PAT: All right. So yesterday Stu defended Chris Cuomo from CNN.
STU: It's not something I'm going to put in the family history, I'll tell you that. It was not a proud moment.
JEFFY: We didn't believe that yesterday.
PAT: This was a week of shame for you.
STU: It is.
PAT: A week of incredible shame. This guy is in the douche Hall of Fame.
STU: Chris Cuomo, 97 percent of the voters or something like that. It's difficult to defend at times.
STU: But I will attempt I think a Guinness Book of World Record here today on the program.
STU: For the most consecutive days a human being has ever defended Chris Cuomo. And of course the record would be two. That is. That's it. Yesterday he -- Chris Cuomo was tweeted about by Donald Trump, and he said -- Trump said he wouldn't even ask Richard Blumenthal about his Vietnam service; right? That was the controversy yesterday. I'm not saying this happens often. But I happened to be listening to that interview.
PAT: As I said, I think you've fallen in love with Chris Cuomo --
STU: Let me get the facts out there.
PAT: Get the facts out.
STU: Literally the first question of the interview was about the Vietnam service of Richard Blumenthal. It was the first question.
PAT: Yeah. There's a lot to criticize about Chris Cuomo. You don't need to make stuff up.
STU: Yes, exactly. Trump probably joined the interview late. But some of his advisers should probably tell him wait a minute. Before you tweet that, just so you know, that was the first question. So I think that was a defense of Chris Cuomo.
JEFFY: Let me ask you a question. When was the last time you listened to Chris Cuomo?
PAT: It was on the 12th of never.
STU: At never o'clock? Yeah, I caught that one too. Normally that's the one that I catch. That's the airing of the show that I catch. But I happened to catch that one. Okay?
So that turned Chris Cuomo -- and, look, he was handed a gift; right? Everyone's saying that Donald Trump is saying all of these fake things. It's his interview. He obviously has video of him asking the question. So all day yesterday he was all over the media saying, hey, Donald Trump lied about me. Donald Trump lied about me, and he came up with this point that he thought was a great point, and he made it on several different mediums. He made it on his show, apparently Mike Smerconish's show on Sirius XM. Here's a version of it. And, again, it's not a loud point.
I see being called fake news as the equivalent of the N word for journalists. The equivalent of calling an Italian any of the ugly words that people have for that ethnicity. That's what fake news is to a journalist. It is an ugly insult, and you better be right if you're going to charge a journalist with lying on purpose. And the president was not right here, and he has not been right in the past.
PAT: Okay. So the uproar. I haven't even paid attention to the uproar. But it's the comparison. Compares African-Americans to journalists.
STU: Exactly. And it's sad for Chris because he goes on his victory tour on the media to show how he was actually right for once.
STU: And what happens? He says this. And he said very similar thing on CNN. Similar to a racial slur to a journalist. You're comparing African-Americans to fake news. Accusation of journalists.
No, everyone on earth knows what he's doing. What he's saying is if you know a journalist is lying to a journalist, it's a really big insult. And here's another example of a really big insult. I love the fact that he can't even bring himself to say what these words are. Obviously, we're all at the point where we say the N word; right? Which is fine with me. But he can't even bring himself -- and he is Italian; right? He can't even bring himself to say one of the slurs. It's like one of those slurs against Italians that people come up with.
PAT: One of them begins with a letter near the end of the alphabet.
STU: Wait, what? No, of course. This is the media's creation; right?
STU: The reason why he can't say number one why he can't say the word that he wants to say about Italians. Number two, it's also a media creation that he has to now come up and apologize today or -- actually, yesterday. He said I was wrong. Calling a journalist fake. Nothing compared to the pain of a racial slur. I should not have said it. I apologize.
Everyone who heard this knows he was not comparing the pain of a racial slur to saying fake news is insulting to journalists. It is not the same thing. Essaying that it's a real insult to me personally when you say that I -- I would make something up like that. And it's just as offensive to me as it is to other people who are offended in other ways.
PAT: So he's not saying he's now been through slavery because he was accused of fake news?
STU: Journalists victims of Jim Crow laws. He's not saying that. He's not saying he was hit by a firehose at any point in the day. Does he really need to make disclaimers? Knows exactly what he was saying. And I know this is trying to set a Chris Cuomo defense record here. But if this happened with someone else, Chris Cuomo would be critical of them.
And just like everybody else in the media would act as if they didn't understand what was going on, and they would all criticize some Republican politician. It certainly happened to us and other talk show hosts. It's happened to comedians. It has happened to everyone. No one believes that Chris Cuomo was comparing his actual plight to that of racial slurs and racial animus that has happened over the past couple hundred years.
No, he was just saying one of the biggest criticisms, the most offensive thing you can say to a journalist is to say that they're making up news because that's their line of work. It's like any industry could make this point. If you were to say, you know, a chef wasn't using fresh ingredients. That's like saying a racial slur. It's just him saying that's what's important to me in my job. I want people to believe I'm credible. And he did absolutely nothing wrong there. Absolutely nothing wrong. Yet, we all have to act as if we think he was saying this crazy thing and minimizing the plight of African-Americans. He was not minimizing the plight. He was saying it was important to him in a colorful way.
The same thing someone brings up a point about the Nazis. Everyone says how dare you. Is Jerry Seinfeld comparing his experience at a soup restaurant to the plight of the Nazis? No, soup Nazi is just a way saying the guy was tough. Has stringent rules to fall.
Everybody knew that. Nobody thought wow is he saying the person at the soup restaurant is putting people into concentration camps?
No, so for whatever reason, we have chosen as a society with the media leading this process to all be children. And to all act as if we don't understand what other people saying so that we can feel some weird outrage that for whatever reason we want to feel. I don't understand why people want to go through life feeling outraged from this like this. But, man, do they and Chris Cuomo plays to his apology. Which I'm sorry someone at CNN said you guys need to apologize over there. And he went out, and he did it.
And I can't imagine -- because he said it on multiple shows. This was not the only time he said it. He obviously thought it was a fine point to make. It's just ridiculous. You know, society gets boring if you live by these standards.
PAT: On the other hand, I will say that he is now being bitten by his own standards. Because he helped create that. He helped create that society in which we can't. He's saying that was offense to him just as being called a racial slur is offensive to other people of different ethnicities. So it's almost -- it's almost poetic justice.
STU: It is, I guess. But I am, it's still wrong. They've been Chris Cuomo deserves it. Everyone in the media deserves it. It's still wrong.
PAT: He does deserve it.
STU: And the reason why you do that is because it's an interesting way of phrasing it. It makes you think about it a little bit. If you were to say this. You know, calling a journalist fake news is the same as calling a doorman as someone who let's in people who don't -- haven't filled out correct paperwork.
That's interesting. I would assume a doorman wants to be responsible and says, hey, I only let the right people in the door. But no one cares about that. It's a terrible example. Everybody would be, like, why the hell -- a doorman? No, you use the example everyone seems to know, and you -- by the way, that's my wife calling in the middle of the show. Thank you, honey. Gee, I don't know. What do you think I'm doing right now?
PAT: Surprise that we're on this time of the day.
STU: Shocking development.
PAT: When did that begin? What? 15, 20 years ago?
STU: It's weird, we met each other I was doing a show at this time, and I'm currently doing a show at this time. But that's just dumb. You're right, though. It is a creation of the media.
STU: It is a creation of --
PAT: It's liberals eating their own, and I always love that.
STU: I know.
PAT: So I'm not nearly as passionate about this as you are because he deserves every bit of it. Every bit of it.
STU: In two weeks, some host Mr. Will say something like this, and Chris Cuomo will do a show where he's bashing the guy.
PAT: Yes, he will.
STU: And that's the problem. This is the moment I like to talk about it. Because it's not one of our own, but it's still wrong. It's still ridiculous. Our society is ridiculous on something like that. This is a guy who has been voted into the Pat and Stu douche Hall of Fame. This is not a guy I like defending. It's really problematic. Really, my life history. This is going to be a mark on my family's history.
PAT: No doubt about it. There's a lot of shame.
STU: Yeah, it is. There was a lot of shame associated. Just so you know, I think it's still the right thing to do.
PAT: And it does show consistency. I mean, we are consistent with that; right? Almost he find it happens to somebody.
JEFFY: It sure does.
PAT: And it would be nice if we could be adults and realize that's not what's happening. But, again, Chris Cuomo helped create that environment. And now he's being punished by that environment.
STU: It's their standard.
PAT: It is.
STU: It's just a terrible standard.
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PAT: It's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy on the Glenn Beck program. (888) 727-Beck. They put a hold on the travel ban situation. The Ninth Circuit court came through again with some weird ruling and have decided that this can't happen right now, at least. And that's about all it did; right? It just stopped it for now.
STU: Yeah, just for the month. Basically, Trump wanted to say, well, we should be able to do this until you decide whether it's okay or not. And the other side was saying "Well, no, we need to stop it until we figure out whether it's okay or not."
So they decided with that part of it. They're going to stop it until they figure out whether it's okay or not. Really, this whole story, we should go through this at some point today. It is the biggest story that is actually the smallest story. None of this is all that important, to be perfectly honest. This is not a big -- this is not that big of a deal. You know, it just delays it a little bit. But, you know, we just went through eight years without it. If it's eight years and three months, it's not that big of a deal. And remember, it was only a temporary ban anyway. It only lasted for three months.
STU: So it's not that big of a deal. It's just we can't have a small story anymore. It almost seems like it's impossible for -- especially when it has to do with Donald Trump. Because this all starts with the media freaking out over something that is not that big of a deal.
STU: And then the Trump administration freaks out because they're freaking out. And it winds up leading to just nonstop craziness.
PAT: And then Bashar Assad,the president of Syria has contributed to hysteria involving the story because he weighed in, and he said -- he told Yahoo News yesterday that some of the refugees that are coming are definitely -- quote definitely terrorists.
Well, thank you very much. But that contributes to the hysteria. He said you can find it on the Internet. Those terrorists in Syria holding the machine gun killing people, they appear as peaceful refugees in Syria or the west. You don't need a significant number to commit atrocities. He noted that the 9/11 attacks were pulled off by fewer than 20 terrorists. Out of maybe millions of immigrants in the United States. So it's not about the number. It's about the quality. It's about the intentions. And he's right about that.
STU: Of course. I mean, you can't you cannot eliminate it. You cannot eliminate the possibility. And, you know, this comes from not only refugees. It comes from immigrants from Mexico, it comes from immigrants from European nations. It comes from your own citizens. You can't eliminate it. You try very hard to make sure you are not importing crime. That is a very reasonable request.
JEFFY: I will say Bashar Assad's motives may be questionable.
PAT: He's cozy with Russia.
STU: With Russia, obviously. So you think he has a reason to do this.
PAT: He might want us a little bit more involved in that civil war.
STU: Right. Not to mention --
STU: If you're a refugee from Syria, likely what you're saying is the Assad regime is terrible, and I need to leave; right?
STU: So he has a reason to say that these people, they're not being honest. It's not terrible here. It's not my fault. It's those are the guys are the bad guys. Look at them. They have machine guns, they're terrorists. So he is obviously motivated. But plainly that analysis is true. Almost definitely we're going to miss somebody; right? If we start --
PAT: We've done it in the past, and we'll do it in the future.
STU: Absolutely. If you think government can handle tasks like this, you have a lot more faith in government than I do. However, you can make this statement about everybody coming into this country. You can make it with tourist visas. I mean, any time you're having anyone come visit you theoretically they could be a terrorist, you know? In Syria, and the reason why this travel ban and the reason why they picked these seven countries, by the way, outlined by the Obama administration first as highly risky is you're trying to improve your percentages.
STU: We all know that someone from Norway could come here and be terrorist. One of the biggest mass shooting on the planet was Norway; right? You never know who you're importing. It's not that. You just try to increase your percentages.
PAT: So the answer of course is don't import anyone. Don't let anyone come visit. Ever.
STU: Ever. Stay off my lawn.
PAT: We're closed.