the American homeland. And the American hemisphere.

And so I think he is -- I think he's letting the Middle East take care of itself.

And as long as they can all get along with each other and Israel.

And recognize that, you know, Iran and the -- the -- the al-Qaeda, the, you know, Muslim Brotherhood. Et cetera, et cetera.

Trying to coax them all into. Hey. These are kind of your enemies here.

You know, ISIS is a big enemy to us and to peace.

And I think he's hoping that they will start to take care of themselves. Whether they will or not, I don't know. You know, it's never happened were. But it's worth trying. We've been playing this other game of us getting involved in everything for 100 years. We know that doesn't work.

So I'm guessing what Trump is thinking is, we know that doesn't work. We're not going to do that. Let's try to give peace a chance, and help them stomp this out, because it will be prosperous for all of them and plant those seeds as deeply as you can to see what happens. But we're not getting involved in any of that. I have a feeling, but there will be a military response to this, I'm sure. Won't you agree?

JASON: Oh, one hundred percent, and to tack on to what you're saying, I would hope that the President would go with his gut on this.

Because the previous ways this has been handled with Islamists, especially in this area. They've screwed it up.

They don't know what they're doing. Although, they think they know what they're doing. I'll go back to history. The Iran and Iraq War. We supported both size on that. In a similar -- in a similar strategy. So we're like, okay. We don't like either one of these groups. Sectarian groups to get too large. Let's fund this country at the same time we fund this country. We'll arm them. They'll fight each other, and they'll be fine. We do that all the time.

So now, the only thing I can think of is that's what they're thinking with the Syria president, this former al-Qaeda guy. Okay. Well, fine. They'll be anti-Iran, so they can counter Iran.

It's literally the same exact strategy, that they're going for. And I get it. That means that we don't have to get involved. I guess in the initial point.

But we always end up having to get involved after the fire erupts and --

GLENN: We know -- look, I think he's trying to buy time, quite honestly. Get us out of that.

Let us recover, and hopefully not go back to it. Try to buy hopefully some real peace.

But we all know how this will end. It's never going to work in the long-term. Because we as the West have to concentrate on our own homelands. You're seeing that with what happened in Australia. We have let the barbarian into the gates. And we've got to focus on that. We've got to get this cancer, cut out of our own societies. Because it's not good.