Huh? Business Insider endorses some ‘pretty good’ communist economic policies

On radio this morning, Glenn played some audio of a prediction he made back in 2010 regarding the Marxists in this country finally revealing themselves for who they truly are.

“A couple of predictions have come true lately – long-standing predictions,” Glenn said. “One was: At some point, they are all going to just say, ‘You know what? Yes, we’re Marxists. So what?’”

Here is what Glenn had to say in 2010:

GLENN: We’re approaching a time when the argument will change. [They will say], ‘Yes. Yes. We do believe in Marx… And we communists would like to fight on the side of democracy. But you know, [the] system is old. It’s outdated. It doesn’t work.’ Just as the progressives said at the turn of the last century: Got to decide now: Is it Marx or Madison? It’s one of the two because they can’t coexist.

Fast-forward to this past weekend, and that prediction seems to be coming true. On Friday, Rolling Stone’s Jesse A. Myerson released an article entitled “Economic Reforms Millennials Should Be Fighting For.” In the piece, Myerson argues in favor of several five economic principles ripped straight from the pages of the Soviet constitution:

  • Guaranteed jobs for everyone
  • A universal basic income
  • Imposing a land-value tax, or maybe having the government own a lot of land
  • “Make everybody own everything,” the specific proposal for which seems to be a sovereign wealth fund
  • State lending banks like North Dakota’s

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Myerson’s analysis got a lot of people’s attention, and the article garnered 5,000+ comments from supporters and detractors. Business Insider decided to get in on the action by posting a response to the Rolling Stone piece, in which writer Josh Barro calls Myerson’s economic reform ideas as “pretty good.”

“Business Insider came out yesterday and said, you know, there are like five [ideas] going around that people are saying are new business ideas,” Glenn explained. “We think they’re pretty good. Ok, yes, they are from Karl Marx, but what’s wrong with these?”

In the article, “Some Of These ‘Communist’ Economic Ideas Are Actually Pretty Good,” Barro writes:

Conservatives dismiss this agenda at their peril. Myerson’s ideas are aimed at very real problems: Returns to labor are declining relative to returns to capital; America’s economy is vulnerable to shocks that sharply raise unemployment; returns to economic growth are accruing disproportionately out of the top, leaving most people out of their share of progress.

“I mean that essentially fits the prediction to a tee,” Pat concluded.

“All of these are found in the Soviet constitution. All of these are communist. All of these come from the Marx manifesto,” Glenn said. “Congratulations! The prediction is out now, and it’s happening.”

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  • Anonymous

    cue spooky music.

    It’s a conspiracy! Where’s my Krazy Glue…my tinfoil hat is slipping!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    Oh look more liberal troll stupidity..

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FvmesaxXg Sam Fisher

    But the left living in Obama’s rear will still call us conspiracy theorist instead of looking at facts.

  • landofaahs

    If you’re on the receiving end of the crony capitalism, then it makes sense. Of course if you’re not, then that’s quite another thing.

  • landofaahs

    The economy’s fate is sealed. It’s only about when now before it crashes. But Buffett and Soros among others are dumping their positions in U.S. consumer based stocks. That don’t seem like confidence in an improving U.S. economy to me.

  • Anonymous

    As someone who does not have a tinfoil hat, I’m sorry that your tinfoil hat (which you admit to having) is slipping. Glenn played a sound bite of a past prediction and then read documentation that proved his prediction to be incontrovertibly correct. That is NOT a conspiracy. In the court of law it would be called PROOF! You are either mentally capable of grasping that or you aren’t. No skin off my back either way.

  • Anonymous

    An honest study of economics ALWAYS pays attention to human nature. If a person works part time for minimum wage and can’t pay their bills it benefits them personally to obtain the necessary skills to get a better paying job. It’s the nature of human beings who own businesses to lay off employees whose minimum wage just increased. No matter what policy initiative the President lays forth, businesses will react the same way. Food prices, gas prices, and inflation increase EVERY time the minimum wage increases. What good is it to make $10.75 compared to $7.25 an hour if everything costs more? Purchasing power has not increased for the low wage worker. Not to mention that the wage of a laid off person is $0.00. It stands to reason that Leftists have zero respect for small business or personal property rights…or they’d shut the fuck up.

  • Bonnie Somer

    look buffet owns the railroad taking oil from canada so along w/environmentalists horrors there may b no keystone pipeline. Yes De Blasio is a marxist so is this nut in rolling stone but did u note THAT BILL AND HILLARY KNOW DE BLASION AND TERRY MCAULIFFE IN VA NO COINCIDENCE THERE I AM SURE OF IT

  • Carolyn Ferrante

    landdofaahs — I’m not on the “receiving end of the crony capitalism,” but I never want to see the USA philosophically or actually become a socialist State. God forbid!

  • Trythis Last

    Tell them to check their butt.
    Let me know if they were born with a tattoo that guarantees a free income, equal wealth, etc.

    I WILL go with them to endorse EQUAL OPPORTUNITY……
    Otherwise……….TAKE A HIKE

  • jennifer_ashcroft1967

    It is also worth noting that the beliefs of Communists/Marxists are not much different ot those of Islamists:

    http://edgar1981.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/comparing-islamists-and-radical-leftists.html

  • Trythis Last

    incog……..check your butt
    Let me know if you were born with a tattoo that guarantees free income , a job, and rights to my land.

    If you can’t find it……you’ll just have to try to get a job………no guarantee

    I’ll agree on EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
    If that is not your view, TAKE A HIKE!

  • Herbert Shallcross

    Guaranteed jobs for everyone and a universal basic income are entirely possible.

    In a forced labor camp.

  • Anonymous

    Inside every liberal is a commissar-in-waiting.

  • David Johnson

    I remember back in the 70′s wishing I could get my hands on one of those “Sweet Cars” being built in USSR. Don’t think even Cuban’s wanted those things. They were good at making & consuming vodka though!!

  • Charles Hurst

    An example from the article’s mindset

    How long is the government going to extend unemployment, yet another entitlement? Unemployment should last a few months for most people. Now, that being said, bad things happen in economic downturns, which is where we are still at. It means you may lose your house and have to downgrade your standard of living. You may have to take a job that pays less. But the idea that we just need to continue to fund the unemployed forever is nonsense. Especially in a 17 trillion dollar debt scenario. I can clearly say I’ve been unemployed as well–for a short time. This was when I was in the unskilled labor field and as a medical contractor.There are always jobs somewhere. Even temp jobs I found in the Reaganomics years. And as a medical contractor I have worked with countless welfare recipients. And most of them, I do mean at least 90% and above, could do something for work. And I guarantee if we yanked the rug in say six months they would have found some work by then.

    Bear with me I have a point tying to Glenn’s article

    What does everyone think the end result of this continued spending is? Does everyone believe it will magically just work out? I’ve written theories about a future collapse in this country. Based on historical research, all the way back to the philosophy of Cicero. The two commonalities to a collapsed nation are bankrupt economy and bankrupted morals. Put those two items together and the nation falls in the end. We may delay the collapse but it will surely happen. As history repeats itself. And I believe this entitlement attitude is exactly what we are moving to–deliberate collapse

    And here is my theory, which I once put into fiction. As a “what if.” And I believe we are exponentially moving toward it. Deliberate sabotage of the economy, Panic ensues. Riots. Mass violence. A perfect excuse for martial law. Then a perfect reasoning to declare capitalism has failed. And for the good of everyone the government will now take over. Everyone will be supplied a job by the government. A centralized bank. For the “good of the recovery.”Dissenters will be viewed as terrorists. And jailed. Or worse. Think this is just my fictional scenario? It isn’t. I based it on historical research. Russia. Cuba. Leaders like Stalin. Hitler. Mao. When people are afraid they will hand over their freedom. Even in 1776 only about a third really wanted to take on the throne. They use that fear from a collapse with a young generation that is already ill from too many Whoppers and the scenario becomes real. It isn’t that far fetched. And now eight years after I picked up the quill I see it unfolding right before my eyes.

    Charles Hurst. Author of THE SECOND FALL. An offbeat story of Armageddon.
    And creator of THE RUNNINGWOLF EZINE

  • Anonymous

    And……how many of these fools have lived in Communist countries….and reaped the benefits of these attractive systems????? Not many I suspect, so the “grass looks always greener on the other side”……. to total fools.

  • Anonymous

    And there are 147 in Obama’s administration….he is calling the CZARS.

  • Anonymous

    It is obviously the mental capability of grasping is or has slipped!

  • Anonymous

    F.U. Jesse Myerson ! Take your Special Olympic Marxist A$$ up with those wheelchairs ! Stinkin’ Negroid Obummer blood sucking conniving Fascist bastard that you are, the sub-humans of eastern Europe.

  • Take 2

    A non American raised islamist later communist will continue to provide good example of changing or auditing balloting certification.

    For such a top leading Country in the World turning what 50 State balloting heads-heads allowing such a crime developed X2 elections.

  • givenswayne

    I have been saying this ever since 2008 when obama was elected they all came up from whatever underground bunker they were hiding in . All of a sudden it was popular to be socialist , marxist and communist as well as gay and every other thing thats against god and liberty and family values that made us a great and envied country here in America ., As soon as he was elected he started installing these people in every segment of our society he wanted to control in his grand scheme to fundamentally change America . What do we have now under obama 75 or more czars implementing things without our consent or oversight , that will change us into a communist country , Everyday something new comes to light , Christians and everyday people who love our country are being portrayed as unstable and even terrorists while in the real fight against extremist islam we have elements of the muslim brotherhood in the white house and homeland security advising us and setting policy , while our so called president arms our enemies with more potent weapons to kill is with . I call that TREASON , WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AND WHEN ARE WE GOING TO STAND UP AND STOP THIS SHIT.

  • Jason Haas

    Only it is skin off our backs because as long as people sleep and don’t take the time to THINK FOR THEMSELVES, we are closer to a horrific future.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn, The Blaze is a verb, it’s action, and it’s time for action! Things just keep getting worse. Please – we must do something since Congress is sitting on its hands.

  • givenswayne

    Same thing ,but one of their supporters will be hung by the neck until dead . poor , stupid gay people , better wake up and find the Lord, It’s their only hope .

  • Anonymous

    This is what comes from a problem solving, pragmatic mindset that our schools have been inculcating for decades. The problem with it is it ignores systemic issues. It merely attempts to nudge the system in the “right” direction by focusing on immediate results. It also comes from a mindset where theory trumps experience. Experience is assumed to be “what got us here” (the problem). So theory is thought to be superior. Ideas and intended results are what matter, because experience is “obsolete.” Never mind that the experience of trying to do what’s proposed resulted in poverty and millions of deaths every time. “They did it wrong,” is the classic answer.

    These people do not understand themselves, much less humanity. They understand how to manipulate, but not how to create a better society. We follow them at our peril.

  • chrislong

    I have the greatest respect for Glen. He is a great American hero. But like almost everyone, Glen continues to be misled about Marxism as are most politicians and practically all the regular voters; the backbone of the nation; the people. Like most everyone Glen is under informed about Marxism. Why? Because that is the Marxist method of advancing its purpose. How do I know? I have read and understood everything Marx wrote. I have read practically everything that Marx read; all the major 19th century German Philosophers, Lenin, Stalin and the anarchists, syndicalists and socialists ( I also have extensive graduate work in Russian history including Russian language.) with extensive graduate work. Does that make me qualified to present a plausible explanation of Marxism?
    I have tried to contact Glen so I could clarify exactly what Marxism is and who the Marxists are and what thy do socially and politically. But I am sad to say that Glen was not interested. Why? I don’t know but I suspect that like most people he believes he believes he already knows enough without knowing that like almost everyone he knows what the Marxists want him to know. Marxism is not a world view, it is not an economic theory and it is NOT a political ideology. Marx was nota Marxist. Marx was a communist. Marxism is a sociopolitical science with one function, although with many clever (even brilliant) agendas. The purpose of Marxism, as I explain it in my book, is to fundamentally transform a social order for the purpose of establishing a communist/ fascist government, wherein the state is supreme.
    I still respect Glen highly. I think he is subject to human error as we all are. It is a shame that he is unable to bring to our political leaders the intellectual force and methodology to defeat Marxism.
    Jon

  • Anonymous

    How right you are. How many businesses are hiring those with no experience…zilch..notta, while experience leads to knowledge and once applied, is viewed having visible results. Our founding fathers also took full advantage of Godly Knowledge and used the bible for their guide when writing the American Constitution, something by the way, the progressives claim is outdated.

  • Anonymous

    You got it! 100 Hundred years ago, they claimed that capitalism failed; they’re doing it again. And there will be the gullible that believe it.

  • Anonymous

    The plan is to impoverish the middle class.

  • Anonymous

    Gods quill described this American scenario thousands of years ago, he didn’t rely on fictitious accounts, he simply told the story like he saw it – from the time he started writing. You are found to be in agreement with God, for a nation that relishes evil over good, will not stand.

  • Anonymous

    You are so right. If only people would know world history they would see the writing on the wall! Tumultuous times always breed misery and the desperate people will follow those who promise a way out of the crisis, even if those promises are nothing but lies. Germans after World War I were blinded by someone who promised a way out of a crisis, and later after Germany was divided when the nation lost World War II, 50 years of Communism in East Germany showed us that Marxism was only a pipe dream.

  • Anonymous

    It is because no Lefty ever lived under Communist rule. All they know is how to sprout these Marxist utopian pipe dreams. Those who fled Communism know better, but most people do not listen to the warning signs out there.

  • Lee

    Most of these idea bank on the idea that government can’t be corrupted. government is inherently corrupted, its just the degree that is in question. I’m not saying there is no corruption is business, because that’s not true either, which is why we have government in the first place. Our founding fathers got it right in the sense that there needs to be a system of checks and balances. We have been adjusting that system since it’s inception, and some adjustments were better than others, but the concept is a good one. Congress can be checked by the administration or the court and the people, corporations can be affected by unions and government regulation, in addition to public sentiment and laws of economics. The balance is always tricky. Too much one way or the other and things get dicey. That’s one reason for the huge swings in the economy. We consistently do the opposite f what we could do to balance it out. When things are going good we take lots of risk and give mortgages out to anyone who can fog a mirror. Then things go south and it becomes difficult to get financing, so the market crash goes twice as far as it should have. We have lost sight of common sense and adhering to our moral standards. Get those two qualities back and we will go far.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, everybody has a job and everybody makes the same, but no one makes enough to eat and make a decent living. Just look at Cuba.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the self-defeating philosophy of the atheist in action. You hear them say all the time that a loving god wouldn’t allow bad things to happen. In reality, our God allows us to do what we want, and look at the horrible things that we do to each other, all on our own.

  • Anonymous

    Speak for yourself. When calamity strikes, I will be mentally tougher and therefore more capable of withstanding suffering than the Leftist, useless idiots will be. They will suffer most by their own doing. My suffering will produce perseverance, and perseverance will only add to my character and I will rejoice in it.

  • Anonymous

    Marxism sounds good but it never works. Here’s why: “In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.” – Yogi Berra

    “From each according to their abilities and to each according to their needs” is a perfect example and it is the difference between all of those countries that have tried Marxism and America. It boils down to who decides? Who decides what my abilities are? Further, who decides what abilities I am allowed to develop via education. Who decides what my needs are?

    Freedom is an amorphous concept but it boils down to the same thing: who decides? Does the state, i.e. some bureaucracy, decide what my abilities are and so determine what education I can have or do I decide what abilities I want to develop and pursue the education that I think will help me perfect those abilities? And this is where human nature kicks in – who decides what education those same bureacrats’ children will receive?

    If “The State” decides it needs more air conditioning technicians rather than doctors, who decides whose children will be air conditioning technicians and whose will be doctors?

    There is a reason a large majority of technical and scientific breakthroughs come from America and that’s it: who decides who will pursue what? Is the individual to be allowed to devlop and pursue his own interests or is the individual only an organ of the state to be used as the bureaucrats decide?
    Here’s what the progressives have accomplished: they have convinced a majority of the public that they aren’t smart enough to make their own decisions.

    That’s how Barak Hussein Obama got elected.

  • Robert Starkand

    When I saw the Rolling Stone piece, I thought that this was an article geared to the young who are inexperienced, naive, and given the state of our education system, ignorant of basic economics and primed by our culture and education to be open to this type of appeal. For the last several years Glenn has appealed to us that we have to save our children from this type of appeal by teaching them the truth. I don’t know much about “Business Insider”, but its title suggests that its a web site that is geared to adults, and presumably to a more sophisticated audience with a free market bent and therefore would not be susceptible to such an appeal, and there may very well be a backlash from its readers.

  • Anonymous

    Obama is terminal cancer

  • James Hubbs

    It is true in Soviet Russia that everyone had a job, free health care and housing, you were paid a minimum wage just like everyone else. You could live without the kind of worries that most Americans have , like car payments, mortgages, credit card debt and college tuitions, property taxes. Russians owned nothing really, lived a dismal existance of what I would discribe as a black and white or grey world. In the west we live a life of color and prosperity at least we use to. The communist system created the largest population of alcoholics in the world, people were defeated, depressed they had nothing to look forward to., their homes or flats as they call them still were exactly the same as their neighbors no body had anything more or less than the family next store. A good day would be a day in which one could buy eggs, or fresh bread or meat. Shortages were common except vodka which the Kremlin made sure there was plenty of.

  • Me Wise Magic

    Watch the sensational documentary below that came out in 2011 because it sums up where the road to Communism/Marxism leads and where America stands at this very moment in time.

    Grinding America Down (a must see documentary on progressivism)
    http://vimeo.com/63749370

    These are the Communist goals to bring down America read on the floor of the United States Congress 50+ years ago as a warning – see how many of the goals have been achieved – prepare to be shocked.
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/86681001/The-Naked-Communist-Goals-With-Notes

  • T funk

    Sounds so utopian. Gives me a tingle…..up my leg.

  • Anonymous

    Capitalism has failed before, but then someone sets up a hot dog stand and the whole thing starts again. You can’t kill it, it’s like a lizard, cut off an arm and it just grows back. The dollars losing value is a good example. As the dollars value continues to drop it will pass a point were people begin switching over to another currency or form of currency and things continue. That’s just the way it works.

  • Anonymous

    Realistically what is the far right going to do. The entire right has been split into so many parts you could honestly make a stew. Now we have a bunch of people buying guns and stock piling bullets and for what? To go shoot at a governments Abram Tank??? The only way out of this mess is through the government process that many refuse to accept. When they the few lose a vote they run around and pout as though the vote means nothing and everyone should just do what they want. It’s like the five year old screaming me me me me, mine mine mine, If this is the tactic no wonder why the far right or libertarian (tea party) are falling drastically in numbers. “You people” get into an argument and once the facts don’t go the way you want or another persons philosophy is different your eyes glaze over and you go into this attack about being non-American. The way I see it is votes do matter and not only do they matter but they choose the direction we go. Your not going to win any votes by just attacking peoples beliefs and in fact you are now losing more than ever. Either way keep stock piling your guns, I would love to see how that whole thing plays out.

    Just some thoughts from a Gun owning, Obama hating socialist.

  • TOTLAM

    Well Hooray! Finally someone with a bit of HP who is saying the same thing I have for YEARS! “Commies, commies, everywhere and not a noose in sight!” It is time for some very public lynching and it’s time to begin America! There is a: “List of 80 Communists in Congress” – Name – party – and state they represent – Go look! Our colleges have pro socialist professors who send their programmed students into our public schools as teachers/indoctrinators for your kids! They have been infiltrating our media, press, entertainment, history, pride, religion, local and state politics for decades! And they did this by keeping our attention focused elsewhere with, porn. drugs, booze, and greed. There’s a lot to be said for “divide and conquer” just ask the commie infested ACLU. Find out for yourselves! In your search bar punch in: “Communists in”….. then pick a category, just about any one will do. Then when you wake up – start hollering!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Yes! Mock the disabled!Mock the Racially inferior! Our Father, who art in Hell loves this!

    You are on of His Favored Children! Hail Satan!

  • Anonymous

    Don’t worry, my child, Our Father has Great Plans for Glenn.

    Hail Satan!

  • Anonymous

    Our Master, Satan, loves your Wrath and Anger. Let it out, my child. We will make furious lust in the aeternal fires.

  • Anonymous

    My Darling….a buffet is one of those all you can eat places, soon to be consumed in aeternal fire Americans love to commit the mortal sin of Gluttony within.

  • Anonymous

    My Master loves your obession with sodomy. You will fit in well during the Thousand Years of Darkness. I lick my lips with antici………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….pation.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Good for Glenn! for predictions are of Our Father’s realm. He is a gifted Child of Satan.

  • Anonymous

    So much closer. :-)

  • Anonymous

    Hell will welcome you with all of Satan’s bounty!

  • Anonymous

    More Wrath, for it pleases Our Father. The foul Christ despises when you make disparaging comments about others. Keep up the Black Work!

  • Anonymous

    “We,” aren’t going to stop anything. I will take care of me and mine, and I suggest that YOU do the same. Lock and load, not to take on Abrams tanks in the street, but to shoot your supper for you and your children. Yes, protect you and your family from the inevitable Zombies that WILL surface when the EBT system goes down. Do you have at least 6 mts of emergency food and water? Do you have, in place, a SHTF plan? Please. No more voting for the lesser of 2 evils. Enough. I don’t care if Hillary is elected in 2016. Ask Hillary how she was outmaneuvered by foreign interests and foreign money, installing a “Manchurian” candidate to be elected as President. This total illegal, unprecedented event, caught even the great politician Bill Clinton, by surprise! Rev. Jackson was caught flat-footed, as he supported Hillary, and as such is now persona-non-grata. It was a BRILLIANT, socialist maneuver! The Republican party is STILL attempting to figure what went wrong, by re-arranging the deck chairs on The Titanic. Go ahead and run another John McCain. You can lose, without me. It is past time that The Republican Party went the way of The WHIG Party. I will work as local as possible, until the system implodes. Then, it’s every man for himself.

  • Anonymous

    Communism is still capitalist just a different way of looking at ownership and money. Instead of having something even after it’s needed and taken for granted it get passed on so lots of people own the thing. Kinda like how siblings share the same toys and/or clothes only different. Guaranteed income means the emphasis is on saving more than earning. How is ANY of this wrong? It’s still being responsible.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently he is much further ahead with his plans for you, MB666.

  • Anonymous

    I am Legion. his Infernal Work is my only thought.

  • Anonymous

    Capitalism hasn’t failed it is what has been done since 1913 – income tax, then all the entitlements since to the poor and rich alike all for political power and of course money. Crony capitalism too. Even in a communist country there are 3 to 5% rich people – the commies in that case. War is coming.

  • Anonymous

    You got that right. The government again has created another bubble, this time the stock market. It is all in the communist plan. When the economy crashes and the dollar does the same, the socialists will say they can fix it and promise you the world The masses will drink the kool-aid and we will become a socialist or communist nation – dirt poor. Civil War II will begin and the conservatives will lose because while the communists were planning your demise, you watched TV, played video games, played or watched sports and simply enjoyed your family. After that America will be weak and mostly destroyed. Communist China, Russia and the Muslim world will come out and play. WWII will look like a itsy bitsy scurmish.

  • Anonymous

    By capitalism I take it you mean free market which I believe has only existed in very short periods in history and then the consolidation begins and monopolies start controlling most aspects of the market including who can compete. I am all for taxes, but the rates we use today are insane. I am against income tax completely but being i am not an idiot and know they aren’t going anywhere. We should focus on reasonable rates. The whole commie, socialist talk is why people don’t take you people seriously and I wont involve myself in such petty label calling. As for “War is coming” Ummm, it’s already here. What are you going to do? Buy guns stock pile ammo? You know the enemy owns tanks and a lot bigger guns than anyone else right? The far right has watched to many war movies and has disconnected itself from reality. But that what your opponents love to hear because it only hurts your side.

  • Anonymous

    marxism is attractive because everyone who espouses it envisions themselves as one of the elite decision makers, not as one of the plebeians who must comply with the central planning office. whenever one of the leftist elites says, “WE should do such and such,” they leave off the tail, which is “…because I believe YOU are incapable of making any decisions for YOURSELVES.” It’s total control freaks on parade, and marxism offers an ideological sense of self-righteousness while imposing on others. indeed, a very attractive package to pseudo-intellectual, effete, schwags who like to believe that when it comes to their own methods, the ends justify the means. i mean look at these jagoffs, they all start out as college revolutionaries then end up as college professors. so completely worthless, lol!

  • BlueMN

    Why do teabaggers hate America so much?

  • Anonymous

    “There you go, again!”

    You guys did not really hear what you THOUGHT you heard.

    That wasn’t BUSINESS INSIDER. It was BUSINESS IN CIDER!

  • BlueMN

    The Soviet Constitution also guaranteed the right to free speech, freedom to assemble and freedom of religion (for what little good it did them). I knew Jefferson and that whole lot were a bunch of no good left wing revolutionaries too!

  • Anonymous

    Tea Party members love America. Teabaggers, in no way associated with Tea Party members, well I can’t speak for them.

  • Anonymous

    The only way out of this mess, the way I see it, is for everyone who’s socialist to go anywhere on earth but America. Find your own piece of land and enact your own socialist policies, ones that I want nothing to do with. PLEASE…go now, hurry.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! Give me a broom, all the prepaid sick leave I want and starting pay of at least a $100/hr, full medical and dental and I will work for ya…..Commies never have learned a single thing but malicious intent and communism is absolutely good for nothing….

  • Anonymous

    Ya don’t think they will negotiate…..

  • Watch it

    “As the dollars value continues to drop it will pass a point were people begin switching over to another currency or form of currency….” Have you heard of “bitcoin”? It is, so far, not taxable and is not regulated by the FED.

  • Anonymous

    Lovable as Chico, Harpo and Groucho were (which movie was Karl in?), who can blame us? Commies are usually good at hiding: Don’t they know all the Engels?

  • Anonymous

    I have no objection to a guaranteed annual income, it was proposed by Richard Nixon in his first term – but he called it a “negative income tax”. Before you jump on me let me lay out the details. BTW; conservatives wouldn’t accept it on principle, and liberals objected because the amount ($6000 per year) wasn’t enough.

    We had then, as now, a proliferation of state and federal welfare programs – they overlap and have tremendous administrative costs. Nixon’s proposal was to put it all together in one program using the IRS form (not as political as today). I have long advocated shutting down most of our Federal agencies – basically having the IRS for revenue and the GAO to allocate spending (a bit glib, but I’ll not get into detail here).

    One of the fallacies of the various welfare programs is that the cost of living in the several states is very different. That should dictate that the states should run them independently. But there is a value to Nixon’s proposal, by setting a national standard of guaranteed income there is an incentive for the urban poor to move to the states with lower cost of living. This is not a command, it is an incentive.

    There is a parallel to the opening of the west – the land grants to those who would move and stake out a claim (oh those Sooner’s who jumped the gun). If there is a migration to the less developed areas of our country then there will be more need for services in those places. If the baby needs shoes then there need to be shoe stores, and employees. That makes jobs for the older “babies” of the “welfare mothers” and breaks the cycle of dependence.

    I repeat, this is overly glib, there are many details to be worked out – but the principle applies. I first thought of this before Nixon’s proposal when Nelson Rockefeller was governor of NY (and I was resident). Conservatives knock Rockefeller as a liberal, but it is a bit of a bad rap. He proposed, and got, a “living wage” level for welfare payments in NY – but he had a residency requirement on it. It was a subsistence level, not like the welfare of today that allows for TVs and such. The residency requirement (one year) was knocked down by the U.S. Supreme Court under Article IV, section 2 that prohibited restrictions on the movement of people among several states. That caused the third mass migration from the South to NY, as the North Carolina (for example) rule for welfare was half what it would cost a person to eat for a year.

    My basic orientation is that all things other than national defense and foreign treaties (as defined in the Constitution) should be the province of the States. It was when I saw the result of the Supreme Court decision on the Rockefeller “living wage” welfare that I saw the reverse. I still prefer the rights of the States, but I’m willing to except the matter of income. The precedent is with us, the income tax brackets consider a family income of $200,000 to be among the rich and taxed at a higher rate. But that may be rich in many states for what it can buy, but doesn’t go very far in NYC where a three bedroom apartment may cost $5000 a month. Combine the rent, and the higher tax rate, and other things (like a garage for the car) and the same income level in NY as Mississippi is near poverty in the former and quite well off in the latter.

    One way to cover this is to have government people adjust the payments, the better way is to set a national standard based on an average and encourage people to move to the cheaper states .Set simple rules, allow the public to choose were and how to use that “wage”. If they use sense and move to a state where the money will go further then they are on their way to fulfilling the American Dream as there also will be opportuniies there. If they choose, or lack the sense to choose, to stay in poverty then we owe them nothing. Provide enough for opportunity, but not enough for stasis.

    We are a federation of states with different resources and interests, our Constitution defined that. We are becoming a nation with a uniform central government, that will destroy us. This one variation in the basic principle of the separation of powers, justified by the national income tax format – as a “negative income tax”. – might work to break the welfare cycle.

  • Anonymous

    Wow! Good argument from someone calling himself or likely herself “reform School”. If you want credibility try actually making an argument instead of giving yourself a stupid name. Dumb@%$!

  • Anonymous

    My family has fought in every war this country has had. I’m staying and you can suck on it.

  • Anonymous

    They just haven’t figured out the whole voting to thing yet. They still think if they lose it means ignore the vote and do what you want. silly little kids.

  • bumpkin

    Gee. ‘Guaranteed Jobs For Everyone’ will NOT be popular with those few million who feed off the udder of the welfare government! –WORK??? Are you KIDDING? I can just hear it now… And guaranteed jobs for everyone sounds a whole lot like low-pay slave labor, since they will have to stretch the collapsed pie beyond its capabilities in order to give even the incapable people a wage at first. (until they ‘thin out’ the masses as a ‘mercy’. What if its YOU they ‘thin’? –Oops. ) Strike ONE! When EVERYONE has to have a job, -or starve, because Welfare, then Social Security stops, wages will drop drastically, the standard of living will bottom out with it, too, and government favorites will get the much bigger piece of ‘equality’. Because everyone has to have the SAME wage, in “equality”, there will be no possibility of paid-extra for-excellence, or for working longer hours, nor will the possibility of a merit raise exist any longer. No incentive to excel or to even compete or to even COMPLETE. -Strike TWO! “Make everybody own everything” means the mother-beating thug down the street has the right to your car, your house, -oh, and your daughter. He will also ‘own’ you. And the government, through buying up packages of problem-mortgages, ALREADY owns a whole lot of the land that should be in private hands. When the Socialist/Marxists/Communists kick you out on the street, because they now own your house, and housing only goes to those who rat on their family members for being Christians, or gay, or for being against Commies, –or even for growing their own cottage gardens, (because “Equality for Everyone means the government will HAVE to own every single bite of food to ensure its all divided equally- I can just see the destroyed gardens, yards, orchards, and fruit-bearing trees in town.) —Oh, and the ratting on family members causes them to get shot dead, -but, hey, the rat gets a real live house, and there are less mouths to feed now that food is non-existent, huh!…- it could be YOU that someone rats on, or lies about and causes You to be killed. For a house. –Oh, yeah! Socialism/Communism/Marxism is just a DANDY idea. For idiots. I expect something that stupid from Obama, somehow. It would be something he would buy into. No “Oh-sign” on my face? Well, surprise ME! –Yes, I have to say it! Oh, what a dum-dum, Chicken Little!

  • Guest

    100 years ago, the attacked capitalism on a moral basis where they said that we shouldn’t be out for a buck, but that we have duties to our society, country, and so forth. This is how they put capitalism down then, not necessarily because it didn’t work. They had to slither their way around it, and many people too busy making money didn’t pay any attention to those driveler’s saying that we needed to do this, that, and the other in order to be a model citizen. Today, we have forgotten how well capitalism did work, and we are losing it really fast because we simply haven’t had capitalism in about a century.

  • Shasten Marshall

    A hundred years ago, many appealled to people on a moral basis against capitalism, but I don’t think they had this in mind. Honestly, I would like to believe that many so-called progressives just couldn’t see past the end of their noses. Where they would submit that there were a moral obligation to society (which I tend to agree somewhat), it was often very unclear what those obligations were. The only thing that was unpopular was to be someone successful or wealthy. Today, they blatantly lie and say that capitalism doesn’t work when we haven’t had capitalism in this country in about a century. America is void of it’s history, and we are going to pay a huge price for it.

  • Viet Vet

    They got to come out of that tank sometime.

  • Crassus

    Soros Lib Troll Rule #3: Always refer to the Tea Party as teabaggers.

  • Crassus

    Yeah, wear that war wound like a crown, Levon. Tell us how many missions your grandpappy flew over Germany during World War II. Or was it Japan?

  • Crassus

    I remember once reading about a Soviet defector who went into an American grocery store. Since the shelves were so fully stocked he assumed it was a store for all the bureaucrats and the higher-ups like they had in the Soviet Union. When told that anyone, rich or poor, was allowed inside the store to shop he had a hard time believing it.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t play this at home, school, work (or anywhere else) unless there is a full-length mirror behind the viewing screen.

    http://youtu.be/5KHdhrNhh88

  • Anonymous

    The people of the former Soviet Union used to have a saying about why they were not as productive as they were expected to be. It was, “We’ll stop pretending to work when they stop pretending to pay us”.

    At some point, we have to realize that NO ONE is going to put forth their best efforts when they know that even if some bozo doesn’t want to work, they will be paid the same as you. Whenever there are minimums set by government for certain job types, there are also limitations placed on those same wages, meaning that there is absolutely no incentive to go beyond the mark because all of the fruits of your labor will simply be confiscated. We are already nearly there.

    Never at any point in our history has there been so much division and class envy. Never before have so many who believe that someone owes them something for the mere fact of their existence and who believe that what someone else has rightfully belongs to them and they feel militantly angry when they do not receive it. In this atmosphere, the proletariat have been brainwashed to believe that there is only a limited pie and what anyone else takes that is more than what another possesses constitutes theft. Nowhere in these Marxist beliefs is there any room for acknowledgment of exceptionalism or the rights of the individual.

    “Business Insider” may be a misnomer. The CEO of the internet business “news” service was permanently barred from working in the financial sector by the SEC and does not garner anywhere near the respect of Forbes. They mainly employ Marxists and do not espouse capitalist principles. In other words, they should be known as anti-business insiders.

  • Anonymous

    The atheist’s are at a standstill in their thinking, once they came across such verses…that – “God is Love”, then with sarcastic grins, they swiftly turned their attention to ungodly acts. And now, they have the audacity to remind those who do follow the commands of God, ‘that they are wrong.’

    God understands that most of us humans, are better trained in the school of hard knocks and then comes the judgement.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a saying that should be enforced here in the States…”We’ll stop lying around on the sofa, when you stop giving us free money”

  • Linda Sills

    Glenn is correct. Real Capitalism has not been around in America since about 1850. Lincoln helped with that along with the evil congress, by corporatizing our United States, and check the 14th Amendment. Free markets and real capitalism are good things. This Marxist (Communism) garbage always, and I mean always, leads to death, starvation, and tyranny. Just read history.

  • Anonymous

    If Commie and socialist doesn’t work for you Google “economic Fascism”. This is what the Nazi’s used to control private property and business as opposed to government ownership. It is strikingly similar to what Barrack Obama is implementing in order to create a government dominated welfare and surveillance society.

  • Anonymous

    Hey Beck are you trying to mimic Jay, Goebels, Carney with the beard?

  • Anonymous

    All the fiat currencies have been devalued, not just the dollar. Some have picked up strength over the years against the dollar but still buy less than they use to. America is the number one economy in the world and China, number two, is only 1/3 its size. Until that changes the dollar will remain the reserve currency.

  • Anonymous

    Congress tried to defund Obamacare but the American people gave them low ratings for their effort. Many Americans prefer a government dominated welfare society. That is why Obama has sway and why they will pass unemployment benefits past the two year period turning it into an Entitlement program. If Americans are not willing to have a partial shutdown of government to stop Obamacare they are not willing to do what it takes to stop Obama’s government dominated welfare and surveillance society. Romney’s intention was to reform Entitlements and create jobs and was more than qualified to do so. The majority of Americans said no to him and yes to Obama knowing Obama would implement Obamacare and increase Entitlement spending.

  • Anonymous

    Congress tried to defund Obamacare but the American people gave them low ratings for their effort. Many Americans prefer a government dominated welfare society. That is why Obama has sway and why they will pass unemployment benefits past the two year period turning it into an Entitlement program. If Americans are not willing to have a partial shutdown of government to stop Obamacare they are not willing to do what it takes to stop Obama’s government dominated welfare and surveillance society. Romney’s intention was to reform Entitlements and create jobs and was more than qualified to do so. The majority of Americans said no to him and yes to Obama knowing Obama would implement Obamacare and increase Entitlement spending.

  • Guest

    It’s his 19th Century look. He wants to lead the US back to the 19th Century, so it’s entirely appropriate.

  • Guest

    Beck continues to show his utter cluelessness about economics. On Fox he said, “I have no idea what I’m doing with the economy….” and he continues to prove that. Fact is, Republicans have been waging class war against working stiffs like us for 34 years, and they’re winning. The upshot of that is working folks cannot afford to spend their way out of this demand-side recession that unfettered finance capitalism caused.

    When Beck says “I have no idea what I’m doing with the economy,” believe him.

  • Anonymous

    Trying to relate historical examples to things happening today is a fools game. I’ve read lkely hundreds of hours easily on the Nazi era and today is nothing like then and but it’s far to easy for someone to grab onto little pieces of history and use it to represent our entire landscape.
    We don’t have political parties shooting each other in the street.
    Your paycheck isn’t worthless by time you get to the bank
    Another country hasn’t stolen our most productive land areas and still require us to pay debts impossible to even the best mathmatician.
    We have no restrictions on our military numbers or weapons
    Also everyone wants to point the finger at hitler but it was major international companies that bankrolled him into power and then took advantage of the cheap labor. By the rights own arguments we should fear companies as much as hitler. Funny isn’t it? That every concentration camp was connected to a business.
    People no nothing hitler or the nazis, it just makes stupid talking poins

  • Anonymous

    Here we go again…

    When I was kid, the college students’ favourite fashion accessory was Mao’s “little red book”. Most had not read it, but the ones who had squared the rumours of Mao’s real actions with an attitude of “eggs need to be broken so that breakfast can be made”.

    None of them had ever seen a human being die before their eyes, and did not have the perspective to really understand “tens of millions murdered”.

    It was (yet again) a case of the pseudo-intellectual herds following crypto-academic leaders. The crypto-academics HAVE studied Marx, Mao and many other failed collectivisms – and know better. These leaders love destruction (read Marx and Engels’ letters), their inner cadre agenda is about power for themselves. They employ the (mostly young) pseudo-intellectuals to drive chaos and create power-vacuums.

    Strip those masks off for your kids and teach them love of God, America and our Constitution.

  • Anonymous

    Glenn, leftists aren’t new, so don’t pretend like you predicted anything. They’ve been part of the American fabric for a very long time and they’re not going away. Any objective observer of American prosperity must conclude that it’s progress comes largely from entrepreneurial creativity and the reward that comes with it. Even the Chinese know that. I also believe government and academia play critical roles in supporting capitalism. Who gives a rats hiney about Myerson. The main thing is his right to freedom of speech.

  • Anonymous

    Spare me with your BS. I spent a year collecting my families military history back in high school and don’t really feel my integrity threatend by some beer gut at a computer.
    As for my views on my country, I like differences between states. If some states go socialist, communist, republic or democratic, or even aristcratic, that’s the choice of the people living in those states. It’s our ability to work together that gives us strength and our inability to figure things out is the reason China will be number one. I say if that happens they deserve it and so do we.
    I love my country and my flag but sometimes people need to suffer a little before the hard choices are made. I don’t care what direction we go, but standing still is killing us.

  • Anonymous

    And the ridiculous notion that the inferior races should not be slaves!

  • Anonymous

    My Master, Our Father, loves the way you think!

    Ave Satanas!

  • Anonymous

    I think you mean ‘appealed’ and’its’, brother.

  • Anonymous

    You are a Great Satanic American! You will reap great awards in the Infernal Glory of Hell!

  • Anonymous

    Yes! Satan commends you on your wrath!

  • Anonymous

    Jesus would condemn you, but Our Father will welcome you with open wings!

  • Anonymous

    Even your edited Bible tells you that Obama is appointed by Tetragrammaton. Romans 13:1.

    But our Father, who reigns in Hell, loves that you bear false witness, brother!

    Ave Satanas!

  • Anonymous

    I can tell by your post that you did not google “economic fascism”. Instead you gave some glib answer as spin. You lack knowledge and are just expressing talking points of the consisting of the very little knowledge you know of that era. German inflation was prior to the Nazi takeover and just a spin answer.
    “Funny isn’t it? That every concentration camp was connected to a business.” Total spin answer that has nothing to do with “economic Fascism”.
    Your talking points show you have no knowledge of economic fascism which is the topic. You go blar, blar, blar about something you know nothing about. Did you think no one will notice.

  • Anonymous

    Your master is the father of lies, my father in heaven, teaches those who freely come to him in sincerity and faith. The creator God, will soon remove Satan from his earthly throne and imprison him, bound with chains for a thousand years. Afterwards, he will be loosed for a short season, once again to do his work of deceit, again he will fall far short of his intended goal. Afterward, his eternity will be spent in outer darkness, while the sons of God rejoice forever in dazzling brilliant light.

    You’re not much of a realist to chose that which is here for a moment and gone forever, never to return. The kingdom of God will expand throughout the universe for all eternity. Why choose death…?

  • Anonymous

    “I am against income tax completely but being i am not an idiot and know they aren’t going anywhere. ”
    Sorry, but it is your kind of fatalist rationalization of the absurd that brought about the debt-ceiling/debt-ceiling rises, sequestration, Scotus relegislation of the ACA into a Senate originated tax bill with added language for state opt-outs (both unconstitutional), etc. . But if your resignationist philosophy is acted on by government, then like the man said,”War is coming”.
    Involuntary perpetual taxation is a form of enslavement.
    And you know how American citizens feel about that, right?

  • Anonymous

    You are a Great Satanic Humorist! That made my day!

    Ave Satanas!

  • Anonymous

    Something tells me that you won’t find it so comical when Christ throws you into the lake of fire. Oh well, we humans do have free-will don’t we?

  • Guest

    Beck — again — quotes just enough to fool some of the people all of the time.

    “Despite these drawbacks, conservatives including Charles Murray and Milton Friedman have endorsed a UBI. The policy isn’t a slam dunk, but it’s definitely not communist.”

    So much for the “truth.”

  • Anonymous

    I am of the Lake of Fire. Why would this cause me fear?

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t bring up your family, you did. I said nothing disparaging about members of the armed forces. I think nothing disparaging about them. I’m not a baby boomer actually, I’m 30!
    Back to the topic, I don’t like socialist policies. I don’t want to be forced to live under them. People who try to force me to do things that I don’t want to do get what’s coming to them every single time.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, completely. I only reply to liberal idiots out of sympathy. I try to plant seeds of wisdom but truth scares them being as they have no concept of it.

  • Anonymous

    Communism doesn’t recognize personal property rights nor does it run on anything but Marx’s dialectical materialism. Capitalism is the opposite. Communism is an abomination. Stop trying to excuse it by saying that everything that is better than it is the same.

  • Anonymous

    Christ doesn’t throw unbelievers into the lake of fire. As Dante said, “they yearn for what they fear.” We are all, each and every one of us, offered heaven as a free gift if we but acknowledge our savior. Those who go to hell have decided that they want no part of heaven.

  • Watch it

    Not necessarily so. In what way and by how much has bitcoin been devalued In fact it’s “value” has increased as far as exchange goes.

  • Anonymous

    What bitcoin does or does not do does not invalidate what I said in my post. I wish bitcoin all the success in the world and hope it is the answer to devaluation of fiat currency like you think it is.

  • Matthew Latham

    Did we NOT learn of the COMPLETE HORROR that Communism brought to the people of the nations that decided to accept it. It was terrible.

  • Anonymous

    Hi Eric, Actually capitalism started in the middle ages, but not a big deal when it started. As you said it is off and on in history and I actually thought it was even way further back than that. Regardless, it is a system that raises the most people out of poverty. Taxes we agree. The commie socialist talk does not come from me just being a name caller. I know 5 people that grew up under communism. They really do know what it is and they say,Obama is a communist. Even my wife that grew up in communist China during the Cultural Revolution says Obama talks just like Mao – pitting the poor against the rich or as Saul Alinsky says the haves versus the have nots. Regardless read Obama’s books he associated himself with radicals, socialists and communists and his mentor Frank Marshall Davis was a member of the communist party. Birds of a feather really do flock together. Whatever, many around Obama are socialists. They like big government and the bigger the government the smaller the citizen. Socialism does not work for any length of time – you run out of money eventually. Just think, after 50 years of the war on poverty, yet there is almost the same percentage of people (14%) that are considered poor. As far as war goes (yes there are some now, but…..), it has not so much to do with buying guns and ammo here in the USA and more to do with what will occur if we do not get our economic house in order. No country in history has ever gone in debt and printed money like we have (without backing it up) without eventually collapsing. When our economic system collapses by the weight of debt and entitlements (both to poor and rich) we will become weak militarily. When we get weak enough, (please believe me) the dictators and terrorists of the world will come out and play. Read some history – weak countries get overrun or destroyed not powerful ones) It will be horrible, as tens of millions will die – maybe even a billion. Think of all the innocent people, especially the children. I think from your message you are probably a very nice guy, we just think differently about what is going on or about the future. We need to stay strong militarily and mean business against those that want us dead, but trying to establish democracy in a Muslim country (and I think you agree on this point) is foolish – a waste of life and money. Read the Qur’an and you will know that Muslims do not want democracy they don’t believe in that. They want world domination. Watch the documentary “Obsession.” Hear their own words. This short message cannot say all I want to say, but I have to stop somewhere. I only urge you Eric to read like a mad dog – all sides of an issue too. Look at history. See what worked and didn’t. OK take care.

  • Anonymous

    Government has zero role in capitalism. Government produces NOTHING, i.e. no capital. They only regulate the allocation of capital. What a remedial statement I’m making, yes I know. But come on, you know this basic tenet.

  • Anonymous

    Communal living recognises personal property, the thing someone owns is theirs for as long as they are using it. Sorry, I’ve never understood the whole fascination of long-term ownership. Buying is good but usually things stop by for a little while before I send them to someone else.

  • Watch it

    Don’t misunderstand me – I don’t think bitcoin is the answer. We need to audit the FED and stop printing money for starters. The ever increasing minimum wage just chases the dollar higher and higher. A $.28 loaf of bread is now almost $4.00, even with all the automation to make it cheaper to produce.

  • Trisha Holmeide

    Monopolies and Consortiums that wedge out the competition can only occur if the government gets involved and issues some law or the other forcing all other competing forces out of the picture and us to have no choice as to where our money is spent–case in point publicly owned power and transits. First, the government levy’s punitive tax rates and onerous regulations on the private companies forcing them to raise their rates to stay afloat. Then the “Po” people make a lot of noise how they can’t afford those services at those rates, so (tada!) the government is just “forced” to come up with a solution–big surprise!) they will support and subsidize a “publicly owned” enterprise that will offer “affordable” costs and they run the private companies into the ground that can’t compete. After awhile when they have cornered the market they drop the charade and tell the people they have to raise the rates because the truth is they can’t keep the enterprises going without government subsidies, and the grants have all gone bye-bye. So, us “Po” people end up needing government assistance just to keep our heat on, and can’t even afford to ride the bus to look for work–oh wait they have an answer for that too–”ride share” and “village Vans” that only run about half the routes the original bus company was running. Oh, and don’t forget the private companies were actually contributing to the tax base. Now those monies are gone and both enterprises are a loss for the public instead of a win-win when the government wasn’t trying to create another monopoly. As for fighting–maybe, but first I’d like the hard working tax payers first try to starve the beast to near death by reversing the tax and spend monolith we laughingly refer to as our government now-a-days.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you that increasing minimum wage increases the price of the basics which minimum wage people buy so it is a wash for them and is inflationary.

    Harry Reid will not let the Audit the Fed Bill come up for a vote and President Obama has said he would veto it. Unless the majority of Americans somehow become smarter and more independent it will never happen. Socialism does not fare well on productivity alone. You have to have fiat money, government debt, and inflation to make it workable. So unless America somehow moves away from a government dominated welfare society of victims who consistently vote Democrat nothing will ever get done in that area.

  • bumpkin

    I know, huh. I heard on youtube today someone saying ‘give passive resistance, or they will kill you. Dead patriots dont help.” Point taken, but I cannot imagine what all those Civil War heroes who GAVE us our freedom by giving their lives would say to THAT! And passive resistance? Like the Jews and the Christians and the Gays in Germany- or anywhere influenced by Hitler #1? Yep, they gave passive resistance, all the way to the gas chambers. I wonder if the chanted as they marched into them, “Hell, no, we wont go!” Woo hoo. That really helped. NOPE! Look at what Obama and co are doing. They are giving us daily scandals to keep us distracted from supporting each other, on top of that they are shoving their hate down our throats, trying to turn us all against each other by stirring their toilet filled with racism, religious differences, social and political differences, when indeed, we all have a huge thing in common. We are Americans! They’re dragging our rights down the middle of the streets, causing people to focus on how we ‘feel’ about our rights while they quietly take them away, and thus causing us to focus OFF their horrible attacks upon America. Divide and conquer. Even going so far as offering free obamaphones to poor folk so they can be more easily tracked- they can track the rest of us with the microchips in our cars and our phones, moment by moment, but they had to corral the poor folk with their ‘poor-baby-you’ suck-up game, Oh, you REALLY need a phone- don’t leave home without it- here, its even FREE! And they watch your every move. Try leaving the cellphone, smart or dumb-phone home when you go out. Wean yourself. They are essentially lining us up for their firing squads. You watch. The ONLY way we will survive as a Free Nation is to tell each other, “IF you are an American, and if you are NOT a politician or a banker, we need to talk. In person, outside, away from any phone lines, etc, and we need to work together. TOGETHER. ALL of us. Now that the entire government has been taken over by the “”one-world-government” clowns (who’s government? THEIRS, of course. not yours.) Our only hope of SURVIVAL is to work together. I will tell you this: Once they collapse the financial system, there will be human roundups. There will not be food. They want to know where we all are, because they KNOW they are doing us wrong. And they are afraid, because they know they are evil. Stand strong together. Look out for each other. Don’t turn each other in for a load of bread, or even a house. We need to watch each other’s back. We can get BACK to bickering among ourselves after we take America back, clean house, and restore our Constitution that brought so many of our parents here, in the struggle for freedom… Freedom is SO worth it! Just ask every illegal here. Just ask every legal immigrant here. America is worth preserving in its ORIGINAL state. Worth restoring. Don’t give up. Stay strong. Stay American

  • Watch it

    Sadly, it is getting worse. The takers will never vote against handouts under our system.

    The attempt at creating bitcoin was, I believe, to get away from a government controlled monetary system, Central bank, FED and the taxes. It is only a matter of time before the government gets involved in it somehow.

  • Anonymous

    I couldn’t disagree more. The people, through the government, have funded fundamental research through government laboratories and think tanks, universities and private industry for purposes in military, space exploration, disease control, consumer protection, agriculture, etc. Countless technologies have been discovered for these purposes and have sparked new markets in the private sector, thus creating jobs. The government-university-private industry model has been admired and emulated throughout the world.

  • Anonymous

    God the Father is a powerful flaming inferno. Death is swallowed up in victory…you loose.

  • Anonymous

    Agreed!

  • Anonymous

    You called Tetragrammaton gay! He won’t like that!

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    They’re easier to fight when they’re out in the open. We need to keep coaxing them out.

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    Marxism is a religion. You will never defeat it with reason.

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    Even the use of the word “capitalism” implies acceptance of false marxist premises and the marxist system of thinking.

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    Absolutely.

  • Socialism: Organized Evil

    Marxism is a religion and this is a religious war. We had better recognize that and start treating it as such.

  • Anonymous

    Well at least it looks like this joker got thrown off the page(s), it does blow ones mind about decisions some people make, i suppose it comes from a lack of upbringing, – what else could make a person follow the devil.

  • Anonymous

    Uh huh…and MORE government has worked ever so well, hasn’t it? I mean, after all, Obama’s not at fault for the economy barely moving and unemployment, underemployment, lowest labor force participation in decades, highest number of citizens on welfare, unemployment, food stamps and every other government program, seventeen trillion dollars in debt, out of control government spending…all of that is just great for the economy isn’t it? You’re as clueless as liberals come. Apparently, your definition of success is pretty much any normal person’s definition of failure, which I would bet would be a pretty good characterization of your entire life since you feel that everyone owes you a living. But hey, you completely understand economics. After all, it worked so well in the Soviet bloc, Greece, France, etc…. Why would we NOT want to go down this path again?

  • Anonymous

    Wow, the 60’s are alive and well today. Who knew? Only a fool would believe that parents will sacrifice their children’s future and current well being by living “communally”. The assumption among your particular brand of lunacy is that everyone will act against human nature in order to provide for everyone else, who also will work just as hard for the good of the collective above the good of those who actually mean something to them. It’s pure foolishness and it has been shown throughout history that it does not work. But keep dreaming of your communist utopia. After all, the experiment really hasn’t been tried in its “purity”, right?

  • fire lion

    Sounds like what christians are promising when jesus comes back.

  • Anonymous

    Again, the government creates nothing. Just like your reply here says nothing.

  • Anonymous

    It creates opportunity.

  • Anonymous

    Um, stupid question time but it needs to be asked. What does materialism have to do with anybody’s well-being? Seems like when people share and have short-term ownership it reduces stress and hoarding and anything having to do with being envious. I wouldn’t know about the sixties coming back or not, I just know the more people get into “conscious consumerism” and communal living the less eccentric I am. As for how utopianism and communes aren’t supposed to work please explain why more and more intentional living groups are starting up all over the world.

  • Anonymous

    Because they always assume something erroneous – that those with more talent will work as hard to provide for the families of others and that they will sacrifice for others while not fully providing for their own families, that all will agree with the centralized decision making necessary to manage the economics and workload of such communities, and last, but not least, that there will be no “takers”, only contributors.
    All of those are abject foolishness and NONE of these communities has ever succeeded in the long term unless it was more like a familial retreat, in which the residents spend only a short time living communally. The fact of the matter is, this has been tried to death (literally), as if a microcosm for the problems that exist on a vast scale will simply solve themselves on a small scale. Materialism is not even remotely the point. It is not materialistic to fully provide for the wants and needs of our own circle of family and friends. It is not materialistic to reward those possessive of talents in areas that are not common to the masses, such as medicine, business, and technology because it gives incentive for the full development of those talents to the benefit of society.
    Assuming that someone will completely subjugate their own and their family’s needs in order to provide for others when the time, commitment and talent required to produce specialized skills is required is either ignorance or avarice talking. Not everyone can become a physician, and only a foolish person trusts a plumber with the lives of their children. According to your way of thinking, the incentive to sacrifice what is necessary to become an accomplished professional should just be offered up to society with no more expectation of reward than would be offered a day laborer, especially when, in every community, there are those who are more committed to living off the largesse of others than contributing their fair share. It is not common for small communities to be able to provide these things.
    And here’s another problem…Marxism conceives of just such communities, on a small scale being guided by strict governmental oversight without the freedom to decide who will do what and how much they will be paid. The only way to enforce such a system on a large scale is through the committed application of brutal fascism. Why would that be needed? Simple. Because, when you begin with a ludicrous contention that humans are not genetically hardwired to first and foremost protect their own families interests before considering the interests of society, NOTHING that follows is possible because the initial assumption was irredeemably and foolishly erroneous. A society comprised of those who are constantly forced, through the threat of severe punishment, to cooperate, is destined to the exact same fate as that of the Soviet Union and the eastern bloc countries. China tried it and they have had to radically back off these ideas in order to not suffer the same fate. North Korea is a perfect example of the application of these ridiculous assumptions.
    All of the societies that have tried this have utterly failed. There is only one result…death. All of these countries murdered millions of their own citizens in order to bring about (as Mao described it) the “shining path into the future”. And it had NOTHING to do with materialism. It had everything to do with power hungry megalomaniacs who see their actions as an infinitely justified end to a means. The end ALWAYS justifies any means in leftist dogma, and THAT is the most dangerous idea ever put into practical action in the history of man. But hey, why should anyone learn anything from the examples of history? Don’t tell me…your way is a more “pure” application of socialism, right? It couldn’t possibly fail, as it has throughout modern history because you’re so much more enlightened than they were. Good luck with that.

  • Anonymous

    I wouldn’t know anything about Socialism either so please stop being snarky. Sorry, I’m really not terribly political- minded, one of the very few who like Glenn’s who aren’t. As far as there being people around who would be complete “takers” instead of contributors we have all dealt with people like that. Seems like there should be Some sort of reward for anyone like that so they will know that anything they do to help, no matter how small, is appreciated. Nobody likes being forced to do ANYTHING so o course punishing doesn’t work. If the person learns they are appreciated they will start ding Moe and more because they like the perks and the feign that comes with helping others. Yeah, it takes time but sometimes that’s what happens. Like giving ribbons and medals for showing up. They soon get tired of watching other people do something and then get interested in having medals that’ll mean something. Before that person knows it they are doing what they always told themselves they wouldn’t. The thing is to get them interested is all. The rest just follows naturally. As for being one thing over another everyone has the capacity to be what it is they want to be but not everyone takes those opportunities nor do they do well with them. So the thing is to have them do what thier talent is. Communal living helps people find those talents and maybe became renaissance people. Oh yeah, getting back to takers instead of contributers, the people who stay that way even after they become interested in doing things because they would much rather be lazy find themselves being kicked out of the community. As it should be since all the person would be is dead weight.

  • Anonymous

    Spoken like a true robotic Communist.

  • Anonymous

    But kicking someone out is never done when socialist principles are applied to government. Those who take and take and take (more than twelve generations in some families) have been trained by the governmental system to destroy their lives. The government punishes industry and rewards laziness, antisocial behavior and broken families. Communal living does not work when applied on a long term scale. It’s been tried over and over again, and it fails because of the basic denial of human nature inherent to such endeavors.
    When government sanctioned theft is the order of the day through taxes, it discourages personal generosity because those being forced into it are already giving a huge chunk of their income to pay for those who do not contribute. The fastest way to encourage productivity is to stop rewarding laziness and destructive behaviors.
    Sorry you think I’m snarky, but by your own admission you don’t know much about this. Perhaps if you said that at the beginning, I wouldn’t hold you to the same standard. That being said, there is no reason why you can’t find out the facts. There are too many people in this country voting with no understanding of history, issues, etc. and there’s no reason for it. We’ve never had such easy access to information. You might find that there are things that pique your interest that you can come to understand quite well and be able to converse from the standpoint of knowledge.

  • Anonymous

    It doesn’t sound like government is doing communism or socialism if they turn people into takers. They are doing something completely different only who knows what that different thing might be. It sounds like President Obama and his staff actually don’t want to just hand people stuff, they want people to have the dignity and pride that comes from contributing to society. The thing with government prove is there is really no way of knowing if the people who are getting those handouts are actually bettering themselves with what they get. It’s not the government or the program that is at fault, it’s the people who are on it using it in ways the program was never intended to do. The president DID say in his first term speeches that he wanted people to be held accountable for what they get from the government. Which is probably one of the reasons for all the NSA spying. Not only to know how government can help people out during daily life but finding out if the are also being responsible for themselves and each other so life can be as good as possible for the most amount of people.

  • Anonymous

    No, that’s capitalism. Pure capitalism could not exist without government. You’ll find no example of that in the world or history.

  • Anonymous

    Fawnday, very little of what you just said made any sense. Of COURSE we know whether they’re using welfare to improve themselves. How do we know? Because many families stay on welfare, more than 12 generations worth in some cases. The problem is, the more welfare offered, the more is wanted. Why would anyone work when someone is dumb enough to pay them not to work?
    So far as using the NSA to make certain that welfare recipients are using the money appropriately…that’s so far off the mark, it’s ludicrous. I’m trying to be nice about this, but you really need to learn some things about the way the world works before attempting to argue points on a political website. Your word cadence and usage, your syntax and text-like typing and the timbre of your speech patterns is indicative of someone who is very young. Give yourself some time to study, learn and grow. Then, maybe some of the idealism you obviously feel will have more meaning.

  • Anonymous

    The more welfare that is offered the more is wanted? And why would someone want to work when they get paid not to? Well, personal experience says that there are some people who HAVE jobs due to using the welfare checks appropriately. The whole reason I voted for President Obama in 2008 was because his idea about holding people accountable sounded really good. There are loads of people who are on disability who not only don’t need to be on it but who give a bad name to those of us who legitimately use it. Also, lots of people who get it work as well not just to help pad what we get but because we enjoy staying busy. As I said last post it’s not the programs or the government handing things out that have the fault, its the people who get it who decide how it will be used. The War On Poverty would most likely have done better for itself had the people who sighed up to get government money also had to take mandatory financial literacy classes.

  • Anonymous

    You typed so much and said so little. Ever thought of having facts in your argument?

    Either way I do this for fun. I truly have little interest in the future of Americans. If my family is ok everything else including this country means nothing.

  • Anonymous

    Sh%$ in one hand and wish in the other, tell me which one fills up faster, then pull your head out of your a%#.

  • Anonymous

    Should businesses be allowed to use government power against other businesses? Should the caveman be allowed to patent the wheel?

    We are destroying ourselves being the future technology is already here but it’s being bought by massive corporations and if you dare build it they will come. Worry not because China will build it and they will come.

    The true danger in this country are the major businesses that should be in the history books but because they have infested government to such a great extent we are stuck with them.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t believe anyone should be forced into any patterns. If your socialist like me and want to group with like minded people, I think you have the right. If you want to live in the mountains and not pay any taxes I think you should have the right. I only think we need rules of the road. If you don’t pay taxes and are caught using tax payer funded products or services you should be severely punished, not with death but major fines. You don’t pay for it, so why should yo use it? I find it so ironic how so many religious are against socialism when so much of religion is based on some form of socialism weather people want to believe it or not.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, it was the pacific!

    have another beer and I will keep my crown.

  • Anonymous

    The Bible abhors socialism WHETHER you want to believe it or not. Why do you think illiterate atheists always embrace it?