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Concessions of a Transgendered Wrestler

Texas high school wrestler Mack Beggs recently won the state championship --- the female state championship --- amid controversy that caused some competitors to forfeit rather than wrestle the junior from Trinity High School in Euless, Texas. Beggs, who is transitioning from a girl to a boy, has been taking regular doses of testosterone.

"Take the emotion and the politics out of the transgendered issue for a second, and we'll just talk about how ridiculous it is that a girl who is taking heavy amounts of testosterone --- for a girl, right? --- would be able to compete at all," Co-host Stu Burguiere said Monday on The Glenn Beck Program.

Many argue that the high levels of testosterone, which build strength and muscles, give Beggs an unfair advantage. Begging the question, if it's Beggs' choice to transition, shouldn't she make concessions during the interim to maintain a level playing field? Concessions like not wrestling until the transition is complete?

Enjoy the complimentary clip above or read the transcript below for details.

PAT: We've had this situation where there is a girl who is transitioning to a boy. And she's 17 years old. She's a wrestler. And so she wanted -- apparently, she wanted to wrestle in the boy's division this year, right?

JEFFY: Correct. Correct.

PAT: Because she's making that switch. So she's going from boy to girl.

STU: And the Texas rule is, you compete in the gender that you were born.

PAT: That's on your birth certificate.

STU: Yes.

PAT: Especially I guess as long as you have that genitalia, which she does. She's a girl.

STU: Yeah, I don't know -- if you've gone through the full transition, I don't know -- again, if you're talking about kids, this is a pretty new development. I don't know if they have a rule for that.

PAT: Yeah, I don't either.

STU: I think the rule is the gender you had when you were born.

JEFFY: Yes.

PAT: So that's the rule in Texas because it's hateful. How can you possibly ask somebody to compete in the gender category they were born into, how can you ask that?

STU: You can't, Pat. You can't.

PAT: You can't. Because what if you feel differently? Anyway, she does.

JEFFY: Yes.

PAT: But she was made to -- she was put in the girl's category for wrestling. So she just won the tournament last week.

JEFFY: Yeah, she won the championship.

PAT: She won the championship.

JEFFY: The -- one of the issues is, is that she is actually going through the transition and taking the prescribed medicine to make the change. And so it's working.

PAT: The testosterone.

STU: Right. And, by the way, this ends any argument of all time as to whether men or women are better athletes. Just -- because this whole thing of -- the old Billie Jean King thing back in the day. Let's be honest about it. You take testosterone, you become better and stronger at sports.

PAT: Right.

STU: Sorry.

PAT: Now, that is science. That is science.

JEFFY: That is science.

STU: So sorry. I guess we have to apologize for that.

PAT: Everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. You can -- I guess you can try to deny it and say that women are just as strong in every instance as men. It's just not the case.

STU: No, they're better at certain --

PAT: Yes. They're just not built the same way as we are. And that's a good thing. It was supposed to be that way. We're supposed to be different. And we are. And we are.

STU: Stunning. A stunning development that everyone knew at a level of 100 percent until very recently.

JEFFY: Right.

PAT: This is insane. And, by the way, if a man were to take testosterone in the -- in Major League Baseball or the NFL --

STU: I like how you're saying this as a crazy hypothetical.

PAT: I know.

STU: If in some circumstance somehow --

PAT: And they do.

STU: -- some at least decided to take performance enhancing drugs --

PAT: I don't remember who it was. But your testosterone as a man in the normal range is 400 to 800, maybe up to 1,000. And that's fairly normal. I can't remember who the baseball player was. It might have been A-Rod. He had a testosterone level -- and I shouldn't mention him because I don't remember who it was. But I remember their level was 4,000. So clearly they had been --

JEFFY: That's a man.

PAT: No man takes -- or has that much natural testosterone. So clearly, they had been taking testosterone, so they were better at what they were doing than they otherwise would have been. So it works on men as well as girls transitioning to men. So obviously, this girl is going to become stronger, she's going to be faster. She's going to be better able to wrestle than she was as a girl with no testosterone.

JEFFY: Right. And the argument also from the other parents that are suing the school board is that, hey, she is taking this medicine. That's making her into a boy. We don't want her wrestling.

PAT: And in Texas, you can take -- you can compete if you've been prescribed the testosterone by a doctor, and she was.

JEFFY: Correct. And there are several -- there are three or four other things on that list that the Wrestling Association says it's okay as long as it's prescribed and that would not be okay if it was not prescribed, for sure.

PAT: Wow.

STU: And the reason for that, by the way, quickly, steroids are like standard treatment for a lot of illnesses.

JEFFY: Yes.

PAT: Yes. Right.

STU: If you break out in a rash or if you have -- if you're sick in any number of ways.

PAT: Uh-huh.

STU: One of the first responses is to give you a shot of steroids because, you know, it works. It's pretty effective.

PAT: It reduces swelling, aids in healing. It just -- it calms down infection. I mean, it does a lot of different things. I've taken steroids quite a bit. Because I've been sick lately. And it helps. They help.

STU: A lot.

PAT: So it kind of makes sense that there are certain circumstances under which -- you know, because if you're taking anabolic steroids, that's one thing. But if you're taking steroids that a normal doctor would prescribe for an illness that's a different deal.

JEFFY: Which is pretty much what they were covering when they made the rules, before this.

PAT: Right. So, anyway, Stu heard this interview on the way in by Chris Cuomo. And is it the lawyer representing the other girls in the tournament?

STU: No, this is Ben Ferguson, who is a talk show host. He's a CNN contributor, so he's there to take the evil right-wing side of this argument. Chris Cuomo who purpose or it is I guess to be a journalist. I don't know that for a fact. But it seems like he wants to come off as evenhanded on the show is a straight-out activist on this show.

PAT: Yes.

STU: And the reason is because he's in the middle of his own personal issue with the transgendered argument, which is last week someone tweeted to him -- when talking about the transgendered issue, what do you tell a 12-year-old girl who doesn't want to see a man's unit in the locker room?

So a 12-year-old girl is in the locker room, someone changing next to them, takes down their pants and has a guy junk. Right? He's got guy junk.

What do you tell that 12-year-old girl? His response was, I wonder if she is the problem.

PAT: Good gosh.

STU: Or her overprotective and intolerant dad. Teach tolerance. That was his response.

PAT: That's unbelievable.

STU: Now, look, that's unbelievable, to put that on the 12-year-old girl.

PAT: Unbelievable response.

STU: A 12-year-old girl is not equipped to -- even if this were the most logical thing in the world, is not equipped to make that determination. She's going to be interested in what she's interested in at that age. That's going to be -- it's a moment -- it's an era of discovery, right. And so that is not something that you would necessarily want -- that's why they have separation.

Because honestly, with this standard, why bother with two different bathrooms? Why bother with two different locker rooms for any reason? Why bother? Why not just be tolerant of male genitalia all the time for 12-year-old girls? Why is it only when someone else outside of their decision-making process makes a decision they identify a different way. Right? Someone else has done that, that doesn't affect the 12-year-old girl in this scenario. She hasn't made any judgment, well, I identify that person as a female, therefore the junk that I'm looking at is not male. That's not her determination. It's someone else's determination. So that is -- it's an absurd argument on its face.

But he got so much heat for that tweet, blaming the 12-year-old girl and her intolerant dad of not being accepting of penises in the locker room, which is essentially what he said: You should be tolerant of the penis.

That was the word they used. He got so much heat for that. He's now in, I've locked myself in the corner, and I'm going to be defensive on this point no matter what. Which, it brings out the best in Chris Cuomo. Because he's now so desperate to prove that this wasn't a mistake, he'll say anything.

PAT: Yeah. Listen to this.

VOICE: What's your take on the tournament, my friend?

VOICE: Well, first off, I think this -- take the transgendered issue out of it for a second. If you are taking testosterone, which is a performance-enhancing drug in sports, you shouldn't be able to wrestle.

PAT: Correct. There you go.

VOICE: And this gave a completely unfair advantage to this participant. You can talk about that whether you are in your age-group or in your sex group that are associated with. If you're taking something that is performance enhancing, you're not a real champion. You cheated and you won.

Now, the state I think has some blame for this, by having it where they're even allowing these testosterones to be used if they're prescribed by a doctor. That's where I think the big fix probably needs to come.

STU: Stop for a second. Because this is -- so, first of all, this is his first response. Take the emotion and the politics out of the transgendered issue for a second. And we'll just talk about you how ridiculous it is that a girl who is taking heavy amounts of testosterone for a girl, right? Would be able to compete at all. So taking out the transgendered issue, it's still wrong. So he's already won the argument at this point, right?

JEFFY: Right. Right.

STU: But not with Chris Cuomo who can't possibly accept this.

CHRIS: If there was acceptance, we wouldn't have had this issue because this kid would be wrestling against boys.

PAT: Oh, good gosh.

STU: So here's his argument: So Chris, he falls back to --

PAT: If there were acceptance.

STU: I don't know what level we're going to fall back to on this. It's going to be hard to keep track of. But he falls back to, if there was -- if we taught acceptance, this wouldn't be an issue because she would be able to wrestle the boys like she wants to.

PAT: And in that eventuality, we wouldn't be talking about the story at all because she would have lost in the first round, and it would be over.

STU: Right. That's true.

PAT: It would be over.

STU: That's true. However -- however, we still would be talking about the issue. Why?

Because in a liberal state, let's say California, there would be a -- it would go the opposite way. You would have a boy who was transforming to be a girl and wanted to identify as a girl and then went into the girl's division and then destroyed all the girls. So the issue would still exist, it would just be in a liberal state and the opposite way. So he's completely wrong there to say the issue goes away if -- if we, quote, unquote, teach acceptance. The issue still exists, it's just on the opposite side.

VOICE: We know. And for those as you're learning about -- just so people know.

VOICE: Here's the thing.

VOICE: But hold on, Ben. Let's just clarify one thing: The science, you have to be careful about.

STU: This is argument two.

PAT: The science now.

VOICE: The amount of hormone that this kid is given is the minimum standard they can give to replicate the output of a boy.

STU: Okay. Stop. There's so much there.

JEFFY: Oh, my gosh.

PAT: Does he know the amount she's being given?

STU: First of all -- yes. So that was one of his big arguments in this. I assume he knows it because he quotes -- he kept saying, you have to look it up. You have to look it up. So, again, that's a bad assumption on my part.

PAT: Look it up, Jeffy. See how much testosterone --

STU: However, it's not the minimum amount that a girl would have, right? It's actually way more than a girl would have, which is what makes the transition happen.

PAT: Yes. Way more. It's the minimum amount for a boy.

STU: For a boy. Now, let's just say that that's true. So even if his argument is true, it's still cheating --

PAT: So even if his argument is true, it's still cheating.

STU: It still would be cheating as the girl. So his point is, well, then they should allow him -- her -- him to wrestle with the boys, right? Because he wants -- she identifies as a man. So we should think that she's a man. We should allow her to wrestle with the boys. Because she's not getting -- his point there is, he's not getting so much -- she's not getting so much more testosterone than the boy would normally have. So she's not a superhuman boy, she's just a boy, right? First of all, his wording is interesting there. The amount to replicate a boy.

If she's a boy, you do not need to replicate the boy.

If you're replicating something, you're replicating it because it's not actually happening. Therefore, your whole scientific argument is flawed. The thing that you're saying you want to happen isn't happening.

PAT: Yeah.

STU: She is not a boy. So if she was a boy, you would not need to replicate it.

PAT: Yeah, if you need to talk about science, what is she scientifically? She's a girl.

STU: She's a girl.

PAT: She's had no surgery. There's nothing been changed on her body. She's a girl. So if you want to talk science, she's a girl. And then -- so it's unfair for the girl to be getting testosterone, when the other girls aren't getting it.

STU: Right. Exactly. Now, his point seems to be, what he wants to happen is that she wrestles against the boys and then loses because she is getting only the appropriate level for a boy of testosterone.

Again, it's a ridiculous argument in and of itself. But if you're going -- even if you're going to entertain it, the point is, getting performance-enhancing drugs -- it's not to say that you let everyone come to the same level of testosterone. The point is, you don't get additional testosterone as to what you have naturally. That's the point of the rule. It's enhancing. Whether you think it's enhancing it only to equal, it's not the point. The point is, you don't enhance it to what you have naturally.

PAT: Uh-huh.

STU: She has very little naturally. And they're enhancing it to get a higher level, regardless of what level.

PAT: And all we're talking about here is -- the level of the other competitors is what we should be talking about, not the level of the boys.

STU: Yes. Right.

PAT: Because is it unfair for her to have beaten all these girls whose level of testosterone is ridiculous?

VOICE: Kids are going to be superhuman -- it's the opposite.

PAT: No, it's not the opposite.

VOICE: Scientifically, that is the outcome. If you look and do the research as I have, you'll see that.

STU: Oh, God.

PAT: What a condescending ass.

STU: Yes. Remember, this is a guy who is in full standing in the Douche Hall of Fame. And this is him showing off why he's there.

PAT: Exactly.

STU: And, by the way, on Pat and Stu today, a vote on Chris Cuomo as the Grand Nozzle after this interview. Because he deserves it from Harry Reid.

VOICE: If this state allowed this kid to wrestle against boys, which is what he wants, we wouldn't be talking about this case right now.

STU: Right. This case. You would be talking about a different case in a different state that went the opposite way. The issue would not go away at all based on that. You would just be arguing the opposite side of it.

PAT: True.

VOICE: But you also have to look at, there has to be a standard. And I think it's not insane or crazy for a state to say that you compete with the sex that's on your birth certificate. That's what I would refer to as logical. It is illogical to somehow imply that this kid is a victim because he decided to do something or change something and therefore you change the entire sport around it. That is the part that I think many people are sitting here and saying, "Hey, if you want to compete in a sport, period, then you cannot be taking performance-enhancing drugs and do it." But to say that we should change the entire way that sports is done because of one person and their decision to do something, that is unrealistic.

VOICE: Right.

But the premise is flawed. Because the logic requires --

STU: We got to come back. We're not going to have time to get it --

VOICE: I disagree. That's why we're having a discussion. That transgender doesn't count. But it does count, and that's why we're having this bigger debate about what you allow trans kids to have access to and what you don't.

PAT: He goes on to say that she identifies as a girl.

STU: Yeah, but we have to come back and play -- because that part is unbelievable as well.

PAT: Unbelievable.

STU: His scientific argument is that she identifies. Well, that's not science.

PAT: That's not science. Now you're talking feelings. You're not talking science.

STU: As you said, they're replicating it. She's identifying. You're laying it out -- subconsciously, you're saying the truth. You can't help yourself. You can't help yourself. You keep saying the truth.

PAT: I can identify as a gerbil, if I want to, but I'm not. I'm not one. And I won't fit into the little thing with the wheel that goes -- spins around and around. So...

STU: Right. And any other circumstance, this argument would be completely bizarre.

How Trump is putting the world ON NOTICE
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How Trump is putting the world ON NOTICE

Axios recently released an article titled “Trump's shadow presidency clouds Biden's final weeks”, and Glenn has a few thoughts: “The only ‘shadow presidency’ that we should be talking about is, who the hell is president right now? It’s not Biden.” Glenn explains why Trump’s actions as President-elect are “promises kept” and a return to common sense. The world is being put on notice that a new sheriff is coming to town. Glenn also reviews some of Trump’s biggest moves, like his tariff threats to Canada and Mexico.

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GLENN: There's this story in Axios today that just kills me.

Just the headline kills me: Trump's shadow presidency clouds Biden's final weeks.

Here's the only shadow presidency that we should be talking. Who the hell is president right now? It's not him. I don't care what anybody says.
It's not him!

Who is the president of the United States?

Interesting question. Nobody seems to want to talk about.


STU: I mean, it's going so poorly. It's hard to believe it's not him. You know, I've got to -- it kind of seems like central to his governing philosophy.

But I -- I -- I think you're right. It doesn't seem like he's really the president. And, by the way, you mentioned this the other day.

By the way, you mentioned this the other day, where did Kamala Harris go?

Haven't seen her, since I think the day after the election.

GLENN: No. Gone. Just gone. I have no idea. No idea.

Now, Axios says, here's why this matters. There can only be one man that occupies the White House.

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

They go on. Let me quote.

But the norm-busting assertiveness of Donald Trump and his transition team, and the rapidly fading relevance of the presidency in the US. It's something of a two-headed presidency.

No. Here's what's happened. This is not a shadow presidency. This is promises kept.

Okay? The world is being put on notice right now. There's a new sheriff in town.

I'm not there yet.

But I'm coming.

Now, we can play this two ways. You can understand that the time of insanity is over. And you can start preparing right now, to fix that.

Or when I get into office. Because I have promised the American people, I am going to fix this at lightning speed. I'm giving you the opportunity to get ahead of the curve.

Because Mexico, you don't fix the drug problem, you keep shipping people across your border.

I'm going to put a 25 percent tariff on everything you sell.

I'll cripple your markets.

Okay. Are you threatening? Yeah. I am. I am threatening you.

I mean, that's what I would say if I were the president. Why mess around?

This is what he means, what he says. Tariffs are coming.

So when he calls the new president of Mexico, and says that, it's not a shadow government.

It's somebody saying, this is what's coming.

You want to play ball? Or do you want to be outside?

And he's doing that, with almost everything. I mean, he did it with -- with Trudeau. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to send up additional helicopters and drones to protect the border.

And I'm -- I'm also going to put tariffs on you, Canada. And I personallily.

I love Canada. You should be the 51st state, okay?

You're not playing -- he's playing hardball with Trudeau.

He's telling Canada. We love you.

We love you. I don't have any problem. Just stop what's coming over the border.

Because we're not doing it anymore. What is the difference between that and when Joe Biden was the elect, and he was saying, we're not going to prosecute anybody?

What's the difference?

The difference is Donald Trump is telling heads of state, return to law and order.

Joe Biden was saying, there's no law and order here! There's no sheriff in town, soon!

On foreign policy. He -- they're criticizing. He's claimed credit for Iran's apparent decision not to retaliate against Israel for its October attack.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Who doesn't believe that?

Honestly, who doesn't believe that?

You've gone from Joe Biden, who has made them wealthy again. Give up them everything they want. Opened our coughers. Opened our doors.

Allowed them to get away with anything. And the guy who just four years ago had them on the brink of bankruptcy, had them on the brink of internal revolution. Which would have set a great people free, he's coming back.

Now, you're just one of the mullahs.

You might believe the, you know, 80 or 90, or however many virgins you're getting.

You know, you might think, hey, that's coming.

That's coming my way. Uh-huh. But there's also somebody else around you, that's a little pragmatic. That will go, yeah.

But we may just be blown up, ourselves.

You know, at some point, you ask yourself, I've got a pretty good life.

I'm not -- I mean, we're making some progress. Do I really want the United States to kill me? Do I?

That's what's happening in Iran.

They know. This is -- this is why he is such a great negotiator.

Because everyone knows. Do you know how he bought Mar-a-Lago?

Mar-a-Lago, I will get the numbers wrong. But it was like $30 million.

It had been given to the United States by Merriweather Post in like '70 something, '72.

Been given to the United States government, as the Southern White House.

Okay? And when Jimmy Carter got in. He said, it's too expensive to keep up, we're just going to give it back.

So he gives it back.

Somebody else buys it. I think it was given again to the United States as the Southern White House. They give it back again.

And so Donald Trump buys it. Now, that thing was selling for -- and I will get the numbers wrong. It was selling for $30 million. Something like that.

It was worth so much more now.

But it was $30 million, and $10 million just for the -- just for the furniture.

This was built by E.F. Hutton and his wife, Merriweather Post, who Post -- as in Post cereal. Okay?

So it's a remarkable piece of property.

Donald Trump came in and said, okay. I'm going to buy it. But I won't pay $40 million for it.

Because it will take $40 million at least to get it back in shape. I want it for at least -- I'm making the numbers up. For 10 million. With the furniture.

Or 10 million, and then 2 million for the furniture.

They said, no. How dare you. How dare you.

Okay. So what did he do? He went and bought the little sliver of beach, right across the street from the mansion. That provided the view, to the ocean.

And then he went back, and he said, I just bought this.

I will just build a tall building here, that I will live in.

It will wreck your view. I mean, how much do you think your house will be worth then?

He -- he -- they knew, he meant what he said. I think he got it for $10 million total, with the furniture and the house.

Okay?

He -- he is known, as saying what he means and means what he says.

So when he says, you know, this is going to end, yes. It ends.

So he's -- there's no shadow government here.

It's that the leaders of the world know, he will do it. Unlike every other president that we've had, including him the first time. Americans didn't know, neither did the world.

Will he actually do that? When he -- when he says, yeah. You little guy over there, in North Korea.

I might just have to blow you up. They now know, he'll do it. He'll do it.

So I really don't want to die. Also, they're saying, he's not responsible for the booming stock market right now.

You know, I don't know the stock -- I don't -- the stock market is completely unhinged from anything real.

Okay? It's way overvalued. It's -- it's ridiculous, what's going on.

Because we've been printing money and giving it to the banks. And the banks have been investing in their own companies. And driving the stock market up.

It's ridiculous. It's not real anymore. It's not actual capitalism.

However, the first sign of capitalism, that I have seen, is the bump of the stock market, after Donald Trump was elected.

Because everyone with money knew, they're going to increase our corporate taxes. They're going to increase the -- the regulations on everything we do.

They're going to start -- they're going to continue to pick winners and losers.

They knew.

They had to say, we want to save our money.

And buy as much of our company, as we can.

And hold on. And don't spend any money.

Because we have no idea, what these crazy people will do.

They know what Donald Trump will do.

Because he said it, and he's done it before.

And it may not be in their best interest. But it will be in the best interest of their bottom line. Because he's going to fix the economy for the American people.

Meaning, they will have more money to spend. And he will put the focus on American companies, not foreign companies.

So, yeah. Explain crypto without Donald Trump.

Crypto, has it broken 100,000 yet?

STU: It did yesterday. Yeah. Last night.

GLENN: 100,000.

STU: About 102,000 right now.

GLENN: So what do you think that is?

What do you think that is?

You know, another thing he's responsible for. The pardon of Hunter Biden.

Because -- and the blanket pardon, pardon of, no matter what he's done for ten years, that's happening.

They must just pardon him for the taxes and for the drugs and everything else that he was charged with.

For the first time in history. I don't even know if it's legal. First time in history.

They pardon him for anything he might have done.

From 2014 to December 1st.

Okay? Anything. You find anything -- you did anything wrong. He's pardoned for it.

Why is that? Because radical transparency is coming.

He's not going to go on a witch hunt.

He's going to start exposing the truth by declassifying, what's really been going on.

Biden goes to Angola this week.

And he says, we want to rebuild you.

We're going to give you a billion dollars. And yet, there are still piles of houses, 30 feet high.

In Appalachia.

There are Americans struggling. This isn't a shadow government. This is a complete return to common sense. And the world knows, the next president means it!

Glenn & Panel DEBATE Trump’s 10 Most Controversial Cabinet Picks | Ep 397
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Glenn & Panel DEBATE Trump’s 10 Most Controversial Cabinet Picks | Ep 397

The last five years, including the pandemic, have destroyed trust in the federal government. The election handed Trump a mandate to do something about it — to root out the corruption and waste at the heart of this distrust. Trump has not taken the safe path with his Cabinet and agency picks: Kash Patel (FBI), Tulsi Gabbard (DNI), Pete Hegseth (DOD), Pam Bondi (AG), Kristi Noem (Homeland Security), Tom Homan (border czar), RFK Jr. (HHS), Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (NIH), Linda McMahon (Education), Lori Chavez-DeRemer (Labor), and Scott Bessent (Treasury). He has mostly gone for firebrands — nominees who are already sending the establishment into a panic. Will this strategy actually work? Or is the firebrand approach doomed out of the gate? BlazeTV’s Steve Deace, Liz Wheeler, Stu Burguiere, and Jason Buttrill join Glenn along with recovering investment banker Carol Roth and FBI whistleblower Steve Friend to break down the Cabinet controversies and debate these nominees. Will the swamp establishment let them survive the nomination process?

Why Trump’s MAGA Mandate is the REVOLUTION Our Founders Hoped For
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Why Trump’s MAGA Mandate is the REVOLUTION Our Founders Hoped For

Because of things like the COVID-19 pandemic, we now know how corrupt and out of control our government has become. But the American People have given Donald Trump a mandate to tear out the cancer and correct course. This, Glenn says, is what our Founders meant when they wrote in the Declaration of Independence: “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” This is the kind of “revolution” our founders wanted us to have: not a bloody one, like communism demands, and not a destructive one like Antifa anarchists want. Instead, it’s a peaceful revolution. That is the MAGA mandate. But the Deep State won’t go down without a fight. Glenn explains the “best thing” that Trump and his Cabinet could do to win.

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GLENN: Okay. So earlier today, we had Congressman Brad Wenstrup on with us. He is the chairman of the select subcommittee of the coronavirus pandemic. He's a Republican from Ohio.

They've been doing Yeoman's work trying to get to the truth about what happened with COVID. You're going to be shocked, honestly. Hold your chin, because your chin and your mouth may fall so far open, when you hear this news. It could go to the floor.

It apparently came from a lab, in Wuhan.
This -- what I'm going to tell you right now is nonclassified. And because I had such a short time with Brad on the air, because we were up against this network clock, we must get to everything.

And he -- he asked to hold on. And talk to my producers, after we got off the air. And he said, tell gren, this is just the declassified stuff, that has come you out.

He said, the classified stuff and it's going to come out, he said, is jaw-dropping.

He said, it is so far out of control, our government and big farm.

And gosh, wouldn't it be ashame, to have somebody like Robert F. Kennedy, say I think this should be declassified. I talked to the president yesterday about RFK.

And he's like, he said to me, Glenn. There is a problem with something.

I don't know what it is. He thinks it's food and pharmaceuticals. But just with autism. The numbers are staggering. It is out of control.

And he's convinced, and so I told him, give me the science. Show me!

Prove it, and let's fix it, if that's what it is. And he's also very clear about transparency.

And I think if Robert F. Kennedy comes out and says, you know what, the coronavirus pandemic thing really needs to be declassified.

I think Donald Trump is going to declassify it, and it is going to be expose everybody. Everybody is involved in this. The intelligence community, the Justice Department.

The cover-up alone from the NIH, and Fauci's office. We know now that they were shredding and deleting information and emails.

They were intentionally, and even during the subcommittee, in the last, you know, year or so, while this was going on, the -- the Democrats were still trying to block getting any information on this.

The senior adviser for Fauci, unlawfully deleted federal COVID-19 records. Okay?

You don't do that. He then shared nonpublic information, about NIH grant processes with EcoHealth Alliance.

This is everything we said, we were -- I think the first ones to come out with a special, and a giant chalkboard to show you exactly what happened.

We were -- we were almost dropped entirely from YouTube, because of it.

And then Steve Deace. And gosh. What's his name.

I feel horrible. That wrote the book about, you know, how we're turning into Nazis.

STU: Daniel Horowitz.

GLENN: Yeah. Daniel Horowitz.

Then they came out with the book. And almost all of this stuff now is being proven.

And that's just the declassified stuff. This is -- we have a real problem. Our government is completely out of control.

And I am -- I just want to remind you, the Declaration of Independence says, hey, Dear King George, we really feel bad.

You know, we tried to talk to you about some things. And we really have to break away. But we apologize, that we're wanting to do that. But we feel we have to tell you why.

This revolution that we started, is unlike any other revolutionary document ever produced in the history of the world.

Read BLM's revolutionary documents. We're going to end this. We're going to destroy the traditional family.

We're going to do this, and this and this. Ours started with, hey, we have a respect for God and mankind, and we think we need to tell you why.

And then it doesn't go into, because you suck. It goes into, because we see things completely different.

We hold things that we don't believe to be self-evident. That all men are created equal. Yada, yada.

And then it goes into, and governments are instituted among men, to protect those rights. And paraphrasing, whenever a government begins to injure those rights, or harm those rights, it is the right and the duty of the public, to overthrow that government. And replace it with a government, more likely to protect those rights.

That's what happened, gang. We -- just went through that paragraph of the Declaration of Independence.

What this mandate was, is we are overthrowing, this out of control government, that is inflicting damage on our rights.

And we're replacing it with a bunch of outsiders, hopefully. That will be better equipped to protect our rights.

Okay?

So we did this, the right way. This is fantastic news.

Our Founders saw the solution, and we actually did it.

Now we just have to make sure. Because these guys are going to fight with it -- there is so much money involved.

I mean, you want to -- just think of all the wars that are breaking out right now.

All of the wars.

You have South Korea.

You have North Korea. China. Violating South Korea.

You have China, with their drones. I don't know if you've seen the video of their drone armies.

Oh, my. Our aircraft carriers are over.

Mark my words. The next global war. The next serious war. Aircraft carriers are going to be the horse of World War I.

It's over!

They're going to take Taiwan. Possibly if Trump comes in. There's a chance of that stopping.

Or when Trump gets in.

But what are we doing?

We're depleting everything we have.

We built, rebuilt our armed forces under Trump.

Now, we don't have enough to fight a two-front war. We just don't have enough. We don't have it.

We've given it away. Why? Because the military industrial complex, says, you know what, we can -- why don't you give your stuff away.

We'll make more for you. You know the money that is involved?

This is -- think of Jason borne. Those movies where people are killed, because of small things like, you know, a billion dollars. Or power.

That is happening in almost every industry. And every big business around the world.

Pharmaceuticals.

Health care. Intelligence. The military industrial complex.

The education complex.

Everything!

When -- when these things are exposed, people are going to be in danger on both sides.

You're going to just start seeing people, oh, accidentally falling out of a window.

I'm convinced of it. Because it is so corrupt.

But the good news is, we are on it. And the best thing that can happen, is to release all of these documents.

And this is the one thing I do like about RFK.

RFK doesn't trust the government. The -- he does not trust the intelligence agencies. He doesn't trust the government, because he's seen two murders and assassinations in his own family.

He knows what Deep State can do. And I am absolutely convinced.

I was never convinced of this before. I am absolutely convinced, Oswald killed him.

But that was an operation. I'm absolutely convinced, that was an operation.

He was going to cut all of the endless wars that they were preparing for. Donald Trump is in that same situation.

The good news is, Donald Trump is not alone.

John F. Kennedy was kind of alone. Had his brother.

But kind of alone. But remember what -- remember what Hoover did.

That's why Kash Patel is so critical. In the FBI.

Kash Patel is -- they are -- they are pooping their pants, I mean, all day long.

I don't know how many changes of underwear they have to bring to the -- to Congress and the Senate. And to the FBI building every day.

But they've got to be changing their underpants a lot. Because that guy is serious.

I talked to his wife last night. And she said, Kash wanted to come up and make sure that I said hello. And I said, you make sure you tell him, I am 100 percent behind him.

Because we talked on -- on TV. Months ago, and he talked about, I wouldn't have released the JFK papers. He said, I can't explain why, but I saw them. I think that was a right decision.

But everything else, it just -- it needs to be declassified. Everything needs to be declassified.

This is -- this is too secretive.

So there is no accountability.

That guy is going to go in. And he is going to take things like this. And people are going to go to jail.

This is the kind of revolution, that our Founders wanted.

It is a peaceful revolution.

But they're not stopping their fight.

We are -- we are in for -- and I -- I hate to keep harping on this. But this is why I am so concerned about global war.

Because this isn't just an American problem. This is happening everywhere.

This is everyone. Every country. Every western country has this going on.

Look at Canada. Look at Trudeau. What do you think is hiding in the closet of Trudeau?

What do you think is hiding in the closets of the Labor Party, and even the Conservative Party over in England, or France, or Germany? That -- that doesn't have the kind of constitutional oversight like we have.

These secrets are everywhere. And they're connected. We have our work cut out for us.

But I just -- I have to tell you, I feel this from everything -- every part of my being. It is going to be very, very tough.

But God is with us. And Donald Trump is serious.

And he is looking for -- I don't get the feeling he is married to any one person. That he's appointing.

He is married to the mission!

And the mission is, get it done, get it done completely, and get it done fast! Before they can even react to cut our heads off.

Cut the heads of this snake.

And he's serious about it.

Inside Glenn Beck’s PRIVATE conversation with Donald Trump
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Inside Glenn Beck’s PRIVATE conversation with Donald Trump

Glenn recently traveled to Mar-a-Lago to attend a PragerU event, but got a chance to talk with President-elect Donald Trump as well. Glenn discusses everything he can about the shocking conversation they had, which covered a wide range of topics: What’s happening to South Korea? What’s really going on with the Russia/Ukraine war? Do Biden and the Democrats want that war? How much of a threat is Iran? Why is Trump worried about ‘nuclear proliferation’? Glenn also explains what made this meeting very different than the others he has had with presidents and why he now believes it was a blessing that Trump lost in 2020: He’s a changed man now and he’s coming back with laser focus to change everything FAST.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So I don't know where to even begin with -- I just had the most amazing, surreal experience at Mar-a-Lago, last night. Just surreal.

I was there to help raise money for Prager University. And Dennis Prager, who, by the way, let me give you an update on him.

He was severely injured. He fell in the shower. Hit his head, and it snapped his neck back.

And he has injuries to his neck.

And he is making progress. And only Dennis would be as positive. I mean, somehow or another, he's still like, huh? I'm doing great.

And it's going to be a long process to get him back. But he had been -- he wasn't able to breathe on his own. But that is over. And he spoke for the first time, here the last couple of days. And he's fully there. His body just isn't working. But he has a long road.

But he is -- he is doing better.

And believe me, he appreciates and can feel your prayers. He obviously wasn't there last night.

But he still is in the hospital.

So we were there, raising money for Prager U. Who they're just doing amazing things.

If you want to give for education, what they're doing now, on education, and Prager U. And the impact that they're having, is incredible.

Just incredible.

Dennis Prager. You know, Rush Limbaugh, when my generation, and maybe the generation, you know, after me, when we would go, people will remember Rush Limbaugh, if they read about the history of, you know, people who made some impact.

But even Rush Limbaugh, for his important and his legendary and as game-changing as he was, will eventually be forgotten.

I don't think Dennis Prager will because of Prager University. That thing is making a huge impact. And well worth your support, and it would I think make Dennis feel a lot better, knowing that they raised a lot of money last night.

And they really need your help. They have huge plans. Just go to DennisPrager.org -- it's PragerUniversity.org. And if you have some money that you would like to invest in the future, that's a great place to invest.

So I get to Mar-a-Lago. And I have a few minutes with the president. And I ask him, what the hell is going on with South Korea, North Korea, China, Syria, Ukraine, Russia?

He is laser focused on this. And, again, he reiterated to me, the nuclear proliferation that is coming, is going to be our biggest problem.

He said, we had Iran, absolutely crippled.

He said, I hope we can get them there quickly. He said, but nukes are up for sale now.

North Korea has them. And he said, I don't have any -- you know, evidence that they've sold them. But they are up for sale. And he said proliferation of nukes are coming.

And Russia is still the biggest threat. I asked him -- I just want to be really careful. Because it wasn't. It was just a personal conversation.

But I asked him about the next 40-some takes. I said, I'm very concerned that Biden or whoever is the president of the United States right now, the military industrial complex. Barack Obama. I don't know who it is.

Wants war. And he didn't get into who was the president or anything else. He just said, this man is so incompetent. He said, he has absolutely no idea the history of even Ukraine, let alone Russia.

He said, this -- this -- this should never have happened.

And he said, it is a meat grinder.

He said, when this is all over, and the world can see what's happened, he said, North Korea -- I asked him about the North Korean fighters.

I said, you know, are they good?

He said, Glenn, it's a country of 5 million soldiers. He's like, it's a religion over there.

Their state is the religion. Their supreme leader, Kim Jong-un, is like their God. If he says, you're going to war and you are going to fight and tie, he says, 5 million. And they'll just keep coming.

And he said, it -- the way he described it to me, it almost sounds like colonial days when everyone was just in a line. You know, and, you know, okay. We want to be fair.

We will wear the red coat so you can see where to aim. We are just going to stand in a big line.

I got the impression that that's almost how North Korea.

They have so many people, that wave after wave is coming. And he said, there's no respect for life. None.

He said, it's unlike anything modern. The modern world has seen in a long time.

He said, I don't remember exactly how he said it. But basically, they don't even have tourniquets.

He said, if the guys are shot in the legs, they bleed to death. And people are just walking over them.

He said, you're wounded, you die.

There's no medics coming for you.

You just die because they got plenty of soldiers behind you. And he said, it is bloodshed like the world cannot imagine.

And I asked him, I said, I -- I think everybody wants peace.

And he said, hmm. I think so too.

And he kind of hedged his -- at least this is my impression, that he kind of -- my impression is, we're going to pay a very, very high price.

With Putin. Because we have violated every single red line, with Vladimir Putin.

Everything he said, don't do, we have done.

And I personally think -- this is my opinion. I didn't express this to the president.

But I personally think, one, they want war.

I don't know who they is.

The military-industrial complex. The Biden family to wipe out the corruption.

Ukraine is nothing, but a money-laundering system. That's all it is.

It's money being laundered. I don't know where it's going. Why isn't anyone concerned on how much money we're sending over? All these weapons.

They're being sold on the black market to our enemies.

What the hell is happening? Why is this happening?

And so my personal opinion is, either they're trying to wipe out -- remember, the Hunter Biden thing is for ten years.

For crimes that he's never even been accused of.

Statute of limitations runs out in five years, on most things.

Except for like murder, human trafficking.

Treason.

Things like that.

But he's been -- never before in American history, has this ever happened.

Never before. A blanket pardon for anything he did, from 2014.

Gee. When did he go over to Ukraine? 2014.

And so I don't know if they're just trying to buy their way out of trouble. They want a war to destroy all of any evidence, or anybody involved.

I don't know.

But somebody wants war. And it might just be the military-industrial complex, just saying, you know, we really need to upgrade our military. So let's just give them all this old stuff. And we'll make new stuff for you, America.

It could be that.

It could be the State Department. The State Department. And I won't give you his response.

But I said, you realize, you have the opportunity, because we did talk about how this endless wars are just insane.

And I said, it's the State Department. It's the -- and you can -- you can stop that nonsense.

You can just fire them all.

And get people in here, who don't think the same way Woodrow Wilson did over 100 years ago.

He's very well aware of that.

And things are going to change. I was -- everything we talked about, he was laser focused.

I mean, you know, I've met with presidents before.

I met with Ronald Reagan

I met with George H.W. Bush. I met with George W. Bush. And I met with Donald Trump.

I have more confidence in Donald Trump now, than any other president I've met with. The guy is super, super informed.

It is a blessing, honestly.

It is a miracle, that he lost in 2020. And I say that, you listen to this show. You remember what I was saying. We're all doomed. We're all going to die. Okay?

The country is over if we don't correct this in four years. We would not have had this president, the man he is today, if it wasn't for his loss in 2020.

He had four years to go, okay. What did I do wrong? How did they get me?

How did they thwart me? How do I stop it? And how do I reverse this machine, while dismantling this machine? He is laser focused on that.

And if he said it once to me, he said it a thousand times. Glenn, it's going to be breathtaking. It's coming. Change is coming.

And it is coming fast. They are not going to know how to deal with it.

I'm filled with confidence, and, again, I say this with the caveat, that, you know, the left will never say.

But I say this with the caveat that I would say on any president. As long as he's constitutional. As long as he's following the Constitution and the laws, he -- he is going to be remembered as one of the greatest presidents of all time.

Because he's at least going to give it a college try. I mean, he's -- he's going for it.

We talked about his appointments. And what he had planned. There's some things that -- well, recommend take a one-minute break.

GLENN: So when we're looking at the world stage, everything that's happening is happening because America vacated the leadership role. I hope Americans realize, without the consequences, at least so far, how close we are to seeing what happens to the world, if America leaves the world stage.

And I don't want to be the world's policeman. I don't want to be involved in foreign wars.

The president doesn't want to be involved in foreign wars. He wants to end them. He wants us to concentrate on us.

But somebody has to be there, to say, knock it off!

And he's the guy -- he's already doing that. It's conversations of some conversations he has recently. And the world is being put on notice.

I'm back, very soon. You might want to change your behavior. Because everything you have been doing, is not going to happen anymore.

And I wish I could express the things that he expressed to me. Because he would be so excited.

He would like, oh, my gosh. This is fantastic.

STU: Isn't this sort of hopeful about the whole Russia, nuclear war stuff too.

Why would Vladimir Putin with eight weeks left, start what winds up being a nuclear war, when he's got somebody who is going to be a lot more sane in office, just a few weeks away.

GLENN: So because this is my impression.

Because he's being backed into a corner by Joe Biden. Every red line. He does not want to do it. But he's getting pressure from the hard-liners, in his country.

STU: Right.

GLENN: To use just even tactical nukes. Which we don't know what that would cause.

STU: Yep.

GLENN: And what our response would be -- if he drops a tactical nuke, Joe Biden will launch. He will. He will. He will.

STU: Put that's a massive step. Tactical nuke. That will be a massive thing. Why would he do that, knowing that this whole situation changes?

GLENN: Again, things are so dynamic.

Look at what's happening.

I wish I could get the president on the phone, to just have the conversation, he explained it so well.

STU: Sure.

GLENN: Look what's happening with Turkey. With Syria. With Iran.

Ukraine, Russia, North Korea, China. And South Korea.

They're not disconnected. Okay? They're all connected.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: To each other. And he is -- he is confident that the Middle East will be solved. He's like, we'll get the Abrahamic Accords back.

They've dealt with me before, in the Middle East.

They know.

He said, everything else around the world is so on the edge. He was really pissed.

He was like, none of this -- I just would like to remind you, none of this was happening four years ago.

STU: Yep.

GLENN: He said, this is all because of incompetence, stupidity, and a complete misunderstanding of how the world works.

And he -- he, again, reiterated, nuclear war is -- I mean, every time I see him. And he must have said it three times last night. Nuclear war is real.

And it is endgame changing. And he said, at all costs, we have to avoid that.