There’s something that MUST be said: America has a price we’re not willing to pay in return for Ukraine’s freedom. We’re not willing to risk U.S. troops or to start a nuclear war. It doesn’t mean we’re not compassionate, Glenn explains…we’re rationally compassionate. And now there’s another huge, potential consequence at play that NO ONE else is talking about: The end of the West's economy. Glenn explains why we must not destroy America — and, specifically, U.S. energy — in the process of stopping Putin and Russia. So, until our current leaders start opening up our own oil reserves, we might be able to help Ukraine. But we cannot save them.
Below is a rush transcript that may contain errors
STU: So you went through a lot of the detail, of what you see coming here, in the last segment.
STU: But take out the detail for a second. To boil your theory down here. Oil is going to spike to levels that are incredibly damaging to our economy.
STU: And because of that, we are going to continue to buy Russian oil. Maybe try to buy Iranian oil.
GLENN: We're negotiating with them, right freaking now. The Iranians.
PAT: That's insane.
GLENN: And, by the way, it's not damaging our economy. It is the likely depression that we will go into, and possibly the end of the West. Because of economic catastrophe. That is coming our way.
STU: But other than that.
GLENN: But other than that. So listen, I know everybody is -- I feel the same way. You know me. This audience, at least knows me.
You know. I mean, I see the suffering in Ukraine. And the Ukrainian eyes. I see the decency of those people. I see the willingness to be free. Nobody is standing up for freedom anymore.
We -- we're the last hope of the world!
I don't want those people to suffer, and I don't want Putin to win. You cannot teach him that lesson.
But let's have the real conversation here. The one that no one is having. We have already set a price on helping the Ukrainian people.
Have we not? For instance --
PAT: Yes. We're not willing to spend American lives.
GLENN: Correct. Are you willing to go in -- now, ask yourself this question?
Are you willing to go in with troops, full force for the Ukrainian people?
PAT: No. Nope.
STU: Yeah. We've said no to that. We've even said no to a no-fly zone.
PAT: I don't know that any Americans want to do that. I haven't heard any Americans advocating for that.
GLENN: All right. So we've already established what we are. We're just haggling on price. Okay? That's the truth.
PAT: That is the truth.
GLENN: We are haggling on price. And we say American blood. And, quite honestly, treasure and security. Because of all the risks on that. We've already said no.
PAT: We've just done it too much. As it does.
STU: That's not just American lives. And we don't want to get into a war with Russia. That's not just American lives.
PAT: You're talking Armageddon.
STU: That's Armageddon. That's end of the world type stuff.
GLENN: So, again, if you believe any of that. Or for your own reason. Whatever your reason is. If you're saying, no, I'm not willing to send troops over there. You've had -- you've said, there's a price to that freedom. Okay?
PAT: Right. Yeah.
GLENN: So that makes you not compassionate. If you believe that, that makes you already, in the eyes of some.
GLENN: Me too.
Not compassionate. How can you say that, when the suffering is going on?
So that takes that argument off the table. Take that emotional argument off the table. You mean you're not willing to do everything to save these people?
No. Clearly as a country, we're not. Because we won't send our own troops in to help them. Okay?
So enough of the bullcrap of the emotional side. Now, let me ask you. We've already had one price established. You are not willing to send in troops. U.S. troops. Into Ukraine.
That's price number one.
Here's the other option, that we are now going down, without having the conversation.
Are you willing to -- within a year, face a depression, a depression.
And possibly, the complete destruction of the western economy.
Food crisis, like we haven't seen since the Dust Bowl.
Are you willing to pay that price? Possibly, you lose your job. You lose your money.
And your family is struggling for food.
And energy prices, that make it so you cannot really afford any gas. Because it's $8 a gallon. And I'm not talking about California. I'm talking about everywhere.
Are you willing to pay that price? For the people of Ukraine?
I know this sounds horrible. But it has to be said.
Are you willing to go through that?
STU: Well, we're --
PAT: But what brings that on?
GLENN: Hang on just answer the question here.
PAT: Yeah. No. No.
STU: We -- you know, we are obviously have to prioritize our own people. Right?
STU: And so we do not have -- we're not part of NATO. They're not part of NATO. They don't have an agreement to defend them. We can help they believe defend themselves. That's what I think their role is here. If there is one.
GLENN: If you're conservative, the answer is very easy for you. Because you believe in the lifeboat theory.
You -- it was horrible. But you had to -- if you were the Titanic, and you were in a lifeboat, now, this isn't the same necessarily, if there were three people in the lifeboat.
But if you were in a lifeboat, and it was -- and it was filled, you can't go back and get more people. No matter -- you're listening.
There are screams. And it is horrible. And everyone will drown. That's why we believe in border security.
We can't help the rest of the world, if we drown. Because everybody is coming here.
GLENN: Okay. So it sounds like it's not compassionate. But it is rational compassion. Okay?
You can't kill yourself, trying to help somebody else.
STU: And it's not as if we're not doing anything here. We're doing a lot.
GLENN: Okay. Here's what brings this on, Pat.
The world revolves -- the entire -- we learned this in 2008. The world revolves around 100-dollar a barrel oil.
It can handle spikes. It can handle 120.
As long as there's an end to that. You know what I mean?
But the -- the --
PAT: As long as it comes back down to 60. Or 40.
GLENN: Yeah. So the -- so the collapse in '08. The last straw to break the camel's back. And let me ask you this question: Do you think we're stronger today, than we were in 2008?
GLENN: Do you? Okay.
So the straw that broke the camel's back on our economy in 2008, they say -- and I believe, would have tanked the western banks and economic system entirely.
That price, was $140 a barrel.
Sustained for how long? A few weeks? A couple weeks
PAT: Yeah. Not very long.
STU: A couple weeks, yeah.
GLENN: We -- by cutting off oil, right now. And remember, we're all saying, we have to really hit them.
We're already at $120 a barrel. Okay?
Already at $120 a barrel.
And we are currently negotiating with Iran, to supply the world with the 10 percent of oil, the oil needs.
Let me ask you this question: Who is more dangerous to the American homeland. The American people. The American way of life. Vladimir Putin, or Iran?
STU: I think you believe it's Iran.
GLENN: A. Let me rephrase it. A fully financed Aruba.
STU: Over a long period of time, I think you would -- you may turn the tables to Iran. But with 13,000 nuclear weapons, I still think Vladimir Putin is a bigger risk.
GLENN: I agree. I agree. A bigger risk. But he is -- he has not been hell-bent on wiping out the American way of life. We have had him in a cage.
Now, lately -- don't know.
STU: And this is the question. Have you turned over a new leaf?
PAT: That's what everybody is saying. This is not the Putin of five years ago. You keep hearing that.
GLENN: Okay. So let's say you cut off all their oil.
And maybe Russia collapses.
But we don't take Putin out. It's just a disaster. Nobody has -- nobody has any money.
We've collapsed the banking system. You still have Putin in Russia. And you have a richer ayatollah in Iran. And you have the western world, begging them for oil.
This is not a good scenario.
We haven't made anything better by that, okay?
GLENN: We just have to have the discussion here. Because everybody is pushing for crazy things.
They're pushing for let's do no-fly zone. Are you out of your mind?
That could end in nuclear war.
To save the Iranian people. Are you willing to be in a war where one nuclear missile is launched against the United States?
STU: Oh, God no. Nuclear missiles. No.
GLENN: Yes. No.
GLENN: So are you willing to fight for them, and do a no-fly zone?
If one missile is launched to Poland. No. It doesn't matter. Right?
One missile launched to -- to Russia. In Moscow. No.
The answer is no. We don't want nuclear war.
Let's start looking at the actual consequences. And stop looking at it, like fat Americans, who are like, we control the world. We have all the power. We don't anymore. That has changed. It can change. I will listen now. Now that I'm looking at what's happening, and I've figured out that missing piece, remember I'm like, wait a minute.
Something is wrong.
What's wrong is, it's a trap. You are dealing with Marxist revolutionaries, that are running this country, right now.
They want to collapse it, for their own Marxist reasons.
But you also have The Great Reset, that wants a collapse so they can reset, have it collapse, right into their arms.
You have forces inside the house. Wanting this collapse.
So are we going to go along with it? The only way -- the only thing we should be saying is, open up the oil fields and the gas lines here in America.
GLENN: You cannot do these kinds of sanctions, and sheave yourself at the same time. We are empowering -- we are empowering China.
Who is the winner in this?
You look at -- who we're empowering in the Middle East.
Because of some F-ing idea, that we're going to get off all petroleum, to help heal the planet.
There will be nothing left of the American and the western society.
Unless you open up not the strategic reserves. That's the craziest thing I've heard. You're on the brink of World War III. And you want to take our military, strategic oil reserves, and just pass it out, so we can go to the movies.
PAT: So we can have an extra two days.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
PAT: It looks like two days.
STU: I mean, it's not even a good idea, when normal times are going on. But when you're in a situation, where war is already breaking out.
And we have allies, one border away, from where missiles are flying. That's an insane idea.
GLENN: So I want the Ukrainian people to know, I am with you. I am with you.
I would collapse Russia, and Iran. So fast, with oil. If we weren't killing ourself.
But I'm sorry, Ukraine. Until the people in this country stand up and absolutely at the gates of the White House, demand that we open up our own reserves. We cannot help you.
We cannot help you.
STU: What does that mean, you can't help? What do you mean, we're going to do nothing? We're already doing stuff.
GLENN: We're on the road to destruction.
STU: But the issue with help in Ukraine. You're right. Compassion is compassion. And I love compassion.
GLENN: You can't shut down all of Russia's oil. I know. It drives me crazy.
But listen. I was for shutting down Russia's oil.
I had been for it. But now, when I see, the missing piece. Something is wrong. Something is wrong.
Here's what's wrong. It's a trap!
That's what's wrong. We cannot do that. We can supply them with arms. We can supply them with food. We can send over doctors. Whatever they need, we can do that.
But we cannot collapse ourself, and put ourselves in their position.
Ready for God knows who. Iran, or China.
Just to take it all.
This government is not on the right side. And when I say that, I don't mean the Iranian -- Ukrainian people. What I mean, is that they're on the wrong side of the American people.
Until they secure us first, no.