Is Bachmann being told to apologize or lose her position on House Intelligence Committee?

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Congresswoman Michele Bachmann is getting heat from establishment colleagues over her calls to look more closely into the Muslim Brotherhood and their disturbing influence and infiltration in Congress. Glenn urged people to stand with Bachmann because she is exposing a serious threat to America – it makes one wonder, why would anyone push back?

“I want to talk to you about something of the most serious nature I think I have addressed on the air in maybe a year,” Glenn said as he started the show this morning.

“Do you remember when I said social justice, and get out of churches if you’re involved with social justice?” he asked. “The attacks came from all quarters.”

“Today the political world is in the same kind of attack mode not against me but somebody else.  Michelle Bachmann.  For a letter she released last week, and within minutes the attacks started coming from both sides of the aisle.”

Bachmann has come under fire for comments directed at Clinton aide Huma Abedin. In a letter she co-signed, she said, ” “Huma Abedin has three family members — her late father, her mother and her brother — connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations.”

Glenn said, “No one including Michelle Bachmann is saying she has been compromised. What Michelle Bachmann is asking for – as is her duty to stand and protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic – all she’s asking is was there a proper check.”

Glenn has learned that she is now facing pressure to apologize for her comments for be removed from her position on the U.S. House intelligence committee.

When the controversy first started over Bachmann’s comments, she quickly explained: “Not once in the letter to the Inspector General of the Department of State, as you summarize, was it stated that “by extension, (Ms. Abedin), may be working on the organization’s behalf.”

She added, “That her family members are connected to the Muslim Brotherhood has been reported and referenced widely in the Arab-language media, including Al-Hayat, The Arab Times and Al-Jazeera.”

“That does not mean that Huma has done anything wrong,” Glenn explained.

Nevertheless, Glenn asked why it was so ridiculous to think that the same administration that allowed 9/11 Truther and former STORM member Van Jones to be the “green jobs czar” would fail at a background.

In the letter that Bachmann sent out, she had sixteen pages of footnoted information detailing evidence of Muslim Brotherhood infiltration into the United States government. You can read the full letter at the bottom of this article. On radio, Glenn went through some of the key arguments that Bachmann brought forth, and wondered why the media and other politicians were so quick to dismiss the entire document solely because of the Huma Abedin allegation.

“They’re focusing on a process question – whether one woman went through the proper background check. It is what the left always does when they set out to destroy someone. The other claims in this letter, like for example The Muslim Brotherhood is attempting to infiltrate our US government, are supported by quotes from the Muslim Brotherhood itself,” Glenn said.

“Michelle Bachmann is absolutely fearless and if they take Michele Bachmann out, they will take anyone out,” Glenn said. “This is both in the Republican and Democratic parties. She is saying what she believes. She is saying at great peril to her life and her job in Washington.”

“She is saying what she believes because she believes it’s what is right for the country. And so do I. Without any hesitation, without any reservation. I warn you if you do not take the Muslim Brotherhood seriously and help people like Michele Bachmann stand in this battle, they will pick them off one at a time,” Glenn said.

“There are very few people in Washington – more than you know, more than you would expect, less than you would hope – but there are those standing in Washington that are true to the constitution, true to the founding principles. True to themselves. Michelle Bachmann is one of them. She deserves and needs your support today. They are threatening – from the Republicans, Boehner and McCain – threatening Michele Bachmann that if she does not apologize for this letter today, she will lose her position on the intelligence committee. She is perfectly willing to have that happen. I am telling you that is a huge, huge mistake. And it is being orchestrated by those who either have their heads up someplace where their heads don’t belong or they’re getting marching orders from the very peaceful, very secular, nonpolitical, just sweet as pumpkin pie Muslim Brotherhood.”

Read the full letter below:

Bachmann Letter Responding to Ellison

  • http://www.artinphoenix.com/gallery/grimm snowleopard (cat folk gallery)

    We need to support Bachmann and those in the House/Senate who are willing to put so much on the line to save the nation, and to bring the truth of the matter forward in full.

    Based on the strength of the opposition she has rialed up against her, there is much more corrption and back room dealings with the Muslim Brotehrhood and probably other gangs of extremists. May God keep her safe and protected in the time ahead, please write or call your senator and let them know your feeling on the matter.

    Remember, for evil to win, all that is needed is for a good person to stand by and do nothing.

  • Draxx

    This is one of the Nazi’s Main Attack Methods.

    Attack Publicly, and Humiliate until Public Thinks Less of That Specific Person and Not What They Are Standing For…

  • http://twitter.com/GeorgettaDCarra Georgetta D. Carrara

    This is one of the Nazi’s Main Attack Methods...MadeOnlineCash.blogspot.com

  • Draxx

    You Stated that in an Excellent Way… Go Michelle Bachmann and what you stand for…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Raymond-Manuel-De-Mello/1613971998 Raymond Manuel De Mello

    More distraction and derailment by the Obama administration…thats all this is.

  • w. Parker

    And McCain (a fake republican), perhaps he needs to be investigated.  He took it upon himself to lash out against Bachman on the Senate floor in protection of ex-congressman Weiner’s (the Weener) wife – a MB operative.  McCain is always calling for america to get involved in middle eastern conflicts – only for the Brotherhood to take over.  As far as democraps, what do you expect from communist, athiests, socialists and muslims…

  • http://www.facebook.com/otakuraf Rafael Torres

    I agree! The same extremists are the same ones who gang-raped Lara Logan in Egypt http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/04/lara_logan_speaks_out_on_her_r.html     last year, and the same extremists who last month gang raped Natasha Smith wich was a repet of last year, http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/stop-journalist-describes-horrific-tahrir-square-sex-assault-article-1.1103607 and of course the same people who did this, http://www.theblaze.com/stories/horrifying-taliban-seemingly-executes-woman-accused-of-adultery-in-front-of-150-men/ as well as the same people who caused 9/11, Spain’s 3/11 bombings, the Iranian embasay takeover, the killing of Daniel Pearl, and all sorts of stuff the extremists have done! Don’t forget they’re also the same people who want to wipe Israel off the map!!  We need to support Congresswoman Bachman, people like Brigette Garbriel, and moderate Musliums like Zhudi Jasser, and others who are fighting back aganst radical Islam. We need to stop it before it stops us. We also need to end the liberal bias and political correctness before it endangers us furher!

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann and those like her are whats wrong with ths country. I have zero respect for her and her lack of intelligence. She is a clown. What a joke she made of herself by running for President in the first place.Well, they all did. It’s good that America could see just what a fool she is though.

  • RonL

    Send Bachmann a thank you and a donation. She’s running against a millionaire Democrat. 

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps what is more clear here is who is not concerned with the people of this country, and maybe a bit further who it may be supporting/buying the decisions of congress. She(Michelle) might be a little to close to uncovering the honey hole. I’m reminded of Obama telling the people “congress is not listening to me or the people”, that leaves few options of the source being listened to. Most likely, being also concerned about survival, they listen to the money talk. It would stand to reason “the great whore” as in Rev. is selling the law/father to the highest bidder. Exposing things of the like are frowned upon by those with their hand in the cookie jar.

  • Anonymous

    DRAXX,

    Not that I disagree with you, but I suggest more accurately that the propaganda, subversive and revolutionary tactics you mention were born and perfected somewhere between the Philosopher Marx and the sociopathic revolutionary, Lenin.

    The Russian/Soviet revolution contained the propaganda and was uninhibited in the use of violence.  (Note: We can’t forget Mao and the allegory of the flowers, can we?)                 

    “One death is a tragedy, a million deaths, a statistic” Stalin

    As for all you lefties out there, Obama and company are the progeny of those men mentioned above.  Even the rhetoric coming from the American Left is accepting of its Socialist roots.  Despotism comes in various forms, for instance the “Divine Right of Kings” launched a thousand ships of conquest and despotism.  However, in the last 200 years if you seek a “despot,” look to socialism! 

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    SNOW,

    IF, Conservatives such as Bachman could discard or even curtail their religious overtones, would they gain more support from the center than lose from the right?

    Purveyor

  • w. Parker

    Not as funny nor as amusing as the “Emmett Kelly” of Clowns - Obama is, and no larger of a joke as the circus troop of chimps - the democrapic party is. In fact if you like Barnum and Bailey, check out Charlotte, Sept 3rd-6th, as the only thing that will be missing is the trapeze act

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SSLY766LFF6KMU2QJ5CIEU3OGY LET'S GET FILTHY STINKING

    you cant expect dc , who is pc correct, to think normal.  fort hood was work place violence, remember??  muslims and socialists are all over the place. no borders and we are going to hell in a handbasket.  be understanding.  let muslim brotherhood kill their daughters for honor, it’s their  right.  do not mess with their religious beliefs.  mess with christians.  they are the majority in america and you can run rough shod over them.  when the muslim leaves the wh the muslims will leave america.  maybe

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SSLY766LFF6KMU2QJ5CIEU3OGY LET'S GET FILTHY STINKING

    bachman is honest.  unexpected in dc.  too bad the rino’s are not.  i dont expect dems to be honest…..but,senator diane finsteim of california is suprising me lately

  • Anonymous

    Well sir, I hope you enjoy the next four years is our President.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tlstafford1 Thomas L. Stafford

    Did you read the letter? It was not the babbling of a fool.  It was a well written researched, and thoroughly footnoted treatise on muslim infiltration of many organs of our government especially the Secretary of State’s Office. There have been far too
    many errant security estimates involving muslim countries coming out of that office.

  • Anonymous

    Michele Bachmann is a true patriot. She has fought hard for conservative values, even when she was surrounded by radical progressives. I am proud she is serving in the House of Representatives and I would even be proud to vote for her for president. She has the guts, and integrity we need to do what is right. If any of you look up Michele Bachmann, you will immediately see how much time progressives spend trying to fasely destroy bachmann. However, the only way they get away with it is because to many Americans will not stand up for what is right. Soon, we will see how much mustard Americans have in this election, how many will vote Obama out, and how many will vote for Obama thinking he is going to pay their way through life?

  • Anonymous

    What would be the point? If you are religious and have strong conservative values why would you not want to lead with your strength?  What we have in Washington is a bunch of posers and communists. If we are to save this country we need 150 million more Michele Bachman’s. I guarantee you she is a Chrsitian and I guarantee you she will vote for Mitt Romney, a Mormon (Christian). She is a patriot of the highest order and she can differentiate between right and wrong. She does not bend to political pressure and she has been time tested. If you look at the blogs on Michele, and the attacks that are made on her family, her faith, and her values you can instantly see how these progressives would treat you if they had absolute power.

  • Anonymous

     Wow, such deep thinking.  Nothing here but name calling.  No substance whatsoever, which is typical of liberals.  Did you even read the story?  Or did you just have your typical liberal knee-jerk reaction to anything relating to someone or something Christian?

  • http://www.facebook.com/vickie.rhoades.77 Vickie Rhoades

    these people are dangerous and if our government listens to their lies,,,we are in big trouble . i can not believe Boehner and Mcain can not see this,what else are they saying that would be bad for America?..everything this lady said during her campaign was from her heart and putting America first!!!! she would be a good vice pres. or she could take Hillarys place!!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V36M7QB2ZZYLJ57IQRG2BI3JTE S

    Spokane12…..You are paid by obama troll # 165

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V36M7QB2ZZYLJ57IQRG2BI3JTE S

    Paid troll #165

  • Anonymous

    Mrs. Bachmann’s inquiries are justified and appropriate, especially when considering the potential gravity of such familial alliances as have been suggested.  Why, then, Glenn, are you so condescendingly “down” on other reputable citizens, including some quite notable and high profile ones, who have good  -  and growing  -  legitimacy in questioning Obama’s eligibility to hold the office of President?  I fail to easily distinguish any real differance, and certainly see the potential gravity of the latter issue to be well beyond that of which Mrs. Bachmann has legitimate concerns.

  • Anonymous

    The info about Huma has been known since her husbands weener was on the net. Why does it take so long for anyone in Washington to do anything?

  • Anonymous

    I’m so sick of these morons who act like zombie’s. To these idiots get your stupid head out of the sand and see what is happening all around you. Bachmann is right in what she is saying. We have muslim in HLS. Talk about foxes in the hen house.  They are like a fungus that gets into every part of our country and then spread their verman. WHAT WE NEED IS MORE BACHMANNS TO STOP THE FLOW OF THIS DISEASE.!!!!   I have e-mailed McCain  to stop and look around. If we don’t watch it, we will end up like EGYPT.  Remember people they have NOT taken on our ways and said there glad to be Americans. Their idol is ISLAM AND THEY WANT US TO CONVERT TO THEIR WAY.!!!! Are you ready to turn form our GOD to their idol.  COUNT ME OUT.  THEY CAN ALL DROP IN TO YOU NO WHERE.!!!!

  • new2la

    I heard Michele speak at a John Hagee conference and she spoke at length about the MB…..she knows her stuff and was great in that she laid out their agenda. Scary to say the least and we need to pay attention. She pointed out their plan for the US and Sharia Law; As American’s we need to cut the neck of this snake.

  • Anonymous

    All you did was list the talking points of the left, that’s it! Blah, Blah, Blah

  • sparducks

    MICHELLE, MICHELLE, MICHELLE. Tell those traitors to: “GET COITED”.

  • Anonymous

    President will benefit directly for his cooperation with Muslims world wide.  He is guaranteed future prosperity for making  it possible for our over throw.  Michelle has the right to demand the vetting and they need to vet this woman now.  Read Michelle’s letter now the Muslims are not to be trusted not now and not ever they are to be our staunches enemy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001379436847 Susie Weaver

    See Rules for Radicals…

  • Anonymous

     It is the religion that calls for our destruction.  It is unavoidable with a Muslim in the White House. But I have believed for a long time now that we are in the last generation before this all ends so the best thing to do is to be prepared for HIS coming. to carry His Church away.

  • http://www.facebook.com/debiclark5 Debi Hagan Clark

    You’re the liberal clown.  Open your eyes!!! Don’t you see what’s happening to our country?  Or maybe YOU and those like you support America’s collapse.

  • sparducks

    Dude you are obviously a cartoon character and read to many MAD magazines when you were a kid. Thats why you became a comie. The nefarious group at the head of this story is the MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD. A nasty religious group. Trackin’ so far? They want to kill or subjugate all nonmuslims.If you are a christian that means you. If you are a jew that means you. If you are a rastafarian that means you. If you are a snotty nosed latte drinkin big mouth know it all college punk liberal that licks the boots of his commie professor, and really has no core or moral compass but meerly parrots his school master, this also means you. Grow up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/harold.caton.1 Harold Caton

    god bless  her  and  keep  her  saft

  • http://www.facebook.com/harold.caton.1 Harold Caton

    god bless  her  and keep her safe

  • Anonymous

    So far fifty Moslem organizations have petitioned our administration with such threats that our FBI and CIA are no longer allowed to train for countermeasures against Islamist terrorism.  This proves that Islam is not the religion of peace – otherwise those fifty organizations would be writing to our government with offers of assistance against the terrorism.

      As you know, Islam is not a religion.  The free will to follow God part is missing and replaced with enforced submission.  That and fourteen centuries of terrorism, misogyny and child abuse – pretty much disqualify the “religion” excuse.  Islam is a very dangerous global-domination cult, treat it as such.

      There are only two reasons for any support of Islam; threats and accomodation.  So, Mr Boehner, Mr McCain and friends…
    boys, you will stand with Mrs Bachmann as patriots or you will leave your offices as traitors.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V3EWRI6KQRHYR6YCX7Q2J3J2NA Jackie

    I need to watch this again.  I thought I saw Glenn wearing a CU shirt w/ a buffalo and got a little goofy.

  • http://www.facebook.com/harold.caton.1 Harold Caton

    if  only  she   was   our   president

  • Anonymous

    all the idiots that doubt the connection to the muslim brotherhood should bend over grab their ears and pull real hard

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann is courageous and correct.  McCain and Boehner are political hacks who do not care about this country’s safety and security.  All they care about is their big donors, power and political capital.  It is bad enough to have the left wing loons to deal with — but to have the
    Republicans behave as badly and to ignore the Muslim Brotherhood is a crime against this country.  Where are the other conservatives on this?  SPEAK OUT!!! Support Michelle and the other brave congressmen who want to investigate the Muslim Brotherhood infiltration into our government.

  • Anonymous

    I believe it was Edward Bernays? He wrote a book called “Propoganda” where he explained that propoganda was necessary in a democracy because of “the people’s” dangerous herd menatlity. He was the one who renamed the word propoganda to “Public Relations.” In other words, he strongly believed that lying to the masses was justified by the end means. This is where I laugh when progressives think they have a new idea. Many a narcissist, such as those you listed above, used Edward Bernay’s ideas to help them confront the threat of democracy. Once accomplished it was murder incorporated that kept the people in line. I believe the propoganda is what made them feel justified to bring about the “Fundamental Change.” When my son went to Harvard they taught him that he was in the top 3% of the smartest people in the world. They told him he would be a leader of the masses and because he was so intelligent he must be right; thus, if he had to lie to the people to implement his ideas then it was okay. We actually argued on the phone for an hour. I remember telling him that I can’t believe we are arguing about whether or not it is okay to lie? Think about how much Harvard cost and this is what you learn! To me it is a great marketing ploy to get you to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on an education you could have received for a few dollars at your library or from the village idiot.

  • Anonymous

    The radical progressives are not going to like you citing the truth. You better tone it down.

  • Anonymous

    I hope it is not too late with constant propaganda, lies and distortions of the left wing extremists, especially the White House, and the media.  The lies are out of control and I am concerned that the mass population has fallen for it because they are too busy, lazy or self absorbed to check beyond the Daily Show or alphabet news…  

    I cannot believe we are opening our doors and security to the Muslim Brotherhood radicals who are sponsors of terrorism  are dedicated to the destruction of Israel and the West.   God Bless America!

  • Anonymous

    Do the lefties not realize that if they destroy America — it is destroyed for them too?   Good luck getting one of these cushy professor positions under Islamist extremists or Communists.

  • Anonymous

    If so, she should go public with the names of those threatening and blackmailing a federal official in the capacity of her job, and then resign from the committee and start her own investigation with any other real representatives. Those who stand in her way should be swept aside in a tidal wave of anger and disgust at their refusal to do their jobs, and recalls for incompetence and failing to fulfill their oaths of office should be filed. I bet every one named is thrown out.
    Islam is NOT a religion, it is a political 
    system dependent on the barbaric sharia law, which uses intimidation, violence and beheadings to force everyone into submission, (islam does not mean “peace”, it means “submission”). It is diametrically opposed to freedom, and is a threat to the existence of the United States.
    continued: 
    http://realetybytes.com/?p=271 

  • Anonymous

    Boehner and McCain are showing themselves to be part of the Anti-America problem. They seem to be covering for Obama’s rotting of the fabric of America. It’s time to clean-house.
     We need more people like Bachmann and West, God give them strength.

  • Anonymous

    My compliments and thank you for a well written piece that expounded nicely on my thoughts.  Nice to make your acquaintance.

    Regarding your son and Harvard: Some of Americas greatest warriors and patriots once came from Ivy League Schools.  They joined with  “Wild Bill” Donovan and the OSS.  Things change. 

     Fortunately, America still produces some great patriots as well as warriors?

    Purveyor

  • Washington76

    Iranians are incredibly open to the gospel message of Jesus’ love and forgiveness. Many are disillusioned with the oppression of Islam and are desperate for the truth.Every day, more Iranians are hearing the hopeful message of The Way, The Truth and The Life through satellite TV broadcasts.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HtsAlW1v1k&feature=player_embeddedThe 14 Senators Who Voted Against NDAA (D-MD), Coburn (R-OK), Crapo (R-ID), DeMint (R-SC), Durbin (D-IL), Franken (D-MN), Harkin (D-IA), Lee (R-UT), Merkley (D-OR), Paul (R-KY), Risch (R-ID), Sanders (I-VT), Wyden (D-OR) (14 American Heroes)

  • Anonymous

    I agree,she has guts and thats what the rest of the GOP are very much in need of. Instead of lashing out against someone trying to protect this Republic,Back her up you cowards!.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-Davila/1258742697 Ricardo Davila

    Beck, you have ZERO credibility on this subject and your endorsement of Bachman’s lunacy only serves to discredit her even further.  This is McCarthyism all over again. People are presumed guilty simply by association.  You talk about restoring love when all you promote is hatred to those who are different.  I honestly hope these Republicans have the guts to censure this crazy dingbat and for the people of Minnesota to put someone else in her place.  There is still hope for America but only if we get rid of these nuts.

  • Anonymous

    How about a nice game of chess? I’ll play white, of course, meaning I’ll open…

    “e4″

    SPARDUCKS,

    Apparently you are either NOT serious, or you don’t know me as my reputation usually precedes me!

    I am a Philosopher who merely asked a socio-legal, philosophical question that is VERY germane to the issue. And you prefer to assume, negatively my political inclinations without even considering the question I posed.

    Do I detect a hint of cognitive dissonance?

    The Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • sparducks

     We sure could use old Joe McCarthy right about now. But Michelle Bachman will have to do. So we are here to defend her to the end. As for you Mr. Davila it will be back to Havana for you when we sweep out the trash.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DF4UUNATEPJLRO3VM6Q7BVQ25E If There is No God

    Mrs. Bachmann is 100% correct. Muslims are very patient, and if it takes a 100 or 200 years, they will try, 1 brick at a time, to bring down the united states and convert it to islam. Islam, when you really get into it and study it, is the most evil organization in modern history, and, because it calls itself a “religion” is even more dangerous than the nazi’s.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/CKBSZ2LY5AQHAPHFBUAAWDUPFM Tobin

    I can’t help but think McCain is part of the problem. I
    was really disappointed with the poor campaign he waged against Barack Obama,
    considering his (candidate Obama’s) conversation with “Joe the
    Plumber”. He, in my opinion, did not fight for the job. He did not counter
    lies and attacks Obama leveled at him. He just didn’t fight for the job. The
    only fighting I saw was with Sarah Palin. His campaign was more interested in
    throwing her under the bus than waging war with then candidate Barack Obama.
    After he got the nomination he just skated through. Now it looks like he was
    trying to get Obama elected. He certainly didn’t put up much of a fight
    himself. It’s as if he got the GOP nomination and then sat down and waited for
    his “opponent” to get elected. Why would he do that? Was there some
    incentive for him to do so?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V72LYWUDSMI473Z3LEMWLHTL7E Darrel

    Congresswoman Bachmann is right on.  The House Leader should be the lead on, all the Representatives and Senators that take their sown to up hold and defend the Constitution should be backing her completed.

    She is doing her job as part of the Intelligence Committee.

    Those not backing her are not do their job to defending this country.
     

  • Anonymous

    See, I am big fan of “Tail Gunner Joe.”  In fact, I’ve even been to his grave in Appleton Wisconsin.

    Turns out Joe was right after all.  The Government was full of commies and Alger Hiss was indeed a spy.  Ever read the Venona Papers or the Mitrohkin Diaries?

    Your new friend…

  • sparducks

    Instead of chess how about a nice game of rugby, and what you detect is gas inflamation , low testosterone agravated by really cheap scotch. As for your stellar reputation I could care less. Unless of course you are the guy who will miraculously turn this ship around, so my grankids don’t get saddled with a mountain of debt. Take you ivy league b.s. and stick it. I never went to college but I’ll bet I paid for people like BHO to go. and furthermore I can care less about all of your credentials unless your gonna put those to good use defending the constitution and America. Who gives a crap about the religious tone. They are breaking the law. Or at least bending it.

  • Anonymous

    McCain Anti-American????  That guy is a war hero, who fought to defend this country…

  • Anonymous

    With all due respect, you sound a bit like Heavens Gate or David Koresh, even old Charles and his “family?”

    Theology has a way of distorting reality with unpleasant results.  But, then again, Marx called religion “the opiate of the masses.”  Even that phrase is meant to be contextual.  But, you have to read Marx to understand his point(s)…

    Or, you could ask me?

    Purveyor

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HV4XRDQ5FM4O2HMS2D3OPV44QM Neal

    Could you possibly cite examples of “her lack of intelligence”, why you think of her as a clown, what was funny about her running for President, and why you see her as a fool other than your kool-aid induced homoerotic fantasies of the “smartest President ever”? Could you also define “those like her”? Would that mean those who believe in the Constitution, limited government, hard work, self reliance, independence and liberty?

  • Anonymous

    I stand with Michelle Bachmann! She is absolutely right to demand investigation and it’s to take seriously many of the answer and reaction she is receiving from her colleagues … Islamists have no place in our government. Congress acts are very suspicious. I thanks Michelle Bachmann for her courage!!!

  • sparducks

    No but I would love to. I read Young stalin by montefiore during the last election cycle and it was quite startling. the parralels. Only thing missing hear is the need for a revolution. Too many are falling over themselves to give away the farm to the progressives. I know you intellectuals like to catagorize communism, marxism stalinism, all kinds of isms. But in reality friend what it always means in the end is a bullet in the back of my neighbors head because he was a serb or a jew or a muslim. Some people think it can’t happen here. I disagree. Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Stalin and co use Muslim extremists in georgia to add to the chaos prior to the “Revolution”?

  • Anonymous

    I once wrote that: “Success is not the only source of knowledge and wisdom. That failure and misdirection often contain viable lessons for life.”

    Do you agree?

    Another question: Is our Constitution based on reason or emotion? Furthermore, should all laws be based on reason or emotion?

    Your new friend

  • Draxx

    wvelie, you flashed me back to one of Plato’s Quotes, “Only the rulers of states should have the privelage of lying…”  To me no one should have the privelage of lying!

  • sparducks

    Agree, Reason but pulling a trigger requires emotion.

  • sparducks

    And btw. 5 trillion in new debt ought to simmer your emotions just a little

  • Clark Rupp

    Seems like a simple solution….. The letter points out issues and asks the question ” Did she go through the typical background checks for a high security clearance”.  Well, did she ?

  • new2la

    Does anyone remember Fort Hood?

  • Anonymous

    I have on my book shelf, Montefiore”s book: “Stalin, The Court of the Red Tsar” All they did was plot against each other and murder anyone suspicious…

    The Venona Papers were the documents the Russians released after the Soviet fell and it turns out Old Joe was right on the money! Ann Coulter wrote a book “Treason” that covers much of the information contained in the Venona Papers.

    I swear, sometimes, some American’s can be so obtuse and cowardly?

    I can’t answer the Muslim question you ask, but the NAZI’s used Muslims in the SS. I’ll look into your question as I am curious.

    Purveyor

  • new2la

    I think he was re-programmed before coming back. Something is not right with this war hero! Where do you think Meghan McCain has gotten her radical ideas?

  • Anonymous

    Thats where I was going with my original question about Bachman and religion. Socialists, (the Left) tend to rule by caprice, whim and emotion as they think they are soo smart.

    Theocracies almost invariably rule by emotion/morality handed down by a God, a book, etc.

    As a Philosopher, I am looking for reason and logic in our laws. BUT, those reasoned laws will satisfy our emotional/religious inclinations?

    What did Mr. Jefferson mean when he wrote: “Unalienable rights and self evident truths”? I think he was using pure REASON when he penned the Declaration?

    Purveyor

  • sparducks

    It was during the time he was robbing banks and setting oil wells on fire. kinda like the crap ayers pulled. and as far as the emotional question you posed. here is my answer: I have a 5 year old little boy and 5 grandkids they need a future. I worked in hollywood for 20 years and left there to live in the bible belt. Now me and Jesus are headed back to Hollywood where you know who your friends are. I like to say commie and not lib in a derogatory term because I have some lib friends I would break bread with before some of these “christians” that cant stop breakin the law. My money is earned by hard labor and a little bit of brains. but I get tired of little commies trying to discredit the core of the message with mindless minutia. sorry if I fired over your bow but that post smacked of subtle snarkyism. Like that word? Friend.

  • Anonymous

     I know McCain’s history and I voted for him. I still believe he would have been a better president. However I don’t agree with all of his actions. By Anti-American problem I mean the people in Congress who are ignorant of, or unwilling to confront the infiltration of communists and islamist in the government. So maybe instead of telling Bachmann to apologize, they should act like Americans and protect the US for enemies foreign and domestic.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HV4XRDQ5FM4O2HMS2D3OPV44QM Neal

     So was Benedict Arnold. I supported McCain and voted for him, but was puzzled by his lack of enthusiasm for the campaign. I couldn’t understand why he even ran considering the permanent effects of having been a long term guest at the Hanoi Hilton and then marrying a blonde with a great rack who owned a beer distributorship. I would have thought he’d be happy spending his life in comfortable retirement and limiting his conversation to, “Hey babe, as long as you’re up, how ’bout bringing me a cold one?” instead of being a talking bobble head who couldn’t say anything but, “I’m a maverick”.

  • Anonymous

    Huma was raised in Saudi Arabia by Muslim extremists between the ages of 2 and 19. Her parents were not US citizens, but students. She came here to go to the University her father attended. Nobody knows much more about her or where she got money (lots of it very young with little income as an intern) and why is she touted as a rising political star? and she makes policy speeches for Clinton.  Where is her vetting?  Why the attacks on Bachman for asking questions? She was not raised a US citizen; again, she was raised by radical Muslims in Saudi Arabia and it is reported that she is a practicing Muslim. And she is embedded in the State Department by Clinton?

  • Anonymous

    “Snarkyism”

    Anyway, nice to make your acquaintance…

  • sparducks

    On the contrary. The bible says that the attributes of God are self evident. I think he was refering to the self evident truth that all men were CREATED, equal and endowed with unalienable rights. And I agree by intellect with them. To view film of men in europe in the 30s and 40s pushing their neighbor down a hill and puting a bullet in their brains is an emotional thing. If my neighbor is a Jew Or a Pole or an Iranian It is my duty to love them and protect them unless they are out to harm me or my other neighbors. And I’m talking about my American neighbors. You know next door. So when I see fn commie punks ready to give up there 2nd ammend. rights or take any rights from me it gets me emotional. dig? I see your point though I know I’m abrasive, I’m just tryin to be persuasive. Only an idiot would give up one single right.

  • sparducks

    You too. I lumber across my keyboard. Precludes me from a chess match lets chat again.

  • sparducks

    You must read “Young Stalin” it is a revealing look into the making of monster. He was not immoral but amoral. Don’t know if I’m quoting anyone but you capice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/linda.bentley.73 Linda Bentley

    If so, then Congress is a sham and so is the oath of office every member swore to upon taking office.
     

  • Anonymous

    Off topic for just a second something important.

     Believe it or not.

     

     

     

    Is this a mosquito? No. It’s an
    Insect spy drone for urban areas, already in
    production, funded by the US Government.

    It can be
    remotely controlled and is equipped with a camera and a
    microphone.

    It can land on you, and it may have the
    potential to take a DNA sample or leave RFID tracking
    nanotechnology on your skin.

    It can fly through an
    open window, or it can attach to your clothing until you take
    it in your home.

    Given their propensity to request
    macro-sized drones for surveillance, one is left with little
    doubt that police and military may look into these gadgets
    next.

    Many of us remember (or
    have heard about) Michael Rennie, in “The Day The Earth Stood
    Still”, as Klatu, with his robot Gort.

    But the reality
    is not a 10-foot tall impregnable metal behemoth who shoots
    out  laser beams that slice through tanks, and melt
    rifles in people’s hands… It’s a robot that is the size of a
    mosquito, which flies just like one, and looks like one. 
    They just need to get the “bugs” worked out!

    Of course,
    Gort could think and take orders, but so can the human that
    operates this mosquito, and if the mosquito had to think on
    it’s own, that human would just be switched out with a
    computer. 

  • Anonymous

    Oh, they took the picture of the mosquito off my post, why?  Oh well, wanted to pass this information to everyone.

  • Anonymous

    This is how Bachmann will destroy Romney’s chances of winning in November, it will separate the Republican party and be fodder for the Democrat spin machine.  Well done Bachmann, you crazy lady.

  • Anonymous

    With all due respect, meaning none, you sound like a progressive, with no logic, relevance or comprehension.
    Alnga sounds like what I call a Rapture Christian. Her reference to Islam as a religion that calls for our destruction is accurate.
    It is not theology that distorts reality. It is stupid people who distort theology.
    I would not ask your opinion on Marx. I have studied him. Our culture is so saturated with opiates and other drugs, religion (as long as it is of the Judeo-Christian variety) is the only antidote.

  • Anonymous

     People with integrity stand up for what they believe.  Say what you mean and mean what you say.  I have more respect for someone that does that, even if I don’t agree with them, than someone that is always saying what they think you want to hear.  I think they call those folks politicians.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IBPI63ABT264USBDALCN4F7UKY billy2

    Pretty much Linda, I see nothing ethical on either side, none of them have kept their solemn oath of office, particularly the little weasel in the wh. 

  • Anonymous

     Purveyor1,
    With all due respect, meaning none, you sound like a progressive, with no logic, relevance or comprehension.
    Alnga sounds like what I call a Rapture Christian. Her reference to Islam as a religion that calls for our destruction is accurate.
    It is not theology that distorts reality. It is stupid people who distort theology.
    I would not ask your opinion on Marx. I have studied him. Our culture is so saturated with opiates and other drugs, religion (as long as it is of the Judeo-Christian variety) is the only antidote.

  • Anonymous

     Purveyor1,
    With all due respect, meaning none, you sound like a progressive, with no logic, relevance or comprehension.
    Alnga sounds like what I call a Rapture Christian. Her reference to Islam as a religion that calls for our destruction is accurate.
    It is not theology that distorts reality. It is stupid people who distort theology.
    I would not ask your opinion on Marx. I have studied him. Our culture is so saturated with opiates and other drugs, religion (as long as it is of the Judeo-Christian variety) is the only antidote.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IBPI63ABT264USBDALCN4F7UKY billy2

    I also stand with her, I called her office and praised her for her courage, and said now take one more bigger step and call for an investigation on the weasel in our oval office, that this monger has more evidence that clearly shows it is a fraud and a felon, than not.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IBPI63ABT264USBDALCN4F7UKY billy2

    NO THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN IT, WHY ISN’T THIS SLIMY LITTLE CRETIN BEEN TRIED AND CONVICTED.

  • w. Parker

    If anything, it will separate the “real” republicans from fake ones

  • Anonymous

    When and how does a “politician” become a leader?

    The thirties and forties were a time when giants walked the earth, meaning Churchill and Roosevelt. Truman emerged as a “leader” and the Pax Americanus of Eisenhower make him a leader. I think Kennedy qualifies?

    But, have we been governed by mere “politicians” since Kennedy, or have we had the occasional leader?

    Purveyor

  • sparducks

     Startin’ to look that way, isn’t it?

  • Anonymous

     You are ignorant. Huma Abedin was raised in Saudi Arabia by Islamist extremists between the ages of 2 and 19. She came to the US after 19 yrs of age, had lots of money and got embedded in the government by the Clintons. Other than it is reported that she is a practicing Muslim and she is married to that idiot Weiner,, we know NOTHING about her

  • Anonymous

    Ricardo Davila,
    YOU have no credibility. Huma Abedin was raised by radical islamists in Saudi Arabia between the age of 2-19. AS THE TWIG IS BENT, so grows the tree. Guilt by allegiance….it is a valid presumption and is evidence. Lots of questions about her, where all her money came from, her joined at the hip relationship with Clinton, that weird marriage to the idiot Weiner and the report she is a “practicing Muslim:

  • Draxx

    If it were up to me she would be the VP of the choices available to us…

  • sparducks

     Maybe an occasional devil too. this time.

  • HeretoSpeak

    Great post!

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    Liberalism and taking back our great country.

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    must support one another in this critical battle for our nation!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TTzFwkEgQc&feature=youtu.be

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    God bless you and
    our nation!

  • sparducks

     I used to tell my bro in az that Mccain for some reason liked to stick his finger in the eyes of repubs, and therefore I wouldnt vote for him. But I did. Now what the hell is this all about. I’ll bet when he was flyin jets off of aircraft carriers he wanted every swingin’ d### on that ship vetted. I’m thinking these idiots should all get fired.  and az ought to retire McCain. How did an old salt like him end up in Az anyhow. I don’t think he golfs.

  • sparducks

     don’t start.

  • sparducks

     Interesting assertion. It does cause me to raise an eyebrow. At least its time to put him out to pasture.

  • sparducks

     absolute shite.

  • Anonymous

    How come you never ask me these heady questions?
    ;D

  • Anonymous

    Nevermind. You two cartoon characters are way above my comfort zone.

  • Guest

    Hey,I asked questions about this and you just blew me off… ;-)

  • sparducks

     Are you fn serious? And who gives a shite? The Muslim brotherhood is consolidating power all over the Middle east. I dare say syria is next. That will be aweful. And I dont know if you’ve kept up with current events but sharia law is on the menu of their ideology. Yeah let’s just close our eyes and hope their are no MB operatives in the state dept. And besides that these jerk offs in the congress have busied themselves with the stupidest shite for the last twenty years. It’s about time for a good old witch hunt. I’ll fn bet we find some witches. And maybe some A$$hole can write a fn play about it, and give progressives in education some more horseshite to shovel down our kids throats. Seriously? You think this is gonna drive voters to Obama? Not. Mccain has been pullin this shite for fn years. And boner or baner whatever. Grow a nutsack. I hate it when the repubs get in office and damn near break their backs to bend over backwards to try to get the moderate or independant vote. That’s the fn problem. Now if lieberman brought this stuff up I’ll bet you’d be all over it. Independents won’t even be paying att. Romney will lose on his own. If he loses. Don’t go blamin Bachman.

  • sparducks

     Cuz they’re all snortin fn coke and smokin pot with BHO.

  • Anonymous

    If I may throw in my two cents, I think we have had one or two leaders, a definite politician and one who hasn’t a clue and is obviously a puppet. The others are/were fence walkers.

  • Anonymous

    When? I stepped away from the computer for awhile. I’m back for a little bit. What did I miss?

  • Anonymous

    Well, now that you asked, I am working on a thesis/theory/Book I call “Neutral Principle,” whereby law and legislation follows a strict process of reason as opposed to emotion.

    For instance, what is the difference between ethics and morals and which would you prefer to have our government rely on when adjudicating and legislating?

    I suggest that ethics come from the mind and the intellect, whereas morals are born of the conscience, the heart and emotion? Furthermore, if you read our Constitution you will see reason pervading over emotion… BUT, law predicated on reason will inadvertently satisfy our moral inclinations, it’s a matter of which should predominate Governance?

    SPARDUCKS, seems to be a religious man and I find a closer affinity with him than I do Godless Socialists! LOL BUT, I believe that Conservatives such as myself and STARDUCKS understand that America is egalitarian and pluralistic, (just look at the original 13 Colonies) hence, I hope in time STARDUCKS might see my intentions and purpose as positive…

    –Is that “heady” enough?

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Do you think history will view Reagan, Bush, Clinton, and Bush as “leaders?”

    Certainly, history will not be kind to Carter. Obama? I seriously believe that his Presidency has the potential for the decline and fall of our Nation!

  • sparducks

     Here’s a heady question for you mommagrizzley: If you  call yourself a panther should your banner don a house cat? And purse seiner 1 is partly right about sparducks. But I’ll betcha can’t guess how I chose my name. I love you both though. It’s been some stimulating conversation.

  • sparducks

     Oh I would like to debate your subsequent musings.

  • http://twitter.com/alKidya Kim Bruce

    I agree 100% with Michelle Bachmann andI only wishshe hadgone a bit further. There are more Muslim Brotherhood fish to fry inside this administration, Huma Abedein being just one of them.
    The Muslim Brotherhood is more dangerous than the Nazis of old, and they are working wthin the State Department, the DOJ, the FBI, and Homeland Security.
    Would even a Franklin Delanore Roosevelt  have a Nazi working anywhere within his administration? I doubt that very much.
    I only wish more Senators and Congressmen would get behind this gutsy woman. Hats off to Michelle for putting her political career on the line.

    Let’s all get behind her. Write your representatives.

  • Anonymous

    I look forward to it as philosophy cannot stand alone, it must be challenged! I am a student of Plato and dialectic philosophy, meaning the best method of learning is through dialogue and robust debate. Also I am proponent of applied philosophy, rather than leaving such buried in the halls of academe, I bring the great philosophes and their ideas to relate such to current events.

    Don’t forget, the Founders were products of the age of enlightenment and reason. They had all seen the misery spawned by the “Divine Right Of Kings as well as the Church?” (Of course they had not witnessed Communism!)

    I may have made some incorrect assumptions about you personally, but I meant no offense and please understand my treatise is meant to be a positive influence.

    Vaya con Dios Amigo

  • Anonymous

    People should deluge these weak kneed brown nosers with emails and phone calls and send them a message..
    We stand with Bachmann…and it would be advisable for them do the same.
    McCain should have retired after he made a fool of himself during his joke of a presidential campaign.

  • Anonymous

     Yes, and where’s Allen West?????

    Why isn’t he standing up with Michelle Bachmann I wonder …
    isn’t he the one that came out a couple months ago and told us that there was 80 commies in the WH!!
    I sure hope he stands with Michelle…..
    I’ll tell you what if November ever gets here we need to remove them ALLLLLLLL!!!
    They are liars, thieves, and greedy, corrupt pieces of ……

  • Anonymous

    isn’t this Huma married to ex-congressman Weiner?

  • Anonymous

     I disagree. People will still vote for Romney,but they will also make it a point to try and oust the fake republicans or the spineless twits that occupy Congress. Personally if I lived in Boehners district,I would be tempted to vote for his opponent to ensure that he loses his speakership position. Is Bonehead Boehner up for reelection in November?

  • Anonymous

     Yes, she is.  And she, her mother and brother are radical muslims.  I recently learned that Senator John McCain is a card carrying member of CAIR, an active muslim organization.  He and John Boehner had objected to Backmann’s accusations about Abedin, which makes me suspect where their true loyalties lie. Is there anyone left in our Congress who are true patriots?

  • Anonymous

    Can’t make my own comment, snow, so pardon me for piggybacking on yours.

    Is Bachmann being intimidated?   Is that why those who have made remarks which the

    administration deems as ”unfriendly” find the need to ”walk back” what they said?

    I’m speaking of C. Booker, the mayor of Trenton (?), NJ, and the more recent one from

    Senator D. Feinstein, who yesterday said the intel leaks appeared to come from the

    WH.   Today, she said she wasn’t implying that the Prez had done it.  Since she is a

    powerful Dem., perhaps, it was just ”suggested” that she ”soften” her remark?

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    I am shocked and appalled that you of all people would be threatening
    Michele Bachmann for doing a job you are too chicken shit to do when it comes to the Muslim Brotherhood. Are YOU the enemy within as well? It sure the hell looks like it when you support a terrorist group given ALL THE EVIDENCE YOU ARE IGNORING and threaten a fellow congresswoman for her merely bringing the TRUTH TO LIGHT!

    I expect YOU to apologize for your ignorance OR you just need to watch your back. All traitors and domestic terrorists will get theirs. If this country goes the way I see it going, you are in serious trouble.

    You are all complacent or an accomplice to the fact the we know NOTHING about our own president and what’s worse is, we know it but you deny that he is NOT ELIGIBLE to be in that position. Where are all his records while he is screaming for one lousy tax year from Mitt Romney?

    Where are you asking the most obvious question as this to that fraud in chief?

    Our gvt has gone to hell in a hand basket thanks to the likes of you.

    Disrespectfully, (because you deserve none)
    Nina Soli

    p.s. Your drop down list has several duplicate subject titles.
    Unbelievable how many utterly incompetent people we have in gvt like you.(this was for McCain’s website)

  • Anonymous

     I think that spineless traitor Boehner was elected in 2010 so I believe he has 2 more years…ugh…
    Arizona needs to get rid of McCain in November ..if we see November!

    I read in some blogs about Boehner a year or so ago and have a friend from Texas that was in the Tea Party in 2010 and she said that she quit because the “speakers” for the Tea Party got bought out and that’s how Boehner got elected…

    Don’t shoot the messager I’m only telling you what my friend and some bloggers said back then.  So since then I’ve never gone back on the Tea Party’s blogs.

    I don’t follow groups when I vote I do my own research and vote my self.
    These days you just can’t seem to trust anymore..

    I think they should of all been walked out …YESTERDAY!!

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if a 3rd party is going to jump in the race in August….

  • Anonymous

     I do too!  I think probably everyone is going to oust as many as we can from both sides of the isle.
    Someone posted on another site names of all the known commies a couple months ago I copied it and that’s how I’m voting.

  • Anonymous

    I also think that people are going to vote for Romney and after he gets in office if he turns out to be the same type of person as the one in there, then I think people will go throw him out on his butt because PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THIS CRAP.. don’t think anyone would wait another 4 years and go through this again..JMO

    We really do need to stand with Michelle Bachmann if I’m understanding this situation right she is one brave lady and we need to back her 1000% if not for her for our selves and our families, and our country.  May God be with her and all of us thru the disaster that is about to happen..

  • w. Parker

    That would be “all” democraps…  I’d vote for the worst republican before voting democrap

  • Poison_ Monkey

    ditto 

  • Anonymous

    Is everybody in bed sleeping??  Seems just about every night I come on here no one’s here..lol..

  • Anonymous

     Me too!!! 

  • Anonymous

    I would NEVER EVER vote for ANY democraps….

  • Anonymous

    How do we replace Panetta anyone know??

  • http://www.facebook.com/otakuraf Rafael Torres

    I’m not going to let radical progressives stop me from speaking or citing the truth. Glenn Beck is not going to let some radical progressives from speaking the truth nor will Michelle Bachman or anyone else. I am getting sick of the PC machine that is endangering the lives of people like Lara Logan, Natasha Smith, or others. It is the progressives that should be afraid of US that are speaking the truth and when we are united. We’re not going to let anybody stop us from getting the truth out!

  • Anonymous

    And how about this Glenn.. Look how many “B” Billions he staff owes in back taxes!
    we could collect and pay down the debit…if anyone was honest to pay..

     
    Tax-cheating Obama Staffers Owe How Much In Back Taxes??

    July 19, 2012 By Derrick Hollenbeck 8 Comments

    If you have ever been hauled into an Internal Revenue Service office for an audit, think about that feeling as you read this.

    According to a new IRS report, Barack Obama is harboring at least three dozen tax cheats right
    on his own staff! Together, this bunch has made a joke of Obama’s
    shopworn line about the “rich paying their fair share of taxes.” They
    owe a collective $833,970 in back taxes – and we thought liberals were
    patriotic! These aren’t “little people”; they must be well-paid (with
    our money) and well-educated to be where they are.

    More than one in three of Obama’s royal staff makes over $100,000 a
    year, and his entire staff of 457 people makes over 37 million dollars
    each year.  Twenty-one make almost as much as a Congressman! And the tax
    cheats aren’t just in the White House. An IRS report says the aggregate
    amount owed to the IRS by all federal employees is a stunning $3.4
    BILLION, which is an increase of 3% just since last year.

    Some of these people actually work in the offices that write the tax
    laws they themselves are disregarding! That bunch owes over $2 million,
    and 4,697 Homeland Security employees collectively owe around $37
    million. What’s worse is that 1,181 TREASURY DEPARTMENT workers – the
    people in the IRS – owe $9.3 million!

    Clearly, Attorney General Eric Holder doesn’t care about the tax
    cheats who work for him. The IRS report says 2,069 employees of his
    Department of Justice owe more than $17 million. That’s our money!

    Federal law says those who are guilty of income tax evasion – what we
    put Al Capone away for – are felons who could serve up to five years in
    prison.

    So Barack Obama, the guy with the “most transparent” administration in history, has thousands of employees that are tax cheats.

    Right now, according to federal law,
    the only federal workers who can be fired for tax delinquency are
    Internal Revenue Service employees.  I’m sure few of us find that
    comforting.

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/tax-cheating-obama-staffers-owe-how-much-in-back-taxes/

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001849874103 Jamie Newman

    If she was that radical would she have married a Jew? I don’t think she’s a radical muslim at all. I think she’s an American Citizen and not too worried about her family. Frank Gaffney a former Reagan defense official is a conspiracy theorist who thinks everyone muslim or married to a muslim is part of “the brotherhood” . The FBI has discredited Mr Gaffney but in this age of social networking lies often become the accepted norm.

  • Anonymous

    Rafael, I was being sarcastic in your favor. Obviously, I do not want you to tone it down or bow to progressives. I thought you would pick up on my sarcasm.

  • Anonymous

    The point is you don’t know. She is in a position to know national security secrets. She should be properly vetted. For heaven sakes, the president is using the IRS to go after Romney supporters, but Michele, who is part of the defense council, can’t request a legal vetting? Hoe messed up is that?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ON2Z7MOMPOYPUR7XHUPZZ4CQM4 joey babe

    Ricky,Thank you for your post.   “Lunacy,McCarthyism, promote hatred, crazy dingbat, these nuts.”  You appear to have a PhD in Saul Alinsky’s  commie reference book,” Rules For Radicals” jargon. You people are so transparent.I would guess you all have a minor degree in mendacity,as well…..Yuk!

  • sparducks

     Without reading the volumes of writings(think of the trees) and spending a fortune on education I have come to the conclusion that yes reason must be used when legislating(in a dream world). But what one man thinks as ethics or code of conduct is perhaps another man’s morality. You can not separate the man out of the equation. For laws to govern men they must be applied by moral men. A law based on reason can be used as a weapon by a tyrant just as easy as capricious fiat. For instance ; a friend was sold some second hand electronics that he thought were legitimate. the price was not so low as to raise concern. But he bought some for himself and facilitated the purchases of friends for more units. He was arrested. receiving stolen property is a felony. He was facing 5 years in prison. Being diabetic and having a heart condition he probably would have died there. The DA went through great lengths, quite diabolical I might add to get a plea bargain from him. Coercing the thief to testify against my friend. He plead guilty when he was innocent. Is this justice. The law that says receiving stolen property is a felony is quite reasonable. But this men the DA and the Detective lied and used bully tactics and their office to put an innocent man in jail. These men are not interested in justice. While you ponder weighty matters like this and search for truth men like this search for fame power and money. Do not find yourself sitting in a court room defending yourself from your reasonable laws. They are beasts and the courtroom is their jungle.  You will not win. Unless you can hire a lawyer of equal skill and bravado.
    Reason and logic are attributes of God, if you follow reason to it’s conclusion. Yes reason should dictate legislation. But passion and fire should drive men to apply the law out of love. Love for his fellow man, who left alone to defend himself and his freedom from local tyrants who ,see him as not a man but another conviction on their resume, would stand a better chance in a cage full of hungry lions. Oh men are wicked, remember that while cogitating these lofty themes of yours. The police are not there to protect your rights or you. They are there to arrest you and gather evidence. Do not call them if you can help it.
    That said I am a peaceful law abiding man. And men must be governed. The government of a mans heart is the best. A heart that loves his neighbor and pities the poor and oppressed. A heart that is a rudder to steer a man and his companions in the ways of truth. Do you not agree?

  • Anonymous

    You believe Beck’s endorsement of Bachmann discredits her why? Because you have a herd mentality and believe what ever CNN, CBS, ABC and so forth tell you. If you took a moment you would see Beck is one of the very few who cite where he gets his information. He is well connected with historians as well as ministers from all faiths. He spends his time researching, studying, debating in search for the truth. In regards to Bachmann she is in the House of Represntatives with the task of defending this nation from those who can hurt us. Anyone who has worked for a defense contractor who will handle TOP SECRET information must get a TOP SECRET Clearance. They call all the folks who know you and want to know if you have ever left this country and if you ever visited countries that have communist or facist ties. If you have family in these countries or friends then it is safe to say there is almost a 100% chance you are not going to get the clearance. Bacmann simply asked that she be properly vetted. If she were, then there would be a good chance they would have to find a position for her where she is not privy to information that is sensitive to our National Security. So, what does this have with restoring love? You can’t use common sense to defend your nation? You say Michele Bachmann is a lunatic for wanting to Vett a possible threat? Burying your head in the sand pretending there is no threat against our nation from Muslims is lunatic. Our country has had several planes hijacked, but I do not believe Israel has had one hijacked? Israel knows who is trying to destroy her, and has no problem with profiling. Israel doesn’t search six year old girls and 93 year old grandma’s. Where are you defending all the progressives in this country who abuse women and children because they are afraid to profile. If I were to define lunatic, I could do t in one word and that would be “PROGRESSIVE.”

  • Anonymous

    Didn’t you say earlier that you lacked a formal education? Anyway, my compliments as your comment, both form and substance is very good! Also, I sympathize with anyone’s unfortunate foray into America’s “Legal” system. (not “Justice” system) I too have been there…

    I suggest that you too are searching for neutral principle, but don’t know it by that name? Think of NP as “equal protection” or “due process.” (Respectfully, I am not being condescending) Your entire comment is comprised of the words of a man looking for a solution, and I offer one. “Offering a solution” are words that sound much like those of some nefarious characters throughout history, but I am NOT offering ME as the “solution,” rather, I suggest a consistent, verifiable process for governance as well as simple human interaction. YET, does NOT abandon our religious inclinations. (actually satisfies and protects our religious beliefs).

    Interesting that two people who started off so controversially, are now showing respect and interest in each others thoughts? With appropriate respect, I would like to take a bit more time to further answer your questions as well as offer historical analogies. So, I’ll get back to you tonight.

    Suffice to say, I believe we are both Patriotic Americans who are frustrated? Also, I am Tea Party

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    And that, purveyor, would play right into the hands of Satan.Or you not believe?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UQAKYBBTMHQWGUA3525EZ5B7ZI Shawn T

    I think it is getting very close to the time when we need to establish a party that represents the Constitution and Conservatism. It is evident  that the Republicans (most of them anyway) in D.C. have gone over to the dark side.

  • sparducks

    Actually I had some classes years ago in Criminal Justice, while testing for LAPD. And the constitution is a relatively easy document to comprehend. One needs no formal education to see that his fellow man is endowed with rights. I know what equal protection and due process are. I also know all about court procedure and the truth can be supressed by the rules of evidence. There is no solution to stopping evil men hell bent on rising above their peers. Except by voting. That vote must also have teeth. And really the carreer politician is the enemy of the people imho. I look forward to your next post. I will be travelling though so may not be able to respond. I am unafiliated. cheers.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LIC7NYCE3W6CXIKO4XV2OHKUTA Diane B

    Mrs. Bachmann never “accused” anybody of anything and she is one of the few in power who is actually concerned with America’s future and security.  Abedin’s links to the brother hood, sister hood and other extremist organizations were brought to light when her husband was se xting pics of himself all over the place.  Before this, she was under the radar.  We absolutely need to be overly cautious of who occupies strategic powerful positions of this country but then again we have somebody in the highest office that nobody has definitive information on and not a thing has been done about it.  I am certain that Abedin is just one of thousands of questionable characters that have access to national security information and I’m not so certain that the likes of Clinton, Holder,etc. aren’t in on the endgame of destroying America…….who wouldn’t want to topple and take over the most powerful country in the world, especially when you come from a third world country?   Think about it……….

  • Anonymous

    I am sorry for my tardy response.  Apparently Disqus does not inform me of replies from Beck’s web-site.  Furthermore, I have no context for your retort, which comment of mine are you displeased with?

    Anyway, quote:

    “It is not theology that distorts reality.  It is stupid people who distort theology”

    An interesting thought, indeed.  Could you provide some historical examples to substantiate your point?

    Purveyor

  • http://www.facebook.com/mas512 Mary Ann Schmidt

    Cong Bachmann is one of very few true patriots in that cesspool called Wash DC. I am outraged that Spkr Boehner, a fellow Ohioan, would censure her. He will be my representative (?) as of Nov because of redistricting. I refused to put is election sign in my yard. The rhinos have mistreated her for at least 2 years. I wish she were Speakerof the House! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/otakuraf Rafael Torres

    I have a hard time tellng sarcasim; I’m autistc.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nancy.n.hanson Nancy Nelson Hanson

    But he is a muslim!  Did you not hear him about the 911 rant and crying like a baby!  so we now have a Muslim, Comic, and did have a Wrestler voted in! What is wrong with Minnesota!
    We need Bachmann to stand her ground!

  • Anonymous

    Bachmann is done. She better watch it because there might be another liberal gunner out there waiting for his chance to spread Hope And Change…

  • Anonymous

    Something went wrong when I posted my reply and it did not link to your comment to Alnga when you used ad hominem calling her David Koresh, Charlie Manson etc.
    As far as theology examples, try your references to David Koresh et al, and look to Hitler’s distortion of Christianity as a tool for his agenda, also Marx, or did you not know he was educated in Catholic school and wrote many rather sound theological treatises.
    BTW, theology is philosophy. Islam has no coherent or rational philosophy or theology, just an agenda of control, submission or death.

  • Anonymous

    Who knows what she is or isn’t? I don’t know why you bring up Gaffney-I don’t know of or heard anything he has to say. I did research years ago and became very concerned about the joined at the hip to Clinton relationship and tried to find out about her. Being born here hardly matters to her training and education. You apparently forget about the American citizens who became radical Muslims and became terroists.
    Huma Abedin was raised by radical islamists in Saudi Arabia between the age of 2-19. AS THE TWIG IS BENT, so grows the tree. Guilt by allegiance….it is a valid presumption and is evidence. Lots of questions about her, where all her money came from, her joined at the hip relationship with Clinton, that weird marriage to the idiot Weiner and the report she is a “practicing Muslim:

  • Anonymous

    Don’t forget the Ft Hood Massacre, which has been deemed by government officials as “WORK PLACE VIOLENCE”  in order to maintain plausible deniability that there are radical islamists who have infiltrated every aspect of our government from the top down. The ‘pc’ meme is an all-encompassing term to cover lazy politicians, government officials and the news media when they have failed to properly vet personnel. When CNN replaced established News Anchors with Fareed Zakaria on the foreign affairs ‘desk’, who also had Barry’s ear, that was the moment CNN lost credibility for me. When Al Jazeera is the first word that pops up on a Bing search with the first two letters ‘a’ and ‘l’, it IS time to take a close look at what is going on with the infiltration of radical islamists into our government, or country, our communities.

  • Anonymous

    HANDSOFF,

    Your pedantic sarcasm is unnecessary as I am sure you are aware of my intellect. Furthermore, I am still somewhat blind as to the subjects context as I need to find “ALGNA”s original post. Regardless, there is a difference between an analogy and an ‘ad hominem.’ “Or did you not know” that?

    Thus, given my well used and effective argumentation tactics, meaning I seldom use ‘ad hominem’, thus stand by my analogies with or without seeing “ALGNA’s ” post.

    Your new friend:

    The Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    To Purveyor1 – I wanted to answer your question below. Ethics is “Right” and “Wrong.” Morality is how we Judge  “Right” and “Wrong” and “Emotions” is a third element that can be discussed all on its own merit.

  • Anonymous

    ha ha

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scott-Ryan-Anderson/1315789849 Scott Ryan Anderson

    It is time for John Boehner to go.  Conservatives in Congress must remove him.  Allen West would be a good replacement.  The days of the Trent Lotts & John Boehners got us nothing but mysery and bankruptcy because of their propensity toward betrayal.  http://www.ThurstonHowell.net

    If we cannot radically reform the tax system now, we never will.  The Boehners and McCains of the GOP have assured us that any meaningful reform is too extreme.  They are part of the disease.  If they are not removed, destruction is assured.  Secession will be that last means of protection for those fortunate enough to live in one of the God Fearing States of America.It will happen if we keep doing what we’ve been doing for the past decades since Reagan left office.  Romney sliiped through only because we have no run off elections requiring a majority in the primaries.  The “tea party” conservative candidates are sweeping the congress BECAUSE those elections cannot be managed by the media the way theGOP presidential primary race routinely is – every 4 years.

    So the revolution continues in the congress as we purge out these RINO imposters.  Romney will be held in check as we do not need him to be the standard bearer for conservatism.  We just need him to not obstruct or veto conservativism.

    West is a true leader who doesn’t back down from any fight and the media fear him because he exposes their foolishness by his superior intellect and confidence in his rectitude.   

  • Anonymous

     More Support -Conclusion from J. Lord’s article on this subject in American Spectator
    “What’s happening with this skirmish over Huma Abedin is no (Joe)
    McCarthyite effort to drive an innocent woman from public life.
    What’s being asked, again to quote Andy McCarthy, is whether “the
    State Department’s dramatic, Brotherhood-friendly policy shifts
    during Ms. Abedin’s tenure as a top adviser to the State
    Department’s boss” are the result of anything whatsoever reflecting
    Abedin’s factual family connections with the ideals of the Muslim
    Brotherhood. Family connections that John McCain would surely
    describe as the influence of Abedin’s “ways” as “shaped and
    enriched” by her father, mother, and brother.

    All Bachmann and company are asking, says McCarthy, “is
    completely consistent with national-security guidelines… that an
    investigation into those policy shifts be undertaken.”

    Bachmann and her colleagues were absolutely right to ask these
    questions.

    The real questions here are two:

    First: What is the role of Washington Establishment cronyism in
    the defense of Huma Abedin? Is John McCain the new Dean
    Acheson?

    Second: Is the Republican Establishment repeating the same
    failed strategy in dealing with Islamic Supremacism that they long
    adopted during the Cold War when facing Communism? A losing
    strategy that was finally reversed by Ronald Reagan? Reagan, of
    course, having been viewed for decades by the Republican
    Establishment as an “extremist” — to quote former GOP President
    Gerald Ford from march of 1980.

    The furious attacks on Michele Bachmann over Huma Abedin — by
    Senator McCain, Speaker Boehner and Chairman Rodgers — certainly
    seem to indicate nothing but trouble ahead.

    Why?

    Because they are inevitably backfiring.

    Raising the obvious question. With all that the question implies
    about both the Muslim Brotherhood — and the Washington and
    Republican Establishments:

    Is Huma Abedin the new Alger Hiss?

  • w. Parker

    Your intellect and argumentation tactics can take a flying leap.  I’ve never seen a more pompous or conceited prankster on this site as yourself.  While attending college, there were two groups that stood out like a sore thumb for their strange dress, ideas and actions – - Philosophy/Art majors. 

  • Anonymous

    PARKER,

    Curious how you do not seem bothered by HANDSOFF’s quite evident, “pedantic sarcasm,” yet my intellectual confidence annoys you?

    By the way, did you graduate from that College of yours, or just “attend?” Also, what was your GPA? Ouch!

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    I was not aware that I was being sarcastic or pedantic nor do I care that you think I am aware of your intellect, though if I am aware, I doubt I have such a high opinion of your “intellect” as do you.
    I am aware of what an analogy is and I also know that an analogy can be used ad hominem, though I do not accept that saying Algna’s post sounded like D. Koresh, Charlie Manson….was an analogy in any respect. However you want to characterize your attributions, and interpret the comment, it is an attack an ad hominem, a argumentation fallacy. I found it as I said illogical, irrelevant and sounding like the typical liberal two step. If what you wrote is an “analogy”, then what I wrote is also, not pedantic sarcasm. But, if I was pedantically sarcastic, then you are also. I say your posts speak volumes, not about your self vaunted intellect, but your need to make others feel inferior if only in your own head.

  • w. Parker

    Right on…

  • Anonymous

    How about a nice game of chess?

  • Anonymous

    Nicely done, well written!

    Do you really think I am a liberal?  Heck, I’ve been to “Tail Gunner Joe’s” gravesite in Appleton Wisconsin.  Old Joe was right, the Government, (including Alger Hiss) was chocked full of Communists.

    Only now we have Commies and Muslims.  We do have our hands full, don’t we?

    Purveyor

    I still can’t find ALGNA’s original post?

  • Anonymous

    Hi Purveyor, let me answer one of your other questions first. From my experience the way I see Ethics is that it is “Right” and “Wrong.” Morality is how we judge “Right” and “Wrong” and “Emotions” is a third element that can literally stand on its own.

    Your second question: A politician is someone who may influence public policy or even create public policy so anyone who is successfully influencing another person is acting as a leader. Hitler was a leader, Stahlin was a leader, Mao was a leader, but they lead people in a direction that benefitted the leader and enslaved the proletariat.

    Remember, philosophy can help us learn or lead us to destruction. Plato came from wealth and, I believe, a very politically active family. In those days, intelligence was measured by how well you could argue your points. Learning was inhanced by asking questions about everything and then trying to reason them out. Unfortunately, philosophy has become polluted like art. Today, someone can paint a white canvas white and pawn it off as art for 2 or 3 million dollars. Philosophy has become as big a joke when we try to argue the obvious and call it philosophy. I personally like philosophy because it encourages me to seek out more information, and learn more about a subject, but then it becomes like a testimony where what I learn belongs to me. I earned it by studying. It did not come free. In the scriptures it counsels us not to cast pearls to swine. When you gain a testimony, it comes at a great deal of work and energy. You read the scripures, you cross reference, you go to other books such as, “Desire of the Everlasting Hills” or “Walk with Abraham,” you begin to realize that the bible is made up of real characters. You read actual documents that Matthew or Saul/Paul wrote. You begin to pick up on their personalities and then you are struck with information that completes a question you have been pondering for years. You can share your findings, but it does not have the same impact on those who have not earned the right to that information. Often times it is ridiculed or belittled. The bible is one of the most fascinating books. It is often written in parables so that you do not understand what is being said unless you have properly prepared yourself through study and prayer. You can’t really understand the bible unless you study history of the times or understand the prevailing attitudes.

  • Anonymous

    I finally found “ALGNA’s” original comment, that which initiated all this vitriol?

    Quote:

    “I have believed for a long time that we are in the last generation before this all ends” so prepare for HIS coming… Those words are the words of a “dooms day cult.” Take your pick as even Judeo-Christians have such.

    That quote could easily be the ramblings of Marshall Applewaite, David Koresh, or Charles Manson. That is a valid analogy based on learned study and observation, not an ad hominem attack as you suggest.

    Now, about that game of chess?

  • Anonymous

    Who are you? (said the smoking caterpillar)

    Your comment has much to cogitate on. You seem to tip toe in and around ideas that I suspect, we share. I’d like to some time before I respond as you’ve covered a lot ground?

    Will respond a bit later. Nice to make your acquaintance.

    Purveyor

  • w. Parker

    The first Law of Phlosophy:  For every philosopher, there exists an equal and opposite philosopher
    The Second Law of Philosophy: They’re both wrong…
    To answer your previous question, yes i graduated, and i don’t make it a point to “rub” the fact that i have a degree in anyone’s face.  A college degree is not exactly a prerequisite for sainthood.  “Your reputation; your philosophical questions; your intellectual confidence- – Bla-bla-bla, who are you attempting to impress?–you are a pompous, conceited, condescending egotist and BS artist
    My move…

  • Anonymous

    She is the bravest and most intelligent woman in Washington. I admire her very much.
    Her colleagues are weak by comparison. What a shame they don’t stand behind her. 

  • sparducks

    I hoped you would like that.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps a game of “Chutes and Ladders,” or “Candyland?”

  • http://www.facebook.com/otakuraf Rafael Torres

    MommaGrizzley, now that you mention it, the PC meme is why the stories that I mentioned in my previous post are not being covered that much. And did you also know that Al Jazeera covered up the story of the gang-rape of Lara Logan of the liberal CBS and is also a correspondant for the ultra-liberal 60 Minutes of which she still works in? The story was PC’d so much that even her interview with 60 Minutes was PC’d http://www.mediaite.com/tv/lara-logan-reveals-details-of-her-attack-on-60-minutes/ You won’t hear a single thing about Radical Islam or its violence against women in her interview. Did you know that the coverage of her gang-rape was scant by CBS and the other MSM networks? This tragic story, which is NOT being talked that much, has made it to number 200 of the 1001 reasons to vote Obama out of office in additon to the PC of the Ft. Hood Massacre. http://www.conservativedailynews.com/2012/06/1001-reasons-to-vote-against-barack-obama-complete-edition/ By the way, share the list with your anti-Obama friends.

  • Anonymous

    “Prankster?” Ever read “the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, by Tom Wolff? I particularly enjoyed the chapter when the Hells Angels came to visit the Merry “Pranksters.”

  • Anonymous

    Actually, there is a “first law of philosophy” and its not your proposals.

    Socrates said: (in Greek of course) “gnothi sautan” (Know thyself)

    Also, I’d like to point out that you brought up undergraduate education, not me? However, I am proud of the fact that my education and intellect is so evident.

    Thank you!

  • Anonymous

    Her rape was ‘covered’ minimally on FOX. I’m surprised she still works for CBS. I don’t bother with the propaganda networks anymore and have begun to not take too much of Fox seriously, as I think they are stradling the fence to the dark side–at least some of their anchors. Anyway, Logan’s rape didn’t get much play on Fox, but enough to know that what went on in Egypt was a manufactured coup, sponsored by the O admininistration, funded by the US taxpayer and every bit illegal as the Libya non-war and ouster of Qaddafi. And yet they are sitting on their asses about Syria where they have more reason to go in for civil rights violations reasons that in Egqypt and Libya combined. PC is more of a meme to hide behind, avoid and obfuscate. The Demonrat double speak is another tactic to confuse the masses. I think it is interesting that Hillary was in Eqypt recently chatting it up with the MB and had her car pummelled. What is she doing there in the first place?

  • sparducks

    squoooze me, let me crowd in here, Uh folks this is complete BULLSHA8. What the hell do these freaking congressmen think there job is? To fn protect some damn bimbo in clintons staff? Why can’t McCain and Boner Just tell Hillary to fire the bitch? What’s the big deal. why they shovin this no namer on us? fire her today Hill. that’s what I don’t get, and it took a good bottle of my wife’s chardonais to pry it from me.

  • Anonymous

    She’s Anthony Weiner’s wife! Remember the whining weenie wagger?

  • sparducks

    I would like to erect a shrine in my study with a bust of you as the centerpice flanked by plato and socrotes. with an eternal candle burning under a print of that potrait of Cyrus the Great. Any Ideas. Of course……I’ve been drinking.

  • w. Parker

    There wasn’t an option to reply to your most recent post to purveyor1, but i cannot stop laughing since reading it.  It is too dang funny!  lol

  • Anonymous

    “I’ve been drinking, so I know I’m right” (Ed, one of my old and best friends) LOL

    “I’m about to enter the on ramp to the road to ruin” (Ed)

    Even a blue collar Union man like “Ed” can have philosophic moments!

    That was an, um, er, interesting comment to read first thing in the morning! Ouch!

  • Anonymous

    With all due respect, meaning none, you are responding without relevance or logic and this is NOT analogy, but it is ad hominem. If you are as “intellectual” as you claim, you should not, even for purposes of advancing your supposed intelligence and knowledge, characterize alnga’s comment as similar to or a bit like psychotic weirdos. You lost what little credibility you may have gained  (though I doubt you have any) by so doing.  Your comment about theology is suspect. Theology/philosophy is/are the expressed thoughts of individuals, based on their reason, logic or lack thereof, in order to make sense of existence and origin. We don’t have a choice of philosophy or no philosophy, but only good philosophy/theology or bad. Theology/philosophy does not distort reality; people do, through bad philosopy/theology.
    alnga stated no theology or opinion that deserves any part of your comments as written.
    Where you might have questioned alnga was the comment that stated the “Muslim in the WH”. There is no proof that BO is a muslim; however a Muslim sympathizer/apologist would be a supportable, logic conclusion. Algna’s first statement was accurate and muslim “theology” which does distort reality as employed by radical Muslims.
    Stop trying to promote yourself and contribute to the thread on support for or opposition to, Bachman et al on the issue.

  • Anonymous

    Reagan was a leader who restored us, for awhile, to a considerable extent, back to what I conceive to be constitutional principles and freedom. He certainly restored US prominence on the world scene. Remember “We WIN, they lose”. Frankly, accomodation NEVER works to our advantage.
    Roosevelt may have been a leader, but he was a progressive and did serious damage to, deliberately to, the founding principles of theDeclaration of Independence/Constitution.
    Kennedy was inspiring, but towards socialism.
    Nixon for all his faults and Watergate, at least started his political career  weeding out the communists in the WH and State Department. Remember the spy Alger Hiss, so vehemently defended by the progressives/moderates?
    Get back on the subject, purveyor. Stop deflecting. Muslim extremists and sympathizers are now the danger Communists once were. Support Bachman et al, or come up with a rational reason why not.
    I believe she is the new leader we need, at least to cleaning up the executive branch.

  • Anonymous

    No I don’t think you are a liberal, just at the one instance, you were typically liberal logic, oxymoron.  You do deflect, obfuscate and try to be clever and “stimulate debate” to the detriment of your own argument and credibility.
    I found the post of Algna and was able to reply to you on that one, so you will have my (combined) reply again.
    Going to a psycho’s grave does not absolve you from  liberal leanings or lack of logic. There were communists, but he didn’t find them and did much harm, aided and abetted by Kennedy. It took Nixon to oust Hiss and still it is taught in our socialist schools that Hiss was unfairly railroaded.
    Agree, we have the commie’s, and the Muslims are now the worst threat to our constitution, aided and abetted by the muddled progressives in the WH and the accomodators in the congress. It is black and white, we either win and they lose, or we lose and they win. Support Bachman et al or we lose everything.
    Get back to the subject, man.

  • Anonymous

    “Nicely done, well written!”   Are you referring to the article written by Jeffrey Lord in the American Spectator which I posted above and to which you replied? or my criticism of your response defending your misuse of analogy?

  • Anonymous

    We have become a nation of the innumerate, the illiterate, and the indiscriminate. Oddly, the liberal-progressives(many dems and repub’s alike here) types who comprise the bulk of this group think of themselves as worldly, well-read, and informed. When I question friends and relatives of opposing points of view that are basicly contitutional/conservative they become irrate and irrational. I am labled “statist” (liberal code word for ‘racist’), “tea-party-ite” (progressive code word for ‘dumpy, white, middle-class sheeple’),and (god-forbid) “republican” (democrat code word for’one-percenter”: aka “the new slave-owner class”).
    In truth, I am none of the above. I certainly do not identify as a Democrat. Dems represent the 48-49% that pay no fed taxes, are entitled (SSed, medicar-ed, medicad-ed) ,and doled-out-to(food stamped,disabled, ‘hover-round-ed”, etc.). This is the ever-growing under-class that the Demo-gogues in D.C.forus upon in elections.
    The Republicans represent the 1%-ers (OK, maybe the 1-3%-ers) who pay 40?-50?-60? percent of all income taxes…Never really know! Their contribution percentages swell daily as election date approaches. Truth is, no-one represents the middle 50% of us that do the vast bulk of the work and pay the vast bulk of the taxes. When you include state, county, local,fed, FICA, property, usage,etc…the ‘middle 50%’ pay 60-70% of all taxes.
    Too bad so many of us in the middle feel shafted and ignored.
    Michelle Bachman is one of those voices crying out for some comon sense for the un-represented middle. Too bad she’s a woman…too bad she’s not a Hollywoood type like Obama
    … too bad her lack of politcal-correctness may prove her un-doing

  • Anonymous

     I took your links and responded as follows:
    to both Boehner and McCain:
     You are out of line in your attack on Bachman. Stop the politics of
    accommodation and address the current threat to our constitutional republic
    which mirrors way too exactly the Alger Hiss affair and the communist
    infiltration of the government, specifically the State Department. Today we
    have not just communist influence openly in the executive branch, but policy
    shifts in favor of the clear and present danger of the Muslim brotherhood and
    Islamist radicalism in general. Those policy shifts appear to coincide with the
    embedding of Huma Abedin with Clinton
    in the State Department. Even if born here, she was not raised by US Citizens
    nor raised in the US, but
    raised by radical Muslims in Saudi
    Arabia. Surely their influence on her psyche
    growing up and her adult proclivities and philosophy are fair questions for
    security clearance, which she should not have gotten, given the obvious
    unanswered questions.
    I added this to McCain’s message:
    Have you forgotten your insistence that it is upbringing,
    the morals and ethics that your parents imbue you with that guide and influence
    your behavior, thoughts and morals? You have been making a lot of stupid
    speeches,decisions and have endorsed some very bad bills that you later had to
    withdraw from. You should remake the speech about the influence of upbringing,
    before Congress in your retraction of your stupid and misinformed attack on
    Bachman, and unequivocally state your unmitigated support of an investigation
    into the policy shifts in favor of the radical Islamic agenda and the security
    clearances and vetting of all the State Department. Or, are you the new Dean
    Acheson? Remember Alger HIss? Be a man, an American hero, support Bachman, get
    informed, stop being demented.

  • Anonymous

     Ridiculous question-you assume Bachman’s religious overtones-I didn’t see any in the letter. The center is all about accommodation-can’t get their support for black and white issues without giving up the moral ground and/or the issue at hand. Reagan said it all when he refused to compromise with russia and dilute or reduce American power and strength. “We win. They LOSE!”

  • Anonymous

    My learned study and observation”STill not an analogy but an interpretation and false comparison. Even the devil can quote scripture ie the ones you named, however, I never heard any of them quote or “musings” make any such comment). The words you quoted are mostly from the Bible and even if stupid people misuse them, does not justify you by way of a false comparison calling algna a Manson, et al.
    Stop trying to defend the indefensible ie your misuse of analogy and your obvious bias against those who believe that the end times are here (quoting Revelation). I am not a fanatic, because my “learned study and observation” says it has appeared to be imminent many times, but Algna has good reason to think so. You expressed the same belief politically, that BHO might cause the fall of our country. If he has his way, the Middle East will explode, Israel will be destroyed (Armageddon) Revelations prophecy come to pass. Scripture is not Just a doomsday cult.

  • Anonymous

    Diane, 
    Of course Clinton is, she’s studied and submitted a thesis on Alinsky called ” There Is Only
    the Fight: An analysis of the Alinski Model.”
    She and her husband traveled to then Communist Russia. Holder, Panetta who under any other circumstances (any of them really could Not come close to a low level security clearance, Obama either) choose to defend communists, this was his forte’. 

    Americans need to wake up to the fact these traitors have only one goal, power, the only means to achieve it is the destruction of our Republic, by stripping us of our wealth, re-distributing it to them.

    What makes them think by joining forces with other factions, the Islamic’s will relinquishment
    their objectives? This is not the first time we have been at war with Islam.  During our Founders era, we had been in a struggle with them for a very long period of time; as we advanced in technology, etc., our objectives advanced with it, Islam never veered from their goals-they have always sought to conquer us in the name of their perverted ideology.

  • Anonymous

    Something the media won’t tell you is Romney does NOT have the Delegates, Gary Johnson is on every ballot in 50 states, do you hear about this? No.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent information. Thanks for sharing!

  • Anonymous

    “Here is wisdom, let him that hath knowledge count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is number is Six hundred three score and six.”

  • Anonymous

    HANDS,

    You are not addressing my hypothetical query. Think again, or perhaps view it this way: Are Republicans and/or Conservatives burdened by the religious right and their moral inclinations?

    Concomitantly, if the moral/social Right were given less political weight in the Conservative movement(s), would the Conservatives gain more votes from the moderate center, than lose from the Right?

    These are perfectly reasonable political questions. I don’t know what you find so aggravating about philosophical discourse? THINK about the implications of my questions FIRST, then answer!

    Purveyor

    (Note: You cannot defeat me in debate, however, you could learn from OUR discourse…)

  • Anonymous

    I was referring to the article, but I did not realize that you had posted another’s work. My mistake, or did you fail to make such clear? I’ll have to verify you have given credit where due…

    Purveyor

    Again, Mr. Lord’s work was “well done.”

  • Anonymous

    I am not entirely sure of the continuity of your dialogue regarding the inclusion of Mr.Lord’s article. However,at the very least you should have used quotation marks and/or made it made it clear that you were using another’s work to make your point!

    A ‘faux pas’ perhaps?

    Purveyor

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for the advice, be assured I will consider such as I seldom dabble in law, history and political science. As you have noticed I tend more to the etherea of philosophy and the dialectic.

    Purveyor

  • Sandie

    Something about this is discomforting…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/TopAssistant Frank Livingston

    You need to watch FOX & Friends interview December 1, 2009 with CIA Director Hayden: Recruiting in Muslim America: Will the CIA find success in Dearborn?
    http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/27645268/recruiting-in-muslim-america.htm

    FOX & Friends interviewed former CIA Director General Michael Hayden and it is amazing. He is asked about the CIA recruitment of Muslims from Dearborn, Phoenix, Fremont
    California. He says “we vet all of our applicants incredibly thoroughly in fact it’s almost a painful process. That we put these Americans of whatever persuasion through so we have a high level of confidence now nothing’s perfect. But we have a high level of confidence in all of our officers.” I guess he forgot about Nada Nadim Prouty from Lebanon who worked for FBI, CIA, stole info, passed it to Hizballah. Look it up, it is amazing how we conduct background investigations. Is there a mole in the FBI and CIA?

  • Anonymous

    “The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom” (William Blake)

    I guess I understand your sentiments and, in truth, agree with them. However, I too have been “on the road of excess” and have paid a very heavy price. Fortunately, I had the wherewithal to emerge with self deprecating humor and some wisdom, as opposed to the alternative–JIm Morrison, Joplin, Hendrix, Belushi, Brian Jones, Keith Moon, etc.

    I’ve been clean since April, 2001 (Note: I did not use a 12 step method)

  • Anonymous

    HANDS,

    That was an interesting  and robust discussion the other night?  Between you and a few others, many ideas were exchanged.

    I suggest that your “Conservatism” is born of and maintained by your faith in God? (Morals)  Whereas my “Conservatism” is the product of a deliberative search for what objective liberty means and is? (Ethics)

    However, I have found that given the character of the religion, or the erudition and philosophy of political/legal Leadership, usually the two arrive at the same place?  “Thou shall not kill” or Murder deprives one of his life, liberty and property. (essentially the same?)  

    Which begs the question, You, myself and Thomas Jefferson are all products of Western Religious thought, hence is evident in our Laws and Constitution.  However, Is that “Western Religious” influence the appropriate source of our CODIFIED law?

    OR, would Jeffersonian reason, (influenced by  Western Religious thought) be a better locus to create law?  The Founders all prayed before each meeting in Philadelphia, 1787.  But, Mr. Madison’s notes do not show religious affirmation as the intended result!   

    “Our civil liberties are no more dependent on our religious opinions, any more than our “religious opinions” are dependent on physics and geometry.”

    (Thomas Jefferson) 

    That is “Neutral Principle”

  • Sandie

    As I added in a note to you mid June, my counter to Blake’s quote… “The road of excess runs through the kingdom of denial”.

    Congratulations ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/claude.parish Claude AndPam Parish

    Why should Americans bow down before any other government, much less an oppressive outfit like the MB? If people inside of OUR government are working toward some kind of coalition with a group whose very foundation is the destruction of another country, namely Israel, they should be exposed and thrown out and possibly even jailed. Liberal fear of Muslims is going to kill America. Bachmann’s stand against this evil should unmask the useful idiots in Obama’s administration and oust those sympathetic with this movement. 

  • Anonymous

    we need to vote Obama out and elect Romney in 2012. go Michele Bachmann
    stand your ground.
     

  • w. Parker

    Hahaha…i get it, you are a Johnson backer, someone who agrees with gay marriage. 

  • Anonymous

    Sorry w.Parker,

    Never will I ever agree on gay marriage, it is clear from a Biblical view point.

    I am a backer of Truth, something you can not comprehend? I don’t care of others view points, I answer only to God’s Word…personally.

    Johnson hasn’t a record of falsehoods, or other candidates like T.J. O’Hara- Romney has a clear record of endorsing, and advocating the exact same proponents as Obama….yet you, in your vaulted opinion of spirituality, morality, and ethics support an obvious untruth in your unwillingness to view with an objective eye what is before you.

    YOU are part of the problem, You can not “see” for you are blinded by your “tunnel vision,” believing in your absolute moral vision that your way is the right way and to hell with everyone else.

    You justify your nastiness and seek to vilify others who though may be of your conservative persuasion, do not “tow the line.” In this you and others are exactly as the Left

  • w. Parker

    you are a very sick and twisted – nut,,,,,hey, what are you going to do about it???

  • Anonymous

    Michelle O’bachmann?  Your verbage needs to be correct if you are going to taken seriously.