RADIONovember 13, 2023

Kirk Cameron: Parents MUST KNOW what Scholastic Book Fairs are FORCING on kids

For decades, the Scholastic Book Fair has been a staple in a child's educational experience. Parents have always seen it as a safe and fun way to get kids excited about reading. But now, like many other once-trusted parts of society, the Scholastic Book Fair has embraced wokeism and become a "wolf in grandma's clothing." The Scholastic Book Fair is no longer a safe place to send your kids, warns actor and producer Kirk Cameron. He joins Glenn to expose the kind of inappropriate and propagandistic material that the Scholastic Book Fair is now pushing on our children. But Cameron also brings an alternative. He is now helping launch SkyTree Book Fairs, a non-profit organization dedicated to nurturing childhood innocence and character through book fairs that inspire the imagination while upholding the truth — and your kids' school can hold one.

Transcript

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GLENN: We welcome back to the program. Good friend, actor, producer. And dare I say it, activist. Kirk Cameron.

I know, that's a bad word, isn't it?

KIRK: I've been given worse words. I got to keep labels nowadays.

GLENN: But you really kind of.

I think we all have, if you care about what is going on in the country, you can't sit around anymore.

KIRK: No. I think those days are over.

Because there are on the other sides who are not sitting around. They are reformers. They are not sitting on the couch, watching CNN, or Fox, sort of crying about a Republican conservative Christian win here or there.

They're saying, we have a ground it became. And we're relentless. And we're not going to stop. And I think we can learn a lot of lessons from them.

GLENN: Yeah. Scholastic. Scholastic. They have had their book fairs for years.

KIRK: Or 100 years.

GLENN: And we've all grown to trust that brand, as Disney.

And they've kind of gone the way of Disney, haven't they?

KIRK: That's right. That -- that's right.

They are now controllers in part of the woke matrix. And they are so massively influential. Have you ever wondered, when I watch these videos of moms in school boards, screaming and yelling about this sexually explicit content. This nudity, this pornography, coming down to elementary school kids. Where does this stuff come from?

Is it the board members? Is it the librarian who is into this weird stuff?

No.

There's a wolf in grandma's clothing. To use the Little Red Riding metaphor.

And that wolf, we have discovered, is the world's largest publisher and distributer of children's books, which is scholastic.

They're a billion dollar company. Around for over 100 years. They have over 100,000 book fairs across the country. Hundreds every single day, in public and private schools.

And the books are increasingly laced with gender-confusing race-infused. Pornographic. Sexually explicit material.

That you can't even advertise on Facebook. The conservative Christian conglomerate meta. Is even saying, you can't show that stuff.

And those are adult standards. That's not even pointing out the fact that these are images and content for minors.

GLENN: Honestly how is this even legal or possible?

What was the state that just passed the law, if you can't say it on FCC-regulated airways, you can't use it in schools. And I don't understand it.

When these school boards will sit there and say -- as parents, will angrily read a book that their kids brought home.

And they will say, that's not appropriate. What do you mean it's not appropriate?

We're all adults.

GLENN: Exactly. And Glenn and Stu. I want you to know. That I'm not using hyperbole here.

I didn't believe this, until I bought the books. And I read them myself.

I'm holding them up here.

We have welcome to St. Hell.

We have stars in their eyes. Rick, Melissa, George.

All sorts of books. And in there, is literally instruction manuals for preteen children on how to have sex as another gender.

And how to turn your female tiny sexy organ into very own two-inch Willie. By injecting yourself with hormones. You have underage drinking. Clothes off in bed.

You have scars from top surgery breast removal. Pictures. Drawings. Cartoons.

GLENN: Made for what age?

KIRK: These are for eight to 12. Then it goes younger, when it gets into books like Julianne is a mermaid. Where you have a grandmother what can only be described by me as grooming her grandson to explore the world of drag.

These are for little kids. These are like kindergarten, first grade stuff.

STU: Oh, gosh.

GLENN: So you're now talking about studies from the United States government, that reveal, that you expose children to sexual material early.

You increase their odds of being victimized.

Of going --

GLENN: -- you know all of this.

DOM: If you're a parent. You know all of this stuff. And the fact that there are federal laws, prohibiting the distribution of pornographic and obscene material for minors, because it's harmful to them.

Doesn't go away, when you put it into books like this. And say they're educational. It doesn't make it any less obscene or harmful. So we have to wake up.

And not just, frankly, yell at the school board. They're heavily invested. They haven't read every book in the library. And the books are laced.

It's like -- you get Halloween candy that's laced with fentanyl. You don't necessarily know that it's there.

But scholastic is lacing their books with obscene material in the middle of the pages with benign-looking covers, so they don't even know it's there.

So what we need to do is say, now that we know, now that we're exposing, let's start dealing with the school board. Say, mom and dad, what are you doing? Why are you dropping your kids seven hours a day to be indoctrinated by these people?

Don't you know that the whole point of this is to separate you from your children?

You sexualize children, you drive a wedge between you and them. And they will go down roads, because of their natural curiosity, and their impressionable minds. With teachers who are pushing this stuff. And scholastic former CEO is saying, we are committed to putting more and more of this material. In more and more channels as we possibly can.

In fact, they apologize to the leftist organizations, when they pulled back a little bit. In some of these book fairs. And put these LGBTQ obscene other type -- put it off to the side. And an optional product you can order. No. They wanted it mainstream, front and center. So they apologized and doubled down on their efforts. This is Scholastic, the thousand-pound gorilla in this space.

GLENN: So what are you doing? Because you have been great in libraries. You are on this.

STU: Allowing you in libraries now?

I thought that was your thing?

GLENN: They're so inclusive. They don't let me in the front door.

KIRK: You can get in. Because this is America. And there are many, many libraries, that want us to come. So we have two things. I'm doing sort of -- as a proposed solution to this horrible wolf in grandma's clothing.

One, we have created a PDF, so that parents can download the PDF and see everything that I'm talking about.

Page. Book number. Author biographies. All of this stuff.

You can show it to your fellow parents in the school. Show it to your principle. Show it to your librarians and school board members. Make them aware of what's going on.

And then, don't just stick it to them to figure it out.

We have actually created a nonprofit. It was started by a concerned mother. Called Sky Tree book fairs. You can replace these harmful scholastic book fairs with helpful, wholesome book fairs. With 500 books that have all been vetted and screened to take out all the nasty pornography. And the race theory. And the race stuff.

And they're about wholesome, good values. And we already have over 700 public and private schools. That have already begun the process of replacing scholastic with Sky Tree Book Fairs.

And the first one is coming up next month, in Spotsylvania, Virginia. First one, public school. Superintendent of the district is so excited about this.

They have gotten rid of scholastic. They are putting sky treatment fairs.

GLENN: This is a public school. Yes. How are they getting away with that?

KIRK: Yes. Oh, because they can. They can choose what book fairs they want or don't want.

The reason why so many private schools go with Scholastic is, A, they're trusted. Right? You think it's grandma. You think it's grandma. You don't know that grandma was eaten up by the wolf. And now he's dressed in this trusted clothing called Scholastic. B, the schools actually get money from the books that are sold at the book fairs. Right? There's a percentage that goes back to the school.

So there -- that's part of their budget.

GLENN: Does that happen with the Sky Tree books?

KIRK: That's a good question. I believe it does. I believe they get funds that come to them, to invest in more books like this, and more programs that reinforce these values back to the other.

GLENN: So first of all, how do you get the --

KIRK: The PDF.

You just go to SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

It's a nonprofit. SkyTreeBookFairs.org. Download the PDF. It's really easy. You can text it to people. Email it to people.

And also, there are instructions there, on how to begin the process of bringing Sky Tree Book Fairs to your school.

GLENN: It's fantastic.

KIRK: Well, it's an option. And this is what's exciting about living at this time.

Glenn, you just said you're born for a reason. For a purpose at a specific time, for these problems. I think that's why we're sitting here right now.

Isn't it mind-blowing to think, Stu. Before the stars started to shine in the universe, God knew that you and Glenn and I would be sitting here. Talking about just such an absurd reality, that we live in.

And then having ideas to do something about it. And we can do it together, and make a difference.

GLENN: You know, what's really amazing to me, is he has that for everybody.

And how many people have been convinced by evil.

That they don't have a purpose. There isn't anything they can do.

That they -- they shouldn't pay attention. Or they will get in trouble, if they stand up for things.

All of these lies.

KIRK: Yeah. Yeah. Because our schools. Again, real education I believe has been eaten by the ravenous wolf.

And replaced with something else. So when you take God out of the picture, you don't have what you're saying. You don't have meaning and identity and purpose, other than, this is how bacteria reacts at these temperatures after billions of years.

Cancer cells. Why discriminate?

Cancer cells from other cells.

They're just trying to survive as well. No. No. No.

There is good. There is bad. And there is purpose.

GLENN: As you're going around America and you're doing these things, what are you feeling?

THOMAS: I'm feeling, that we are living in really exciting times.

Revival.

Great awakenings. People snapping out of their stupors have always happened, in this country, and around the world, during times of moral collapse. Spiritual apathy.

Economic decline. And political corruption.

GLENN: Yeah. And warfare.

THOMAS: I think we're due for one. They tend to happen about every 50 years. This is what I'm sensing.

GLENN: This Israel thing has awakened. Not just the blood thirst, on October 7th.

But also the blood thirst that's in our own streets. I just people are going, wait. Wait. Wait.

You're for what now?

I think there's a lot of people that were just kind of coasting along. Living on the fringes. That, I will not take a stand. That are seeing things now.

Like, wait a minute. This is not. What's happening here.

KIRK: Yeah, I agree. You know how you have a beer and you kind of have that buzz, that sort of dulls your senses a little bit.

And everything just kind of seems like it's floating along.

I feel like, because of our prosperity. Because of our comfort. And the ease with which we can go through days. And pick up a latte. And uber to the cafe.

We've been in sort of this dull-minded buzz. Not recognizing the essential truths, that if you are not pursuing truth and beauty and goodness, sacrificially, and leaning into that stuff, with everything, including math, history, science, English, and economics and agriculture. You're screwed long-term.

And your children will pay for it. That's what we're waking up to now. People are sobering up.

GLENN: Okay. I want you to go to SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

SkyTreeBookFairs.org.

Get the PDF he's talking about. Send it, and share it with everybody. And then go to your school, and see if you can get the Sky Tree Book Fairs. To come and do a book fair at your kid's school. It is important that we see these trusted brands that have long gone off the beaten path. And gone their own way.

And are actually poisonous to our society and our kids.

We have to see these brands for what they are.

And time is really running out.

It's not too late.

But it is gravely urgent. That you do this now.

Skytreebookfairs.org.

As always, great.

BRENDAN: Beautiful. Thanks. Great to see you guys. Thanks. Great working with you.

The Dark Truth Behind Queer Theory & Gender ‘Affirmation’ For Children | Liz Wheeler & Glenn Beck

In this explosive conversation, Glenn Beck and Liz Wheeler expose the disturbing roots of gender ideology and queer theory — and how these radical ideas are directly targeting children. From the shocking origins of queer theory, where pedophilia and child pornography were openly defended, to Planned Parenthood’s new role as one of the largest distributors of transgender hormone therapy, the truth is undeniable: this movement is not about freedom or equality, but about dismantling families, corrupting innocence, and profiting off of our children’s pain. What we are witnessing is nothing less than a satanic ideology dressed up as compassion — and it’s spreading like wildfire through schools, culture, and medicine. Parents, you need to hear this. The time to protect your children and fight back is NOW.

Watch the full episode HERE

Glenn's "secret" to conquering the JFK fitness test

President Trump recently signed an executive order to reinstate the Presidential Fitness Test and the media is in a frenzy. But Glenn and Stu look back at the history of these tests, including JFK’s version of the Test that seems IMPOSSIBLE for modern Americans. But Glenn has a secret reason for why he’s confident in his pull-up abilities…

Transcript

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GLENN: What is the -- what is the new physical -- the president's physical fitness, you know, plan?

STU: Well, the thing that RFK Jr and Hegseth were rolling out the other day. I don't know if it was the full test or anything, but they were issuing a challenge to America, to be able to do 100 pushups and 50 pullups within five minutes.

GLENN: That's crazy.

STU: Thank you! That struck you as also crazy.

I don't think there's ever been a time in my life, that I could do that. Let alone now with shoulder problems. And much too much weight.

GLENN: All right. But that was before I needed this walker.

STU: I don't think there was a time in my 20s or my teens, that I could do that. But that -- in five minutes? Fifty pullups?
GLENN: Both of them in 5 minutes.
STU: Yeah, both of them. So it's not like 100 pushups in five minutes. It's both tasks within five minutes.

GLENN: No. No. That's not true.

STU: RFK Jr. is just doing it in jeans.

GLENN: Yeah, well, RFK, he's -- he's a weirdo. I mean, he is. Come on. When it comes to fitness, he's a weirdo.
STU: Yes.
GLENN: I mean, he's done this his whole life. He's like 800 years old. He can still do it.

STU: Yes. Depressive, I will say.

GLENN: I don't know. He's a sex machine.

STU: Oh. That's been a problem for him. Yes, that's been an issue in his life. Yes.

GLENN: Okay. All right. Go ahead.

STU: Separate from the president's physical fitness test.

GLENN: Right.

STU: But, I mean, they don't, they don't really think we're going to do that, right?
Like, I mean, how long would that take you to do?

STU: I think for me, it would take a good month. I think a month, I could probably get two pullups a day. That would get me around, a little over 50. So I could do that. Plus, the pushups. A solid month, I could get that done.

GLENN: You could do more than two a day. You could do more than two a day.

STU: You know, Glenn, I've got to say. I think -- I will throw a number out there. No science behind this, so just as a guestimate.

I would say 40 percent of the population can't do any pullups. Maybe 30 percent. Thirty percent of the population can do exactly zero pullups. Precisely zero, so an infinite amount of time would be a correct answer for a third of the population.

GLENN: I think you're -- I think you're being -- I think you're being a little too optimistic. I think it's closer to 40 or 50. I think it's closer to 40 or 50. Maybe 60 percent.

STU: Right! Pushups are one thing. I mean, I think almost anyone can do a pushup. One --

GLENN: You can do a pushup. Yes. Yes.

STU: Singular pushup. And if you can do one, you can wait long enough, to do a second one.
And at some point, the hundred gets done. That's not the case with pullups. Pullups, you can sit there and think about how much you want to do a pullup for a really long time. But that doesn't make a pullup happen. If you've got a certain amount of weight on you. You're not doing a pullup. It's not occurring.

GLENN: I have no idea, how many pullups I can do.

STU: I have an exact number of pullups, you can do.

GLENN: Do you? You think so?

STU: Yeah. Yeah. I have the exact number. I have to calculate -- AI has been running a report on me. It came up with zero.

GLENN: Right. Right. Really?
I can do. I mean, this is so pathetic. Listen to this. I bet I could do three. You know, you could do three.

STU: In a row? Proper form.

GLENN: What do you mean in a row?

STU: I mean, holding on to the bar, without letting go, you're doing three. There's no way. I don't think so.

GLENN: I think I could do. Well, with proper form, I don't know about that. I don't know about that.

STU: I'm not saying it has to look pretty. You have to get your chin up above the bar. It can't be one of those things, where you're a quarter of the way up there.

GLENN: So I can do one and rest for ten minutes. I could do another one.

I think I can do that.

STU: If you -- I'm not saying, you jump up, and you pull yourself up as you're pulling up. Full hang --

GLENN: See, you may not know this.

But you know what, I've done the DNA test. Have you ever done the DNA test that tells you all about your genes and everything else? Mine came back with something remarkable, and I have to share. You might feel bad, next.
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STU: Coming up next, Glenn attempts live pullups on the air. Stay tuned!
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GLENN: You know no idea what who you're dealing with. No. You don't have any idea who you're dealing with here.

I got my DNA test back like 10 years ago. And we all -- we all took it, because we were looking for things. And so we all took it. My DNA test came back, and everybody in the family, their test made total sense. Like, oh, yeah. That makes...

Then we read mine. We have to find -- I have to find. See if Tania has it still. We should have had it framed. I swear to you, they -- they mixed me up with somebody else.

Somebody else is like, wait a minute. I'm this pathetic? Mine came out and said, you have the muscular structure of a -- of a -- something like a -- an elite athlete. You have the abilities and agility and everything else of an elite athlete. And I'm like, there's not a chance. I don't have any of that!

I don't even know if I have muscles. I have to check once in a while, and go, do I have muscles still?

Doctor is like, I don't know. Can I? Ask just press against my hand on the leg. I don't know.

You know, I don't know how to do that exactly. So --

STU: You sure it said elite athlete and not elephant? I mean, if they misspelled it.

GLENN: It was.

I was having eye problems at the time.

STU: No!

GLENN: I mean, we read it. And I was like Tania, I believe that for Tania.

Maybe they switched me and Tania. Because Tania is really strong. She'll kick your butt.

She works out every day. All of that. Me? Never. Never.

And it kind of makes me wonder, when I get to the other side, and the Lord went, okay.

So what did you do with your life again?

Because I gave this incredible body, and you wasted it the whole time.

And I'm like, you should have been more clear, okay?

You should have been more clear. I -- maybe I could have played basketball. But I tried once. And it was embarrassing. It was embarrassing. It was like sixth grade. And I'll never live -- I don't even want to think about my time on a basketball court. Okay? So don't -- don't start with me. You should have made it a little clearer. When I first started to do stuff. And I think that's fair. I think that's a fair argument. In my defense. In my defense, Your Honor, God, you should have made it a little more clear.

STU: Yeah. I mean, if they really wanted us to do this, then the 11th Commandment is 50 pushups, and -- or, 50 pullups and 100 pushups, right?

Like, put it in a commandment if you really want us to do it. You have to be more specific, we're Americans.

GLENN: Okay. So let me give you the top of the list for the JFK Presidential Fitness Test. Okay? This is what you had to do in high school. In high school.

Thirty-four pullups. Bar dips: Fifty-two. What's -- because I believe I did that. A long time. And I don't recommend it.

STU: It's not a barhop.

GLENN: Oh, it's -- oh, bar dips. Okay. Okay. All right.

Bar dips: 52. Handstand pushups: Fifty. What are handstands?

STU: Oh, my God. Handstands.

GLENN: I can't even stand on my hands. Is that I'm doing a handstand and a push up? Because that's not happening. You're not human.

STU: Yeah. You're balancing yourself on your hands. Your feet are above your hands on the wall. Like a wall. And you're doing --

GLENN: Oh, so you're balancing yourself. That makes it a little easier. Still impossible.

But a little easier.

GLENN: Impossible. You could do precisely zero of those.

Aright. So you had to do 50 handstand pushups.

Or one arm -- 30 -- no, sir.

Twenty-six one-arm burpees in 30 seconds. Is that a one-armed push up?

STU: No. Well, you're bracing your yourself like you're about to begin a pushup in a burpee with only one arm, which that's not that difficult.

But then you're doing. Then you're like, you move your feet towards your hands. And then you jump up in the air basically. And then you do it repeatedly.

GLENN: No, no, no. That's ridiculous. No.

STU: There's a law of gravity. You're not supposed to violate it. If it was a recommendation of gravity, then maybe jumping would be appropriate. But it's not. Follow the law.

GLENN: In 48 seconds, you had to do a 3300-yard shuttle. Now, I've been to the airport. I think I've done a 3300-yard shuttle, but it depends on who is driving. You know.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: Rope climb. Try this. Rope climb. Twenty feet, hands only! Sit start.

STU: That's what I remember from the president's physical fitness test. And I remember looking at that rope, like, no chance I could get up that thing.

GLENN: I remember looking up at that thing. Humiliation. Humiliation is coming my way. I'll never kiss a girl, because that ain't happening. I'll get maybe 10 feet up. Maybe. Maybe.

STU: And you were right for 24 years from that time, approximately.

GLENN: Agility run, 17 seconds. Extension pressups, what? What?

I'm sorry. Why am I so tired reading this?

Extension pressups. What's an extension pressup, 8-inch? You had to do 100 of them.

STU: Let's see. Exercise. An exercise for low-back pain involving lying on your stomach and pressing your upper body up with your arms while keeping your hips relaxed and down on the mat.

GLENN: Oh, I could do that know. 8 inches.

STU: The last part of it, relaxing down on the mat.
GLENN: That's what my doctor says I should be doing. What?

STU: I can do relaxed and down on the mat. That part of it --

GLENN: Yeah. I could do that -- I'm the only guy. I took yoga for a while, like three weeks. My wife is like, yoga. You could do yoga. Let's just do yoga together.

I did. And the yoga instructor said to me. Because we were doing a plank.

STU: Yeah.

GLENN: And she came and all I remember her waking me up. And saying, I think you're the only person I've ever -- ever taught that fell asleep in yoga. And I'm like, it's just so relaxing. Just let me sleep. Let me sleep.

STU: That's interesting, that you did yoga. Is there any footage of that? Any video that we could post? That would be good for --

GLENN: No. There's not. You had to do pegboard. Five trips of pegboard. And I think that's when you have the two pegs.

STU: Yes, it was a board.

GLENN: You have to take it out, and put it up, right?

STU: This is American Ninja Warrior. No way.

GLENN: There's no way. There's no way.

STU: This is amazing.

GLENN: Try this one: You had to do a 45-second handstand. I've never been able to do a handstand. Never!

STU: Never.

GLENN: And I'm an elite athlete. I'm an elite athlete. Try this one: A man carry, 5 miles.

STU: What? What do you mean a --

GLENN: Five-mile man carry.

STU: Is a man carry as obvious as it --

GLENN: I think it is.

STU: You're carrying --

GLENN: If I'm going to carry that man, you have to carry me that man for five miles.

I'm not sure, I can't carry any man for any miles. I mean, if I am -- if I am a firefighter, count on burning in the house. You're going to burn in the house. Because I can't carry you out. I can get in there and go, yeah, I will have to leave you.
I will have to leave you here. I can't help you, sorry.

It's also getting really hot in here. I have to go. You had to do a five-mile jog. An obstacle course.

You had to swim prone for a mile. You had to swim underwater for 50 yards, any strokes, two minutes. Deep waterfront, hang float, with arms. What? What is a deep water hang float with arms. Wait. Wait.

It's a deep waterfront hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes.

What kind of al-Qaeda PE class was this?

STU: Who has access to -- who has access -- like, you're in the middle of the country, you may not have a deep water body nearby. This is -- are you sure this is an actual test?

GLENN: This is the actual test. This is the actual -- what is a deep water front hang float with arms and ankles tied for six minutes? Can you look that up?

STU: A deep water hang float is an aquatic hang float done in the deep end of a pool with the aid of flotation device, such as a noodle or belt.

In this position, the flotation twice supports your upper body, while your legs and torso hang freely beneath you.

That can't be what it is.

GLENN: You can do that.

Deep-end of the pool.

STU: Can you bring a margarita?

GLENN: Man, this test is no big deal.

What! No way. No way!

Here's the last thing on the test.

A vertical tread in an 8-foot circle for two hours!

No way.

STU: Vertical tread in an 8-foot circle?

GLENN: So you're in the water and you're treading water in a circle for two hours. Two!

STU: This is not -- what?

This is not the test.

GLENN: It is. Now, I told you, this is the top of the test.

This is the top of the test.

So this is for the ones who could do all the other tests.

This was the top of the test. The bottom of the test is not that much better. Here's the entry, okay? Let's see. Pullups, 2/6/10. I don't know what that means. Pushups, 16, 24, 32. Bar dips, four, eight, and 12. Situps, 30, 45, and 60. Broad jump, 6-foot, 6, 6, 6. And 6, 9.

To jump 6 feet? I don't even know if --

STU: That one is possible, yes. Glenn, I know it sounds incredible. But, yes. That one is possible.

GLENN: Sounds incredible. You know, I think we should have the average person Olympics. I really do. I really do.

STU: Oh, I would watch that.

GLENN: I would watch that every time.

You see them coming. And you're like, hmm. That one -- three feet. I'm giving him 3 feet. 200-yard shuttle. Agility run. Rope climb, 18 feet, hands only. 880 yards in three minutes. A mile in seven minutes. Pegboard, six holes. A 50-yard swim. Forty -- 40, 50-yard swim in 36 seconds. Man carry, 880 yards. No, thank you! No, thank you!

Look at -- look at what we've gone down. That's the bottom of it. And I don't think most Americans could do that.

I couldn't. Well, I could. Because I'm an elite -- I have the body of an elite athlete.

STU: No. You could not. Now, of course -- let's just say, this is supposed to be for a high school kid. Right?

So this is the prime of your athletic life. Could you do some of these things? Probably.
GLENN: Go into high school.
Go into any high school, and ask them to do this. There's no way. And all of the kids would be.

STU: Well, that's kind of what the reaction would be.

GLENN: Don't get me wrong. I would have been there too. And my parents would have said, suck it up. Just do it.

So nothing has really changed.

STU: That's been the reaction to this proposal too, of bringing this back. Right? The media is covering this. Like, it's going to embarrass children.

You know, I mean, I do remember it being like, I can't do that. I'm not going to the top of that rope. That's not happening.

That's sort of life. Right? Sometimes you can do things. Sometimes you can't do other things.

GLENN: That's why you have to learn how to injure yourself.

You know, how many stairs can I throw myself down, to not do serious damage, but enough to get me out of PE.

STU: Yeah, you have to fake an why are. You have to learn from LeBron James. Act like you got hit in the eye. And fall down like you were just stabbed over and over again, like you were in an athletic competition.

GLENN: There's no way. There's no way.

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