RADIONovember 13, 2023

Kirk Cameron: Parents MUST KNOW what Scholastic Book Fairs are FORCING on kids

For decades, the Scholastic Book Fair has been a staple in a child's educational experience. Parents have always seen it as a safe and fun way to get kids excited about reading. But now, like many other once-trusted parts of society, the Scholastic Book Fair has embraced wokeism and become a "wolf in grandma's clothing." The Scholastic Book Fair is no longer a safe place to send your kids, warns actor and producer Kirk Cameron. He joins Glenn to expose the kind of inappropriate and propagandistic material that the Scholastic Book Fair is now pushing on our children. But Cameron also brings an alternative. He is now helping launch SkyTree Book Fairs, a non-profit organization dedicated to nurturing childhood innocence and character through book fairs that inspire the imagination while upholding the truth — and your kids' school can hold one.

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GLENN: We welcome back to the program. Good friend, actor, producer. And dare I say it, activist. Kirk Cameron.

I know, that's a bad word, isn't it?

KIRK: I've been given worse words. I got to keep labels nowadays.

GLENN: But you really kind of.

I think we all have, if you care about what is going on in the country, you can't sit around anymore.

KIRK: No. I think those days are over.

Because there are on the other sides who are not sitting around. They are reformers. They are not sitting on the couch, watching CNN, or Fox, sort of crying about a Republican conservative Christian win here or there.

They're saying, we have a ground it became. And we're relentless. And we're not going to stop. And I think we can learn a lot of lessons from them.

GLENN: Yeah. Scholastic. Scholastic. They have had their book fairs for years.

KIRK: Or 100 years.

GLENN: And we've all grown to trust that brand, as Disney.

And they've kind of gone the way of Disney, haven't they?

KIRK: That's right. That -- that's right.

They are now controllers in part of the woke matrix. And they are so massively influential. Have you ever wondered, when I watch these videos of moms in school boards, screaming and yelling about this sexually explicit content. This nudity, this pornography, coming down to elementary school kids. Where does this stuff come from?

Is it the board members? Is it the librarian who is into this weird stuff?

No.

There's a wolf in grandma's clothing. To use the Little Red Riding metaphor.

And that wolf, we have discovered, is the world's largest publisher and distributer of children's books, which is scholastic.

They're a billion dollar company. Around for over 100 years. They have over 100,000 book fairs across the country. Hundreds every single day, in public and private schools.

And the books are increasingly laced with gender-confusing race-infused. Pornographic. Sexually explicit material.

That you can't even advertise on Facebook. The conservative Christian conglomerate meta. Is even saying, you can't show that stuff.

And those are adult standards. That's not even pointing out the fact that these are images and content for minors.

GLENN: Honestly how is this even legal or possible?

What was the state that just passed the law, if you can't say it on FCC-regulated airways, you can't use it in schools. And I don't understand it.

When these school boards will sit there and say -- as parents, will angrily read a book that their kids brought home.

And they will say, that's not appropriate. What do you mean it's not appropriate?

We're all adults.

GLENN: Exactly. And Glenn and Stu. I want you to know. That I'm not using hyperbole here.

I didn't believe this, until I bought the books. And I read them myself.

I'm holding them up here.

We have welcome to St. Hell.

We have stars in their eyes. Rick, Melissa, George.

All sorts of books. And in there, is literally instruction manuals for preteen children on how to have sex as another gender.

And how to turn your female tiny sexy organ into very own two-inch Willie. By injecting yourself with hormones. You have underage drinking. Clothes off in bed.

You have scars from top surgery breast removal. Pictures. Drawings. Cartoons.

GLENN: Made for what age?

KIRK: These are for eight to 12. Then it goes younger, when it gets into books like Julianne is a mermaid. Where you have a grandmother what can only be described by me as grooming her grandson to explore the world of drag.

These are for little kids. These are like kindergarten, first grade stuff.

STU: Oh, gosh.

GLENN: So you're now talking about studies from the United States government, that reveal, that you expose children to sexual material early.

You increase their odds of being victimized.

Of going --

GLENN: -- you know all of this.

DOM: If you're a parent. You know all of this stuff. And the fact that there are federal laws, prohibiting the distribution of pornographic and obscene material for minors, because it's harmful to them.

Doesn't go away, when you put it into books like this. And say they're educational. It doesn't make it any less obscene or harmful. So we have to wake up.

And not just, frankly, yell at the school board. They're heavily invested. They haven't read every book in the library. And the books are laced.

It's like -- you get Halloween candy that's laced with fentanyl. You don't necessarily know that it's there.

But scholastic is lacing their books with obscene material in the middle of the pages with benign-looking covers, so they don't even know it's there.

So what we need to do is say, now that we know, now that we're exposing, let's start dealing with the school board. Say, mom and dad, what are you doing? Why are you dropping your kids seven hours a day to be indoctrinated by these people?

Don't you know that the whole point of this is to separate you from your children?

You sexualize children, you drive a wedge between you and them. And they will go down roads, because of their natural curiosity, and their impressionable minds. With teachers who are pushing this stuff. And scholastic former CEO is saying, we are committed to putting more and more of this material. In more and more channels as we possibly can.

In fact, they apologize to the leftist organizations, when they pulled back a little bit. In some of these book fairs. And put these LGBTQ obscene other type -- put it off to the side. And an optional product you can order. No. They wanted it mainstream, front and center. So they apologized and doubled down on their efforts. This is Scholastic, the thousand-pound gorilla in this space.

GLENN: So what are you doing? Because you have been great in libraries. You are on this.

STU: Allowing you in libraries now?

I thought that was your thing?

GLENN: They're so inclusive. They don't let me in the front door.

KIRK: You can get in. Because this is America. And there are many, many libraries, that want us to come. So we have two things. I'm doing sort of -- as a proposed solution to this horrible wolf in grandma's clothing.

One, we have created a PDF, so that parents can download the PDF and see everything that I'm talking about.

Page. Book number. Author biographies. All of this stuff.

You can show it to your fellow parents in the school. Show it to your principle. Show it to your librarians and school board members. Make them aware of what's going on.

And then, don't just stick it to them to figure it out.

We have actually created a nonprofit. It was started by a concerned mother. Called Sky Tree book fairs. You can replace these harmful scholastic book fairs with helpful, wholesome book fairs. With 500 books that have all been vetted and screened to take out all the nasty pornography. And the race theory. And the race stuff.

And they're about wholesome, good values. And we already have over 700 public and private schools. That have already begun the process of replacing scholastic with Sky Tree Book Fairs.

And the first one is coming up next month, in Spotsylvania, Virginia. First one, public school. Superintendent of the district is so excited about this.

They have gotten rid of scholastic. They are putting sky treatment fairs.

GLENN: This is a public school. Yes. How are they getting away with that?

KIRK: Yes. Oh, because they can. They can choose what book fairs they want or don't want.

The reason why so many private schools go with Scholastic is, A, they're trusted. Right? You think it's grandma. You think it's grandma. You don't know that grandma was eaten up by the wolf. And now he's dressed in this trusted clothing called Scholastic. B, the schools actually get money from the books that are sold at the book fairs. Right? There's a percentage that goes back to the school.

So there -- that's part of their budget.

GLENN: Does that happen with the Sky Tree books?

KIRK: That's a good question. I believe it does. I believe they get funds that come to them, to invest in more books like this, and more programs that reinforce these values back to the other.

GLENN: So first of all, how do you get the --

KIRK: The PDF.

You just go to SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

It's a nonprofit. SkyTreeBookFairs.org. Download the PDF. It's really easy. You can text it to people. Email it to people.

And also, there are instructions there, on how to begin the process of bringing Sky Tree Book Fairs to your school.

GLENN: It's fantastic.

KIRK: Well, it's an option. And this is what's exciting about living at this time.

Glenn, you just said you're born for a reason. For a purpose at a specific time, for these problems. I think that's why we're sitting here right now.

Isn't it mind-blowing to think, Stu. Before the stars started to shine in the universe, God knew that you and Glenn and I would be sitting here. Talking about just such an absurd reality, that we live in.

And then having ideas to do something about it. And we can do it together, and make a difference.

GLENN: You know, what's really amazing to me, is he has that for everybody.

And how many people have been convinced by evil.

That they don't have a purpose. There isn't anything they can do.

That they -- they shouldn't pay attention. Or they will get in trouble, if they stand up for things.

All of these lies.

KIRK: Yeah. Yeah. Because our schools. Again, real education I believe has been eaten by the ravenous wolf.

And replaced with something else. So when you take God out of the picture, you don't have what you're saying. You don't have meaning and identity and purpose, other than, this is how bacteria reacts at these temperatures after billions of years.

Cancer cells. Why discriminate?

Cancer cells from other cells.

They're just trying to survive as well. No. No. No.

There is good. There is bad. And there is purpose.

GLENN: As you're going around America and you're doing these things, what are you feeling?

THOMAS: I'm feeling, that we are living in really exciting times.

Revival.

Great awakenings. People snapping out of their stupors have always happened, in this country, and around the world, during times of moral collapse. Spiritual apathy.

Economic decline. And political corruption.

GLENN: Yeah. And warfare.

THOMAS: I think we're due for one. They tend to happen about every 50 years. This is what I'm sensing.

GLENN: This Israel thing has awakened. Not just the blood thirst, on October 7th.

But also the blood thirst that's in our own streets. I just people are going, wait. Wait. Wait.

You're for what now?

I think there's a lot of people that were just kind of coasting along. Living on the fringes. That, I will not take a stand. That are seeing things now.

Like, wait a minute. This is not. What's happening here.

KIRK: Yeah, I agree. You know how you have a beer and you kind of have that buzz, that sort of dulls your senses a little bit.

And everything just kind of seems like it's floating along.

I feel like, because of our prosperity. Because of our comfort. And the ease with which we can go through days. And pick up a latte. And uber to the cafe.

We've been in sort of this dull-minded buzz. Not recognizing the essential truths, that if you are not pursuing truth and beauty and goodness, sacrificially, and leaning into that stuff, with everything, including math, history, science, English, and economics and agriculture. You're screwed long-term.

And your children will pay for it. That's what we're waking up to now. People are sobering up.

GLENN: Okay. I want you to go to SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

Get the PDF he's talking about. Send it, and share it with everybody. And then go to your school, and see if you can get the Sky Tree Book Fairs. To come and do a book fair at your kid's school. It is important that we see these trusted brands that have long gone off the beaten path. And gone their own way.

And are actually poisonous to our society and our kids.

We have to see these brands for what they are.

And time is really running out.

It's not too late.

But it is gravely urgent. That you do this now.

Skytreebookfairs.org.

As always, great.

BRENDAN: Beautiful. Thanks. Great to see you guys. Thanks. Great working with you.

The Book of Enoch: Did Extraterrestrial Beings DESCEND in the Days of Noah?!

The Book of Enoch tells a story the Bible only hints at: A story of heavenly beings who descended to Earth, took human wives, created hybrid giants, and unleashed forbidden knowledge that corrupted the world before the Flood. Glenn Beck and researcher Timothy Alberino break down how the ancient Hebrew worldview explains the Watchers, the Nephilim, the origins of demigod myths, and why Peter and Jude referenced Enoch directly in the New Testament. From extraterrestrial terms in Scripture to the cosmic “family of God” and the divine rebellion that reshaped human history, this discussion reveals a forgotten narrative that once defined early Jewish and Christian theology. What really happened in the days of Noah, and why does it matter now?

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Cracker Barrel CEO breaks silence on logo controversy in exclusive interview

Glenn Beck recently spoke with Cracker Barrel CEO Julie Masino about the company’s infamous attempt to change its logo, and he asked the question everyone has been wondering: Why wasn’t she fired?! Glenn previews his interview, which debuts Thursday, Nov. 20 at 6PM ET!

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GLENN: I was in Tennessee this weekend, and Saturday morning, I go to -- I think store number two for Cracker Barrel. And I met with the senior vice president and the CEO of Cracker Barrel. And we sat down, and we had an interview. And Julie, who has not done an interview since Good Morning America, kind of said, okay. No more interviews, because that didn't go well.

This was her first interview since then.

And, you know, it was weird. Because I got off. I got off the plane.

And, oh. Somebody on the plane said, "What are you doing here?"

And I said, "I'm going to go interview the CEO of -- of Cracker Barrel."

And the immediate response was, "Get her!"

I was like, "Wow. Okay. All right. Thank you."

I get into the car, and the Uber driver says to me, "What are you doing here?" And I said, "I'm going to meet with the person at Cracker Barrel."

"Boy, she really screwed her up. You hold her feet to the fire."

I mean, I've never -- I've never seen anything like that. And, you know, I started the interview with her, you know, honestly. And I said, look, I -- I -- I'm not here to get you. I'm not here to do anything, but ask questions that I think everybody in America wants to know.

Like, what the hell were you thinking?

And I asked her some -- asked her all of the really pointed questions. Rikki, the TV executive producer said, "There's no way. I know you. You're going to soften. There's no way."

And when I got up afterwards, she was like, "Wow. Okay. You didn't -- you really -- you really didn't soften. You know, you asked all of those questions."

Because I thought they were fair. And I told her, "Look, I hate conflict. I'm not here for conflict. I'm not here. I don't need to make a name for myself by giving you a hard time. I don't care about any of that. I just want to do my job and ask you, 'What happened here?'"

And I said, "So I'm going to ask you really uncomfortable questions." And she was prepared. And I think I finally broke through, and got the real answer in the end. I think I got the real answer.

STU: Hmm.

GLENN: And it came from one of the questions I asked was, I mean, are you surprised, you haven't been fired yet?

And her response was, all telling. All telling. It's a fascinating interview you should watch. It's going to happen, I think Thursday on the podcast.

STU: Because I'm mildly surprised that hasn't happened. You know, like just because -- not because -- I don't know. There's a lot of things she's been accused of and everything else.

But just like, when you have a situation like this, where you're trying a major change and you roll it out a specific way and it does not go well, you know, it's usually -- it's like, when you're general manager of a football team, you go through the process. You evaluate all the quarterbacks. You pick the guy.

And that guy is a total bust, like you usually don't survive it. It doesn't necessarily mean you went through the process incorrectly. But when you miss, usually something happens like that. Does she feel like she missed like that?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yes, she does.

She's a very bright woman. I mean, she ran Coach, you know, the purse place or whatever.
STU: The purse company.
GLENN: The Coach brand. Godiva Chocolates. Taco Bell, the whole -- global. (I mean, she's a Fortune 500 CEO. She's very, very competent. Very competent.

So how could somebody very, very competent make this mistake?

STU: Hmm. Did she walk you through that? How that happened?

GLENN: Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. She see.

And what's interesting is, they brought the senior vice president was also sitting there.

And he has been brought in since.

I mean, he had been there for 30, 35 years.

And really good guy. And he was one of the voices that was like, while that was happening, like, you guys. Hey, everybody upstairs. You shouldn't be doing this.

It's a bad idea. And so after they were like, "Hey. You know who was saying this? Let's bring him upstairs." And it was interesting to talk to him, because he's been long before she got there. So he kind of gave the view of, here's what happened before she got here! And here's where she came in.

And here's what happened.

And it's -- it's really fascinating.

I mean, if you want to hear the real story behind it.

And -- and also see somebody -- I mean, just wait until you hear her answer on -- I mean, it was so powerful and so honest. When I said, are you surprised you haven't been fired yet?

It was a fascinating answer.

STU: How many pancakes did you --

GLENN: Podcast on Thursday, I didn't eat any.

STU: You went to Cracker Barrel headquarters, and you ate zero pancakes?

GLENN: I didn't. I didn't. It was very difficult to not order the pancakes.

STU: You're the type of guy who gets pancakes by mistake. What do you mean you've got none?

GLENN: I was looking at my wife. My wife was sitting off to the side of the camera. And I'm looking at her. I'm like, she's so beautiful. And I eat pancakes, too many times.

STU: Uh-huh.

GLENN: And she's just -- she has to live with this, the pancake-wearing shoes. I'm not going to order the pancakes. The pancakes.

THIS Epstein quote could PROVE Trump’s real ties to the scandal

Democrats are trying yet again to tie President Trump to Jeffrey Epstein’s scandals. This time, they’ve highlighted that Epstein once referred to Trump as “the dog that hasn’t barked.” Is this proof that Trump is in the Epstein Files…or is it actually evidence that he was a whistleblower against Epstein? Glenn and Stu discuss…

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GLENN: Now, Jeffrey Epstein is back in the news today. Could we just for the love of Pete release everything that we have, so we can move on! From the Jeffrey Epstein thing.

Here's the answer: No.

Even if we release everything that we still have, this is going to go on for the rest of our lives.

It will always -- and probably, into our children's lives.

Do you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were the reason we never went to the moon.

It's going to happen!

It's just one of these conspiracy theories, that will never, ever go away.

Why?

Because no one was honest about it in the first place. Once you start to lie, you lie once -- once! If you're a very honest person, you will lie once. And then people are like, what? What?

Why would he lie about that? What is going on?

He's not like that. But if you're the United States governor government. You already have no credibility whatsoever!

Stop lying to the American people.

Just stop it. You know, I said something a minute ago. One of the reasons why you're hearing lies is because it works to the advantage of a Colour Revolution.

You know, there are reasons why people are lying to you. Some of it, they're just dirtbags and they're liars. Some of it, they're politicians, and so they're liars.

Some of it, however, a good deal of it is, we lie, because we know it causes damage to the credibility of this entire system.

We know it does damage to the culture of America, and we are here trying to destroy the culture of America because we want to try something new. And the only -- you won't vote for it. So the only way we can get America to change and do something entirely different, that they will never vote for, is just to cause chaos and disbelief in everything!

So as I said a minute ago, you know, it's not the news. Many times, it's a reflection of a plan! And when it comes to the Epstein thing, this is absolutely a plan. The way this thing has been played out. Democrats are completely against bringing anything out against Epstein.

They don't want to do anything about it. The media. Do you remember the ABC anchor that went into a commercial break. And she was like, you know what, I've got to tell you, Epstein. You know, we had the goods on him. Dead to rights.

Clinton. All of it.

And we were told, pull it.

Remember that.

Remember that, gang?

They pulled it at ABC. I think they fired the person who tried to -- who released that video.

Or tried to fire that person. I think they were working either at CBS or whatever. That person was in trouble for releasing that behind the scenes tape.

They had no intention of it. Now, everybody wants the Epstein tapes. Wait a minute. You didn't want them when Biden went in. And you could have said something, Democrats. And you could have released it all.

And, you know, it's funny. It is just so full of stuff about Donald Trump. Then why wouldn't they release just that?

Why wouldn't have the Democrats released anything in the Epstein file?

You're telling me, we've got to find something on them. Hey. I've got the Epstein files. Yeah, yeah. We've got to find something on it.

I have got some information here about Epstein. Him and Epstein, they were fooling around. Yeah, shut up for a second. Is there anything at all, that we can construe and manufacture about his banks?

I know!

He's got a vet signal between his bank and the Russian bank. I've got stuff about the Epstein.

Come on! If they had stuff about the Epstein, they would have gone to the stuff about the Epstein files.

They don't have anything, they don't have anything.

Now, let me speak directly to conservatives. They're not going to release anything about the Democrats, because they had the Epstein files.

Do you think that -- let's just say, I'm not even going to name names. Let's just say the most powerful people on the earth. The most powerful people with powerful connections, to government.

They knew their names were, you know, there on little, you know, guest books at the island, or whatever.

You don't think they called in some favors and said, "Hey, I need that -- can you remove that?"

You don't think that there were people that were like, "Hey. You know what, we'll remove that."

"We need $100 million from you, to help out on this campaign."

I mean, whatever it is, those names are gone too! They're gone! How do I know this?

Because the government is completely dishonest! That's how I know that.

But, anyway, now, Donald Trump.

STU: You don't think anything of interest would be in these files?

I mean, I think we've already seen some stuff of interest in the emails, no?

GLENN: Yeah, I think there are stuff of interest. I don't think there's going to be anyone at a very high level that is going to get -- that's going to be like, holy cow. Look, here's pictures with him with a 14-year-old girl!

That's not going to happen.

STU: Right. Somewhere that stuff, at least at the upper levels, not there.

Now, here's what is interesting: The timing of the release of a few documents last week. The Democrats released some documents.

And they released them, and at the same time, that Johnson were saying, by the way, we are going to expedite the releasing of everything.

So there's no reason to leak anything. But the Democrats decide to leak some stuff. They like a memo. And in that, oh, my gosh.

Look at what was said. What was said in that memo. Well, it was said, you know, the only dog that hasn't barked is Trump!

Well, what -- what did he mean by that?

He's keeping it quiet. All of these things. All of these innuendos and everything. Well, now we know, from the guy who wrote the book, all the president's meeting. Donald Trump and the making of a predator, that guy came out this weekend and said, no, no. That's not what he meant.

What did he mean?

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GLENN: So Barry Levine comes on. And he's on MSNBC this wreaked.

And he's asked, so tell me, I mean, we've seen this email between you and Epstein. What did he mean that the to go that hasn't barked is Trump. What do you think he's referring to?

Okay. What was he referring to?

I think Epstein is referring to the fact that he believed that Donald Trump talked to Michael rider who was the Palm Beach police chief in 2004. And began the first investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

So, in other words, he was the whistle-blower!

Yeah. But he's got all kinds of stuff in his -- in Jeffrey Epstein's books.

He's the whistle-blower!

The one thing you don't do is blow the whistle, when you know you got fingerprints all over the dead body. And the handgun that killed him!

You know what, I think you could find that hand gun, in this alleyway. Your fingerprints are on it. Man, why would you blow the whistle?

The suspect, he said, I suspected that Jeffrey Epstein was saying, he was 75 percent there.

Believing that Trump might have been the whistle-blower at the time. He believed it's 75 percent.

Now, how do you release something.

I mean, if you think things will be released. That will get Donald Trump. Why would you release that?

Where after two days of it being out, the guy who was part of that email, who hates Donald Trump, is like, yeah.

That's not what it means. It means he was whistle blower. Jeez.

STU: That is interesting. And I will say, you know, it is -- amazing that that's what they released. And chose to release.

That's the same email, by the way, that you're mentioning. That they blacked out the name of Virginia Giuffre, which they did intentionally. Because she has said that he was nothing, but respectful. And was never with any of the girls at all.

In not only her book, but also in testimony, under oath.

And the other one, that they released, which said, Trump -- he says, of course, he knew about the girls, was the other big one that they released. Which they left the -- well, they didn't leave it out. They just hoped you didn't focus on the next part of the sentence, which he says, that of course, he knew about the girls, as he asked Ghislaine to stop. Which would indicate, even if he was aware of this, which I don't think this had anything to do with the sex stuff. I think this was about him taking them.

GLENN: No. It was about poaching his girls from Mar-a-Lago.

STU: Right.

GLENN: The employees. He knows that we're poaching these girls. It doesn't mean he knows what they're doing with them. Stop taking my employees!

Okay. Now, if you suspect he's the whistle-blower and he knew you were taking employees from him, you know, in retrospect, you know, looking at it later, you go, oh, man, he's the whistle-blower?

But he also knows about the girls.

He knows we were taking them.

Does he know what we were doing with the girls?

I mean, this does not hurt Donald Trump. It helps Donald Trump.

STU: What about the one they released from Jeffrey Epstein. Where he said, I've met some very bad people, and none are as bad as Trump.

I mean, what if they come up with bad comments from Jeffrey Dahmer about Donald Trump? What will you say then? I mean, this is so dumb.

GLENN: I've eaten some bad eggs in my life, but I would not eat Donald Trump. I'll tell you that right now.

'House of David' Star REVEALS Story Behind TV’s #1 Biblical Series

Amazon’s House of David has become the #1 show on Prime Video, and today Glenn Beck talks with Michael Iskander, the actor bringing King David to life in one of the most powerful biblical series ever produced. Michael shares how fasting, prayer, and years of preparation shaped his performance, why David’s flaws and redemption resonate so deeply with viewers, and what really happened behind the scenes with Goliath, the sheep, and the shepherd who taught him lessons he’ll never forget.

Transcript

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GLENN: I've got somebody on, who is in just an amazing, amazing show from Amazon. House of David. If you haven't seen House of David yet, you have to. Do you remember when-like biblical movies. I mean, they were good in the '50s. And then they got really, really bad.

And then all through the '70s and '80s and 2000s. They were horrible.

And then all of a sudden, they got really, really good?

This someone amazing. This is as good as the Jesus. What is the Jesus one?

Chosen.

It's called House of David. It's on Amazon, and we have the guy who portrays David. Michael Iskander on with us.

Michael, how are you?

MICHAEL: I'm good. What an introduction. Thank you for that!

GLENN: I mean, it's really.

Come on. Was there any time, that you thought, oh, man. This might -- I hope they do it right!

And then you saw the finished product, and you were like, wow! This is good?

MICHAEL: Yeah. That was -- you know, I try to keep my head down, and, you know, it's -- it's not finished until it's finished.

And season two is coming out. You know, I'm just going to be hearing the response of how this show is really affecting people.

GLENN: So can I talk to you about Goliath?

Because Goliath is portrayed really as a giant. Not just a big guy. He's a giant.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Talk to me about that.

MICHAEL: Well, I'll tell you what, when I first met Martin.

He was -- I went to -- I went to the gym with him one time.

And I -- I knew, I'm going to get, you know, my stuff. So I was prepared for that.

And -- and he made me workout for two and a half hours. And I thought that the workout was done. And he was like, no. There's another half. And, man, he -- Martin is a really dedicated man. And he just -- he pushed me to the edge, when it came to working out.

And, you know, when it comes to his role with Goliath. He's someone that really just put all the effort, both physically and emotionally to really portray that part, as best as he can.

GLENN: How long did it take you to learn the slingshot?

MICHAEL: Three days. It wasn't too bad.

GLENN: Well, I heard you had problem with the sheep.

That the sheep were -- they were not helpful.

MICHAEL: The sheep -- well, the sheep were actually really interesting.

I remember when we first started filming, they -- they put me in sheep training classes.

Because when I get on tape. They have to make sure, that I'm not -- you know, I'm not going to get attacked by one of the sheep. And I'm comfortable around them.

The sheep. First day I show up to this training, and she painted me. And you would think that the guy who plays David, you know, would think of his sheep.

GLENN: No. I don't. I don't. I don't think that's natural. You're an actor. I don't know if that's -- yep, well, they picked me because I'm good with sheep.

MICHAEL: I should get classes from you.

GLENN: I don't know.

MICHAEL: But, no. I mean, it really -- spent a lot of time with the Shepherd.
And he was giving me some really amazing lessons.
He saw that I was having trouble.

And he said, you know, you should stick next to me. Because this sheep, when they see you with the shepherd, they'll know that you're with me.
So they'll never leave my side.

GLENN: It's amazing.

MICHAEL: I want you to spend a lot of time with me. And I he said, oh, okay. And he said, I want you to know another thing: A bad shepherd is a shepherd who is behind the flock. And so you, you're going to be a good shepherd. You're going to show them. You're not going to let them lead you.

You're going to lead them, and you're going to be in the front taking risks and showing them the path.

GLENN: Uh-huh.

MICHAEL: And he is saying this, I think -- I think I'm getting more than just a sheep lesson here. It really helped in terms of understanding who David was as a person. And then his relationship to Christ.

And why -- why David was chosen as king.

GLENN: Is it true that you fasted, before the audition? I mean, you're a Broadway guy.

MICHAEL: Yeah. Yeah. I sent in the first audition. I was really excited about it.

And it was a dream of mine for a long time. You know, one of these dreams, that you don't tell anyone. And you don't think it will ever happen.

GLENN: To play David specifically? Or to be --

MICHAEL: Yeah, to play David. To play David.

GLENN: Really?

MICHAEL: And because I was inspired by the Chosen.

And I wanted to maybe do flashback scenes with a young David, or something.

When I got the audition, and they originally said no. I thought, oh, that would have been a good opportunity.

GLENN: Hmm.

MICHAEL: And I got another audition. I called my mom. And I said, Mom, this doesn't happen often. Can you believe it? She said, Michael, calm down.

The one thing I need you to do. I need you to fast, and I need you to pray.

I said, yes, ma'am.

A week later, I was having lunch with Jon Erwin. And he -- it kind of took off from there.

But, yeah, fasting and prayer.

GLENN: You know, I'm friends with.
I went to school with Jim Caviezel. And I can't remember what grade he was in. Maybe fifth grade, I think. But he went into church, and all by himself.

And he prayed, and he made a pact with God. Let me -- all I want, Lord, is to play you in a movie some day, and I will live my life honorably to be able to be ready, but I want to play you.

And so he told me when Mel called, he was like, yeah, I've been waiting for the call. It's an amazing thing.

MICHAEL: Wow. I didn't know that story. That's beautiful.

GLENN: Yeah. What do you think it is about the story about -- this was the number one show -- number one series on -- on Amazon -- on Amazon Prime this year.

What is it about the series that you think is connecting?

MICHAEL: You know, I -- I think it's different for everybody.

But I'll tell you for me.

The reason why this show means a lot to me, is because, David points us to Christ.

And -- and David is -- is a person.

He to me, is the embodiment to what it means to be human.

And to make mistakes. And find forgiveness.

It's a complex, long story.

But he was a man that -- that -- he's known as the man after God's own heart.

So for people to see that example. To see, to see the man that God loved so much, that Jesus himself was -- son of David.

I think that's what -- they see the Holy Spirit in the show. I mean, that's what I see.
And that's who I do it for.

GLENN: It's -- it's -- it's amazing to me, how -- with the exception of one, the Bible -- every single hero is so deeply flawed.

And David is so good, so good, and then, you know, becomes really, really does one of the worst things I think I've ever read in the Bible. I mean, just really bad.

MICHAEL: Yeah.

GLENN: Are you going to play -- do you have any idea, assuming the ratings are there, how long of the story you're going to tell?

MICHAEL: I really don't know. I mean, we're just trying to get to season two right now in the release.

Hopefully, pray for us, that we can get to season three, and we can keep telling the story.

I don't know what Erwin and Gunn have. What they're picking up. But I pray that we tell as much of the story as possible. I think it's important to see both the good and the bad. Like you said, to see this flawed human being, to see someone make mistakes, and to see them get back up and repent.

And ask for forgiveness. And find grace in God. So we'll see!

Pray for us.

GLENN: You -- I read some place that you were a Broadway guy. And I thought, this career is not over yet.

I mean, are you prepared to always be David?

I mean, the guy who is playing Jesus now. Jim Caviezel said, it took years before he was allowed to play anything else.

And I can't remember the guy who was playing Jesus his whole life. He is Jesus to a lot of people. Are you prepared to this be you for the rest of your life now?

And not, you know, going -- going back and doing other things, if that's the way it is?

MICHAEL: You know what, God has taken me through so much in my life, that I'm sure he's going to get me through this.

And if I'm known as the guy who plays David, I think it's actually a blessing. And I don't know what God has in store, but I trust him.

GLENN: Yeah.

MICHAEL: When that time comes, I will worry about it then. But nor for now, I'm having a great time portraying one of my favorite people.

GLENN: I just have to ask you a personal question. One for me. My daughter wants to be on Broadway. Can you talk her out of it in 30 seconds, please?

MICHAEL: Oh, man, I don't know if I want to talk her out of it.

GLENN: Okay. Well, time for you to go now.
(laughter)
Michael, thank you so much, and we're looking forward -- when does it premiere? Is it this weekend? Is it out?

MICHAEL: Well, episode eight is out on Warner Project on Prime this Sunday. Yeah.

GLENN: Okay. Good. Good.

Well, we'll be watching. Thank you so much, Michael. I appreciate it.
MICHAEL: Thank you so much, Glenn. Have a good one. Take care.
GLENN: You bet. If you haven't seen the first season, you really should see it.

It's really, really good. It's one of those that I started watching, you know.

And I stopped because I was like, wait.

Tania, we should watch this together. And she came home. And so we started watching it, and I think we watched the whole season in one weekend.

It's one of those. It's really good. Season two premieres this Sunday.