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RADIOFebruary 15, 2023

Glenn: UFOs a DECOY away from Nord Stream Pipeline rumors?

It’s shocking how little information the U.S. government has told the American people about the UFOs that we targeted over the weekend, and Senator Mike Lee — who recently attended a briefing about it all — agrees. He joins Glenn to explain why that Senate briefing was so ‘frustrating’ and he questions why these objects were destroyed in the first place. Plus, Glenn and Sen. Lee theorize another possibility behind the federal government's focus on the UFOs: Are they a DISTRACTION or a DECOY away from recent rumors about the U.S.' possible involvement in the Nord Stream Pipeline’s destruction? Because if that's true, Glenn says, we’re heading down a ‘very dark road…’

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Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: We go to Senator Mike Lee. Hello, Senator, how are you, sir?

MIKE: Doing great, thank you very much, Glenn.

GLENN: I want to give you a couple of headlines.

US intercepts four Russian war planes yesterday, near Alaska.

The next headline.

US warns, it will defend the Philippines, after Chinese laser was shot at their Coast Guard.
Let's see here. Norway warns of growing importance of Russian nuclear deterrent. China's President Xi conveyed his support yesterday, for Iran, during a visit from the first visit from the Iranian Prime Minister.

We are -- we are not in good shape.

Do you and members of the intelligence committee, have any idea, what's going on?

MIKE: Well, we know some things are going on. We know certain things are happening. There's a whole lot we don't know. And in particular, there's a whole lot we don't know about the so-called objects, brought down by fighter jets, firing missiles over the weekend.

That was the focus of yesterday's classified briefing.

GLENN: Okay. So, Mike, we hear balloons. We hear that they now -- the Pentagon came out yesterday, after your briefing and said, you know what, it's nothing. These are probably just commercial balloons. But we have the Canadians sending out the HazMat teams, to look for this, and we hear this morning, that they are UAPs. Which I guess could be balloons. But usually, those are, you know, something solid. These were the size of cars.

And they weren't balloons. They were metal.

Is that true?

MIKE: Yeah. So, first of all, we don't really know what they are. I don't know how they claim now, to know what their nature is. Whether they're commercial, military, or from some other origin.

Because they haven't found them. I -- I suspected at this point, that they're theorizing on what it might be. That is what was so frustrating yesterday, they held this classified briefing, to tell us what happened.

And they showed us, to tell us basically what had happened. We had all hoped and expected, based on public statements, that they had covered what was left of these objects.

And that they were studying them. They hadn't found them, at least as of yesterday, when they briefed us. They hadn't found them. Because we don't really know what they are.

GLENN: I don't know what you can and can't say. Come on. We launched missiles. We know we have the video from the cockpits. We know that.

MIKE: Yeah. We repeatedly asked them about that activity. Show us anything about documentation of video footage, anything like that. They said, yeah. We have some that aren't really useful. The object is so small. So far away.

That the resolution doesn't really do anything for us.

GLENN: And why would we shoot them down?

MIKE: It's an excellent question. So we shot them down, not knowing what they were, just based on their altitude. We just knew that they were there.

But I -- I still can't fathom why it made sense to scramble fighter jets, shoot missiles at them.

Bring them down. When we have no idea, what they are.

GLENN: Okay.

MIKE: They're apparently not that concerned about it. Or else, they would be frantic. And they're not that.

GLENN: Okay. We found out last night, that the United States government had been tracking that Chinese balloon, for over a week. Once it was launched from China, we locked on to it, and tracked it. Did they tell you that yesterday?

MIKE: There are things in there, that I probably shouldn't repeat, from what I know. But it's -- it's safe to say, that we did know, before this thing hit the United States, that it was in the air.

We were aware of it. And we knew what was happening.

And so at that moment, it really should have brought the thing down. And at whatever moment they -- they realized, that it was coming on to the United States. And that it had the ability to collect data, they should have brought it down.

We kept hearing last week, about the fact that, well, been safe, to bring it down to the United States.

Nonsense.

GLENN: Bullcrap.

MIKE: Even at 60,000 feet, these things don't have a glide capacity. They're balloons. So if you puncture the balloon, it will head straight down. Yes, there is a debris field. But there's a lot of space, between Alaska. Off the coast of Alaska. To be clear.

And the rest of the United States. Where there are miles and miles around them, where there are no people.

And they should have brought it down. Here's what I think, Glenn. What I suspect was, these were makeup calls. They were compensating last weekend, for what they didn't do the previous week. Which is take bold aggressive action. Only, they took bold aggressive action on the wrong objects, at the wrong time.

GLENN: Are we going to know? Do you think we'll ever know this?

MIKE: I certainly hope so. It seems almost unbelievable to me. That we shut down three of these things over the weekend. We didn't cover any of them.

And if there was no immediate threat, as there apparently was -- in the explanation we've heard. Enter space, where aviation happens. You know, okay. Fine.

That's understandable. Sometimes you need to bring things down. But there was no immediate threat.

If that being the case, why can't they use a different kind of aircraft, one that could have surveyed up close, before shooting it down.

You can't really do that. We have a fighter jet, traveling at the speed of sound.

GLENN: Correct. I got to -- it is like our government is being run by, you know, Mrs. Hoffelmeyer's fourth grade class.

It is. I mean, and just the boys.

Because the girls would be a little smarter.

The boys, is just like, let's blow it up out of the sky. This is crazy talk.

There is another possibility here. That they are using this -- whatever it is. That they're using this, to get people off of the Nord Stream pipeline story, from Seymour Hersh.

And I don't know how much you can talk about it, or -- or what. What you know.

But, Mike, I find this extraordinarily concerning. Because there's only a few countries that could do it. None of them really had the incentive, or they would have let us know. If it was another country, would you have gotten a briefing on that?

Do you think, if they would have told us?

MIKE: It's -- it's hard to say.

I -- we don't necessarily get those briefings, just because they feel like it. Usually, it's because a member is asking.

Or because there's been national news about something. And they decide to brief all members. I tell you, I haven't gotten a briefing on this. I'm trying to get one.

All this, of course, goes back to this report published by Journalist Seymour Hersh, last week, indicating that according to his story, there were specialized US Navy teams that planted explosives there. And that the United States was responsible. I don't know whether this is true. I'm trying to ascertain whether it's true.

But I will say this, we need to approach a near peer nuclear-armed geopolitical adversary, with extreme caution.

And so I would like to think, that if we were going to do something like this, this would be some kind of clear authorization from Congress.

You, the chief executive. The president of the United States, commander-in-chief doesn't have the ability to take us to war.

I don't think it's a stretch to say, that doing this, not just to Russia -- a nuclear arms near geopolitical adversaries.

GLENN: All of Europe.

MIKE: It's also an attack on France and on Germany, and it affects a lot of Europe.

It's also an attack on France and Germany, and it affects a lot of Germany. I would like to think, it gets congressional authorization of some sort, before doing that.

GLENN: Well, he said, that there was a way around that. Because obviously, they should have done that, if we were involved.

I just don't believe that we -- that all of the allies, with all of our technology, and everything else.

We can't figure out, okay.

It looks like it's probably these people. I -- I personally, because they're so zipped up about it. It's got to come from the West. And the only ones that can do it really, are France and us. Or Great Britain.

And those guys won't do it. But, you know, you look at -- you look at this, Mike.

And if -- even if that's not true, can we find out if anything is true? As far as, there's these secret SEAL teams, that can be trained off the books, so Congress doesn't know about it?

MIKE: Yeah. Look, I think there are a lot of details, at least enough details, in the Seymour Hersh piece. That there should be fairly amenable for being proven or disproven.

Because either certain things match up, or they don't. It may be easier to disprove than to prove. But I think that can get us a lot of the way there. And there are a lot of others that could have done it. In theory, it could be China. Perhaps China wanted to make sure it had access to more of Russia's natural gas, and that it could get it at a lower price. In theory, it could have been China.

But -- and there are a handful of others, who there could have been. But this is worrisome for me, Glenn. For the simple reason.

Look, I don't know Seymour Hersh. I'm not familiar with any of the facts, alleged in his report.

But there are a couple of things that worry. Number one, on February 9th, 2022. President Biden during a press conference, said that if -- if Russia attacks Ukraine, that there will no longer be a Nord Stream two.

The journalists who had asked him the questions, about what he meant, was doing her job. And followed up with, what do you mean by that?

That pipeline is not under our control. And he reassured her. Believe me, we have the means to do it. And it will be done.

It will not exist.

GLENN: Well, what --

MIKE: So when you cut the fact with the fact that in this country, we have for a long time, seen overreaches from the executives, to the point where a lot of people accept now, that in the name of a clandestine operation, the United States can effectively wage war with them -- an act of Congress, authoring it. That really does concern me.

Not that I'm certain, that we did this. Because it's certainly not. It's not that I could verify the Hersh article. I can't. It really troubles me, that I can't really rule it out.

GLENN: And you can't get a briefing on it. All right. Hang on just a second.

Because when we come back, I want to ask you, do we want to know.

Stu and I were talking about this, this morning. And we were like, you know, the blue pill might be the one to take on this.

MIKE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Because this is an impeachable. Maybe worse. It's an act of war.

It's -- I don't know anybody that is going to fight against Russia, because -- if they attack us. Because we -- we blew up the pipeline. Europe -- I mean, the world will hate us.

And it means war. So I don't know -- do we want to know? And we'll come back with Mike Lee for that answer in a minute.

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GLENN: All right. Mike Lee. Do we want to know?

MIKE: Look, I think the American people do deserve to be in charge with their government.

GLENN: I agree with that.

MIKE: It's very much a mixed bag. Because as you alluded to before the break, the answer to this question, it turns out the United States was responsible, has very dire consequences.

And I don't -- I'm not even talking yet about what happens within our government.

What the consequences there might be.

GLENN: Is this -- does this rise -- does this rise to more than an impeachable offense.

MIKE: Quite possibly, yes.

I believe it does.

Because if you go to such great lengths, to engage in an attack. A provocative offensive attack, on a a nuclear armed geopolitical adversary, and you do so in a manner that violates our Constitution.

Because that's how I see it anyway. It seems to me like an act of war, last I checked.

War can't be just declared, just decided by our president.

And sure, I know clandestine operations have. Discreet military strikes are something different, than something provocative on this scale. That inevitably lead to and, in fact, are war.

GLENN: Yeah. So if we would find out, that this is even a real possibility, what happens?

What do we do?

How do we tell our allies? How do we tell Russia, so we can kind of -- before we say, I'm going to tell you something. But you have to promise not to be mad.

I mean, we've got to -- you know, in that case. Yeah. We have to promos, that you're not going to launch a nuclear strike.

How do we tell them this?

MIKE: I -- I don't know.

That's part of what makes this such a difficult thing.

But one thing I do know is that ignorance is never something that will put us in a position of strength.

I do think it's important if we get answers on this. I -- I would like to know.

And -- and whether we end up finding out or not, whether this thing is buried so far, so deep by the military intelligence industrial complex in Washington, that we can't get to it. Whether we find out or not, whether we did it or not, I think it's very important for us to have this national conversation.

GLENN: It is.

MIKE: Because for decades, we've seen this gradual accretion of power, within the executive branch, when it comes to the war powers.

And increasingly, Glenn, the way wars are fought these days, they don't typically have soldiers lined up in a battlefield, in corresponding parallel columns.

No. You've got -- you've got stuff like this. This is war.

In the 21st century.

And so we need to have a national conversation about the fact, that today, as -- at the time of the founding, we need our greatest, the people's representatives, to make the decision about going to war.

And clandestine operations need to be reined in to something truly discreet. This one wasn't.

GLENN: Mike Lee, thank you so much for everything you're doing.

And we pray for you. And we'll keep you in our prayers for your safety. As you continue to go down this road.

Thank you. You bet. Buh-bye.

Do you want to know?

It's like

it's almost as if, if we don't -- if it did happen. And we don't expose it. Then we get what we deserve.

STU: Yeah. I mean, of course, I want to know.

But there's that feeling of -- you know, of course, Russia knows, if our media is starting to know. Then Russia knows too. The question is: If it becomes public. And it becomes obvious to everybody. Then Russia has to respond to -- to do something for their own people.

GLENN: They have to.

STU: And that response, even if it is, you know --

GLENN: But maybe the people can temper our response to theirs.

STU: Right.

GLENN: You know what I mean?

Like, okay. We deserve that.

STU: It's a dark road though.

GLENN: It's a very dark road. Very dark road.

STU: Look, the blue pill was the right one to take. Just take the freaking blue pill, get along with everyone else.

4 stories that show your ESG score resistance IS WORKING!

Glenn has been warning about ESG for a while now, urging us all to take a stand against it. It’s a credit-style system placed onto corporations, ranking them based on environmental, social, and governance scores. Those scores can then affect the company's loans, financial stability, or banking relationships. And soon, ESG may be ranking YOU, too. But, thankfully, Americans have been taking a stand. And that stand seems to be working. In this clip, Glenn details four recent stories that show ESG may be on the decline…

Transcript

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GLENN: Good news on the ESG front.

Insurance company, lords of London, has announced its exit from a net zero alliance. For insurers.

This is the sixth insurance company in the last couple of weeks.

The Net Zero Alliance convened by the United Nations, seeks to commit group members composed of the world's leading insurers, and reinsurers, to fight climate change.

As part of this, members have to transition their insurance and reinsurance, under portfolios to net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

On Friday, Lloyds of London quit the Net Zero Association, took the total members who have quit. I'm sorry. Not last couple of weeks. One week.

Last week alone, to six, which represents a fifth of the total 30 members. Since March, the total of ten members, have walked.

STU: Yeah. Yeah. Good.

GLENN: This is really, really good.

How about this one?

Germans are questioning. Remember, you American. You right-wing American. Hate-mongering. Mao information delivering conspiracy theorist.

We're not banning gas. We're not thinking about banning gas stoves or gas heaters.

We're not doing it. Except we are.

The Germans, such right-wing conspiracy theorists. Germans are banning gas and oil boilers.

And replace them with electric heat pumps.

Germany wants to become net zero by 2045. To this and the government recently announced, it will ban gas boilers, effectively forcing people to switch to heat pumps.

Because our electricity will be much better for the planet.

Yeah. Because we won't be making any.

The cost of the ban is estimated at over 9 billion euros.

Or $10 billion.

And that's annually, annually, until 2028.

So they're upset go. They're starting to March in the streets as well. How about this one? This is the first time. This is the first time. This is how you know climate change is complete bullcrap. Okay?

Because insurance companies are still writing 30-year insurance policies for Miami. Well, I thought it was going to be underwater.

STU: Yeah, there's a lot of construction in Miami. I don't know if you have been there recently.

GLENN: How do you get the insurance companies to do it? They're writing it? It's all going to be destroyed by water. How does anybody afford insurance on an island or a coast or a Malibu?

Okay. They can do it because global warming is bullcrap.

Now, State Farm general insurance has now stopped accepting all new application for business and personal lines of property and casualty insurance today for California.

Now, see. See. You can't get insurance.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because -- now, they say, due to historic increases in construction, costs. Outpacing inflation.

Rapidly growing catastrophe exposure, and challenging reinsurance market, the change does not affect existing home insurance.

If you already have that. Just new. State Farm is one of California's biggest insurers. The biggest home insurer by premium volume.

They say, global warming. But what they're citing is wildfires. Mudslides.

STU: All from global warming.

GLENN: Yeah. All of it, from global warming.

So here's what's going to happen: State Farm pulls out and says, we're not going to insure anything anymore.

What happens?

The government will step in and say, well, we have to have insurance.

And so the United States government will step in, to insure all those houses that really shouldn't be there, California.

I mean, if you're worried about wildfires and mudslides. And the coastline. You should just pack up all those houses and go away.

You should go is someplace, like Puerto Rico.

No. I like Puerto Rico.

You should go someplace. Well, maybe you'll be happy in Canada. I usually like Canada.

But it's gone away. You'll be happy there. They're already putting people to sleep. No pills for grandma. Let's kill her. You will love Canada.

Now, let me take a one-minute break.

And come back, and tell you about Target.

Oh, I feel -- I feel so bad about what's happening to Target. Yeah. Their losses are starting to pile up.

People don't seem to be slowing down on this.

And you'll never guess who is involved in making sure that they're ESG compliant.

Yeah. You know what, it's almost the same group of people, that wanted those crazy, you know, transgender nuns.

At the baseball game. Maybe they were canceled. And they were like, whoa. Whoa. We didn't realize, our conscience.

We couldn't sleep at night, doing that. This wasn't because of pressure at all.

We want those lesbian trans nuns right here for baseball.

Because baseball apple pie, and transgenderism.

That's what we've always said.

Yeah, is it? Or was there a wee bit of pressure?

You don't know, that's not what God sounds like. Do you? Do you?

STU: I guess technically no.

GLENN: Might have been a big Pall Mall smoker in the day. You know what I mean?

Whoa, the '50s came around. I got kind of lost in that Camel cigarette thing.

Anyway, so there were bomb threats, apparently at Target. But there weren't bomb threats at Target. So everybody was freaking out. They -- this is what happens when you target LGBTQ people.

Except, it appears, it is from LGBTQ people.

But we found out, that they are not violent.

The extremist right is. But they didn't send it either.

It appears as though, this was Russian disinformation.

What?

Yes! We've tracked it down. The Russians are trying to make us hate each other.

You think so? You think so? Now, the only problem is, I have absolutely no trust in the FBI. FBI came out, we tracked you town. It was the Russians.

Was it? Weren't you guys tracking the Russians with Donald Trump?

Yeah. But that was -- that was different. You really did do that with a prostitute at a hotel.

Oh, did he? So here's some good news. Target has lost about $10 billion. Stock keeps going down. People are leaving. Now, we just found out, that they are big with educational people, special interest groups.

Not necessarily. Not necessarily associated with the teacher's unions.

But they are with GLSEN. G-L-S-E-N, which is a bunch of other people.

That a lot of them are in the LGBTQI+. Don't know what the S is. But anyway, it's a great network.

And they have been working with the schools, to make sure that teachers keep all of the information about your children, transitioning, there in the school.

No. No, we're not going to tell any parents. The great thing is, if you didn't think Target was a problem before, I just want you to know, that they donated at least $2.1 million to GLSEN. So they could, you know, teach the districts and the students how to hide their transgenderism, and their transitions from their parents.

And I think that is, yeah!

Yeah. So if you just wanted a little extra, you know, understanding of why maybe you shouldn't be pushing what I believe are the greatest shopping carts in America.

Why you should not be pushing those shopping carts. Uh-huh.

How about that one? I mean, you know, unless you don't have a problem with Target helping people in school, keep information about your children from you.

Pride Month may be used to INVESTIGATE churches in America?

Beware of POLITICAL WARFARE used by the far-left during this year’s Pride Month, warns James Lindsay, Founder and President of New Discourses. In this clip, Lindsay outlines two, possible ways the LGBTQ movement — especially in June — may be used as a method to target Christians in America…possibly even resulting in government investigations of churches throughout the nation. It’s all about labeling conservatives as dangerous 'Christian nationalists,' he explains, and Pride Month may give the left the perfect opportunity to do so. He explains it all in this clip…

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GLENN: So James Lindsey is with us. And he's hacking everybody off online.

Because I'm not sure what he is trying to warn against.

Welcome to the program, James.

JAMES: Hey, Glenn. Always good to talk to you.

GLENN: Good to talk you to.

He's the author of, by the way, of the Marxification of Education and New Discourses, founder and president.

He says, political warfare is coming, during Pride Month.

And I fear your -- your right, and I also fear that you're right about the warning to Christians.

So James, where do you want to start?

JAMES: I think maybe we'll start kind of big picture. I think we will see what political warfare is, first of all. Is when I use, basically intelligence kind of tactics against a population, to get them to act and behave in certain ways.

That you can then take advantage of for political purposes, to drive an agenda. To get the DOJ to crack down on it, whatever.

So now we know what that is. I think we will teach him tact, through Pride. Using LGBTQ, as they call it, issues as the wedge.

One of those will be to get our corporations that skew as American brands.

Ford. Target. Bud Light. You know, Americana brands to take this up, full blast.

So the conservatives will turn around. And boycott, and Target these corporations, as we should.

And almost as we must.

So we cut off ourselves, at our own knees. And Marxists will like nothing better.

Secondly, they will attack religious icons. They will go after children. We have seen this with the sisters of perpetual indulgence, or whatever they call themselves in Los Angeles.

Going after very religious offensive behaviors. And the goal will be to -- they know that conservatives, and particularly a lot of conservative Christians are getting angry.

That they're if we go to desperate.

It's almost like they've woke up a dragon. And they will feed the dragon. And get them to do something stupid, that will then get turned around and used against them.

Whether it's investigate churches. Shut down churches. Come down on conservative Christianity. Just from a political perspective.

So that they're the domestic terrorist hotbeds of the country.

And then come around, in a few months. And offer some new fake state approved Christian churches. That will fill in, the space that gets left by bulldozing what exists now.

GLENN: So you really think it will go -- I mean, I don't know why I am surprised at this.

But, I mean, that is a huge statement to make. That they will shut down our churches?

THOMAS: Well, you know, the federal government can only do so much with that.

But they can start doing investigations.

They can start digging in. I wouldn't be surprised at all, if there's a large Christian reaction that's not strategic, that's not thoughtful. I'm asking nobody, by the way, to sit on their hands and knees. That this is a common conception. What I'm saying.

But if it's not strategic, if we're not thinking intelligently about how we approach this, there are already large dossiers, written for the federal government. Saying that the cause of January 6th. Which, of course, is their favorite thing to go to.

Was, in fact, not even MAGA or Trump. Believe it -- how crazy is it, that they say it's something other than Trump?

It's Christian nationalism. Which is a rising domestic terror threat.

So if they can use some excuse to label churches, as breeding grounds for domestic terrorism. You can bet the Department of Homeland Security.

The Department of Justice. And maybe the IRS will be cracking down and spying on churches.

You can bet they'll try to push something like a second Patriot Act, that allows them to spy on churches. And do whatever else they have to do. In order to try to limit that alleged threat of domestic terrorism.

This is well-linked already in the federal government. This isn't just some media narrative. Although, that's happening too. To give it legs in the population.

This is something that they will get the public to demand. That they will say, white supremacy, tied to Christian nationalism. White Christian nationalism is the biggest threat. It's a very serious concern.

And they will use the unbelievable provocations, that they will put forth in the next month or two, for pride. To trigger Christians, into giving them the reaction they need. To justify the political moves. Against both Christians and conservatives. But also all Americans.

GLENN: So in one survey, conducted between 2007 and 2017.

52 percent, is this the claim, support some form of Christian nationalism.

Later study, Brookings Institute. Public religion research institute.

Says, only 29 percent of Americans fall somewhere around the Christian nationalist spectrum. Over half Republicans reportedly show some degree of support.

With 21 percent counting as adherents. And 33 percent as sympathizers. What exactly is a Christian nationalist.

JAMES: You know, Glenn, I wish I could tell you.

It's a very wide spectrum of beliefs. Things that are innocuous. We will have a broad cultural revival. And bring Christian values back to the public square. Meaning the level of individuals coming back to God. Coming back to the church.

Getting their Christian principles right. And living them, all the way to the other side. Where we're talking about. In say, the book that is titled, the case for Christian nationalism by Steven Wolf.

A Christian prince in the land, as the highest official, not just in the United States. But in the world.

And so this Christian prince is, of course, a Protestant recreation of the pope. And this person, is supposed to become the ultimate civil magistrate, right out of kind of old philosophy. I know we talk old philosophy sometimes, Glenn. Right out of Hegel's philosophy. Where we will have this new kind of brilliant magistrate leader. Who will have the correct ideals and principles.

And lead the country. So it's a huge spectrum of that. Anything in between.

And they're playing in a sense, both sides against the middle.

By putting out a wide spectrum of different views. So if one is unpalatable, and one too soft. They can point to the others. And bounce around the definitions.

And get people, especially Christians, to dip into their values. And say, well, you know what, I'm a Christian, and I believe in this country. So I actually align with something in this.

And I'll use the label. Which like I said, I believe is actually a gigantic federal government trap, being set for Christians, to step right into and lose their liberties.

GLENN: So let me just give you some headlines.

Politico. Most Republicans support declaring the United States, a Christian nation.

This is the Washington Post. Americans are growing more accepting of Christian nationalism.

NPR. More than half of Republicans, support Christian nationalism.

Well, I will tell you, that they will put me, and my collection of historic items, into Christian nationalism.

Because I do believe the Founding Fathers, founded this.

With -- through their help. Or through their belief. And the help of God.

And we are a Judeo Christian nation.

That's where we get most of our laws. And the ideas. They came from the pulpit.

That doesn't mean we hate other religions. Or anything else.

It just means, that's the truth of our -- of our founding.

So that makes me a Christian nationalist, I'm sure. According to them.

Right?

JAMES: Absolutely, Glenn. Absolutely. You know how the left works.

They work through insinuation, association, and fallacious claims.

So that they can take the softest possible expression. Something like what you just gave, that might convince somebody as Christian nationals.

And then tie it to the most extreme behaviors. This is exactly what the dossier, that was presented to the House, unselected.

As we might put President Trump on it. House Unselect Committee about January 6th.

It's a 56-page document. Written by a layer, named Andrew Seidel.

And he goes as far on the one hand, as giving very extreme examples.

And tying it to neoconfederacy, and people carrying Confederate flags to the Capitol. And on the other hand, he says, here's proof of Christian Nationals. It will be widespread. And it might be as something as innocuous as quoting someone giving a prayer.

That something like Lord God, bless this nation. In Jesus' name we pray.

Now all of a sudden, because you're saying, bless this nation. That counts.

So your collection, certainly.

Your views, certainly, are going to get roped into this.

In fact, what you'll find, is most of the conservative side of the aisle, will get roped into this.

I, according to my Wikipedia, I'm not even a Christian. I work with a Christian nationalist.

So I'm Christian nationalist adjacent.

But it turns out that the guy that I work with. His name is Michael Fallon. You know him.

Is not even a Christian nationalist. And is on the front line fighting against this movement and this trap with me. So the facts, will not matter to the left, is what I'm saying. They will rope people in. They'll use insinuation. Association. To rope people in. And to discredit them.

To make them the new deplorables. The new, whatever it can't be listened to. And to justify a large public scare campaign.

To get Democrats. To pressure democratic politicians to push a second Patriot Act. Investigate churches. To demand a mandate to figure out where this domestic extremism is allegedly coming from outside our churches.

GLENN: So here is something from the Joint Committee report on January 6th. That white Christian nationalists were more likely to eschew safety measures and prioritize the economy and liberty, over the vulnerable.

They're also more likely to hold anti-vaccine attitudes, oppose any federal gun control restrictions. Due to the belief, that the Second Amendment, was divinely inspired.

They're more likely to fear immigrants. And endorse anti-immigrant policies, and they oppose same-sex marriage. And transgender rights.

Holy cow.

JAMES: I'm telling you, Glenn. This is what Mao Zedong did in China. Not specifically with Christians. Although, that's relevant too.

What he did very successfully, he wrapped up this campaign, he called unity criticism. Unity. He said, we'll have unity on a new basis in China.

And he criticized viciously. Unfairly. Just like you just read. Anybody who might be able to be painted. Not even somebody who is.

But somebody who can be painted as an impediment as a new unity under it.

Then everybody that is still allowed to have a voice, a vote, et cetera, when everybody agrees. Everybody who counts, agrees. Now they'll have unity under a new basis. We see this with a push for belonging.

You see this with the pushes for inclusivity. You see this right here, with what you just said. Every bad thing that you can think of, gets tied to this label of Christian nationalism. And sadly, if they turn to some of these harder core guys, that are both talking online. And they're writing books. And they're -- it's ample evidence of people saying that they want to overturn the Constitution. They want to undo the 14th Amendment. They don't believe in the equal-protection clause. They want to get rid of the 19th amendment. They want to get rid of free speech entirely, and forced belief. They have ample evidence. This is Steven Wolf who wrote this book. Has a podcast out there, that I have seen multiple times. Because people send it to me frequently. Where he says, atheism will be stamped out in America.

What about Judaism? What about Mormonism? What about Buddhism?

GLENN: Correct. See, that is not American.

That's the deal. Christian nationalism. If that describes him, then he's neither Christian, nor American.

Because both of those go against Christianity, and the American justice for all. Freedom for all. All men are created equal.

You can follow the -- the dictate of your conscience.

Those things, they're in direct opposition to what -- what most people, who would be labeled a Christian nationalist would agree with.

I don't agree with anything that he just said.

JAMES: Right. And like I just said, is this probably a minority of the people that are a part of the movement. But the left doesn't need most people to believe the crazy stuff.

They need one person. That's it.

They have plenty now.

And it's not even, by the way, this isn't American. If I might be so bold. It's not even Christian.

The idea, if I understand Christianity correctly.

Is that Jesus came. Jesus offered his message. It's about, you come to me, if you choose, on your own volition.

This isn't about go out, force people to convert, or stamp out this or that belief, or whatever else.

And what's happening is, people are justifiably, and rightly frustrated.

They are demoralized. They are afraid for their country, and they are starting to get desperate.

They are saying, it's too late. The Constitution is already dead. The law is already captured. We don't have any other options.

And I'm not --

GLENN: You're not a Christian. Because everything, but God. Everything, but God.

Have faith. Raising someone from the dead, a little more difficult, than bringing America back to its sane place.

Not even its world standing.

Just where sanity and reason are once again followed.

That's not a big magic trick for God to do.

Raising dead. That's kind of a big thing.

What do you say, we stop saying, we're out of time. There's no hope. And start aligning yourself with the actual principles of Christ and Christianity.

JAMES: You know, I ask these fellows all the time. These Christian guys. I say why do you doubt God's timing? If you have faith, why do you doubt God's timing? The American people are waking up to this. They're waking up to this now. People have spoken about it for 30 years.

Some longer.

There are books from the early 1980s, talking about this, this march through our institutions. And people couldn't hear it or see it. But now people are waking up fast.

They're understanding the ESG is kind of at the heart of something that is going on. They understand that social, emotional learning is the heart of the brainwashing in our schools.

We're learning the targets. We're learning what's going on. We're learning it very quickly.

And we are actually, as you mentioned with the boycotts. We are willing to stand up and take a stand. Maybe we should trust in the timing of this. Because it's meant to be this way. Maybe that's the case.

Chip Roy SLAMS Republicans’ "TERRIBLE" debt ceiling deal

If the currently proposed debt ceiling deal with Democrats moves forward, will Americans ever trust the Republican Party again? Possibly not, but thankfully there ARE several GOP members standing strong against Speaker McCarthy’s deal. One of those taking a stand against it, Rep, Chip Roy, joins Glenn to explain just how ‘terrible’ this deal truly is: ‘They abandoned us. They failed. They cut a bad deal.’ But it hasn’t been passed yet. So, Rep. Roy explains how YOU can help stop this bill…

Transcript

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GLENN: I will get right to Chip Roy. Because he's on a tight schedule here. So let's go to Chip now. Hello, Chip, how are you?

CHIP: Glenn, I'm doing great. Great to be on. And yeah, I'm on a tight schedule, because we got to go fight, try to stop this thing. But happy to be on the show.

GLENN: Yeah, so I really think that Speaker McCarthy has just given the nomination to Donald Trump. For any of these weasels who are like, I don't want Donald Trump. He's an extremist. You just gave him the nomination, in my opinion.

Not that Florida, Ron DeSantis, is going to agree with this deal. But no one will trust the Republicans after this. We gave you the benefit of the doubt, McCArthy. And this is what you return. It's what, 4 trillion, or is it 6 trillion, that they can raise the debt ceiling up to in the next couple of years .

CHIP: Well, we should take it piece by piece. You're right that this is a, quote, unquote, deal.

For your listeners out there, who are smarter than the average listener, what we get is a date certain for a debt ceiling increase. January 1st, 2025. There is no actual dollar amount. So what that means is, you essentially have an uncapped increase in the debt ceiling to a date certain. That date certain happens to fall in the middle of a lame duck Congress, by the way. Right? Or lame duck presidency, if we're lucky.

What do we get for that probably $4 trillion of additional debt or more, depending on what happens, with it being uncapped, and able to be potentially extended. We get at best, in my opinion. If I'm being as dangerous as I can be, to the people that negotiated this, is a two-year freeze in spending. A two-year freeze in spending, roughly. I go up a little. Might be down a little. But basically a freeze, truly.

And that's only for two years of actual caps. And for that, you know, you will see a slight bending of the post-COVID curve.

Now, what does that mean? You'll see the Wall Street Journal. And they're bending the curve.

This is historic! They're flattening it. Yeah, we heard all that same crap during COVID by the way. This is just taking the post-COVID spending, and freezing it for a couple of years.

While we continue to feed the best. The federal bureaucracy. And we do nothing.

Nothing to end the IRA, subsidized unreliable energy.

We have minor work requirements. We basically increased the age for SNAP from 49 to 54, and call that a win while not touching Medicaid. We have no REINS Act, pulling back the regulatory state.

We get something called Administration Pay Go, to offset the cost of regulation. But they can wave it. Which means it's nothing. We uphold the student loans. To make the decisions about the $500 billion of picking winners and losers in student loans. The IRS stays expanded, minus basically 1.4 billion.

You really can't make this up. And with all due respect to the leadership.

They say it's historic.

They miscalculated it. They flipped into their old ways. I will meet with them today.

I will keep fighting.

I am trying to make it clear, that I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt. That this wasn't sinister.

That they just slipped to their old ways. Well, we have to do a deal. Yeah. You can't do that.

The no votes are mounting. And if you're a listener out there. Make sure every one of your members of Congress knows, get your -- your voices need to be heard. Vote no on this.

We can still kill this, and start over and do the right thing.

GLENN: I mean, I would take this, if you have the REINS Act.

But you got nothing.

You've got nothing. You have no reins, if you will, on this horse that is just being whipped to death, in spending.

CHIP: Yeah. Correct. That is 100 percent correct. We got -- out of the deal that we did.

Limit, Save, Grow. For a $1.5 trillion debt ceiling into early next year. We got a lot of good things.

And, look, I'm not saying whether I think we could have gotten every single piece of that.

I understand we've got to negotiate. I think that was the right starting place. But you tell me, you are going to jack this out two years, to almost $4 trillion, and you will get literally, not one actual full thing on the list of stuff we put, in the Limit, Save, Grow Act. Not one thing. Everything was like some fractional piece of something on the list. So they could say they did something. Right? 1.4 billion off of the 80 billion of the IRS. And then say, see, we did something for the IRS. No, you have $78.6 billion of expanded IRS that plays over ten years.

And you're trying to sell that to me, as a victory? That's just not correct.

This is old swamp thinking. This is a course correction.

GLENN: You know what, let's just -- let's just cut the crap.

Old swamp thinking. This -- nothing is changing with the Republican Party. Because the leadership, they're all swamp monsters. They're all swamp monsters.

Until those swamp monsters are put back out to pasture. You're not going to have anything changed. You're not.

You will have a lot of good Republicans like you, that have come up. And they actually mean what they say. And say what they mean.

But until -- until those swamp monsters are taken out, and, you know, let them go to their nursing homes. Nothing is going to change.

I don't know why we should give them the benefit of the doubt, that oh, you know. This is -- we made a mistake?

What?

You had everything going for you.

Everything!

Now -- now, what's going to happen?

The president made a deal. He compromised now the Republicans are -- it's just these extremists holding hostage.

The Republican Party. It's the same thing over again!

CHIP: Yes. Glenn, look, I agree with every word of it. Just, let's make sure I'm being very clear over here.

I personally think this was a complete and total sellout of everything that we accomplished in January, everything we did in the first Limit, Save, Grow Act, and everything we accomplished with HR2. I think it is -- I think it is a betrayal of the power sharing arrangement we put in place.

That would protect the Republican Party, to make sure we could advance the ball forward.

We are not blind to the fact that we have to figure out how to get 218 votes. We understand that's hard.

We had a process, that was working.

That process was completely abandoned last week. The deal was cut.

And that was a betrayal of the agreement, that we had reached, in order to create something, that we thought would work. That's what I'm getting at. I will try to fix that today. If I cannot, in the Rules Committee, when I go fight this in the Rules Committee. If I can't kill it. If we can't kill it on the floor tomorrow.

Then we will have to regroup and figure out the whole leadership arrangement again.

GLENN: I was going to say, you got it.

McCarthy, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

I wasn't for him. I thought he was a swamp monster. And just last week, I thought, you know what, I'll give him credit.

He's playing this very well.

Now, he's just betrayed.

Again, I give the benefit of the doubt, to the Republican. And they just sheave me in the chest.

CHIP: So I want to be as clear as I can be. This is not the end of this. This is the process that we started in January. We showed that you can govern conservatively and win.

We did it. We were doing it. They abandoned it. It is our job now to course correct.

Again, not to quote Rumsfeld.

But you go to war with the army you have got.

Look, the bottom line is, we were winning. And we were demonstrating how to govern conservatively. So we will do that today. We will have a press conference in 45 minutes.

The 20 are strong. There are others that are with us.

We are going to make our message be loud and clear. I will make my message loud and clear in the Rules Committee, and then we will keep moving forward.

Trying to earn votes, and try to build out where we need to head. To do exactly what you just said. To make sure the American people are inspired.

What I was trying to tell the people here, that if we lose. And we lose the votes, because we get rolled. They get these addendums and the squishes in our conference, that roll us.

Don't go and roll -- you know, roll, and cut a deal. And then go try to sell me, that it's not, you know, selling me out.

Because that's what they're doing. They're trying to snow me. They're trying to snow the American people. And say, oh, this is a great deal.

It is not.

The chart that I put out on my Twitter account. Social media. Where I make very clear. The side-by-side comparison of where we were. And where we ended up.

And it's not even close.

GLENN: No.

I know you have to run. So what do you want the American people to do?

Anybody that still -- honestly, I don't know how many times, you guys can say, call your Congressman. Because, I mean, really?

CHIP: Well, let me back up and just say, for five months, we actually were winning.

HR2 wasn't backed in a historic position for Republicans to take on the board. The first Limit, Save, Grow Act. That was a pretty historic bill.

So now, they abandoned us. They failed. They cut a bad deal.

It hasn't been passed yet.

Just get involved in the next 48 hours.

Make sure every Republican knows, is this a bad deal.

Make your voice heard loudly. Do it on social media. Do it to their offices.

We will fight on here. Then we will regroup. And figure out what the next step is. To hold the line, and make sure we're going to get our leadership arrangement, for collecting conservative principles again.

I promise, we will keep fighting.

The 20 aren't flinching, Glenn. We are just starting.

GLENN: Okay. Good.

Would love to have you. And anyone else in that 20, that would like to come in and talk tomorrow about the progress. Because we have 48 hours. I would love to have you back on tomorrow, Chip. And just give us an update. Thank you.

CHIP: Okay. Happy to do it. Either I will do it, or somebody else.

GLENN: Thank you so much. Buh-bye. That is the problem. We do have people in there that are really fighting hard.

For the first time, I think we have 20 people that will stand, but it's all these mamby, pamby, wishy-washy.

Look what the left has done to the country!

Why?

Because they will sell out every principle they have. They don't care who they stand with.

And they're standing with Marxists.

Well, I think we should give them more money. I don't want to be an extremist.

You're being an extremist.

You're standing for the Constitution!

What is wrong with the American people?

When did the Constitution -- the longest running Constitution, in all of the history of man. The average Constitution lasts 17 years!

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