RADIONovember 13, 2023

Kirk Cameron: Parents MUST KNOW what Scholastic Book Fairs are FORCING on kids

For decades, the Scholastic Book Fair has been a staple in a child's educational experience. Parents have always seen it as a safe and fun way to get kids excited about reading. But now, like many other once-trusted parts of society, the Scholastic Book Fair has embraced wokeism and become a "wolf in grandma's clothing." The Scholastic Book Fair is no longer a safe place to send your kids, warns actor and producer Kirk Cameron. He joins Glenn to expose the kind of inappropriate and propagandistic material that the Scholastic Book Fair is now pushing on our children. But Cameron also brings an alternative. He is now helping launch SkyTree Book Fairs, a non-profit organization dedicated to nurturing childhood innocence and character through book fairs that inspire the imagination while upholding the truth — and your kids' school can hold one.

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GLENN: We welcome back to the program. Good friend, actor, producer. And dare I say it, activist. Kirk Cameron.

I know, that's a bad word, isn't it?

KIRK: I've been given worse words. I got to keep labels nowadays.

GLENN: But you really kind of.

I think we all have, if you care about what is going on in the country, you can't sit around anymore.

KIRK: No. I think those days are over.

Because there are on the other sides who are not sitting around. They are reformers. They are not sitting on the couch, watching CNN, or Fox, sort of crying about a Republican conservative Christian win here or there.

They're saying, we have a ground it became. And we're relentless. And we're not going to stop. And I think we can learn a lot of lessons from them.

GLENN: Yeah. Scholastic. Scholastic. They have had their book fairs for years.

KIRK: Or 100 years.

GLENN: And we've all grown to trust that brand, as Disney.

And they've kind of gone the way of Disney, haven't they?

KIRK: That's right. That -- that's right.

They are now controllers in part of the woke matrix. And they are so massively influential. Have you ever wondered, when I watch these videos of moms in school boards, screaming and yelling about this sexually explicit content. This nudity, this pornography, coming down to elementary school kids. Where does this stuff come from?

Is it the board members? Is it the librarian who is into this weird stuff?

No.

There's a wolf in grandma's clothing. To use the Little Red Riding metaphor.

And that wolf, we have discovered, is the world's largest publisher and distributer of children's books, which is scholastic.

They're a billion dollar company. Around for over 100 years. They have over 100,000 book fairs across the country. Hundreds every single day, in public and private schools.

And the books are increasingly laced with gender-confusing race-infused. Pornographic. Sexually explicit material.

That you can't even advertise on Facebook. The conservative Christian conglomerate meta. Is even saying, you can't show that stuff.

And those are adult standards. That's not even pointing out the fact that these are images and content for minors.

GLENN: Honestly how is this even legal or possible?

What was the state that just passed the law, if you can't say it on FCC-regulated airways, you can't use it in schools. And I don't understand it.

When these school boards will sit there and say -- as parents, will angrily read a book that their kids brought home.

And they will say, that's not appropriate. What do you mean it's not appropriate?

We're all adults.

GLENN: Exactly. And Glenn and Stu. I want you to know. That I'm not using hyperbole here.

I didn't believe this, until I bought the books. And I read them myself.

I'm holding them up here.

We have welcome to St. Hell.

We have stars in their eyes. Rick, Melissa, George.

All sorts of books. And in there, is literally instruction manuals for preteen children on how to have sex as another gender.

And how to turn your female tiny sexy organ into very own two-inch Willie. By injecting yourself with hormones. You have underage drinking. Clothes off in bed.

You have scars from top surgery breast removal. Pictures. Drawings. Cartoons.

GLENN: Made for what age?

KIRK: These are for eight to 12. Then it goes younger, when it gets into books like Julianne is a mermaid. Where you have a grandmother what can only be described by me as grooming her grandson to explore the world of drag.

These are for little kids. These are like kindergarten, first grade stuff.

STU: Oh, gosh.

GLENN: So you're now talking about studies from the United States government, that reveal, that you expose children to sexual material early.

You increase their odds of being victimized.

Of going --

GLENN: -- you know all of this.

DOM: If you're a parent. You know all of this stuff. And the fact that there are federal laws, prohibiting the distribution of pornographic and obscene material for minors, because it's harmful to them.

Doesn't go away, when you put it into books like this. And say they're educational. It doesn't make it any less obscene or harmful. So we have to wake up.

And not just, frankly, yell at the school board. They're heavily invested. They haven't read every book in the library. And the books are laced.

It's like -- you get Halloween candy that's laced with fentanyl. You don't necessarily know that it's there.

But scholastic is lacing their books with obscene material in the middle of the pages with benign-looking covers, so they don't even know it's there.

So what we need to do is say, now that we know, now that we're exposing, let's start dealing with the school board. Say, mom and dad, what are you doing? Why are you dropping your kids seven hours a day to be indoctrinated by these people?

Don't you know that the whole point of this is to separate you from your children?

You sexualize children, you drive a wedge between you and them. And they will go down roads, because of their natural curiosity, and their impressionable minds. With teachers who are pushing this stuff. And scholastic former CEO is saying, we are committed to putting more and more of this material. In more and more channels as we possibly can.

In fact, they apologize to the leftist organizations, when they pulled back a little bit. In some of these book fairs. And put these LGBTQ obscene other type -- put it off to the side. And an optional product you can order. No. They wanted it mainstream, front and center. So they apologized and doubled down on their efforts. This is Scholastic, the thousand-pound gorilla in this space.

GLENN: So what are you doing? Because you have been great in libraries. You are on this.

STU: Allowing you in libraries now?

I thought that was your thing?

GLENN: They're so inclusive. They don't let me in the front door.

KIRK: You can get in. Because this is America. And there are many, many libraries, that want us to come. So we have two things. I'm doing sort of -- as a proposed solution to this horrible wolf in grandma's clothing.

One, we have created a PDF, so that parents can download the PDF and see everything that I'm talking about.

Page. Book number. Author biographies. All of this stuff.

You can show it to your fellow parents in the school. Show it to your principle. Show it to your librarians and school board members. Make them aware of what's going on.

And then, don't just stick it to them to figure it out.

We have actually created a nonprofit. It was started by a concerned mother. Called Sky Tree book fairs. You can replace these harmful scholastic book fairs with helpful, wholesome book fairs. With 500 books that have all been vetted and screened to take out all the nasty pornography. And the race theory. And the race stuff.

And they're about wholesome, good values. And we already have over 700 public and private schools. That have already begun the process of replacing scholastic with Sky Tree Book Fairs.

And the first one is coming up next month, in Spotsylvania, Virginia. First one, public school. Superintendent of the district is so excited about this.

They have gotten rid of scholastic. They are putting sky treatment fairs.

GLENN: This is a public school. Yes. How are they getting away with that?

KIRK: Yes. Oh, because they can. They can choose what book fairs they want or don't want.

The reason why so many private schools go with Scholastic is, A, they're trusted. Right? You think it's grandma. You think it's grandma. You don't know that grandma was eaten up by the wolf. And now he's dressed in this trusted clothing called Scholastic. B, the schools actually get money from the books that are sold at the book fairs. Right? There's a percentage that goes back to the school.

So there -- that's part of their budget.

GLENN: Does that happen with the Sky Tree books?

KIRK: That's a good question. I believe it does. I believe they get funds that come to them, to invest in more books like this, and more programs that reinforce these values back to the other.

GLENN: So first of all, how do you get the --

KIRK: The PDF.

You just go to SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

It's a nonprofit. SkyTreeBookFairs.org. Download the PDF. It's really easy. You can text it to people. Email it to people.

And also, there are instructions there, on how to begin the process of bringing Sky Tree Book Fairs to your school.

GLENN: It's fantastic.

KIRK: Well, it's an option. And this is what's exciting about living at this time.

Glenn, you just said you're born for a reason. For a purpose at a specific time, for these problems. I think that's why we're sitting here right now.

Isn't it mind-blowing to think, Stu. Before the stars started to shine in the universe, God knew that you and Glenn and I would be sitting here. Talking about just such an absurd reality, that we live in.

And then having ideas to do something about it. And we can do it together, and make a difference.

GLENN: You know, what's really amazing to me, is he has that for everybody.

And how many people have been convinced by evil.

That they don't have a purpose. There isn't anything they can do.

That they -- they shouldn't pay attention. Or they will get in trouble, if they stand up for things.

All of these lies.

KIRK: Yeah. Yeah. Because our schools. Again, real education I believe has been eaten by the ravenous wolf.

And replaced with something else. So when you take God out of the picture, you don't have what you're saying. You don't have meaning and identity and purpose, other than, this is how bacteria reacts at these temperatures after billions of years.

Cancer cells. Why discriminate?

Cancer cells from other cells.

They're just trying to survive as well. No. No. No.

There is good. There is bad. And there is purpose.

GLENN: As you're going around America and you're doing these things, what are you feeling?

THOMAS: I'm feeling, that we are living in really exciting times.

Revival.

Great awakenings. People snapping out of their stupors have always happened, in this country, and around the world, during times of moral collapse. Spiritual apathy.

Economic decline. And political corruption.

GLENN: Yeah. And warfare.

THOMAS: I think we're due for one. They tend to happen about every 50 years. This is what I'm sensing.

GLENN: This Israel thing has awakened. Not just the blood thirst, on October 7th.

But also the blood thirst that's in our own streets. I just people are going, wait. Wait. Wait.

You're for what now?

I think there's a lot of people that were just kind of coasting along. Living on the fringes. That, I will not take a stand. That are seeing things now.

Like, wait a minute. This is not. What's happening here.

KIRK: Yeah, I agree. You know how you have a beer and you kind of have that buzz, that sort of dulls your senses a little bit.

And everything just kind of seems like it's floating along.

I feel like, because of our prosperity. Because of our comfort. And the ease with which we can go through days. And pick up a latte. And uber to the cafe.

We've been in sort of this dull-minded buzz. Not recognizing the essential truths, that if you are not pursuing truth and beauty and goodness, sacrificially, and leaning into that stuff, with everything, including math, history, science, English, and economics and agriculture. You're screwed long-term.

And your children will pay for it. That's what we're waking up to now. People are sobering up.

GLENN: Okay. I want you to go to SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

Get the PDF he's talking about. Send it, and share it with everybody. And then go to your school, and see if you can get the Sky Tree Book Fairs. To come and do a book fair at your kid's school. It is important that we see these trusted brands that have long gone off the beaten path. And gone their own way.

And are actually poisonous to our society and our kids.

We have to see these brands for what they are.

And time is really running out.

It's not too late.

But it is gravely urgent. That you do this now.

Skytreebookfairs.org.

As always, great.

BRENDAN: Beautiful. Thanks. Great to see you guys. Thanks. Great working with you.

EXPOSED: Tim Walz's shocking ties to radical Muslim cleric

Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is directly connected in more ways than one to a radical Muslim cleric named Asad Zaman. Zaman's history and ties are despicable, and despite Walz's efforts to dismiss his connection to Zaman, the proof is undeniable. Glenn Beck heads to the chalkboard to connect the dots on this relationship.

Watch the FULL Episode HERE: Glenn Beck Exposes TERRORIST SYMPATHIZERS Infiltrating the Democrat Party

Is there a sinister GOP plan to SELL national parks?

Is Sen. Mike Lee pushing a sinister plan to sell our national parks and build “affordable housing” on them? Glenn Beck fact checks this claim and explains why Sen. Lee’s plan to sell 3 million acres of federal land is actually pro-freedom.

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GLENN: Now, let me give you a couple of things, from people I generally respect.

Chris Rufo, I really respect.

I'm totally against selling this land.

Nobody is going to build affordable housing deep in the Olympic Peninsula, which is one of the most beautiful places in the country.

I agree, it's in Washington State. It's on the coast. And it's a rain forest.

I want my kids hiking, fishing, and camping on those lands, not selling them off for some tax credit scam. This is a question I want to ask Mike Lee about.

That's really good. Matt Walsh chimes in, I'm very opposed to the plan. The biggest environmentalist in the country are and always have been, conservatives who like to hunt and fish.

We don't just call ourselves environmentalists, because the label has too much baggage.

And the practice always just means communist. Really, we are naturalists in the tradition of Teddy Roosevelt, and that's why most of us hate the idea of selling off federal lands to build affordable housing or whatever. I want to get to affordable housing here in a second.

Preserving nature is important. It's a shame we haven't -- that we've allowed conservation to become so left-wing coated. It never was historically.

No, and it still isn't.

You're right about one thing, Matt. We are the best conservatives. We actually live in these places. We use these places. We respect the animals. We respect the land. We know how the circle of life works. So I agree with you on that.

But affordable housing. Why do you say affordable housing or whatever?

Are you afraid those will be black people? I'm just playing devil's advocate? Are you just afraid of black people? You don't want any poor people in your neighborhood or your forest?

That's not what they mean by affordable housing.

And I know that's not what you mean either.

But what -- what we mean by affordable housing is, if you take a look at the percentage of land that is owned in some of these states. You can't live in a house, in some of these states, you know. Close to anything, for, you know, less than a million dollars. Because there's no land!

There's plenty of land all around.

Some of it. Let's just talk about Utah.

Some of it is like the surface of the moon!

But no. No. No.

Not going to hunt and fish on the surface of the moon. But we can't have you live anywhere.

I mean, you have to open up -- there is a balance between people and the planet. And I'm sorry. But when you're talked about one half of 1 percent, and we're not talking about Yellowstone.

You know, we're not. Benji Backer, the Daily Caller, he says, the United States is attempting to sell off three million acres of public land, that will be used for housing development through the addition of the spending bill.

This is a small provision to the big, beautiful bill that would put land in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado. Idaho. New Mexico. Oregon. Utah. Washington, and Wyoming at risk.

Without so much as a full and fair debate by members of both sides of the political aisle.

You know, I talked -- I'll talk to him about this.

The irony is, the edition of this provision by Republican-led Senate goes entirely against conservation legacy of a conservation. President Trump made a promise to revive this legacy.

Yada. Yada. Yada.

More about Teddy Roosevelt.

Then let me give you this one from Lomez. Is Mike Lee part of a sinister plan to sell off federal land?

This plan to sell off public lands is a terrible proposal that doesn't make any sense under our present circumstances and would be a colossal political blunder. But I'll try to be fair to base Mike Lee.

And at least have him explain where this is all coming from.

Okay. I will have him do that in about 30 minutes.

Let me give you just my perspective on this.

I'm from the West. I love the west.

I don't hike myself.

I think there's about 80 percent of the people who say, I just love to hike. And they don't love to hike. They never go outside.

I'm at least willing to admit. I don't like to hike. But I love the land. I live in a canyon now. That I would love to just preserve this whole canyon in my lifetime. I'm not going to rule from the grave. But in my lifetime, to protect this, so it remains unspoiled. Because it is beautiful!

But we're talking about selling 3 million acres of federal land. And it's becoming dangerous.

And it's a giveaway. Or a threat to nature.

But can we just look at the perspective here?

The federal government owned 640 million acres. That is nearly 28 percent of all land in America!

How much land do we have?

Well, that's about the size of France.

And Germany. Poland.

And the United Kingdom, combined!

They own and hold pristine land, that is more than the size of those countries combined!

And most of that is west of the Mississippi. Where the federal control smothers the states.

Okay?

Shuts down opportunity. Turns local citizens into tenets of the federal estate.

You can't afford any house because you don't have any land!

And, you know, the states can't afford to take care of this land. You know why the states can't afford it?

Because you can't charge taxes on 70 percent of your land!

Anyway, on, meanwhile, the folks east of the Mississippi, like Kentucky, Georgia. Pennsylvania.

You don't even realize, you know, how little of the land, you actually control.

Or how easy it is for the same policies, to come for you.

And those policies are real.

Look, I'm not talking about -- I'm disturbed by Chris Rufo saying, that it is the Olympic forest.

I mean, you're not going to live in the rain forest. I would like to hear the case on that.

But we're not talking about selling Yellowstone or paving over Yosemite or anything like that.

We're talking about less than one half of one percent of federal land. Land that is remote.
Hard to access. Or mismanaged. I live in the middle of a national forest.

So I'm surrounded on all sides by a national forest, and then BLM land around that. And then me. You know who the worst neighbor I have is?

The federal government.

The BLM land is so badly mismanaged. They don't care what's happening.

Yeah. I'm going to call my neighbor, in Washington, DC, to have them fix something.

It's not going to happen.

If something is wrong with that land, me and my neighbors, we end up, you know, fixing the land.

We end up doing it. Because the federal government sucks at it.

Okay.

So here's one -- less than one half of 1 percent.

Why is it hard to access that land?

Well, let me give you a story. Yellowstone.

Do you know that the American bison, we call it the buffalo.

But it's the American bison.

There are no true American bison, in any place, other than Yellowstone.

Did you know that?

Here's almost an endangered species.

It's the only true American bison, is in Yellowstone.

Ranchers, I would love to raise real American bison.

And I would protect them.

I would love to have them roaming on my land.

But you can't!

You can't.

Real bison, you can't.

Why? Because the federal government won't allow any of them to be bred.

In fact, when Yellowstone has too many bison on their land, you know what the federal government does?

Kills them. And buries them with a bulldozer. Instead of saying, hey. We have too many.

We will thin the herd.

We will put them on a truck. Here's some ranchers that will help repopulate the United States with bison. No, no, no. You can't do that.

Why? It's the federal government. Stop asking questions. Do you know what they've done to our bald eagles.

I have pictures of piles of bald eagles.

That they'll never show you.

They'll never show you.

You can't have a bald eagle feather!

It's against the law, to have a feather, from a bald eagle!

If it's flying, and a feather falls off, you can't pick it up. Because they're that sacred.

But I have pictures of piles of bald eagles, dead, from the windmills.

And nobody says a thing.

Okay.

But we're talking about lands.

States can't afford to manage it.

Okay. But how can the federal government?

Now, this is really important.

The federal government is, what? $30 trillion in debt or are we 45 trillion now, I'm not sure?

Our entitlement programs, all straight infrastructure, crumbling.

And yet, we're still clinging to millions of acres of land, that the federal government can't maintain. Yeah, they can.

Because they can always print money.

We can't print money in the state, so we can't afford it.

Hear me out. The BLM Forest Service, Park Service, billions of dollars behind in maintenance, roads, trails, fire brakes.

Everything is falling apart..

So what's the real plan here?

Well, the Biden administration was the first one that was really open about it, pushing for what was called 30 by 30.

They want 30 percent of all US land and water, under conservation by 2030.

But the real goal is 5050.

50 percent of the land, and the water, in the government's control by 2050.

Half of the country locked up under federal or elite approved protection.

Now, you think that's not going to affect your ability to hunt, fish, graze, cattle. Harvest, timber, just live free. You won't be able to go on those. It won't be conservatives, who stop you from hunting and fishing.

It will be the same radical environmental ideologues, who see the land, as sacred, over people!

I mean, unless it's in your backyard. Your truck. Or your dear stand, you know, then I guess you can't touch that land.

Here's something that no one is talking about, and it goes to the 2030.

The Treasury right now, and they started under Obama, and they're still doing it now.

Sorry, under Biden.

And they're doing it now. The Treasury is talking about putting federal land on the national ballot sheet. What does that mean?

Well, it will make our balance sheet so much better.

Because it looks like we have so much more wealth, and we will be able to print more money.

Uh-huh. What happens, you know. You put something sacred like that, on your balance sheet, and the piggy bank runs dry.

And all of the banks are like, okay.

Well, you can't pay anymore.

What happens in a default?

What happens, if there's catastrophic failure. You don't get to go fish on that land. Because that land becomes Chinese.

You think our creditors, foreign and domestic, won't come knocking?

What happens when federal land is no longer a national treasure, but a financial asset, that can be seized or sold or controlled by giant banks or foreign countries.

That land that you thought, you would always have access to, for your kids, for your hunting lodge, for your way of life.

That is really important!

But it might not be yours at all. Because you had full faith in the credit of the United States of America.

So what is the alternative?

Supreme Court UPHOLDS Tennessee trans law, but should have done THIS

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 in favor a Tennessee law that bans transgender surgeries for minors. But famed attorney Alan Dershowitz explains to Glenn why “it should have been unanimous.”

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GLENN: Alan Dershowitz, how are you?

ALAN: I'm doing great, how about you?

GLENN: It has been a really confusing week. I'm losing friends, I think, because I stand with Israel's right to defend themselves. And I'm pointing out, that while I don't want a war, Iran is a really bad place.

And then I see, the Supreme Court comes out best interest there are three justices are like, I don't know. I think children, you know, can change their identity before we even let them drive or carry a gun. Or enlist in the military.

It's insane!

ALAN: It is insane. Especially since the radical left said that -- 17 and a half-year-old -- voluntary sex with their boyfriend. That would be sexist, that would be horrible.

But they can consent to have an abortion. They can consent to have radical surgery, that can't be reversed.

By the way, the decision is like six to two and a half. Elena Kagan, my former colleague at Harvard, didn't reach the merits of whether or not a state could actually ban these operations on a minor. She got involved in whether or not you need super, duper scrutiny, or just super scrutiny, a kind of, you know, a very technical thing.

But she didn't rule on whether under any kind of scrutiny, the state could do that. So definitely, two of them said that the state could do it, but not necessarily a third one.

GLENN: Okay.

Can you break this argument down? And why it should have been unanimous?

ALAN: Oh, it should be unanimous. There's no question.

States under the Constitution, have the authority to decide medical issues. States decide a whole range of medical issues. I remember when I was a young professor, there was an issue of whether or not one twin could be operated on to remove a kidney, to be given to another twin.

And, you know, that case went all the way through -- the federal government never got involved in that. That was up to the state of Massachusetts. They made interesting decisions.

Some states go the other way.

Half the countries of Europe go one way. The other half go the other way. And just as Justice Brandeis once said that things are the laboratories of Constitutional experimentation.

They have the right to do things their own way. And then we'll see over time. Over time, I predict that we will find that this kind of surgery, is not acceptable scientifically for young people.

And the New York Times had an absurd op-ed yesterday. By the mother of a transgender person.

And it never mentioned. It originally said that the person was now 18 years old.

And the decision does not apply to anyone who is 18.

You know, just wait. Don't make irreversible decisions while you're 12 years old. Or 13 years old.

Because we know the statistics show, that some people, at least, regret having made these irreversible decisions, particularly. Yeah.

GLENN: So why is it -- why is it that the state. Why wasn't the argument, you can't do this to children?

ALAN: Well, you know, that's the question.

Whether or not if the state says, you can do it to children, that violates the Constitution. I think states are given an enormous amount of leeway, this. Deciding what's best for people.

You leave it to the public.

And, you know, for me, if I were, you know, voting. I would not vote to allow a 17-year-old to make that irreversible decision. But if the state wants to do it. If a country in Europe wants to do it. All right!

But the idea that there's a constitutional right for a minor, who can't -- isn't old enough to consent to a contract, to have sex, is old enough to consent to do something that will change their life forever, and they will come to regret, is -- is absurd.

GLENN: So I don't know how you feel about Justice Thomas. But he -- he took on the so-called experts.

And -- and really kind of took him to the woodshed. What were your thoughts on that?

ALAN: Well, I agree with that. I devoted my whole life to challenging experts. That's what I do in court.

I challenge experts all the time. But most of the major cases that I've won, have been cases where experts went one way, and we were -- persuaded a jury or judge. That the expert is not really an expert.

Experts have become partisans, just like everybody else.

And so I'm glad that expert piece is being challenged by judges.

And, you know, experts ought to challenge judges, judges challenge experts. That's the world we live in. Everybody challenges everybody else. As long as all of us are allowed to speak, allowed to have our point of view expressed, allowed to vote, that's democracy.

Democracy does not require a singular answer to complex medical, psychological, moral problems. We can have multiple answers.

We're not a dictatorship. We're not in North Korea or Iran, where the ayatollah or the leader tells us what to think. We can think for ourselves, and we can act for ourselves.

GLENN: Yeah. It's really interesting because this is my argument with Obamacare.

I was dead set against Obamacare. But I wasn't against Romneycare when it was in Massachusetts. If that's what Massachusetts wants to do, Massachusetts can do it. Try it.

And honestly, if it would work in a state, we would all adopt it.

But the problem is, that some of these things, like Romneycare, doesn't work. And so they want to -- they want to rope the federal government into it. Because the federal government can just print money. You know, any state wants to do anything.

For instance, I have a real hard time with California right now.

Because I have a feeling, when they fail, we will be roped into paying for the things that we all knew were bad ideas.

Why? Why should I pay for it in Texas, when I know it wouldn't work?

And I've always wanted to live in California, but I don't, because I know that's not going to work.

ALAN: Yeah. But conservatives sometimes take the opposite point of view.

Take guns, for example.

The same Justice Thomas says that I state cannot have the authority to decide that guns should not be available in time square.

Or in schools. There has to be a national openness to guns. Because of the second apple.

And -- you can argue reasonably, what the Second Amendment means.

But, you know, conservatives -- many conservatives take the view that it has to be a single standard for the United States.

It can't vary in their decision how to control -- I'm your favorite --

GLENN: Isn't that -- doesn't that -- doesn't that just take what the -- what the Bill of Rights is about, and turns it upside the head?

I mean, it says, anything not mentioned here, the states have the rights.

But they -- they cannot. The federal government cannot get involved in any of these things.

And these are rights that are enshrined.

So, I mean, because you could say that, but, I mean, when it comes to health care, that's not in the Constitution. Not in the Bill of Rights.

ALAN: Oh, no.

There's a big difference, of course.

The Second Amendment does provide for the right to bear arms.

The question is whether it's interpreted in light of the beginning of the Second Amendment. Which says, essentially, a well-regulated, well-regulated militia. Whether that applies to private ownership as well.

Whether it could be well-regulated by states.

Look, these are interesting debates.

And the Supreme Court, you know, decides these.

But all I'm saying is that many of these decisions are in some way, influenced by ideology.

The words of the Constitution, don't speak like, you know, the Ten Commandments and God, giving orders from on high.

They're often written in ambiguous terms. Even the Ten Commandments. You know, it says, thou shall not murder. And it's been interpreted by some to say, thou shall not still, the Hebrew word is (foreign language), for murder, not kill. And, of course, we know that in parts of the Bible, you are allowed to kill your enemies, if they come after you to kill you, rise up and kill them first.

So, you know, everything -- human beings are incapable of writing with absolute clarity, about complex issues.

That's why we need institutions to interpret them. The institutions should be fair.

And the Supreme Court is sometimes taking over too much authority, too much power.

I have an article today, with gay stone.

Can had starts with a quote from the book of Ruth.

And it says, when judges rule the land, there was famine.

And I say, judges were not supposed to ever rule, going back to Biblical times.

Judges are supposed to judge.

People who are elected or pointed appropriately. Are the ones supposed to rule.

GLENN: Quickly. Two other topics. And I know you have to go.

If I can get a couple of quick takes on you.

The Democrats that are being handcuffed, and throwing themselves into situations.

Do you find that to be a sign of a fascistic state or a publicity stunt?

ALAN: A publicity stunt. And they would knit it. You know, give them a drink at 11 o'clock in the bar. They will tell you, they are doing this deliberately to get attention.

Of course, a guy who is running behind in the mayor race in New York, goes and gets himself arrested. And now he's on every New York television station. And probably will move himself up in the polls.

So no.

Insular -- I don't believe in that. And I don't believe we should take it -- take it seriously.

GLENN: Last question.

I am proudly for Israel.

But I'm also for America. And I'm really tired of foreign wars.

And I think you can be pro-Israel and pro-America at the same time.

I don't think you can -- you don't have to say, I'm for Israel, defending themselves, and then that makes me a warmonger.

I am also very concerned about Iran. And have been for a very long time.

Because they're Twelvers. They're Shia Twelvers. That want to wash the world in blood. To hasten the return of the promised one.

So when they have a nuclear weapon. It's a whole different story.

ALAN: No, I agree with you, Tucker Carlson, is absolutely wrong, when he say he has to choose between America first or supporting Israel. Supporting Israel in this fight against Iran, is being America first.

It's supporting America. Israel has been doing all the hard work. It's been the one who lost its civilians and fortunately, none of its pilots yet.

But America and Israel work together in the interest of both countries.

So I'm -- I'm a big supporter of the United States, the patriarch. And I'm a big supporter of Israel at the same time.

Because they work together in tandem, to bring about Western -- Western values.

GLENN: Should we drop a bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should.

GLENN: Our plane drop the bomb?

ALAN: Yes, we should. And without killing civilians. It can be done. Probably needs four bombs, not one bomb. First, one bomb to open up the mountain. Then another bomb to destroy what's going on inside.

And in my book The Preventive State, I make the case for when preventive war is acceptable. And the war against Iran is as acceptable as it would have been to attack Nazi Germany in the 1930s. If we had done that, if Britain and France had attacked Nazi Germany in the 1930s, instead of allowing it to be built up, it could have saved 60 million lives. And so sometimes, you have to take preventive actions to save lives.

GLENN: What is the preventive state out, Alan?

ALAN: Just now. Just now.

Very well on Amazon.

New York Times refuses to review it. Because I defended Donald Trump.

And Harvard club cancelled my appearance talked about the book. Because I haven't been defending Harvard. I've been defending President Trump's attack. By the way, they called Trump to Harvard: Go fund yourself.
(laughter)

GLENN: Okay.

Let's -- I would love to have you back on next week. To talk about the preventive state. If you will. Thank you, Alan. I appreciate it. Alan Dershowitz. Harvard Law school, professor emeritus, host of the Dershow. And the author of the new book that's out now, The Preventive State.

I think that's a really important topic. Because we are -- we are traveling down the roads, where fascism, on both sides, where fascism can start to creep in. And it's all for your own good.

It's all for your own protection. Be aware. Be aware.

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