RADIOSeptember 27, 2023

Judge tries to take down Trump with RIDICULOUS Mar-a-Lago ruling

A New York court has ruled that former president Donald Trump and some of his children have committed fraud for years, in part by inflating the value of Trump's properties. But Glenn has his doubts about the judge's ruling, specifically because he ruled that Mar-A-Lago is only worth $18 million. Glenn and Stu compare that ridiculous Mar-a-Lago ruling to the prices of much smaller and way less historic houses and condos in the Palm Beach area — and it only makes it more obvious that this is just another attempt to take down Trump.

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GLENN: A New York court ruled Tuesday. Boy, I have to tell you.

If I were in New York, or I were in Washington, DC, or any of these blue states, I would be thinking, I should probably leave here.

Because I don't think I can get a fair trial.

New York court ruled Tuesday, that former President Donald Trump had committed fraud for years, to build his fortune.

New York judge Arthur Engoron, ruled in a civil case, brought by New York Attorney General James.

Now, this is the one that was like, I'm going to get him! I'm going to get him!

So --

STU: That's what she ran.

GLENN: That's what she ran on.

Not the little dog as well. But she did run --

STU: She didn't specify the size of the dog. That's true.

GLENN: That's exactly right. Okay.

So the -- the court system, and the -- the DA decided, not to prosecute. Okay?

They decided --

STU: Alvin brag.

GLENN: Yeah. Alvin brag. They decided not to prosecute.

Police, the southern district of energetic. FBI. No one took this on. Because they didn't think there was anything there.

So she decides to go to civil court, to take them on.

Now she found a judge, that will say, that he engaged in fraud.

Now, do I think that Donald Trump inflated numbers of his wealth?

Yes. Yes. I do.

STU: Really? Now, what evidence do you have?

GLENN: Well, everything. Pretty much everything.

STU: Now, it's totally fine to do that publicly. Totally fine is not the right. It's not illegal to say you have $10 billion. When you have $2 billion. Whatever.

I'm not saying that's what he did.

You can say that. You can say, you're the wealthiest person in the world. When you're not publicly, at a press conference. And there's no crime being committed.

GLENN: But I will tell you, if you're misstating things intentionally.

That is called fraud.

STU: Especially when you do it on documents, over and over and over again to banks. And insurance companies.

GLENN: Now, I don't know about you. But I've never lied on my banking statements when I go to get a loan. Because they generally check those things out.

STU: I would be terrified to do so.

GLENN: Right. Right.

STU: Now, you have the reputation.

And, again, I don't know if this was Trump specifically. This was about his organization.

It could be one of his other executives doing it.

It does seem like it was done often

When you're Donald Trump, you have a reputation of being Donald Trump. Being very wealthy. Everything is the most grandiose thing in the world. There's probably not much questioning. Right?

GLENN: Really? They will give you a $250 million loan and not check it out?

STU: Are they going to check out the square footage of his apartment?

Probably not, right?

GLENN: So -- so -- so the judge said yesterday, that Mar-a-Lago -- he overstated the price.

STU: Just a tad.

GLENN: Just a tad. He said, it's worth $18 million.

STU: I think it was the other way around. He said it was worth more for this particular.

GLENN: No. No. No.

The judge said it was only worth 18 million.

STU: Okay.

It was he --

GLENN: Yeah. No Trump said --

STU: 700 million, I think.

GLENN: Yeah. And he did put probably $100 million into that place.

And it is also a legacy property.

I mean, it's not going for $18 million.

STU: Now, I'm going to say, neither one may be correct. If I were to say, which one is closer to its actual value. I would say, $700 million.

GLENN: I would too.

I mean, it could be worth 200, 300, 500 million. It's not worth 25 million, or 7 million. There's no way.

STU: Right. No! There's no way. How many square feet, is it?

GLENN: I don't even know.

It's this entire peninsula, that goes out of this land bridge, in west palm. I don't know if you can get an apartment for $80 million. Right on the water. Both sides.

STU: Right. A normal 4,000 square foot house, which I would assume is pretty small, right?

For West Palm Beach, but probably like, the average McMansion in Florida is 4,000.

GLENN: Maybe. Maybe.

STU: I'm just guestimating here. But a 4,000 square foot house in West Palm Beach is already, got to be, 4 million, $5 million.

GLENN: Go to realtor.com. Find out.

STU: There you go. By the way, 126 rooms. He took down to 500 square feet at Mar-a-Lago. And it's a business.

GLENN: All right. 62,000 square feet. Okay.

With both sides on the ocean. This has and golf courses. Right?

GLENN: Yeah.

And it's -- it's got a banquet room.

It is -- I mean, it's crazy.

STU: Could you convince me it's only worth 300 million.

Yeah. Maybe. But it's not worth 18.

GLENN: So this is a 50-year-old movie studio. Okay?

Fifty-year-old movie studio.

I mean, it is a historic site in Texas now, but it's not like Mar-a-Lago.

STU: No. The one we're sitting in right now.

GLENN: The one we're sitting in right now. It's maybe worth $50 million. Okay? $50 million. You're telling me, I could have had Mar-a-Lago.

I think I would have taken Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Did they really say $18 million is the right number?

GLENN: That's what the judge said, $18 million.

STU: And that's completely absurd. What year were they talking about?

In 1945, maybe it's worth $18 million.

GLENN: It's crazy.

STU: That's really, legitimately nuts.

West Palm Beach is one of the most expensive areas in the entire country.

It is obviously like, this is a place where super wealthy people run away from other wealthy people.

When they're annoyed with low class wealthy people, they go to west Palm Beach.

GLENN: Right. So let me go to any price listing. Where can I get rooms -- I mean, I could get from high to low.

It doesn't necessarily do that. That's ridiculous. High to low.

STU: I love how Glenn's head is attempting tasks. This is how it will work.

GLENN: Thank you. I will put a minimum of 5 million. $5 million is the minimum I want to see.

Okay. So let's -- all right.

So I have a three-bedroom. Three and a half bath for 7.8 million. That's a condo overlooking, okay?

I have another condo for 6.1.

STU: Do they have the footage listed or no?

GLENN: Yeah. 2000 square feet.

STU: 2000 square feet. And how many millions --

GLENN: 6.1.

STU: But you can get Mar-a-Lago for three times the cost? Wow.

GLENN: Yeah. I have a 1-acre lot. Okay?

It has -- it shows a picture of the house. But I have a feeling, the house is so horrible.

You know how they do that. Look at this. And they're selling it as a lot, and not a house.

8.4. A 1 acre lot. How many acres is Mar-a-Lago.

STU: That's a good question.

GLENN: A lot.

STU: It was 1980. The cost.

Let's see. Looking here. 17-acre state.

That's the federal foundation.

Yeah. It's hard to -- looks like 17 acres.

But there's a 3.2-acre plot. Which has nothing on it. It's just grass.

Currently listed for $200 million. It is -- it is a --

GLENN: Oh, yeah.

STU: It's a very nice plot of land.

GLENN: Right.

STU: However, you know, you wouldn't think that just land would be 240 -- they haven't sold it yet.

It could be one of those e Bay things where it hasn't sold.

GLENN: Where I have a five-bedroom, five and a half bath, five thousand square feet, and half an acre.

STU: Okay. So this is what you might throw at, as a McMansion. Right? A very nice, big house. Not a ton of land.

GLENN: Right. A half an acre.

STU: The house fits, but barely.

GLENN: Uh-huh. Yes.

STU: How much are they asking for that?

GLENN: 11.9.

I'm -- I'm just saying.

STU: It's an expensive area.

GLENN: There's a condo here for five thousands of individuals square feet. Four bedroom. Five and a half bath. No land.

8.4. There is a condo. Six bedroom condo.

Six bedroom, seven and a half bath. 9,232 square feet.

And that's 39 million.

STU: I mean, come on. The claim is that the Palm Beach county assessor had appraised Mar-a-Lago between 18 million and 27.6 million.

Now, the assessors a lot of times, have strange values on homes, right? Have you ever noticed that? Again, you're not doing this yourself.

You're looking at someone else, assessing your home.

And it doesn't always align with what Zillow says.

So that would necessarily be fraud. You have to believe, it's much, much closer -- I mean, $426.5 for Mar-a-Lago, which was their low -- low end value that Trump had put it at.

GLENN: Is reasonable. Reasonable.

STU: Seems reasonable. Again, I've never bought anything in the nine figures. Never made a 9-figure purchase.

GLENN: Really?

STU: But I would assume.

GLENN: I make them all the time.

STU: Yeah, you might make them all the time. I'm trying to -- you have to understand. I'm saying to the audience, you have to understand. So the audience understands. Trying to get Glenn to understand, not everyone makes -- you know, a nine-figure purchase, look, the difference between 100 and 400 million for the average person. Might be difficult to -- how would you even figure that out, without going to some expert?

I have to believe, just back at the envelope. $400 million seems pretty reasonable for Mar-a-Lago. It's probably around where it is.

It couldn't possibly be 18 million. That is bonkers!

And anyone who knows anything about real estate would say that.

Yet, everybody in the media, I have heard talk about this story, as quoted in the overstatement of 2300 percent -- from -- from Letitia James.

Which is kind of -- it's bonkers.

GLENN: So, anyway, they are breaking his companies up now. The -- the court has taken control.

And has assigned people to take over the company. And break it apart.

And I don't know. Sell the assets off. I guess that's what you do.

If anybody is in the -- in the market for a really huge, really huge house, that also has beachfront property on both sides of it, you might be able to get a deal soon.

STU: Well, this is a no longer based ruling. What is in danger, are his New York properties.

Which is the gulf in Westchester. Trump Tower.

GLENN: It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

STU: They're really going after all of it. And trying to get him to force his control to be gone.

Eric is the one to run the company right now. And he would be out.

GLENN: This is why we have always, always done well, in America.

Because you could count automate law to be consistent.

Nobody -- in my lifetime, I never heard, you know, stories, day after day. Where I went, wow. Never heard that done before.

Never. And that's why people invested in America.

That's why companies were built here in America. Because somebody just couldn't take it away from you.

STU: That's why you don't want to do business in Venezuela.

GLENN: Exactly right.

They can take it away. They can accuse you of something, and take it away.

And the law did not really matter. The law was just a player, in somebody's curio cabinet.

And that's exactly what's happening now in America. You want to destroy somebody.

No, you can destroy them. Destroy their whole life.

It's really sick.

Could passengers have SAVED Iryna Zarutska?

Surveillance footage of the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, NC, reveals that the other passengers on the train took a long time to help her. Glenn, Stu, and Jason debate whether they were right or wrong to do so.

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GLENN: You know, I'm -- I'm torn on how I feel about the people on the train.

Because my first instinct is, they did nothing! They did nothing! Then my -- well, sit down and, you know -- you know, you're going to be judged. So be careful on judging others.

What would I have done? What would I want my wife to do in that situation?

STU: Yeah. Are those two different questions, by the way.

GLENN: Yeah, they are.

STU: I think they go far apart from each other. What would I want myself to do. I mean, it's tough to put yourself in a situation. It's very easy to watch a video on the internet and talk about your heroism. Everybody can do that very easily on Twitter. And everybody is.

You know, when you're in a vehicle that doesn't have an exit with a guy who just murdered somebody in front of you, and has a dripping blood off of a knife that's standing 10 feet away from you, 15 feet away from you.

There's probably a different standard there, that we should all kind of consider. And maybe give a little grace to what I saw at least was a woman, sitting across the -- the -- the aisle.

I think there is a difference there. But when you talk about that question. Those two questions are definitive.

You know, I know what I would want myself to do. I would hope I would act in a way that didn't completely embarrass myself afterward.

But I also think, when I'm thinking of my wife. My advice to my wife would not be to jump into the middle of that situation at all costs. She might do that anyway. She actually is a heck of a lot stronger than I am.

But she might do it anyway.

GLENN: How pathetic, but how true.

STU: Yes. But that would not be my advice to her.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

STU: Now, maybe once the guy has certainly -- is out of the area. And you don't think the moment you step into that situation. He will turn around and kill you too. Then, of course, obviously. Anything you can do to step in.

Not that there was much anyone on the train could do.

I mean, I don't think there was an outcome change, no matter what anyone on that train did.

Unfortunately.

But would I want her to step in?

Of course. If she felt she was safe, yes.

Think about, you said, your wife. Think about your daughter. Your daughter is on that train, just watching someone else getting murdered like that. Would you advise your daughter to jump into a situation like that?

That girl sitting across the aisle was somebody's daughter. I don't know, man.

JASON: I would. You know, as a dad, would I advise.

Hmm. No.

As a human being, would I hope that my daughter or my wife or that I would get up and at least comfort that woman while she's dying on the floor of a train?

Yeah.

I would hope that my daughter, my son, that I would -- and, you know, I have more confidence in my son or daughter or my wife doing something courageous more than I would.

But, you know, I think I have a more realistic picture of myself than anybody else.

And I'm not sure that -- I'm not sure what I would do in that situation. I know what I would hope I would do. But I also know what I fear I would do. But I would have hoped that I would have gotten up and at least tried to help her. You know, help her up off the floor. At least be there with her, as she's seeing her life, you know, spill out in under a minute.

And that's it other thing we have to keep in mind. This all happened so rapidly.

A minute is -- will seem like a very long period of time in that situation. But it's a very short period of time in real life.

STU: Yeah. You watch the video, Glenn. You know, I don't need the video to -- to change my -- my position on this.

But at his seem like there was a -- someone who did get there, eventually, to help, right? I saw someone seemingly trying to put pressure on her neck.

GLENN: Yeah. And tried to give her CPR.

STU: You know, no hope at that point. How long of a time period would you say that was?

Do you know off the top of your head?

GLENN: I don't know. I don't know. I know that we watched the video that I saw. I haven't seen past 30 seconds after she --

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: -- is down. And, you know, for 30 seconds nothing is happening. You know, that is -- that is not a very long period of time.

STU: Right.

GLENN: In reality.

STU: And especially, I saw the pace he was walking. He certainly can't be -- you know, he may have left the actual train car by 30 seconds to a minute. But he wasn't that far away. Like he was still in visual.

He could still turn around and look and see what's going on at that point. So certainly still a threat is my point. He has not, like, left the area. This is not that type of situation.

You know, I -- look, as you point out, I think if I could be super duper sexist for a moment here, sort of my dividing line might just be men and women.

You know, I don't know if it's that a -- you're not supposed to say that, I suppose these days. But, like, there is a difference there. If I'm a man, you know, I would be -- I would want my son to jump in on that, I suppose. I don't know if he could do anything about it. But you would expect at least a grown man to be able to go in there and do something about it. A woman, you know, I don't know.

Maybe I'm -- I hope --

GLENN: Here's the thing I -- here's the thing that I -- that causes me to say, no. You should have jumped in.

And that is, you know, you've already killed one person on the train. So you've proven that you're a killer. And anybody who would have screamed and got up and was with her, she's dying. She's dying. Get him. Get him.

Then the whole train is responsible for stopping that guy. You know. And if you don't stop him, after he's killed one person, if you're not all as members of that train, if you're not stopping him, you know, the person at the side of that girl would be the least likely to be killed. It would be the ones that are standing you up and trying to stop him from getting back to your daughter or your wife or you.

JASON: There was a -- speaking of men and women and their roles in this. There was a video circling social media yesterday. In Sweden. There was a group of officials up on a stage. And one of the main. I think it was health official woman collapses on stage. Completely passes out.

All the men kind of look away. Or I don't know if they're looking away. Or pretending that they didn't know what was going on. There was another woman standing directly behind the woman passed out.

Immediately springs into action. Jumps on top. Grabs her pant leg. Grabs her shoulder. Spins her over and starts providing care.

What did she have that the other guys did not? Or women?

She was a sheepdog. There is a -- this is my issue. And I completely agree with Stu. I completely agree with you. There's some people that do not respond this way. My issue is the proportion of sheepdogs versus people that don't really know how to act. That is diminishing in western society. And American society.

We see it all the time in these critical actions. I mean, circumstances.

There are men and women, and it's actually a meme. That fantasize about hoards of people coming to attack their home and family. And they sit there and say, I've got it. You guys go. I'm staying behind, while I smoke my cigarette and wait for the hoards to come, because I will sacrifice myself. There are men and women that fantasize of block my highway. Go ahead. Block my highway. I'm going to do something about it. They fantasize about someone holding up -- not a liquor store. A convenience store or something. Because they will step in and do something. My issue now is that proportion of sheepdogs in society is disappearing. Just on statistical fact, there should be one within that train car, and there were none.

STU: Yeah. I mean --

JASON: They did not respond.

STU: We see what happens when they do, with Daniel Penny. Our society tries to vilify them and crush their existence. Now, there weren't that many people on that train. Right?

At least on that car. At least it's limited. I only saw three or four people there, there may have been more. I agree with you, though. Like, you see what happens when we actually do have a really recent example of someone doing exactly what Jason wants and what I would want a guy to do. Especially a marine to step up and stop this from happening. And the man was dragged by our legal system to a position where he nearly had to spend the rest of his life in prison.

I mean, I -- it's insanity. Thankfully, they came to their senses on that one.

GLENN: Well, the difference between that one and this one though is that the guy was threatening. This one, he killed somebody.

STU: Yeah. Right. Well, but -- I think -- but it's the opposite way. The debate with Penny, was should he have recognize that had this person might have just been crazy and not done anything?

Maybe. He hadn't actually acted yet. He was just saying things.

GLENN: Yeah. Well --

STU: He didn't wind up stabbing someone. This is a situation where these people have already seen what this man will do to you, even when you don't do anything to try to stop him. So if this woman, who is, again, looks to be an average American woman.

Across the aisle. Steps in and tries to do something. This guy could easily turn around and just make another pile of dead bodies next to the one that already exists.

And, you know, whether that is an optimal solution for our society, I don't know that that's helpful.

In that situation.

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Max Lucado on Overcoming Grief in Dark Times | The Glenn Beck Podcast | Ep 266

Disclaimer: This episode was filmed prior to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. But Glenn believes Max's message is needed now more than ever.
The political world is divided, constantly at war with itself. In many ways, our own lives are not much different. Why do we constantly focus on the negative? Why are we in pain? Where is God amid our anxiety and fear? Why can’t we ever seem to change? Pastor Max Lucado has found the solution: Stop thinking like that! It may seem easier said than done, but Max joins Glenn Beck to unpack the three tools he describes in his new book, “Tame Your Thoughts,” that make it easy for us to reset the way we think back to God’s factory settings. In this much-needed conversation, Max and Glenn tackle everything from feeling doubt as a parent to facing unfair hardships to ... UFOs?! Plus, Max shares what he recently got tattooed on his arm.

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Are Demonic Forces to Blame for Charlie Kirk, Minnesota & Charlotte Killings?

This week has seen some of the most heinous actions in recent memory. Glenn has been discussing the growth of evil in our society, and with the assassination of civil rights leader Charlie Kirk, the recent transgender shooter who took the lives of two children at a Catholic school, and the murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska, how can we make sense of all this evil? On today's Friday Exclusive, Glenn speaks with BlazeTV host of "Strange Encounters" Rick Burgess to discuss the demon-possessed transgender shooter and the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. Rick breaks down the reality of demon possession and how individuals wind up possessed. Rick and Glenn also discuss the dangers of the grotesque things we see online and in movies, TV shows, and video games on a daily basis. Rick warns that when we allow our minds to be altered by substances like drugs or alcohol, it opens a door for the enemy to take control. A supernatural war is waging in our society, and it’s a Christian’s job to fight this war. Glenn and Rick remind Christians of what their first citizenship is.