GLENNApril 07, 2017

Could You Give Up Everything to Rely on the Kindness of Strangers? This Man Did.

Could you give up everything --- your wealth and possessions --- and rely only on the kindness of strangers? That's exactly what TV host, producer and author Leon Logothetis did. After giving up his worldly possessions, Logothetis traveled the world on a yellow motorbike dubbed "Kindness One," relying on people for food and shelter. His book about the experience, The Kindness Diaries, has been made into a 13-part series on Netflix. The global adventurer, motivational speaker and philanthropist joined Glenn in studio to share his inspiring story.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: Man, we have spent the last hour talking about the powerful people in the world. Putin, Trump, president of China, even Assad, the North Korean dictator. The most powerful person in the world perhaps doesn't even believe it. The most powerful person that I know is you. If you set your mind to it, and you believe that you can truly make a difference. If all of us do that, the world changes. I'm going to introduce you next to a guy who believes he can change the world by convincing you, you can change the world. We go there right now.

Leon Logothetis, a man running a documentary called the "Kindness Diaries" on Netflix. You can see it, and he's traveling the world on a mission of kindness. I'll let him explain it, but first, I just going to find out who you are. What's your background? Where -- you know, where are you there?

LEON: Sure. So I used to be a broker in the city of London on the outside, I had everything. And on the inside, I had nothing. Emotionally, spiritually bankrupt. And then I happened to cross a movie which is a romanticized version of Che Guevara traveling around South America.

GLENN: When you say romanticized version of Che Guevara, what is that?

LEON: It wasn't the real version. It was the nice version.

GLENN: So I just wanted to make sure you knew who Che Guevara was.

LEON: There was something about that movie that inspired me because he was giving back in a profound way, and I decided I was going to quit my job and start traveling the world relying on kindness.

STU: So Che has done something good.

LEON: Exactly. Any movie. That's why I always preface it by saying the romanticized version.

GLENN: It's amazing because you walked in the studios and said I love your artwork of Winston Churchill, and he just had a quick conversation of Winston Churchill who you adore perhaps even more than I do, and I think Winston Churchill is one of the greatest men to ever Lill.

So for you to say Che Guevara changed my life, it's, like, whoa how does that fit?

LEON: Yeah, and some people say that to me. Che wasn't the hero to me, obviously, but simply just the movie. Have you watched the movie?

GLENN: I have not just because I know who Che is.

LEON: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: Yeah.

LEON: And I quit my job, and I started to travel the world relying on kindness.

GLENN: What does that mean?

LEON: It means I had no money, I had no food, I had no place to stay. All I had was my vintage yellow motorbike called kindness one, sort of like Air Force 1 but a little bit yellower. And I would give back to unsuspecting good Samaritans like-changing gifts based on being helped by them, and they had no idea what was going on. And it was really just relying on kindness.

GLENN: So it's kind of like the New Testament make no -- don't worry about tomorrow. Don't worry about where you're going, where you're going to sleep, what you're going to eat. Just go and do good.

LEON: That was the aim.

GLENN: Okay. And what do you mean -- first of all, how were they kind to you? By giving you a place to sleep, by what?

LEON: Yeah. Primarily it was human interaction, human connection. So if I felt connected to someone, and they felt connected to me, they would maybe give me some gas, put me up in their house, maybe give me some food. And then I would go from them to the next person. For example, I met a homeless chap in Pittsburgh who, you know, had nothing, really, except one bag. Yet he offered for me to sleep on the streets with him. He offered to protect me. He offered to feed me. He offered to give me some clothes, and that was an act of kindness based on, you know, he didn't know what was going to happen, but I was fortunate enough to be able to put him up in a house and send him back to school.

But really, it was -- he taught me a really powerful lesson that true wealth is not in our wallets, but it's in our hearts. Does that mean that money's not important? Of course not. Money is very important. But the truest of wealth comes from in here.

GLENN: So how do you mean you were lucky enough to be able to send him back to school and put him up in a house?

LEON: Sure. So I've had many opportunities, you know? I worked in the city of London, I had financial security. So what I mean lucky enough, I mean I had the means to give back to him. I had the means to give him an opportunity.

PAT: So when you said you didn't have any money, you didn't really mean you had no money.

LEON: I was doing a social experiment in my everyday life of course I have money. But in that moment for those six months, I had no money, and I was relying on --

PAT: Now, did you take your, like, credit card with you just in case?

LEON: No.

PAT: Oh, you didn't?

LEON: No.

PAT: Really? You had no back up plan?

LEON: We were filming the Netflix show, so I had a crew and the crew --

GLENN: And a catering truck.

LEON: A what?

GLENN: And a catering truck.

[Laughter]

You were really homeless.

PAT: Man versus wild.

LEON: What's interesting is the crew would film, and then they would leave. And I have a book there are many moments that weren't in the film because the crew wasn't there. So, for example, with that night with Tony, there was a moment where another homeless chap was having a moment but no one filmed that because no one was there except me and Tony and this other chap.

STU: That's really interesting.

GLENN: Yeah, it is.

STU: So was there a moment when you were looking at this and you were saying, you know, you have this crew there, were the people suspicious of you?

LEON: Sure. Look, I think ultimately I would go up to people without the camera because if you just go up to someone with a camera, they're, like, you know, please get out of my face. So I would explain what I was doing and if they were willing to help or not willing to help, but they were willing to be on camera I would say, look, we have a camera crew. Are you okay to be filmed? That's really how it would go.

PAT: So with this homeless guy.

LEON: Yeah.

PAT: You bought him a house?

LEON: No. I put him up in a house. So he now lives in an apartment.

GLENN: And he's gone back to school? How's he doing?

LEON: Yeah. It's not a Hollywood ending. So, unfortunately, hopelessness isn't just a -- it's not just physical, it's also mental. So he found himself in some trouble, but he's got back on his feet, he's back in a house, and I'm working to get him back into school. But it's not a Hollywood ending. I wish it was.

GLENN: Those are very hard to find. We know -- what's his name. Gardner. Chris Gardner from the pursuit of happiness, know him quite well and those endings are few and far between.

PAT: Rare.

STU: It's interesting to look at that and say -- so you go through this process and obviously the stories are kind of about changing other people. But there's a huge change that happened in you going through this process.

LEON: Without the shadow of a doubt.

GLENN: Who was really helping who?

LEON: I think we were both helping each other, you know? That's the reality. I mean, when I did the journey, when you get such kindness, when you meet people who open their hearts up in such a beautiful way, you can't help but be changed. And I was definitely changed. I was changed by Tony.

GLENN: How?

LEON: Because he had nothing. Yet he had everything. And it was like the opposite of me because on the outside, I had everything. On the inside, I had nothing. And this chap on the inside had everything and the outside had nothing.

GLENN: What do you mean by everything?

LEON: He came from his heart. He showed kindness. He was open hearted, and I think many of us live up here. I know that I did. And he taught me how to live down here. It wasn't just like that. It wasn't just like I met Tony, and it all changed. But it was kind of the catalyst. It was another moment, like, whoa there's a chap that has nothing on the outside, and we're taught that you have to have everything on the outside. Don't get me wrong. Living on the streets is not fun. This guy was doing it for years, many people do it for their whole lives.

GLENN: You said it all when he said he would protect you.

LEON: Yes.

GLENN: To me, that's, you know -- I'm sorry I know you're British but to say chap doesn't even -- it dresses hopelessness up too much for an American. Were you afraid -- you know, because that is a part of being homeless. It's extraordinarily dangerous. Mental illness is a real problem with hopelessness. Some people are homeless for a reason. They are social misfits, and they like being social misfits. The drugs. I mean, it's a dangerous world.

LEON: That's a great question, and I was told specifically on that night not to stay in this specific park. And prior to meeting Tony. I was walking the streets and said, look, don't stay in this park past sundown. Yet when I met him, he said to me you can stay with me. Every part of my body was, like, do not stay on the streets of Pittsburgh. But there was this one little small voice that said "You have to stay with this man."

And I followed that voice, and it was correct because like I said, he did protect me. And my intuition just guided me to that moment.

GLENN: Are you a religious man at all?

LEON: I wouldn't say religious.

GLENN: Spiritual?

LEON: Faith spiritually, yes.

GLENN: Is that new for you?

LEON: It was, yes. It's not anymore. But it was. I believe you can't have experiences like that with Tony and not change, and not --

GLENN: Not feel that you're connected somehow.

LEON: Exactly.

GLENN: Yeah.

PAT: Did you spend nights without, like, a place to live, a place to stay and days without food?

LEON: Yes. Not days without food. I would always find someone to give me food. But there were times --

PAT: Every day somebody gave you food?

LEON: Yes. Yes. It's truly amazing.

PAT: Just sometimes you didn't have a shelter?

LEON: Exactly.

GLENN: There was a study that came out that said while the wealthy do give, the proportion is way out of whack. The poorer you are, the more likely you are to give big. You know, you'll give half of what you have. Did you find a difference while you were on the street? Did you -- what did you learn about giving?

LEON: Look, what I learned was that people who don't have a lot often have a sense of community that people who have a lot don't have. And when you have this sense of community, you just give. I was in India, and I end up sleeping in the slums with this richer driver and his family. And although on the outside I would never want to sleep in the slums. I would never want to sleep in the slums. There was just a peace of mind.

GLENN: When you say slums, people have no idea what Indian slums are. That's poverty.

LEON: Raw sewage in the streets.

STU: We have a problem when my car almost never recognizes what I said. I imagine going through this, those types of problems are put in a completely different perspective for you now.

GLENN: When you went back, were you a little grossed out by your former lifestyle?

LEON: I was grossed out by the way that I was living on the outside. I was grossed out by the fact that I had no -- in those days -- sense of connection. I was grossed out by the fact that I didn't have a sense of community. That I wasn't coming from my heart. That I wasn't being kind. That I was focused on one thing and that was just making money. There's nothing wrong with making money. But when you just make money and you don't come from your heart and you don't give back, that grossed me out.

GLENN: You having a hard time holding it?

LEON: What do you mean?

GLENN: You having a hard time going back into the world and holding tight to what you had when you were on the streets?

LEON: It's a great question. And sometimes, yes, but I made a commitment to myself. And I said to myself that I was going to commit to this way of life. Imperfectly because no one's perfect. But I was going to do everything in my power to come from a place of kindness, I was going to do everything in my power to see another human being because I was never seeing.

GLENN: What happened to you? Because you don't just wake up and say I want to give it all up. So what happened to you?

LEON: So what happened to me on a emotional level I was in deep pain. Many of us are in pain yet we don't face it. And the pain was so great.

GLENN: Do you mind explaining the pain?

LEON: Yeah. Sure. I was just very, very depressed and never felt seen in my home and also at school. I never felt like I was following my purpose, and it was just -- it reached a point where it broke. The dam broke and leaving my job was the only thing I could do because the pain was just too much. That's -- had the pain not been that much, I wouldn't have done it.

GLENN: No.

LEON: I would have still been there.

GLENN: It bothers me that we live in a society now that wants to take away pain and suffering. I don't mean this like we've got to help suffering people. But we don't want anybody to fail. We don't want our kids to fail. We want to swoop in. There's always a drug for something. There's always a bailout for something. Every lesson of real importance that I've ever learned came from the bottom of my soul, you know? A place I didn't want to be. That's where I found out who I was. That's when I actually grew. When I'm just kind of drifting along and everything is okay, and I'm just kind of even numb, there's no growth there. I don't connect with anyone. I don't reach outside of myself.

LEON: Interesting. You're a Winston Churchill fan.

GLENN: Yeah.

LEON: And Winston Churchill has a very famous quote, which I'm sure you know. When you find yourself walking through hell, keep walking. And pain is not pleasant.

GLENN: No.

LEON: But if you find your way through it, there's a lot of light comes your way.

GLENN: Uh-huh. What do you have to tell us about, you know, here in America and Europe too, things are getting bad. Things are -- you know it over in the UK. There's trouble coming our way. And I am convinced the biggest trouble we face is from us -- not from the governments or anybody trying to kill us but from us. We don't have a sense of community anymore. We don't trust each other. We don't trust our institutions. And, you know, Toqueville came from France and studied in the 1800s what made America great was America was good. And we've let institutions and governments do things for us, and we're losing our kindness.

When you saw the streets of all over the world, and then you saw the streets of America, is there a difference in America? Or is it the same? Are we more callous, or are we kinder, or are we like everybody else?

LEON: I think ultimately one of the greatest lessons I learned was that everyone simply wherever you are, what religion you are, it doesn't matter what color you are, simply just wants to be seen. By being seen, I mean being loved, being heard, having a sense of community. And in the western world, we come too much from our heads. We come too much from our iPhones. We come too much from being connected but not really being connected. And I would say just simplify things. I go, and I speak at schools all the time, and I tell them, look, each and every one of you can change the world. And you can simply change the world by being kind to each other. By coming from your heart. It's such a simple thing. And being connected and just dropping down from the madness.

GLENN: Leon Logothetis, he has a new book out and Netflix documentary called the "Kindness Diaries." It is a pleasure to meet you.

LEON: Thank you so much.

RADIO

Did These Republicans Just Doom Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill?

Glenn Beck has had ENOUGH of Republicans in Congress who can’t seem to find enough spending to cut. Glenn and Stu break down every Republican faction that’s opposing Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill.” Some want more spending. Others want to cut, cut, cut! But it’s time for Congress to come together and DO THE RIGHT THING!

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: So now, Stu.

Bring me up-to-date, on what is happening today. This morning. In Washington.

STU: Yes. This is your chance.

GLENN: With the big, beautiful bill.

STU: Your chance to play Mike Johnson here, Glenn. For a moment.

See if you can solve these problems. Because I will say, the criticisms are just.

But also, it's pretty hard to solve.

So the current House count is 220, to 213. That means, you can lies four Republicans. From your vote. That would bring -- you would be underwater, if you would lose four.

So that's all you can do stop there are four different the groups, that are holding up the bill, right now.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: We start with SALT. The SALT deduction people. Okay? This is theoretically the easiest one to solve. There's six of them. Six people in that group. The SALT deduction, if you don't know, is if you're in, like, one of these high-tax blue states, you have a chance to deduct the money that you're paying to the state government in in state taxes, out of your federal tax bill. Basically, it's an extra deduction for those states.

You know, of course, Republicans are like, well, wait a minute. We're just incentivizing blue states to raise taxes, because you get to create this tee deduction.

Of course, if you live in this state, you're paying federal taxes on money that you didn't even get. You had to just give to the state government.

So you don't understand why blue states might have a problem with it.

So these are generally speaking, Republicans in states like California and New York.

They want to get that deduction raised. Right now, it's at a 10,000-dollar limit for your SALT deduction.

They want to get it to 30, reported this morning, maybe up to $40,000.

So that's the fight there.

Now, the ways you can get rid of that problem is you can either try strong arm them, and have Donald Trump come in and kind of yell at them. And say, hey, what the hell are you guys doing?

And try to get them to just give up on that deduction.

I will say, they all ran on trying to get that deduction back.

So it's a difficult thing for them to do. But you can kind of just strong arm them. There's only six. So you just get a couple of them. You might be okay there. The other thing you can do is give in to their claims. Right? You can just raise that deduction. That will make the deficit a little worse.

But that is what they're offering right now, is to just raise this deduction to as high as $40,000 from where it is now, to $10,000.

Okay. That's step number one. The next group is the group that probably most people in the audience. And you, would fall into, Glenn.

Which are deficit hawks. Okay? People who are saying, wait a minute. This bill sucks. You guys didn't go far enough cutting spending.

GLENN: Chip Roy.

STU: Chip Roy is in this group, exactly. He's probably the main example of it.

But there's 31 in this group.

So think of what that means with the SALT deduction group, we just talked about. You can't give them this extra deduction, because there's already 31 people in this much larger group who are saying, wait a minute, you already didn't do enough on the deficit. You can't give more. So you have those people.

Now, how do you solve that group?

Of course, that group, you would go and you would say, okay. We will cut more.

Right? We will make sure that more of these programs will go away. We will go after these programs and cut even more.

So you will want to please that group, you might get those 31. But you probably lose the six from the SALT group. Okay?

GLENN: So far, I can compromise enough to get all of them.

STU: Okay. That's good.

GLENN: But I know we're not done with the groups.

STU: Right. Do you want to go through how you would do that between those two groups, or do you want to wait until the end?

GLENN: Yeah. Just real quick, I'll say, I'll give you a partial bid of what you want. I might give you 15,000, instead of, you know, ten.

We're going to come up a little bit, but you have to understand where the country is.

But I want you to join these guys in demanding cuts, across-the-board. Green new deal. Gone. Gone.

STU: Hmm. Okay.

GLENN: Back to 2018 spending.

That's what we should all be standing for.

Okay. All right. Introduce the next one.

STU: The next one. You just mentioned the Green New Deal.

Well, guess what, there's a group of Republicans who are trying to protect some of the Green New Deal/Inflation Reduction Act. The group size there is 14.

And the reason why, you're saying, why would Republicans be defending Joe Biden's terrible bill?

And they're not defending all of it. But they are defending parts of it.

GLENN: No. They're defending the parts that come into their districts. That's what's happening.

STU: Exactly right. Exactly right.

GLENN: And those are the ones -- those would be the ones that I, as president, would use the bully pulpit and say, America, let them know enough is enough. This is bad for America.

Might be good for them. But it's bad policy. It was a bad bill.

And we can't afford it!

STU: So that is the -- the balancing act with that group.

For example, there's a lucid. One of the car companies.

The electric car companies.

They had a big -- they were going to get a benefit out of the Inflation Reduction Act. They expanded their factory in Arizona. The Congressman for that area is like, hey, we've had a bunch of new jobs.

You know, this is a company that is trying to grow the economy in my community. And now we will change the law. That's unfair to them, and unfair to the people who got hired.

GLENN: Yeah, it was a giant -- it was a giant mistake, made by the last administration, we're not going to continue --

STU: Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh-huh.

And that's understandable. Like you don't want to continue that. Right. It's got to stop.

GLENN: Stop.

STU: Again, I'm totally with you on this stuff. I'm just trying to explain how the dynamics are. The last group are the group --

GLENN: Right. I know. I know.

STU: That made the difference, when it came to the election in 2024. The reasons why Republicans have the House majority right now are because they won a bunch of moderate districts in New York.

And California.

So there's 12 in this group. And those are the ones that say, actually we don't want what they call cuts to Medicaid.

They don't want to reduce the spending. We're in these moderate districts, and we're on the borderline. And if we do these things, we're going to lose these seats, and we're not going to be in the majority anymore. Obviously, 2022, a major concern here. You've got 12 of them there. Now, of course, these are people in direct opposition to the deficit hawks, we talked about earlier.

GLENN: I personally would go all George Washington on those guys.

RADIO

What an FBI source told me about Epstein's death

An FBI source reached out to Glenn Beck about Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino’s statement that Jeffrey Epstein DID kill himself. Glenn reveals what he can about the conversation, including whether the FBI plans to release any evidence to back up Director Patel’s statement and quell conspiracy theories.

Transcript

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GLENN: I am kind of in a really bad -- we'll do it live kind of mood today! So you never know what might happen.

STU: Uh-oh.

GLENN: Let me start with. I got off the phone with a very well-placed source, in the FBI.

Very well-placed source.

One that has access and knows.

Would you agree with that, subscription, Stu?

STU: I would, yes.

GLENN: Yeah. Okay.

And I said, well, first of all, it started with the Mediaite article, which I'll get into here in a second.

And -- and -- and I said, I just would like to know, what Dan saw that changed his mind. Because I know Dan Bongino. I know Kash Patel. I like both of those guys.

I trust both of those guys.

I do not trust the government. I don't trust the FBI.

I don't trust the DOJ. I don't trust the treasury. I don't trust the fed.

I don't trust the milkman at this point.
So I think most of America is like that. My point yesterday was to make sure that we all understand that the lack of trust in our government, is very, very dangerous. And none of us should be doing you anything, to enhance that lack of trust!

Now, how do you repair it? Well, not by ignoring it. Not by just saying, don't talk about it.

You have to address it, head-on. So I trust Kash Patel, and I trust Dan Bongino. And I have said on this program, I am going to give them a year, before I say anything.

And including Pam Bondi. I'm not going to sit here and condemn them for what I don't know, what is happening. I know they're both, or all three of them, are surrounded by sharks.

Okay? I know that the corruption is very deep, in the FBI and the DOJ.

So if I'm not seeing some arrests in the next year, a year from now, I will be coming on, and I will be saying things. And Dan Bongino and Kash Patel would be the first to say, you should be!

But the point I was making yesterday is, I gave you the seven phases of a republic or an empire. And all empires in history have fallen.

And the last two things -- only two things that remain in this -- you know, 3,000-year epic story of the rise and fall of multiple empires.

When you look at all of them, there are only two things left, before we fall. And that is a complete lack of trust. In everything.

And a collapse of the dollar.

That's like -- that's it!

After that, we're done. And so yesterday, I said, I don't believe -- I mean, I don't know what to believe.

But I don't believe that Epstein killed himself.

Now, that is my belief, as I said to you, yesterday.

We cannot operate just on belief.

We need facts. And my -- in my monologue yesterday, I was saying, what kind of facts would you need to believe?

For some people, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, coming out and saying that is enough!

I told you yesterday, Stu. Remember when we played the video of Dan Bongino saying, I've seen the evidence. He didn't kill himself.

Remember? What I said right after that?

STU: Yes.

GLENN: He's telling the truth. You have that video. Go ahead. Play the video.

VOICE: You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide for him people don't believe it.

VOICE: Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion. But as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who has been in that prison system, who has been in metropolitan detention center. Who has been in segregated housing. You know a suicide when you see one. And that's what that was.

VOICE: They tell themselves. Again, I've seen the whole file. He killed himself.

GLENN: Okay. I believe him. I believe him.

That's not good enough for America, however. Now, I've also said on this program, do you want to feel good, or do you want people to go to jail?

I want people to go to jail. That's why I said, with Pam Bondi, went on day number two, after that debacle of the release of the file.

I said, look, perhaps this is because they are still gathering evidence.

They want to put people in jail. Yada, yada. I don't know why they withheld that evidence.

But to believe that Pam Bondi. Because I asked the president on this.

To -- to believe that Pam Bondi has sold out. And then Kash Patel and Dan Bongino all sold out, means that you must then believe that Donald Trump knows it and is part of it!

That's the problem. Who is left to believe?

Now, I want to see the evidence, because the country must see the evidence.

You don't fix -- you don't fix things. And they know this!

You don't fix things by saying, you know what, trust me!

Dan Bongino, you've heard him for years. He's never said that to me. I never heard him say that on the air. Trust me!

That's not the way he is. He is very much like me: Don't trust me! I don't ask for your trust. I don't want your trust. I don't ask for your trust. Don't trust anyone in my position.

You can trust that we have the best intentions.

But don't anything I say as gospel truth. Because it's not.

It's my opinion. It's the understanding of what's about to go, to the best of my ability. You can trust my intentions.

But don't trust what I say!

Do your own homework.

The only way truth is sustainable, is if it's your truth!

Anybody who -- if you're a Christian, you know this.

You have a testimony. You can't feast on somebody else's testimony. I can't sit here or fix the country or feast on the testimony of Donald Trump. Of Kash Patel. Of Pam --

STU: And we've lost Glenn here. Pam Bondi here, he was talking about as well. As a real problem. Glenn, I think you might be back with us here. Sorry about that little drop. Yeah, you're saying, lease everybody your trust.

GLENN: Correct. Correct. And people that you should trust, tell you, don't trust me!

Do your own homework. It has to be yours.

So the thing that we are waiting for, that has to happen. Is the release of information.

And that will come.

And if it doesn't, well, then, you have a problem.

But it will come!

I talked to this source yesterday.

Now, I have read stories that disagree with this.

Just yesterday, I think NPR, a very reliable source. As reliable as Mediaite.

A very reliable source. Says that there is no tape of the hallway in front of the prison cell.

I talked to a well placed source yesterday, at the FBI, that told me. Yeah. That tape does exist.

And I saw it.

And I saw the last person to go in the cell, when he was alive.

And the first person to go back in the cell, after he was dead.

And I said, so there was no foul play?

He said, no. Wait. Wait. Wait.

I want to separate two things. One, did someone go in the cell, and kill him?

Did somebody kill him?

The answer, because of the of the video evidence, that they say they saw, and I believe this source.

They said, the -- the video evidence shows no one went into that cell. No one.

Okay. But it doesn't show the cell. It doesn't show what happened. That's the first thing.

Now, the second thing. So are you saying, there was no -- I mean, all of this was a coincidence?

No, no, no, no. I'm not saying that. I am not saying that there wasn't a desire to set him up. There might have been a desire to have somebody go in and kill him.

There -- there -- it's a long string of things that happened, that don't make any sense.

Was there a conspiracy -- conspiracy to kill him?

I don't know. But probably!

A lot of people needed him dead. But did he kill himself, or was he murdered by those people?

The answer is, he killed himself.

Now, that doesn't mean, that you don't create the conditions, that make you want to kill yourself.

And I don't mean just sending you to prison.

Yesterday, I spent all morning, and I am so frustrated because the Republican is at stake. You know that, and I know that.

I try to do my best, to not -- Stu and I talked about this yesterday.

You know, neither one of us, are the type to go in.

I mean, if something happened at a store or something.

Got it wrong. And we're just. And it's going to be a fight. Both Stu and I are like, just leave it alone. I don't care.

Because we don't like conflict in our life. And yet, this is what we do for a living.

This is not what we wanted to do. We started doing this show, because we were making fun of talk radio.

And then it got serious after 9/11.

And we found ourselves doing it. We don't like conflict.

You hate -- I'm from an alcoholic family. I was the one that tried to make everybody laugh, so we didn't -- didn't see mom. Or dad falling down the stairs, or whatever was happening.

I don't like conflict!

But I find myself in a situation, where the truth does cause conflict.

And you must discipline yourself, to search for the truth, the whole truth, and nothing, but the truth.

We cannot live in sound bites.

We must understand the depth of what is going on.

Because as I'm going to tell you here in a few minutes.

There is a new concerted effort to bring our streets into chaos.

Bring our country into chaos.

The left -- the -- I shouldn't say this.

The Democrats are completely dead.

It is run now by the uber, dangerous left.

That's who is calling the shots.

And that -- they are going to -- well, I'll use their own words.

Do everything that they've done in the past, and take it to the next rung on the ladder.

That's a quote! You want to save your republic? We cannot dismiss the people that we have grown to trust. That we have put our faith in. We need to give them time. And let them show us the evidence! I want to see some arrests on a few things. I want to see the -- the progress being made.

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U.S. Faces TOTAL Ruin Unless Patel Acts NOW!

Americans on both the Left and Right are losing trust in our institutions FAST. Without this trust, empires across history have collapsed. Glenn reviews the 7 stages of civilization, which eerily describe the rise and fall of many empires, including possibly the United States. Have we reached the final stage before total destruction? Glenn believes it’s very possible…and there’s only one or two steps left before collapse. But there is a way for us to turn around, and he believes FBI Director Kash Patel could make a big difference by releasing the TRUE evidence surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s death.

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GLENN: We've been -- we've been talking about all of the lies that have been told.

Who believes anymore that the traditional media is telling you the truth on anything?

Who believes, that, you know, the media didn't know about Joe Biden.

Who believes that Joe Biden's cancer is a new subject?

Now, that someone hard. Because that very well could be brand-new. But it also, because we don't believe in so many other things. It might have been known when he was still in the White House.

We don't know. But do you believe it?

I'm not asking you what you know, I'm asking you what you believe. Then Kash Patel comes out, along with Dan Bongino.

Two very credible people, on our side.

On Donald Trump's handpicked inside team.

And they say, the -- the Epstein suicide, was a suicide.

And my first response was, uh-uh.

And then I immediately went, but it's coming from these guys. I believe these guys.

I know these guys. So then I started getting into critical thinking.

Okay. What would it take for me to believe them?

And they just have to show us, what they saw.

Because that's a role reversal. They've switched!

They've said it wasn't a suicide.

Never now, all I need to know is, what did you see?

And show it to me!

Okay. Why is this important to use critical thinking?

We just went through four of the seven stages of -- it's called the seven-stage cycle of civilizational collapse.

Okay?

First, the age of pioneers. That's the revolutionary war. Then the age of conquest.

That's the expansion out west. The age of commerce.

That is the really -- the 20th century. Early 20th century.

The age of affluence. Beginning around the Reagan years, where the decay guns. And it becomes about leisure and stuff.

And then fifth, and this is where the last time I read this, I thought we were here, and maybe a little in the sixth. Maybe.

The age of intellect.

Elite rule and fragmentation. Experts and technocrats dominate. Reason replaces faith. Society becomes obsessed with process, bureaucracy, identity, and division. People grow disconnected from elites. Populist backlash begins.

This is France pre-1789. Weimar, Germany, in the 1920s. And the US, post-2000.

The values, relativism, narcissism, hyper-education with moral void. So technocrats dominate? Yes. Reason replaces faith? Yes. Society becomes obsessed with process? Yes. Bureaucracy? Yes.

Identity? Absolutely. And division? The people grow disconnected from elites? Yes. Populist backlash begins? 2016.

Yes. Then you get into the sixth stage. The age of decadence. Moral decline and decline of courage.

Tell me if you can't check every box on this one. National identity collapses.

Hmm. Almost there. Almost.

Immigration, without assimilation. Yes. Public debt surges? Yes. Breads and circumstances replace responsibility? Yes.

Political corruption is normalized? Yes.

Gender confusion? Yes. Family disintegration? Yes. Loss of fertility? Yes. The use of drugs? Yes.

Hedonism dominates? Yes. That's Rome the third through the fifth century. And is this us today?

The values, hedonism, nihilism, and entitlement.

I think yes, yes, and yes.

Then you get into the last phase. Would you agree, Stu, that we've hit everything else in that?

STU: Yeah. We're -- we're here. At some degree or another, we've hit all of those.

GLENN: Okay. The age of decline and collapse. Disintegration.

There is only two things. Number one, internal distrust. Factionalism, and scapegoating.

That's the first. All of that is where we are today, with those stories.

Internal distrust. I don't trust anything. Do you?

Factionalism? Hello! MAGA.

And the -- what? Anti-MAGA. You're either a racist or an antiracist.

And scapegoating.

I don't know.

Jake Tapper. How is your book going?

I think we're there! The last thing to happen, currency collapse. Loss of external power or invasion.

When Donald Trump is in power, I don't think we're going to lose the external power or invasion, unless our currency collapses. And our currency collapse could happen. Nobody -- did you see they downgraded us, yet again, Stu?

You remember 2008?

I'm saying in 2006. 2007. And we will lose our AAA+ status. They will downgrade us.

The -- the quote was, never, from every institution in America. Never.

It will never happen. Ever, ever, ever, ever. It will never, ever happen.

Well, it happened in like 2009. Then it happened again '12 and '16. And they just did it again.

So currency collapse is on the board.

Values, of this era, despair, tribalism, and the choice between authoritarianism or anarchy.

We're there! Okay.

So I don't tell you this to bum you out.

I tell you this, because there is something you can do.

That's why I started today's show with those questions. We must -- I believe this is a national emergency. And I believe Donald Trump should declare our trust in these institutions, a national emergency. We must be transparent.

This is why I said, I want Kash, and I want Dan Bongino, to show the American people what changed their minds. I would love a hearing on it!

And not some big drawn-out, you know, hearing in Congress with the budget. I just want to see. I want to see the files because internal distrust is a choice!

Because if you're saying today, I don't believe Dan Bongino and Kash Patel, which I'm stuck. Because I do believe them.

I just -- I think I don't have enough information to go with them on this.

I believe in them, but I also believe that Epstein killed himself.

Sorry, my throat is killing me.

STU: I mean, liked the fact that you crunched the ice, as you took the sip.

GLENN: I believe them. I just believe also that Epstein killed himself. That he didn't hang himself with a paper sheet.

Those two don't match. When something doesn't match.

You have to go back and say, which one do you actually think is right? I can't. Because I don't have enough information.

But I must do that.

Because trust and distrust, at this point, is a choice!

Now, let me show you where distrust leads.

If you don't trust Kash Patel, and Dan Bongino, then you can't trust the FBI and the DOJ.

And anything that they're doing there. That's pretty bad.

Because we just have the biggest reformer in, of all time.

A guy who said, he would reform those two institutions.

That he would be transparent. And he hired these two guys. And we all cheered for those two guys.

So if you don't trust them, if you just immediately go, something is wrong.

I don't trust them. Without saying, here. I don't trust, that that is true.

But I want to see what changed their mind.

Then your next step is: Well, does Donald Trump know?

And if he doesn't do something about them, on something this egregious, they're clearly covering something up.

Then I have a problem with Donald Trump. Where does this end?

This ends in -- this ends in guillotines in France.

This is what happens. You betrayed the revolution.

No! I didn't. That's just not true.

So the good news is, this is -- this is up to you.

These things can be reversed. They just haven't been. But they can be reversed. For instance, why would our currency collapse?

Because we're being downgraded. Why are we being downgraded.

Because we're spending too much. Why are we spending too much?

Because the people in Washington won't listen to the American people. They have no courage!
Back to stage six. Decline of courage.

That means, we need more people who have courage, that will say, this is the end of the republic, if we don't do certain things! So where will you stand today?

Will you dedicate yourself to not changing what you believe, per se, but at least demanding critical thinking answers for good, critical thinking questions. Pragmatism I don't believe you. Thus, I am asking you to produce and have a conversation with the American people, to show us what changed your mind.

Show us the facts.

We must restore trust!

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Could Mexican Ship Crash Expose Deadly Cyber Sabotage?

A Mexican Navy ship has crashed into the Brooklyn Bridge and Glenn wants answers: Why are so many massive ships crashing into major US bridges?! Is it really just coincidence that these ships, including the Dali that hit Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge back in 2024, keep losing power around these bridges? Glenn demands investigations into these incidents that look for the possibility of foreign foul play. Are our enemies using these instances as “shark bumps” to show off their hacking capabilities and see how the US responds?

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GLENN: Wow. All right. Well, what was on the last episode was another giant ship hitting another giant bridge.

STU: What is happening?

GLENN: Now -- now, I've never seen this in my lifetime. Okay? I mean, I'm 62. I've seen it happen now, two times, and it's been recently.

I don't know about you, but I think -- I think there's a problem. Now, what's happening?

Two ships. Two major American bridges, less than, what? A year and a half apart from each other?

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Both ships lose power. Now, we've seen this happen before. We've seen other ships lose power. I'll get into that here in a second.

Recently, Baltimore. March 2024. Francis Scott Key bridge collapses into the river because a Singaporean cargo ship, the Dolly, loses propulsion, slams into the support column. Six workers are killed. The whole country watches in shock.

And you're like, wow! That doesn't happen.

Well, then again, on Saturday, it happens again. A Mexican Navy tall ship loses power while departing New York harbor.

It drifts straight into the Brooklyn Bridge. Two sailors die.

Dozens were injured. The mast shattered like match sticks. The Brooklyn Bridge, an icon of American resolve, shakes. But apparently, everything is okay!

Now, first of all, our condolences to all of those who were on the ship, that lost their lives or were injured.

We feel for you. That was an awful -- they were all standing there on the masts. Can you imagine standing there and going, we're not stopping. We're not stopping. I've got to get down. Then when the mast goes down, you saw them. They were all tangled in the ropes.

And they were just hanging there. Some of them upside down. It's nuts!

Okay. So the reason for that one, we're told.

Again, power.

Okay. Okay. Maybe once. Maybe twice.

Both on foreign vessels.

Both involved with high-profile American infrastructure. Now, we've been talking the last hour about trust. And I'm sorry. I just don't trust that this is -- if this is what it is. Then we should stop having computer systems run everything on these ships.

Okay? This is the only reason why -- you could say, well, no. We just put in these new computers, athat are running these ships, and nobody has ever seen computers run things like ships before.

And we don't know if they're safe and stable yet.

Then don't put them in the ship!

If there's a problem with that, why don't we know there's -- I can't use my phone an airplane.

Why?

Why?

Because the FAA couldn't come up with a reason, we had a plane crash.

I think it was in Long Island years ago.

And they were like, cell phones!

And we've been being told to turn off our cell phones and everything else.

Because it interferes with the navigation systems on the plane!

It does, what?

Excuse me?

What does it do?

Nobody believes that.

Nobody believes that.

Okay?

That is not true. Just not true. How come -- if you've ever flown in a private plane, they don't tell you that.

Is there something special in private planes that makes their super, super navigational systems so much better than it is on a commercial airliner?

No!

It's a lie. It's a lie. So what's wrong with these ships?

Do you remember the ship that also lost power, and then made like a loopedy-loop and then slammed into another ship, that was I think off the coast of Singapore?

Remember that? It happened like three, four years ago. It was this insane thing, where we lost power and navigation. I mean, it was two, like, large freighters. And I think it was a freighter and a Naval ship. And it just pounded into the Naval ship.

Well, we lost power, and lost navigation.

Okay. All right. There's something happening in the pit of my history section of my stomach that says, Hmm.

This isn't -- this isn't right. Warning bell. Okay? What history would tell me is these are shark bumps. Okay? Do you know what a shark bump is?

I worked with Anderson Cooper one time. And we were sitting, getting ready to -- he was doing his show on CNN. I was doing my show on CNN Headline News.

Which is strangely has better numbers now, than any show on CNN currently. But, anyway, so I'm getting ready to do my show on CNN Headline News.

And, and walks in.

And he was always very kind. You know, to me. And we had a nice relationship.

STU: Yeah. He always was.

GLENN: Yeah. And he said, what did you do this weekend?

And I said, I took my kids, I don't know. To the park or whatever.

I said, what did you do?

And he said, I went shark diving off the coast of Australia.

I was like --

STU: You get a lot of those weird stories.

GLENN: I was like, oh, okay.

I haven't done that. I said, why would you do that know.

He said, well, we were going to make a doc on it. And something happened. And he said -- you know, I justmented to be in the cage and have the sharks. You know, to see the sharks.

And I'm like, I could live my whole life, without ever doing that. And he said, and then when they pulled the cage up. I'm coming out. And he said, it was pretty wild when you're in the cage. And he said, then I see the captain of the ship, as the cage is coming up. He's getting ready to dive. And I said, what are you doing? And he said, I'm going to go dive and just be with the sharks for a minute.

Okay. What the hell is wrong with these people? All right. Maybe all the blood is constantly -- it can't get to their feet or something, coagulated in their head, because they're upside down?

What is wrong with you people? So he says, I would like to go with you. And he said, oh, this is only for experienced divers. And, and said, I'm an experienced diver. I got all my license and everything else.

And he was like, oh, okay. So come on. You can come with me.

Now, Anderson didn't have any of those things. He's not an experienced diver. This was his first time. He puts on everything, and he goes off the back of the ship with the -- the captain.

Just before they do that, the captain says, by the way, they're going to come up to you, and they're going to bump into you. Do not move. Because if you do, they'll eat you.

And he said, I'm sorry. What?

He said, don't move. They bump into things. To see the reaction. If you're just a floating, you know, bag of something they don't want to eat, it won't move.

But if you move, they'll eat you. He said okay.

All right. Now, this is, again, the time that I take off, you know, the -- the eye mask. And I'm like, okay.

Have a good time.

I'm staying here.

He goes down.

And the sharks do just that.

And he's -- I was sitting here and listening to him. And he was like, oh, you wouldn't believe what it's like, to have one of these great whites come up and bump you in the chest.

And I'm like, no. I can't imagine that. I may not have moved. But there would have been poop in the water everywhere, okay?

So that's what I get here.

So I think what's happening is these are shark bumps. These are, I don't know.

A, a country. Multiple countries. I don't know.

Can we collapse the navigational system on ships?

Can we cover it up enough, and can we take control of ships, and just let people in the upper end know, oh, boy.

Look what they're doing.

I think this is -- that's what this looks like.

This looks like the opening act to a war. A different kind of war.

But a war. That one we're not even allowed to call a war yet!

And what chills me the most is the silence on this.

The mainstream media. They didn't blink on this.

Government assures us, nothing to see here.

Same experts that tell you, that men can have babies. Are telling you, it's just a coincidence.

I'm sorry. Can you show me exactly how this is happening so many times?

Because maybe it is!

But if that's true, maybe we should stop with that kind of navigation system, on these ships! Maybe it's not ready for prime time!

And ideas it always seem to lose power and navigation right around an American bridge!

Right around a Naval ship. A US Naval ship. Or two US bridges.

Why -- why is that happening?

Now, there's a shipping giant, I guess it's Maersk. M-A-E-R-S-K. Right? Maersk. The shipping giant had its entire global system shut down by ransomware in 2017. Did you know that?

The Navy has had ships colliding multiple times since 2016. Again, what was blamed?

Steering loss, or loss of power. Ask the port of Los Angeles, which just last year, was under daily cyber attack from foreign adversaries. You don't need a missile to hit us anymore. You need somebody with a keyboard, and some bad code!

And let me ask you this: What kind of war doesn't even need a tent, just capability?

Because when infrastructure is digitized. When our bridges, our tugboats, our radar systems. Our engine controls, all depend on centralized code. It doesn't take a villain in a cape.

It takes a firmware update.

Or a rogue packet of data from a US bee sting. Remember, before 911, the intelligence community had over 40 separate warnings, that something big was coming. They just didn't connect the dots.

Well, we have several dots here, and they all seem to -- they all seem to lead to the same thing: power or steering loss.

Somebody should solve that, if it's a software, or a -- a hardware problem. Solve that.
How come I'm not hearing about that?

You can't just keep saying, yeah. That's a steering loss. And then we just accept it.

No, this is national security. Is anybody serious about national security? Anybody.

Now, I'm not saying that this was an attack. But this is -- this is exactly what it would look like, if it was.

This looks like a shark attack. Or a shark bump. Except, this time, the shark is seeing how you're going to move.

By us not moving, it makes that foreign shark. Or whoever might be doing it, more apt to eat us.

If we move and harden things, it makes them less apt to eat us.

So when a shark bump with a real shark bump. You don't move.

In this particular scenario, where it could be a foreign adversary, give is us a shark bump. You must move!

And I haven't -- I haven't seen anything, yet.

We need cyber forensics on all of those boats.

Independent experts. Not just the insurers or foreign governments.

Independent experts.

We need an immediate national audit of our port, bridge, and maritime infrastructure vulnerabilities.

So electromagnetic or cyber interference.

And we need -- we need people to at least start investigating the possibility of hybrid sabotage.

I believe we're being tested. Are we going to do the same thing with the 40 things that happened before 9/11.

And not connect the dots.

Or are we going to go, you know, it might not be that.

But we should be all over this.

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