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Bill O’Reilly: G-20 Is Just a ‘Schmooze Fest’ and Putin Will Cave to Trump or Be ‘Subject to Tweets’

Russia has managed to put itself in the middle of just about everything these days. Whether it's in Syria or Iran, meddling in our election and now in North Korea --- Putin is a force that can't be ignored. While the left went wild about the first handshake between the two, Glenn and Bill O'Reilly talked about what exactly the G-20 is and what to look for.

"One last topic on the G20 meeting... with Putin and with everything that's happening in the United Nations, with North Korea. Where are we headed towards here, Bill?" Glenn asked on radio Friday.

"So the G20 cache nobody knows what that means. It's supposed to be fostering everybody's economy and doing deals to help everybody else, but it's really a schmooze fest. The real interesting part is the Putin, Trump meeting. And Putin's got to give Trump something today, and I have predicted on BillOreilly.com that he will come out, Putin will, and he will say you know what? We're going to scorn North Korea too," O'Reilly said.

"We don't like that. But he's got to give Trump something. Because if he doesn't, he's going to make an enemy out of Trump, and then he will be subject to tweets. I mean, you know, if you're Putin, and your economy is terrible in Russia, which it is, you don't want to be Trump's enemy, you know?"

Enjoy the complimentary clip or read the transcript for details.

GLENN: Wow. There is so much to talk about. So much has happened this week, and the good thing is we have the guy who is going to give it to us with no spin. Bill O'Reilly's look at the week's news begins right now.

Mr. Bill O'Reilly, who now is making his home at BillOreilly.com where you can listen to his daily podcast, which is always riveting because he's always exciting and up tempo and upbeat and positive. Bill, how are you?

BILL: Are you reading that, Beck, or is that from the heart?

GLENN: Well, it's not from the heart. It's more from the --

BILL: Knee.

GLENN: Lower regions.

BILL: Jeez.

GLENN: The heart of my bottom.

BILL: Oh, man, Beck, come on.

GLENN: So how are you, Bill?

BILL: So what's on your mind today?

GLENN: Well, I have a lot of things. I would like to hear your comments on's speech in Poland yesterday, which I thought I was so refreshing to hear.

BILL: Well, I agree that the message was worthy and needed to be said to the Europeans on their own soil. But I thought it was a standard -- I said this to my audience. I thought it was a standard political speech in the sense that if I were writing that speech, I would have singled out a few examples of where Europe is in trouble. For example, in Sweden, that country has accepted way too many refugees and migrants. They can't assimilate them. They are causing all kinds of trouble, a big rock music festival had to be canceled because they're afraid that it would get out of control in Sweden. These kinds of things would have made the speech more vivid. But I agree with you that the message needed to be said.

GLENN: Honestly, it was nice to hear somebody stand up for the western way of life. You say it's standard, but I haven't heard that for eight years.

BILL: Yeah, and the secular progressives hate it, that's what all of these demonstrators are about. They hate capitalism competition, free markets, freedom in general. These peoples, you know, loathe that, and they all gather together to cause trouble. It's not an antiTrump movement, it's an anticapitalist movement.

GLENN: I got a note from mine Mike Opelka who does a show on The Blaze radio, and he said in the early '90s, we debuted a play in the former Soviet Union, he and his brother wrote this play and said my brother came home from Russia with a woman he eventually married. My brother took her to a grocery store to show her where the local market was located. Within seconds, she was standing stunned began crying. She could not believe what was in front of her. The products, the variety, just the vast array of food that was available to everyday citizens.

We were talking last hour about Poland and how there were just a few years ago 4,000 items on grocery store shelves. There are now as many as 40,000 different items on grocery store shelves and how the west and the free-market system probably the best testament or monument to it is the grocery store. And people don't get it.

BILL: You know, when I was in Berlin when the wall came down, I was covering that story, and I was there, and when the people poured across into West Berlin, the first place they went to was the grocery store, and they poured into the grocery stores and what they wanted most of all -- take a guess. What food did the communist prisoners want most of all?

PAT: Hamburger Helper.

STU: Kale.

GLENN: I would say candy.

BILL: Bananas. They swarmed.

PAT: That's really uninteresting.

[Laughter]

GLENN: I mean, let's just be honest here, Bill. Hang on. If you're a prisoner behind the iron curtain, the highest thing you're dreaming of is a banana.

BILL: I just want it to put this into perspective. Tatiana going to the grocery store is more interesting than news reporting in Berlin?

PAT: Yes. Yes.

BILL: Is that what you're me?

GLENN: I think so. I think it's more because of the way the story was told.

BILL: Oh, I see.

STU: Maybe you need to read an e-mail from a friend, maybe it will be interesting to everybody.

BILL: My friend Kurt ate a banana.

[Laughter]

GLENN: All right. That was a great story, Bill, and I am so glad.

BILL: Yeah, thanks, Beck, I really appreciate it.

GLENN: I will take that banana story with me to the grave. It's one of the greatest moments of airtime.

All right. So let's shift gears a bit. We haven't heard your take yet on the CNN, you know, Donald Trump tweet clown show thing.

BILL: I think it is a fact now that CNN, MSNBC, the network news broadcasts along with the progressive newspapers have basically stopped covering the news in a fairway and have put together a program to try to destroy Donald Trump. Would everybody agree with that?

GLENN: Yeah, but don't they -- when will they understand that doing that is only going to strengthen Donald Trump? They're not going to -- they're not going to release something, like -- because every time they come out with something, it's always, like, well, this is -- here's a constitutional crisis for you. And everybody -- America's, like, okay. No, it's not. We get it. It's coming with the package. We got it. He tweets crazy things. Oh, what an idea.

BILL: Well, it's all about money, though.

So the two liberal cable networks have increased their audience by doing we hate Trump all the time, and there's an audience for that that comes in just to see that. So if they stop doing that, their audience goes down. So, for example, Greta Van on MSNBC did not do that and therefore her ratings were not very good, and she got replaced. So it's about money -- ideology, of course. But it's also about money. So the New York Times understands that its readership is 90 percent liberal, and we're going to give that readership what they want, rather than giving the folks the truth. And that's where it's really shifted, so it's a combination of ideology and money. And therefore -- and you're right. Trump's base, basically, don't even listen to it anymore, and they dig in to support their guy against this assault.

GLENN: One last topic on the G20 meeting from Putin or with Putin and with everything that's happening in the United Nations, with North Korea. Where are we headed towards here, Bill?

BILL: I think that the catering will be heavy on bananas at the --

GLENN: Well, he is in Germany, so I've heard they love their bananas there.

BILL: A lot of fresh fruit. All of this stuff, basically, is schmoozing. So the G20 cache nobody knows what that means. It's supposed to be fostering everybody's economy and doing deals to help everybody else, but it's really a schmooze fest. The real interesting part is the Putin, Trump meeting. And Putin's got to give Trump something today, and I have predicted on BillOreilly.com that he will come out, Putin will, and he will say you know what? We're going to scorn North Korea too. We don't like that. But he's got to give Trump something. Because if he doesn't, he's going to make an enemy out of Trump, and then he will be subject to tweets. I mean, you know, if you're Putin, and your economy is terrible in Russia, which it is, you don't want to be Trump's enemy, you know? So I expect Putin to give him at least verbally something today. But the conference itself is just a schmooze fest and, you know, they all have agendas, and they try to get a little here and there kind of deals and stuff like that, so that's what it's all about.

GLENN: Back with BillOreilly.com. Do you have to say it this way? Or can you say it BillOreilly.com like all human beings?

BILL: It doesn't matter, really. It's how you feel it, Beck. And right now, I don't think you're feeling it at all.

GLENN: You know, I am thinking of bananas right now. As I think of bananas, BillOreilly.com. Okay. I get it. BillOreilly.com where you can see his gear and his books and everything else and also get his take on the news every single day, and he's launching his own TV show at BillOreilly.com, and we'll continue our conversation with him here in just a second.

PAT: Glenn Beck Program. Pat, Stu, Bill O'Reilly's with us. Glenn just had a family issue he has to resolve for a few minutes, so he should be back any minute now.

BILL: Okay. Sure. So, Bill, what are your thoughts on the GOP seemingly caving in now and just almost admitting that they're going to bring the Democrats in on this, and we're going to go from a Democrat light bill, which is was with the Republicans anyway, to a full on Democrat-inspired bill, they're just going to fix ObamaCare?

BILL: Well, I think that's a message to the Republicans who are being obstinate about compromising and being the senate majority leader and saying okay. Look, if you're not going to compromise with us to get free market back into the health care system, then you're going to have to deal with Chuck Schumer and the guys to socialize it up, and we're going to have something worse, so that's the play.

You know, look, it's a very complicated thing, obviously. A lot of people are confused about it, and I think the big thing is that the Republicans have got to get something on the board. And if they don't, they risk losing the senate in 2018. Because they -- the people are waiting for some kind of accomplishment. We need a tax cut, we need new health care.

PAT: We've got nothing.

BILL: The jobs report today. We had a very good jobs report. Trump should be running around screaming about that. I think Trump's free marketplace philosophy. But, you know, we've got to get -- we as a country have to get stuff passed. And right now, it's not happening.

STU: As a general philosophy, Bill, do you think it's good to take these baby steps?

BILL: You have to because the constituencies so vary and when you have ObamaCare saying we're not going to

issue any policies to Americans, well, what's going to happen is that there are going to be a lot of people who are not going to be able to buy health insurance, and then you're really in trouble. So you have to basically stabilize first and then build on that.

PAT: Why is it, though, and maybe it's just the way it feels to me. But it seems like it's always when we have the -- we have the executive branch, Republicans have the executive. They have the Senate, they have the house. When Democrats are in that position, they never take baby steps. They get ObamaCare done. When the Republicans are in the majority and have the White House, we have to do baby steps. Why is that?

BILL: The Democratic party is run now by the progressive left which has intimidated moderate Democrats, all from one Joe Manchin from West Virginia. He seems to be the only one who will look at things and come up with a problem-solving idea. So whatever it is, it's either Democratic hierarchy, the Democrats are afraid of their leadership. The Republicans are not. They're not afraid of Ryan or of McConnell. So very conservative Republicans say, look, we're just not going to go along with it because we want X, Y, Z. There isn't the fear that there is in the Democratic side. Democrats vote block. I mean, can you believe that Kate's law might go down in the Senate? A law that is so badly needed and would protect all Americans and even immigrants and illegal aliens. Everybody would be protected, and the Democratic party is going to vote and block against it in the Senate? It's insane. But they are fearful because if they go against the hierarchy, they'll cut their money off. Okay? The packs control all the money for people going for reelection in the senate and the house, and then they'll launch a primary. You know, if you're a moderate Democrat, the progressive leadership will put somebody up against you, a far left person up against you and if you understand them, and these people are scared to death of that. So that's why the Democratic party votes and block, whereas Republicans don't.

STU: I mean, the border's a good example of this too because it's a constant let down when they get into power. Health care feels that way as well, and I think what's frustrating about a lot of people, Bill is that a lot of the people now who are saying we can't get a full repeal. We can't have a much more aggressive free market health care plan. We have to settle for this because we have a bunch of varying constituencies, which I understand. That's a very valid point. However, these same people when they knew Barack Obama would veto it did vote for stronger things. They acted as if they wanted those things when they knew it wouldn't pass, and that I think is what makes people so cynical about politics.

BILL: Well, people are furious on both parties. They're angry that our leadership in Washington is basically blunting, and whether you like Trump or not, Trump basically rises above that and says, look, we're going to do X, Y, Z on immigration, so what happens? Well, people don't come here now. I mean, a series of articles, even in the liberal press where Central Americans and Mexicans are saying I'm not even going to bother, it's too expensive and dangerous to do it and if I get caught, I'm going to get shipped right back. So the crossings on the southern border way down. Way down. Not because of any legislation. Not because of a wall because that wall hasn't been built yet. It's because of the perception that Trump is going to send us back. So that's the kind of leadership that is appealing to many Americans and why Trump won. But the gridlock in Washington, my god, they don't get anything done. You can't get Kate's law done? You can't get that? It is. It's infuriating. Money dictates what these people do.

STU: How do you expect the G20 negotiations to affect the global banana trade?

BILL: I think the banana trade after this show, the Glenn Beck show.

PAT: It's going to be huge; right?

BILL: He was insincere about bananas.

[Laughter]

PAT: He was kind of insincere.

BILL: It's going to skyrocket. There's a lot of potassium involved, and we know that. Now, the global warming people don't like potassium because it can impact, you know, and make things a little warmer. But I still think the banana trade is going to go through the roof as this program spans the globe.

STU: You really could do a monolog about anything, huh?

BILL: Any topic, I can do five about it. Whatever you want.

STU: Will you come back on the other side, Bill? I would love to get your take on Chris Christie. What his future could possibly be. (888) 727-Beck. Bill O'Reilly is with us. Glenn is going to be back here in just a couple of minutes to talk about Chris Christie, who may be the least popular governor in American history, according to polling.

PAT: At least who hasn't committed a major felony; right?

STU: Yeah, that's the way it's going to turn out.

PAT: Pretty amazing.

STU: Back with Bill here in just a minute. (888) 727-Beck is our phone number.

GLENN: Back with the one and only legend Bill O'Reilly.

PAT: What? Oh, sorry. I didn't hear.

GLENN: I said legend.

PAT: Yes.

GLENN: In his own mind. Bill O'Reilly from BillOreilly.com. I don't appreciate the fact that he was on my program just a few minutes ago saying I didn't take the seizure of bananas by the oppressed as a riveting, riveting story and somehow I was belittling bananas, the banana industry and the need, desire, and just crave and want of bananas by the oppressed.

PAT: You did take umbrage to that?

GLENN: I did. Bill O'Reilly, welcome back to the program. I heard you talk about the border wall just a second ago. Do you think that the border wall is still going to happen?

BILL: Somewhat. It's not going to be a full border wall, but they will put in, you know, a high-tech situation in various sectors that they believe --

GLENN: Without any movement on this now with the trouble that he is having, does this happen as something that he can run on and say see? I told you I was building a wall, and I have broken ground on a lot of the wall, or is this -- I need a -- I need these guys, you know, in the senate to help me to get started.

BILL: No, I don't think so. Just today over in Europe he said once again that Mexico's going to pay for the wall. He's going to do something. He can do it by executive order.

PAT: But there won't be a big, beautiful 40-foot wall with a beautiful door in it.

BILL: No, for example, where you live, you're not going to have a wall there. It's very hard to get through and all of that. You don't need it. But, you know, in places like Arizona where, you know, there's a lot of trouble, then you'll see, you know, the thing go up. So it's more of a symbolic thing than anything else.

STU: That's quite an admission, though. We're not even six months into this thing, and it's his signature issue, and it doesn't seem like anyone actually believes he's going to build this thing at this point. Not even Ann Coulter.

BILL: Well, the signature issue is really the economy. That's really what it's all about. So if the economy gets better and people are making more money, and they feel more secure, they're going to give him a pass on some of the other things, as long as the intent is there, and that's what's going on.

GLENN: Okay. Let me switch gears and talk about a couple of other things. First of all, the beached whale story that happened over the weekend. Oh, no, I confused that with the other story. Chris Christie in New Jersey.

PAT: Why do you confuse that with the Chris Christie story?

GLENN: I don't know.

PAT: That's weird.

GLENN: He is the most unpopular governor in America now. And that's saying something. There's only three people -- is he number three at the bottom?

STU: He's number four right now the least popular governor as far as polling has ever shown. And that is ahead of him -- first of all, he's at 15 percent. That was taken before the beach incident. So I would assume that's going to drop. Only governor ahead of him 2016 Frank in Alaska, at 14 percent. He named his daughter to be senator, so that was not a popular move. 2008, rod went to 8 percent. Obviously, he's in prison.

GLENN: Yeah, went to prison.

STU: And 2005 also criminal charges against Bob Taft in Ohio, he's at 7 percent.

GLENN: So what happened with Chris Christie?

BILL: Well, Christie's play is this. He know he's not going to do public service ever again. This is what I believe. All right? So he's out of the public service business. So what business does he want to get into besides importing bananas? He wants to get into the media business; right? That's what he wants to do. Now, there have been all kinds of rumors in the New York area that he wants to do sports radio, radio talk, that kind of thing. So what better way to get his name out there as a controversial guy than to go to his lavish beach home as the state of New Jersey provides their governors when all the other beaches are closed because the state couldn't pass a budget. So he's the only one on the beach, and then he allows himself to be photographed in a lounge chair with his grin on his face. He knows what he's doing. Gendering controversy, get his name out there, so he will get some kind of media play.

STU: But that's not a guy --

GLENN: I'm not excited to tune into the guy who just gave his state the shaft. It's not, like, oh, man, I can't wait to hear what he has to say.

BILL: He could go to sports. He could go to news too on the radio. I don't think he could do TV.

JEFFY: Are you fat shaming?

BILL: He'll get a sampling, Beck. He will. People around here will tune him in.

GLENN: I think you're right. On politics, radio is so heavily right and Chris Christie has almost zero credibility with the right, which is amazing because he went from --

BILL: He'll go in, and he'll shake it, you know? So he's got -- that's what he's angling for, and I think he's going to get some kind of media contract.

STU: For fat TV host better male, this is a place for them at the Blaze.

GLENN: Yeah, we're all fat here.

BILL: Maybe you want to use the word zoftig. Fat is a little blunt.

STU: Zoftig? I've never heard that.

BILL: It's a German-based word. I picked it up when I was in Berlin.

GLENN: Bananas.

BILL: Maybe rotund.

GLENN: Rotund I know. Zoftig is not a pretty word. Let's switch gears to the baby in England. 11 months old. National health care, they want to pull the plug, we're waiting for the English version of the Supreme Court to give the ruling. The baby has already been accepted to a hospital here in New York. The Vatican has offered to take the baby at the Bambino hospital. In fact, the Pope yesterday said they will issue the family a Vatican passport so the baby can be taken out of the hospital and make them Vatican citizens. What do you think is about this story?

BILL: Well, I think the British authorities would be insane not to allow the Vatican to take the baby and treat the baby and, you know, Trump has weighed in and said we'll take the baby here in the USA, and there will be enough people, of course, to donate money to pay the bills and stuff like that. So if the British government says, no, we're going to allow the baby to die, that's going to be an enormously big story that's going to be really bad for the UK. So I don't believe they'll do it. But I would like to see them cooperate with the Vatican on that. On a life issue like that.

GLENN: What's amazing -- if you haven't followed this story, go to Charlie's fight.org. I think this is a battle more than for western life, this is a battle, Bill, that is a bellwether on our humanity as the west.

BILL: Well, it certainly goes right into euthanasia and abortion debate. But, you know, clear-thinking human beings will say, look, if the baby is going to be treated, let the process play out, you know? Why would you want to abort the process?

So, yeah, you're right. I mean, these crazy, insane choice people -- not everybody is at that level who just say euthanasia, fine. State of Oregon totally out of control, no limits on abortion. You can do whatever you want for any reason. Nothing stopping the fetus, the unborn. We reach a point in a moral conversation where you can't defend these kinds of actions. And the UK could not defend not allowing that baby every opportunity and its family.

GLENN: So, Bill, this is the Slate magazine came out immediately and said the right's going to make this into death panels and. And that's what this is. This is a death panel.

BILL: Right. It's a ruling that the baby doesn't have the right to treatment.

GLENN: To eat up more resources.

BILL: Yeah, to treatment. Even though the baby is now -- has an opportunity to go away from the UK so that they don't have to deal with the situation any longer. So that's why I'm saying the British aren't stupid. They're not going to do that.

GLENN: Let's just noodle this out for a second if you have socialized medicine, and you're going to have to ration medicine, which they are. They're so far in debt with their nationalized medicine over in Great Britain, it's killing them. And they have to ration the care. So if you're rationing the care, you have to make this decisions that says this is not worth the investment because the odds of survival are so low. What makes that -- argue from the logical point of view to a liberal that says, well, yeah, but why should this baby have a chance? Because they have wealth or access to money. But nobody else's baby has that chance. We have to even the playing field and everybody has to have a fair shake.

BILL: Well, when you're talking about life and death, there is in a matter of a comparative matter. Of whether you can save the baby or elongate the baby's life, you do it. And economics shouldn't enter into it. I don't believe in socialized medicine. I lived in England for a year. I know that there's a back up. I know in Canada, for example, you have to wait for a complicated surgery, which is why thousands of Canadians come to the United States for it. So that kind of the government makes calls the shots on life and death. That is not compatible with my he view of life, and I would think most people in America would say the same thing. They don't want the government to say who lives and dies because of money.

GLENN: Did you read the pope's actual statement?

BILL: I did not read it.

GLENN: You should, Bill, as a Catholic, I would be interested to hear what you have to say. Because he didn't say -- he said, you know, this is a very complicated matter -- which it's really not. It's not complex. The money's there. The baby has been offered treatment elsewhere. It's not complex at all. But he was not John Paul, who would have come out and had come out and said, you know, that big state making and decisions for families is not right and the family needs to be empowered and all life is sacred. He didn't use any of that language. He said it's a complicated matter. He understood and we shouldn't reject the state being involved. Basically saying, you know, we need to understand that parents sometimes have a hard time with these decisions and shouldn't be left alone. It was a really treading the line kind of statement.

BILL: All right. Yes, ma'am, the offer, so that's number one, and he is a different guy. He's not doctrinaire. He tries to get as many people as possible into his outlook or his point of view, and he doesn't like to make judgments about certain things because then he believes that alienates people and cuts off the conversation. So I'm a big actions speak louder than words guy, and I applaud what the Vatican is doing, I hope the UK takes their offer and sends the family to Rome and let the life process play out there, and that would be a huge win for not only the family and the baby, but for the cause of life. And so that's what I hope happens.

GLENN: BillOreilly.com. BillOreilly.com is the website where you can hear Bill every single day. You launch maybe this fall with a new TV show?

BILL: We're not sure yet what we're going to do with the TV thing. It's complicated.

GLENN: I know.

BILL: But we're certainly going to upgrade the BillOreilly.com. And I love how you say you said it this time as opposed to the beginning of the interview when I didn't feel the sincerity.

GLENN: No. Bill I didn't. When I say BillOreilly.com, I mean it. When I say BillOreilly.com, I don't feel it. It's not the same.

BILL: I want you to read Legends & Lies: The Civil War.

GLENN: And there's nothing like Legends & Lies: The Civil War.

BILL: That's right. I know you're a history buff and like to learn.

GLENN: I was in a bookstore, and it's shameful how many books he has. But they're all great. Great for your kids as well. History at Bill O'Reilly. Thanks, Bill, talk to you next week.

BILL: All right. We'll talk to you.

RFK Jr.: America’s Economic Collapse Will Bring a REVOLUTION | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 217
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RFK Jr.: America’s Economic Collapse Will Bring a REVOLUTION | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 217

“There’s going to be a revolution" if the economic destruction of America continues, warns Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The “billionaire boys club” at the World Economic Forum is “arranging the world to shift wealth upwards and to clamp down totalitarian controls on everybody else.” This episode of "The Glenn Beck Podcast" is part of an ongoing series to introduce you to the 2024 presidential candidates. In a discussion ranging from Big Pharma and the Patriot Act to Iran and the Second Amendment, RFK Jr. explains what he would do if he defeated both President Biden and Donald Trump to become America's next president. After agreeing on the current conflict in Israel, Ukraine, COVID-19, the administrative state, and the First Amendment, Glenn presses RFK Jr. on guns, ESG, and some of his past statements on climate change ... including one that directly targeted Glenn. In the end, although they may not agree on everything, they do agree: Democrats, Republicans, and big corporations are ALL a “stage show” largely operating under control of mega investment firms like BlackRock. It's the elites vs. the rest of us.

Bitcoin Halving EXPLAINED: Will This One Be DIFFERENT?
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Bitcoin Halving EXPLAINED: Will This One Be DIFFERENT?

The Bitcoin halving is here, but what is this event and will it be different from previous ones? Glenn and Stu explain what a Bitcoin halving is, what usually happens, and why some believe there won’t be a spike in Bitcoin value this time around. But are they right? Or is it still a good time to buy?

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Hey, today is Bitcoin. What they call the havoc. Right?

STU: Happy havoc day, to those who celebrate. Yes. Ten hours away from now, it looks like.

GLENN: It sounds like something that would maybe happen, in -- what was that?

That film happened in Norway. It was like that summer festival.

It's like the halving, and they're all gathered in some beautiful place.

STU: Yes. What was that movie?

What was that? It was very -- it was one I wouldn't watch.

GLENN: It was creepy.

It could have been called the Halving.

Or, you know, When Magic Goes Bad. David Copperfield stars in the Halving. Now, I have to cut this woman in half. And he can't put her back. Maybe I don't --

STU: That would be a good plot. That's not what the halving is for Bitcoin though.

GLENN: Yeah.

STU: And you've seen the price go up. There's been various reasons for that over the past year.

The ETFs. Meaning a lot of money is flowing into Bitcoin for the first time, really. That is a big catalyst of it.

The other is the halving, which happens, what? Every four years.

You don't know exactly what will happen. As they get closer and closer, they can specify.

And it will be today, at some point. About ten hours from now.

GLENN: And what does it mean exactly?

STU: Basically, when Bitcoin started. You have to have miners with, who are going to mine the Bitcoin to kind of bring it into availability for everybody.

GLENN: And you knew this would involve minors.

STU: No, it's not like Jeffrey Epstein. Think of a coal miner, except digitally.

GLENN: Different kind of miner. Okay. All right. What are they wearing? Are they wearing pants?

STU: That's not important. That's not important. By the way, Bitcoin miners know they're not wearing pants. They're in their underwear in their mother's basement. At least that's how it started. It was people in their underwear in their mom's basement, basically. And they were mining tons and tons of Bitcoin.

Now, remember, Bitcoin, there will only ever be 21 million of them. They are sort of -- think of them being mined. They are slowly mined, this time, I think we've mined, 2140. I don't know. It's a long way. But the basic idea with the halving, is every four years the reward for the miners gets cut in half. So the reason that's important, is the supply shrinks.

So maybe, you go back years and years and years. There's tons and tons of Bitcoin going on. Getting mined every single day.

Now, that number gets cut in half.

It was like each block, which is about every ten minutes.

Each one of those, it was six Bitcoin. Were freed into the world.

Like released into the world.

Now it's like three. It shrinks every four years. 1.75. 1.5. Or 1.25. It's not exact numbers.

GLENN: Until it gets to zero and there's no more Bitcoin left.

STU: And that's at 21 million Bitcoin. So you are now at -- I think it's six to three, roughly, in this particular halving. And the other part about the halving that has been important to note, is every time, there has been one, over the next six months, there has been a massive increase in the prophesy Bitcoin. Now, will this happen this time? No one knows. Past performance is not indicative of future results, we all know the disclaimer.

GLENN: We really do know that disclaimer. You may not know that disclaimer, but we do.
STU: Yes. Very true.

GLENN: The views of Stu are not necessarily those of the host.

STU: This is not financial advice.

Past performance is not indicative of future results. We don't know. We have also had a very large rise over the past year. So some people theorized, it's already built in.

Right?

This time, the rise we've already had, is basically part of what the halving would bring. However, when you look at the charts over the past three or four or five halvings. We've had massive increases. All those times, where all of a sudden, everyone around you, was talking about Bitcoin. Almost all those periods happened between six months.

Three to nine months after a halving.

GLENN: After. Not before.

STU: Well, you've seen some rises before. Generally, speaking, the real pop has happened after.

GLENN: This has been a real pop. This brought us back to where it was.

STU: There's a reason to believe, there's more here. Again, the last one was in 2020. Do you remember the 2021 phenomenon?

Then you had a drop back down. We are now down back to where we were, 2021.

GLENN: Making a case that somebody should buy, just a fraction of Bitcoin.

STU: Okay.

GLENN: I mean, you know, when it first started, and everybody was on board. Everybody was buying Bitcoin.

Because it was like, I have three Bitcoin. You know.

STU: Yep.

GLENN: And now, most people cannot afford to buy -- no.

STU: Of course not. Let me put it this way.

Right now, you would say, Bitcoin, $60,000. Basically, it's only for a millionaire.

Someone who wants tons of money, who will throw into a Bitcoin.

You might say only millionaires can afford that.

You might say something like that. Think of it this way, there are 24.5 million millionaires just in the United States.

GLENN: 24.5 million millionaires.

STU: Yes. Right. Right now, there will never be enough Bitcoin for every millionaire in the United States to own one. That doesn't include millionaires around the world. There are already too many millionaires for just millionaires to get one of these things.

GLENN: How much of it do you think is lost? Permanently, forever, lost.

STU: Permanently. Like, for example, we know the Satoshi's account. Which, the guy who invented Bitcoin. We don't know who it is. Group of people. Or if he's dead. I think they're dead. That's my opinion. He has an account with 1 million of it, in it, that's never moved.

So we basically know, unless this guy reveals himself somehow in the future. Which is not likely, that a million of them are lost. We also know, early on, people were mining these things and getting thousands and tens of thousands of them. And just losing -- turning their computer off. And not thinking they were worth anything.

The estimates are that probably something like a third of them are lost forever. So instead of 21 million, maybe it's 14 million. Maybe it's 15 million.

Somewhere in that vicinity. Now that they're valuable, people are not losing them, of course. At least as often. It's still happening every day.

People screw it up. They lose it.

They send it to the wrong account. That stuff still happens. But you're probably talking about, let's say 15 million, that actually will exist.

You have 24.5 millionaires in the United States. In the world, you have about 60 million millionaires. So if you split up all the Bitcoin in the world, just among millionaires, they can only get a quarter of one each.

Now, if you can put some in there. The idea that these things will go down in value.

Over the very long-term. To me, is unlikely.

And part of that is, at the beginning of this, nobody knew. Right?

Like when I first invested in Bitcoin. And I don't have a lot of money in Bitcoin. But when I first started in Bitcoin. My thought was, I'm going to throw some money in this, let's see what happens.

I have absolutely no idea.

My thought was, there's a good chance. I said this to you, at the time. There's a good chance it goes to zero. It was a total gamble. I had no idea.

I liked the concept of money that can't be inflated and printed. Right?

I like that concept. That's why I was interested in it.

But, I mean, how many multi-trillion dollar industries can you remember going to zero?

I mean, is there any example of this?

GLENN: White star line. This has I don't think they were worth trillions. Right?

Enron was a big company, right?

Don't remember it being worth trillions. Bitcoin's market cap is over a trillion dollars.

GLENN: No. I can't see it going to zero. Unless all the central banks in the world say, not --

STU: It's so resistant to that right now. Though.

GLENN: I know.

STU: We're seeing countries open up. And start accepting it. You know, the United States of America, has now accepted Bitcoin ETFs. That's a huge embrace of this technology.

And look, I don't know. I can't tell you, it won't go down in the future. I would be surprised if it never goes down below these levels again. It probably will.

So you might buy today. And at some point, be down.

A lot of people bought in 2021. And thought, oh, my gosh, I've lost all my money.

Except, now pretty much every person who has ever bought Bitcoin in its history, if they held on to it, is either about even or up.

GLENN: Everybody. Even the people who bought at the very peak.

STU: Everybody. Yeah, unless you bought like a couple of months ago, when it hit 69-70 for a couple of days. There's a few people.

But generally speaking, almost no one who has ever purchased this and kept it, has lost money.

And that's that's quite a statement. Again, what other investments can you point to, that has that type of record?

There's almost none. So I don't know. You don't know what the future holds, but man, this is a technology that has proved itself incredibly resilient.

GLENN: I get really pissed at you, every time we talk about this. Every time.

STU: You get pissed at me.

Why are you pissed at me?

GLENN: Yes, I do. I blame you for bad decisions. Blame you.

STU: Why?

GLENN: I was with Marc Andreessen.

STU: Yes.

GLENN: It might have even been a fraction of a cent.

STU: It was before -- well before I bought it. That's for sure.

Because I remember the conversation.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's going to start some new thing with this new currency.

STU: Yeah. I remember you telling me this, at the time. I fortunately, did not listen.

GLENN: Yeah. Neither did I. Neither did I.

And we could have put hundred dollars in it, at this point.

STU: Oh, my gosh.

$100. Do you know how much that would be worth?

GLENN: It was a fraction of a cent. Wasn't it?

STU: I don't remember if it was that low, but it was really early.

GLENN: It was right as he started the digital wallet.

Coinbase. It was right as he started it.

STU: Gosh. This makes me physically ill.

GLENN: I think he actually told me that before he started it.

Or he may have --

STU: In the middle of making money or whatever.

GLENN: Yeah. He said, do you know anything about Bitcoin. You should invest.

Just take $5,000. And just throw it in this. And I'm like, uh-huh.

And I -- at the time, $5,000 was -- you know.

STU: You would probably be a billionaire.

GLENN: I would be.

STU: I can't imagine how many you would have -- I love this story.

GLENN: Well, look it up. Look it up.

Look up when they opened Coinbase.

And what the price of Bitcoin was. $5,000.

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GLENN: So go ahead.

STU: What?

GLENN: Why he didn't you invest in it? You're always -- you're that kind of guy. You know, I just threw some money in it. Why didn't you --

STU: I mean, I think I did. I just didn't do it as early as that.

Again, I wish I had invested more. Then I wouldn't have to be sitting here with you every day. It would be a dream.

GLENN: If I had a time machine, that's the only thing I would change. And for that reason. I would go back in time.

STU: You would make me -- you actually wouldn't mind making me a billionaire, just so I wouldn't have to be here every day?

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. That's the kind of guy I am.

STU: How about this, I'll it do for 10 mil right now. Get some financing.

So it depends. It's hard to know exactly when you talk to him. The Coinbase started in 2012. Coinbase is a little later, when you're talking a fraction of a cent, so it was about ten bucks in 2020 -- when it actually started selling Bitcoin. When Coinbase began that process, it was about ten bucks.

If you spent $5,000 then, you would have had about 500 Bitcoin, which would be worth $32.5 million. Which would be incredibly nice. However, my remembrance of this story was, it was before -- before that. When it was sort of being dreamt up.

So it could have been.

GLENN: It was one of the first times I've ever heard of Bitcoin. And I think I came back to you. And I said, what is Bitcoin?

And you were like, well, people buy pizzas with it.

STU: This is ridiculous history.

GLENN: That's exactly what he said.
STU: I don't think I knew much of anything. I had heard of it. But I didn't know anything about it at that time -- I definitely was not discouraging you in investing $5,000. That's exactly how you remember it.

GLENN: That's exactly how I remember it, Your Honor.

STU: And one fascinating thing I think that really hasn't fully taken -- taken root yet when it comes to the Bitcoin phenomenon.

GLENN: By the way, hang on just a second. I just have to say something. I said at the time. I said that, on the air too.

STU: Oh, really?

We should go back and find it.

We can probably find it.

GLENN: Marc Andreessen. He's at Bitcoin.

Blah, blah, blah. But Warren Buffett. He says, if you don't understand it, you shouldn't invest in it.

STU: Where did you find that?

GLENN: I wonder if anybody. If anybody did it.

What our earliest time was, when we said. Hey, maybe you should throw some money into it.

I don't know if I will do it. If anybody in the audience. Of course, there was somebody that was in the audience.

They're not now.

STU: Showing, they're billionaires.

GLENN: On a yacht someplace.

STU: I think that's one of the things that's most interesting in a societal sense.

That we had a lot of people. Because the early people into Bitcoin. Not like the people necessarily today.

But the early people into Bitcoin. Were people who generally speaking, were ideologically let's say Libertarian.

Or somewhat close to that.

GLENN: Yes. Correct.

STU: And there are now massive amounts of people, who became insanely wealthy over this process. And continue probably to get even wealthier.

And those people who would have probably been marginalized in society, at some level.

Maybe they would of been successful. But would never have that sort of power.

GLENN: No. They're the losers. Loaners. And creeps.

STU: And we've seen.

I mean, Libertarians, will describe themselves this way.

So we've seen now, that many of these people have made an impact. Right?

We've seen a lot of them. Marc Andreessen. Not necessarily, an ideological Libertarian. A lot of these people have risen.

Two of the richest people in the world. Are the Winklevoss twins. The people who had Facebook stolen from them.

GLENN: I think they're fictional characters.

STU: They may be. They were in a movie once. So I don't know.

GLENN: Sure. Anybody can play them. But I think anybody with Winklevoss as their name. And they're twins. I think it's too magical to be real.

STU: It's hard to believe.

GLENN: It is. It is.

Oh, let's call on the Winklevoss twins.

STU: For everything --

GLENN: Show up. Say their names three times.

Hi, we're here to grant any wish, with our magical Bitcoin.

STU: Right. Consider that they basically had Facebook -- in my opinion, Facebook stolen from them. They wound up getting thrown out.

Got some money for it. Were not insanely wealthy.

Wound up not with one, but two giant revolutions of the world.

They were at the founding of almost -- they invested a fortune in Bitcoin, right after that.

And now were multi-billionaires because of it. It's a weird people that wouldn't have normally been at the top of our society. Are now there. And hopefully, they've kept some of these small government routes, through that process.

And maybe they can Friday the country, in a way --

GLENN: No. No. Because when you get that wealthy. What you do, you know, I can get somebody on the phone.

I can make this happen. I don't want a stop sign here.

And I think we should also kill the poor. I will get both of those done. I will call my council member. And, you know, my master at the WEF.

You know what you know I mean?

You start protecting it, and then that all goes to hell.

STU: Maybe. Who knows?

GLENN: We should do what Star Trek did, and abolish all money. Learn how to live in harmony.

STU: That worked out well for them. They were poor in episode.

What are you talking about?

GLENN: How did they pay for those starships? How ridiculous was that?

WEAK or BRILLIANT? Israel’s Response to Iran EXPLAINED
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WEAK or BRILLIANT? Israel’s Response to Iran EXPLAINED

Israel has struck multiple targets inside Iran in retaliation for its recent 300-missile attack. But was this limited strike wimpy or brilliant? Former Department of Defense intelligence analyst Jason Buttrill joins Glenn to argue the latter. As opposed to Iran’s massive, but unsuccessful, attack, Israel launched a successful precision attack that showed Iran it could strike the country whenever and wherever it wanted — without Iran knowing. Jason, Glenn, and Stu also discuss why the increased tension in the region is all Biden’s fault. Plus, they review how YOUR tax dollars allegedly went to the families of Palestinian terrorists.

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GLENN: We're dealing with a true ancient evil in the Middle East. It was -- we have Jason Buttrill here, who is main researcher for the Glenn Beck Program and also watches over military operations, and conflicts all around the world for me.

Explain, what happened yesterday, with Israel, and this wuss response from Israel.

Was this the response? Or a response?

What was this?

JASON: This was a brand response, in my opinion.

GLENN: Was it?

JASON: Well, what Israel essentially did. It's kind of -- all three of us. You asked us, what is going to happen?

We were all collectively right. You said, they would strike back at other targets. Which they did. In Syria and Iraq.

But they also struck in Iran. But it's definitely in the Middle East.

The proxy status is dissolving right before our eyes.

The proxy locations. They hit proxy locations. There's not a whole lot of information we do know.

What it looks to me, when analyzing previous attacks, is that these are locations that have been given Iranian weaponry, specifically like cruise missiles, and shorter range missile systems like the kind that hit Israel.

But they also struck near Isfahan in Iran. That's their main missile manufacturing area is right there.

So this was a very limited strike. I would say, maybe a few planes. Maybe a few planes.

They didn't even. I don't even think they launched the missiles from Iranian territory.

Which means probably somewhere over Iraq. They were able to reach up and touch Iran, without Iran knowing a thing about it. And completely destroying the targets they wanted to destroy.

Iran launched 350 plus missiles. Couldn't kill a single thing. Or destroy a single thing. They did this, in such a way, that showed Iran, we could hit you, whenever we want.

You will never know it. And it will be precise.


GLENN: Such a good thing for the people of Iran.

Because you cannot turn the people of Iran.

JASON: Exactly right.

GLENN: They're not part of this.
JASON: No. And there was no collateral damage that we know of, at the moment. This is how you restore deterrents. This is exactly how -- and let's be honest here. This is not a surprise or a secret, that the proxy status is dissolving in front of us.

And that the Middle East is becoming something new and something terrible. This is the result of foreign policy. This is Joe Biden's foreign policy. He went away from the Abraham Accords.

Reengaged with Iran. Coddled Iran. This is what you get. This is exactly what you get, and it is entirely unmet.

STU: And it's interesting too, that there is a level of deescalation here, by Israel as well.

Like, they did -- yes. This is as far as they have gone, right?

But it is considerably less than what Iran tried to do.

JASON: It's deescalation through strength. Iran has no choice, but to go back to their quote and say, we concluded this concluded. They had no choice.

Because right now, you have a bunch of mullahs sitting around the table going, oh, crap. We're kind of screwed here.

STU: Do you think that's what they will do? Are they going to say -- are they basically going to not respond after this?

JASON: I highly doubt against Israel proper. I highly doubt. I think they go back to the way Israel operates. Because they are decades behind Israel. Texting. And it really is jaw-dropping i mean, not only Israel, but the United States, all of our ally allies, how much far ahead we are against this axis of evil, like Iran, North Korea, russia.

They're crazy, and can do some crazy things. But we are way ahead of them. And as this shows, I mean, it really is kind of breathtaking and amazing just how efficient Israel is.

GLENN: So this not will maybe improve your mood much. But according to the Palestinian Authority's official news outlet, the Palestinian General Intelligence Service on April 4th provided a grant for 36 families perform of agency families who died or were in prison, as a result of their involvement in anti-Israel security crimes.

And they paid their families off, with money that came from us.

PAT: Unbelievable.

GLENN: We will pay the families of the martyrs, and they are using American dollars, that we are giving them to reward the martyrs and the families. So you've always got that one going for you.

PAT: Sorry. American dollars. Going to the Palestinians. Hamas.

American dollars going to Israel. As it should be, I believe, right now. American dollars also going to Iran.

American dollars going to Iraq. American dollars that will be spent when we have to deal with a lot of this stuff.

Where is there not the stain of our ridiculous foreign policy, geopolitics, how we teal with the entire region and world?

We're funding every single side here.

GLENN: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And -- and the right side, we're funding, I think, kind of against the government's will.

I think they will cut off the money for Iran. I mean, I'm sorry. For Israel in a heartbeat. If they could. They could get away with it. They would cut it off in a heartbeat.

Look at what's happening around our own country right now.

And no one is saying anything about it. You have people chanting death to America.

Quoting the Ayatollah Khomeini. In -- in large sections, and large numbers of major cities.

You have the campuses. What happened yesterday, in Columbia?

Police had to come in, and shut the whole thing down, yesterday.

We were talking to the -- the consulate yesterday. The Israeli consulate.

What is the university in New Orleans?

Tulane?

It has 50 percent. 50 percent of the population of Tulane, is Jewish. There are protesters there. And the Jewish students, don't feel safe!

JASON: Yeah.

GLENN: And who is doing anything about it?

JASON: That's why. I understand where Israel is coming from.

But I think they need to mass produce the video they showed us yesterday.

It has to be everywhere. It can no longer be ignorance, for you to chant death to America. That has to do with Iran. Iran greenlit the October 7th -- they have to!

GLENN: I asked them.

I said, look, can I put out a general call and say, come to a movie theater, with me?

And you guys can present it. But you can come in.

You know, we'll vet you in advance. So we know who you are.

And see it. And they said, no.

We can't do that.

STU: They just don't want everyone. What's reasoning?

It's disturbing for the families of these people?

GLENN: No. The families in many of these cases. One of the more disturbing things was the attack on the family. And these two little boys.

JASON: Oh, my gosh.

GLENN: I mean, it was unbelievable. And the mom survived. And she insisted that that video be included.

She's like, no. No. No, no. The world needs to see what happened to my family.

And so what was it she said? She said, we just can't --

JASON: She said, the people that see it, need to have a reason to see it. Or something like that.

GLENN: Yeah. She didn't -- I think their deal is, they don't want to deal in death. You know, they don't want to be seen as just -- but I have to tell you, it is -- it is -- if we could have seen the death camps in advance.

Okay?

If the American people could have seen the beginning of the death camps. And the showers. It's not enough to talk about it.

It just not enough.

JASON: I want to see these people continue to protest in that way.

If they have seen that part of the video and just a quick narration, these terrorists march into a village. They slaughter a dog, that was running up with a happy, wagging tail.

GLENN: Okay. Not an enemy.

JASON: Slaughter the dog.

It was a friendly dog. Then they go through, and you see their body cam turn, as it looks into the screen window. They shoot an old person sitting there in front of the -- behind the window.

You hear them groan and drop. Then you go to this specific voice with the boys. It turns to CCT footage camera.

They're in their underwear. You can tell they're woken up by the gun shots. This is -- the father takes the two kids, hides them. Shields them with his body from a grenade, and he drops instantly. Then the two kids are screaming, why am I alive? Is he dead? Why am I alive?

GLENN: Little kids. Little kids. One of them said.

JASON: Six, eight.

GLENN: Yeah, one of them said to the other, I think we're going to die. And the other brother came and comforted him and tried to, you know, heal him. The little kid had lost the vision in his eye. Couldn't see in both. He's gained back his vision now, in one eye. But the other brother was shielding him.

It was shocking!

JASON: And then, what do the terrorists do? They walk through the house, and start rummaging through their refrigerator. Drinking the juice and the Coke and stuff, looking for food.

It's the most animalist thing I've ever seen.

GLENN: And the kids were smart enough to hide. They ran and hid. I don't know where they hid.

JASON: That was God stuff right there.

GLENN: That was. How they got out of that house alive, and hid. When you saw -- you see the entire community. Everyone is dead. Everyone is dead.

JASON: Yeah.

GLENN: I mean, it was -- it's what happened in Poland, in Czechoslovakia.

When the -- when the people would go into towns. And they would put everybody into a church. They would chain the doors. And they would burn it all down.

And every single Jew in the community was dead. That's what it was.

It's shocking. And how these two kids survived is beyond me, other than a miracle from God.

JASON: I spoke to an IDF guy. He was probably in his 90s. And he was in the six-day war. It was in Sderot.

GLENN: Sderot was hit?

JASON: Sderot was hit as well.

GLENN: I've been there.

JASON: I asked him. How the heck did you guys win? He goes, at times, it felt like God closed their eyes and shut their ears. And that quote came back to me, when those two little boys when you see them run around the corner, when there's terrorists everywhere.

GLENN: There's CCTV footage on this whole area. And so you can follow the kids.

And they're running -- as soon as they leave the door. I don't know. Nobody spoke during this thing. But as soon as they opened the door, I'm like, don't do it. Stay inside. Stay inside.

And they run out. And then you see them running in an open space, between houses. And there are guys just shooting everything. Shooting everything.

And they just run and snake around, and they're not even -- they're kids. They're not trying to be, you know, low to the ground or anything.

They're just running like little kids run, in an open field.

And somehow or another, nobody saw them to kill them.

It's --

STU: Wow. They were survived.

GLENN: They survived. They survived. They survived.

STU: Let me ask you this: How would this play out?

If one of these large protests. The pro-Hamas protests we've been seeing ail around the country.

If you had two thousands of individuals people there, at one of these protests.

And somehow, or one of the big walls nearby, they just played this footage. How does that crowd react to it?

GLENN: That crowd will start saying, very soon, that this is all deepfake.

Let me give you --

STU: They would deny it.

They would be won over. And see the horror.

GLENN: Maybe some would.

The hard cores definitely won't. Hard cores definitely won't.

Let me just give you, this is the polling from the Palestinian territories of Hamas. This is taken after -- after October 7th.

95 percent of the Palestinians when asked, do you think people around you, will forgive what Israel did in this war some day?

This is -- this is asked like October 10th.

No. We will not forgive at all. Seventy-five percent of Palestinians are extremely supportive of the military operation led by Hamas on October 7th.

76 percent of Palestinians. Somewhat positive. Very positive view of the roll of Hamas. 97 percent of Palestinians have a very negative view of Israel.

97 percent, very negative view of the role of America.

84 percent of Palestinians have a very positive view of the roll of Islamic jihad.

74 percent. When presented with a choice of a two-state solution. Or a Palestinian state. From the river to the sea.

74 percent say, river to the sea. When asked about their own preference for the party, who should be in control?

60 percent said, Hamas.

85 percent -- 85 percent, responding to the videos. No. I'm sorry.

93 percent, responding to October 7th.

93 percent said, that they were fine.

That Hamas didn't commit any atrocities. On October 7th.

93 percent, no atrocities!

And you can't tell me, it's just because they didn't watch the videos.

A lot of these videos came from their own video channels.

That everybody is accessing.

And the people on the streets, know exactly what was going on.

JASON: That's the wrong question.

Because they don't consider killing Jews atrocities.

What Happens if Israel SACRIFICES a Red Heifer?
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What Happens if Israel SACRIFICES a Red Heifer?

Rumors are spreading that Israelis are planning to sacrifice a red heifer around Passover. But will the sacrifice actually be made, what would it mean for Jews and Christians, and what would happen next? Shoreshim Ministries founder Bill Cloud joins Glenn to explain: Will it usher in the End Times? Will the Temple be rebuilt? What does a red heifer even symbolize? What happened the last time Israel found red heifers? Have they built an altar? Should Christians see this as a sign that Christ is returning soon? And should Christians even be focused on this at all?

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GLENN: It is. And we will tell you about that coming up. We have Bill Cloud on back on. He is the founder of Jacob's Tent Fellowship. Also, Shoreshim Ministries.

And he's probably -- he's taught Biblical prophecy for a long time. And what I like about him is, he's not like, we're all going to die, it's coming tomorrow. He takes a very tempered look at everything and just can give you the facts that we know. But we don't know if those are the facts that, you know, God was telling us to look for.

Is that a good explanation? Bill.

BILL: Well, I do try to be tempered.

I mean, I try to keep all of my theology, in this solar system.

GLENN: Yeah.

BILL: So, you know, I try to be that way.

GLENN: Okay. And you said yesterday, that sometimes, you know, what we think is going -- we're looking for, is not necessarily going to happen, the way we think it's going to happen.

Can you give me an example of that?

BILL: Well, yeah. In Matthew chapter 17, Josiah goes up to the top of the Mount with Peter, James, and John.

He's transfigured. His face is shining like a light.

The disciples see this. They're coming back down the mountain, and they're puzzled. Because they asked him, hey, we follow that the prophecy teachers of the day told us that Elijah could come first.

But you're already here. And you're obviously the messiah. So how come Elijah didn't come first. And he said, well, Elijah did. But you missed it.

Because you were looking for that Elijah. But you missed the whole message that John the Baptist was giving, the spirit and power of Elijah.

So that's the very quick example of, we can be looking at this. It has to look like this. It has to be this size. And everything else.

And the whole time, God is doing exactly what was said, just not the way we were looking for.

So as I said yesterday. It's very important, as we read these professes.

We interpret them. We think they will happen this way. Based on what we see going on in the world today.

But I sometimes -- and maybe even a lot of times. It doesn't happen the way we think. It just happens exactly the way God said. And it's usually after it happened, we can look and say, yeah. Okay. I see it now.

So that's an example. And that is very important, I believe. In going forward. And, you know, when we see all these things happening in the world.

GLENN: So I often have thought, if you were alive during Hitler's reign, especially if you had a front row seat to it, you had to have thought that Jesus was coming soon. But there were a lot of things that had not been accomplished. For instance, the reestablishment of Israel.

And then the gathering of Israel.

And so, you know, if you knew your Scriptures. You would go, well, no. I don't think so.

But it could happen quickly.

But now, a lot of really big things have happened.

What's -- what big prophecies have been fulfilled, and what is still out there, that we should be watching out for?

VOICE: Well, you mentioned the reestablishment of the nation of Israel in '48.

The capturing of the old city, and the reeducation of Jerusalem in '67. Which at that point, gave Jews access to the Temple Mount.

Although, temporarily. So the -- it's a big one. And I might say, that, you is still ongoing. And it has not come to its ultimate fruition.

GLENN: And what does that mean?

What does that mean? The regathering of Israel?

What does that mean exactly.

BILL: Well, to make a long story short. Because of transgression. Because of rebellion. Because of all these different sins, Israel was exiled. And to this day, a lot of Israel is still scattered through the nations. So there are these multiple prophecies about how until the last, they have gathered all of Israel into the land. To the point, this is the way Jeremiah puts it. That they will never talk about the exodus out of I didn't want. But they will talk about the exodus from all these different nations, and because we aren't talking in those terms just yet, that tells me it hasn't come to its ultimate fulfillment. But because we will talk about, in just a couple of days how God brought his people out of Egypt.

GLENN: Right.

BILL: So it's an ongoing thing. But that's a really big one. But, no, there are other things that are happening right now.

I think the Gazan War is something that is very significant. Because there are prophecies about Gaza about the land of the Philistines.

I think this war has the potential. I'm not going to make the prediction. But it has the potential to lead into other things. The attack the other night.

Iran was said to be, at least, you know, affiliated with, you know, what's going on with Gaza, and these kinds of things.

So there are things going on right now, that do set stage. Potentially, for some things to happen.

And that makes our day a little different right now.

GLENN: What -- what -- that you're saying, that Gaza could turn into.

What are you referring to?

BILL: Well, again, there are different prophecies about Gaza, how it's going to be. You know, basically. But here's the thing that jumps out at me. It's the fact that Hamas has played such a big role.

The Bible names Hamas by name. There are prophecies against Edom and Esau, and it says because of the Hamas, that you committed against your brother Jacob, which is translated violence, I'm going to deal with you.

And Obadiah, it says, because you've committed Hamas against your brother Jacob, I am going to deal with you.

In Genesis, before the days of Noah, before the flood, it says that Hamas filled the earth. So I do not believe that that is just some cosmic. That's God way before any of this, you know, we were even thought of.

God is already telling us things in the beginning, to be on the lookout.

So the fact that Hamas has been the instigator, primary instigator, as it relates to what's going on in the Gaza War right now. To me, something is very, very important. And that means, it has the potential to expand into other things. Other prophecies. They talk about the construction of Damascus. And it leading all the way up to what a lot of people are looking for in the War of Gog and Magog. So all of that is on the table, as a possibility.

Is it going to happen right now? Again, I don't know. There are things that could happen that could lead to these more dramatic events. So, anyway, that's --

GLENN: Well, the --

BILL: That's what I mean by the Gazan thing.

GLENN: Well, the destruction of Syria, Damascus could happen overnight. The return of the Jews to Israel, you would think that would be almost impossible. You know, one of the things I've been thinking lately. You know, disconnected from end time stuff.

If I were a Jew today. And I saw the whole world starting to heat up like this. There would come a time, when I would be like, you know, I'm going to Israel.

I will at least stand with my own people.

Because it's the only place, where I may not be persecuted, you know, without a shot of standing up.

BILL: Well, and I think that -- this is going to sound maybe a little bizarre.

But God's way, is to put pressure on people.

GLENN: Yes. Yes.

BILL: To move them into a place that they want them to be. I mean, that's just the plain and simple fact.

GLENN: Yes.

BILL: So I don't discount that at all.

I think these things begin to unfold. It will become increasingly unpopular in the world. To be Jewish.

To be associated with Israel. To stand with Israel.

But at the same time, you know, God uses that pressure to kind of put people in the position, he wants them to be. To kind of put people in the position -- to kind of force his will. And it's always going to be for the best interest of his people.

But it doesn't feel very good at the time when you're being subjected to all that pressure.

GLENN: Do Iran and Russia and their alliance play a role in prophecy?

BILL: Well, a lot of people think so. I'm one of those. And based, primarily, on reading Ezekiel 38 and 9. This is -- I mentioned briefly a moment ago, the war of Gog and Magog. Right?

And so if you think -- if you read the prophecy, we don't have time to do that today. But if you think that Russia is the land of Magog, then I would say yes.

In fact, that prophecy talks about how this chief prince. This ruler, over the land of Magog will come from the far north. Well, if you start in Israel and go north.

If you go to the far north, you're in Russia.

So it seems that Russia would be involved. And, of course, the old Soviet Union was never a friend to Israel.

It was a line of Israel's enemies. If I were Netanyahu, I wouldn't trust Putin as long as I can spit.

So Russia is not a good guy in this regard. And then when you read that prophecy, Ezekiel 38:9, you'll see among the confederates, the first one that is mentioned is Persia, which of course is the ancient name for Iran.

Just kind of a sidebar here. Interesting to me, anyway. The name Iran, or the modern name Iran, is derived from the word Aryan.

Maybe it -- maybe that should tell you something.

GLENN: Yeah. I've always thought so.

Before we get into the Ark of the Covenant. Which I just find fascinating.

You said that we need to watch out for Esau.

Who is Esau in the Bible? And in modern times?

BILL: Well, Esau, of course, was the older brother of Jacob. He's all red and hairy, and he's impulsive. And he's a hunter, and all these kinds of things.

And he has no regard for the birthright. He has no regard for the covenant that God made with Abraham. Jacob is the more temperate one. He values these things that are eternal. So when Jacob obtained the blessing of his father Isaac, Esau vowed to kill him.

So as you read ahead in the prophecy, you will see, even though the man, Esau died, God still addresses Esau, also known as Edom, you know, centuries later, because of your hatred towards your brother, because of the hamas toward your brother, I am going to -- I am going to deal with you in the end.

And so to me, today, Esau is epitomized in those people, like Hamas. Like Hezbollah. They have this ancient hatred. And that's the way it's termed in Ezekiel chapter five.

And I would even include, Glenn, within that mix, all these people that are getting on the Golden Gate Bridge. And stopping traffic.

And doing all these protests and standing outside the New York University, last night.

Chanting death to America. In Dearborn, Michigan. I would include that, in the people that are identified as Esau from a Biblical point of view, not so much because they're descended from that.

GLENN: No. Because of their hatred. Unreasonable hatred.

BILL: Correct.

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GLENN: Okay. So does the dome of the rock have to be destroyed for the third temple?

BILL: That's what most people think when they consider, you know, a building of the temple. Although, not everybody thinks that that is necessary.


And because there is some dispute about where the temple actually sat, where the Holy of Holies was.

There's a lot of religious -- where the dome of the rock is.

There was a gentleman, excuse me, back in the late '80s, early '90s.

A professor at the University. He felt that the holy of holies was actually a little north of the dome of the rock, at a place called the dome of the tablets of the spirits.

So most people believe that the dome of the rock has to go. There are some who believe that it's possible, that the temple could have -- it's not just north.

And technically speaking, could it be on the same platform. There's even a passage in revelation chapter seven. Where John is told to measure the temple of God. To leave the court outside. Leave that out.

The Gentiles. So some people have thought, well, maybe that is suggesting that there is going to be a temple, alongside either the dome of the rock.

Or the mosque. And, you know, I don't know. I find that problematic for a lot of reasons.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah. Kind of like the burning of the red heifer right there, you know, in Arab territory.

It might be a problem with that.

BILL: That's right.

GLENN: So, you know, the Ark of the Covenant is where they kept the Ten Commandments. And I know it was real. I know it existed. I never, ever thought, we're going to find that.

We're going to find that? Is that important for the rebuilding of the temple?

BILL: Well, technically speaking. The second temple.

This is the one that was built after the Babylonian captivity. And then Herod expanded it. That, we did not have the Ark of the Covenant in it. And it was still considered the house of God.

So there's historical precedent for rebuilding the temple and not having the ark. However, there's prophecies that talk about, how the glory of the latter house is going to be greater than the first one. Referring to Solomon, which is referring to the Ark of the Covenant.

So technically, they could rebuild it without the ark.

However, there have been those in Israel, since the reunification of Jerusalem, who not only do they want to build a temple of the Temple Mount, but they want to find the Ark of the Covenant.

And there are a lot of traditions, as to what happened to the Ark of the Covenant.

Some say, that it went to Ethiopia, which I don't believe.

Some people say, that Jeremiah hid it in Mount Nebo which is Jordan. Some people believe it's outside the old city, buried. And then there are quite a number of people. And particularly, people close to the idea of rebuilding the temple.

Who believe it's buried somewhere, and underneath the Temple Mount.

That's not really a big secret honestly. It's all oar the internet.

GLENN: No. But I find, if you know something about the Temple Mount.

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Because there's somebody a labyrinth of temples underneath, et cetera, et cetera. But I can't see how those have not been, you know, exhaustively gone through by those of the Muslim religion.

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GLENN: Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

We're glad you're here.

We're talking to bill cloud, as passover comes up on Monday.

We're talking about Biblical prophecies. Because there's a lot of stuff happening in the world right now.

Where a lot of people are going, you know. I think eye read about this someplace before.

But. No man knows when.

I mean, it could be a thousand years from now.

But it will happen at some point.

And we need to be aware. And I want to make this really clear. And, Bill, I think you'll back me up on this.

The Lord was not. He didn't look at Scriptures and was like, man. It doesn't have a snappy ending.

I want part two of this. So let me leave them on a scary cliffhanger.

The Book of Revelation was written, not to scare us.

But to say, look, all of these things will come to pass.

And it's almost. I think it's a blessing, that he says, and, you know, at this point, the seven-year clock starts to -- to tick off.

And he's telling us, this -- I'm not -- don't be shocked by these things.

They're going to be bad. And they're going to seem like they're never-ending.

But they're not.

And I'm telling you these things, so you have faith. And can make it through those times. Is that how you read it?

BILL: Absolutely. When you go to the Book of Revelation, by the way. And you look at the heading.

It says, the revelation of Jesus Christ. It does not say the revelation of the Antichrist or the tribulation or bold judgments and vile judges. It's about the Messiah. In fact, it says, in that book, that the essence of prophecy is the testimony of the messiah. The spirit of prophecy is about the messiah.

So everything about all this bad stuff, ultimately, it will point us to the messiah. Because all the bad stuff is just the Satan, and those who practice wickedness. Trying to stop the messiah from returning and sitting upon his throne in Jerusalem. To rule and reign.

So, yeah, it doesn't end on a bad note. It ends on what mankind, those who love and holiness had been longing for, since Adam was exiled from the garden.

A return, to be with God and God be in our midst. So that's the greatest thing that we could ever hope for. And all these things that we would see, is pointing us to that. So it's an excellent observation on your part.

It tells us these things. In fact, when he sat down on the Mount of Olives with his disciples. This is a -- by the way, Mount of Olives is where they will burn that red heifer when they do it. But anyway, he sits down on the Mount of Olives. And he says, tell me all these things, as you said, so you know this will happen.

But don't be dismayed. Don't fall in despair. I'm telling you these things, so that you will not be deceived.

I'm telling you these things, in advance, you won't be impulsive, and running after things that you shouldn't be running after. So when these things happen, keep your focus.

You know, kind of stay the course on what you know is true. So absolutely, I agree with you.

GLENN: Growing lawlessness is the sign of the last days. And we're seeing lawlessness, like I've never seen before.

Now, this has happened over and over again. Where societies have been lawless, and they collapse.

But lawlessness in the last days, it gives birth to the lawless one. Which is the Antichrist. Right?

BILL: Right. Exactly. That's exactly right. You know, a lot of people have thought, that the Antichrist have come to power. And he will create this lawless environment.

I believe a lawless environment gives birth to the lawless one. The final prediction of the Antichrist.

GLENN: To me, that -- that is -- makes sense.

We're -- you know, it was about 2000, oh, six. I was talking to Condoleezza Rice. And she used very specific language. She was on my show. And we were talking about, you know, what things look like now.

And, you know, what's coming our way. And she said, these things are birth pangs. Of the things to come.

And I thought, that was -- you know, rather unusual language for somebody to use.

Because it's very Scriptural.

BILL: Yeah. That's Biblical language for sure.

GLENN: Yeah, it is. And we are giving birth to something. I don't know if it's the -- you know, the Antichrist. Or the end times. Or just really, really bad times.

But there -- everything that we're seeing, these are like contractions and birth pangs. When things happen, you're like, ow. That hurt. And they're becoming faster and faster and closer and closer to one another.

We are giving birth to something.

BILL: Yeah. Well, in Hebrews, it's the birth pangs of the Messiah.

The Messiah is -- and his rule and reign, over the earth, that's what is -- that's what's being birthed. That's what's coming to fruition.

It's just in the process, the earth and everybody in it, has to go through these birth pangs.

Paul talks about how the earth is groaning and producing this travail and birth pangs. So that the sons of God will be revealed. That goes hand-in-glove with the messiah and his return. That's what's being birthed.

But just like in any birth, something that is wonderful. There's all this yuckiness, and pain and suffering.

Unfortunately, that pressure has to be there, to get those who are listening to the voice of the Lord, in the place that he wants them to be. And that is, not giving in to the lawlessness. Not giving in to the just crazy stuff, that society is pushing down our throats.

But to stay true, based on what Christians say.

So that's what's being birthed, as far as I'm concerned.

GLENN: Let me go back to the Ark of the Covenant. It seems like an Indiana Jones movie. It doesn't seem rule in some ways.

I know it is. Or I know it was.

But then it just kind of disappeared.

Nobody really knows what happened to it. People have been looking for it, forever.

And people are saying, it will be revealed. And some people believe it's under the Temple Mount.

I've stood, at the place where they say, right behind these stones, is where they think the holy of holies is.

Which is where they think the Ark of the Covenant is.

And it's a labyrinth of passageways and everything, underneath there. At least it used to be. But why -- why would it -- how could it possibly be still there, when, you know, the Muslims have been digging underneath the Temple Mount for a long time. And taking truckloads, of -- of dirt and antiquities out and just dumping them.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, how could it still be there?

You know, I don't know that I have the answer to that question. I will just say, my faith would say, if God wanted it to be there, it will still be there. He has a way of watching over things.

GLENN: Right.

But is it prophesied that it will be found and come back, or is this just something that some people think?

BILL: Well, the last time you see -- or you see a mention of the Ark of the Covenant. Is when Josiah tells the priest to take the Ark of the Covenant and put it in the house that Solomon had prepared for it. And, by the way, there are people who read into that. Well, the Ark of the Covenant was already in the temple. What is Josiah saying? Some people say, well, he was hiding it, because he knew the Babylonians were coming. And that's where some people think, well, it's hidden in somewhere around Jerusalem.

Most people close to the temple, are -- our rebuilt temple. Motivation. Think it's under the Temple Mount.

But, you know, it disappears from the record, is the point.

And the next time you see anything mentioned. It's in the Book of Revelation, actually.

After all this other stuff is over with.

All the bad stuff.

So, yeah. It is a big mystery.

I will tell you a quick story. Ninety-two.
I and another gentleman, along with an Israeli friend, we went to the office of Rabbi Yehuda Getz, who at that time was over all of the holy places in Jerusalem.

And to make a long story short, Rabbi Getz did not believe that the Ark of the Covenant was in Ethiopia. He did not believe it was there.

He felt very confident, he knew where the Ark of the Covenant was. And he did not tell us. But our Israeli friend, later told us, that in the early '80s, along with a lot of the men who were participants, in the relitigation of Jerusalem. '67. Actually, when these excavations begun, they were looking for the Ark of the Covenant. Because they believed that it was under the temple mount somewhere. I've even heard reports, that it was supposedly -- saw the place where it was kept. Now, I don't know that to be a fact.

So there are people who do believe it still exists. There are people that are in Jerusalem, who would love for that to be revealed. And I would suggest that if that were -- if you think the red of her will cause --

GLENN: Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. I mean, I can't imagine how that could be revealed, and the whole world not taking real significant note.

Whether you believe that the -- what's ever in it. Or that the remnants of the Ten Commandments. Or not.

It doesn't matter.

For the Ark of the Covenant to be revealed and come back.

That would say a lot, about Israel. About Jerusalem. About the times we live in. I mean, pretty much everything. Pretty much everything.

GLENN: Well, it still exists. And this is just my opinion. That's all it is, just an opinion.

I tend to believe that if it does exist, and it's going to be revealed.

Then it probably will coincide with the Messianic age, with the Messiah's return.

And I think that would probably be more likely. But that doesn't mean that there aren't people who would be very, very excited to be -- to have an opportunity. To find it, look for it. And if they could, bring it out.

And that would cause World War III, most likely.

GLENN: It probably would.

It's weird, Bill. When you're over there. You don't understand highway this little patch of land has caused so much turmoil really, in the world.

Why everybody seems to be -- you know, centered on that patch of land. Because it's not very big.

And it's almost like it's a pulse, you can feel it.

That Temple Mount. There's something about that area.

It's God's throne. And you can feel it.

It's amazing. It's amazing.

BILL: Exactly. Exactly. That, what you just said, is prophetic. Prophecy said, he will make Jerusalem burden themselves. And even more -- more so, the Temple Mount. Because that is where God's presence kissed the earth.

And the Ark of the Covenant was basically God's throne on earth.

So, yeah. It's a very contested piece of property, and it will be at the heart of conflict. Yes.

GLENN: Bill Cloud, thank you so much.

If you would like to follow him, you can follow him on his website at BillCloud.org. That's BillCloud.org.