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The Saga Continues: Day Two of Stu Defending Douche Hall of Famer Chris Cuomo

Will this ever end? If only CNN's Chris Cuomo would shut his trap this could all be over.

"I will attempt, I think, a Guinness Book of World Record here today on the program for the most consecutive days a human being has ever defended Chris Cuomo. And, of course, the record would be two," Co-host Stu Burguiere said Friday on radio.

The background here is that Chris Cuomo interview Sen. Blumenthal (D-CT), asking him about the false claim made that he'd served in Vietnam. President Trump evidently missed that portion of the interview and scolded Cuomo via Twitter about fake news, prompting the sensitive reporter to go on multiple news outlets comparing the insult to a minority hear the "N-word." Got that?

"Everyone who heard this knows he was not comparing the pain of a racial slur to saying fake news is insulting to journalists. It is not the same thing," Stu said.

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

PAT: All right. So yesterday Stu defended Chris Cuomo from CNN.

STU: It's not something I'm going to put in the family history, I'll tell you that. It was not a proud moment.

JEFFY: We didn't believe that yesterday.

PAT: This was a week of shame for you.

STU: It is.

PAT: A week of incredible shame. This guy is in the douche Hall of Fame.

STU: Chris Cuomo, 97 percent of the voters or something like that. It's difficult to defend at times.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: But I will attempt I think a Guinness Book of World Record here today on the program.

PAT: Uh-huh.

STU: For the most consecutive days a human being has ever defended Chris Cuomo. And of course the record would be two. That is. That's it. Yesterday he -- Chris Cuomo was tweeted about by Donald Trump, and he said -- Trump said he wouldn't even ask Richard Blumenthal about his Vietnam service; right? That was the controversy yesterday. I'm not saying this happens often. But I happened to be listening to that interview.

PAT: As I said, I think you've fallen in love with Chris Cuomo --

STU: Let me get the facts out there.

PAT: Get the facts out.

STU: Literally the first question of the interview was about the Vietnam service of Richard Blumenthal. It was the first question.

PAT: Yeah. There's a lot to criticize about Chris Cuomo. You don't need to make stuff up.

STU: Yes, exactly. Trump probably joined the interview late. But some of his advisers should probably tell him wait a minute. Before you tweet that, just so you know, that was the first question. So I think that was a defense of Chris Cuomo.

JEFFY: Let me ask you a question. When was the last time you listened to Chris Cuomo?

PAT: It was on the 12th of never.

STU: At never o'clock? Yeah, I caught that one too. Normally that's the one that I catch. That's the airing of the show that I catch. But I happened to catch that one. Okay?

So that turned Chris Cuomo -- and, look, he was handed a gift; right? Everyone's saying that Donald Trump is saying all of these fake things. It's his interview. He obviously has video of him asking the question. So all day yesterday he was all over the media saying, hey, Donald Trump lied about me. Donald Trump lied about me, and he came up with this point that he thought was a great point, and he made it on several different mediums. He made it on his show, apparently Mike Smerconish's show on Sirius XM. Here's a version of it. And, again, it's not a loud point.

I see being called fake news as the equivalent of the N word for journalists. The equivalent of calling an Italian any of the ugly words that people have for that ethnicity. That's what fake news is to a journalist. It is an ugly insult, and you better be right if you're going to charge a journalist with lying on purpose. And the president was not right here, and he has not been right in the past.

PAT: Okay. So the uproar. I haven't even paid attention to the uproar. But it's the comparison. Compares African-Americans to journalists.

STU: Exactly. And it's sad for Chris because he goes on his victory tour on the media to show how he was actually right for once.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: And what happens? He says this. And he said very similar thing on CNN. Similar to a racial slur to a journalist. You're comparing African-Americans to fake news. Accusation of journalists.

No, everyone on earth knows what he's doing. What he's saying is if you know a journalist is lying to a journalist, it's a really big insult. And here's another example of a really big insult. I love the fact that he can't even bring himself to say what these words are. Obviously, we're all at the point where we say the N word; right? Which is fine with me. But he can't even bring himself -- and he is Italian; right? He can't even bring himself to say one of the slurs. It's like one of those slurs against Italians that people come up with.

[Laughter]

PAT: One of them begins with a letter near the end of the alphabet.

STU: Wait, what? No, of course. This is the media's creation; right?

PAT: Yeah.

STU: The reason why he can't say number one why he can't say the word that he wants to say about Italians. Number two, it's also a media creation that he has to now come up and apologize today or -- actually, yesterday. He said I was wrong. Calling a journalist fake. Nothing compared to the pain of a racial slur. I should not have said it. I apologize.

Everyone who heard this knows he was not comparing the pain of a racial slur to saying fake news is insulting to journalists. It is not the same thing. Essaying that it's a real insult to me personally when you say that I -- I would make something up like that. And it's just as offensive to me as it is to other people who are offended in other ways.

PAT: So he's not saying he's now been through slavery because he was accused of fake news?

STU: Journalists victims of Jim Crow laws. He's not saying that. He's not saying he was hit by a firehose at any point in the day. Does he really need to make disclaimers? Knows exactly what he was saying. And I know this is trying to set a Chris Cuomo defense record here. But if this happened with someone else, Chris Cuomo would be critical of them.

And just like everybody else in the media would act as if they didn't understand what was going on, and they would all criticize some Republican politician. It certainly happened to us and other talk show hosts. It's happened to comedians. It has happened to everyone. No one believes that Chris Cuomo was comparing his actual plight to that of racial slurs and racial animus that has happened over the past couple hundred years.

No, he was just saying one of the biggest criticisms, the most offensive thing you can say to a journalist is to say that they're making up news because that's their line of work. It's like any industry could make this point. If you were to say, you know, a chef wasn't using fresh ingredients. That's like saying a racial slur. It's just him saying that's what's important to me in my job. I want people to believe I'm credible. And he did absolutely nothing wrong there. Absolutely nothing wrong. Yet, we all have to act as if we think he was saying this crazy thing and minimizing the plight of African-Americans. He was not minimizing the plight. He was saying it was important to him in a colorful way.

The same thing someone brings up a point about the Nazis. Everyone says how dare you. Is Jerry Seinfeld comparing his experience at a soup restaurant to the plight of the Nazis? No, soup Nazi is just a way saying the guy was tough. Has stringent rules to fall.

Everybody knew that. Nobody thought wow is he saying the person at the soup restaurant is putting people into concentration camps?

No, so for whatever reason, we have chosen as a society with the media leading this process to all be children. And to all act as if we don't understand what other people saying so that we can feel some weird outrage that for whatever reason we want to feel. I don't understand why people want to go through life feeling outraged from this like this. But, man, do they and Chris Cuomo plays to his apology. Which I'm sorry someone at CNN said you guys need to apologize over there. And he went out, and he did it.

And I can't imagine -- because he said it on multiple shows. This was not the only time he said it. He obviously thought it was a fine point to make. It's just ridiculous. You know, society gets boring if you live by these standards.

PAT: On the other hand, I will say that he is now being bitten by his own standards. Because he helped create that. He helped create that society in which we can't. He's saying that was offense to him just as being called a racial slur is offensive to other people of different ethnicities. So it's almost -- it's almost poetic justice.

STU: It is, I guess. But I am, it's still wrong. They've been Chris Cuomo deserves it. Everyone in the media deserves it. It's still wrong.

PAT: He does deserve it.

STU: And the reason why you do that is because it's an interesting way of phrasing it. It makes you think about it a little bit. If you were to say this. You know, calling a journalist fake news is the same as calling a doorman as someone who let's in people who don't -- haven't filled out correct paperwork.

That's interesting. I would assume a doorman wants to be responsible and says, hey, I only let the right people in the door. But no one cares about that. It's a terrible example. Everybody would be, like, why the hell -- a doorman? No, you use the example everyone seems to know, and you -- by the way, that's my wife calling in the middle of the show. Thank you, honey. Gee, I don't know. What do you think I'm doing right now?

[Laughter]

PAT: Surprise that we're on this time of the day.

STU: Shocking development.

PAT: When did that begin? What? 15, 20 years ago?

[Laughter]

STU: It's weird, we met each other I was doing a show at this time, and I'm currently doing a show at this time. But that's just dumb. You're right, though. It is a creation of the media.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: It is a creation of --

PAT: It's liberals eating their own, and I always love that.

STU: I know.

PAT: So I'm not nearly as passionate about this as you are because he deserves every bit of it. Every bit of it.

STU: In two weeks, some host Mr. Will say something like this, and Chris Cuomo will do a show where he's bashing the guy.

PAT: Yes, he will.

STU: And that's the problem. This is the moment I like to talk about it. Because it's not one of our own, but it's still wrong. It's still ridiculous. Our society is ridiculous on something like that. This is a guy who has been voted into the Pat and Stu douche Hall of Fame. This is not a guy I like defending. It's really problematic. Really, my life history. This is going to be a mark on my family's history.

PAT: No doubt about it. There's a lot of shame.

STU: Yeah, it is. There was a lot of shame associated. Just so you know, I think it's still the right thing to do.

PAT: And it does show consistency. I mean, we are consistent with that; right? Almost he find it happens to somebody.

JEFFY: It sure does.

PAT: And it would be nice if we could be adults and realize that's not what's happening. But, again, Chris Cuomo helped create that environment. And now he's being punished by that environment.

STU: It's their standard.

PAT: It is.

STU: It's just a terrible standard.

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PAT: It's Pat, Stu, and Jeffy on the Glenn Beck program. (888) 727-Beck. They put a hold on the travel ban situation. The Ninth Circuit court came through again with some weird ruling and have decided that this can't happen right now, at least. And that's about all it did; right? It just stopped it for now.

STU: Yeah, just for the month. Basically, Trump wanted to say, well, we should be able to do this until you decide whether it's okay or not. And the other side was saying "Well, no, we need to stop it until we figure out whether it's okay or not."

So they decided with that part of it. They're going to stop it until they figure out whether it's okay or not. Really, this whole story, we should go through this at some point today. It is the biggest story that is actually the smallest story. None of this is all that important, to be perfectly honest. This is not a big -- this is not that big of a deal. You know, it just delays it a little bit. But, you know, we just went through eight years without it. If it's eight years and three months, it's not that big of a deal. And remember, it was only a temporary ban anyway. It only lasted for three months.

PAT: Uh-huh.

STU: So it's not that big of a deal. It's just we can't have a small story anymore. It almost seems like it's impossible for -- especially when it has to do with Donald Trump. Because this all starts with the media freaking out over something that is not that big of a deal.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: And then the Trump administration freaks out because they're freaking out. And it winds up leading to just nonstop craziness.

PAT: And then Bashar Assad,the president of Syria has contributed to hysteria involving the story because he weighed in, and he said -- he told Yahoo News yesterday that some of the refugees that are coming are definitely -- quote definitely terrorists.

Well, thank you very much. But that contributes to the hysteria. He said you can find it on the Internet. Those terrorists in Syria holding the machine gun killing people, they appear as peaceful refugees in Syria or the west. You don't need a significant number to commit atrocities. He noted that the 9/11 attacks were pulled off by fewer than 20 terrorists. Out of maybe millions of immigrants in the United States. So it's not about the number. It's about the quality. It's about the intentions. And he's right about that.

STU: Of course. I mean, you can't you cannot eliminate it. You cannot eliminate the possibility. And, you know, this comes from not only refugees. It comes from immigrants from Mexico, it comes from immigrants from European nations. It comes from your own citizens. You can't eliminate it. You try very hard to make sure you are not importing crime. That is a very reasonable request.

JEFFY: I will say Bashar Assad's motives may be questionable.

PAT: He's cozy with Russia.

STU: With Russia, obviously. So you think he has a reason to do this.

PAT: He might want us a little bit more involved in that civil war.

STU: Right. Not to mention --

JEFFY: Absolutely.

STU: If you're a refugee from Syria, likely what you're saying is the Assad regime is terrible, and I need to leave; right?

PAT: Yeah.

STU: So he has a reason to say that these people, they're not being honest. It's not terrible here. It's not my fault. It's those are the guys are the bad guys. Look at them. They have machine guns, they're terrorists. So he is obviously motivated. But plainly that analysis is true. Almost definitely we're going to miss somebody; right? If we start --

PAT: We've done it in the past, and we'll do it in the future.

STU: Absolutely. If you think government can handle tasks like this, you have a lot more faith in government than I do. However, you can make this statement about everybody coming into this country. You can make it with tourist visas. I mean, any time you're having anyone come visit you theoretically they could be a terrorist, you know? In Syria, and the reason why this travel ban and the reason why they picked these seven countries, by the way, outlined by the Obama administration first as highly risky is you're trying to improve your percentages.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: We all know that someone from Norway could come here and be terrorist. One of the biggest mass shooting on the planet was Norway; right? You never know who you're importing. It's not that. You just try to increase your percentages.

PAT: So the answer of course is don't import anyone. Don't let anyone come visit. Ever.

STU: Ever. Stay off my lawn.

PAT: We're closed.

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Glenn: I didn't think Roe v Wade would end in my lifetime

GLENN: We just have to take a minute, and just think of the miracle we just witnessed.

There isn't a soul, not one soul, in this audience that thought that this would happen. Like this. This fast.

I didn't think it would happen in my lifetime.

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'This is how I spend my vacation': Glenn gives behind-the-scenes look at new radio theme recording

If you have ever wondered where Glenn gets the music for his radio show or assumed he used pre-made stock music or cheap computer software, now you know, it’s the real deal. Glenn's vacation technically started this week, but that couldn't keep him away from his natural habitat—the recording studio—where he spent several hours working on an updated radio theme track with pro composer Sam Cardon and Millennial Choirs & Orchestras (MCO).

Glenn was looking for something that sounded more urgent, and from the preview Glenn shared, it sounds like the creative team nailed it. The epic score sounds like it would easily feel at home in a Lord of the Rings or Star Wars film.

The new theme will be on air at a future date, but if you can’t wait, make sure to watch the video for a sneak peak!

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Glenn's message to his son's birth mom: THANK YOU

‘I truly thank God for living in these times,’ Glenn says. ‘Look at the miracles that are happening,’ he adds, just moments after the Supreme Court ruled to overturn Roe v. Wade. No matter how much America changes, it’s still the greatest place on earth…and the Supreme Court victories we’ve witnessed in the last week — by justices who truly value the Constitution — prove it, Glenn explains. But there’s still work to be done. Glenn shares a story about his son’s birth mom — a teenager who decided to give her baby a chance to live — and he gives a message for us all: Now is a time for compassion toward ALL pregnant women, no matter the decisions they make...

Transcript

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GLENN: You know, I -- I just walked outside. I have a barn here on the ranch. And it's where my broadcast studio is. And I just walked out to get some fresh air a few minutes ago. And it's -- this is a day that you will remember where you were. Whatever side you were on, you will remember this day. And I walk outside, and my son and another guy standing by this enormous tractor. And he is hitching it up to a trailer. Because they're moving a bunch of logs from one field to another, because they're building a corral. And I don't have my glasses on. And I'm looking. And I'm like, is that Raphe? And I can't -- I'm not sure. Because he's a man. This is the first summer, where he's up here. And he is a man. And it was an interesting thought to have about my son. Who now, in a couple months. Eighteen years ago. A very brave young teenager decided not to have an abortion. Decided that he had nothing to do with her mistake, or whatever happened.

And I remember we prayed so hard for a baby. And I felt almost from the beginning. That we were supposed to adopt.
And this is really hard for moms. Really hard. Baby not from her body. And I think as guys we don't understand that. Because I don't want anything coming out of my body. And if something comes out of my body, I'm not putting it in swaddling clothes, I'm telling you that. And we both wanted her -- how is this going to work? And there is something about God, that he is my son. And there is no difference between him and any of my other children. None. Zero. Not even a shadow.
Just by chance. If his birth mother happens to be listening or his birth grandparents happen to be listening, thank you. Thank you for giving this young man a chance to live. He is -- well, he's been a pain in the ass. But he's also my greatest joy.
We have to look at the things that we do now. Because there's a lot of -- she was 14, I think. Imagine being a 14-year-old. I remember she called her mom, because she -- she went to school. And she had to tell her mom. But she couldn't look her in the eye and tell her. So she called. Didn't know what her mom would say. And her mom was so great. She immediately said, come home, sweetheart. Come home. And they worked it out together what was going to happen.
People who fight for the right to abort children say, you know, who is going to take care of them? There's lots of us. Lots of us. Millions of us. Millions. Millions of us.
You know, today, Roe vs. Wade was -- it came to an end. Catholics would point out on the -- on the feast of the sacred heart of Jesus. And I doubt that they think that's just a coincidence. Because we know that the heart of Christ, I mean, the only thing he really got smoked at, was children. Being abused. It was clear, he liked children, much more, you know, than us adults. But then, again, I don't blame him. I do too. But we can't just think of the children today that are going to be saved, and then say, that's a good thing.
We have to think of the moms. And, you know, I'm like this with Christians who just really want to get people baptized. They don't really care. It's all about the number. You want to bring somebody closer to God, in baptism, that is a fantastic gift. Not from you. But from God. Fantastic. But no one is going to do that. If you don't actually love them. The people who -- the people who need salvation. They don't think anybody loves them. The women who are pregnant, most, not all. But most, who are pregnant. They feel trapped. They don't know what they're going to do. We have to be there for them. Not just during the time they're pregnant. But if they choose to keep the child. To help them. To support them.
You know, it's so funny. I guess we both give up on, you know, once the baby is aborted. Or the baby is saved. Then society auto both sides kind of just turns away. Planned Parenthood, are they concerned about the mental health? Because they deny it. No, no, no. People are celebrating their abortions. I don't think so. I don't think you can do that. And you may have felt like there was absolutely no way out. But at some point, that's going to -- it will haunt you. What could have been. Think about just the mistakes you will make in your life. And how they bother you. I shouldn't have said that. I mean, there were times in my life, where I said things to my mom, or whatever. I carried those things around for 25 years.
We have to have compassion for -- for all of these women. Now, if you're going to use this for contraception. I don't really -- I don't know how to talk to you. I'll try. But I don't know how I can relate. Because -- but I'm hoping most people aren't like that. I'm hoping that's the anomaly in our society. That just thinks, this is the way to have birth control. And one more thing on birth control.
Why is that still a prescription? I would like to say I'm not a doctor. But technically I am. But I'm not sure why that's still a prescription. Don't we know what that does? I mean, are we pretty sure? Yeah. That's what -- that's what happens. This is all it does. It's a pretty safe drug. Do we not just trust people to use only as directed?
I mean, we -- we trust people. I mean, I see stuff all the time. That says, do not drink. Okay. Well, it's turpentine, so I'm not going to drink it. But thank you for trusting me to know I'm smart enough not to do that. Don't put in eyes. Okay. I'm going to make sure that I don't put that -- you know, that cream in my eyes. Thank you. Good safety tip.
I mean, just making contraception over-the-counter. The pill over-the-counter. Would be helpful. Wouldn't it?
It's a lot better to have them get a pill over-the-counter, like that, than have our daughters or anybody else think about the abortion drug, that the FDA now will make sure that everybody can get. That thing is brutal. That is -- that's brutal.
Anyway, I truly -- as I go on vacation in a minute, I truly thank God for living in these times. It's -- would you live at any other time? I mean, I'm a little selfish. Because I'm a whiner. Absolutely, positively nothing before air-conditioning. Nothing before air-conditioning. I even would say, I want to still live in a time where all my meat comes from a counter on a little plastic, Styrofoam tray. Really, that's about as roughing it, as I want to go. I don't want to go past those two things. Indoor toilets. Yeah. But look at the times we live it in now. The miracles that are happening. The miracles of science. The freedoms that we do have.
I have a guy who is on my staff. He's from Scotland. And once in a while, he gets tired of me hearing, this country is just -- and he's like, come to Scotland. Come to England. He's like, I know it's not what it was. But it's still the greatest place on earth. And it is.
And just the victories, just this week. There's going to be more I think next week. Just the victories in the Supreme Court. And it's not -- it's not because of ideology. It's because the people who are put on the court now, actually respect the Constitution of the United States.
You know, Clarence Thomas and Kagan ruled together, on -- I don't know. Something with Medicare today.
What! I don't think they could agree on a dinner menu. But that's not because Thomas sold out. Or Kagan sold out. I know with Thomas, at least, that's because he believes that's what the Constitution says. And that's what is so great about it.
It doesn't cut your way every time.
You don't always win. You don't always get your way. Today is a great day. Praise God. Praise good we have taken this huge step today.
Lord, see your people. And keep them safe. And keep the people who are actually working in these pro-life clinics. Our judges. Our police. Our cities.
Please, keep them safe.

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Riots & White House defiance: What may come AFTER Roe ruling

Many members of the far-left already are calling for a ‘Night of Rage’ after the Supreme Court’s 6-3 decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, and the White House has been discussing plans to defy the ruling too. In fact, one idea floated by Biden Administration officials, according to the New York Times, includes providing abortions on military bases. So, will America experience another summer of riots? Are YOUR taxpayer dollars at risk? And what does this mean for deep-blue states? Josh Hammer, legal expert and opinion editor for Newsweek, joins Glenn to discuss what may come next...

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GLENN: Josh Hammer, he's the opinion editor of Newsweek. He's the host of the Josh Hammer show. He is really quite brilliant. One of the leading minds in the conservative movement, I think. Josh Hammer joins us now.

To tell us, what did you find in this decision?

JOSH: Glenn, great to be back with you, on such a momentous, and really such an emotional day, honestly. So, you know, look, as you said, this dropped recently. Funny enough, I was in the middle of getting a guest lecture from an organization on the advisory board as to when it drops. So I barely had any time to kind of skim through, let alone guess the concerning dissenting opinions. But it looks like this looks very similar, to the draft opinion that was leaked, by the Politico story, a month and a half ago, in early May. And I think those of us who were praying that the five justices from this leaked draft opinion, would have the fortitude to stiffen their spines against this unprecedented assault. Now knows that our prayers were answered, Glenn. That's really my takeaway right now.

This looks a lot like the leaked opinion. Justice Thomas and Justice Kavanaugh have some reconcurring opinions.

But unbelievable. And really just holding aside the constitutional law stuff for a second hear. Just speaking as pro-lifers, on a day like today, I think we really just need to pause. And I tweeted this out earlier. We need to just be grateful for our half century of pro-life activist forbearers. You know, this -- Glenn, this issue could have gone away after 1973. That was a long time ago. 1973. I mean, this issue could have just gone away. We owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to the pro-life moral activist. Political activist. And, of course, yes. Legal activist. Who fought day in and day out, that makes sure this great injustice stayed front and center of our national, political conscience. And in many days, the culmination of a half century of fighting for truth and justice. But in many ways, it's also a new beginning for the pro-life fight as well, interestingly.

STU: How do you mean a new beginning for the fight? I just it's going to turn, I think we're going to see abortion turn even darker in those states that allow it. Is that -- is that what you're meaning by this?

JOSH: Well, look, for a half century now, Roe vs. Wade, and its project any, specifically, the Planned Parenthood versus Casey case of 1992.

They took away from the states obviously. They arrogated authority away from the states, the ability to attempt to nationally codify one view of the morality of abortion.

It happened to be a profoundly immoral view. So these -- the fight now shifts to the states. And the pro-life activists. And all the 50 states. Especially, obviously in red states. Purple states. I mean, admittedly some blue states like New York and California, probably won't be able to touch them there.

But we have to make sure that our side is well positioned in the state Capitols for every red, purplish, probably even light blue state, to make sure we fight for successful, cogent, and morally consistent pro-life legislation. The state of Oklahoma, actually, just north of Texas. Right where you are now, Glenn. They have been leading on this actually. Governor Kevin Stitt signed into law, a fantastic pro-life bill there in Oklahoma. A few weeks ago. Maybe a month ago or so at this point, that basically just bans abortion straightforward from conception. And there are some -- you know, obviously, likable the mother. So forth. But we really need to start thinking about trying to craft legislation now, at the state level. But to your point, I do fear that the blue states will only double down in their radicalism. Unfortunately within that will only lead to an ever greater divide, in our country, that we have today. But obviously, at the end of the day. We're going to save at the end of the day, millions and millions of unborn children. We are going to save human beings who can grow up to cure cancer, who can win Nobel prices.

I mean, this is just a tremendous win for the human species. I don't know how to say it other than that.

GLENN: I will tell you, I saw the stat, that I think it was last year or the year before. 20 percent of all pregnancies ended in abortion. 20 percent.

JOSH: Wow.

GLENN: That is -- that is a shocking number. And we do have our -- our work cut out for us. Because I -- I think that these states are going to double down. But I think, you know -- God doesn't waste anything. You know, there is no waste with God. Even the -- even the worst things that could possibly happen, turn out to be something good. You know what I mean? You're like, holy cow, how did that just happen.

And I think that evil is going to fully come unmasked. I'm telling you, Josh. I don't know how you feel about this. I think this could be the day of America's Kristallnacht. I can see these pro-life centers being burned to the ground today. They're calling for a night of rage around the country. I think evil is going to show itself. And that will scare the American people, hopefully.

JOSH: You know, I've been thinking about this a lot this week, actually. Because I've been bracing for a new kind of George Floyd summer of love, happening this summer. Coming to a city or suburb near you. Unfortunately, myself. Look, I live in Florida. I know, Glenn, you live in Texas. It is in moments like this, where I do think that where you live matters. And who your mayor is. Who your governor is, matters.

Because law and order and rioting and anarchy is not really a federal issue. It is to a limited extent. June 2020, Tom Cotton wrote this op-ed that was pretty controversial at the time.

I happen to agree with it. Where he said, quote, unquote, send in the troops. And there is some federal legislation from the reconstruction era that would justify that.

But most kind of quelling and quashing of anarchy does happen. Constitutionally speaking, at the state and local level. So at a moment like this, where I fear that you're probably not wrong. I take some solace. That Governor DeSantis is my governor. I think Texans should take some solace, that they are represented by -- by a Republican governor. The legislature there as well. So I -- I fear that you are right. I pray obviously, that no one -- it's hard.

I fear that it's something -- that something bad is happening. At the end of the day, of course. It does not mean that justices cannot do what they are supposed to do. So thank God they did that.

GLENN: So, Josh, have you looked into what the White House has been saying? The White House yesterday. In fact, do we have a clip of -- of this?

What the White House said yesterday, about the guns. And then they were turned to the -- the Scott us ruling, for Roe vs. Wade. Do we have that, please?

JOSH: Will the president accept this decision, even if he disagrees with it?

VOICE: I think it's going to come from the Supreme Court. So it's a decision we certainly are going to respond to. I'll leave it at that. Just like any other Supreme Court decision. Just like the one they did today on guns.

GLENN: So the White House won't say that they're going to accept it.

Which I don't think they will. They're talking now about taking doctors and moving them into places like Oklahoma or Texas, where abortions will be outlawed. And putting doctors on our military bases to perform abortions.

I mean, where does this go, when you have a government, that is in defiance of -- of one branch of the government?

JOSH: So there's a lot to unpack here. So we should start from first principles. The idea of judicial supremacy, and this is a peculiar thing, to say on a day like today, where such a pro-life victory has happened in Italy. But if we're going to be consistent here, the idea of judicial supremacy. The idea that the justices, have the sole and exclusive ability to interpret the Constitution for themselves. And no other Constitutional actor, in article one or article two, let alone the state. Has the ability to tentatively interpret it. That is erroneous. In fact, actually it was really Abraham Lincoln actually, who in the Dred Scott case, famously opposed judicial supremacy and flouted the Dred Scott ruling, at least as it pertains to everybody other than Dred Scott himself. I have actually argued, a former legal scholarship, in a law review article actually, that the Laconian view of how each branch of government should interpret the Constitution for itself, is correct.

Having said that. Having said that, there is a thing called prudence. And there is a thing called comedy. And in a moment like today, when it really does look like -- and I agree with you, that we are now bracing for riots through the streets. When the political rhetoric is at DEFCON one. When people are trying to assassinate Supreme Court justices. I think it would be -- at its bare minimum, a profoundly imprudent act. For the Biden administration, to try to undermine this ruling.

Now, what they might do, is they might try to kind of issue some kind of executive orders, or issue some regulations, that might try to kind of undermine it, at the edges here. But at the end of the day, the idea that this returns to the state. There's not really a whole lot they can do about that. Basically, at this point, throughout the country. Kentucky within West Virginia. Kansas. Whatever. If they want to go ahead and ban abortion, what can the Biden administration literally do about that? I mean, short of sending in the National Guard, to protect Planned Parenthood, if the state legislature of Kentucky goes ahead and bans it. There's not a whole lot they can do. And it's very difficult to envision a world, in which the Biden administration literally sends in troops to red states, to protect Planned Parenthood, if that state legislature goes ahead and bans it. So for practically speaking. This is a lot of tough talk and rhetoric. Obviously the campaign here in 2022. There's not really a whole lot that practically speaking, they can do to actually prevent red and purple states from enacting pro-life legislation.

GLENN: I'm glad to -- I'm glad to hear that. I know that they have been working on things. I mean, he has said, you know, there's executive orders, that I can employ. There are things that I can do. He's talked about a national public health emergency. Which I think is just -- is crazy. But I would hope, that the president would come out and say, we strongly disagree with this. And you're right. The court is not the end all. But the court did not end abortion. It just said, the people should decide. I think that's the best kind of court ruling, on any of it. The people should decide what this is. And send it back to the states. Josh, I thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Was there -- there was another ruling, that came out today. Was it important?

JOSH: Oh, no. In comparison to this. A total nothing burger. A 5-4 decision on Medicare reimbursement related. So nothing, honestly.

GLENN: Great. Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Josh. Josh Hammer, opinion editor for Newsweek. And the host of the Josh Hammer show.