RADIOApril 14, 2022

Biden’s Shanghai SILENCE shows he’s been BOUGHT by China

The world — along with the Biden administration — SHOULD be outraged about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and the destruction caused by President Putin. But there’s another ongoing crisis that deserves just as much furor from around the world — yet President Biden remains silent. Glenn details what’s currently happening in Shanghai, China, where millions of residents have been forced into their homes — without food — due to strict COVID lockdown measures. Shanghai residents are suffering immeasurably, and many of them already have succumbed over the last week to the Chinese government’s brutality. We must DEMAND our President speak out against this tragedy because if he doesn't, it further proves his administration has been BOUGHT AND SOLD by the CCP.

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GLENN: So yesterday, I have been so busy. I'm sorry to say. And following so many other stories. I have not really been following Shanghai, other than, you know, briefings. And I have neglected this story. Much to my shame. Yesterday, I spent the time to actually look at some of the videos. Tell me when you have videos ready. Are you ready?

Let me just start here. The U.S. has pulled all nonessential consulate employees from Shanghai while warning Americans not to travel to the major Chinese city because of a brutal lockdown, that could leave them separated from their kids. Didn't we see something like that here in America? I mean, I just heard the story yesterday. Where somebody -- where was it? In Chicago? Or maybe it was the Mayo Clinic. They were doing a kid any transplant. And it was the dad giving his kid any to his son. And his dad hadn't had the vaccine. And so they wouldn't take his kid any and give it to his son. May I ask the question, to all of the hospitals. You have a guy who is dying from a car wreck, or maybe already dead. But his kid any is still functioning, but he's brain dead. Do you you not use his organs, because he didn't have a vaccine? Do you even check on that?

This is insanity what is happening. And we still haven't lifted our emergency. Our kids literally, according to teachers in Fairfax County. Kids now entering the first grade can't even tie their shoes. They are so far behind. Our suicide rate is so high. And remember, China is the model on just about everything in America now.

The World Economic Forum, China is the model. The way to structure society. Our CDC. Our -- our -- our god, Dr. Fauci. China is the model. In Shanghai, they've locked everyone in their homes. So you know, Shanghai is -- Shanghai is a city. Shanghai has 26 million people. And they are starving them to death. They are locking them in. In fact, can we show the first video. I think the first video that we have of the -- it looks like Central Park in New York. It has all of the -- yeah. That one, please.

It has -- listen to this. These are the people screaming in hunger.

Now, this guy is saying that revolution is coming. Because people are starving to death, and this is just the beginning. Listen to that.

You also have -- let me start here. I don't think this is as disturbing as the one I'm going to show you. So let me start with this. Because this is disturbing. And if you happen to be watching TheBlaze, you will see these images. I want to show you the -- how they're rounding up animals. Your dogs. Your cats. They are either clubbing them to death in the streets. Or they just pick them up, and they're throwing them into bags, like trash bags. This is video of all of these cats, and dogs, in trash bags. They're alive. They just throw them in these trash bags. At first, I thought, because I lived in New York for a while. I thought they were bags of garbage, and there were rats in them. Because that's what happened in New York. You see a trash bag move. There aren't cats or dogs in them. There are rats. These are bags where the dogs and cats have been rounded up, thrown in trash bags. And left by the side of the road. People are being forced to give up their dogs. And they are being kicked and clubbed in the street.

And then, there are these extraordinarily disturbing image. If you're listening on radio, good. I'll describe what you're seeing. If you're watching on TheBlaze.

There is a -- there is a real problem in Shanghai now, as people are starving to death. And they are locked in to their apartments. Now, imagine Central Park. And imagine all those tall buildings. Except, these are taller. All those tall buildings that wrap around Central Park. What's happening now is people can't take it anymore. They're starving to death. There is no food. They're not allowed to leave. If they do leave, they're taken to a camp, where most likely, you're going to be beaten to death or die. And so they are experiencing now, suicides. Roll this, and I will describe it as

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People who are at the end of their road. Who are leaping to their death. People are reacting obviously. And it's over and over and over.

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This is like watching what happened on our World Trade Center on 9/11. Except, this isn't a fire. These people are just trying to escape from the government, the lockdown, and hunger.

It is a remarkable -- I have to tell you, we are now sending helicopters to Ukraine. We're sending -- we can stop playing it. These are just -- since I've been talking about this, it's just person jumping, person jumping, person jumping. It's not like one. It's over and over and over and over and over again, throughout the city. We are now selling helicopters -- or sending helicopters and heavy artillery, to Ukraine. This is something that three weeks ago, Joe Biden said, we can't do.

Remember, what was it? Poland. Was going to end some of their old MiGs. And they were going to send those MiGs to, what it was? Czechoslovakia. And they were going to move them with keys in them. And if people from Ukraine, pilots came in and found them, we would be really sad. And Biden stopped it. Because it would be an act of war. We're now selling and sending helicopters and heavy artillery, over to Ukraine.

Wait. Wait. Can somebody tell me what just happened. What's changed in the last three weeks? Is it genocide? Because that's what the president says. State Department says, they're not sure. Which is it? Are we stepping up to war?

And we are looking at a tragedy. An absolute tragedy. And maybe genocide. Maybe mass slaughter of people in Ukraine.

But this is one city in China. Of 26 million people. If 5 percent of them starve or die, that's 1.25 million people. 5 percent, gang.

And our president hasn't even addressed it. Hasn't even said -- no world leader has. Where is the UN. Where is NATO? Where is anyone -- is anyone saying anything at all about China?

No. No. No, they're not. You know why? Because everybody has been bought and sold. We've been sold, bound, and gagged.

By the way, the stuff coming out of Shanghai, that's just the stuff that's gotten through and gotten out. Remember, Facebook and everybody else, they're -- they're suppressing this in China. So this is just the stuff that's getting out, and getting through. What are we not seeing in China?

I saw a mother yesterday, who mom, dad, and the sister and the grandmother had been taken from their house, because they tested covid positive. Their new -- newborn that was still breast-feeding, was not covid-positive. And he was left at home.

The mother was crying out for help. What are you doing? I can't -- you can't leave my son. He's a newborn. He's still breast-feeding. You can't leave my son here. She had no choice.

We are living -- we are living what people in the 1930s lived. Where great evil was happening all over the earth. Except, back then, we weren't sure. We didn't have video. We couldn't see it with our own eyes. The New York Times hid what Russia was doing to people. Hid the slaughter of people there. They wouldn't verify anything about the Jews. They -- they pushed that way back in the paper. Page A26. Maybe two paragraphs. But the -- the world could be held, not really responsible, in many ways. Because the people didn't know.

We know, gang. We know.

We have got to demand, that our president, who has taken money from the Chinese. Millions of dollars, through his son -- and I would say this about Donald Trump, who didn't take any money from the Chinese. If he remains silent, shame on you. Do we not have any moral code left in this country?

When will the people who represent us actually represent us? And stop representing China.

What's happening in China is an ambassador. And remember, our elected officials and now, all of our corporations, all believe China is the model. I warn, what you're seeing happen in China, will happen here, and all over the world, unless someone has a back bone. And gang, it's only going to be the American people. It will. I mean, well, Canada. Look what the truckers did in Canada. Somebody has got to stand up and say, enough is enough. Back in a minute.

GLENN: So the Chinese government said that they are going to crack down hard, in the strictest of ways. For anybody who violates the covid lockdown in Shanghai. Shanghai is running out of food. And here's why: Shanghai is a lot like Naples, at least 30 years ago. I don't know what it's like now. But people used to go to the market. The fish market. They would get their vegetables, and their fish. And then they would do it every day. And then they would bring it back. That's the way Shanghai runs. Everybody goes to the market, pretty much every day. And they get their fresh food. Well, the problem is, all the grocery stores have been locked down. But they weren't getting any food delivered in. Because you can't deliver it. Because the truckers were shut down.

So all of this food is on the outskirts of the city. And it's all raw, not processed. If you're watching TheBlaze, you can see some of it. It's just so much food, and it's all rotted. So there is no food. It's not like they're not delivering it to the grocery stores anymore. That's not necessarily the problem. The problem is, there isn't any. This is -- this is what happens, when you put -- when you make everything about politics. And when you put experts in charge of everything. Common sense goes to hell. Look, covid. Yes. Some of us will die. Most of us will not.

Government has no right to lock us into our homes and tell us what to do. This is murder. This is -- this is nothing short of that. The government knows, these people will die. And if they leave their house to try to protect their family, they'll be shot.

GLENN: You know, you think that a leopard can change its spots, and it can't. It can't.

Marxism and, quite honestly, intellectualism, always ends the same way. When you put intellectuals in charge, and they think they're better than everyone else.

Most people -- most people really don't recall the five-year plan. In fact, in China, it's -- it's against the law to talk about the five-year plan. You're not allowed to talk about it or teach about it. Most people don't know about it in China. And it started with Mao saying, hey. We're better than this. We're capable of anything.

And we really need to -- we need to change the way we do industry. And the way we do agriculture. And so he had a plan that was supposed to last from 1958 to 1963. And it was called the great leap forward. It was The Great Reset. We don't work as well. So we have to change things. And he had a plan for everything. From the way your family worked, all the way up. And they were going -- they were going to change everything. Industry could prosper, if the work force was well-fed. And while the agricultural workers needed industry to produce the modern tools needed for modernization. What he said was, all we have to do is we have to make our own steel, so we can make our own trackers and trucks and everything else. And then if we make all this stuff, then we can give it to the farmers. And the farmers will be able to make so much money. In fact, we'll require them, to grow so much food. And everybody will be have a quota. And it was great. It was great. And the people gave up ownership. Mao had this idea, that you would own nothing, and you would be happy. And so they gave up ownership of everything. And it was owned by the state and by the communes. So everything in these communes was controlled. Every bit of your life. You know, school. Nurseries. Health care. They -- people moved into what was called the houses of happiness. So they could be looked after and cared for by the state. All they had to do was just go to work. 700 million people were placed in these communes by 1958. Here's the problem: Enthusiasm kind of stopped once they were in their house of happiness. Because life was not as they said it would be. People owned nothing. But they weren't quite so happy. But they produced. And they -- and they produced and produced and produced. And they hit their steel quota. Propaganda was everywhere, including the fields.

You could listen to political speeches, as you were working. It was great. Because politics, it was everything. Everybody in communes was urged not just to meet the set targets, but to beat them. And if you didn't have the machine, well, use your bare hands. Quality became a little dubious. The problem is: The steel that they were making wasn't holding up. The trackers that they were putting together, weren't working.

And then they had a weather turn. Well, here's what happened: Things started to go wrong in 1959. Listen to this. Political decisions and beliefs. Took precedence over common sense. I haven't heard that, have you? Have you heard any of this plan being discussed, recently, at all?

Communes faced the task of doing things, which they were incapable of achieving. Party officials would order the impossible, and commune leaders, who knew what their commune was capable of doing or not, could be charged with being a reactionary, if they complained. Such a charge would lead them to be an outcast or be sent to prison.

We're not having that problem, are we? You're seeing anybody that is becoming an outcast, because they disagree with where the political leaders are taking us? Saying that maybe this covid thing is not a good idea? Maybe we shouldn't be handling it this way?

Maybe your policies are leading to this inflation. Maybe we won't own nothing and be happy?

Nobody is being made an outcast for those points of view, right? So here's the problem: Because they were trying to make steel, a lot of the farmers, had to take work away from their fields. And so the fields weren't being harvested. And then they had problems with the steel that they were making to help the farmers. And then the weather went bad. What could possibly go wrong?

Well, here's what went wrong: The first year, 9 million people, in China starved to death. 9 million people.

Mao's attitude was, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. It will get better.

20 million people died, in China. Starved to death. Before 1962. 20 million. They say that is a very low number. It's more likely that it was around 40 million people died.

But we don't know, because, you know, it's China. These communist countries, these countries that are set up, where the elites have all of the power. And they do that, because they care so much about you. The little person. They care. And they know what's right for you. These countries that are set up like this, always end up like China and -- and what's happening in Shanghai right now. Because they don't know better than you. They can't make decisions for your family. Do you think people would stay in their home, after they know what they know about covid. This is not the first run with covid. Do you really think that they would stay at home, be locked inside, and do you think with what they know now, and what we know now about covid, do you think it would be worse than the possibility of one city, one. There are multiple cities locked down. This is just Shanghai. This is the financial capital now, of China. This is our New York City. Except, New York City has 7 million people. They have 25 or 26 million people. Hmm. Do you think if those people were allowed to leave and the truckers were allowed to deliver things, do you think there would be starvation? Do you think it would be a possible revolution? Because that's what they're headed for. And the only way to stop it. And this is why they're being so brutal, the only way to stop it is to kill people. And they have no problem killing them. Food would not have been rotting. Central planning never works. And we have so lost our -- our willingness to learn from the past. We're just trying to erase the past. Which is strange. Because that's exactly what happened in China. Scholars now say, in China, that, you know, this is when they could talk in China. People who lived through it, are now discovering the true history of the great famine. And they're now putting it together, saying, wait. The government knew about this. They were the ones responsible for this. Those people, who actually have seen the history in China, now know what the problem is. And they know what the problem is with this covid shutdown too. It's the same problem. And it will end most likely, the same way. And most likely, we will hear about some of the dead. And some of the devastation. But not all of it.

Here's a big difference, however. In 1962, China didn't affect us. China didn't affect the rest of the world. What they did with their citizens, I guess, was their business.

This shutdown is already causing problems here in America. Remember, this is like January. Remember, we didn't really start to feel the effects, until, when? July. This is like January, when we were first watching it. And they were shutting down the city. And it wasn't Shanghai. And they were shutting everything down.

We saw the effects, within a couple of months. We are going to see the effects of this, over here. On what you can buy, what you can't buy. What you have access 20. Repair parts, chips. Computers.

Everything. I mean, if that's what motivates you. You should look at it, in a financial way. This is going to cripple the global economy.

I just personally hope we get the message, that we are going to have problems, so we don't have to worry about food. When the time comes. Please, plant a garden. If you live near farmers, if you don't have a farmer's market, start one. If you do, start getting to know the farmers.

You're going need to the farmers. Please, be in a community, where you all kind of think alike. Because you don't want to be alone.

You don't want to be -- you don't want to be surrounded in a city, full of the people like Mao had. You want to be surrounded by God-fearing people, who know the Judeo-Christian ethic of do unto others. Love thy neighbor. Back in a minute.

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GLENN: Darren, welcome to the program. How are you? Darren, are you there? Is he there?

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: Okay. Check if he's there. Is he? Dick Cheney. Dick Cheney.

STU: Trying to shut him down. They don't want peace. They don't want peace.

GLENN: They don't. They don't.

He is -- he is a big-time anti-globalist. I've got to tell you, what we're doing with the State Department. I absolutely love. The State Department has been a big problem for this country for a very long time. It's what's gotten us into these global wars. These endless wars, and everything he is.

And, I mean, I don't know what happened to Marco rube, but he is tremendous.

And the way president Trump is appointing different people like Darren, it's fantastic. Darren, are you there? Darren.

STU: Something must be wrong with the lines. Because we are talking to him offline on the phone here. And it does seem to be working, but not coming through our broadcast board here for whatever reason.

GLENN: Well, let's see if we can get that fixed, and maybe let me just talk here for five, six minutes on something else. Then we'll take a break and come back and see if we can get him.

There's something else that I really want to talk about. And that is this flag-burning thing. Now, it's not an amendment.

This is something that the president is putting up in an executive order and has very little teeth to it.

But I -- I -- look, I understand. As a guy putting an enormous flagpole up at my house today.

I mean, an enormous flagpole.

I love the flag. I love it!

And there are a few things that make me more angry than see somebody you set our flag on fire.

For a lot of people, that's a punch in the gut, especially our military people. And it has been planted on distant battlefields. It's raced after victory. Saluted in the morning, or should be in our schools and folded and given to the hands of grieving families. It feels like spitting on every sacrifice, that ever made this nation possible. And the argument against flag burning is really simple: It dishonors the idea of all of that. Okay?

And it defends millions of people, including me. It disrespects, I think the veterans that bled. The families who mourned. The dream that binds us together.

However, here's the hard truth: Symbols only mean something, in a land where freedom is alive.

If you outlaw the burning of a flag, the you have placed the cloth above the Constitution that it represents. You have made the flag an idol.

We don't worship idols. If you can only praise the flag and never protest it, it just stops being a symbol of freedom. And starts being an idol of obedience.

Now, that's the argument for allowing it. At least to me.

Because the real strength of a free nation is -- is to -- it's -- it's how we protect, not the speech we love, but how we endure the speech we hate!

And the Supreme Court has already ruled on this. And, you know, they -- the line they drew wasn't an easy one. Freedom of speech, stops where it directly -- directly insights violence. And that's it same thing, kind of, in this executive order.

You can burn the flag. But if I'm not mistaken, but if it incites violence, then you're in trouble.

And that's true. But the bar of inciting violence is so incredibly high. And it's -- it doesn't have anything to do with speech that offends. It's not speech that stirs anger. Not speech that wants you to punch the speaker in the mouth. It's speech only, that provokes imminent and specific violence.

And unless it's that be with the government doesn't have any right to -- to get into the business of silencing speech. Ever. Ever. Ever.

It is a hard line. And that standard is really hard. It's painfully hard.

Because what our citizenship requires, this is civics. What our citizenships require, is that we defend -- oh, I hate this.

We defend the right of your opponent to mock everything that we hold sacred.

Now, I want you to think of this. You can burn a Bible. You can burn the Word of God. But some want to make it illegal to burn a flag. Where are our priorities? You can burn the Constitution. The words that actually are the ones that stir us into action. But you can't burn a flag.

You can't burn a Koran. Can't burn them. Can't. Can't.

You will -- you will quickly come to a quick end, not legally. But you will come to a quick end. I don't ever want to be like that. Ever!

You burn a Bible. I think you're a monster. What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you?

But you have a right to do it. Why are we drawing a line around the flag? It -- the reason is -- is because we feel things so passionately. And that is really a good thing, to feel love of country so passionately. But then we have to temper that. My father used to tell me, that I think this country needs to hear over and over again, every day. My father -- we would talk to somebody. And we would walk away. And he would go, I so disagree with everything that man just said. But, Glenn, son, he would say. I will fight to the death for his right to say it. He used to say that to me all the time. Which now lees me to believe, I know where I've got my strong opinions from. Because dad apparently would disagree with a lot of people all the time.

But that was the essence of freedom. That is the essence of what sets us apart. Standing for universal, eternal rights like free speech. It's not easy. It means you have to take the size of those people that offend you. It means -- it doesn't mean you have to disagree with it. You can fight against it. You can argue back and forth.

But you -- can you tolerate the insults to the things that you love most. That is so hard, and that is why most of the world does not have freedom of speech. It's too hard! But our Founders believed people are better than that. Our citizens can rule themselves!

And the only way you can rule yourself is if you don't have limits on freedom of speech. So the question is, do we want to remain free? Or do we want to just feel good? It really is that simple. It's why no one else has freedom of speech. It's too hard! I think we're up to the task. Okay. Give me 60 seconds. And then we will try again.

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All right. Let me -- let me bring Darren in. Darren, are you there now?

DARREN: Yes!
GLENN: Oh, God. Thank goodness.
Thank you for putting up with us. I don't know what happened with the phone system. But, first of all, tell me what the US Institute of Peace is. I've never even heard of it.

DARREN: That is a fantastic question. And I'll try to give the abbreviated answer, because I know we don't have several hours.

GLENN: Good. I know.

DARREN: But US Institute of Peace is one of lesser known, but quite important member of the NGO archipelago, that was created in the '80s. It belongs to the same cohorts as national endowments for democracy.

GLENN: Oh.

DARREN: And some other -- some other better known NGOs that really in the broad context of things. In kind of the sweep of things, was created as a kind of reorganization of the government structure in the aftermath of the church type committee hearings that expose a lot of the dirty dealings of government agencies such as the CIA, and so sort of a broader response to that government lie was to create this NGO layer of governance, with an armed distant plausible deniability, a kind of chameleon character of not exactly being government, not exactly being private, in order to fulfill some of those more sensitive functions that had been exposed in the course of the church hearings.

And so US Institute of Peace is one of those NGOs that had particular focus on conflict regions. But, of course, as I think you -- you suggested earlier, peace requires at the very least, an asterisk. Because there involves a lot of things, that conventional, most American citizens would not think should belong as part of the portfolio of something calling itself an institute of peace.

GLENN: So what was the thing with the -- with this Taliban member that was getting money from us?

DARREN: Right. So this is an interesting case. So there's a whole saga of a takeover of the US institute of peace under -- under DOGE.

And that's really a fascinating story unto itself. Just to give you a sense of what these characters were like. They barricaded themselves in the offices.

They sabotaged the physical infrastructure of the building. There were reports of there being loaded guns within the offices.

GLENN: Wow!

DARREN: There was one, like, hostage situation where they held a security guard under basically kind of a false imprisonment type situation. It was extremely intense.

Far more so than the better known story of USAID. And in the course of all of that, they tried to delete a terabyte of data, of accounting information that would indicate what kind of stuff they were up to.

What kind of people they were paying. And in the course of that, DOGE found that one of the people on their payroll. Was this curious figure, who had a prominent role in the Taliban government. And then seemed to kind of play a bunch of angles across each other.

Sort of one of these sixer types in the middle of Afghanistan.

The question is, what the heck is an organization like this, having an individual, who is a former Taliban member on their payroll.

It underscores how incredibly bizarre the whole arrangement is. And to just reinforce that. I think even more bizarre than having this former Taliban guy on the payroll is the kind of schizophrenic posture exhibited by the chief -- one truly bizarre thing is that one of the US Institute of Peace's main kind of policy agendas was basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade had dissipated under Taliban leadership. They had multiple reports coming out, basically saying, this is horrible, that the opium trade is diminished under the Taliban. Meaning, finding some way to restore it. How bizarre is that!

GLENN: What was their thinking?

DARREN: Well, it's -- it's very strange, and it depends on what kind of rabbit holes you want to go down. But the whole story of opium and Afghanistan and its connection to, you know, government entities, is a -- is a very intricate and delicate and fascinating one. But it seems very clear that the US Institute of Peace was involved in that story to some degree because their public reports. They had a full-the time guy of basically lamenting the fact that the opium trade dissipated under the Taliban. And, meanwhile, they're funding this former Taliban guy.

GLENN: Unbelievable. Now, ProPublica got this. And you have released the statement on it. And ProPublica just completely white-washed this -- said this guy was a victim, and his family was taken hostage. Was his family ever taken hostage because he was exposed?

And correct the ProPublica story, would you?

DARREN: Yeah, I mean, the ProPublica thing, as usual and as expected was a total joke.

GLENN: Yes.

DARREN: I mean, this guy, I'm not an expert on this particular person's history. But what's very clear is he was a former Taliban guy, and he was probably one of these people, who was playing all sides, made a lot of enemies. I know that there were several kind of attempts on his life by the Taliban, in the course of various -- various decades.

This has nothing to do with -- with DOGE.

I mean, he's a known quantity in the region.

And somebody who has made a lot of enemies.

And he was not -- he was on the payroll of the US institute of peace.

And nobody is expecting something like that. So then, and, again, there's this sort of hostile takeover situation.

Where the people are barricading he themselves in. Trying to delete all this data.

And sure enough, what's in the data, is stuff like this.

These random former Taliban guy, making his contract with $130,000.

GLENN: You know, this is the -- this is the real Deep State stuff, that I think bothers people so much.

Look, we expect our CIA to do stuff, we don't necessarily want to do it. We expect it.

When it's in the State Department.

When every department is pushing out money to NGOs to overthrow governments and everything else.

It's out of control!

It's just completely out of control.

And who is overseeing all of that.

DARREN: That's a great question.

I think part of the NGO -- UCEF was almost a cutout of a cutout.

A fourth of its money came from USAID.

In many ways, it was a cutout of USAID. Which itself was a cutout.

So there are many layers of distance. Plausible deniability.

And UCEF, I think institutionally really perfected this chameleon structure of being able to plausibly present itself as government. When that was convenient for what they were doing.

And also to present itself as a private organization, when that was convenient.

It's a very intricate setup that they had, that was truly optimized for this chameleon character of plausible denial operations. In conflict zones. Doing God knows what, with American taxpayer money.

And it's just an absolute hornet's nest.

We have recovered that terabyte that they tried to delete. And once we get things settled in the building itself, I intend to do a kind of transparency effort, whereby we release all of this material to the public.

GLENN: Good. Good.

DARREN: Just like I'm doing at the State Department. I'm currently acting as secretary at the State Department. And doing a transparency effort here. After I eliminated the global engagement center, which was sort of the internal censorship office within the State Department, decided, we've got to -- we've got to air this out to the public.

So within the next couple of weeks.

We'll have our next tranche of helps you of thousands of emails, documenting what this were doing.

GLENN: I would love you to go back on, through those emails.

I think you guys in the State Department are doing an amazing job. Thanks for being on.