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Dallas Bishop Unites Widows of Slain Baton Rouge Police Officers to Meet Family of Alton Sterling

Tonight, founder and CEO of The Urban Specialists, Bishop Omar Jahwar, will bring together the widows of two Baton Rouge, Louisiana, police officers who were slain by a gunman in the wake of the shooting of Alton Sterling in 2016.

The Course Correction Conversation, hosted by the Urban Specialists, will provide a civil discourse that the group hopes will “bring together violence victims, public figures, lawmakers and the community for an open discussion about widening divides in America” while focusing on reunifying the nation.

Brad Garafola and Montrell Jackson were killed by Gavin Long on July 17, 2016, in a mass shooting designed to purposely target law enforcement officers after civil unrest plagued the state of Louisiana. Tonight, Tonja Garafola, widow of Brad Garafola, and Trenisha Jackson, widow of Montrell Jackson, will meet the family of Sterling for the first time in Dallas on Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Alton was killed in an officer-involved shooting on July 5, 2016,

The women professed the pain both families feel in their hearts and shared with Glenn why it’s important to share their experiences now.

Watch above.

This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.

GLENN: Welcome back to the program. It's Martin Luther King Day. And we wanted to spend some time on something that is happening here in Dallas tonight at Achilles (phonetic). And you're invited to attend.

I want to take -- my family has plans tonight. But I can't think of anything more important than this.

And my kids should witness, because we are all -- all of us are going to face this.

We all have to decide who we are and where we're headed. Bishop Omar Jahwar is with us. He's the founder and CEO of Urban Specialist. And he is doing a course correction conversation tonight. You can find out all about it at Urban Specialist.org.

But he is bringing some people together that don't agree. And are feeling pain on both sides.

And I want to introduce you to a couple of them. Tanesha Jackson. She's the widow of Montrell Jackson. He is the Baton Rouge police officer that was killed a couple of years ago, along with his partner, Brad Garafola.

Did I say that right? No. Can you say that for me?

TONJA: It's Garafola.

GLENN: Garafola, sorry.

And his widow is here. Tonja, welcome to the program. Glad to have you both here.

I'm sure that this is one of the last places you want to be. And, Tanesha, you are really -- you have a heavy mantle to carry because we -- all of us, I think remember your husband's Facebook post, just a couple of days before he was killed. And if I can quote, I'm tired physically and emotionally. Disappointed in some families and friends and officers for some reckless comments. But what's in your heart is in your heart. I still love you because hate takes too much energy. But I definitely won't be looking at you the same. I swear to God, I love this city. But I worshiped if this city loves me. When I'm in uniform, I get nasty, hateful looks. I've experienced so much in my short life. And these last three days have tested me to the core. Look at my actions because they speak loud and clear. These are trying times. But please, don't let hate infect your heart. This city must and will get better. I'm working in these streets. So any protestors, officers, friends, family, or whoever, if you see me and you need a hug or you want to say a prayer, I got you.

How did the two of you not let hate infect your heart after your husbands were taken?

VOICE: Like Montrell said, it takes too much energy. And we're already going through enough grief and pain, that we just didn't need hate adding to that.

VOICE: And I feel as if his Facebook post was so prophetic, and it was just what I needed to survive. And I won't late hate in my heart. And so I've been doing that ever since he has closed his eyes. I have not let hate infected my heart, even when there's times when I get upset and I'm angry. I go back, and I read that post. And I remember what he said. Not let hate infect my heart. And that's what I've been doing. I've been walking like that every day.

GLENN: Since July of 2016, you both -- my wife hates it when I say this to her, but you both look so tired.

VOICE: We do. You get used to sleeping next to somebody for so long, 16 years, and then all of a sudden, it's gone. So...

GLENN: Did your husband have anything similar? Did he feel this coming at all?

VOICE: He did. He didn't have Facebook. However, when the Dallas incident happened, I had -- I had made a wreath to represent the Dallas police. And he had actually sent it out to a mass email to the sheriff's office. People and other law enforcement, and saying that he was praying for them and that he had their six.

GLENN: So we were obviously in Dallas. And my staff was down on the street when the shots rang out. And the protesters were cowering behind trees and -- and cars with us.

And we started talking to each other because of that. And we -- we actually heard each other, I think, for the first time.

What -- what is it that you guys are expecting tonight? Come together and -- why are you here?

What do you hope is going to happen?

VOICE: I want everyone to realize and understand that we all experience pain. And at the end of the day, it's the same pain. And basically, to fix that pain is for us to unite, we need to love on one another. And just basically get us together. Because I know in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, in 2017, the murder rate was through the roof. And there's just so much hate, hate. And at the end of the day, when somebody loses their life, each family member is hurting, and it's pain. And we want our cities to get it together.

GLENN: How about you, Tonja?

TONJA: Absolutely. Hoping to come together and learn something from one another. Even though our pain is the same, but we could always learn something every day. And learning from their pain and them learning from our pain will definitely help.

GLENN: You're going to -- you're going to meet the family of -- of a man who was held down on the ground by police officers and then shot in a horrific video. And they are coming tonight.

And that video is what stirred people up to kill your husbands. What -- have you met the family yet?

VOICE: No.

VOICE: No.

GLENN: What are your thoughts going into it, beforehand?

TONJA: I was a little reserved at first. But it's not -- it's not about my personal feelings. I need to let some of that go. And that's what I'm doing. So I can move forward, so I can heal.

TRENISHA: And I say at the end of the day, those kids have lost their father. And my son has lost his father as well. So I'm looking to see what I can learn from her. And I'm hoping she's looking to see what she can learn from me, because we both are hurting.

GLENN: Pastor.

OMAR: You know, man, I'm just -- see, this is what I'm saying. Listening to them, it makes me say, stop playing. Get serious with things that we take real seriously.

For them to be able to speak on it and having -- you know, this is not a long time. You know, a year ago. And they are here trying to figure out how we can be a part of something that they have experienced personally. It is just -- it's mind-blowing to me.

So I'm hoping that everyone sees them and feels what I feel. A sense of obligation to do what Montrell said. That was strong, and I read it.

And I know that this is the time. I know that this is the moment. And I feel -- you know, again, I'm a pastor. So in my spirit, I hear it. I hear the sound. I know it's time for us to do -- to do this.

And it might be difficult. And it is. And she's right. I've been asking her to do stuff. I know it's been difficult. Because I know it's time. And there are others who can gain from this moment. If we manage our emotions and get this message out right, this could be the start of something.

GLENN: It was a really difficult conversation that we had here in the studios, right after the Dallas shooting.

OMAR: Uh-huh.

GLENN: Because we brought in people who were protesting. And we brought in people from the other side.

And to break through the rhetoric, to break through the stuff that you're reading online -- and I want to say from the people who -- you know, there are some people who want to watch the world burn.

OMAR: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And what we found is a lot of the people that were there were horrified by this and were -- they were frightened for their own families and children, just in a different way. But we had that in common, that we weren't listening to each other.

We weren't -- they weren't hearing our fear. We weren't hearing their fear. And all we were hearing was the rhetoric.

OMAR: Right.

GLENN: And that's really hard.

OMAR: Well, you know, before we took a break, that's what I was about to say about gang members. What I learned from gang members, is the way you took someone's life is you have to dehumanize them.

You have to make them an object. See, the way a Crip kills a Blood is he's a Blood. The way a Blood -- because he's a Crip. And they use all these words. But that takes the idea in all this. That's a man. That's an individual. That's a family member.

She said it right. Those families feel the same way.

And I'm going to tell you something, no matter who it is that passes, no matter how treacherous they were, a person is still shocked and devastated when there is no chance for them to do whatever it is their life trajectory should do. So I try to remind people that humanity is a precious gift. Let's not take it for granted.

And sometimes we have to be reminded that this is real. This is not fake. This is it.

GLENN: We are -- we're at a place now, where we are dehumanizing each other.

OMAR: Uh-huh.

GLENN: It's amazing to me, I was on Facebook last night, or Twitter. And responding to some people who were just filled with, "You're not a person," because I disagree with you.

OMAR: Right.

GLENN: And is there -- is there a turning point? Is there a place to where it's too late?

OMAR: Well, I'm hoping not. I'm hoping not. That's why we're having this close correction. But I believe there is a place where we have so many casualties of that type of behavior, that even when we recover, we will recover at a lower state than we were. You know, there were a time when things can become apocalyptic in the way that we approach it. I mean, you can become the survival of the fittest.

See, whenever you get into survival mode, then you can suspend the rules.

Some people say, I don't need survival -- so it's okay. I do this because -- and that's how -- that's what we have turned -- ratcheted up this noise.

You know, I want people to understand, this is Tonja and it was Brad. I want people to hear, that's Tanesha. That's Montrell. I want them to hear that.

I want you to hear go through your -- I want you to hear that when you hear Andricka. She called him a seedy man. She didn't call him -- you know, when you see the little babies, they are babies. I saw her babies yesterday. He was a big boy too.

He's going to be big.

And, you know, I understand that this is very full circle. Sometimes we can try to shrink it because we want it to be appropriate to the pain we feel. And that's -- that's not what you do. You can't do drive-by analysis on complicated issues. You have to stay there for a moment. I didn't know you went out when the protesters did. I didn't know you had people here.

I did the same thing. We had -- we actually had -- the day after the shooting, we brought the protesters and the police together. And it was a very emotional, very tough conversation.

GLENN: Yeah. We got a lot of heat because we actually interviewed the family of the shooter.

And just listened to them.

And didn't glorify the shooter by any chance. But we really need to listen to each other. We really need to listen to each other.

OMAR: Yeah. Right.

GLENN: Thank you so much for coming. And thank you for being such a good example for your husbands and their memory. And we are truly sorry for your loss.

VOICE: Thank you.

GLENN: God bless you both.

THE GLENN BECK PODCAST

We need REAL jobs in America — Trump should do THIS now!

It is clear we need to create more productive, high-paying jobs for American citizens. But that doesn't mean bringing back the same exact jobs of the past in massive numbers. It means creating and supporting jobs of the present and future that will better the lives of Americans. Glenn Beck and Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts break down exactly what this entails and how President Trump can make it a reality.

Watch Glenn Beck's FULL Interview with Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts HERE

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The most INCREDIBLE World War II story you’ve NEVER HEARD

One of the biggest American World War II cemeteries in Europe is in a small town in the Netherlands, where thousands of Dutch people continue the tradition to this day of “adopting” a fallen US soldier and checking in on his family. “The Monuments Man” author Robert Edsel joins Glenn Beck to tell this incredible story, which he documents in his new book, “Remember Us.”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Robert, welcome back to the program. How are you, sir?

ROBERT: Great to talk to you!

GLENN: It's great to talk to you.

Can you remind me? You were on with us, after Monuments Men. And you talked about this great service that is still going on, where people that -- they were still looking for paintings and pieces of art, that had been taken by the Nazis.

And if I remember right, didn't somebody in our -- our own audience reach out to you, and say, I think we found one of those paintings?

ROBERT: Yes, sir. Absolutely.

The Glenn Beck audience. And Glenn Beck, you yourself deserve a lot of credit.

Because I hadn't walked out of your studio last time. You know, in Dallas at Las Colinas.

Headed back to our office at Monuments Men and Women Foundation office, before someone in my office contacted me and said, we've already had a lead, as a result of your interview with Glenn. And it turned out someone whose aunt had been given two paintings during World War II.

She had worked for the government overseeing Germany, and these two paintings were missing.

We were able to identify who the rightful owner was, and get them back.

So it's a great thing that you performed. And, you know, it's a magnificent conclusion, though obviously a very difficult part of history.

GLENN: What was it like to give that back to the family?

ROBERT: It was a deeply moving experience. We -- the foundation found and returned more than 30 works of art, from paintings to documents, ancient books. Tapestries, to museums. Individual collectors, and so on.

And, you know, when we see, oftentimes, the people just stand there, and they cry.

They don't even know what to say. Because they may have worked 50 or 60 years, trying to find some work of art that's been missing. And they haven't had leads. And to -- to see us standing there, with something that belongs to them.

Not asking for anything in return. Don't charge anybody for doing it. Because we feel like everybody who went through World War II already paid enough.

Words -- words just fail. It's just pure gratitude.

GLENN: I can't wait for you to tell this new story.

Tell me the story of the care takers. The care takers of --

ROBERT: Well, it's a story that found me, just as Monuments did.

I have written about -- in the Monuments Men, I told the story of two Monuments Officers who were killed in combat, one British soldier and one American, Walter Huchthausen. And Huchthausen was killed. He once did a last casualty at war. He was killed in the last month of World War II, and is buried in the American benevolence, American cemetery, in Margraten in the Netherlands. I knew that story, and I had made mention of a young girl who was harbored in September '45, asking for the address of his mother, wanting to write her and tell her, that she walked 5 miles, several times a week, from her house to the American military cemetery. It was called then. To put flowers on his grave. Because her family knew them. And they were grief-stricken to know that they were killed.

And I knew that story too. I mentioned that. And then in 2015, the nephew of Huchthausen wrote me and included a photograph of this elderly lady with this crown of white hair. And he said, here's a photo with Frida, and I couldn't place who this was.

I had no idea who it was. And I realized, my God, this is that 19-year-old girl that is still alive. So I flew to England. She married a British soldier after the war. And I went to meet with her. She started showing me photographs of when the American -- Americans liberated her area of the Netherlands.

And all these American soldiers that they knew.

And she said, you know about the American military cemetery.

She said, have you been there?

And I said yes. And she said, so you know about the great adoption program?

And I said, what? She said, the great adoption program.

I said, I have no idea what you're talking about. So I started doing some research on this. And learned, at the end of World War II, our largest World War II cemetery in Europe, was not Normandy. It was the Netherlands American cemetery, where 17,800 boys and a few women buried at this cemetery by May 1946.

And by that time, every single grave had a Dutch person, a local person, who volunteered to be an adaptor of that brave.

Go out there on the first death date of the soldier, Veterans Day, Memorial Day.

And if they had the contact information for the next of kin, send them a photograph of the grave.
And a letter.

Because they realized, it was okay to adopt the bodies of dead boys.

But where the real need was, was to reach across the ocean, into the American homes and try to assuage the grief of the families.

And they knew some of these boys. And I found it the most heartwarming, uplifting, and certainly unique conclusion to a World War II story that I think has been written.

GLENN: So are they still some of them still doing this?

ROBERT: Not some. In fact, there were about -- in 1940, 748.

American families were given the choice to have their loved ones sent home, or to be left overseas in a military cemetery.

The Army had no idea, how many -- how many families would want their boys sent home, and as a consequence, they couldn't tell how many cemeteries they would need.

We thought almost everybody would want to have the families sent home. But it turned out not to be the case. So about 61 percent came home. About 39 percent stayed in Europe, which was about the numbers from World War I.

Although, the numbers in this area, in the Netherlands were higher.

The -- the graves that are there now.

There are 10,000 boys there. And four women.

8300 graves. 1700 names on the walls of the missing.

Every one of them has an adaptor for 80 years.

All those graves have been adopted, without interruption.

There's a waiting list of almost a thousand people in the Netherlands, to become a doctor. This is a -- not just a --

GLENN: This is --

JASON: A privilege. Because they take their kids out to the cemetery. They turn the cemetery into a classroom. And you go out there. And, yes, there's a somber element. They're instilling in their kids, you're able to think, and say what you want to. Because of the freedom that was given to you, by this American girl or boy. And we don't do that in our country anymore.

GLENN: So this is one of the most incredible stories that I've -- I've ever heard.

And I'm shocked that the world doesn't know this!

Is -- have you -- is there anything like this, anywhere else in the world?

JASON: No. We couldn't even find a comp of any nature.

There are -- that is not to say, the people in Normandy area, don't care about Normandy and other cemeteries. They do, of course. As do the Belgians in other cemeteries.

But there's no place that created an organic great adoption program, during the war, in January 1945!

These people in this area of the Netherlands were so grateful, having been neutral in World War I.

And having not lost their freedom for 100 years!

And they didn't like it!

And when the Americans liberated them in September 44. I'll never forget this woman Freda. This elderly woman I met, looked at me, the first time I interviewed her. I knew her for eight years. The last eight years of her life.

I delivered a eulogy two summers ago. She looked at me, there were the eyes of the 19-year-old. And she said, when I saw that first tank over the hill and I realized, we were saved.

I looked at my dad, and I said, Papi, these American boys come all the way across the ocean to say this. And there were tears in her eyes.

Because they didn't -- they couldn't imagine how we could have moved that equipment across -- across the ocean.

And why we would have cared so much.

So there isn't anything like it.

But January 45, these people in this little town of Margraten.

A mile from the cemetery, organized a meeting of the town leaders. The town who got 1200 people.

And they were trying to find an answer to the question: How do you thank your liberators, when they're no longer alive to thank? And they came up with this idea of this great adoption program, and it's a story that I tell, following the lives of about 12 different American combat soldiers.

Bomber recipients.

Tankers.

Because we don't know that story.

We don't what knows to an American story, when they're killed on the field of battle.

Because it's depressing.

We move on to the next scene in a movie.

Well, I want people to know, you started your program with freedom is not free.

It's ugly.

Let's talk about that. Let's talk about what the cost is.

Let's talk about the stripping line that the body goes through, and the removal of dog tags, one being put in the mouth, if there's still a head. And the other being nailed to the cross, because they don't have time to stencil the names on yet.

Let's talk about that, and let people know, it's not just a Marvel movie. Or a gang war.

This is real. This is painful. And, of course, at the end of the war, when we Americans declare victory, and move on with our lives, there's millions of family members in the United States, whose lives will never be the same.

So it is -- it's still happening today. It's still happening today.

GLENN: The name -- the name of the book is Remember Us.

And take us -- I mean, because that's really kind of the -- the -- the beauty of it.

Take us through the rest of the book, just briefly.

It starts with what?

ROBERT: Well, I follow -- I began what a nice life was in the Netherlands. Until May 10, 1940.

And the Netherlands does not get much attention from World War II, and yet everybody has heard of Battle of the Bulge. And Battle -- those are all within 50 miles of what we're talking about.

They happened around there. Of course, World War II, in western Europe, begins right here in this area. Because the German tanks roll across the border.

So I cover the life of these 12 different Americans. I interviewed all their family members. Some make it through the war. Some don't.

You read the book, you realize who makes it, who doesn't. But their lives converge around this area of the Netherlands. And when post-world War II stories end, with the war being over, remember us kicks into a transcendent moment when the Dutch come up with this idea of this great adoption program. The Americans refuse to provide the names and addresses of the next of kin.

So they're foiled with trying to achieve their ultimate objective. Which is to try to contact all the American families.

And frustrated, there was -- one of the key figures of the book.

A woman who is the mother of 12 children.

Who takes it upon herself. She's a woman of action.

She writes president Truman. And pleads for him to get involved.

When that doesn't work. She gets on the first airplane, she's ever flown on. She leaves her kids behind.

She flies to New York. Lands in LaGuardia Field.

She goes to Washington, and meets the members of Congress. Including a young guy from Texas, named Lyndon Johnson.

Who says, young lady, you need to go to Texas. Because there are so many military bases there.

She flies to our hometown. And lands in Lovefield.

In June of 1946. And is met by two family members. And for five weeks, she lives with American families, that lost somebody during a war.

And to each of them she says, leave your boys with us. When the election comes.

We will watch over them, like our own forever.

And they have done that. Now, today, these 10,000 Dutch doctors only have contact information for 20 percent of the American families.

They couldn't ever get the others.

GLENN: You're kidding me. Where is the list? Do you have a list?

ROBERT: Yeah. The Monuments Men and Women Foundation entered into a joint venture with the Dutch Foundation for Adopting Graves.

Not charging anybody for this. And we have created a website called foreverpromise.org.

And on that website is a list of all 10,000 men and women, more women that are buried at the cemetery, or whose names are on the walls missing.

And it's a searchable database. We're asking people to go and see. Do you have someone you know, or a relative, who is buried there.

And if so, we have a short questionnaire. What's your relationship? Are you aware of this great adoption program? Are you in contact with your adopter? Would you like to be? Would you allow us to share your contact information?

I connected a lady from Richmond, Texas. Saturday night. To her -- to this young Tammy, that's the adopter of her brother.

She's 93 years old.

She was in tears. At the thought when she leaves this world, there will be someone there to watch over her brother.

And that's what we're all about is this connecting.

GLENN: Rob, I have to tell you.

You've really done something with your life. I mean, I know you don't need me to say it.
But what a great job you have. And what a great service you have done for so many years.

Thank you so much.

Please, look this up.

The forever promise project.

You can find it at foreverpromise.org. Foreverpromise.org. Robert Edsel is the author's name. The book is Remember Us. It's a perfect read for this week.

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Ron Paul EXPOSES How the Federal Reserve Keeps Up its Scam!

Former Congressman Ron Paul breaks down how the Federal Reserve operates and how it has become so entrenched in the American economic system. He tells Glenn Beck that the problem is continuing to get worse and offers up his advice on what really needs to happen to begin to fix this situation.

Watch Glenn Beck's FULL Interview with Ron Paul HERE

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Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

Transcript

Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors

GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
(laughter)

GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.


GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.