RADIOJanuary 09, 2024

Chip Roy RIPS INTO Speaker Johnson's 'GARBAGE' spending deal

Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson and Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer have agreed on spending levels on the next budget bill. But Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) is furious. While Speaker Johnson has touted the agreement as a way to cut back on spending and avoid a government shutdown, Rep. Roy points out that it would spend nearly $60 billion more than Nancy Pelosi's last spending bill and $100 billion more than is needed (once again, without addressing the border crisis): "The Republicans are doing exactly what they always do, which is be the party of excuses ... New speaker, more of the same garbage."

Transcript

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GLENN: Chip. Are you there?

CHIP: How are you, brother?

GLENN: You know, I would be better, if I thought you were bringing happy news to the table.

But the House and the Senate, have put together a budget, that they say is going to cut spending. Boy. Is it ever. And really has had to go to do with the border, does it?

CHIP: Yeah. Look. Glenn, first of all, greetings from West Des Moines, Iowa, where it's 20 degrees outside. And a snowstorm coming in.

But the real snowstorm coming in is coming to DC. It will hammer the American people.

Republicans are doing exactly what they always do, which is be the party of excuses.

The party that will never find a way to not capitulate and spend more money that we don't have, and rack up more debt. So what are we doing now? Speaker Johnson. Speaker, do more of the same garbage.

We will have a bill that is $1.66 trillion. That is almost -- I think that's about $58 billion more than the disastrous Nancy Pelosi omnibus bill, that Republicans opposed a year ago.

It is $100 billion more than what we would get if Republicans had the spine to walk up to the House floor and send a simple year-long continuing resolution over to the Senate.

That would trigger the cuts, all -- albeit meager in the debt deal last summer. It would trigger cuts, that we could get, $1.562 trillion in spending.

They won't do that. Because they're all in the hip pocket of all the lobbyests.

They hide behind our military. And now we will not get the border secure, we will spend 100 billion more than we have to. We will increase spending over the Nancy Pelosi spending deal.

And Republicans are going to try to sell you and the American people, that that somehow is a win. Don't believe that. This is what the American people are tired of.

Look, I will call balls and strikes. I call balls and strikes on Kevin.

I will call balls and strikes on Mike as speaker. People should call balls and strikes on me, that's the way it works.

GLENN: So, Chip, we're running out of time and options here.

I don't know if anybody in Washington has seen that. But the Republicans, they don't care about -- I mean, they're not in touch with the average American.

They're just not. At least in the ruling class of Republican circles.

They're -- I don't know. In it for themselves. Or just completely delusional, on what the country is facing now.

The border alone is such a major stress, on absolutely everything.

From national security. To the economy.

To our social fabric. To our social services.

What are -- what is the average person supposed to do at this point?

CHIP: Well, I think what the Republican Senate will tell you, the House and the Senate.

They're trying to negotiate a border deal right now, on the back of a Ukraine spending fight.

Now, here's what my problem with that.

Yet again, I'm being asked to accept -- in October, November, I was accepted twice, continuing resolutions of Nancy Pelosi's spending levels.

And now it's a National Defense Authorization Act, which got rid of almost all of our policy changes we put in our version.

And then extended FISA over 16 months, so we can have a government that continues to spy on the American people. And now I'm being asked to accept this ridiculous spending deal with no real border security measures in it.

They will be a token.

So I will get a promise, trust me. Right?

We will do border security on a Ukraine deal, when half of the American people don't even want to give another dollar to Ukraine anyway. Irrespective of whether you actually got a border deal. Which neither you nor I, nor your listeners believe will actually materialize.

GLENN: So wait. Wait.

Chip, help me out. Which one. I think they're both, a gun to the head dangerous.

But which one is more pressing right now? The financial. The financial. The budget deal. Or the border.

CHIP: In my view, they're actually both important. But I will take border security first.

But here's the problem. Here's the problem.

We can do both. We have in our hands because of the work we did last year, for all the speaker fights and negotiations.

I don't want to set aside. I don't want people to totally give up hope. We've bought last year, and we did what we've never done before. We passed a border security bill at HR2, to actually do the job.

He did so good, that the Wall Street Journal today was editorializing against it. Saying it was too hard, that it had things in there about building the wall.

That it had e-verify in there.

So if Wall Street Journal is editorializing against your border bill, it's probably a good border bill.

So you have our border bill, which was effective. We passed it. We got it done. I hear chuckling. You know I'm right.

GLENN: I know.

CHIP: Side note, it is the chamber of commerce, Wall Street Journal Republicans who have totally screwed our country for two decades. Because they want their cheap labor.

They want to sit down at the Rio Grande. They want to have a sign that said, no trespassing. While they're going, wink, wink, nod, nod to the other side, saying help wanted.

Come on in, we don't give a crap whether our border is wide open. We don't give a crap if terrorists are coming again.

We don't give a crap if cartels are in power. We don't give a crap if our kids are dying from fentanyl.

That's what's happening right now.

So we've got a bill that's passed that's good.

Bird in hand, we should use it to negotiate to get border security.

We have a bird in hand, which is cash on spending. They want the caps that Glenn Beck and Chip Roy were negotiating. They were caps, that actually now, if we were to pass a continuing resolution for the rest of the year. They would trigger 1.562 trillion. Which would mean we would cut spending between 40 and $70 billion. Rather than -- which is additional, $100 billion.

GLENN: Can I just -- can I just point, that's not a lot of money, when you're spending 4 trillion!

I mean, I -- I -- it's -- honestly, it's like going to -- it's going to Bill Gates.

And saying, Bill, your spending is out of control. And I noticed, you bought four new cars last year. We have to stop spending the four new cars.

Four new cars!

He has a Boeing business jet he's running around in. I mean, this is so ridiculous to talk about these small numbers as being so substantial because they're not.

We lost -- what was it? $250 billion. We just lost last year!

Just lost.

Sent it out to the wrong people. Overpaid.

What are you talking about?

CHIP: Yeah. I mean, Glenn, it's absolutely ridiculous.

The amount of waste and the spending. But more importantly. We're funding the very bureaucrats that are targeting you, and undermining our freedom.

We're targeting -- we're funding IRS agents. We're funding DOJ bureaucrats that go after the former president, go after you and me. We're funding a DHS to not secure the border. That smug Alejandro Mayorkas who stood up there on the stage. And laugh at us, and blame it on Texas.

We're funding the lawyers to go to the Supreme Court, and challenge Texas in court, saying we can't cut razor wire.

I mean, you can't even put it into words.

I have to be honest with you. I'm on the ground in Iowa. Okay?

I'm meeting with voters every day. Very focused voters. And they are ready to rumble.

They are ready for a change. They are sick and tired of what's going on in the swamp.

They want somebody new. They want a new direction.

They want some change. Not to get into the political side.

I'm going to hear from governor DeSantis obviously. They want somebody who will actually do what they freaking said they would do, like Governor DeSantis did in Florida. And, look, he never flip-flopped.

And I heard on your show earlier. You asked about Vivek. He says a lot of great things. But he's flip-flopped a million times. On vaccines. On Trump. Covid, generally. I could go down a list. Governor DeSantis delivers up and down.

And so Governor DeSantis cut spending. Governor DeSantis took on Fauchi. Governor DeSantis took on COVID tyranny. He took on Disney and won.

He's now got Miami-Dade, teachers unions on the run. He got universal school choice passed. He's got an economy booming. That guy is actually a machine.

I've never seen anybody like it. And I've worked with different people. The guy is crushing it, and he's doing great in Iowa.

GLENN: I am a big fan of Ron DeSantis. I would vote for him in a heartbeat. Big fan of Ron DeSantis. And, again, I think -- I think the only reason why Ron DeSantis is not doing real well, is because people are saying, well, I'll take Donald Trump. Because it's Ron DeSantis. I don't think it's the same thing. But I think that's the same thing. Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis.

CHIP: Let's just compare apples to oranges there. You want to talk about the border.

Governor DeSantis stood up. He fought to get bills passed there when he was in the House. He stood up to fight for the good border security bill.

In 2018, Governor DeSantis was against Paul Ryan's amnesty bill. Donald Trump was for it. Governor DeSantis will actually fight for citizenship.

President Trump said in 2016 he would sign an executive order for citizenship.

He didn't do it.

Donald Trump said he would build the wall, have Mexico pay for it.

He then got up and gave excuses. Well, we have no mechanisms to make them pay for it.

We never -- we didn't get it built. They didn't pay for it.

Ron DeSantis stood up against Fauci. Shut down COVID hearings.

Look at President Trump. Gave Fauci a way out of office in January of 2021.

Look, I could go down the list even further, but there's no comparison.

Governor DeSantis is the guy we've been waiting for. Who will deliver, and he can serve for eight years. I love President Trump for what he did to shake up the swamp. But let's just be clear. He did not deliver. He didn't repeal Obamacare. He let Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell wag him around town.

We didn't get Obamacare repealed. Now you and I are sitting here screwed sitting here with high health care costs, letting insurance companies run our health care system.

And instead of actually having healthcare freedom, we have empowered Anthony Fauci to screw Americans.

Like, how many things do you have to fail on, to then go around and say, what a great president you were. Compared to a governor, who literally delivered on everything on the report card.

This is why President Trump will not debate Governor DeSantis. Because Governor DeSantis would actually clean his clock, if he compared his batting record with the former president.

GLENN: So let me go back to the -- the budget, the border.

Everything that is happening in America now.

Americans are target to cancel all of their streaming services.

There's a great story in my show prep today. About the restaurant owner that has broke down the math that causes him to charge $16 for a BLT sandwich.

And when you read it. At first, you're like $16 for a WLT. Then when you read it. You're like, okay. I'm surprised he's only charging $16 for that BLT. Americans feel it. They know their country is being taken. They know the Justice Department is completely out of control. The -- the Pentagon didn't even have a leader for a week. And we're starting to feel like, wow. We're at the end of this thing. What do we do, if the people in Washington don't listen to the people? What do we do?

CHIP: Well, there's a number of things. One, we have to elect somebody good. I've already said my piece on that. We have to get a president that will do it.

Number two, we in Congress have to keep holding ourselves accountable, and the people need to keep holding us accountable to do what we said we would do in Washington. I'll go back and fight this week. I will keep shining a light on it.

That's actually new.

We actually have groups there, who were actually doing the hard work of exposing all the garbage in these bills, and making it harder for these guys to capitulate. We will get there.

Have hope that people like Riley Gaines, stood up to the woke establishment.

People like Scott Smith, stood up to all the abuses in Virginia. Take hope that Chloe Cole stood up and said, you know what, these forced transition surgeries are garbage, or Mark Howitzer stood up to the DOJ in Philadelphia.

We should follow their lead. The American people should stand up and reclaim their inheritance, and keep pushing. Get people elected this year, who will fight.

Pay attention to who they are. Get out there, and have them make a the difference. Keep holding us accountable.

But also, remember, if we want to save this country, you talk about inflation. Talk about how everybody is suffering. We have to open up American energy. We don't talk about that enough.

Democrats are jamming through all of their subsidies for EVs. I don't think the American people know, there's a rule they are about to embrace, that will mandate two-thirds of the EVs by 2032.

That will destroy the internal combustion engine. It will destroy our ability to -- it will crush the economy. Drive the costs of goods and services up.

And I just want Republicans for one freaking moment to fight Democrat, with half of the energy. Half of the energy. That Democrats fight our country and our freedom.

That's what I will go back to Washington. When I fly back tomorrow. I will absolutely rip into my Republican colleagues, for this debacle of the spending bill.

And we will keep trying to force their hand.

GLENN: Chip, can you give me maybe three more minutes?

Chip, there is another story about the Supreme Court taking on the Donald Trump ballot case.

They're taking their own sweet time to do it. But this is something that is sweeping America.

It they take Donald Trump off the ballot, again, what do people do?

CHIP: Well, it's a great question. First of all, what they're doing. Look, obviously, I supported the Donald Trump, 2016, 2020.

I'll support what they're doing against him in Colorado. It's an absolute travesty.

It's politicizing the entire process. There is no conviction for insurrection. It's all a joke. They're doing it purposefully and politically. We are going to have to start responding in kind.

I'm willing -- I think -- I think -- this court will strike this down.

And will call this out for what it is.

But we'll see. Right

And then, if they don't. And then I can assure you, there is going to be then reactions as Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said in Texas. I think even governor DeSantis has brought it up.

Do we start saying that Joe Biden needs to be pulled off the ballot?

He's been in complete violation, violating our laws, violating an oath to the Constitution.

Endangering the American people, aiding and abetting our enemies in the cartels, who are flooding our country. So how is that not in violation of the 14th Amendment?

That, you know, aiding and abetting your enemies.

That's the language of the 14th Amendment.

So if we're going to play that game, and adjudicate that based on the whims of what a state wants to decide, as opposed to some actual convictions after a Civil War, you know, demonstration of insurrection, after a Civil War, as was intended in the 14th Amendment.

Then what's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

We will have to fight fire with fire. Right now, let's pray the court gets this right.

I think they will. But, man, these are strange times. So we will see what happens. I assume you're like me, that you think they will.

But, you know --

GLENN: I think they will. But the Democrats, again, I think they will.

Ask that will pass. But the Democrats will use that. As see, this out of control conservative court. You know, it just has to be.

We have to have are other new people on.

We have to get rid of these people. I mean, that's what they will use --

CHIP: No question. That's what -- but then we will just use it against them. Say this is why we need it more. We have a couple of our guys getting older.

You know, Sam Alito. Justice Thomas. God bless him. Our two most conservative justices.

And, you know, we've got to replace those guys. And people at least good or period of time.

Because the tree that Trump appointed were good. But they're not as good as those guys. They're not Scalia and Thomas. They're just okay.

GLENN: Yeah. Yeah.

Chip, thank you so much.

Enjoy the weather in Iowa.

CHIP: It's lovely. It ain't Dallas, I will tell you that.

By the way, our good friends of Patriot Mobile. Their good friends. God bless you.

And I'll be back in Texas, sometime soon.

GLENN: You've got it. Thank you. All right. That's Chip Roy from the great state of Texas, who is out on the campaign trail for Governor DeSantis today. Talking a little bit about the new deal that Republicans have cut to cut all this spending.

No. I've never been for a continuation.

You know, but I think I am this time.

Because there's more cuts, in just giving a continuation of the spending bill for another year.

What -- what -- what good are the Republicans at this point?

Canada FORCED this hospice center to EUTHANIZE its patients?!

Canada is forcing its Medical Assistance in Dying program, which offers euthanasia as a “medical treatment” option, on hospice centers. Delta Hospice Society executive director Angelina Ireland joins Glenn Beck to give the horrific details of how far the government went to try and get her to bend the knee: “I call it a culling. It’s a Canadian cull.”

Transcript

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GLENN: Let me take you to Canada for just a second.

And I want to -- this is a story that happened a while ago. But I want to just show you the dangers of public/private partnerships.

You're hearing this all the time. And every time, Joe Biden would say, public will she private partnership. It was all the Green New Deal and everything else.

I kept saying, that is fascism. That is exactly the deal that Mussolini and Hitler made. That's the difference between Communism and fascism.

They let you do your own thing. But you're a partner with the government. And as long as you abide by all of their rules, you're fine!

But the minute you disagree, you don't have a say. They'll throw you out on the street, so fast, your head will spin.

And that's exactly what happened to a hospice center. The Delta Hospice Society.

I have the -- the executive director on. Angelina Ireland.

And I asked her to come on today, to tell us the story of what happened, to her hospice facility.

Angelina, thank you for joining me.

ANGELINA: Hello, again. Thank you so much for having me today.

GLENN: You bet. You bet.

So you -- the hospice society is a public/private partnership with Canada.

You guys raised $8.5 million to build this property. And you negotiated a 25 or 35 million-dollar lease for the property. Right?

Tell me about this.

ANGELINA: Right. So we're a private society. So a 34-year organization.

Palliative care is basically, you take care of people, when they're chronically ill or terminally ill. You take care of them well.

So we fundraised over a couple -- a few years ago, $8 million to open a hospice and a palliative care support center next door. And so we raised that money.

We got a 35-year land lease with the public health authority. We built two buildings. A ten-bed hospice, a 7500 square foot supportive care center, where we did our counseling, all the supportive programs.

And then the service agreement was for operating costs. So every year, they give us $1.4 million, and we built those buildings. We opened them, and we operated our program, at the hospice for ten years.

Everything went fine, until this thing they called, the state euthanasia program called MAID. Right?

GLENN: Maid.

ANGELINA: And then the province basically came to us and said, you will have to start providing euthanasia. You will have to start killing your patients in the hospice. Because you're getting -- you're getting public money, right?

We said, absolutely not. We absolutely will not.

At which point, you're exactly right.

The fascism kicked in. I just call it stone cold communism.

And said, you're not getting any money, if you don't start killing your patients.

So then they cancelled that service agreement.

Which means, that's fine.

Look, we don't need your money. We'll be fine without your money.

Which apparently is the wrong answer.
(laughter)

GLENN: Yeah.

ANGELINA: Then they went after the lease. And we had 25 years left on that land lease, and they cancelled it.

And now, these incidentals like the buildings on them, they just consider those to be some kind of an old shack or fence, and they expropriated. So at the end of the day, they evicted, the organization from our buildings. They expropriated those assets, which were valued at eight and a half million dollars. Kicked us out, and took -- took our stuff.

And then they -- they started to operate our hospice, and they put in the euthanasia.

GLENN: Unbelievable.

They give no money for the buildings. I mean, it was their land, right? That's kind of the public/private partnership. You're taking money from them to run it, but you said to them, we don't need it.

But also, that was -- was that not federal land, that you were on? Or some sort of medical kind of preparedness of Canada.

JASON: It was. Well, it was.

Which is considered to be -- well, it was belonged to the health authority, but it was a registered lease. The titled office with 25 years left.

GLENN: Right. Right.

ANGELINA: So we had a right to be there. And of course to continue on for another 25 years.

But, of course, no, they didn't allow it.

GLENN: So when you went to the court. What did the court say?

ANGELINA: Well, you see, we didn't that get far. Because we went to three very, very prominent lawyers. And they told us straight-up.

You're not going to win.

You understand this, people?

You might walk in with one lawyer. They're going to walk in with 15 lawyers, all funded by the taxpayer.

GLENN: The government. Yeah.

ANGELINA: And you may win the first round. But you will not win -- they will tie it up. And it's called lawfare. They advised us again and again and again, to just move on. Take our punches. Take the licking from the government, and move on.

The important thing for us, was to hold on to our organization.

Because then the euthanasia after this, came for us. To try to take everything.

And we still have assets. But we did lose our bricks and mortar in the moment.

GLENN: That is crazy.

You know, I have described what's happening all around the world. With the -- with the extreme left.

With Islamists.

Not Muslims.

Islamists.

What is happening with the Communists and the fascists, is a death cult. It all seems to revolve around death. They take glee in death.

And Canada is shockingly, in many ways, leading the way on this with MAID.

You don't even know how many people are killed now with MAID a year, do you?

ANGELINA: No. We don't. We do not. I call it a culling. It's a Canadian cull. They're killing the sick people, the mentally ill, the disabled. Veterans. Homeless. The poor.

And then they're going after the children. But we do not know the numbers, exactly. I mean, the government is admitting to 60,000. There's absolutely no way it's 60,000.

I think they forgot a zero.

It's widespread. It's now considered a health care option.

When the doctor comes to a sick and vulnerable patient and saying, how would you just like to die? It's gotten completely out of hand.

It's truly a national horror for Canadians. For certainly people of faith in my country.

Pro-life for my country.

That we have no control over this.

We have no access to authentic true numbers, information.

And this whole consortium, that I call empire MAID has taken over the health care system.

GLENN: What is the -- what's the goal of this?

Do you think?

What's really behind it?

ANGELINA: Certainly. You know, so they want to talk about -- they -- they have captured the moral high ground on this, right?

If you want to be compassionate. You will have to start to kill people.

That's the only way to be compassionate. That's the only way to provide human rights.

So that very potent message, they've been able to roll it to a narrative, which is incredibly horrid.

The word is like -- it aches me. It's overwhelming.

GLENN: Yeah. Right.

ANGELINA: But why? Our public health care system, which is what happens when any government goes completely public. We have no private available.

It is illegal. It's bankrupt. We have --

GLENN: Hold on just a second. I want Americans to hear this.

Private health care, being a doctor and providing private health care is illegal in Canada.

ANGELINA: Yes, it is. The only thing you can do is to have cosmetic things done privately. That's it. You want a boob job, a nose job. You can go ahead, get a doctor and pay for that.

Everything else, it must be administered through the state, period. It has to go up to the Supreme Court of Canada. So this is undisputable.

Private health care is illegal.

GLENN: You know, I look at -- we're -- you have several states that are now trying to pass much of this.

And they are in the laws, that are being passed.

It is -- it is -- it's a requirement not to put assisted suicide down on the death.

So you have cancer.

But you didn't die of cancer.

You had cancer.

You have depression. And the doctors said, well, you can kill yourself over that.

It does not say, assisted suicide.

It is going to be illegal to put that on the death certificates.

It just has to say, depression.

Cancer.

Whatever it is.

That they helped you kill yourself over, that's -- that's what the cause of death is.

So you'll never, ever be able to count it!

You'll never be able to track it!

It is just evil, evil what's happening.

ANGELINA: It's true.

And how many people will be killed by the state? That is going to be the question. You will never know, that you are giving far too much power to the state.

Unaccountable.

Unquestionable.

GLENN: Are you -- are you shocked at the -- because I am here in America.

I mean, we just -- New York just voted for an Islamist who is saying, you know, he is for Hamas.

He is also a communist.

And they just elected him, or, you know, chose him as the Democratic candidate.

And nobody really seems to care!

When it comes to death all over, when you're seeing these things happen, I am shocked by my own citizens! Do you feel that way in Canada?

ANGELINA: Well, I personally am not shocked.

Because I know that the only thing that the socialists and the Communists ever do well, was kill people.

This should not come as a shock to anyone.

The -- the short sightedness unfortunately of a people. Is that they tend to get rewarded in the short term.

They give them stuff, money. Benefits.

It's only crops.

Ultimately, it will -- at the literal demise to allow, this kind of philosophy, political ideology.

To come into your country. Somewhere are you hopeful for the future, Angelina?

ANGELINA: You know, I love my country. To be honest with you, I am not. I am not.

We have seen in my country, an overwhelming immigration. That has come in. Talking about millions of people in a very short time.

That has literally destroyed our infrastructure, brought the health care system, to its knees.

A lot of people in my country, don't even have a family doctor.

They can't find a family doctor. They have to wait for months, upon years for the simplest of procedures.

And it isn't getting any better. So, you know, I pray because, of course, I am a person of faith. And I'm an apologetic Christian.

This is, again, very unpopular in my country.

But, you know, only God will be able to help us.

At this point.

GLENN: Thank you for ending it that way. Angelina, I appreciate it. Thank you for standing up and being vocal, and letting people of the world know that light still does exist, even though the darkness is growing.

Darker, faster. Thank you, Angelina. Appreciate it.

From Canada.

Did the Swamp RUIN the Big Beautiful Bill?

The Senate just sent the “Big Beautiful Bill” back to the House. But Rep. Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck with a warning: This isn’t the same bill President Trump proposed! The Swamp has made sure to cut back on its reforms. But are Trump’s tax cuts too important to fail?

Transcript

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GLENN: Chip Roy is with us from the great state of Texas.

Chip is a congressman, and welcome to the program. How are you, Chip?

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I'm -- you know, I'm continuing to work through, and trying to deliver the American people. But it's getting hard.

I'm with you. I'm tired of this bill right now.

GLENN: Yeah, you're living the dream, brother.

You are just living -- who doesn't want your job?

My gosh, what's -- what -- a glorious. Glorious, fun-filled life you must live.

CHIP: Yeah, there's -- there's been -- no, no, no.

GLENN: So tell me.

Tell me, is this thing gotten better or worse?

CHIP: Unfortunately, Glenn. I believe it's gotten worse.

Now, we've not seen the final product of the Senate. We don't have the tax. We've got to review it.

I try to be level-headed during these things. I had enormously strong and good friends in the administration, who in good faith, want to see this pass. Just as you do. Just as I do, just as the American people do.

They want to see a move forward in legislation to make tax cuts permanent. To deliver on the border funding that we need. You know, Steven Miller is a long-time friend. I've known him 25 years.

Russ Voit is a long-time friend. I've known him for 25 years. We've been working together in the trenches for as long as I can remember. We all want to deliver.

The problem is, the swamp is going to swamp.

And right now, we have a bill, that in my estimation, violates the house framework.

But more importantly, would add significantly to the deficits. Now, we have differing views.

GLENN: More. More than it did. More than it did, right?

CHIP: Quite a bit, in my view.

And look, there is going to be a debate about this. About tax cuts. And revenues. And all the stuff.

And I get it. Baseline. CBO. All these different things. I'm just telling you, Glenn, as objectively as I can, I look at the math, and I look at how you factor in economic growth, which I'm doing. Factor in revenues. And expenditures.

And what we're doing, on mandatory spending.

Which is not enough.

The fact that we're only repealing half of the green new scam, if we're lucky.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Medicaid. To go to illegals. Because of some arcane center rules.

The fact that we're continuing to allow Obamacare subsidies to fund transgender surgeries.

The fact that we're going to -- in my estimation, have probably a couple of trillion of deficit spending in the first four years.

Which means, you will have more interest.

Which means, it's going to stack up, all to get savings, in five years.

That's not what you and I signed up for.

Now, I'm looking at this, trying to say, okay.

The president wants tax cuts. So does I.

The president wants borders, so do I.

I think the president wants us to repeal the entire Green New scam. I think the president wants us to get good reforms. Be careful.

Like handle Medicaid appropriately, and all of that, for our American citizens that depend on it.

But we haven't delivered. Because the Senate has a bunch of people in it, who don't want to deliver, and they are hiding behind the parliamentarian, and they're delivering the product that I didn't come to Washington, to sign up for, Glenn.

GLENN: All right. So let me ask you this. They're hiding behind the parliamentarian.

Is that -- I mean, they -- they say, there was a change in the bill, because of the Medicare paid to the illegals. And the parliamentarian said you have to keep it in there. Some arcane rule or whatever.

Couldn't the Senate Republicans just ignore that?

Is it fair -- what?

CHIP: They could overrule the parliamentarian. They could make a change, if they wanted to do so.

GLENN: Right.

CHIP: Now, some of these things take 60 votes. If they want to address this, they can address it.

But the real issue here is that behind the closed doors, what you know, is that there are senators, who don't want to make the reforms.

Don't want to make the changes. They're making their own policy choices. Based on what they want.

Right? You've got Lisa Murkowski right now. Instead of wanting to reform Medicaid, she wants to get a special carve-out for additional spending, for people in Alaska.

You've got, you know, Tillis. You've got others. They want us to go the wrong direction, when it comes to Medicaid reform.

And, Glenn. I've got to be honest. How many times have you and I been on the phone over the last decade, talking about shutdowns by discretionary spending. Like every two years.

GLENN: Oh, I know.

CHIP: Countless times. Every time we have one of those fights. The people of this town say, Chip, you need to shut up because the real problem is mandatory spending. Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.

It's not fighting over all this stuff. You're wasting all our time.

I didn't think it was a waste of our time.

I didn't think we should be funding weaponized government.

I didn't think we should continue to jack up spending for the alphabet soup of regulations in America.

But I said, okay. Guys, here we are.

We are going to do this reconciliation package. We will reform Medicaid, right? We ended up fighting like cats and dogs to get the reforms, the work requirements we got out of the House. It was good. Not great.

The Senate, now they're working through it. And they are fighting every inch. And it got actually a little better in certain respects, thank to Rick Scott.

He's been fighting hard. Mike Lee, Ron Johnson. We've got a little bit more of what's called provider taxes. But overall, we're not meeting the moment.

We're not getting enough Medicaid reform.

We're getting watered down, somewhat on illegals. How about missed taxes, Glenn?

We passed a measure in the House, to tax money going from America, so people going here illegally back to their own country.

The Senate -- it's crazy!

GLENN: Why? Why? Why?

CHIP: Because they don't like the policies, Glenn. Because here's the thing, there are bankers. Banks. Who came here and said, guys, this would be really hard on us.

If we had to enforce this policy.

Money flowing from our banks and institutions.

Mexico.

And Columbia.

And places. We really need a carve out, so the banks won't be taxed by this, and then they will go.

It would be way too burdensome on the people who come here and they're working hard, and they want to spend money on their families. But you and I both have a heart for what people face. And want to say, hey, I get it. You've got an honest person here, who is following the law, who came here illegally. They want to send money back home to their country. They can still do that. They can still find a way to do that, but we're taxing. Instead of saying, no, we're not going to do it.

But the biggest thing at the end of the day. Deficits go up, and I didn't sign up for deficits to go up.

GLENN: So you're not going to vote for them?

You're not voting for this.

CHIP: I can't. I cannot vote for this as it's currently structured. If we can come to some agreement.

And, Glenn, this is important.

The president rightly wants us to find a way to get a bill up. I get that. And I want to deliver. For six months, I've been busting my butt.

I voted for a bill that came out of the house, that I didn't like. It wasn't good enough. But I thought it was an important step.

I worked to come up with a budget framework with Jerry Harrington and others, to figure out, how to get this done and get it out of the House.

I think we made progress. We did get Medicaid reforms that are good. We did get some tightening down on the green new scam, and others didn't want to do it.

But we are now fighting a Senate that's watering down important stuff.

And importantly, the way they tax to spend policies. Overall, I can't look at this any way objectively, without telling my voters, the people that sent me to Washington to represent them. That the deficits will go up.

Now, last point, the president and the administration will say, look, guys, don't worry about that. We'll make it up with tariffs, and we will pay higher economic growth. Well, two things.

Number one, on the economic growth front, we assumed growth in our bill, Glenn.

We assumed 2.6 percent growth.

Now, you might say, well, gosh, we need three or four. Yeah, but we have to do a ten-year budget. 2.6 percent growth is a lot higher than what we've been experiencing the last two decades on average.

We picked a sweet spot of 2.6 percent growth. It is true, that if we have 4 percent growth for a decade, we will have much more of it.

I hope that's true. You hope that's true.

And if it is true, then great. It's gravy, that will give us money to buy down the debt. And save money. And get the deficits down further.

But I can't budget to two and a half percent. Sitting at 2 percent growth

It would be irresponsible.

GLENN: So I'm with you, Chip. I'm with you. And I've said this for a long time -- the Republicans are going to lose. They are going to lose, and they're going to lose because you're just not delivering for the American people, what you promised you would.

Donald Trump seems to be.

You know, at least he is trying.

He's doing a lot of the things he promised he would do.

I don't see that happening with the Republicans.

And so, you know, I don't know what -- what the midterm is going to look like.

But I will tell you this. He has to have that tax cut passed.

He's got to have it.

If we don't get that tax cut. Everything the Republicans have been trying to do. Or the Republican voters have wanted.

It's over. It's over.

Because the economy will spiral out of control without that tax cut. Agree or disagree?

CHIP: So I agree we must deliver on the tax cut. And I believe we will. When push comes to shove, there's no way we will get to December, and not provide an extension of tax cuts, that were so important in 2017.

Now, I'll remind everybody, the corporate rates were made permanent already.

Right?

What we're talking about dealing with is the expiration of certain personal tax issues. Marginal rate. But also child tax credit. Also standard deduction, et cetera. Now, I'm not sure.

I've got different views, on different ones of those policies.

Overall, we want to ensure, this stays in the pockets of the American people.

We have to deliver on that.

I will tell you this, if we don't address the inflation tax.

If we don't address the extent to which people are fleeing the American bond markets.

Because we are so irresponsible.

Then we're going to be doing a disservice to our kids and grandkids who can't afford a house.

They can't afford a house because the mortgage rates are too high.

GLENN: They can't afford it now, Chip.

They can't afford it now.

CHIP: So I think what we need to do, is I'm prepared to go back to the drawing board today. I want to go home tomorrow, or the next day.
Let's just get busy. We've been working on it.

Let's tighten down some of the spending.
Let's tweak what we've been doing and get the tax policy done. Get it set. Let's go back to the House bill, for example, that we passed.

It was a good, solid bill.

And get the Senate to adopt it, and pass it.

Or make some modest changes. But we have to get rid of some of these ridiculous things. Like Medicaid for illegal aliens, like pork that's going to Alaska.

Like specific giveaways.

And, you know, get rid of those things.

Go back to the House bill.

Make sure the inflation act is getting terminated.

Deliver on the tax cuts. Deliver on the border.

Deliver for the president.

I'm prepared to do that. But I will not swallow a crappy bill because the Senate tries to jam me with it.

GLENN: I have to tell you, I don't know how it's unpopular to say, no. We're not giving illegals any Medicare.

We're not.

Do you remember -- who was it, when we were in Congress. Barack Obama talked about Obamacare. He said, you lie!

Joe Wilson, wasn't it?

And everybody had a cow. Well, look at what we're doing. Look at what we're doing.

Look at what we're giving illegals.

The answer is no.

No, no, no, no. And I don't understand how that is not so simple.

I don't understand any Republican that doesn't understand, the green new deal, no! No!

USAID. No!

DOGE. Cut it. Why can't they see what -- I mean -- there is -- I mean to tell you, Chip. I don't mean to take this out on you. You're one of the good guys. You're trying to do this.

We're in between a rock and a hard place.

The president has to have what the president needs. To get the economy going.

We wait until January. You're right on top of the midterms.

You have -- the president is not turning this economy around, fast enough.

Because he can't get anyone in Congress to do Jack crap on anything!

You need to cut the freaking spending. And the waste. And the garbage.

And I tell you, I am with Elon Musk 100 percent.

100 percent.

You are one of these weasel Republicans, who don't -- who just go along, and just be like, you know what, we're going to have another five or $6 trillion to our debt.

I'm done. I'm done.

And Elon has said, I will -- if it's the last thing I do. I will make sure that none of these people get reelected. That's not going to be good.

That's not going to be good. For the republic.

Let alone, the Republican parties.

But, you know what, I've had enough. I've had enough.

And I think the American people have too.

CHIP: Well, Glenn, I will tell you this, July 4th is obviously Friday, Independence Day. Two hundred forty-nine years ago, and we already celebrated. We celebrate their courage. We celebrate Lexington and Concord.

We celebrate all the things -- we celebrate the men that stormed the beaches in Normandy.

And we celebrate all of the great courage that our men in women in uniform have done to fight in this country. How can I say, no, sorry, I'll have to vote for this bill, because there will be some political pressure.

When I regale the boys at the Alamo, sitting there, taking bullets. Knowing they were going to die.

But ran into a wall of bullets in Normandy.

Look, we have to deliver.

We have no choice. We all agree on that.

I'm sure I'm going to get labeled, you know, a -- any number of things.

That I'm not delivering on the president's agenda, that I'm jamming up a bill. Look, and I get it.

And I won't get defensive about it. The president wants this bill. And he is right to want this bill.

The Congress has to deliver a bill worth sending them. And I'm prepared to stay here, until we do.

But I won't vote for a bill, because I'm told I have to. Because a bunch of losers who are swamp creatures, who want pork and giveaways. Who don't have the cojones to stand up and deliver for the American people. And to actually reduce spending, and not hide behind parliamentaries. Not hide behind tax cuts.

They want to hide behind a tax cut, to tell me at the border, to tell me, you have to vote for this bill. Don't worry about this spending.

No, kiss my ass.

I will stand up and fight for the border and the tax cuts and the spending cuts. We've got to do it!

STU: It was very reminiscent of Daniel Boone there for just a second. Or I'm sorry. Not -- Davey Crockett, not Daniel Boone.

So thank you for that. Chip, God bless. Have a great holiday. Stand -- stand firm in what you believe in.

And just keep the fight. I appreciate the attitude that you have towards the president.

Give the president what he needs. Fight for the president, what he's asking for.

But you got to fight the swamp at the same time. Have to. Have to. Thank you, Chip. Appreciate it.

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