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Debbie D'Souza Issues Dire Warning About the Socialist Movement Crushing Venezuela

The mainstream media will tell you that what's happening in Venezuela is the direct result of nationalism and populism --- but that's a lie.

"This is the biggest rape and robbery of a country ever, and the press is making this into a nationalist movement. No. No. This is a socialist dictatorship. And you can try to repackage it any way you want, but this was a country that had hope until Hugo Chávez and his socialist regime started to take it apart," Glenn said Friday on radio.

Debbie D'Souza, wife of Dinesh D'Souza and native Venezuelan, joined Glenn to talk about what's really going on in her home country --- and how socialism has destroyed it.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

NOTE: Looking for Glenn's newly released painting? Find "Civility" here.

Glenn: What is happening in Venezuela is remarkable. And it is a Socialist utopia the way they always end. There's a humanitarian crisis going on right now in Venezuela, some of which I can't talk to you about. There are things going on right now that people are being literally smuggled out at night because they're being targeted as groups.

As I look at this and see what's going on, and now the press is starting to say "Oh, you know what this is? This is a -- this is what happens when you go to nationalism and populism."

No, that's not what this is. This is Communism. This is socialism. This is what happens. And quite honestly, this is the road that we've been headed on for a very long time. Debbie D'Souza joins us now on the program. Hi, Debbie, how are you?

DEBBIE: Hi, Glenn, first of all, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for talking about Venezuela for all of these years. I've listened to you for years, and you have been right on target with the situation of Venezuela from the very beginning, and I want to thank you for that. Because not many people talk about it. They ignore it. You know, Venezuela is only a couple thousand miles away from us.

GLENN: I know.

DEBBIE: And they have not talked about it at all and as you say, they say it's something other than what it is. And it is downright socialism, and this is what it looks like, the ugly side of socialism. I don't know if there's a pretty side to it.

GLENN: This is when -- who was it? Facture that said the problem that socialism has eventually run out of other people's money. This is that point where eventually you run out of money.

DEBBIE: Absolutely. And Venezuela, you know, I was born in Venezuela in 1966. It was a thriving country. You know, it's an oil-rich country. So we had all of the amenities that you could think of. You know, the birth rate in Venezuela obviously when I was born was high. Now, you know, babies born in Venezuela, they -- the birth rate has gone down because the death rate has gone way up for babies born. Because he, you know -- Hugo Chavez as you said destroyed the health care system trying to make everybody pay for it. Well -- when people started leaving the country, when doctors started leaving the country, there was no one to pay for it.

GLENN: And then when he had a thriving oil company, or oil industry and when he took that over and nationalized oil, that went through the ground.

DEBBIE: He nationalized everything. Telecommunications, energy, you know, the left in Venezuela is also into the whole climate change thing and so they basically started doing wattage allotments for people. So if you went over your allotted wattage, you had to pay a $200 tax increase on top of your bill, so people stopped using blow dryers, they stopped using -- I mean, it was ridiculous. Of course now, you know -- it's just awful.

GLENN: Debbie, when you see -- this is a narco-Communist State.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: This is a Communist State now that has ties to terror, ties to Iran, ties to Hezbollah.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: The current president is going to Citibank, and it's going to be one of the biggest robberies of all time or at least this century where he is now going to sell all of the Venezuelan gold reserves.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And you hear people on TV say "This is populism," which is clearly wrong and clearly trying to make a point that is anti-Donald Trump.

DEBBIE: Uh-huh.

GLENN: How does that make people in Venezuela feel?

DEBBIE: Well, those people who get it in Venezuela are huge Donald Trump fans. They asked me to tell you and the viewers, please, please, Donald Trump do something. Either, you know, embolden the opposition. You know, we're not asking for military intervention. I mean, it's actually that bad. But we want to embolden the opposition.

GLENN: Who is opposition that could fix this?

DEBBIE: Well, the opposition leader right now is Enrique. It's basically made up of different political parties that are all on the right side of the ideological chart. So basically when the equivalent of the Republican party self-destructed, this is what gave way to Chavez. This is the reason Hugo Chávez was able to come in and take over the country is the right of Venezuela just completely self-destructed.

So then they kind of started picking up the pieces and splintered off into a -- just a bunch of different political groups, and so they all got together and called themselves the opposition. So Enrique has basically run for president twice, and we believe that the last time, he actually won. But there was voter fraud and so basically, a -- it was either last week or a couple of weeks ago, they banned from running for any type of office.

I mean, can you imagine? So they're afraid of this man. And so him, and then there's a woman, she's a congresswoman who is also opposition party, and they have actually blamed the death of this young girl, I sent you a video of this girl who was killed by thugs who basically are helping run the country. These are basically a civilian army that Hugo Chávez established from based off of criminals who he pardoned. And so they're -- you know, they're murderers, they're rapists, they run a muck all over the city. Just, you know, killing people, raping women, doing whatever they want.

GLENN: This happens and this is why Haiti can't get up on its feet because they have the same kind of thing happening in Haiti.

DEBBIE: Yes, so this is huge. They're feared. And I don't know if you know this, but in 2010, there was a disarmament movement for citizens of Venezuela, so they started taking away guns of citizens. And now citizens do not have guns, but they do and the armed forces of Venezuela is also part of the regime, and they're the National Guard and of course, they have guns and then these thugs have guns but the citizens don't have anything. So I want to make it very clear that when you see, you know, fighting in the streets and these kids throwing Molotov cocktails and all of that, these aren't the same type of thugs that are, like, wreaking havoc here on the --

GLENN: Berkeley.

DEBBIE: No, Berkeley and all of that. No, this is the exact opposite. Actually, those thugs are the thugs that have the guns in Venezuela. The left. And so --

GLENN: Debbie -- we're talking to Debbie D'Souza, did a necessary D'Souza's wife who's family is in Venezuela. I remember I was coming back from South Africa, and I was supposed to go speak in Venezuela. I don't remember. It was, like, the national theater or something, and it was a group of pastors from all over Central and South America. And Hugo Chávez said, "You're not going to speak there." And put armed military around -- by the time I landed to refuel in north Africa, they said:"Don't come." The people who invited me. Because he's going to put military around the theater.

So I actually had to land in I think Jamaica, wasn't it, Pat? And we cut my message and had somebody smuggle it in on videotape to Venezuela.

Now, that was five or six years ago. I don't -- I mean, we're talking now -- I'm dealing with people now trying to help smuggle people out of Venezuela who are being targeted as groups. I mean, it's a dangerous place now.

DEBBIE: It is awful. My 82-year-old aunt and I'm only saying this, you know -- I'm just throwing this out there. But she's in Miami right now. But the rest of my family still in Venezuela, and I don't know what to do. I mean, this is so bad. You know, Ted Cruz's dad Rafael, I reached out to him in 2014 because this is when people started taking it to the streets back in -- three years ago. And he was trying to help. But of course, you know, it was the Obama administration who was in bed with these people. And so, you know, what people don't get is Hugo Chávez hated Bush. He hated Reagan. He hated any Republican. And so, you know, I just don't understand how people do not see that the left uses the same exact tactics in Venezuela. They blame the right for everything that's going wrong. They --

GLENN: This is 1950s, ''60s could you be on what's going on.

DEBBIE: Oh, absolutely. And basically Cuba owns Venezuela now.

GLENN: Yeah.

DEBBIE: Maduro is close friends with the Castro brothers. Obviously, one of them has passed away. But the other one Raúl, they're buddy, buddy, and they are -- so basically, he's helping him run Venezuela, so --

GLENN: Go ahead.

DEBBIE: Yeah, go ahead.

GLENN: Is this something that we could see a Reagan moment? That if Donald Trump was empowering, not using force, just making the speech of tear down this wall and empowering like the pope did, empowering the solidarity movement in Poland?

DEBBIE: Absolutely. The regular doctrine is what we want. Empowering the people that are being oppressed right now in Venezuela. The opposition party, helping them somehow, you know, reach the level of being able to get out of this. I just don't know -- short of a military coup, I just don't know how else to remove this man from office. And to, you know, help the Venezuelians. This crisis has reached a level of -- I've never seen it like this before. It's just horrific.

GLENN: They really are -- there's no food.

DEBBIE: No food, nothing. I mean, these people are for the most part, you know, they hoard food, and they grow their own food because they have to. They -- you know, my aunt was going from grocery store to grocery store just to find milk, just to find eggs. You know, she basically had to go vegan, and I mean, it's really, really horrific.

GLENN: Yeah, I will tell you that I've seen reports where people will line up starting at 1:00 in the afternoon and sometimes at midnight hoping that there would be a delivery for the store. And when that door opens, whether you need it or not, it's Germany stuff. Whether you need it or not, you buy whatever is on the shelf.

DEBBIE: Absolutely. And, Glenn, this is also -- you know, people are -- well, Debbie, why should we care about Venezuela? Well, I tell you why you should care. Number one, if it's destroyed, it's going to just become a hotbed for all of these terrorists that are in bed with the regime. They already have, you know -- and this is from reports from people that are in Venezuela that tell me that they see things in Farsi, you know, they -- there's airplanes coming from Iran that are landing from Tehran that are landing at the airport daily. What are they doing? Basically, they're up to no good. And so if we create this situation where there's going to be a huge vacuum in Venezuela.

GLENN: It's a base. Debbie, I've got to run. But thank you so much for this update. We're going to continue to follow it and please let us know how we can help you.

DEBBIE: Thank you.

GLENN: You bet.

DEBBIE: Just, you know, have Trump help. I mean, I don't know. We're just -- we're desperate. We are desperate. Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: Thank you. Debbie D'Souza following on the crisis in Venezuela.

Media Sympathizes With HAMAS After Israel Frees Hostages?!
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Media Sympathizes With HAMAS After Israel Frees Hostages?!

Israel has freed 4 hostages after 245 days of captivity in Gaza. But despite this, many reports in the media are sympathizing with Hamas at least as much as with the hostages! This is something Glenn and Stu have never seen before. Instead of focusing on the hostages, the reports focus on the damage Israel is doing to Gaza (according to Hamas and other Gaza groups). And some have even complained that Israel didn’t WARN Hamas before the raid! Glenn asks how media outlets can continue to take these stances, even with reports that Hamas is using some of these hostages as slaves!

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Wow. The hostages at least four of them, the hostages have been rescued from two different locations during an operation that happened Saturday, during the day.

The medical condition is -- is normal. I guess.

Hamas-run ministry of health in Gaza, said at least $274 Palestinians were killed, and more than 400 injured in the operation.

Gaza Ministry doesn't differentiate between fighters and civilians. So, yeah. Spokesperson for the military, put the figure fewer than 100.

You know, what I really liked is the fact that the -- all the reports start coming out about how bad it was for Hamas.

Dozens of injured people are lying on the ground. And medical teams are trying to save them. With the simple medical capabilities that they have.

Said the Gaza health ministry.

You know what he should have done? He shouldn't have built the headquarters for Hamas underneath your hospital.

You know, might have worked out a little better for you and your people, you know.

STU: Do you think, Glenn? Is there -- and this is not -- I've never been in this situation, so I don't know. Is there a path to avoid bombings, that include not taking hostages?

Is there something about taking the hostages that leads to this -- these --

GLENN: No. Those are totally separated.

STU: Totally separate.

GLENN: Totally. You're talking apples and eggs.

STU: Apples and eggs. Okay.

Yeah. I just wanted to make sure.

Because at some level, it almost feels like, when you take hostages and you torture them. And you keep them against their will. And do all these horrible things. That might actually be the reason why the -- the -- the Israelis would come in. I don't know if it's tied.

GLENN: No. Apples and eggs. And I say that, because oranges like apples, come from a tree. And then you can trace their roots down.

STU: Right.

GLENN: But you can't compare that to something that comes right out of the butt of a chicken. And I think that's what this is.

Is -- these guys. You know, the other thing is. You don't want civilians hurt, that don't keep your hostages at civilian homes.

STU: At all.

GLENN: You want us to believe that all the Gazans are also oppressed. And they just don't like Hamas.

Then why are you hold them in people's houses?

By the way, in one case, enslaving them. I think it was a doctor.

And gosh darn it, he was killed.

But he took -- he took one woman, and enslaved her at his house.

Made her -- forced her to take care of the house, and everything else.

Which is a better fate than honestly, what I think a lot of them would get. But I'm not giving them credit for this.

I am now giving them credit to add slavery to the list.

However, he was killed.

She -- she apparently was in the house. The IDF broke through the door. She thought it was Hamas. She freaked out. Just froze.

And they said, we're with the IDF. She didn't believe them. Then one of them came up to her and said, ma'am, we have to get you out of here.

May I throw you over my shoulder? And she started crying because she knew, that's not Hamas. And he threw her over the shoulder, and got her out. And yet, they're the bad guys somehow or another.

I don't get that.

I really liked the comment that I saw on the news, that Israel should have given Hamas some warning, that they were coming in.

Yeah.

Yeah. Me too. Me too. Me too.

STU: Those worked out well. The element of surprise. When you tell people about it. Is always a good part of it.

GLENN: Yeah. I thought it was unfair, on D-Day. Hitler slept through it.

We didn't call him up. And say, hey. This a couple of hours, we're come up, you might want to prepare. We didn't give him any notice. You know.

STU: Yeah. And it's weird. Just because we have many, many reports and such, about how -- what Hamas' directive is -- when -- if someone comes from the IDF. Or Israel should come for the hostages.

Shoot the hostages in the head.

It will be interesting why we wouldn't give them a heads up. Like, hey, we need to get these people shot before we get there. Or you're not going to be living up to your bargain with Hamas.

They're letting Hamas down!

GLENN: Right. Right. Right.

And you know what also is interesting?

Is, you know, we didn't give the heads up on D-Day. And nobody says that's wrong.

But then we did give the Japanese ten days of notice, about the bomb.

And named the cities, that we were going to drop it in.

And we still get blamed for that one.

I'm trying to understand.

It seems like, it doesn't matter what you do.

STU: Again, just like the whole thing we were talking about earlier. I don't have any internal knowledge here. But it almost seems like. Seems like, when Americans -- when Jews are involved, that side always gets blamed, no matter what the circumstances are! It can't possibly be that simple.

GLENN: Yeah. Especially the Jews. When the Jews are involved. By the way, any of us the Czech Republic. And do you remember the documentary I did on Kurt Garren, the movie actor from Germany who was Jewish.

He thought he was going to survive it. But he would been making fun of Hitler and the Nazis for like five years before they came to power. No. Not really.

And he was forced to make this propaganda film, at this concentration camp, that they had in this city, and it looked fantastic. I mean, everybody who was anybody in the Jewish -- you know, the scholars, the scientists, the -- you know, orchestral players, et cetera, et cetera.

All the people that the German people might know, they were all set to this one city in Czechoslovakia. It happened to be, I didn't know it when it went. It's right outside of Prague.

And it is terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.

It's a city. It's not like a concentration camp. It's like this beautiful, little city. But if what you know they used it for. You're like, oh, my gosh. This is creepy. And people still live there.

They moved in afterwards. And it's almost, you would like it, Stu. Because you and I are fascinated by things like Chernobyl. That have this horrible history. And then they're just vacated for a long time. People just started living back in this city. And it's really -- really weird.

But one thing I noticed. Is that we're doing a lot of the same things that they're doing back then.

Which is, you know, a little bit disturbing.

STU: Disconcerting.

GLENN: Yeah. A little bit. By the way, so we apparently provided support, for the raid.

Do you believe that?

STU: Normally, I would say --

GLENN: Yes.

STU: Yeah. That's like our main -- like that would be the thing.

Especially considering Americans were at stake. American lives are at stake, with the hostage lives as well.

You would think, it would be the main focus of our country right now. To make sure we get our hostages back.

I don't know. Now. It's so strange. I don't understand. Biden seems to be very, very back and forth on this.

Where he will sometimes say things that I think are actually pretty good. And then completely reverse himself, as soon as Ilhan Omar says something. Because I don't believe necessarily that we helped. But also, I don't know why we communicated that to the media, as well. If we didn't help. It doesn't seem to be the message that Biden wants to send.

GLENN: Here's the bigger thing.

Would Israel take our help, for something like this?

One leak, and it would have been all over. One leak.

STU: Yeah. Would you trust?

GLENN: You're going to bring the United States military and Intel into that world, and trust them to keep their mouths quiet?

No way. I don't believe it. I think Israel said that.

You know, to -- you know, kind of keep up the pretense that we're all in this together. But I would be shocked, if it was the administration that said, yeah.

Let's do this together. And let's keep it quiet. And it kept quiet.

STU: It's possible, we gave some guidance as to where they thought they were. Maybe some surveillance that supported the operation.

But you're right. I think as far as telling them, when it was going to happen. I mean, just think of every schlocky intern that works for the Biden administration.

But there's so many of these advisers that are so anti-Israel.

Even if you believe Biden is an old-school Democrat, and has some friendliness to Israel still.
Even if you buy that. You buy that he's Chuck Schumer, 1997. If you want to believe that, or Joe Biden 1997. He's changed so many times.

But like, if you believe that, maybe you would think, he would still be in favor of this.

But you can't trust any of the people around him. I mean, they're -- they're all like 28-year-old bloggers.

GLENN: Yeah. I know. And the Intel agency, which is hand in hand now, with the State Department. And none of those people want to do anything for Israel.

I just -- I would find it -- I would find it irresponsible, on Israel's part, to include anyone in the Biden administration.

Into their plans. Other than, hey. Would you help us do some surveillance -- you know, satellite surveillance.

Sure. When? Well, we just started the operation about 15 minutes ago. And here's what we would like to you surveil. You know what I mean?

Because that's the way some countries will do that with their allies. We start a war. We'll start something, and we'll call them up, just as we're launching the war, so there's nothing they can do to stop it or hurt it.

STU: Yeah, and, of course, that would be certainly a main concern of Israel.

I will say, Glenn. Have you ever seen another example. I couldn't come up with one off the top of my head.

But another example in history, where you have an operation. A wartime operation, to free hostages, that the -- the side that freed the hostages, is the one getting criticism.

I can't -- I can't think of another example.

GLENN: I know.

STU: Ever. Like you mentioned the camps.

Like, you know, we killed a lot of innocent Germans in our effort to see free the camps.

Right? Like, a lot of them.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

STU: Maybe more than we actually freed. That was never -- that's something we make movies about, to honor the memory of those efforts.

You didn't criticize the army that's going in there freeing the hostages. Immediately after this, there were like four hostages freed. But the Gazans said 200 people were killed.

Like we're supposed to compare those numbers and say, oh, well, 200 was more than four.

So the Gazans said it, so we believe it.

GLENN: And even if it is true. Even if it is true.

By the way, you were keeping those four in the homes of regular people.

You're the one putting them in danger! You're the ones that built the -- the -- the infrastructure underneath the hospital.

You did it, because you like human shields.
That's why there's -- that's why they're there. So any of that stuff is just garbage.

Alex Jones & Glenn Beck WARN: Trump is the Next Lawfare Target
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Alex Jones & Glenn Beck WARN: Trump is the Next Lawfare Target

In a surprise move, Alex Jones has agreed to liquidate his ownership of Infowars. He joins as a guest on the Glenn Beck Program for the first time to explain why: Just a few days ago, according to Alex, the chief restructuring officer overseeing Infowars after his $1.5 billion Sandy Hook case “got so desperate” that he tried to go around the court and seize Infowars. But this is just the latest stage in a massive series of lawfare attacks against him, Glenn and Alex believe, which also included an attempt to get Alex to “sell out” and let a board control Infowars. So, why are they trying to destroy him? Glenn argues that Alex was the guinea pig for the Left’s lawfare machine that it’s now turning against former president Donald Trump...and then, against the American people. So, what’s next for Infowars? Why did they try to silence him NOW? And is the Left now beta-testing a new kind of attack that’s “outside the law?”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: This weekend, I read that Alex Jones is having to divest himself of Infowars, released his share in it.

I don't know what that exactly means. He also said that the feds were going to seize it, if he didn't do something.

I read that yesterday.

We wanted to have Alex Jones on.

We have a podcast planned in September. So I want to kind of keep this narrow here, on what's going on, with him. Because I think this is -- I think this is -- he was the guy, the left tried law fare out on.

You know, the -- the early days of boycott, Sharyl Attkisson said, that trying to get somebody off a network and mainstream media. They tried to perfect that on me.

I was their -- their first real to guinea pig.

I think Alex Jones was the first guinea pig in lawfare. And it's exactly the same thing that's happening to Donald Trump now.

This is -- this is the way they're going to fight in the future.

And if anybody thinks.

You know, whatever you think of Alex Jones. What he said. He's apologized for.

And he said, he shouldn't do it. Their damages. I don't know.

But certainly, not 1.5 billion. What is Dr. Evil.

Was he in the jury box.

What the hell was that?

$1.5 billion. We talk to Alex Jones.

So, Alex. What -- what is going to happen now?

Because I read you are going to sale your assets. But if you sell. There's nothing left.

And, you know, who is going to -- honestly, Infowars without you, is nothing.

You are the asset of Infowars. So what -- what do you have -- are they forcing you to sell all of this stuff?

ALEX: Yes. And thanks for letting me give you the backstory so it makes sense.

So I told you exactly what is happening. Okay. I'm an LLC sole proprietorship. And so I own 100 percent of the shares of the company. That's why under law, the CRO cannot just shut this place down.

That's illegal. And so that's what my lawyers have told them. So I agree to pay 55 million over ten years. Which is protected. What extra revenue there would be. They said, no.

We want a board. We want to control what he says.

This is in meetings he had. But I couldn't talk about it, until outside of me, they now told my lawyers, a few weeks ago.

Right to their faces. My lawyers said, you can talk about it now. We can't believe it. They want you to start by talking about the Second Amendment.

They wanted me to he sell out.

So they told lawyers. They told Reuters, the most accurate story out there.

Some of it is wrong. It's still pretty much true.

The headline is: Sandy Hook families agree to Alex Jones' bankruptcy liquidation. Well, they had already filed for that.

And then in the article, they say, while liquidation will yield only a fraction of the money he owes the families. They have objected to his proposal, because it would have kept him in control of both Infowars and his wealth for years.

While also tapping the total amount to be paid towards the defamation claim. So they refused. And it goes on, that they wanted to have a board control this place. That they appointed, where I would work with them.

And, of course, if I would play ball. Then, of course, I can make money.

So my operation has been taken over. For whatever reason, they decided to try to shut it down eight days ago, outside of court. Which is totally insane. Because they feel like, well, this guy is a target. And we can do what we want.

And now they're so panicked to get me off the air, for whatever is coming for the rest of the country. So that's what's happening. So what's going to go down is, the judge will either give it back to me on Friday.

And it will just come to the state and shut it down, in a week or quicker. Because Austin is as bad as New York or DC. One of the worst in the country. I'm going to move out of here. Even though my family is from here.

GLENN: Austin is awful.

ALEX: It is. It is. It's all woke. Soros controls the DA on record --

GLENN: Yeah, it's awful.

ALEX: It's totally controlled.

So Infowars will --

GLENN: So hold on. Hold on just a second. I'm sorry to do this to you, Alex. I have to take another network break. Back with Alex Jones to see where he's headed they can say. What his options are.

And where the country is headed. Because of all of this.

Make no mistake. What they did to Trump, they first tried on Alex Jones.

And they will do anything to silence anyone that has impact.

For the first time, I've asked Alex Jones to come on the program.

I know Stu heard inklings of this last week, and did probably about 20 minutes of tremendous defense of -- of you, Alex. On this whole case.

Being just nothing, but -- just a show trial. That's all it is.

What they did to Donald Trump. They first tried out on you. And they're still going for it.

So I don't understand how a judge could suggest that we violate your First Amendment right, by forcing you to not talk about the Second Amendment. I don't know how that's even possible.

But is this something that they suggested, will stop demanding the billion dollars, billion and a half dollars, if you let us control what you say and don't say?

ALEX: Yes. Before I got sued, now six years ago, I was in DC for meetings. And I had meetings with some of the Bilderberg members. Some major billionaires. I'm sure you got reached out to by as well, when you were exposing Soros and trailblazing on Fox, before they targeted you. And they literally would beat around the bush. And say, well, this major billionaire, richest man at the world around the time, he wants to give you $50 million a year for a free speech foundation. And you can still do your show, if you just talk to us about, you know, cleaning up what you do. And so it was all thinly veiled payoffs.

And then when I wouldn't do it, that's when they cooked all this up. And the project veritas spin-off group. FBI. CIA agents all admitted, bragging how they engineered all this.

And then, again, even in the Sandy Hook show trial case, they got the FBI agent up, won $95 million from me. I never said his name. Didn't knew who he was, until he sued me.

And he said, the reason he was suing, was one person called him office, that was real one time. But he admitted that he basically helped organize, organize all of this. So as we said before on the break. This is all about targeting the American people.

But even in Connecticut and Texas. This is all on TV. This is all on the record.

The lawyers for the case, this all worked for high-powered Democratic law firms. The same ones suing you on Musk right now.

They went on TV at press conferences when they won. Because the judge already said they won.

But definitely on our show trial.

Never sent Alex Jones money. Don't buy his products. We don't want money. We want to shut him down.

And so they make good on this. The judge is appointed by Trump.

He's just following the law. They won't settle.

So they have this judgment.

And so he said, he was just kicking back in the state court.

Which they'll just instantly grab on operations. Or they have to settle. And they just admitted in the newspapers, they don't want money.

He's a bad person. We want him off-air. They're so arrogant. Just like what we see with AOC, and a bunch of other Democrats last month. Say, we have to keep Trump in court, so he can't campaign.

And said, it's an ankle bracelet. So they're so pained. But also a mix of hubris at the same time. They're admitting what they're doing.

That's what -- what -- is so crazy.

STU: But, Alex, they can't -- I mean, maybe they can.

They can't hold a judgment, that you have no way to ever pay. Nobody -- no individual -- you know, unless you're Bill Gates.

Is paying $1.5 billion in a judgment.

Especially this one.

And I contend. No matter what, Bill Gates could have been on pedophile island, on TV. Doing whatever he was doing.

And he still wouldn't have to pay 1.5 billion, for that.

And I'm obviously not saying he was doing anything on pedophile island.

I'm just making that as an example.

Anyway, so they can't keep -- they can't force you to not make any money at what you do for a living. Can they? For the rest of your life?

JULIO: No, you're totally right. They're showing they don't want money.

But let me just explain this quickly. One week after they won the fake show trial, where the judge already said I was guilty. She issued an order, to seize all my assets. Even stuff under the Texas Constitution on my house. That was protected. And immediately ordered me to, quote, bring all my property and my keys to Connecticut or face imprisonment. That's why I had to file bankruptcy, hoping the federal courts would be better. So the last two years, I've been battling there. Then they got so desperate eight, nine days ago. Two Fridays ago, to literally have the federally appointed COO close the and building kick me out. So that's the level of this.

And that's why I go back to this, Glenn. This is totally desperate. You're absolutely right. They beta tested getting people off networks with you. They bragged about it.

They made a test against the law fare against me for Trump. Now they're beta testing, just grabbing stuff outside of law. That's -- this is just -- it's probably said a thousand times.

They're not trying to get me. They're trying to get through me, to get to you.

And that's why -- I'm a canary in the coal mine. They take me in the big audience. I'm also flamboyant. I've been on here thirty years, and you can dredge up some stuff and make me look nuts.

Because I have said I wasn't joking around or whatever, being a jerk. That I'm a different guy.

That's taught me a lot. Before this, I was already cleaning up my act. But now, I'm like a totally different gray-haired attitude, who just tries to do a professional show.

And these people are so wild-eyed they don't care. So I appreciate you standing up for the first Amendment. I don't know where I'll be. I haven't entertained other jobs.

I've tried to save this. I feel like I have a family member that's on death's bed. People can find me @RealAlexJones on X.

And, you know, they've said they will hunt me down, and try to shut me down. No matter where I go.

But the law is very clear in Texas, and federally.

I will be able to work for somebody in the future. Glenn, with this billion and a half dollar fake judgment, I won't be able to ever own the company, which is fine with me.

But here's the larger issue. We still have appeals at the state of Texas and Connecticut. And even part of the judge's ruling, taking the law license of my lawyer, who did a good job, as a criminal lawyer. The Supreme Court of appeals, overturned, her -- her suspension of his law license.

So people are starting to wake up. Mark Twain said a lie goes halfway around the world, before the truth puts its pants on.

But once the truth puts its pants on, it tends to win, and catch up. So people are getting this danger now. And if we can just get Trump in, if we can just not let them stage a race war and all this stuff, that they're trying to cook up.

And conservatives. You just pray, and be focused and be vocal. And just move forward and stay non-violent in the face of a mostly peaceful summer. That we know is coming. We're going to take this country back if we have to.

GLENN: Yes. Yes. It's already happening in Europe.

Alex, one thing. I want you to look -- have your lawyer look into a case. Disney against digital -- not Digital Angel. It was. It became Angel Studios. What was that thing called Stu?

STU: VidAngel.

GLENN: Look for a court case against VidAngel and Disney. They said that they were going after VidAngel over copyright, but they weren't.

They were going after them. It was a personal vendetta. A lot like this. Disney was going to put these people out of business, forever.

And the court appointed a restructuring. Because Disney won.

And the guy who came in said, one of you is lying.

Either Disney is lying. And they just want to put you out of business. And they just want total control.

Or you're lying. But when I find out which one it is. I'm going back to the judge.

And the judge ruled against Disney, and changed everything. Okay?

You -- you could prove.

Just look at that case.

Because I think if you have somebody who is intent as you're restructuring. Their job is to not put you out of business.

Their job is to restructure and get their clients, or their people they're supposed to be working for, money.

If this -- if their intent is to shut you up. I bet you, the Disney versus VidAngel court case, may help you.

ALEX: That's why I love listening to your show. And that's why I love being here. Because, Glenn, I would have never thought of that. One of my lawyers did -- did basically file something a year and a half ago to the judge.

Saying, look, here's the video. Here's the links where they say they don't want money. They're here to shut him down.

And then the judge said, I'll hear that later. But I think it's time to add Disney versus VidAngel with that. We have them saying. We have like 20 minutes of them saying in the courthouse, in front of a huge --

GLENN: They can't do that.

ALEX: Saying, this is not about money. We want him off the air. Boom. There you go. That's genius. Thank you so much, Glenn.

GLENN: Yeah. Thank you, Alex. And we will sit down for a longer conversation. When I get back to Texas in September. So I appreciate it.

Thank you so much. God bless.

ALEX: Thank you so much, Glenn. God bless you.

GLENN: By the way, I would -- look, I stood for Bill Maher, when he was fired in ABC, and what I said at the time was, what part of politically incorrect ABC do you not understand?

They fired him because he said something politically incorrect. I took a lot of heat.

It was new in my career, and people didn't trust me as a conservative then.

And I started sticking up for Bill Maher.

And I took a lot of heat. But it was right, because it was about the First Amendment.

I did the same thing for Roseanne Barr. I did the same thing for, what was his name? James Gunn. The guy who was the writer/director of Guardians of the Galaxy. You cannot only stand up for the people you agree with.

You must stand up for those people you disagree with.

Otherwise, the First Amendment, second. All of the amendments, mean nothing.

I -- I don't care what you think of Alex Jones. And I say this to every conservative outlet.

You should stand by the case of Alex Jones.

To make sure this injustice. Because this is law fare. And if you think they won't do it to you.

You are sadly mistaken. And unless, each one of us, at each of our own locations, stand up, and say, this is an injustice!

This is wrong. They'll put each one of us out of business. And silence us.

And it will happen faster than you can imagine.

I challenge every podcaster. Every radio broadcaster.

To stand up and defend the right for a man to be able to speak.

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