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Christian attorney who helps rescue kids around the world says this simple thing inspires him

Nonprofit founder and author Bob Goff has a four-letter secret to his success: love.

Goff, whose new book, “Everybody, Always: Becoming Love in a World Full of Setbacks and Difficult People,” will debut next week, joined Glenn in the studio today to talk about “extravagant love” and the need for “courageous people” in a difficult world.

Goff uses his experience as an attorney to bring justice to places where crimes are overlooked by the culture. He shared the story of a little boy who was kidnapped by witch doctors in Uganda, brutally maimed and left for dead – but survived.

With Love Does, the nonprofit he founded in 2003, Goff gets to fight for kids like him. He pursued the death penalty for the witch doctor who nearly killed the little boy and won, sending a message to the rest of the country that kids will be protected.

Relying on a “childlike faith,” Goff has been able to show love in unexpected ways, and his message on today’s show was to encourage everyone to do the same in their own lives.

“Make your next courageous step, whatever that is,” Goff said.

This article provided courtesy of TheBlaze.

GLENN: So here's the thing: I've given up on politics. Because we keep playing this thing over and over and over again. And expecting different outcomes. And it seems to be the same outcome.

And I'm more of a believer in the individual and the individual going out and doing something. And just saying, you know what, I don't care what people tell me what I can and can't do. I don't care if they tell me that it's ridiculous.

Because it's not. If we just decide to do it. I want to introduce you to a guy, Bob Goff, who I think has a similar attitude. Welcome, Bob. How are you is this

BOB: Thanks a million for having me on. Good to be with you.

GLENN: You're an attorney from the San Diego area.

BOB: Yes, 30 years.

GLENN: And you're a best-selling author now. You have a new book out now called Everybody, Always. But your last one was Love Does.

I want you to give the audience, for anybody who doesn't know you, a sense of who you are. And start with -- start with the fact that you have no television in your house. And what happened on September 11th in your house with your children.

BOB: Yeah. Well, I was practicing law. Had -- I can't tell you about me without telling about sweet Maria Goth, my bride of 33 years, and then we have three kids. And this whole idea, living a purposeful life, like we're confronted with so much information, so much tragedy around us, one of the things that I decided to do was I was just going to start with my family. And so we decided to get rid of the television.

And when the -- when September 11th happened, I came home and I told the kids, there's something horrible that happened in the country.

And we sat around this table we have in the kitchen. And I said, if you have five minutes, in front of a leader in the world, what would you say to them? And I love -- my son was seven at the time, he said, you know what, I would invite them over for a sleepover. And that actually makes a lot of sense.

GLENN: It does.

BOB: Put your hand in the goldfish bowl. See if it makes a B. And it works.

So my 9-year-old said, I would ask them what they're hoping in. Because I would say, like, if you find out what people are hoping for, you find out a lot more about them.

And then our 11-year-old, she was the precocious one, she said, I would say this, if they couldn't come over for the sleepover, I would ask this leader if we could come over to their house and do an interview and ask them, what are you hoping for? And get a message of hope to pass on to another leader.

So we downloaded the CIA website. We felt like we were hacking into NORAD. We got the name of every leader in every country, figured out their addresses, and wrote them.

And we got a post office box. Because we didn't want Ahmadinejad to know where we went. (laughter)

And so we sent all these letters. And after school every day, we would go over. And so they would get the mail out. The kids would be in the backseat. They would ask me about these countries.

I'm like, I don't know. That's east of here apparently, but we always got the most pleasant notes. It was Tony Blair at the time. He said, like a jolly good show. Like forget it. But jolly good show.

GLENN: Right.

BOB: But then they got the leader of Bulgaria. He wrote to them. And he said, if you'll come to the palace in Sophia, I'll give you your interview.

Then the prime minister of Switzerland said, if you come to Bern, I'll give you your interview. Then the president of Israel said, if you'll come to Jerusalem, I'll give you -- we got 19 yeses. So I pulled the kids out of school. Their teachers had a cow. I'm like, sue me.

So there's something just really beautiful about that. And I love that it's this idea of a child-like faith. That idea -- look to your kids. You want to do something awesome for the world, plug into your family.

GLENN: Because you would -- as an adult -- and the older you get, the secret to staying young -- I think that's what Jesus meant when he said, come to me as a child.

BOB: Oh, bingo. Totally.

GLENN: You still believe. You haven't been worn down by the world to say, it won't work. It won't work.

BOB: Yeah. And if you've been convinced that it won't work, get a puppy. Literally, just --

GLENN: No, because then I'm convinced potty training doesn't work.

BOB: Yes. I worked it right in the middle of that. The only thing our dog has missed is the lawn so far.

But one of the things is that, let the children kind of lead us. And we're seeing that in society. We're seeing that over and over. Go do that with your family. So we went.

And there's this one country. They had just been involved in all kinds of stuff.

And the leader walks in. And he said, children, you know, I'm more nervous meeting with you, than if I was meeting with the president of the United States right now. And then he said, and when I get nervous, I get hungry. And he claps his hand. And all these servants come in with jars of candy and ice cream. It's just really beautiful.

There's something about this idea of leading with love. And it takes a child-like faith to get there. Not childish.

Because most of us guys have childish nailed. But child-like, to just remain hopeful, even in the face of overwhelming difficulties.

GLENN: One of the places you went to was Uganda, right?

BOB: Yeah.

GLENN: And we've done some stuff? Uganda. Because there's still sacrifices. Human sacrifices in Uganda with these witch doctors. And they kidnap children and they sacrifice them. And it's horrifying. And horrifying. And then you stop it in one place, and then it pops up in another place.

Because it's still part of their culture. But you being an attorney, you found that for a long time, there wasn't a law. But then like three years before you got there, they had passed a law to stop all this, but nobody was enforcing it.

Is that right?

BOB: Yeah, that's it. Because people were afraid. The judges were afraid. Everybody was afraid.

But it just takes courageous people to make big change. That idea to just -- and we don't measure. God doesn't compare our leaps. I would say for everybody listening, make your next courageous step. Whatever that is.

For me, I was a lawyer. Knew how to try cases. The problem with me, there's always child sacrifice. There's always a victim, but they're always dead. And it all changes.

A couple years ago, a little boy -- we'll just say his name is Charlie. He was walking home from school and gets abducted by the leader of all of these witch doctors.

And they -- they try to do this sacrifice. They cut off all his private parts and leave him for dead. But the kid doesn't die. So for the first time, we had a victim survived. We got the witch doctor.

So I asked, could we try Uganda's first death penalty case. And they said, you will never get a judge who will touch that. But then we found a judge. And we tried the case. And the word of this conviction went to 41 million people. And here was the message: You touch a kid. It's over.

There's something beautiful about that idea of like, there's no love without justice. But there's also no justice without love.

So after this conviction happens, the boy is all torn up. This attack happens with a machete. A doctor in Los Angeles, here's what happened. And he calls me up at home. He said, Bob, I heard what happened with this little kid, and I can fix him.

And I'm like, buddy, you didn't hear what got cut off, you can't fix that. And he's like, I'm the chief of surgery in Cedar-Sinai Medical Center. I can fix him.

And I said, what? So I drive up to Los Angeles. He takes out a piece of paper and he starts drawing out what he's going to do, which is way too much information.

And I asked him -- if they find that at the TSA, I'm going to jail.

And I said, how much would that cost? And he said, it would be staggering. But I'll do it for nothing. I'm like, I can afford nothing.

So I fly back to Uganda. We find the little boy in the bush. And my first stop is court, and I become his legal guardian. And we're flying back for this operation. And I get off the plane in London. And he's holding -- and he said, Father, can we just walk the rest of the way? I'm like, oh, buddy.

And I open up my laptop to see if there's any messages. This is the time when Obama is in office. And there's a message that says, White House. And the message is really short, it just says, we'd like to meet, Charlie. I thought it was some of my friends, like you guys, that would just pull a fast one.

And it's legit. And this kid that was standing in the bush in Uganda is now standing in the Oval Office. And I think, why does this happen? And here's the deal: It's that child like faith. And no matter what age you are, you can actually start thinking about what might be possible.

And I just want to continue to live into that. Even against all of the horrific things going on, to remain hopeful and engaged. Not just to put smiley faces on it. But, what's my next step? What's my next leap?

GLENN: So here's the thing that I think of all the time: If I have cancer -- for instance, go to a doctor over and over and over again. Something is wrong, but the doctors can't find it. If that's happened to you, you get to a point to where, I don't care if it's cancer. I just want to know, you know.

And I think there is hope, when -- when there is knowledge that there is something you can do, that -- whether it works or not. Is unknown.

But once you know -- I have no hope in a doctor who says, oh, you know, it's just a little spot on your lawn. And, you know, it's nothing. And he knows it's cancer. Don't tell me that. I'm hopeless.

Tell me it's cancer, and I can find hope.

We have to -- we have to not just be putting smiley faces on things and going, oh, no, it's not so bad. It is. It's bad. It's bad.

But now, take us from, it's bad, to how to find that hopeful place, when we come back.

Name of the book is Everybody, Always, by Bob Goff. G-O-F-F. Bob Goff. We continue in just a second.

GLENN: We're with Bob Goff. Amazing man.

Not a -- you know, not a Tony Robbins kind of guy who makes his living being a motivational speaker, but is truly motivational. And everybody that I've ever seen him in. Because it's -- he's infectious. Courage is contagious, and so is hope.

And Bob just made the point that we need to find hope. So how do you do that? How do you find real hope? In a sea of despair.

BOB: Yeah. No simple answer for anything. But the first thing that strung to my mind is, it's a life of engagement. And an idea of engaging the people around you. Engaging the issues around you.

But not necessarily with the petition, but engage it with everything that you've got, with your love, with your hope, with your energy. Find these things.

We were talking about a wrong that was done in Uganda. Engage it.

If you're good as a lawyer, go do a bunch of that. If you're good at loving people, go do a bunch of that. I don't want people to meet just my opinions, I want them to actually meet me. And the way to meet me is to be curious about them.

GLENN: So you -- when you sat down, I told you, you passed a test that almost no one passes. I think there's maybe been two people. And we've had great people in a career of 40 years. I've had great people around that I've interviewed.

I think -- I could honestly say two. Maybe there's been five, that have walked into the room, said, hello, to me and then said hello to Stu or the other people on the air.

But then the important thing, looked at the people who are holding the camera, doing the makeup, introducing yourself, looking them in the eye, and engaging with them. That rarely happens. Rarely.

It's sad. But to me, it's a test of, who are you really? And -- and you pass that. And from what I understand, you were out in the greenroom and you were out in the hallway and you were having conversations. You came in here and you started looking around. You're very observant. Which I think kind of passes all of us by, sometimes. We just kind of -- we just engage in the moment and do what we have to do with that person.

BOB: Yeah. I think each of us are looking for these same things in our life, like love and purpose and connection. And then authentic relationships. We just start skipping across the disk, we just turn our life into a bunch of transactions. And I just don't want to be -- I'm not a touchy-feely guy. I'm a trial lawyer.

GLENN: You don't seem like a trial lawyer.

BOB: I'm the only guy trying a 100-million-dollar case with a Mickey Mouse watch.

But I'll tell you, it will be the third month of the trial. And somebody in the box will say, Mickey Mouse watch. I'll be like, I just want -- but this whole idea, this overarching idea that we'll be known for our opinions, but remembered for our love. So I think each of us need to ask, what are we going to be remembered for?

GLENN: I want to -- I could spend a day with you.

But I want to come back here in a second, and show me how you remain optimistic, as a trial lawyer. I can't think of a worst job. I can't think of a worst job.

BOB: Yeah.

GLENN: You're surrounded by dirtbags, lying, the system, and yet you hold it. So give me some real life examples.

BOB: Well, I would say --

GLENN: Wait. Wait. When we come back.

GLENN: Welcome back. We're talking to an incredible guy. I could spend the day with. And he's just invited me to TP some houses for the rest of the day. His name is Bob Goth, the author of Everybody, Always.

And one of the happier guys that I think I've ever met. And you're a trial attorney! And I want to get into that. But we're going to run out of time. So let's start off with one of your philosophies, one of the things that you take away from the Jesus story. And that is, tell no one.

BOB: Yes. I love that big moment. It's this Simon Peter -- you know, Jesus says, who am I? And some say you are a teacher. And actually, he was an awesome teacher. Some say you're a prophet. And he was actually an awesome prophet. And then Simon Peter says, you're God.

And Jesus said, you nailed it. But I love that he said flesh and blood doesn't reveal that to you, but the spirit. And we have a lot of people where faith is important to them. And they're trying to, like, do the spirit's work. Like, just, they're trying to tell everybody what Jesus is.

Two verses later, he says, tell no one.

I love that. I don't think it's supposed to be a secret. I think he means, show them, don't tell them.

So show people what -- we'll know what we believe, when everybody sees what we do. I don't care when somebody says, I got a lot of things I believe. But see what I do. See what you do. You're doing this, you're just spreading a lot of hope for people.

GLENN: So you are -- so -- but do you set out to -- you know, another Jesus thing, and it kind of reminds me of you, pay no attention to what's going to happen tomorrow. Don't worry about tomorrow. Don't worry about where you're going to lay your head. Don't worry about any of it. Just go and do it. That seems to be your mantra.

BOB: Exactly. So know why you're doing what you're doing. So, for instance, I'm married. Got three kids. Two of them -- two of those are married. And I want to be a grandpa. Like, what more in the worst thing in the whole -- I just want that so bad.

GLENN: It's great.

BOB: I'm expecting. They're not expecting. I'm expecting every day.

My son actually with his wife went to Hawaii. He said it rained all week. I'm like, yes!

GLENN: Good.

BOB: More wine to the cabana.

(laughter)

BOB: So one of the things, if you know why you're doing what you're doing -- and I just want to be -- we were talking about being available. So I put my cell phone number in the back of a couple million books. And I get 100 calls a day. I can't get --

STU: It is legitimately the last sentence -- of the book, it talks about, if you ever want to talk about any of the ideas, my phone number is, give me a call sometime, if I can be helpful.

BOB: Isn't that awesome?

GLENN: It's crazy.

BOB: People don't follow vision. They follow availability. And I'm never the smartest guy, particularly right now, but I can be the most available guy in the room.

And so if you know why you're doing what you're doing.

GLENN: So how -- how do you do that?

BOB: I just get constantly interrupted. Like literally just constantly -- Jesus was constantly interrupting. People are tugging on his shirt, calling his name from trees. Just -- just live a life with constant interruptions.

And what it reminds me over and over again, is not to be efficient in the way that I love people, but to be extravagant. That was one of the hallmarks.

GLENN: What does that mean?

BOB: Just not giving people a little bit, just give them your best.

I got -- we took all the money from Loved Does and just gave it all away. And so we've been going around, building schools in countries. Which cracks me up, because my worst subject in school was school.

But we're actually pretty good at starting them. So we've got one in Uganda. One in Iraq. One in Somalia. We've got one going into a country that doesn't do that. That's in two weeks. What could possibly go wrong?

(laughter)

I'll check back in with you in three.

So one of the whole ideas is to fail trying. Don't fail watching anymore. Fail trying. So if you see something, don't just identify with that. But just say, what's my piece in that?

GLENN: We had guys yesterday, they were up in Indianapolis. And they had potholes in their town.

And they were reading -- you know, they knew how bad it was. And they were reading in the newspaper, that the state couldn't afford it. The city couldn't afford it. It was $700 billion or whatever to fix all the potholes. So they went to -- they took 50 bucks. They went to the hardware store. They bought asphalt. And they just started fixing potholes.

BOB: Done.

GLENN: Right. And what is amazing about this is so far the city knows about it and hasn't stopped them. I would think, immediately, oh, you're -- they're going to come -- they just didn't stop. They just went out and did it. But they're in their 20s too. They haven't lived a life of, don't do that.

BOB: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. What if the -- as you're constantly thinking about, what do you want to be remembered for? And I just want to be remembered for someone who is engaged. And here's the crazy part, like God isn't dazzled when you go across an ocean. He's wowed when you go across the street. This idea of loving your neighbor. I don't think it's just a metaphor for something else. I think it actually means love your neighbor.

We've got a mailman on our block. He's lousy at it. He's not a detail guy.

So we get everybody else -- actually, one of my neighbors was getting audited. I had to bring it over. Like, stinks to be you.

So Art, after 20 long years finally said he was going to retire. I'm like, praise the Lord.

(laughter)

And so we decided to make him the grand marshal of our parade. We have a parade on our block. Our block is only ten houses long on each side. And so 800 people showed up to see Art to let him know, just how much they loved him, even though he was a lousy mailman. Everybody in the whole community knew it. We got a convertible. We filled it full of envelopes. We just said, Art, throw them in the air. Do what you do every day.

STU: That's a great insult right there.

BOB: And there was such an outpouring of love towards this guy.

He called me up the next day and he said, Bob, I'm coming out of retirement. I'm like, no!

But what will happen, when people know that they're loved, when they actually know they're respected, this idea of being ready to make a defense for the hope that's within you, it doesn't mean to point bony fingers at people. They forget the last sentence. It says, with gentleness and respect.

And if we could just treat people with gentleness and respect, knowing that you've got beautiful things in your life. And God might be doing something different in your life than my life.

Last Saturday, there was a wedding planner that was praying for sunshine. And there was a farmer praying for rain. Right?

And it's just to assume that God is up to different things in other people's lives, and be a little more patient with them as we get there.

But to do the things, we can hope for a lot of things, but hope on the move. People say like love is a verb. I think hope is. I don't know about my grammar. But I'll tell you, hope on the move is unstoppable.

That's what your -- your guys were doing with the potholes. They're saying, that's hope on the move. I'm not waiting for permission. Your life is your permission.

Somebody like birthed you and said, go. Now go do beautiful, immense things, but do it with gentleness and respect. I can try death penalty cases against witch doctors, but that whole idea of loving your neighbor and loving the people, love your enemy. Right?

So after the trial, I started meeting with witch doctors. I sent out word on the bush radio that the consul general for Uganda is here, and I command every witch doctor to meet with me. Glenn, they came. I met with a thousand witch doctors. And they are creepy.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

BOB: They make dolls that look like me and stick stuff into them. No wonder I always have a headache.

So I asked these guys, what do you need? And they said, we don't know how to read or write.

So get this, I started a witch doctor school. We go teach them how to be witch doctors. They already know.

We teach them how to read and write. And the only books we have in witch doctor school are the Bible and Love Does. So this whole idea -- you should see our graduation ceremonies. I mean, they're awesome.

GLENN: Oh, I bet. It's unique.

BOB: Yeah, so I grabbed each of these witch doctors by the face, and I give them a kiss on the forehead. I want be every witch doctor's first kiss. And I just whisper to them, like, do good. Live your life in a way -- they're already the leaders in the community. Live a life in a way that gives great honor and respect to people.

GLENN: Okay. So I just want to take this back, as I understand this story, here's a guy I introduced to you 40 minutes ago. And it started at his table with his children on September 11th. They wrote a letter.

He first asked, what would you say to the world leaders? They respond. Most people would stop there. He said, let's write. And let's invite them to come here. Or we'll go there and interview them and find out what they hope for.

And 20 -- no, 19 of them said yes. Most people would go, okay. Well, we're not going to go -- they went to all 19?

BOB: Yeah.

GLENN: Went to all 19. Interviewed. While he was in Uganda. Finds problems. He's an attorney, he says, well, maybe I can just help. He starts to help. They invite you to be the -- they invite you, you think to be council. Meaning they wanted you to be a counselor and an attorney there. But you're actually an ambassador. Not of -- wait. You're not the ambassador from the United States to Uganda. You're the Uganda an ambassador to America, right?

BOB: The consul, yes.

GLENN: Consul.

So now you're educating witch doctors and teaching them how to do good.

That's a remarkable 15 years.

BOB: What if you just lived a life engaged. It wouldn't be any different than other people. Like, this whole idea of living an engaged life. We're not graded on a curve. Just engaged with the people around you, engage the people you love.

But engage them with love. Like, engage them with that child-like faith. And to see what would happen -- we would finish each interview with these world leaders. Like, what do you bring to some of these guys? Some places the chocolate would melt.

And so the kids brought the key to our front door. And they gave it to them in a little box. And they said, you know, we came over to your house. If you ever want to come to our house, here's the key to your front door. And you know what, somebody -- I'm going to tell you who, but they emailed from the embassy to our kids. Because they don't have my email address. It's the kids doing this. And they said, we'd like to use our key. And they did.

GLENN: Oh, you're kidding me.

BOB: Just engage people. See what will happen. Do a cannonball. Don't put your toe in the water. Grab your knees. And then just see what will happen. Start with your family. Let these concentric rings go out. If faith is a big deal, do it because faith is a big deal for you.

But don't try to talk everybody into it. God will let people know that he's around because he's there.

Like, it will just continue to reveal himself. And not in mystical ways.

It will just be by meeting loving people. So I want to be that guy. And I'm trying. And I'm not quite there. I always get my first call. It's always 5:00 in the morning from some dude in Atlanta. Because it's 8:00 in the morning there, and it's 5:00 in San Diego. I got my last call at midnight from two witch doctors in witch doctor school.

And they said, a little boy has been abducted. And this new witch doctor has taken them into the bush for a child sacrifice, but we know where he is. Should we go get the kid?

And I'm standing on my bed in my boxers, yelling into the phone, get the kid! And four hours later, I get a text message from these two guys that used to be bad guys, and they said, we've rescued the child, he's with his mother. And the last two words of the text message, Love Does.

I've spent my whole life avoiding the people Jesus spent his whole life engaging. And I've just said, I'm not going to avoid people anymore. I'm going to engage the people who creep me out. I'm not going to just avoid them, but I'm not going to engage them --

STU: Is that what this interview is about?

BOB: Oh, you want to know something great? The cover of Everybody, Always looks like a bunch of balloons. I flew over to Uganda after -- you know what it's like when you get a book cover, and they send all these samples. They all look hokey.

So I flew over Uganda. I got the witch doctors to make the cover out of their fingerprints.

(laughter)

GLENN: Wow. Wow.

BOB: But engage people. Engage people. They're like, what's this about? Actually, I'm going to write a book about loving people and loving the people that creep you out. And you guys used to creep me out a lot. You still creep a lot of people out. But I'm learning from you. You're actually teaching me more about love. Because I'm learning about you and your life. And I see who you're becoming. Not who you used to be. And it's starting to change me. They've actually taught me. I don't know if I've taught them anything. They're teaching me a ton.

GLENN: I have to tell you, Bob, and I don't know if you take this as a compliment or not. But I have worked -- but I've been around and worked with some of the biggest spiritual leaders of multiple faiths in the last 20 years.

And have met the worst and the best. Billy Graham. One of the best. I won't list some of the worst.

You may be the best preacher I've ever met. And it's not because you're preaching. It's because you're doing it. And that's the secret.

If we just stop preaching to each other and we stop trying to get each other baptized or trying to fix everybody's life by selling you X, Y, or Z, just live it yourself, it -- people change. People change.

BOB: You know why you're doing what you're doing.

I dressed up to come visit with you by taking off my baseball cap. I wear this Boston Red Sox hat, not because I'm a Red Sox fan. I haven't even gone to a baseball fan.

But one of the reasons I wear it, my neighbor across the street was a big Red Sox fan. And she was going to be with Jesus by the end of the week. So we made a deal. I said, I will wear your Red Sox hat for the rest of my life and represent the Sox here, but every time Jesus walks by you, you need to mention my name.

(laughter)

That's the first thing if I hear, I knew you not, I'm like, Carol!

So if you know why you're doing what you're doing, why you're engaging people in conversation, why you're doing it, it will give a lot of clarity to your life.

GLENN: You're amazing. Thank you so much.

BOB: Oh, thanks so much for having me and for making me feel so welcome and for spreading a lot of joy and hope to people.

GLENN: You bet. Thank you. Bob Goff. Everybody, Always. If that doesn't sell everyone in this audience on buying this book, I don't know what would.

Boy, one of my favorite interviews of all time. Thank you, Bob.

BOB: Good being with you, thank you.

GLENN: You bet.

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The Nord Stream pipeline SABOTAGE puts us ALL AT RISK

Was the Nord Stream explosion sabotage? And who was behind the attack? Was it Russia? Ukraine? Or Germany? No matter who was behind the move, Glenn explains, it puts us ALL at risk. Because destroying civilian infrastructure now is 'on the table' for Vladimir Putin, and this may give him enough reason to 'take his gloves off.' The stakes here are real, Glenn says: 'Water, electricity, oil, pipelines...ALL of our infrastructure is at risk.'

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GLENN: Okay. So I -- I am not sure, because of the hurricane, I can't get a -- a good grip on how America is feeling about this Nord Stream bombing. But that's what it was. We know that this was sabotage.

There's no natural explanation for it. And it would have somebody diving about 200 -- 220. 230 feet, below the surface. That is not something that your average diver can do. And this is encased in concrete.

So this is blowing up the concrete and getting to the pipeline, to blow that up. This is -- I mean, it's not -- you know, it's not going to the moon. But it is, you know, rather difficult to do.

So who did it? This is an explanation that it is so important for you to understand. This is now a non-military key infrastructure, that has been destroyed.

If Russia thinks we did it, they've already said, nukes are now on the table. That gives us a green light to use nukes. Forget about nukes for a second. Because if that happens, we all have 18 minutes. I'm going to the bar. I'm going out with a drink in my hand. But you've got 18 minutes. Family, meet me at the bar.

My wife would probably already be there. I've been there for months. Living with you.

Anyway, so forget about nukes for just a second. And let's talk about, what other things can Russia do.

This is non-military key infrastructure. Outside of the borders of Ukraine.

To date, as far as we know, combat targets were either in Ukraine, or were military targets, hit inside of Russia by Ukrainian Air Force or Special Forces. But the target menu, now includes key civilian infrastructure: Electricity, water utilities, energy production.

That makes Russia more dangerous than ever. And that would be true, no matter who carried out the attack.

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MIDTERM UPDATE: What Republicans must do to WIN BACK the Senate

The midterms are just one month away, and the stakes for our republic have never been higher. If Democrats keep their current control of both the House of Representatives AND the Senate, America may never been the same. In this clip, Glenn and Stu run through the latest numbers: The races currently leaning left, those leaning right, and the ones that are becoming closer each day. These are the races Republicans MUST win if they want to take back control…

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GLENN: Average income lost under Joe Biden is $4,200. Gas prices have risen now, this is the sixth day in a row. And numbers are falling for the Democrats. But is it showing up at the polls yet?


STU: Yeah. Yeah. I think -- I just some of the early Democratic momentum pitch, that we have heard has started to fade quite a bit. We went through this on Stu Does America on Friday. We did our first sort of chalkboard magnet. All the states break down the Senate look. So give you a quick picture of this. The lay of the land, before any elections even start is 36 Democrats and 29 Republicans. That's because all the seats aren't up for election. So they start with a nice lead here already. In the likely category, probably not going to change. There's at least eight races there for the Democrats. There are 13 races on the Republican side, that are likely not really going to be all that close or competitive. Which brings you to 44-42. Some leaner races: Leaning Democrat right now, we have Colorado and Washington, which are two states that are -- the polling is favoring Democrats by a decent amount. You know, Republicans really like their candidate in Washington, for example. So there's some reason to watch those races. Though, they're favoring Democrats. Also, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, we have in the leaning Democrat. Now, Pennsylvania as we've covered is completely insane.

If that's the way they go, they have a man who can't speak, as their candidate. But still polling showing them five points or more up in most of these polls.

New Hampshire just finished the primary. Right now, Maggie Hassan seems to have about an eight-point lead in that race.

Though, that one I can see tightening. It's been tighter in races before the primary, so we'll see how that goes.

Leaning Republican, five races there. A couple of just sort of weird races there. Which is Alaska. Alaska has the situation with the rank choice voting, going on. But it's really Republican versus Republican there. But then again, one of the Republicans is Lisa Murkowski. So do you count that? I don't even know.

GLENN: Yeah, Democrat.

STU: Right.

GLENN: But how is she performing in the polls?

Because the others dropped out, to kind of coalesce around Murkowski's --

STU: I believe Murkowski gets beaten when it actually occurs.

The fact that this woman ran a write-in campaign from the Senate and won. She won, a write-in campaign for the Senate.

The name goes a long way in Alaska. Murkowski. It's almost all Democrats voting for her.
I mean, that has really become the Democrats and moderates sort of going that way, where Republicans are going towards the Trump-favored candidate there in Alaska. So you'll get a Republican out of Alaska and for the Senate. It just depends on if it's Murkowski or not. I mean, she's one of the weakest Republicans you can find. Another weird one, we've talked about a lot, is Utah, with Mike Lee. He's running in a race against an independent. There have been some close polls in this race.

GLENN: I don't believe it.

STU: I don't believe it. I still this is a strong Republican scene. I think Lee will win there. It's closer than I think Mike wants.

GLENN: Mike always -- even when he's not running for reelection. He's like, you know, I have to listen to the people, because the people they can throw me out of office at any time.

STU: Yeah. Sure.

GLENN: And I think there's a part of Mike that, you know, wouldn't mind it, if it's okay, it's over. Go make money. Go do something with your life.

STU: That's got to be the feeling of a lot of people.

GLENN: Yeah, I think so. But he takes it seriously.

STU: Oh, yeah, and look, he should. This is a new tactic from the Democrats. This is what they're rewarding in Utah, if you vote for Evan McMullin.

It's a new tactic. Instead of just running a Democrat, they run a guy who says he isn't a Democrat, but just will vote like the Democrats every time. You can have that if you want. Normally that's done under the D banner. It's now done under the I banner.

GLENN: And they didn't run.

STU: The Democrats dropped out of the race completely, and just are letting everyone vote for --

GLENN: It's crazy. It's crazy. And you will see this in every election, if it works this time.

STU: Yes. Especially in deep red states. They will try to knock off Republicans, by running fake independents in this case.

Missouri is out there as well. Eric Schmidt has a pretty solid size of a lead, he should win there.

Florida is closer than I think it should be with Marco Rubio.

You know, oddly, he's -- most of the polls only have him up four or five points.

GLENN: You're kidding me!

STU: Yeah. And this isn't a race where obviously DeSantis is likely going to win handily. Val Demings is the candidate in Florida, going against Rubio, who was mentioned as a VP candidate for Biden. Somebody thought highly of her, on the Democratic side.

GLENN: She has brain damage?

STU: No, I don't know.

GLENN: She'll never have a leadership role.

STU: And Ohio, we talked to JD Vance last week. He's opened up a lead in most of the polling there. I think he'll win that race. But still too close to say it's a likely race by any means. So it's five. So, basically, what you have there is 48 Democrats. Forty-seven Republicans. If you include the lienors. And five toss ups for the Republicans to take advantage control of the Senate, they would need to win four of these five races. Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Georgia. Their best hope right now, probably North Carolina, where they are relatively consistent, but small lead there.

Nevada seems to be pretty much toss-up. Though Adam Laxalt seems to be moving ahead slightly there. Ron Johnson has had good polls in Wisconsin, lately.

It looks like he might be a slight favorite there. Arizona has narrowed, though still favors the Democrats.

Although, it's hard for me to understand the polling there. You see polling where Blake Masters is down by seven or eight points. And Kari Lake, who is supposed to be the most extreme, crazy person in the world, which she's not. We've had her on the air. She's running for governor. With the same voters, and they're saying, she's only down by one. So it's hard for me to understand how Masters would be down eight, and Lake would be down only one.

GLENN: Name recognition.

STU: And she might be. She might just be a really good candidate, and Herschel Walker in Georgia well. The polling has bounced back and forth. Both very close. Really a pure toss-up race at this point.

GLENN: Oh, jeez. For the love of Pete, get everyone you know. Dig up your father, your mother. Bring them out. I mean, let them air out a little bit.

STU: Democrats do it all the time.

GLENN: Yeah. What's the problem with that? Make sure that everyone goes out and votes.

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Who is controlling THESE mentally incapacitated Democrats?!

Joe Biden — whether due to illness or age — seems to be mentally incapacitated which, according to Merriam-Webster, means ‘an absence of mental capacity.’ But it’s not just Joe. In fact, Stu argues that the mental abilities of current Senate candidate John Fetterman may be even worse. Plus, Kamala Harris can barely string together a cohesive thought, and Nancy Pelosi incoherently babbles as well. This leads Glenn to a very important question: With these mentally incapacitated Democrats, WHO THEN IS RUNNING AND CONTROLLING THE PARTY?!

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GLENN: All right. So let's take a look at the upcoming elections. How are things shaping up in the Senate, Stu?

STU: Very, very closely, Glenn. Very, very close races. A lot of toss-up states. A lot of very tight back and forth.

GLENN: Can we start with Fetterman, please?

STU: Yes.

GLENN: Okay. Is it still really, really points? Is he still like three points ahead, or five points ahead?

STU: Yeah. Yeah.

GLENN: How is that possible?

STU: Thank you. Thank you.

GLENN: How is that possible? Sara, do you have that clip?

VOICE: The Eagles are so much better than the Eagles. Oh, my gosh. This guy can't function. Now, look, I mean, I'm wondering, who is really running the show? Who is running the Democratic Party?

Because you have Joe Biden who is -- I mean, he's there occasionally. You know what I mean? He's mentally there, occasionally. Other times, no idea.

Kamala Harris, no. She's not --

STU: She just blathers on and says nothing. We have an entire thing at Veepthoughts.com, of all her idiocy. She continually tries to talk, but can't say anything.

GLENN: Right. But Feinstein, gone.

STU: They've basically admitted, she isn't even doing the job anymore. Nancy Pelosi is hammered, half the time, allegedly. When she's making any speech.

GLENN: Hammered. Either that, or she just doesn't know what he's talking about. But I think it's hammered.

STU: And Fetterman is -- we constantly beat on Joe Biden's ability to get through speeches. He's remarkably better than John Fetterman at this, right now. John Fetterman can't speak. This is a deliberative body.

GLENN: So can I ask you a question?

And no offense meant here, by people, who are in this. But I don't want a special ed. class running my country. And that's pretty much what we have right now in the party right now. People who can no longer think clearly, for one reason or another.

STU: Yeah. They're all different reasons.

GLENN: But you can't run a country like this. You can't run a country like this.

STU: We've seen what happens when you try it. Right?

We've seen the last two years. We've seen the results of what happens when you attempt to do it this way. It doesn't work.

GLENN: And you have to ask yourself. Who is making the policies? Who is making the policies? I mean, I'm asking that rhetorically.

STU: The Taiwan policies are a good example of this. Who is making the Taiwan policy? Joe Biden keeps coming out and saying, over and over again, that we are -- our troops are going to go defend Taiwan if China attacks it. That's Joe Biden's policy. And then five minutes later. The White House and five other organizations, within our government, come out and say, that's not actually our policy. We swear. We swear. Then Joe Biden comes out and does another interview and says it again, and then he does it again and again. He's done it four or five times.

GLENN: Well, Lindsey -- this Lindsey Graham abortion bill, which we will get into some other day. This Lindsey Graham abortion bill, Joe Biden came out and said, it's stricter than my church's --

STU: No. The Catholic Church --

GLENN: How can that be stricter than the -- Catholic Church is no abortion? How can you be stricter? Death for abortion?

Well, I mean, how could it be stricter than that?

STU: No.

GLENN: That's not.

STU: No. This is just craziness. I mean, they're trying everything they can to throw you off of the scent of what you should actually be voting for.

GLENN: No. They are trying -- they're not trying -- they are lying to you. That's all that this is. They are lying to you. Stricter? It's a 15-week ban on abortion. It's after 15 weeks, you can't have abortions. That's more lenient than France! Okay. France has 13 weeks. This has 15. So to get people to vote for these clowns, they just have to lie to you.

How many times do they have to lie to you, before you wake up?

Some countries, it doesn't -- they never wake up.

GLENN: You mention the abortion policy. Let me just at least -- because this is a big election issue here.

There's a big story that's happening in Arizona right now. Which is one of the -- the biggest states, when it comes to the Senate. And, of course, the governor as well in Arizona. And there's a law from 1864, I think it was, that passed. That basically said no abortions for any reasons. Except, I think there's the life of the mother exception. And it can be penalized with something --

GLENN: Whipping. Horsewhipping.

The Border Patrol comes and whips you with your horses. While she's still laying in bed.

STU: And like, I think it's three to five years in prison, for someone who facilitates one of these abortions. Now, of course we got into the Roe vs. Wade era. This law was still in the books. Never got repealed. They never did anything about it. Now we're on the other side of it. It's Roe vs. Wade gets overturned. And they about it to -- they run it through the courts. And the courts say, yeah. This is still law. If you want to change a law, you can change a law. But currently, this is the law of the land. I must apply it. That's how the law works. You can repeal a law opinion you can pass a new law that overrides that law. Now, since then, Arizona has tried to go through with a 15-week ban. But as of right now, it looks like the law of the land is still this 1864 law.

GLENN: It can't be 1864. I don't think Arizona was a state --

STU: It was not a state when this was passed. It was a territorial.

GLENN: Territorial. Okay. So we go back to literally the Cowboy and Indian times.

STU: So -- but this is the law, and this is the way the law works.

GLENN: And you will not tie your horse up on the door of my saloon either.

STU: Now, of course, what we're talking about, is you'll have to go to California or somewhere else nearby, if you want to get your abortion, if you needed an abortion. If this law were to stay in place. So this is a back and forth. The left is trying so hard to make abortion the entire election here. Because, of course, they see this as -- some of the polling shows that the majority of people are against the Supreme Court decision, blah, blah, blah, blah. They only have a couple of issues here, they can run on. One is, they think they can run on Donald Trump, because half the country doesn't like him. They can run on abortion. That's all about all they have, right?

So they're trying to make it seem like. Now, no one will lock down when the Democrats have any lines on abortion. They never have to express their lines on it. Only Republicans have to come up with their lines on abortion. Democrats never have to say, they want it all the way to birth. Only Peter Doocy is the one who asks them about it.

GLENN: Because they don't have a line. It's not up to birth. It's not up to birth.

STU: No. Their opinions are far more unpopular than the Republican positions on this. But the media is assisting them on this.

And so there's a slew of Republicans, that are trying to find this middle ground, quote, unquote.

PAT: Right.

GLENN: Lindsey Graham being one of them. Hey, let's pass a 15-week abortion ban. I'm sorry. Did we just spend the last 50 years, fighting over Roe vs. Wade so we could eliminate 8 percent of abortions. Is that what we did? I want to make sure I understand, this whole Roe vs. Wade fight all these years was, hey, if it works, across the entire country, we can eliminate 8 percent of abortions?

GLENN: May I just ask you a question, the Supreme Court said the federal government has no -- has to go to the state.

STU: Right.

GLENN: So why wouldn't this be overturned as well as unconstitutional?

STU: I think it probably would. Especially with this Supreme Court. But, again, what is the point of winning elections, if -- what is the point of welling an election. If you win election after election after election, and get all the Supreme Court justices in, and then they overturn Roe vs. Wade. And your big idea is, hey, what if we mess around at the very edges of the fringe, and eliminate a few super late-term abortions. Well, I mean, that's great. It's better than nothing. But clearly, that can't be the reason why we spent a half century battle to overturn Roe vs. Wade. Obviously, that can't be the end of this, right?

GLENN: No. Because at 15 weeks, we'll get better at technology, and we'll be able to save children before 15 weeks. We'll eventually be able to grow them in a jar, okay?

STU: Whether you can save them in a jar or not, it's still life, right?

GLENN: Right. I know. But as it gets closer and closer, to being able to just put that embryo and put it in a jar. And grow it in a jar. We know it's life. It's like --

STU: It gets harder and harder to deny.

GLENN: Now it's 15. What's it going to be in the future. This doesn't make any sense.

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Glenn: Why this man’s SHOCKING FBI arrest matters to YOU

Mark Houck, pro-life author and father of seven, was arrested in Philadelphia last year for allegedly shoving a pro-choice protester away from his young son. The charges were dropped, which makes his recent arrest story that much more terrifying. In this clip, Glenn details the shocking way Houck recently was taken into custody by the FBI for supposed FACE Act violations. But whether or not you agree with Houck’s pro-life stance, Glenn explains, this story has HUGE implications for every single American: ‘Is this the America you want?’ Glenn asks. ‘Because once YOU get out of line, you’ll be the one finishing the poem: When they came for me, there was no one left.’

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GLENN: Mark Hock, along with Ryan Marie Hock. Seven children. Mark's a well-known pro-life author, sidewalk counselor, father of seven. And thank goodness the S.W.A.T. team came into his house. Yes. Yes. Came into his house. Broke the door down.

Scared the hell out of the family, and he is in jail today!

Apparently, he violated the Face Act. Now, I wanted to understand exactly what the face act is. So I looked it up. Let me see if I can find it here. Face act. No. It was moved.

That's helpful. So the Face Act, basically what the Face Act is. I don't know where it was moved to. But basically the Face Act is something that the local governments and even the federal government, can bring up charges on, if you are trying to block somebody from going into an abortion clinic.

STU: Freedom of access to clinic entrances.

GLENN: Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Freedom, yeah. What is -- can we stop naming them stupid names?

STU: Are we so dumb, that we need to summarize --

GLENN: We are. Okay. So you can't block somebody from having access. Well, he didn't block anybody from having access. There was another street performer, somebody else who was screaming at the other side.

And he and his son were there, and they were praying. And this activist, who was not going into the Planned Parenthood.

Wasn't escorting anybody. He starts screaming at mark and his son. And not sure exactly, what happened.

But it got to a place, where this guy had cornered Mark's son. And Mark said, back off. Back off. The guy doesn't back off, so he shoves Mark.

Now, word is, this guy is -- what do they call him, a tumbler? I think.

He's a guy who, if you touch him, he falls down. Oh. Oh, my gosh --

STU: A flopper. A flopper. He's like the Lebron James of the abortion clinics.

GLENN: Apparently. Apparently.

STU: Allegedly.

GLENN: Allegedly.

Okay. Thank you. So the police come, and they arrest the father of seven, for pushing this man to the ground. Planned Parenthood has got it all on tape. They got it on tape. So it goes to trial. And the case is dismissed.

Wait a minute.

I haven't heard that part of the story. The case was dismissed. I thought the FBI. Oh. Oh, yeah. The Justice Department, heard about this case. And thought it was so egregious, that if the local police and state police won't do anything about it, we certainly will.

So they went in, kicking and screaming, into this house, of this family.

They -- 25 or 30 FBI agents swarmed the property, 15 vehicles. It's 7 o'clock in the morning. They surround the house with rifles, in firing position. And they start pounding on the door, yelling for the family to open up the door.

And he approaches.

Now, the kids are upstairs. Everybody is screaming and crying.

And he's telling them to calm down, and he's trying to calm the FBI down as well. He says, please, I am going to open the door. But please, my children are in the home. I have seven babies in the house. And they just kept pounding and screaming. The FBI did.

When he opened the door, according to him, they had big, huge rifles, pointed at him and pointed at mom. And then they went into the house, and were pointing them throughout the house.

When they came in, they ordered the kids to stay upstairs. The staircase is open. So the kids were all at the top of the stairs, which faces the front door.

I was on the stairs as well, coming down. Kids were all just screaming. It was very scary and traumatic. After asking why they were at the house, the agents said, they had to have been there to arrest Mark. When mom asked for their warrant. They said they were going to take him, whether they had a warrant or not.

When she said, that's kidnapping. You can't just come into a person's house and kidnap them at gun point, they agreed to get the warrant from -- for her, from one of the vehicles.

Oh. Good. At this point, Mark asked her to get him a sweatshirt, and his rosary beads. When she returned, they had already loaded him up into the vehicle.

Now, what did this guy do again, that warranted this?

Our friends, who voted for Democrats, is this the America that you want? Any friend who votes differently, any American citizen that votes differently, do you want a guy getting his door kicked in, after the charges were dismissed in court? Do you want the FBI kicking down his door for pushing a guy, who was yelling at his son. Pushing him down for the ground?

I'm not for violence. He's not for violence. He's reason been violent before.

It was a dad responding. The court dismisses it. Is this the America that you want?

Because once you get out of line, once you decide, if we don't all stand together now, you're not going to make it. You'll be the one finishing the poem, when they came for me, there was no one left. You will be the one finishing the poem. You have to stand up now. We have to stand up together. And say, the Department of Justice. And the FBI is completely out of control.

I don't think the Postal Service, should be spying on American people.

Another whistle-blower has come out from the FBI. To warn about the politicalization of the FBI. Saying, the bureau is spying on law-abiding citizens and that many of its domestic counterterrorism cases are tantamount to entrapment. Another FBI agent is coming out and saying this now. This is an interview with the Washington Times. Quote, my team was deployed 20 or 25 different high profile national terrorist organizations. Investigating what I saw, is the -- the counterterrorism and investigations. Is always and unequivocally morally equivalent to entrapment, even if there's legal definition that allows them to skirt that. They are using every tool.

Isn't this what people did to Martin Luther King?

Isn't this what people did when the government was completely out of control in the past? And isn't this exactly what others did to their political enemies in every country that has ever been run by thugs?

I still believe in America. I still believe in my neighbor. I still believe in the neighbor that votes differently than me.

I -- I think that there are a lot of people, that are feeling it now. But they don't know what to do. And they don't know if they want to lose all their friends. Their status. Because they're not really sure. Reassure them, that you're not the crazy one. Reassure them. Don't try to change their mind.

Just ask them questions. Are you really -- are you really for the transgender -- you're really okay with hospitals mutilating young children, when there is no scientific proof that this is good? In fact, if you're trying to stop suicides, this makes suicides worse. You really -- I don't understand. And even if you're for that. Help me out on the trans library parties. I'm not for banning books. I don't want to ban books at libraries. Books where, in the children's section at a school. Yeah. There are books. I'm not going to put a Playboy there. You wouldn't put a Playboy there. Then why would you put this? It's much more explicit than a Playboy. And it's showing kids how to engage in all kinds of different sex. For first grade, third grade. Really? You're for that now?

Wake your friends up. Wake them up. Because first they came for the January 6 protesters. Even the peaceful ones. And they charged them with parading. And I didn't speak out. Then they came for the gun rights supporters, and I didn't speak out. Because I wasn't a gun owner. Then they came for the pro-life activists, and I didn't speak out or stand up because, yeah, I'm pro-life. But I'm not an activist. Now they come for people who voted for Trump, but I didn't vote for Trump. I got news for you, that's 50 percent of the nation. You add in the hatred of white people, Asians. Cisgender, and gays that don't support trans, shown in libraries, that's an awful lot of people.

Who will be left to defend you?