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Epiphany: Could This Be the Winning Strategy to Bridge the Divide?

For the past year, Glenn has been trying to figure out two things:

1. How do we talk to the American people?

2. How do we talk in a different way when there is so much fear and anger is happening?

He may have found the way in a book written by social psychologist Jonathan Haidt titled, The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion.

The book covers what's called the Moral Foundations Theory. Not surprisingly, conservatives and liberals approach big issues from completely different moral perspectives or pillars.

"He said at the beginning of his book, 'I thought, before doing all of this research, that I was a deep progressive. As it turns out, I'm not, but I didn't understand the right because they never spoke my language. I didn't think they cared about people,'" Glenn explained.

Haidt actually studied Glenn to research hate-filled speech, but realized he'd been under a misconception --- and it was an eye-opening awakening.

"He realized . . . I think I've misunderstood this entire thing. Now, he's come up [with a way ] to explain what's happening to us," Glenn said.

That way could be the key to bridging the divide.

In the coming months, Glenn will take a deep dive into the moral pillars to teach how learning this second language, if you will, can engage people with opposite ideologies. In the meantime, he introduced the moral pillars on radio today.

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: There's -- there's really three or four books that I would like you to read. And we'll talk about those in the coming days. But one of them is called The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt. And he is a -- a -- a New York liberal NYU professor, who is not liberal anymore. He said at the beginning of his book: I thought, before doing all of this research, that I was a deep progressive. As it turns out, I'm not. But I didn't understand the right because they never spoke my language. I didn't think they cared about people.

Now, here's an educated man and an honest guy, who says, "As I started doing research, I realized, 'Wait. That's not who they are.'"

And the reason why he came to that is because a couple of people started speaking his language. In talking to him, you know, off air and talking about his theories, I found out that I'm one of the guys that was speaking his language. And he was shocked because I was one of the guys he was studying because I'm so hate-filled.

And what he realized is, wait. I think I've misunderstood this entire thing. Now, he's come up to explain what's happening to us.

And -- and he was looking for a way for people to be able to reach out to each other. But he doesn't think he found it. I do. And it's a fantastic read that -- that describes what's happening to the human brain. And how he describes this -- this is an older theory, but he's really kind of made this -- he's brought it to life.

What happens is, we -- our brain -- our choices -- so much of our choices are guttural. We're presented -- for instance, I don't know if you know this, this is crazy. Five thousand advertisements a day. We see 5,000 advertisements a day. Now, that doesn't even seem possible. But that's the average that the Americans see every single day. So we're weeding those things out. Because how many of them make it to us recognizing that's an ad?

We make 15,000 yes or no choices every single day. I don't think that's even possible.

But at least 15,000 on average. So much of what we do is what he calls the elephant part of the brain. And the elephant is this big, huge immovable object, that reason is sitting on top of. And reason is sitting on top of this elephant. And it's really rarely consulted by the elephant. Because the elephant is just moving.

And it's moving, based on what it has experienced. What its upbringing was. What its first reaction is. What first impressions are.

You know, you meet somebody, and your first impression is, I don't know if I really trust them. I don't know if I like them. Sometimes, if you have to, you will say, wait a minute. Let me reason this out. But most times, you just kind of let that go, and it builds one way or the other.

Well, that's the elephant. And then before you know it, you just don't trust that guy. And you're not really sure why. I just don't trust him. That's the elephant.

When it comes to critical decisions -- especially when fear is introduced -- we know that fear shuts reason down. And that's because the elephant just says, through experience, we're going that way.

And the writer -- because this -- this part of the brain -- this intuition and this X factor in the brain is so big and so lumbering, the writer -- the reason can rarely turn it.

Now, it can be turned. But it usually is turned, not by a great argument. We always say, how are we losing? We have the great argument. Well, it's not turned by the great argument. It's actually more likely to have the writer stop and wake up and tell the elephant, "Stop for a minute," from peer pressure.

It's more likely to be stopped when a bunch of people that the elephant trusts says, "You got this wrong. You got to listen. You have this wrong."

That's really the only time you have a chance that the elephant stops. The other time is when the elephant meets somebody new and likes them and has a general feeling of, this is a good guy. And that person gently challenges the elephant's belief, in a kind and friendly way. And then the elephant kind of looks up to the writer and says, "Does that make sense?" But that rarely happens.

Does this make sense so far? Do you understand?

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: So my job has been for the last year, to figure out two things: How do we talk to the American people? How do we talk to them in a different way, when so much rhetoric and so much fear and anger is happening?

Remember, I've made a pledge to myself, and I've asked to you make this pledge years ago: I will not go over the cliff with the rest of humanity.

So now, here we are. Humanity is going over a cliff. How do we stop our friends? I've said to you for many years: You're going to have to be the one that says, "Stop. Don't go that way." Well, when they're panicked, when they're fearful and the elephant is in charge, how do you wake the writer up?

Well, first, you have to be a trusted friend. You have to be kind. The best book you can read right now -- this is according to Jonathan Haidt. One of the best ways to do it is start with How to Win Friends and Influence People. Norman Vincent Peale, because the whole thing was actually care about the other person. Listen to them. Listen to them.

I would have behaved much differently in the last 18 months had I not been so arrogant. And I would have listened to you more. But I didn't.

And what I was talking about was principles. And those principles are great. And we all agreed on those principles. And I thought I was talking to the writer. What I didn't -- what I didn't realize is that you are struggling so hard with insurance. You're struggling so hard -- I know the chaos -- what you're feeling. But, honestly, I thought it was at more at our level, that we're looking at the news and can't figure it out. And that -- I just didn't -- I didn't see you. I was too egotistical. I saw me.

And that ended in disaster. That's not good. Many of us aren't friends now. Many of the people who are with me for a long time, they're not friends anymore.

Well, that's not -- how did that happen? My fault. Okay. I got that.

So now, how do we repair that, and how do we now reach out to people who have never liked any of us?

I'm going to explain this quickly. It's called the moral foundations theory. And what he has done -- and I urge you to watch it on TheBlaze TV. If you have a subscription, just watch it right now. This is actually in my office. And this is something I'm actually taking the staff through every day. And we just started. But let me show you how it works.

There are five -- there are five moral foundations that our society generally runs on. And it's loyalty and betrayal. Sanctity and disgust. Authority and subversion. Care and harm. Liberty and oppression. So the flipside of five moral pillars.

What Jonathan Haidt found in his research is that conservatives have loyalty and betrayal, sanctity and disgust, authority and subversion. We have those strongly. Liberals have care and harm and liberty and oppression. And they really have care and oppression. They don't focus on liberty as much as they focus on oppression.

Libertarians happen to have all five. And you'll see, Libertarians always seem to get a bunch of liberals to join them. Why?

Because they're the only ones speaking from a place of -- of authenticity on care and harm, liberty and oppression.

Conservatives do have all five, but they -- but they -- they don't exercise all five very often. And on top of that, liberals only have two. And they never go up to the top three.

So let me just show you how this works. When it comes to health care, they argue health care, you don't care -- you want to harm the -- you want to kill people. You don't care about anybody. You don't care about children.

When it comes to school vouchers, you don't care about children. You don't care about them having education. You know, you want to cut welfare. You don't care about people. They're all there, care and harm.

When it comes to things like moms at home. What do we argue? We argue moms -- because that's a sacred job -- we're arguing sanctity. We look at motherhood as a sacred job, a sacred responsibility with your child. And that children -- that's a sacred duty to us as parents. That's not what they're arguing. They're arguing oppression.

You are oppressing the woman by making her stay at home. And they mean that as much as we mean it's sacred.

But they don't relate to sacred responsibilities. And I'm speaking generally. And we don't relate to oppression, speaking generally. We don't relate to that.

So we're using different languages. It's like going to Mexico and speaking French.

So what we have to do is we have to move -- for instance, under sanctity and disgust, have you ever noticed how disgusting the left can get in things? Like there's nothing too vile. Occupy Wall Street, there's a protest, we can't relate to them because they're crapping on cars and smearing feces on things. There's no -- there's no -- there's no disgust that is too low for them. Because they don't have the sanctity bar.

We talk about sex, marriage, and God. We're up at sanctity. But they bring the sex, marriage, and God down to oppression. That's why we're not able to understand each other.

We literally are speaking two different languages.

And somebody has to master the second language. And I am asking you to help us and let us help you master a second language.

And begin to speak a different language. Because if there's enough of us doing it, we can stop humanity from going over the cliff. And we're never going to win with just a great argument. Because we're not speaking the same language.

Glenn Beck reads Cardi B & Megan Thee Stallion's 'Bongos' and regrets EVERYTHING
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Glenn Beck reads Cardi B & Megan Thee Stallion's 'Bongos' and regrets EVERYTHING

What's more cringeworthy: Listening to Sen. John Kennedy read the explicit "children's" books that the Left wants to put in school libraries or listening to Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion's just-as-explicit new single, "Bongos"? Glenn decided to put these two head-to-head and gives Cardi B's new song a dramatic reading remix that nobody asked for.

Transcript

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STU: Cardi B. She built her career on incredible lyrics and songwriting.

GLENN: No. I'm not going to.

STU: Along with Megan Thee Stallion.

GLENN: No. I'm not going to be roped into this. No.

STU: No, I believe you said I could pull the Cardi B ripcord at any point during this programming.

GLENN: Okay. Would you rather here -- stop, no, I'm not. You're cheapening this art.

Would you rather hear Senator Kennedy reading from a pornographic children's book?

STU: No. I've seen this video. Only in video form. Where they describe what happened. And I don't want to hear it.

GLENN: I think we should play a little bit of it. And go in with an open.

VOICE: Let's take two books. That have been much discussed. The first one is called All Boys Aren't Blue.

And I will quote from them.

STU: I don't know that we need to hear his --

VOICE: I put some lube on. And got him on his knees.

STU: I've had --

GLENN: You've had enough?

Then why do you want the Cardi B thing?

STU: That's a great question.

I really don't have an answer to that.

I really don't.

I don't know why.

Partially because I just that, I can't listen to Senator Kennedy doing that. Look, I respect what he's doing here.

It's important that he's doing this.

However, it makes me cringe for him.

And I will then -- when you're doing the Cardi B thing. I will cringe for you. I want bad things to happen.

GLENN: Ladies and gentlemen.

Cardi B. Megan Thee Stallion.

The lyrics from Bongos.

Bong, bong, bong, bong, we good? Bong, bong, bong, like a drum. Bong, bong, bong, bong, this is fire. Bong, bong, bong, bong, bong, bong. N-word. Eat this A like a plum. Plum. This P-word, tight like a nun. Nun. Better chew it up like it's Yum gum.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: You don't think that this is --

STU: Do you still have that Senator Kennedy video? Pull it up?

GLENN: We were talking about this earlier. Stop the music.

Because I -- we were talking about lyrics. There is nothing in any song today, that doesn't revolve things that go inside of you.

STU: That's really the only option of song writing.

GLENN: It is. Love songs. Nothing.

Nothing. And how does anyone listen to this and think this is good?

STU: Well, we don't even know what happened in the song. How would we question that?

GLENN: Well, that ain't your N-word?

He is both ours.

STU: Why are you saying N-word so much still?

GLENN: P-word? Tight like a nun.

Counting hundreds up with my thumb. Thumb.

I don't care where you're from. From.

Better beat this S like a drum.

Oh, girl.

Don't be talking S like you know me.

Woo. I ride D like a pony.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: Girl that N-word look like a brokey.

Real hot girl S.

Go and F with his homey. He's a -- a -- that's all I have.

Ladies and gentlemen, the lyrical stylings of Cardi B.

STU: Oh.

GLENN: And Megan Thee Stallion.

STU: Go, Megan.

GLENN: Megan. Megan. Megan Thee -- she is. Wow.

STU: That's -- that's...

GLENN: I don't think our culture has gone downhill. Not at all. Not at all.

STU: It's well written. You may not like the music, but you can tell -- that is a lyrical masterpiece.

GLENN: At this point, I am rooting for AI to take over.

Rebecca writes in about --

STU: AI legitimately would not allow you to come up with those lyrics. Because they would say, there's all sorts of racial slurs.

At the very least, they would stop you at that.

GLENN: Oh, now you've challenged me.

STU: You think you can get --

GLENN: I think I could get --

STU: No way.

GLENN: I just I'm -- hmm.

STU: No way.

GLENN: Okay.

STU: You cannot get AI to -- up to produce.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Something like that. With those words in it.

Those are naughty words.

GLENN: I believe I've been challenged.

Congress must STOP THE SPENDING before it's too late
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Congress must STOP THE SPENDING before it's too late

JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon warned at the Barclays Global Financial Services Conference that the U.S. is "spending money like drunken sailors around the world and that an economic "soft landing" is probably not coming. Glenn reviews the real state of the economy and insists that Congress must stop the spending before it's too late. He also argues that every presidential candidate needs to be asked what they would do to curb inflation. Is any candidate willing to dramatically downsize the government? Glenn and Stu discuss.

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GLENN: Jamie Dimon.

He has -- he has been warning about the risks to the economy.

He just was speaking at the Barclays global financial services contract. Conference in New York.

All of the best people are there. It's -- it's unbelievable. We went to New York. And there's these places called delis. And they have all kinds of sandwiches.that regular people eat. Oh, I felt like I was a regular person. Anyway, at the global financial services conference, Jamie Dimon said, you know, I've been saying that there's some headwinds coming. Kind of like a tornado is coming. Including, geopolitical tensions. Government spending. Monetary policy tightening by the central banks. And our government has been spending money like drunken sailors around the world. And that -- drunken sailors. You need to -- you know, I -- I -- I just want to say. This government, people claiming that they spend like I spend.

I don't spend like that. That's an insult.

To say the consumer is strong today means you will have a booming environment in the days ahead, a huge mistake.

He said, all this talk of a soft landing, is probably not coming.

You think?

And, you know, so there you have it, from an expert. In you let a boob tell you.

We're in a good part.

Okay. All right.

If we are -- speaking of Corn Pop. If we were popcorn, not the same as one bad dude, corn pop. Same letters. Just -- just -- okay?

If we were popcorn, the economy was popcorn.

It is still in the cupboard, waiting for you to go get it, and put it in the microwave.

That's how far along the line we are in this tough financial system we're in. Maybe it's been taken out. And you're like, I have to open up this plastic bag. It may be there.

STU: Yeah. And they're telling you, hey. Don't you want to eat some popcorn?

And you say yes. Because you like popcorn. Then they give you the colonels, and expect you to chew them.

You know, without them ever popping. This is a -- you're ruining your teeth with this particular.

GLENN: He said, everything that is being done right now, we will not see the full effects of for 12 to 18 months from now. So all of the spending that's going on, and, by the way, next hour. I am going to go into what we're doing in Ukraine. It is, to me, it is the clearest case of corruption. Of why the impeachment matters. What was that really all about? The lies of, we've got to fight Russia now. Otherwise, we will fight them later.

I'm reading this book on the -- on Kennedy.

And his problems with the generals, and all the neocons.

And one of the main generals, that was in charge of, I think it was a strategic air command. SAC.

You know, he's revered in the military. He actually wrote and said, in the 1960s, like 1961, it's inevitable, that we will have a nuclear war with Russia.

We should do it now.

And he actually -- they found out later, he was actually doing things, without the president's knowledge or anybody else, to provoke the Soviet Union, so they would start to gear up. And we would have the excuse of a first strike.

But his words were, it's inevitable, we will have to fight a war with them. We should fight it now, otherwise we'll be fighting a worse one later.

The same thing!

And as I'm reading that, I'm thinking, this is insanity. Whoops. We're doing the same thing right now.

STU: Similar thing happened in Spies Like Us, with Dan Aykroyd and Tim Chase. Almost the same. Same risk. And I think we need to take it seriously.

We've been warned for decades. And no one is taking this seriously.

GLENN: DeSantis said, yesterday.

If this is what -- he was asked on the CBS Evening News.

Which apparently is still on.

He said, he was asked, what would you do for inflation?

He said, I love this. Stop spending so much money!

Yeah. That's his first -- stop spending so much money.

And then open up domestic energy production. Those two things alone. But I honestly.

STU: Just those two.

GLENN: Not enough. But a lot.

Every candidate needs to be asked this. I have not heard Donald Trump give a real answer to the question of, tell me about inflation. What causes it?

And how would you stop it? What would you do it turn the economy around?

And, you know. We know.

Well, we will do what we did before. No, no, no. You can't now.

Because we have $8 trillion, is what you added to the debt.

We're there in spades now, just in -- you know, by the end of this one, it will probably be 10 trillion.

STU: He didn't discuss this with Megyn Kelly yesterday?

GLENN: I didn't see the Megyn Kelly interview either.

STU: I know Megyn does a great job with this stuff.

She's very good at doing this. I'm very interested to watch it. But I wonder if it was addressed at all there.

GLENN: I wonder. Because I want a real answer from him that. Want a I real answer.

The next president is coming in, if we don't -- you know, hopefully, we have least corn pop.

But the -- if there is a change, and there will be one way or another. Because he ain't making it longer.

What is the plan for inflation?

Because this is not good. And the only plan, that should be considered right now, is one, stop the spending.

Stop it. You -- you are being robbed.

They're now saying, their target is 3 percent inflation.

Why would we put up with that. The fed targeted 3 percent inflation.

I lived with that my whole life. Why? Why should there be inflation.

Why are you inflating the money 2 percent every year?

If you do three percent, in 10 years, I've lost almost 40 cents of every dollar. No. No.

Well, wages are -- are rising. At the same pace of inflation?

I don't think so. That's why everybody is short. And this is going -- you're going to learn about hyperinflation, the worst possible way. One of these days soon. Vivek -- Vivek said, I don't know why I say Vivek. Like cake. I know.

Vivek has said that he is going to cut 75 percent of the federal workforce. Fifty percent of those cuts will be made in his first year.

STU: I mean, he knows what to say.

GLENN: You had me at hello.

STU: Yeah. It's very Coolidge-esque.

GLENN: But Coolidge did it.

STU: I know. He cut 50 percent of the federal budget. What was it? One year?

GLENN: One year. Then the next year, he did another 50 percent. I mean, that's crazy.

STU: Again, very similar to what Vivek is talking about. Would he actually be able to do that?

GLENN: I don't know.

STU: That's the thing with Vivek's campaign. A lot of people are saying, he's promising too much. He's throwing this stuff out here. But he is being bold.

GLENN: This is what has to be done. We're at the time where we all knew this was coming. JFK talked about it.

FDR talked about it when he first passed Social Security, and said, these things must be paid for along the way. Otherwise, it will get out of control, and we'll never be able to pay it. It could be the ruin of our country. JFK said that. Ronald Reagan said it. We're there now. All of these entitlements, because we didn't actually have the money, we put it on to a debt sheet. And just our interest is going to kill us. It's going to kill us.

You've got to make massive cuts, right now.

And, by the way, you want to stop the Deep State? Cut 75 percent out.

Now, here's the one thing that I have said for a long time. And I will leave it at this. My free gift for Vivek and anybody who wants to use it. I really care about the real estate market. I really care. We will make some moves, that put the free market back in place.

And so your real estate. I -- I am going to make sure, that everything I can, to make sure it's a free market. So everybody can afford it.

Except in the Washington, DC, area. Your real estate is going to plummet, the day I'm elected. You might want to consider selling it now. Because there's going to be plenty of housing available, in the Washington, DC, area. Because I am going to fire 75 percent. Everybody else, don't worry about it. You live in the area. Around the Capitol, prepare for a -- a hemorrhaging on the price of your home.

How is it 'EXTREME' to STOP reckless government spending of YOUR money?!
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How is it 'EXTREME' to STOP reckless government spending of YOUR money?!

Real median household income just had its worst decline since 2010 — and the true numbers are much worse than the government is suggesting. But instead of curbing spending to fix inflation, the Biden administration wants Congress to continue spending at its current levels to avoid a government shutdown. And some in the media are branding the House Freedom Caucus and other conservative groups as "extremists" and "terrorists" for demanding LESS spending. Glenn defines "extremist" and "terrorist" and explains why continuing this reckless government spending (which added $2 TRILLION to our national debt) will only hurt American families MORE.

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GLENN: Stu, define the word extreme. What does it say?

STU: Extreme. Reaching a high or the highest degree, furthest from the center or a given point.

There you go.

GLENN: All right. Give me extremist.

STU: Extremist.

A person who holds extreme or fanatical, political, or religious views. Especially one who resorts to or advocates an extreme reaction.

GLENN: Okay. Hang on. Extreme, political, or religious views.

STU: Uh-huh. Especially one who resorts to or advocates extreme action.

GLENN: They have any examples of that?

I would like to know what an extreme action is. Is that terrorist?

Look up the word 'terrorist.'

STU: Terrorist: a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians in the pursuit of political aims.

GLENN: Unlawful violence.

Or --

STU: Or? And intimidation, is the way they phrase it. especially against civilians.

In the pursuit of political aims.

GLENN: Okay.

Here's why I want to bring these up.

And I just -- I want you to remember, if you believe this, I do. Words matter.

If you can change people's words and their language, you can change everything.

That's why they have replaced so much of our language, and we all are just saying. First, let me give you the lay of the land.

What you're facing.

The last time America saw a drop in household income. As large as we did in this last year, Barack Obama was president.

The change, according to the Census Bureau, the change in real median household income, it fell 2.3 percent.

That's the worst decline since 2010.

That means, what you actually are bringing home.

You know, they say, oh, jobs. We're creating all new great union jobs.

And pay is going up. But what you're actually taking home, is down by 2.3.

And that's before taxes.

If you calculate the taxes. And the subsidies, hand it out.

So not only what they take, but what they give.

Household income fell 8.8 percent.

8.8.

Real median earnings, of all workers, which includes part-time and full-time workers. Declined 2.2.

Median workers of those who worked full-time fell 1.3.

Now, they're wondering why Biden's numbers are so low.

Like, it's -- like it's, I don't know.

Like, it's a Cheshire cat, whose stripes are only appearing in a tree once in a while.

It's really easy.

People are getting poorer. Because inflation is eating away at your income.

Family household income fell even more than the median. Dropping 2.9 percent.

Older Americans saw an income decline of 2.1, worse than the 1.4 decline for people under 65. So families and the elder have suffered the most.
Native born incomes. You're born here in the United States. You fell 2.5 percent.

But if you weren't born here in the United States, you edged up .2 percent.

Region that was hit hardest. What a surprise. The Midwest.

Incomes fell by a stunning 4.7 percent.

In the northeast, median households fell 3.8.

In the West 3.2. And in the south, income trickled down to buy -- I'm sorry. By .1 percent.

Why is that?

Why is that?

Why is the South doing so well?

Weather? Maybe taxes.

Governments kind of doing what's right for the people. Maybe.

Not so crazy. All the time.

Okay.

Now I want to talk you to about extremists.

I want to talk you to about extreme extremists.

And terrorists.

The House Freedom Caucus and conservative groups held a press conference Tuesday, appointing opposing any deal to continue government spending, at its current levels, hurries before the House reconvened after a week long reassess. To tackle the task of keeping the government open. Past September 30th.

The White House, eager to stave off a shutdown.

Has proposed a clean extension of the current spending levels.

So you know, the spending levels, that we're spending right now, this year, we were supposed to be a trillion dollars over what we had.

So we were going to add a trillion dollars to the debt.

But somehow or another, we spent an additional trillion dollars.

So we are $2 trillion, adding to the debt. That's the current spending.

Do you find that reasonable?

Let me take you back. Why is your income going down?

Why are these things happening?

Why is it that you're looking at the grocery store. And you're saying. You're looking at the price of eggs. And milk.

And you're saying, what the -- now, gas, you can kind of understand. Because that goes up and down.

But all of the stuff in the grocery store.

How come the paper towels and the toilet paper are smaller? I mean, they're even cutting them now so they're not as wide.

So it's not as big. But it's also not as wide. How come that's going down. And yet, the price is going up.

How come I'm getting less for my dollars packaging. I'm not giving the same product I had.

And I'm paying more money.

Because your that are isn't worth as much.

That's why. When people talk about. You're going to understand hyperinflation.

At some point, you're going to understand hyperinflation. And we don't want to learn that lesson.

That's what Venezuela went through. And nobody wants to talk about this.

Nobody wants to think about it. Oh, I know there's somebody in their car right now. Going, I don't want to think about that.

You must think about this.

You must!

Because if you don't, it's guaranteed to happen.

What causes that?

Out of control spending.

So the White House doesn't want a shutdown. But they'll just continue, with a clean -- a clean bill. Exact same spending levels.

Well, with the addition of $40,000 in Ukrainian aid. Some disaster relief. Some border funding.

You know, but other than that, it will be clean.

Okay.

So you're $2 trillion in debt more this year.

And we're another 2 trillion next year.

Hmm.

All in four years.

I'm sorry. All in two years.

The more money they spend, the higher the inflation. The less your dollar is worth.

Now, in story after story, the Republicans who are standing up and saying, no more. We cannot continue this.

We're not going to have a gun held to our head.

We have time right now, to work out a budget.

But that's not what's happening.

The budget is being made behind closed doors.

And then what do those leaders, McConnell, Schumer, McCarthy. Jeffries. What do those leaders do?

Those leaders, who think they know better than everyone else, that you elected, you sent them to Congress.

They get the blame.

But are they to blame on this?

Because they don't have a choice.

Now, they're called terrorists. They're called extremists.

And an extremist, is the furthest from the center.

How many people do you know, that are actually fighting for in budget, to actually -- you know, pencil put to paper. And work this out?

How many people do you know, that are saying, pass it in the middle of the night, and no one read it?

Do you know anybody. Left or right. Do you know anyone?

Because I don't.

Do you know anybody who says, we can continue -- besides the current administration.

We can spend like it's -- it's raining money.

Just keep spending the bomb trillion dollars a year. It should be $3 trillion a year.

Do you know anyone that thinks our current level of spending is good?

I don't. Do you?

If you do feel that way, I want to hear how you got there. I really do.

I'm not going to make you feel stupid or anything else.

I just want to know, how you got to that thinking.

And it would be refreshing to hear. Because I don't meet those people.

I don't know who those people are. I think those people are the ones furthest from the center.

And then, what do they do?

Well, they try to intimidate people.

They are currently telling our congresspeople, you elected to do this job.

Those four people are telling the 431 exactly what they have to do. You have to pass this right now.

This is coming, in two weeks.

You have to pass this right now. We've already worked it out. No amendments. No reading it.

Just pass it right now.

Or you're going to get the blame for the government shutting down.

Now, you're on the road, you're going some place important.

You love your car. You got to get to the place.

But your car starts to overheat.

And your car blows a tire. Two tires.

Now, you could keep going. But you could blow the engine.

And you'll destroy the rims. So you won't have a lot left, when you get there.

Nobody wants to stop the car. Nobody wants to wait for the tow truck.

Nobody -- everybody wants to go to wherever it was, you were going.

Everybody. But who is the unreasonable one?

The one that says, I don't see any -- I don't see any problem. Keep going. Keep going.

Or the rest of the family, who is like, no. We're not going to have anything left, Dad.

I mean -- I mean, as much as I would like a new car, can we afford a new car?

No. Then maybe we should stop. Even the kids know. Stop.

Stop the car. This is dangerous. And it's going to put us in a very bad situation. And if we do it, we may never be able to make another trip.

Who is the extremist here?

I don't want to shut down the government. But, quite honestly, if you want to save America, it is better for them to do absolutely nothing. Than put us another $2 trillion, in debt!

Remember, if I pay you, what was it? A dollar a second. That's $31 million, by the end of the year.

And it only takes you to get to a trillion dollars. If I pay you for every second of every day, of every year, it only takes you 32 billion years. No, million years. 32 million years.

32 million years.

Okay. Don't -- I'm thinking, that maybe we shouldn't spend that money. Because I don't know how we'll ever earn that money.

And I would like something left for my children.

Did RINO Texas politicians ACTUALLY impeach an elected Attorney General with ZERO evidence?
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Did RINO Texas politicians ACTUALLY impeach an elected Attorney General with ZERO evidence?

Something is very wrong in Texas, Glenn says, and if it's happening there, what could happen in YOUR state? The Texas state legislature is holding an impeachment trial for Attorney General Ken Paxton. But is this a legitimate trial or a RINO Republican hit-job? Texas Scorecard Managing Editor Brandon Waltens has been keeping an eye on the trial and he joins Glenn to explain how shockingly LITTLE evidence - if any - Paxton's accusers have brought.

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: I'm going to talk you to a little bit about what's happening in Texas. But I'm talking you to about this, because if it's happening in Texas, God only knows what's happening in your state.

I wanted to bring somebody on, who really watches this for a living. His name is Brandon Waltons. He does the Texas scorecard. And every day, he does, you know, headlines. Of what's about to go. And he watches us every weekday at 5:00. YouTube X, and podcast platforms. There is an impeachment going on of probably the strongest attorney general in the nation.

The one here in Texas Ken Paxton.

He's been on this show several times. I know Ken.

But I don't have a horse in this race. If he's guilty of a crime, he should be punished.

But it is really beginning to look, and I stayed off this story, until the testimony was out.

And I have to tell you, something is very wrong in Texas.

And Texans better pay attention to this. Brandon, welcome.

BRANDON: Thank you so much for having me, Glenn.

GLENN: So overall, can you quickly just say, you know, what this is supposedly about? And then let's talk about the actual witnesses?

BRANDON: Yeah. So how did we get here?

Essentially, three years ago, we had this group of employees at the office of attorney general, who accused Ken Paxton of wrongdoing, of abusing his office to help a friend, essentially. And they went to the FBI. They recorded him.

And that sort of set into motion, what we now have three years later. This impeachment process, which many of those impeachment charges are based off of.

Back in May, over Memorial Day weekend. Well, a lot of people were maybe grilling out or at the lake, whatever.

The House met on a Saturday.

They voted to impeach Ken Paxton. Based on testimony that wasn't sworn testimony. Ken Paxton wasn't made aware of their investigation, until it came out. Forty-eight hours before the vote.

And the House members themselves weren't able to actually look at their testimonies. They had to rely on the word of the House investigators.

GLENN: And, Ken, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't allowed to respond in his own defense.

BRANDON: Right. Right. And so you had a lot of these sorts of things, that people will look at this, like, this is odd.

Well, just like DC, you know, the House does the impeachment, goes over to the Senate to determine whether or not they would convict, which would actually remove him from office. So for the last few months, there has been a lot of talk, from those pushing the impeachment. Who are saying, wait until you see this testimony.

Wait until you see the evidence. You will be blown away by what we have.

And yet, this trial happened last week.

And so far. And we're more than halfway through this.

The testimony has really, really been weak.

GLENN: I would say, a little beyond weak.

There's no evidence of a crime. I mean, this is -- let me just read something. This was the third whistle-blower.

The concern began, when Paxton advocated for the AG's office to open investigation, into Nate Paul.

That see his friend and donor. Alleged mistreatment by the FBI. And Texas DPS. During a raid.

Paul's contention was that the Fed did him dirty by illegally altering his search warrants, after the fact to expand their scope, just to get him.

His technical experts theorized that there was altered meta data in the digital versions, that proved the documents had been changed.

Maxwell quickly developed the opinion, that the whistle-blower, the opinion that Nate Paul was a criminal, that we should not be associated with. Accordingly, he had dragged his feet.

And ultimately refused to open a formal investigation, into the alleged FBI and TBS misconduct. Paxton, convinced of the idea, that the FBI was untrustworthy. Well, that's farfetched.

He eventually hired outside counsel, to help explore and adjudicate Paul's claims, an act that would eventually become a primary catalyst for the whistle-blower complaints.

Now, did anything come of that outside investigation?

BRANDON: No. And the thing is, when you see these people testify, I mean, numerous of these former employees of the office of the attorney general has talked about how insane, literally that's what one of these people said. It would be insane to investigate the FBI.

Essentially, they trust them whole-heartedly. That there would been nothing. I mean, literally, one of them was asked, is there anything that maybe happened over the last two, three, four years, that might change your trust in the FBI?

They said no. Of course, that's in odds with Texas voters. I mean, Republican primary voters.

We have a poll after the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Shows that 73 percent of Texas primary voters have a negative opinion of the FBI.

GLENN: What a shock.

So I'm reading this. And my first thought was. And I dismissed it out of hand.

And I don't even know why it came at me.

But I'm reading all of the testimony. And I'm thinking to myself, this is George Bush. This is -- this is the George Bush wing of the party, that is -- that trusts the FBI. Is denying that there's a problem in America.

The problem is the Republican voters. All of that crap.

And then I continue to read on. And it looks like the whistle-blowers do have a relationship with George P. Bush. Is there anything to this, that this is a Bush ambush?

BRANDON: You know, there's been a couple moments during the testimony of the past week, where the Bush family has been invoked. And it looks like perhaps they were somehow involved in this.

One of those things, that when the whistle-blowers went to the FBI and reported Paxton.

And, by the way, without even asking him or talking to him beforehand, and then they also said they had no evidence when they went.

But when they were preparing to go to the FBI, on that same day, George P. Bush was reactivating his law license.

He would eventually challenge Ken Paxton and the Republican primary last year.

GLENN: Lose.

BRANDON: Lost in the runoff.

And then you also have the case, where Johnnie Sutton, who was a Bush lawyer. Somebody who was a US attorney under Bush, and very close to the Bush family.

He's been representing some of these whistle-blowers for the last three years, and hasn't sent them a bill. Hasn't been paid, essentially they're representing them pro bono.

So that's just another piece of the puzzle, people are looking at and saying, hmm, it looks like someone else. Some outside force is involved here.

GLENN: I -- honestly, the people who brought this impeachment the way they brought it. Should be impeached themselves.

I don't -- you know, the one thing I do hear about Paxton, is he's just a freight train.

And he's not good at playing the game. And making friends and influencing people, whatever. Well, neither is John Adams. And I'm not comparing him to John Adams.

I'm just saying, temperament-wise, John Adams is not a popular guy. But you do not bend the rules to get rid of somebody, if he is -- if he is a criminal. If he did something criminal, then I am for his impeachment.

But if this is just because he has made the right friends.

Or a Bush wants him out.

Or whatever it is. The people involved in this, because it's been so shady, the way they did this.

I think they should be impeached.

BRANDON: Certainly, there's been a lot of anger. Especially among Republican voters.

You know, it's one thing where we see what's happening with the president. Where we see Democrats going after. Using the justice system.

It's another one, here in Texas. And you have Democrats. And establishment Republicans, going along with it.

GLENN: It's really bad. Really, really bad.

Anything to the thought that this happened the week that Paxton said, you know, hey.

Why -- why is our speaker of the House giving, you know, chairmanship to the Democrats?

We don't need friends like this.

And then it was later that week, that the impeachment thing happened.

Was there any connection?

BRANDON: Well, I think absolutely, there has been a divide.

Dave, the establishment guy, that runs the House, who puts Democrats in power.

He has been at odds, with not only Ken Paxton, but the conservative grassroots, who have repeatedly elected Paxton.

So certainly, there's no coincidence there.
There's certainly been a lot of bad blood between the establishment and Ken Paxton.

It just shows why they worked so hard, to try to essentially overturn the election and get him out of office.

GLENN: And quickly, what do your sources tell you, how will this fare? How will this turn out?

BRANDON: Yeah. So they need two-thirds, to permanently remove him from office.

That vote is supposed to take place, maybe Friday and Saturday, and later this week. You know, it's a little tough. You have to do aftermath. The senators are under gag orders.

I would say, especially after people testifying that they essentially had no evidence, which is what we repeatedly saw this week.

I hear a lot of the senators are getting very, very frustrated that House members put them in this situation that they have to sit through this.

And I think that ultimately, that will be something that they will be considering there, when they make those decisions.

GLENN: But you will get all the Democrats. So how many Republicans do you need?

BRANDON: I think you need ten. Ten, if I recall.

GLENN: Ten weasels.

All right. I hope not.

Thank you so much for reporting on this.

And bringing us the story. I appreciate it.

BRANDON: Absolutely.

GLENN: You bet. Brandon Waltons. He's Texas scorecard. You can find Texas scorecard. Wherever you get to your podcast. And YouTube and X every day at 5 o'clock.

STU: And just one quick thing. In case you missed the show yesterday.

It sort of rolls off the tongue. To say, oh. This was brought without any evidence.

Those remember the words of the people, who brought the accusations.

GLENN: Yeah. We have no evidence.

STU: They were asked specifically, do you have any evidence, when you were brought this case? And the guy said no.

GLENN: The most credible said, no. It's just my feeling.

STU: Right. We thought we had some legal activities we brought to their attention.

Did you have any evidence? No.