RADIOJuly 05, 2022

Yes, it IS possible for Americans to unite. Here’s how.

Each day it seems Americans become more and more divided along political party lines. But there IS still a way for Americans to unite. Riaz Patel, TV producer and founder of ‘ConnectEffect,’ tells Glenn it’s all about disregarding the ‘screen world’ and instead listening and learning from other humans’ first-hand experiences. It’s important to ‘reset humanity’ and fight the agenda being forced onto us all through our phones. Patel tells Glenn about his new project which does just that and about the amazing progress he’s witnessed thus far…

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GLENN: I want to welcome back a very good friend of the program. Somebody, if you're a long-time listener of this program. Somebody you might remember Riaz Patel. He's now the founder of Connect Effect. He is a TV producer. Two-time Emmy nominee. Couldn't get it done, huh?

RIAZ: Both times. And she wasn't even there.

GLENN: But he's also a guy that I think we met in 2015, or 2016?

RIAZ: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And there was shooting. You're a Muslim. You're a gay man. And there was a shooting, and you were -- you know, the media was telling you, this is really. This is what's happening. And then Trump came along. And you were like, okay. I got to know what's really going on. And you went up to Alaska. And said, I just want to meet these people. Because I can't live in a world, if that's what I'm really surrounded by. And you found out, that's not.

RIAZ: Not remotely. Not remotely. The 50 percent of the population is not the cliché that I was led to believe. They're actually human beings.

GLENN: And we had such a great time getting together. I still follow you on Instagram. We chat from time to time.

But the -- the thing that always struck me was how honest you always were. You were really looking for information. You weren't trying to prove anything. You just wanted to know what the truth was.

And how different our understanding of the news was, because you lived in your world.

RIAZ: Yes.

GLENN: And I lived in my world. And I remember putting things up in the chalkboard. And saying, none of those things happened.

RIAZ: At all.

GLENN: Big stories to conservatives. It was weird.

RIAZ: And it used to be the strangest thing, when I would come here to visit you, that I would get on the plane, and leave the LA feeds, and arrive here, completely different news. Completely different stories, like this is insane. Two different worlds.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. So you've been trying to bridge the gap.

RIAZ: Yeah.

GLENN: For a long time. And we talked about shows, where you could actually talk. Things have only gotten worse.

RIAZ: Yes. Absolutely.

And I think that was the big problem, was the screen world, and I called the screen world. All the edits that magically appear for us on our phone is the screen world, is not the real world. It's a very particularly point of view, and very highly edited. And to me, for seven years, what is the truth? And every time I would bring people together, seven people, ten people. Fifty people. In Alaska, Dallas, New York. They were never the clichés that I was led to believe.

And I constantly was wondering, how do they connect, and why wouldn't they connect?

And really, it came down to the power of the screen world is now the way we see the world.

People can be standing in front of us, and we cannot see them, or their humanity, because we see them through the edits that we think we know about them.

GLENN: It's really terrifying.

Because we were talking off the air. Children suicide and depression is off the charts.

RIAZ: Unbelievable.

GLENN: Unbelievable. And I think it's because of this.

There's nothing real. You don't really know people. And covid only made it worse. No real connections going on.

RIAZ: And that's the thing. It's so funny.

Everyone seems to be lacking true authentic connection, and the thing that I realized over seven years, is that true connection is not remotely information-based. Even if we're all living in an information age. That the words we exchange are 7 percent of communication. It's the body language. It's the tone. It's all of those things that create humanity. None of those you get from a screen. You just get the words, which sequentially posting at each other gets us absolutely nowhere fast.

And so I kept trying to think, what is a way to do this? A hard reset. Actually leave people in a room, so that they can see each other. And not see the edits that they think they know about each other. And that took seven years of testing and testing and testing.

GLENN: So how are you going to do this?

RIAZ: So it's called Connect Effect. And what it is -- it's an in-person -- it's an entertainment experience. And it's designed that way, because I reached out to a policy institute, and they said, everything we're doing about bridging and facilitating conversations, is not working. People just show up with more information, and they just keep exchanging it, and no one actually listens. And no one actually learns and is impacted. So how can I get people in a physical room? And we do 50 to 100 people at a time. To really see each other. The people in the room. The real world. And not the screen world. Not see each other through the screen world. It's a hard reset of their humanity.

GLENN: So how do you do that?

Because I would think that you would -- depending on where you are, you would have a lot of conservatives show up. And some very timid liberals. Or a lot of liberals show up. And their timid conservatives.

And you would fight an agenda. You know what I mean?

So how do you -- how do you -- how are you getting that?

RIAZ: The thinking is, the actual Connect Effect, what it is, is this: When you connect with someone in a meaningful, in-person way, in person, human to human, you'll talk, openly and honestly. It's how we met.

When we sat down opposite each other in 2016 and I came with my information, we just looked at each other, and we were like, oh, you're just a human being wants to know.

Once you have that connection, you'll talk openly and honestly. When you talk openly and honestly, you will understand. And that understanding deepens the connection.

That's the connective act. Now people are talking without the connection, and it's just this exchange of information. So they don't talk first.
They sit back. And from the moment the doors open, there's music. There's images on the screen. Two sides of stories, that people have never seen.

Whether it's edits I've seen in the news. Oh, yeah. That's what CNN ran. That's what Fox did side by side. And it constantly says, which edit do you see? Which edit do you not see?

And we're constantly running through history. Here's an edit you do know. And then it's before we even start the program, they're seeing, you're only -- that they're only seeing one edit.

GLENN: And so I would imagine, it's very important to let the audience know, that you're not trying to change them politically.

ROB: Not at all.

GLENN: You're just trying to say, you don't know the whole story, on both sides.

RIAZ: You don't know the whole story. And the whole story doesn't necessarily even matter when you are trying to fix things in your world. You and I did a podcast special a while ago, where we brought seven Americans together to talk about guns.

And --

GLENN: It was so great.

RIAZ: And it just spiraled and spiraled, until the NRA firearms instructor and the Moms Demand Action woman spent time together, made a joke, and suddenly all the defenses were gone. Because they had connected. And they talked openly. And realized they were 90 percent there. When they were all in the room, guarded with their information.

GLENN: Before we started it, we were both concerned, this could be a nightmare.

RIAZ: Absolutely.

GLENN: And by the end, I think the Marxist professor was like, this is great.

RIAZ: Yeah. Yeah. Because they stop seeing each other through screens. And the screens come at each other, all day every day.

And the way the screens work is for attention extraction is what they call it at Google. That's all they're doing. And so whatever you like, they'll send you more of it. If you're angry about this, they'll send you more.

Because the real facts are that anger makes money. The easiest shift to create in the human being is anger. What travels faster than any virus? Fear.

And so if the screens are constantly making you feel the world is burning constantly, then you're never going to be able to connect. But they make cha-ching. Cha-ching, cha-ching. More money the more you're watching.

And so we hard reset, the shared humanity of people in the room.

And it's very interesting, because at some time they start realizing, wait. I was going to say that. But I only know that from a screen. So we tell people, talk about what you know. Did you work on the front line of covid? Great. Tell us about that.

If you didn't, it's your time to sit back and listen. Because you received a screen edit that was designed to make you upset and angry. To look at more. To look at more. To look at more ads. And so I'm trying to get people -- the amazing thing, when people meet in the real world, they're constantly engaging people from what they know from the screen, which has little to no relevance to the person they're talking to.

GLENN: You -- the first one is happening, where? In Orange County?

RIAZ: Orange County, this Saturday. April 30th. I'm working with an organization called Civic Genius.

And I really was -- I was relentless when I was finding a partner that they didn't have a political affiliation. Because I cannot tell someone what the way they should think. I don't live their lives thousands and thousands of days as them.

GLENN: It's actually not the -- I shouldn't say that.

The problem is, people who are trying to tell people what to think.

RIAZ: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Not how to think. What to think. You will believe this. I don't care what side it's on. You believe this, and there's no compromise.

RIAZ: You must believe this. Or you're bad.

GLENN: Bad. That's what's killing us. That's what's killing us.

RIAZ: When you and I met years ago, I came in with this perception of what I thought you were. When I sat, the humanity kicked in, and we were able to talk. All I want, the whole point of this is I just want people fighting in their families. Fighting in their communities. If you can't sit down with the people in your community, to solve your problems. No one wins.

GLENN: So what age-group?

RIAZ: This is mostly 18 and over. But 18 to 80. It can be anyone.

GLENN: Okay. And when you go, do you have to participate, or can you just watch?

RIAZ: You can. So everyone sits, and everything is designed, the way the seats are set up. The way the screen works. It's all highly, highly produced. So everyone sits in this very large -- so there's no hiding in the back.

GLENN: Like an AA meeting.

RIAZ: It's like -- you can't go anywhere. You must stay.

But not everyone speaks, and who speaks is random. It's actually done through a way, inside the pouches. Some people have a chip, and some people don't. And the people who have blue chips have to stand up, and then they have a conversation. It's a way --

GLENN: So you're not speaking to -- I mean, you are speaking in front of the whole group. But you're not speaking and having interaction with the whole group.

RIAZ: No.

GLENN: The whole group is kind of channeling it through different conversations.

RIAZ: Correct. Correct. And we say it's one story told between two worlds. One is the real world. All of us in the room. And the other is all the media we have on the screen. And so the screen plays a large part in it, with edits and media coming at the audience, showing them, well, what is true?

Because if this is true on the screen, it can't be true in the real world. We're constantly juxtaposing the two. And it really ends up being this mind-blowing hard reset.

GLENN: So are you going to have video there? Okay.

Can you return maybe, and show me some video. And give me the results of what this happened.

RIAZ: We can. We actually have two tests on the website. ConnectEffect.us, under testimonials. One, we took women. And we said, if women, once connected, could they solve each other's most deep, challenging questions? So we took these total strangers. Didn't know each other, connected them. And they're reading these unbelievable questions. Like, why am I single my whole life? Why would I draw men that would abuse me?

And the audience helps them find the answer. It's incredible.

GLENN: That's unbelievable.
RIAZ: Because all that happens is, we have a problem. We go to an expert. We have a problem, we go to an expert.

Diagnosis. Medicated. Sometimes we just need the opinions of other people, and social buffering. And that doesn't exist anymore.

So that was one test. The other was at a university. Because we have students at a university, afraid of each other, not just physically, but ideologically. And so we thought, could we take students, once connected after 60 minutes, would they be open to the other side's ideology, and you look at the video, they were. They saw the whole thing differently. And they realized that all these people in the real world, in the room, are not the enemies, that they perceive coming through the edits.

GLENN: So how do you get people to -- I mean, are you just traveling the country. Are you asking for places to host you?

RIAZ: We are.

We are looking for organizations, churches, synagogues, anywhere where people have stopped talking, which is pretty much everywhere.

GLENN: Everywhere.

RIAZ: We're looking. And it's not just led by me.

It's a system that's replicated and designed to be done by many people. The system is called epic.

Forbes described, it was a game changer, a few years ago.

It's a different way of approaching people, that you have to engage through equalization, that's the E.

If I don't look at you as an equal, what are we talking about?

Like, why am I talking to you, if I don't think you're an equal. And beyond that, the P is personalization. I don't care what you read. Because whatever you read, I've got -- you've got stats, I've got stats. You've got articles, I've got articles. Now we go nowhere. What do you know? What have you experienced of racism? What have you experienced of suffering? That's what I need to know, but if you keep bringing -- I kept bridging these conversations. And I had seven people in the room, and 480 opinions. And suddenly Nancy Pelosi was there. Mitch McConnell. And I said, why are they in the room? They certainly won't be helping you fix your problem in the school. Then it's personalization. Then information gathering. The thing I tell people, stop talking about what you know. We know what you know. Ask people, what do I not know?

GLENN: That is -- I think that is one of the real keys to -- if people say, I can't talk to them. Or I want to just -- I need to change their mind. If you're approaching a conversation that way, you are saying to don't, they don't have anything of value, to teach me.

RIAZ: Yes.

GLENN: And when you both exchange that, just the basic thing. And I don't mean stats. I mean you as a person. How do you get there?

As soon as you get there, things change.

RIAZ: I always ask people, why are we not cyclopses? Why do we have two eyes that do the exact same thing? Not even an inch and a half apart? Because that's the only way to see depth and perspective. So I tell people, look at the world, with your view. You need the other view to see the world in two dimensions. You have to know, what you don't know. Constantly coming to TheBlaze, and you and I would sit down, whether we were traveling on a project. And I would learn so much about the world, that I never knew. And vice-versa.

GLENN: Likewise. Likewise.

RIAZ: And it was the only way I saw things with depth, it was no longer a two-dimensional edit. In the screen world. It was three-dimensional in the real world.

GLENN: I was thinking about this a lot lately. We have to wrap up. The Scripture, there must be opposition in all things.

RIAZ: All things. There must be.

GLENN: We don't want to argue. And we have to agree to one side. No. There must be opposition.

RIAZ: Solutions, yes.

GLENN: And to see depth. Riaz. Thank you so much. You can find out more on this. At connecteffect.us. That's connecteffect.us.

Election 2024: How the Global Elite Control What You See, Think, and Feel | Ep 388

We’re now less than two weeks away from a monumental election, and the media, Big Tech, and global elites — including British Labour Party members — are all working in overdrive to get Kamala Harris elected. This “propaganda industrial complex” is laying the groundwork for post-election censorship, but Glenn exposed it all in his new book, “Propaganda Wars.” In this episode of "Glenn TV," he reviews some of the highlights: Why are elites so obsessed with censorship? How far will they go to ensure that Donald Trump doesn’t win in November? And how can the average American learn to cut through the propaganda and find the TRUTH? Glenn also reviews some of the latest attacks on free speech, including the British-based Center for Countering Digital Hate’s targeting of X and Elon Musk and Kamala Harris’ terrifying use of the vice presidential office to compare Trump to Hitler. Plus, the co-author of “Propaganda Wars,” Justin Haskins, joins to ask a disturbing question: Will this election’s “October surprise” be a deepfake?

Exclusive: Former UK PM SLAMS Labour Party for possible US election interference

Around 100 staffers for the United Kingdom’s Labour Party are reportedly campaigning for Kamala Harris in America. Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss joins The Glenn Beck Program with her reaction: "Who's paying for their airfare? For their accommodation? Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?" Because while their actions could be legal, this could become a case of foreign election interference, depending on the money trail. Plus, Truss comments on the leaked plans from the Center for Countering Digital Hate (which has ties to the current Prime Minister and the Kamala Harris campaign) to "kill Musk's Twitter": “It's why we need X. I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.”

Transcript

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GLENN: The former Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Elizabeth. Or Liz Truss. Welcome, Liz. How are you?

LIZ: I'm very well. Great to be on the show, Glenn.

GLENN: Thank you. So I'm sorry. I just don't know.

Do we still call you Prime Minister?

GLENN: Not in person.

GLENN: Okay. Not in person.

So, you know -- I don't know if you remember this. But we met earlier this year.

And we exchanged a few words. But in listening to you speak and everything else, I thought, I -- this problem is bigger than any of us thought it was.

And it is deep, deep, deep in the structures of not only our country. But England, as well.

They're going in a different direction, than what they're telling people.

Is that. Did I read you right?

LIZ: That is absolutely right. It was only -- I've been a government minister for ten years. And it was only when I got into 10 Downing Street, that I understood the full-scale of what we were up against.

Because it isn't just the political parties.

It's not just the civil service.

The left, has successfully captured the institutions, in Britain.

And it is going to be a very, very big struggle.

To be able to change things here.

And, you know, we now have an even worse situation.

We have a socialist government.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: They're trying to cancel free speech. They are trashing the British economy. People are leaving Britain. Millionaires are leaving Britain, at a faster rate than any other country in the world, at the moment.

GLENN: Jeez.

LIZ: So we're in a very, very difficult situation. And the -- the Labor Party, again, for free speech will be aware that they have attacked X. They have attacked Elon Musk repeatedly.

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

LIZ: Because that is one of the few avenues where people are really hearing the truth and what is happening.

GLENN: So there is a story that was just released yesterday. Internal documents from the Center for Countering Digital Hate, whose founder is a British political operative, Morgan McSweeney, now advising the Kamala Harris campaign.

The internal plans show the group, in writing, plans to, quote, kill musk's Twitter, while strengthen as he does its ties with Biden/Harris administration and the Democrats, like Senator Amy Klobuchar, who has introduced multiple bills to regulate online misinformation.

So it is showing that something that is in your country. Started in your country.

Partly funded by us. And now brought into our administration.

Is actively working with our administration. And I would assume, in some ways, your administration.

Not yours. But, you know, the -- the administration of Great Britain. To silence speech.

We're -- our governments are in cahoots, doing really bad things. To the public.

Are they not?

LIZ: And just to be clear, Morgan McSweeney is now the chief of staff to the Prime Minister. So this man is incredibly senior within the party's administration. And there have been numerous public attacks on X, by the Prime Minister.

Now, I don't believe that he will succeed if he takes on Elon Musk.

But the mentality, isn't to have an honest discussion about what's happening in Britain.

The mentality is to try and quash any dissent, and stop people talking about the very real issues that are affecting us.

For example, the sheer scale of illegal immigration, into this country.

So we have a very worried government.

And I would be following the US elections. And comments by Hillary Clinton, comments by members of the Democrat campaign.

And it seems to be the same thing, going on. Not only are they putting in place, these disastrous policies, they're also trying to stop anybody from talking about them.

GLENN: I've been talking about this for a while. I've been trying to get people to understand. This is not about left versus right.

Democrats versus Republicans.

This is about elites. And against the people.

And the people know they're being lied to.

How can there be a problem throughout the entire West, of illegal immigration.

At the scale we've never seen ever before, in the history of the modern world. Paragraph and our press, in every single country, is treating it, exactly the same.

As are the administrations.

That doesn't -- that doesn't compute, it doesn't work out, mathematically, to be a coincidence.

JUSTIN: And you're right about the public.

The public understands there is a problem. They really are fed up with the mainstream media in Britain.

The not telling the truth about what's happening, and presenting things in a way that is very far from their real experiences. You started off, Glenn, by saying England is doing this to the US system. It's not England. The English people.

The British people are --

GLENN: Are with us.

LIZ: Very much concerned about illegal immigration.

GLENN: Yes, I know.

LIZ: It's the -- it's the Labor Party. It's the media elites. It's the corporatists, and it's the civil service and the bureaucracy, which does not want to learn.

GLENN: So how much of a role did this play in the destruction of Donald Trump and you?

LIZ: What happened to me was the Bank of England, were -- and they've admitted this since. Were responsible for the market turmoil that took place in October 2022.

But the British media, adopted the narrative that it was my fault.

So they took the narrative, from the Labor Party, from the Bank of England.

And they simply repeated it. And they repeated it to this day.

Even though the Bank of England put out an official report. Saying two-thirds of it was their fault.

Ask what I think is changed about the media.

It's no longer a neutral arbiter. It is pushing a particular narrative. And a particular agenda.

And I see the same about Donald Trump.

If you look at what CNN puts out, they are not interested, in what the truth of the situation is.

You know, even the reporting of, you know, President Trump's visit to McDonald's.

I mean, it just was some ludicrous. Ludicrous media commentary on that.

And I think it is a massive problem.

And it's why we need very strong independent media here in Britain.

It's why we need X.

I mean, Elon Musk is effectively the leader of the opposition now in Britain.

That is the situation we're in.

GLENN: Yeah. He is in Brazil.

He is really all over the world.

He is -- and I don't think he could do it, if he wasn't the richest man in the world.

But he is truly the last gatekeeper. If he goes down, there is -- there is no gatekeeper, in power, currently today, that will keep the gate of freedom of speech, alive.

That's a little terrifying.

LIZ: That's right. And in the United States, you have the First Amendment. We don't have that in Britain.

GLENN: I know.

LIZ: We're in a worst position for the protection of freedom of speech.

And we have seen people very recently jailed, for things that they have put on social media.

GLENN: Yeah. They've gotten.

LIZ: These may not be wise things that are put on social media, but there are other people who are being let out of jail who have committed --

GLENN: I know. I saw a story from England that was a pedophile, got less time than somebody who said something stupid on social media.

That person, they threw the key away. But person who was a pedophile, didn't have the same kind of sentence at all. That's madness!

LIZ: It is madness. What has happened is that our judiciary is no longer accountable. It's no longer accountable the way it was.

And this goes right back to the 2000s.

And it was the government that took away the accountability from our judiciary. And they outsourced so many decisions that used to be made by politicians.

Have now been out sourced to the bureaucracy.

And they are not accountable to anyone.

Not accountable to anyone.

GLENN: Yeah. Exactly what he did here.

So are you optimistic that because this is such an octopus. That, quite honestly, has the -- the intellectual power of the world. At the universities.

Has the money of the corporations. The power of the state. The power of the media.

This is going to be really hard to kill. This is a hydra. Are you -- are you optimistic that the people can win all around the world?

LIZ: The number one thing is the people are on our side. And they are becoming increasingly frustrated. And you saw that in Britain, of the last election, where it was the lowest proportion of the electorate voted for the two main parties because they are so frustrated.

That whoever they vote for, into office, they get the same policies. Because the bureaucrats are still there. So the people are on our side.

And that is our big strength.

It's going to be very important that Donald Trump wins the election, in the United States.

I hear good things, Glenn.

You're closer to the ground than me.

But this is vital.

And it isn't just vital to America. It's vital to the west overall. Because I can imagine what a Kamala Harris presidency will do for things like freedom of speech.

And it is not pretty.

GLENN: Especially in collusion with Starmer in England.

Great Britain. That's terrifying.

JUSTIN: That's right!

GLENN: Can I ask you, the Labor Party is doing something that is apparently legal here in the United States, as long as there's no money changing hands.

I would like to see anybody from Great Britain come and knock on doors in Texas.

They wouldn't really be welcome.

But you have 100 people from the labor party.

Socialist Party now. Coming over to the United States, and helping Kamala Harris, not only through advising. But actually, on the street, working for her campaign.

I've never seen that before. Have you?

LIZ: No. And given the rumination that they're bringing to Britain, I don't know why any American would think, that is what they want, in the United States.

Our energy prices are four times your energy prices because of our net zero agenda. Because we're not doing fracking. These are the kinds of policies, these people are advocating.

So I don't think any American, would want to listen to them.

I think there's a question though, these people who are coming over.

Who is paying for their airfares?

Who is paying for their accommodation?

Has that been properly accounted for? Have the receipts been produced?

Those are the questions I would be asking.

GLENN: If the Republican Party or the Democratic Party came over and did the same thing, how would -- how would the people of Great Britain react?

LIZ: Well, it would be. It would be a problem for the -- because under our electoral law, you have to be a British citizen.

GLENN: Yeah.

LIZ: To donate to the campaign.

GLENN: Right.

LIZ: And if the Americans have flown over. Who is paying for their flights?

That would count towards election expenses, and it would be classified as a foreign donation, which is illegal.

Why Kamala's Trump-Hitler Speech Was INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS

Kamala Harris recently gave a surprise address from the Vice Presidential mansion where she used the power of her office to compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. It was one of the most disturbing pieces of propaganda that Glenn has ever seen from our government, and he argues that it crossed a line. Glenn debunks Harris’ accusations piece by piece: Does Trump want his generals to abandon their oath to the Constitution and serve him? Can that even happen? Will he lock up Americans who don’t “bend the knee”? Can we trust the source of these accusations? Glenn also explains the one thing that makes this speech even more terrifying: how Harris decided to frame it.

Transcript

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GLENN: All right. I want to tell you, yesterday, I saw something that was one of the most horrifying things I have ever seen, because I am a visual guy.

I'm -- I just wrote a book on propaganda.

And I saw something I thought I would never see.

Now, the left and the media has told Donald Trump over and over again, to turn down his rhetoric. I have to tell you, one of the reasons why I think Donald Trump is doing so well, is because he's become a happy warrior. He's not -- he's be the engaging in the kind of rhetoric, that gets people killed. Okay?

But they continue to say, he's got to turn down the rhetoric.

He will get somebody killed.

Well, they are doing so poorly in the polls. You can tell the wheels are coming off of that campaign, at record speed.

Okay?

Because of things like this.

I want to play the full state, coming from Kamala Harris. And show you why this is so bad.

And different, than everything else, that you have seen.

KAMALA: So yesterday, we learned that Donald Trump's former chief of staff, John Kelly, a retired four-star general, confirmed that while Donald Trump was president, he said, he wanted generals like Adolf Hitler had.

Donald Trump said that. Because he does not want a military. That is loyal to the United States Constitution. He wants a military that is loyal to him.

GLENN: Stop!

Okay. Let's just dissect this for a second.

Just what she's saying. We'll get to the rest in a minute.

What she's saying is that General Kelly, I guy who I believe Trump fired.

So has a bone with Donald Trump.

They don't like each other at all.

Experienced this, and is just now a week and a half before this election, decided to come out, with this statement.

Believable? No. Not in my opinion.

You know, these -- these generals were not loyal to the president of the United States.

They have taken an oath, to be loyal to the Constitution of the United States.

And they can reject anything the president says, if it goes against the Constitution. In fact, we are one of the only countries, that insists on loyalty to the Constitution, and insists, there's no such thing as I was only following orders.

Because in our military, you have the responsibility to stand up, to know the Constitution.
Know what you're fighting for. Know what's going on. And stand against it! But you don't sabotage!

Now, Kelly, if that actually happened, Kelly is discrediting himself from the beginning.

Because if that had happened, he should have gone in front of the American people, immediately.

But he didn't. So I don't believe this, in the first place.

Because I don't believe General Kelly's word. I just don't.

Now, did you notice what she said? That General Kelly said. And there's no -- there's no corroborating evidence of this.

If anything was said like this, I would believe that Donald Trump did not say like Hitler had.

I would say, he was wondering why the military wasn't following his commands. And if it was unconstitutional, then they should have said something. That it was unconstitutional. But that's not Hitler. That is following the commander-in-chief. And in Donald Trump's case, something happened in his first term, that I've never seen before.

They were sabotaging him. He would say, we're going this way, with our -- with our foreign policy. And the State Department and generals in the Pentagon were sabotaging that. They were calling our allies and our foes, and saying, don't worry about it. That's not been done before.

Now, she not only says what General Kelly said, that he wants generals. But then, she's adding the commentary, on why he said that.

She said, he said that, because he wanted people to disregard the Constitution. Not loyal to the Constitution, but loyal to him.

Now, is that a fact? Even if the first part of that statement is true! How do you assign his thoughts and feelings?

Because Donald Trump would have denied. Even if it was true, he would have denied he said that!

We know it's not true, or at least I strongly suspect it's not true.

And Donald Trump would know, that wouldn't be a good thing. So he would never say, well, this is why! So she's mixing fact with opinion.

And I'll tell you why that's so dangerous in this case here in just a second.

Go ahead.

KAMALA: Military that is loyal to him.

He wants a military who will be loyal to him personally.

One that will obey his orders, even when he tells them to break the law, or abandon their oath to the Constitution.

STU: Stop!

GLENN: When has he ever said?

He was president before. You could have gotten away with this, you know, with Hillary.

But we've seen him for four years.

When has he ever said, break your oath to the Constitution?

Go get citizens, and round them up?

He's never said that. Ever!

If you know the truth about January 6th, he was the guy saying, you should have troops, if you need, get the National Guard.

I -- I am telling you, this is January 4th!

I am telling you, I think you need the National Guard, there at the Capitol building.

Now, at first, they said, that he never said that.

Until it was proven. And then they turned that into, see, he wanted military, to help out!

Yeah. Not to help out the bad guys.

Why would he be suggesting that to Nancy Pelosi?

Not to help out the bad guys.

But to protect the Constitution, and our social order.

So they try to have it both ways.

She's treading very dangerous territory here. Listen.

KAMALA: Abandon their oath to the Constitution of the United States.

In just the past week, Donald Trump has repeatedly called his fellow Americans the enemy from within. And even said he would use --

GLENN: Stop. What does he mean by that? The enemy from within?

Well, you know who else said that?

Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln. In fact, let me quote Abraham Lincoln. Because I just looked it up today, for some other -- for something in my journal.

If a country, founded on the principle, as pure as freedom, can be destroyed, it will be through suicide.

That's the enemy within! And quite honestly, in some ways, that's all of us! Because we have forgotten who we are. And one reason is because the enemy within has failed to teach us who we are. And, in fact, has changed our history so much, that our kids are confused.

They have no idea who an enemy is!

Because they think the government itself, our Constitution is a triggering document. And the enemy itself is the government!

I think -- I think we could all agree, even the left, because they may say, I'm the enemy within.

We can all agree, that there are forces within this country, that would like to tear us apart.

There are those in America, both left and right, who actually believe in the Bill of Rights. That do not want to tear us apart. That is not the enemy within. Even if we disagree how we get there.

How we return to the Bill of Rights. Even if we disagree.

If we agree, with the Bill of Rights, you're on the right side. Go ahead.

KAMALA: From within. And even said that he would use the United States military, to go after American citizens.

GLENN: Stop. Why did he say that?

He didn't say go after American citizens.

If the country is on fire, this is what he said on January 4th.

If there is a riot, we have to put it down. So use the National Guard.

And if it's so big, use the military, if you have to!

Okay? Now, does that cross Posse Comitatus?

I'm not sure. But you know who will fight against Posse Comitatus, who will say, you can't do that, Mr. President? Anyone who reveres the Constitution, because our military has to obey. They've sworn an oath to the Constitution.

And I think those guys are the only ones. I'm talking about the actual soldiers. Not the helium high up at the Pentagon. Those are the only people that actually look at their oath, and take it as a cred oath.

Go ahead.

KAMALA: Citizens.

And let's be clear about who he considers to be the enemy from within.

Anyone who refuses to bend a knee. Or dares to criticize him.

STU: It's a lie. It's a lie.

GLENN: Stop! I got to tell you, he has been around and spoken openly to, and just would like to be treated with respect.

I'm thinking about the black journalist in Chicago.

He went to talk to them openly.

He wasn't hostile to them.

They came out of the shoot hostile.

Now, who is the one that is trying to put Elon Musk, possibly behind bars.

They are now saying, that Elon Musk, may need to go to federal prison!

He was the darling of the left, until he began to disagree with them!

Who else is trying to put people in jail, merely for disagreeing with them?

Well, Donald Trump.

Gabby Giffords.

She was called a Russian asset. Not Gabby Giffords.

You Tulsi Gabbard.

Yeah. Tulsi Gabbard. She's an enemy now.

That was, you know, working for the Russians.

You have person after person. Robert F. Kennedy.

An icon of that party. Destroyed forever. Because he dare say the king has no clothes. So which one is trying to destroy their enemies. Which one? It's clear.

STU: Can we also discuss how much of a lie this is, that she's saying?

There's a conversation, they're referring to, where he said, the problem is the enemy within.

And we may need to use the National Guard or maybe even the military.

She's saying, it's people disagreeing with him.

Judges.

Lawyers.

She had -- she had several examples there, of people, that he will target in this way.

The conversation is clear, what they are talking about, is people who cause chaos across the country, on Election Day.

He -- Maria Bartiromo. Brings up, what happens if the left brings up, causes all sorts of chaos if you win.

He says, they're talking about murderers, rapists. Terrorists that have come across the border.

He says, those people are bad. But I think maybe the bigger problem are the radical left lunatics who might do that stuff here. We may need to bring the National Guard on.

He's not talking about everyone who disagrees with them.

He's talking about people who are trying to like overthrow the government on Election Day.

Again, the same thing that the left has been saying they didn't want all this time.

GLENN: Right. Now, these are the same people. Kamala Harris is the one, who fought for the riots on the street on BLM. She supported it, and said, they shouldn't stop.

And they should never stop even after the election. She was the one bailing people out, if they were involved in these riots.

So we know she doesn't have a problem with riots. But I believe the American people, both left and right do have a problem with that.

Now, why is this beyond the pail here?

Why has this stepped over a line?

Well, Propaganda Wars.

I
Okay. Can we bring that image back up on the screen? And just freeze it. Put it in a box and freeze it for me.

In case you happen to be watching this program, on Blaze TV.

Let me -- or Pluto. Thank you for watching Pluto as well.

Let me explain why this is so dangerous.

Now, one, they always telegraph, what they're going to do. Or who they are. And I'm going to get into that, deeply in about five minutes.

So stand by. But I want to show you this image for a reason.

First of all, when you see two microphones like that, Stu.

What do you think?

Those particular two microphones?

You have never noticed?

STU: No.

GLENN: I've only seen those used by the president of the United States. Or by a vice president.

Okay?

That microphone setup, is unlike any other setup, I've ever seen, with microphones. Okay?

That's -- that's the system, that is connected to those podiums that travel with the president.

And it's always those two microphones.

Underneath it, is the seal of the vice president of the United States.

To her -- let's see. That would be to her left. It would -- it is the flag of the vice president of the United States, which resembles. Except, it's white, not blue.

It resembles the presidential seal.

Then you have the American flag. And behind her, you have a White House.

Now, it's not the White House, but your average schlub will think, that's the White House.

So why is this important? This is important because this does not appear to be a campaign statement. This does not appear to be her opinion.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: This appears as a presidential, or vice presidential, or official government finding.

Okay? Now, some will say, she's violating the hatch act, I'm not sure that's right.

I will call into a couple of people today.

Because some people say, that she and the president can violate that. Because of their office.

Without the penalties.

I'm not sure if that's true or not.

It very well may be.

I'm not worried about the violation of the hatch act.

I'm telling you right now, that this presidential or vice presidential trapping was selected for a reason. To carry extra weight.

Not to the average person. But to those on the very far left, that are susceptible to this kind of propaganda. And this kind of propaganda is for two reasons. Scare the voters, that are with you. Come on. We need you to go out and vote.

This is not for the independent. This is for their base. Go out and vote. This man is dangerous.

But it is also a message for after the election.

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Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Justin Haskins is with me. And we're talking about Propaganda Wars.

And the things that are happening currently now, that we pretty much predict in this book.

But one other thing that hasn't happened yet. But usually doesn't happen. At least in the last year, until the last one or two days.

It takes you about two days, for a deepfake to circulate, and then it's exposed as a deepfake.

All right? So prepare yourself for the October surprise of a deepfake. We'll tell you about it, where it's been done here in the last few months.

In just a minute.

The election. This is from page 150 thine.

The election challenges ahead are daunting. We've already entered the era of election fraud out of the past six presidential elections. Three have resulted in roughly half the country. Believing its candidate of choice, is screwed to the benefit of the other half of America.

If that trend continues, the United States will not survive very long.

There are good reasons to worry as well.

Many news outlets. Only provide viewers, listeners and readers what they want to hear.

Not well-established affects. Some government agencies. Laughter. And courts have been weaponized to serve political purposes.

Technological changes are occurring, that will undoubtedly alter the way people think about elections. As I explain in chapter four.

Algorithms and artificial intelligence are dramatically changing the way we experience and think about the news. They are shaping our thoughts and our feelings, often in unhealthy ways.

That further detach people against reality.

When it comes to our elections, the most dangerous threat of all. Is the one we're losing our ability to trust, what we see, and hear.

As noted in the previous chapter, deepfake images, audio, and video, are reaching a level of sophistication, that far surpasses anything we've seen before.

Now, here's how the mainstream media is dealing with this. Over the weekend, Donald Trump released a picture of himself, as a football player.

Okay?

With what is it? The Green Bay Packers. No. Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, okay. So the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Now, this is clearly not him.

If you look at his arms, he is quite ripped.

JUSTIN: I don't know, Glenn. I don't know.

STU: That's what the picture says. I don't know. So it's him currently, in his 70s.

GLENN: Right. It's ridiculous.

STU: They don't employ any 70-year-old football players.

GLENN: Okay. So this is what the mainstream media is pointing out.

Well, that's a deepfake. That's not the type of deepfake, that you should worry about.

That's not deep. That's just fake. Okay?

Now, when you see your favorite or most hated politician say or do something. Where you can't be sure, it really is him, or her.

The uncertainty will grow, as it will in this election, and the coming years.

At some point, there is going to be a deepfake crisis.

And it could spark severe economic or political instability.

It's avoidable, but only if people soon understand the threats that we are faced with, before it's too late.

Americans also, need to be better prepared to know how to tell the difference between truth and lies, and to recognize the threats posed by large institutions, and powerful politicians, who benefit from the crisis, just as I outlined in chapter three.

Okay.

So then I go into, in this chapter of the book. I go into a couple of things that are happening right now, that have happened in this election in America, that are not game-changing.

But very confusing. One of them happened in I think New Hampshire.

Yeah. New Hampshire.

And it was very confusing.

But it wasn't game-changing.

And people caught it, thank God, in time.

Now, this election, is happening all over the Western world. There are more elections happening around the world, than ever in human history.

This year. We're one of the last. So have deepfakes been used, in the last year?

Yes.

Warning, usually in the last day or two.

Because there's not enough time, to combat it.

So right before everybody goes in for the final day, something is released on one of the candidates, and it shows them, doing something or saying something.

This -- this actually happened in Chicago, in 2023.

JUSTIN: That's right. Yeah. There was a mayoral race there. That was a really contentious race between a more socialistic candidate named Brandon Johnson who nobody thought was going to win. And the establishment candidate Paul Vallas.

Right before one of the front rounds of primary voting, a deepfake audio of Vallas came out, who was -- who was white. Brandon Johnson is African-American.

Basically, talking flippantly about back in his day, cops used to shoot people all the time, and nobody cared.

GLENN: Yeah. He said, cops in my day, would kill 17 or 18 people, and nobody would even bat an eye.

JUSTIN: That's right. And it supposedly came from this news source called Chicago lakefront news.

It was presented as a news story.

It happened right before the primary.

None of it was true. It was a deepfake audio.

None of it was true.

It was circulated widely, right before the election, and Brandon Johnson, ended up doing a lot better than people thought. And then in subsequent voting, because they do multiple rounds. Subsequent voting, he ended up winning!

And it surprised everybody. Now, Brandon Johnson was the, you know, anti-establishment. Socialist candidate. Presented himself to the African-American community, as I'm going to represent you.

Here you have an audio of the other candidate, saying I don't care if black people get killed by cops. Now, we don't know. Because there's no way of actually tracking the specific, you know, correlation, between this and the outcome of the race.

Just not possible.

But that's the whole point.

It creates all sorts of uncertainty, and confusion.

And we don't know how many people were impacted by this.

Maybe not enough to swing the election.

But maybe it was enough to swing the election.

GLENN: I'm going to say something that I want you to remember, in case a deepfake comes out two days before the election. Three days. Or one day before the election.

Even if it is against Kamala Harris, and it is just so juicy, that he's like, are you kidding me?

There she is with Fidel Castro, saying, yeah. We're going to take down the United States of America, and make it Communist. Do not believe it.

Do not believe it in the last couple of takes. It is happening.

Slovakia, the same thing happened this year. This was an audio recording, that was posted to Facebook. On it, were two voices.

One, who leads the liberal progressive Slovakian party. And the other from the daily newspaper. Over there.

They appeared to be discussing how to rig the election, partly by buying votes from the country's marginalized Roma minority.

Okay. The candidate immediately said, that's not us.

This is -- this is manipulated tape. This is AI. It's not us.

It was posted during a 48-hour moratorium, ahead of the polls.

This is a moratorium, where the press and the candidates are not allowed to say anything.

They're not allowed to speak ahead of the poll's opening.

The media outlets and the politicians are supposed to be silent.

That meant under their rules, the post couldn't really be widely debunked.

It was all over the media.

But no one could say anything about it.

Even if you could say something about it, two days is not enough, to reduce the damage.

Especially, honestly, if it came out against Donald Trump. Because the press would -- I mean, the press isn't going to do that anyway.

It would rely on people, that know how to tell the difference between a deepfake and not a deepfake. And I don't have that expertise. Do you?

JUSTIN: No. Now, what's really important about this. Especially as it pertains to Donald Trump. Is that the left, and this is the big theme of this book.

Is that the left, the elites, they're constantly preparing for all these different crazy scenarios, that could happen.

Not just deepfakes. But all sorts of things.

Then they use those golden opportunities. As prince Charles once talked about with COVID.

To reset the world.

This is what they do.

Well, when it comes to deepfakes. We know they are war gaming this out.

We know it. We talked about it in the book. We outline all the things they're doing.

They held a huge event called the deepfake dilemma. Earlier this year.

Where they prepared for -- they got all these government officials together. Democrats. And people in the media.

Alex Whit from MSNBC was there. And they held this event. To war game what happens, hypothetically, if a deepfake, benefiting Donald Trump, produced by Russia.

Occurs just before the election, showing election fraud.

But there really isn't election fraud. Or telling voters, in a swing state, the wrong time or place to vote.

What -- how are we going to handle this?

What are we going to do?

And their solution to it was, we need to set up a network, of trusted experts. That you can go to. If you're a local election official. In the event of a deepfake crisis. So we can talk to you, and we will tell you what the answer is to these problems. All the people involved in this. Are crazy, anti-Trump.

And scary anti-Trump.

One of the main people is a guy named miles --

STU: He was their Trump aide at one point, wasn't he?

He was in the department of -- he was the chief staff at the Department of Homeland Security in the Trump administration.

STU: Right. Right. Yeah.

GLENN: When he was in the Trump administration, he wrote an op-ed in the New York Times, anonymously saying I'm the leader of the resistance inside the Trump administration.

Then he wrote a book, anonymously, about it. Then he wrote another book, not anonymously. Admitting, that he was the guy all along.

He was the big hero on the left. Because he was working inside the government.

In the national security, to thwart the duly elected president of the United States. They have no problem, as we have now seen, with -- with -- they have no problem with it.

JUSTIN: And he's one of the leaders of these he people, who is preparing for this crisis that might break out at any moment! So what happens if this does occur? Even if it's a deepfake that doesn't matter.

Our local election officials are being trained to go to people like that. For the answer to the question, at the final hour.

Well, I -- do you trust that? I certainly don't trust Miles Taylor and people like that to have the right answer. This is -- this could potentially be, and we don't know. Maybe no deepfake crisis happens. But if it does, this is incredibly disturbing.

I mean, talk about unrest. Talk about people questioning the validity of the election, if something like this happens.

If I'm -- the thing I am most worried about is this.

GLENN: And you might think, well, we're so close to the election. No, no, no.

This is when that happens.

This is one of the reasons, we -- we released this book, right on top of the election.

Because there is things in it, you need to know.

Right now. And I must want to risk you forgetting about it.

Deepfakes are really important and very destructive.

And have already happened in this election cycle, with massive ramifications in other countries.

Four billion people voted this year.

And several places, several countries, deepfakes, have been used to sway the election, in the opposite direction, just days before the election.

Be very, very careful.